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Croatian Football Croatia had one of the most impressive runs in 1998 which shocked us all. Discuss the national team trying to retain its place in a top 3 finish, its clubs, leagues and players.

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Old 05-26-2000, 10:18 AM   #1
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To all Croats here some memory from a serb fan at the game in Croatia with two others, enjoy, I know you will

A Serb who has seen the game live, described his experince like this:
( I could not contact the author, Darko Dragicevic, and ask him if I could post his report. I did it in a good faith he would not mind visitors of this site reading it. )

PAKAO U ZAGREBU


Pri samom ulasku u Zagreb Larsen se zamislio i onda nam dobaci: - Dacemo tri komada!

Od samog ulaska u Zagreb sretali smo navijace. Svi su nosili hrvatske dresove, salove. Sve je bilo podredjeno slavlju. Niko jednostavno nije ni pomisljao da Hrvatska moze i da izgubi.

Poslije izuzetno ugodnog rucka u prostorijama nasih domacina krenuli smo na stadion. Rijeka ljudi se spremala za odlazak na "tekmu". Uz "ozujsko" i "karlovacko" pivo spremali su se da napune mrezu Jugoslavije. Prognoze na "Radiju 101" su isle od 3:0 do cak 7:0. Kada bi se javio rijetki realan slusalac koji bi podsjetio da Hrvatska nije ni Malti uspjela dati toliko golova, odmah bi postao drzavni izdajnik. Prilaz "Maksimiru" je bio sav u crveno bijelom. Klicali su Hrvati Banu Jelacicu, Anti Pavelicu, a mi smo morali sutjeti. Veliki problem predstavljale su i ulaznice. Imali smo tri. Dvije za sjever i jednu za jug.

Na kraju smo odlucili da Zlaja i Larsen odu na sjever medju BBB, a ja na jug. Tu smo se razdvojili. Po prvi put ostao sam sam i to medju ruljom rezularenih Hrvata. Na prvom ulazu velika guzva. Tapkarosi prodaju karte po nizoj cijeni od pocetne. Detaljni pregledi! Do ulaza u stadion bilo ih je cak sest. Guzva se nepotrebno stvarala. Prvo bi te pregledao redar, zatim obicni policajac pa pripadnici specijalne policije, a nakon ulaska na stadion - ista procedura.

Hrvat iz Bosne, vidno iznerviran, rekao je da ce uskoro postati nastran ako nastave da ga pipaju. Cuvena splitska "Torcida" zapjevala je na ulazu "I ko ne skace - pravoslavac je". Na moju veliku srecu bilo je ljudi kojima, takodje, nije bilo do skakanja pa sam se i sam izvukao... Na ulaznicama su bila oznacena sjedista i moralo se pridrzavati mjesta koja smo dobili. Pogledam broj na karti 11 red sjediste 38, a tamo, oko mjesta, "Torcida". Gotovo svi u hrvatskim dresvima i prezimenom ***sic na ledjima. Jedan od njih gotovo kroz smijeh rece:

- Kaj nas tisak pise, da ce biti 4-5 tisuc' Srba. Nema ovdje ni jednog.

Ima, ima - pomislih u sebi i okrenuh se terenu. A, na njemu umjetnicki program sa hrvatskim nacionalistickim pjesmama. Ne mogu, a da ne spomenu Vukovar. Sluzbeni spiker u nekoliko navrata ponavlja kako ce se slavlje nastaviti i na Trgu Francuske revolucije gdje ce se peci vo i piti pivo.

Prvi na teren "Maksimira", od Jugoslovena, izlazi Dejan Stankovic. Deki se saginje, dodiruje travu i krsti se, a tribinama odjekuje: "Ubij, ubij Srbina"! Izlazi i Ivica Kralj i on se krsti, a Hrvati samo vicu: "Ivice, ustaso"! Sinisa Mihajlovic se odvaja od reprezentacije i odlazi do zastave "Vukovar '91". Pokazuje srednji prst i smijuci se vraca nazad.

Izlazak hrvatskih reprezentativaca donosi euforiju. Gotovo svi burno pozdravljaju "vatrene". Reprezentacije zatim izlaze i sluzbeno na teren. Jugoslovenska himna je ispracena salvama zvizduka, dok je na taktove "Lijepe nase" 90 odsto prisutnih diglo ruke i pozdravilo nacistickim pozdravom. A neko prica o hrvatskoj demokratiji i kako je fasizam mrtav. Na "Maksimiru" fasizam je zivio i to "punim plucima". Uslijedila su skandiranja Dinku Sakicu, Nadi Sakic i, naravno, poglavniku Pavelicu. U sebi psujem, prosto ne vjerujem da neko na kraju dvadesetog vijeka moze od fudbalske utakmice da napravi bitku na zivot i smrt. Utakmica je pocela.

Prvi kontakt i odmah prepirka na terenu izmedju Mirkovica i Asanovica izaziva nevjericu medju navijacima.

