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Old 02-28-2007, 10:55 PM   #1
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Vedad Ibišević

Životna priča Vedada Ibiševića

Rođen je 1984. godine i prvi klub u kojem je počeo trenirati, bio je Proleter iz Slavinovića kod Tuzle. Kržljasti dječačić impresivne tehnike, lakoće baratanja loptom, brzo je spoznao kako je Proleter samo prolazna stanica.
Priča o Vedadu Ibiševiću je tipična izbjeglička drama dječaka koji je u naletu rata s porodicom iz rodne Vlasenice, prebjegao na slobodnu teritoriju, u susjednu Tuzlu.

Odlazi u Zmaj od Bosne, koji se tada takmičio u Premijer ligi BiH. Kod trenera Nevzeta Lije Hasanbašića inače bivšeg krila Slobode, svakodnevno je napredovao, pa je vremenom dobio poziv u kadetsku reprezentaciju BiH. U generaciji sa Pehlićem, E. Hadžićem, Sadikovićem, Kaljićem, Muslijem, Brđanovićem, Kovačevićem..., Vedad je bio jedan od najtalentiranijih igrača.

Poznata je priča o desetinama talenata, koji su u nemogućnosti napredovanja u svojoj zemlji, odlučili krenuti trbuhom za kruhom. Porodicu Ibišević, put je odveo u Švicarsku. Otac je želio da mu sin odmah nastavi s nogometom, pa je Vedad počeo trenirati u anonimnom klubu FC Bâle.

U Švicarskoj se vrlo kratko zadržao, a naredno odredište bila je obećana zemlja – Amerika. Ibišević je postao član Saint-Louis University. Malo je trebalo da Amerikanci shvate kakvog su asa dobili. Vedo je skoro na svakoj utakmici postizao golove ili bio asistent. Isticao se dvobojima jedan na jedan, razornim udarcem, eksplozivnošću, a nerijetko je zbog prgavosti znao izazvati i pokoji sitni incident na terenu, ali sve u granicama. O njegovim igrama čulo se u rodnoj Bosni i Hercegovini, pa je novinar i publicista Mirsad Sinanović prvi objavio tekst o čudu iz Amerike.

Tadašnji selektor under 21 reprezentacije BiH Ibrahim Zukanović zajedno sa sekretarom stručnog štaba Medžidom Gvozdenom Čičkom, odlazi u posjetu Ibiševiću. Na licu mjesta, izbornik uviđa o kakvom se igraču radi i poziva ga za prijateljski susret sa Makedonijom u Prilepu koji je odigran 17. februara 2004. godine. Tandem Zukanović-Gvozden, u Americi se zadržao duži period, snimajući talente, dogovarajući gaže, te napose i ugovorne obaveze s najboljim igračima.

Ibišević se prije polaska u Makedoniju predstavlja javnosti. Gostuje u Centralnom dnevniku TV Hayat kod Senada Hadžifejzovića i najavljuje da će ubrzo iz mlade u najjači sastav, onaj Sliškovićev.



Na stadionu Pobede u Prilepu, Ibišević pokazuje zašto je u reprezentaciji, trkom, tehnikom, razornim udarcima stiče simpatije, a već nakon naredne reprezentativne akcije protiv Slovenije u Orašju, na otvorenju Goal centra, o Vedadu će čuti cijela Evropa.

Na utakmicu su stigli legenda francuskog, evropskog i svjetskog nogometa Michael Platini, predsjednik HNS-a Vlatko Marković, predsjednik Partizana Ivan Ćurković, te mnogobrojni menadžeri i skauti.

Legendarni bivši nogometaš Robert Prosinečki tada sportski direktor NK Zagreb se zaljubljuje u talentovanog napadača, a nakon slaloma kroz odbranu 'zmajčeka' i pogotka, tadašnji skaut Hajduka Dean Računica – inače bivši nogometaš koji je zbog srčanih smetnji naprasno prekinuo nogometnu karijeru - javlja svom šefu Igoru Štimcu ovoga moramo dovesti na Poljud.

Legendarni Mostarac, bivši golman Veleža, aktuelni predsjednik Partizana Ivan Ćurković zove mobitelom direktora Nenada Bjekovića:

Neno, našao sam čudesnog igrača, moramo ga dovesti kod nas.

Na utakmici je, između ostalih, bio i trener tada drugoligaša Istresa Mehmed Baždarević koji je bio na proputovanju za Sochaux. Odmah je rekao:

Želim ga u svom Istresu. Neka mali kaže koliko traži, ko mu je menadžer i neka dođe da potpiše ugovor.

