Greek Club Teams in European History

plato-ny · 12-03-2005, 11:48 PM

Here is Greece's ranking in the collective club teams history in UEFA:

1. Spain 65,320
2. Italy 60,445
3. England 58,629
4. France 46,781
5. Germany 44,489
6. Portugal 42,374
7. Holland 38,998

8. GREECE 31,414

9. Russia 29,583
10. Belgium 29,500
11. Scotland 29,375
12. Ukraine 26,350
13. Czech Republic 25,825
14. Turkey 25,666
15. Romania 24,457

Here are the latest standings for Greece in the UEFA Cup country coefficients.

2005 rankings - apply to European season 2006-07

Greece is in 8th place and it looks like we will not lose it as Holland in 7th place have a good lead. We are also ahed of Belgium who are in 9th place. If things stay like this in 2006/07 season we will have the same representation of Greek teams as toda. Two teams in CL (one dict in groups stage) and the league runner up in CL qualifying round 3. Four teams in UEFA Cup. One through Greek Cup and the 3rd, 4th and 5th league finishers in the current Greek league.

2006 rankings - apply to European season 2007-08

Greece is still in 8th place, and reaching 7th place (currently held by Holland) is almost impossible as they are too far ahead of us. Also Belgium in 9th place is getting closer, and if their teams can have good results in Europe, they have a chance of taking over 8th place. If we do manage to hold on to the 8th place, we will have the same representation as we currently have. See above for the number of teams we will be able to field.

2007 rankings - apply to European season 2008-09

Greece is in 13th place, and we are 3 points behind Russia who hold the 8th place. If things stay as they are in the 2008-09 season we will field two teams in CL, but they will have to go through the qualifying rounds. League winner in QR3, and league runner up in QR2. as for UEFA Cup we will have 2 teams. One through the Greek Cup, and the 3rd place league finishers. They will have to start the competition in QR2

2008 rankings - apply to European season 2009-10

We are in 17th place, with 8 points behind Germany who are in 8th place. If things stay as they are, we will have one team in CL and they will have to start in the QR2. In UEFA Cup we will have 3 teams. One through Greek Cup and 3rd and 4th place league finishers. They will have to start the competition in QR2.

Here are all the results by the Greek teams in the Champions Cup/League.

Until the 1992-1993 season the competition used to be known as the Champions Cup. Since 1992-1993 season, the competition was renamed Champions League.

CHAMPIONS CUP

1955-1956

GREECE DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1956-1957

GREECE DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1957-1958

GREECE DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1958-1959

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Besiktas Istanbul (Turkey) Olympiakos forfeited

1959-1960

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - AC Milan (Italy) 2:2, 1:3

1960-1961

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Spartak Hradec Kralove (Czechoslovakia)0:0, 1:1

1961-1962

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 1:1, 1:2

1962-1963

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Polonia Bytom (Poland) 1:2, 1:4

1963-1964

R1: AEK ATHENS - AS Monaco (France) 1:1, 2:7

1964-1965

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Glentoran Belfast (Northern Irland) 3:2, 2:2
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - 1. FC Koln (West Germany) 1:1, 1:2

1965-1966

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Sliema Wanderers (Malta) 4:1, 0:1
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Ferencvaros Budapest (Hungary) 1:3, 0:0

1966-1967

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - CSKA Sofia (Bulgaria) 1:0, 1:3

1967-1968

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 0:0, 0:2

1968-1969

R1: AEK ATHENS - Jeunesse Esch (Luxembourg) 3:0, 2:3
R2: AEK ATHENS - Academisk BK Copenhagen (Denmark) 2:0, 0:0
QF: AEK ATHENS - Spartak Trnava (Czechoslovakia) 1:1, 1:2

1969-1970

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - ASK Vorwarts Berlin (East Germany) 1:1, 0:2

1970-1971

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Jeunesse Esch (Luxembourg) 5:0, 2:1
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Slovan Bratislava (Czechoslovakia) 3:0, 1:2
QF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Eeverton (England) 0:0, 1:1
SF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Crvena Zvezda Beograd (Yugoslavia) 3:0, 1:4
F: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Ajax Amsterdam (Holland) 0:2

1971-1972

R1: AEK ATHENS - Inter Millan (Italy) 3:2, 1:4

1972-1973

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - CSKA Sofia (Bulgaria) 1:2, 0:2

1973-1974

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Benfica Lisbon (Portugal) 0:1, 0:1