- Kaj se Srbi kurce, ovdje se dosli tuci. I taman kada se atmosfera stisavala uslijedio je sporni sut Sukera i novo skandiranje. Okrenuh se i medju ruljom vidim i jedno poznato lice. Lazar iz banjoluckog naselja Budzak. Ni on sam ne vjeruje da sam ja tu. Pokazuje mi da sutim i polako prilazi. ***sic uskoro trese mrezu. Na jugu je haos, na sjevernom dijelu stadiona bacaju baklje. Na srecu, euforija kratko traje jer je uslijedilo izjednacenje. Moje srce puno, a ne smijem da pokazem. Moram se kontrolisati. Nova sansa i 2:1 za "plave". Muk na "Maksimiru". Niko ne vjeruje. Doslo mi je da zapjevam "Jedan je Stankovic Dejan!". Sutim i gledam u Lazara. Ceska se po bradi. Vidim da je prezadovoljan. Iskljucenje Mirkovica donosi nadu Hrvatima. Mirkovic je "jug" pocastio sa tri prsta, a oni su uzvratili uvredama i pokazivanjem "srednjaka".

Pocetak drugog poluvremena i izjednacenje ponovo vracaju nervozu. Tresem se. Samo da ne prime gol. Minute teku kao casovi. O, boze hoce li se ikada zavrsiti?

Lazar mi dobacuje:

- Vidi onu dvojicu, sigurno su Srbi. Nisu mrdnuli od kada su dosli na utakmicu.

Kraj se blizi, a Mijatovic solo prodorom mami uzdahe.

- Kaj ga neko ne slomi, majku mu cetnicku - dere se jedan iza nas.

Hrvati su sve tisi, a kada njihovi reprezentavici krenu vracati loptu salve zvizduka. Blazevic vrsi izmjenu. Iz igre vadi ***sica, a jug ne moze da povjeruje. Citava "Torcida" skandira "Ciro, pederu" i Alen ***sic. Ulazak Simica i Biscana mozda su dvije najvece greske Blazevica kao selektora. Na samo nekoliko metara izbija tuca izmedju izmedju Armade i navijaca Sibenika. Po prici, oni ratuju zbog nerasciscenih racuna iz prvenstva. Policajci brzo intervenisu i trojicu momaka prebijene iznose sa tribina. Kraj je sve blizi. Gledam u semafor, 82. minut. Kako vrijeme sporo ide. Srce kuca, a Hrvati sve nervozniji. Nema pjesme, samo tajac i muk.

Lazar me zatim gura, pokazuje 1:1. Shvatim, u Skoplju su Makedonci postigli gol. Lazar nesvjesno rece:"Ovaj nam rezultat odgovara".

- Kaj nam odgovara, imamo bod manje - pita se mladic do nas. Znam ja sta je Lazar mislio. Sudija pokazuje jos tri minuta nadoknde. Cuje se:"Pomozi, Boze".

Pjevam iz sveg glasa, a stisnuo sam tri prsta u dzepu. Bile su to najduza tri minuta u mom zivotu. Hrvatima vrijeme leti. Zar su vec prosla dva minuta, pitaju se. Aranda svira kraj, a "plavi" trce u zagrljaj. Meni srce puno! Od srece krenuse i suze. Radosnice.

Prilazi mi jedan momak, udara po ramenu i tjesi:

- Ne placi, bu bolje!

- Kud bolje od ovog. Idemo na Evropsko prvenstvo, direktno. Umjesto slavlja, oni su tugovali. Izlazimo, a divljanje huligana pocinje. Na Ininu pumpu u dogovoreno vrijeme dolaze Zlaja i Larsen. Doslo nam je da se smijemo. Trebalo je izdrzati ovaj pakao. Svi tuzni, a mi bi najradije zapjevali. Niko ne vjeruje da su ispali, da ne idu na Evropsko prvenstvo. Nacinalna euforija se pretvorila u nacionalnu zalost. Bilo je po onoj narodnoj: Pravi se razanj, a zec u sumi. Vracamo se kod domacina. Veselju nema kraja. Nazvali smo svoje u Banjoj Luci i culi za slavlje.

Sutradan je uslijedio povratak. Ponovo bez velikih problema. Jedva smo cekali da predjemo granicu, na pola mosta Larsen se kroz prozor proderao:"Srbija"!

Dobro je, vracamo se zivi, a bili smo medju 40.000 napaljenih i na sve spremnih Hrvata. Pjesma se ori autom. Putujemo Republikom Srpskom. Nikada mi se nasa Republika nije cinila ljepsa, niti ljudi normalniji nego tada. Uskoro dolazi i tabla Banja Luka. Sada slijedi put u Holandiju i Belgiju. Mi razmisljamo o tome, a Hrvatima ostaje da EURO 2000. gledaju - na televiziji.