Bivši igrač Zrinjskog Ives Čakarun u saradnji sa kontroverznim zagrebačkim menadžerom Dankom Đikićem, sređuje Ibiševiću odlazak u redove bundesligaša Kaizerslauterna. No, Vedad se ne javlja, ne samo njima, već ni Prosinečkom, Baždareviću, Računici... Odjednom nestaje. Kasnije će se ispostaviti da je imao jedino otvorenu liniju sa selektorom Ibrahimom Zukanovićem.

Mehmed Meša Baždarević se prisjeća:

Razgovarao sam nekoliko puta sa Zukanovićem. Dao mi je garanciju da će mali doći u Istres. Preko kluba sam mu sredio papire, garanciju da može ući u Francusku. Mislio sam da će sve biti u redu, ali je Zukanović bio totalno nepošten i nekorektan jer se nije držao obećanja.

Bekim Dino Pašalić je još žešći u optužbama ciljanim na selektora mladog tima. On kaže:

Odavno me niko nije tako izvarao kao Zukanović. Zvao me je nekoliko puta dnevno, govorio kako bi trebao odvesti malog negdje. Razgovarao sam sa Mehmedom Baždarevićem koji mi je odmah ponudio Istres. Čuo sam se sa svojim prijateljem Alijem Jildrimom, bratom Aziza Jildrima, predsjednika Fenerbahce. Bili su ga spremni odmah uzeti, ali Zukanović je sve zeznuo. Do malog ionako nikad nisam uspio doći ljutito priča Pašalić.

Još je jedan bh. menadžer bio jako ljut zbog Ibiševića i njegovog, očito jedinog menadžera – Zukanovića. Naime, Menaf Kodro, brat bivšeg bh. reprezentativca i napadača Real Sosiedada i Barcelone, Mehe Kodre, zgotovio je odlazak Ibiševića u Portugal.

Porto je bio sve sredio, dogovorili smo da dečko dođe i potpiše ugovor na pet godina. Ako se pokaže, može odmah igrati, a ako ne, neka ide na posudbu. Međutim, Ibišević se tada možda uplašio nečega, tako da je posao propao.

Predsjednik Hajduka Branko Grgić, iznenada odlazi u Ameriku, na noge Ibiševiću, kako bi ga nagovorio da potpiše ugovor za splitske bijele, ali se vraća u Hrvatsku razočaran, jer nije uspio u svojim namjerama.

Kako su bile i prolazile šanse za transferom, tako je i Ibišević bio jako nestrplji, neznajući da li će ostati u Americi ili će potpisati ugovor za neki evropski klub.

Zukanović vuče posljednji adut, odlazi kod tadašnjeg trenera Paris Saint Germaina Vahida Halilhodžića, u Promajnu i dogovara prelazak talentovanog napadača na stadion Park prinčeva.

Zukanoviću je pomogao Enver Eno Halilhodžić mlađi brat legendarnog trenera i Ibišević potpisuje petogodišnji ugovor sa slavnim francuskim klubom.

U uvodnim utakmicama sa Celtom iz Viga i Juventosom, Ibišević demonstrira turbo nogomet, odigravanja iz prve, otvaranja, realizuje na terenu sve trenerove zamisli i Francuska upoznaje mladu bosansku zvijezdu.

Iz španske Celte odmah reaguju i ponovo preko Dine Pašalića pokušavaju stupiti u kontakt sa Ibiševićem.

Naime, tada je već bilo kasno, jer je mali potpisao ugovor sa Paris Saint Germainom govori Pašalić.

Nakon što je sve dobro završilo, Ibišević potpisao ugovor, a Zukanović dogovorio transfer, nastao je problem oko isplate provizije. Čak je selektor U-21 tima boravio nekoliko dana u Parizu, gdje je razgovarao i sa Vahidom Halilhodžićem i sa Vedadom Ibiševićem.