1974-1975

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Celtic Glasgow (Scotland) 2:0, 1:1
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - RSC Anderlecht Brussels (Belgium) 3:0, 1:5

1975-1976

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Dinamo Kiev (USSR) 2:2, 0:1

1976-1977

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Omonia Nicosia (Cyprus) 2:0, 1:1
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Dinamo Kiev (USSR) 0:2, 0:4

1977-1978

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Floriana la Valletta (Malta) 4:0, 1:1
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Brugge (Belgium) 1:0, 0:2

1978-1979

R1: AEK ATHENS - FC Porto (Poland) 6:1, 1:4
R2: AEK ATHENS - Nottingham Forrest (England) 1:2, 1:5

1979-1980

R1: AEK ATHENS - Arges Pitesti (Romania) 2:0, 0:3

1980-1981

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Bayern Munich (West Germany) 2:4, 0:3

1981-1982

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Universitate Craiova (Romania) 2:0, 0:3

1982-1983

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Osters Vaxjo (Sweden) 2:0, 0:1
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - SV Hamburg (West Germany) 0:1, 0:4

1983-1984

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Ajax Amsterdam (Holland) 2:0, 0:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Benfica Lisbon (Portugal) 1:0, 0:4

1984-1985

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Feyenoord Rotterdam (Holland) 2:1, 0:0
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Linfield (Northern Ireland) 2:1, 3:3
QF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - IFK Gotteborg (Sweden) 2:2, 1:0
SF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Liverpool (England) 0:1, 0:4

1985-1986

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Hellas Verona (Italy) 1:2, 1:3

1986-1987

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Crvena Zvezda Beograd (Yugoslavia) 2:1, 0:3

1987-1988

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Gornik Zabrze (Poland) 1:1, 1:2

1988-1989

R1: AE LARISSA - Neuchatel Xamax (Switzerland) 2:1, 1:2 (0:3 pen.)

1989-1990

R1: AEK ATHENS - Dynamo Dresden (East Germany) 5:3, 0:1
R2: AEK ATHENS - Olympique Marseille (France) 1:1, 0:2

1990-1991

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Lech Poznan (Poland) 1:2, 0:3

1991-1992

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Fram Reykjavik (Iceland) 0:0, 2:2
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - IFK Gotteborg (Sweden) 2:0, 2:2
sG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - RSC Anderlecht Brussles (Belgium) 0:0, 0:0
sG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Sampdoria Genoa (Italy) 0:0, 1:1
sG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Crvena Zvezda Beograd (Yugoslavia) 0:2, 0:1
---- 4. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS

CHAMPIONS LEAGUE

1992-1993

R1: AEK ATHENS - APOEL Nicosia (Cyprus) 1:1, 2:2
R2: AEK ATHENS - PSV Eindhoven (Holland) 1:0, 0:3

1993-1994

R1: AEK ATHENS - AS Monaco (France) 1:1, 0:1

1994-1995

PR: AEK ATHENS - Glasgow Rangers (Scotland) 2:0, 1:0
QG: AEK ATHENS - Casino Salzburg (Austria) 1:3, 0:0
QG: AEK ATHENS - Ajax Amsterdam (Holland) 1:2, 0:2
QG: AEK ATHENS - AC Milan (Italy) 0:0, 1:2
---- 4. AEK ATHENS

1995-1996

PR: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Hajduk Split (Croatia) 0:0, 1:1
QG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Porto (Portugal) 0:0, 1:0
QG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Nantes (France) 3:1, 0:0
QG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - ABB Aalborg (Denmark) 2:0, 1:2
---- 1. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS
QF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Legia Warsaw (Poland) 3:0, 0:0
SF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Ajax Amsterdam (Holland) 0:3, 1:0

1996-1997

PR: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Rosenborg Trodheim (Norway) 1:0, 0:3

1997-1998

PR: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - MPKC Mozyr (Belarus) 5:0, 2:2
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Porto (Portugal) 1:0, 1:2
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Rosenborg Trodheim (Norway) 2:2, 1:5
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Real Madrid (Spain) 0:0, 1:5
----- 3. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

1998-1999

PR2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Steaua Bukurest (Romania) 6:3, 2:2
QG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Dinamo Kiev (Ukraine) 2:1, 1:2
QG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Arsenal London (England) 1:3, 1:2
QG: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - RC Lens (France) 1:0, 0:1
---- 4. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS
PR2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Anorthosis Famagusta (Cyprus) 2:1, 4:2
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Porto (Portugal) 2:1, 2:2
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Croatia Zagreb (Croatia) 2:0, 1:1
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Ajax Amsterdam (Holland) 1:0, 0:2
----- 1. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS
QF: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 1:1, 1:2