[This message has been edited by Grobar (edited 26 May 2000).]
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Old 05-26-2000, 10:25 AM   #2
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Fasicm dead in Croatia??? NO my friend you greeted your players in fascist wasy 90% of you did, so tell me how can this be possible when Croatia is a democratic country???
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Old 05-26-2000, 01:44 PM   #3
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That's a nice story - from your point of view. I could tell you the story of Dinamo vs Partizan 5:0 but I don't have that much time. After the war nationalism will always be present when we play against you, now and in 50 years. I'll say it again - take a look at yourself! MIhajlovic's middle finger at Vukovar - if that's nice you're sick, very sick and I guess I have nothing to say any more.
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No it's nice what you did greeting your players with "Hi Hitler" wont you ever grow out of it...
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Old 05-26-2000, 07:57 PM   #5
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That's a notorious lie. We have nothing to do with Hitler, your president though has a lot in common with him, and Saddam. Will you ever grow out of it. No, guess not - guy is still your president, isn't he?
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Do you know what hurt you most - when the whole stadium sang the anthem, unlike you in Belgrade.
Oj Hrvatska mati nemoj tugovati
Oj Hrvatska mati nemoj tugovati
zovi samo zovi svi ce sokolovi za te zivot dati - whole stadium singin' do you forget. We do love our country unlike you. You just hate everyone.
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Mega lol BBB you really are a 10 year old kid. Ustase not with Hitler?? Shows how much of a sad case you are not even knowing the history of your people, so tell me what are all of those concertration camps doing in Croatia ??? The 1 million serbs slaughtered by Croats? We hate evryone that made me laugh really, go ahead make some more stupid comments lke that I am starting to like you.
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YOu're talking about history, I'm talking about today. It's too obvious that you don't want to understand. You aren't a 10 year old, you're either stupid or ignorant. You can now go on and on with your crap about ustase, chetniks, hitler-that was 50years ago. Tak a look at yourself now, I mean today and please talk about football not politics. I'm sick of discussing it with people that simply don't know what's going on and don't want to take a look at themselves but always have something to say about everyone else.
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Ma pusti ga BBB, znam ja da papenduci kao on vole da misle o historiji hahahah.

GROBARE u grob
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Listen up you two little twirps.
You are both very very sad and uneducated.
I'll start with BBB since this is your forum. You my kid ar very uninformed, one of the biggest alies in Europe to Hitler were Croats. I know you don't like that fact but accept it coz it's true.
Now for you grobar, i really enjoyed your bullshit story, if for one minute you think i or anyone else believe that you were there during the game you are nuts. You are just another lost soul. If you are like you say from Banja Luka why do you go to watch soccer games that Yugoslavia plays. Or don't you know that you live in a different country now, you my friend are a Bosnian citizen and always will be, your so called hero Milosevic has rooted every Serb up the arse. He filled your head with a greater Serbia and look what he got, he lost Slovenia, Croatia, Bosnia, Kosovo and is gonna lose Crna Gora. My friend, that man together with all Serbs in Serbia couldn't give two ***ks about you or any of you loser friends? Proves ho little you know, but as during the 3 wars Serbs from all over former Yugoslavia looked for refuge in Serbia the Serbs there greeted them with fists, abuse and laughter, but thats good coz they got what they deserved with that bombing. I am for a unified Bosnia, i am not a nationalist but as long as there is scum as you around i will put you down. You are proud of Mihajlovic givin the middle finger to Vukovar?? well if you are that speaks for itself, and please don't talk about concentration camps coz the whoile world has seen what happened in Bosnia, which i assume you will once again denie and say that itis american propaganda. But hey buddy that's all right, i don't mind you are just a lost soul from Banja Luka, Bosnia and Hercegovina who has nowhere to go and nothing to belong to.
Zato ti ja brate kazem, rep podase i pjevaj himnu Bosne, posto i ja i ti imamo istu sudbinu a to je da nju sluzimo. Ako Bogda saces ti i vojsku sluziti ali ti ces je ako Bogda pod Armijom BiH posto tamo druge vise nece biti. Probudi se beharu moj uspavani i ne provaljuj mi se ti sa pricom o demokratiji i kkao ti je lijep ili lepa Republike Srpska, koja izmisljeno postoji haman ha citave 2 godine.
Budi pozdravljen od mene
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Pozdrav BOSANSKOME JARANU, a ti grobar, BANJALUCANIN, BOSANAC, pjevat ces ti nama BOSNO MOJA, ako bogda u ARMIJU BIH jarane, BH pasos lijepo u dzep, pa jos kad ti mama nauci maslanicu da razvije (ovo ce glavo biti)
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SARAJEVO JE SRBIJA, KAO STO JE MOSKVA RUSIJA!
PIZDA VAM MATERINA TO STE PJEVALI DOK SMO MI TAMO BILI!!

SMRT HRVATSKOJ!
SMRT BOSNI!
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Aussie Bosanac, Grobar was not at the game, he was telling a story from a serb person who was at the game, and who put that text file on the net!
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MEGA LOL I didn't think anyone was quite stupid enough to belevie I was at the game, I guess there are REAL stupid people in this world. The text file I found at http://zoranmirkovic.tripod.com/Zoran.htm
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I took this text from one of the private sites and posted it on Bata's site since Maksimir obviously is a very important point in his career. I had no intention in causing fights between soccer fans from different countries.
Maja, webmaster of http://zoranmirkovic.tripod.com/Zoran.htm
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