Ibrahim Zukanović kaže:

Nisam uzeo niti jedan jedini euro, jer je nažalost tako ispalo. Halilhodžić je smijenjen sa mjesta trenera PSG-a, a Ibišević se prema meni počeo ponašati kao prema kakvom balavcu. Nije to razlog što sam ga izostavio s popisa reprezentativaca, već momak nije igrao za svoj tim. Osim toga, nisam zadovoljan njegovim ponašanjem na posljednjim okupljanjima. Protiv Španije, te Srbije i Crne Gore ponašao se kao kakva zvijezda, na sastanke dolazio s vokmenom i slušalicama u ušima. On vjerovatno jeste bolji igrač od mnogih, ali to ne znači da može narušavati atmosferu i moj autoritet selektora pred svim ostalim momcima. Kasnije, kada je otišao u Njemačku, promjenio se nabolje. Shvatio je neke stvari, pa sam ga vratio u mladu reprezentaciju. Ono što je bilo, bilo je, Vedad je igrao dobro i malo nam je nedostajalo da odemo na Evropsko prvenstvo.

Ibišević nakon sezone u PSG, gdje se nije naigrao, ali je zabilježio nekoliko nastupa u La Championatu, te nekoliko odgledanih utakmica Lige prvaka s klupe za rezervne igrače. Halilhodžić odlučuje da je najbolje da Vedad ode tamo gdje će igrati, a to je francuski drugoligaš Dijon.

Mladi napadač počinje igrati, zabijati golove, ali poziv za mladu reprezentaciju više nikad nije dobio. Razočaran zbog takvog odnosa selektora Zukanovića prema njemu, Ibišević je tada govorio:

Ne znam kako bi se postavio. U reprezentaciji igraju neki igrači koji nemaju veze s loptom, dolaze preko ko zna kakvih relacija. Očekivao sam da ću igrati ove posljednje utakmice, da ću vremenom postati i A reprezentativac, ali to se nije desilo. Šokiran sam, ali šta mogu. Nastojim što bolje igrati za svoj klub, a valjda će se neko sjetiti da postojim i opet me pozvati pod nacionalnu zastavu.

Ipak, jedan čovjek nije ga zaboravio. Menaf Kodro ga je pratio dok je Ibišević igrao za francuskog drugoligaša Dijon. Nekoliko puta su se čuli telefonom i dogovorili saradnju.

Menaf Kodro kaže:

Imao sam neke svoje ljude u Njemačkoj i ponudio sam ga Alemaniji iz Aachena. Trener i direktor kluba su ga gledali nekoliko puta u Dijonu i postignut je dogovor. Međutim, Alemanija je morala platiti PSG-u 200.000 eura na ime obeštećenja. Vedad je potpisao ugovor i eto, sada je sretan u Aachenu. Igra standardno, postiže golove.

Na kraju Ibišević kaže:

Možda sam i ja u nekim stvarima ispao naivan, ali kako čovjek stari, tako je i pametniji. Sada imam 23 godine i zaista veliku mogućnost da uspijem. U Alemaniji mi je lijepo, igram standardno, što je velika stvar za mene. Ukoliko ne ispadnemo u 2. ligu, volio bih ostati još jednu sezonu u ovom klubu. Mislim da bi nakon još jedne sezone, bio spreman za veći klub u Njemačkoj, ali i u nekoj drugoj ligi petice. Što se tiče reprezentacije, smatram da imam mjesta u A selekciji i očekuje poziv selektora Fuada Muzurovića za meč sa Norveškom. Bila bi prava stvar kada bi i još neki moji drugovi iz mlade selekcije, prije svih Džeko, Salihović, Ibričić, Maksumić, Baotić i Pandža dobili poziv u najbolju reprezentaciju kazao je Ibišević.
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he's going to be a world wide star...no question about it
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^ if he keeps his attitude...which i think he will

He was pretty good in college "soccer" in USA:

-the NCAA Freshman of the Year
-as well as a first team All-American
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he's going to be a world wide star...no question about it
Has he played for the Senior National Team side yet??
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Has he played for the Senior National Team side yet??

No, but he will now.

Ex coach Blaz Sliskovic he had his squad of 15+ players and he never gave chance to Ibisevic. But he was playing for BiH U21 team !
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There are a lot of problems with the administration of BiH football. Too much corruption and too many "buddies". Young, good players, who don't adhere to corrupt ways of the administration do not get a chance.

Even their best player, Hasan Salihamidzic ( who is moving to Juventus this year from Bayern Munich ), is no longer playing for the national team even though he is only 30, because they have pushed him around too much.
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Barbarez, Spahic, Papac, Hasagic, Grlic, Tolja, Grlic and bajramovic have all been pushed around. Thats why we don't have them on the team because of those damned propagandists in our association. They work just for stealing money and nothing else. But they ain't taking no $ from me when Bosnia plays Turkey, and Croatia. The other people can be idiots and keep getting ripped off but not me.


Anyways back to Ibisevic. Lets not make this a thread about our association..
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True...

Ibisevic is quite a prospect. So are Dzeko, Salihovic and Ibricic. I saw them when they played their last qualifier and they were very unlucky.

I think one thing that Bosnian players have to address is their mentality. They have one good game or score one good goal, and straight away they start behaving as if they are stars. I think it's a general Balkan attitude, and Bosnia probably needs a really headstrong, respectable coach ( that has proved himself everywhere ) who can shake them up a bit.
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^^ Fuad Muzurovic is an okay coach. But all that doesn't matter. That is the least of problems we have. WE NEED A ASSOCIATION! One which loves the nation and has 100% interest in bringing our soccer to a new level. Not one which fishes for money.

After that comes the Natinal team. Plus I still have no idea why on earth isn't Salihovic being given a chance to play!!!!!!!!
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They don't care about youth.

Look at the local clubs, there are no academies, no youth coaching ( just crappy teams of daddy's boys )... its a whole structural issue which cannot be resolved easily.
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^^ Exactly. Some people always say that the Savez should be kept alone for the sake of the National team and football in BiH. But the Savez is already putting our soccer at a dangerous position. They have rejected many players who we could have used against Denmark such as Rahimic. And just as you stated, the proper given care to the youth of our nation hasn't been provided which is why I still belive that around 85% of the premier league cannot handle a National team. But I believe that this association will eventually fall. However it takes good hearts to do that.
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You are very right.

I watched the meeting between the press, some ex players and the "Savez" on tv a few months back after the famous "letter of 13".

The Savez people just kept saying we were elected and we are not leaving. No matter what the ex-pros or the fans or the press said, they just stuck to thier statement of not leaving.
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^^ They have no interest in BiH. Many have elected them selfs. The other day I read Dominkovic state something like 'Gdje ima u svijet da igraci odluce ko ce da vodi savez?' referring to the letter of 13. And man did I just laugh my ass off. This comes from a guy who is working for a Savez that told Rahimic to pay if he wants to play for his own nation. Where in the hell do you find that in the world!!!???
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They are idiots.... I don't want to get into politics, because if I did we'd just start another big fight with people of opposite opinions, but did you see when Jelic told the BHFanaticos supporter " Who are your members? You certainly don't have members from Banja Luka?!?"

Sadly, a majority of people in Banja Luka right now, don't support Bosnia.
Same goes with people who Dominkovic represents... when Bosnia played Croatia in Siroki Brijeg a few years back, all the Siroki Brijeg people booed the Bosnian anthem, and supported the neighbouring Croatia.

Our savez is just a representation of the internal politics of Bosnia, where the majority of Bosniaks are for a united Bosnia that contains Bosniaks, Croats and Serbs, while the majority of Croats and Serbs ( respect to exceptions ) would rather support the neighbouring Croatia and Serbia then wear the colors of Bosnia.
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Some will disagree with you but I agree. Lets face it most people who still want BiH divided are in Republika Srbska and some in Herzegovina. I blame Europe for this and their Dayton crap. These agreements which Europe designed has brought NOTHING for our nation. It has separated us more then ever. We have 3 nations in BiH, and each nation within it has equal power. Now, with this said whatever one side wants to do the others must give the Green light. This has led to Serbs, Bosniaks, and Croats all in the association screwing each other and not giving a damn about soccer. Not to mention the dozens and dozens of other places this agreement affects. These people are all fighting for their side, not for one BiH.

I say this is all a joke. In Siroki Brijeg people don't care about BiH...well most of them. In Banja Luka...do I even have to say it? People cheer for different nations then the one they live in everyday. What shame is that?? Our President has deep connections to Republika Srbska...the same region which has threatened the nation to split if declared to cease. That in my mind is considered as a threat to the Nation. We cannot have those people. Do you think the USA would let a man lead their association that is supporting the split of the nation? Or any European World Power? No. But why is Jelic allowed to represent our nations association??? Europe's shameful agreements is the answer. We need a Serb, Croat and Bosniak in ever thing we try since if we don't one side always starts bitching. I hope someday we can tell all those who want BiH divided and give parts of it to Serbia and Croatia to move there an never step ground on our nation again. I give full respect and loyalty to all Serbs and Croats in BiH who love this nation and want it together with one government made up of people not determined if they are Croats, Serbs or Muslims but if they truly love Bosnia and Herzegovina. And until we unite we will keep on failing in everything.

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