1999-2000

PR2: AEK ATHENS - AIK Stockholm (Sweden) 0:0, 0:1

QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Real Madrid (Spain) 3:3, 0:3
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Porto (Portugal) 1:0, 0:2
QG: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FK Molde (Norway) 3:1, 2:3
----- 3. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

2000-2001

PR3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - KP Polonia Warsaw (Poland) 2:1, 2:2
GS1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Deportivo la Coruna (Spain) 1:1, 0:1
GS1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 3:1, 1:2
GS1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - SV Hamburg (Germany) 0:0, 1:0
----- 2. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS
GS2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Manchester United (England) 1:1, 1:3
GS2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Valencia CF (Spain) 0:0, 1:2
GS2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - SK Sturm Graz (Austria) 1:2, 0:2
------ 4. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS

GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Valencia CF (Spain) 1:0, 1:2
GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Olympique Lyon (France) 2:1, 0:1
GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - SC Heerenveen (Holland) 2:0, 0:1
------ 3. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

2001-2002

PR3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Slavia Prague SK (Czech Republic) 1:0, 2:1
GS1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Schalke 04 (Germany) 0:2, 0:2
GS1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - RSC Mallorca (Spain) 2:0, 0:1
GS1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Arsenal London (England) 1:0, 1:2
------ 1. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS
GS2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Porto (Portugal) 0:0, 1:2
GS2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Real Madrid (Spain) 2:2, 0:3
GS2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Sparta Prague (Czech Republic) 2:1, 2:0
------ 2. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS
QF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Barcelona (Spain) 1:0, 1:3

GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Manchester United (England) 0:2, 0:3
GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Deportivo la Coruna (Spain) 1:1, 2:2
GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Lille OSC (France) 2:1, 1:3
------ 4. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

2002-2003

PR3: AEK ATHENS - APOEL Nicosia (Cyprus) 1:0, 3:2
GS1: AEK ATHENS - GKS Genk (Belgium) 1:1, 0:0
GS1: AEK ATHENS - AS Roma (Italy) 0:0, 1:1
GS1: AEK ATHENS - Real Madrid (Spain) 3:3, 2:2
------ 3. AEK ATHENS

GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Germany) 6:2, 0:2
GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Maccabi Haifa (Israel) 3:3, 0:3
GS1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Manchester United (England) 2:3, 0:4
------ 4. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

2003-2004

PR: AEK ATHENS - Grasshopers Club Zurich (Switzerland) 3:1, 0:1
GS: AEK ATHENS - Deportivo la Coruna (Spain) 1:1, 0:3
GS: AEK ATHENS - AS Monaco (France) 0:0, 0:4
GS: AEK ATHENS - PSV Eindhoven (Holland) 0:1, 0:2
------ 4. AEK ATHENS

GS: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Real Sociedad (Spain) 2:2, 0:1
GS: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 1:2, 0:7
GS: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Galatasaray Istanbul (Turkey) 3:0, 0:1
------ 4. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

GS: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Manchester United (England) 0:1 , 0:5
GS: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Glasgow Rangers (Scotland) 1:1, 3:1
GS: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - VFB Stuttgart (Germany) 1:3, 0:2
------ 3. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS

2004-2005

PR: PAOK Thessaloniki - Maccabi tel Aviv (Israel) 0:3f, 0:1

GS: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Deportivo la Coruna (Spain) 1:0, 0:0
GS: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Liverpool (England) 1:0, 1:3
GS: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - AS Monaco (France) 1:0, 1:2
------ 3. OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS

GS: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Rosenborg Trodheim (Norway) 2:1, 2:2
GS: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Arsenal London (England) 2:2, 1:1
GS: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - PSV Eindhoven (Holland) 4:1, 0:1
------ 3. PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS

EUROPEAN CHAMPIONS CUP/CHAMPIONS LEAGUE Statistics

PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - 117 games - (37 wins, 36 ties, 44 losses) - 115:138
OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - 82 games (25 wins, 18 ties, 39 losses) - 97:140
AEK ATHENS - 52 games - (12 wins, 18 ties, 22 losses) - 59:82
PAOK THESSALONIKI - 8 games - (1 win, 1 tie, 6 losses) - 5:16
AE LARISSA - 2 games - (1 win, 0 ties, 1 loss)

Here are all the results of the Greek teams in the UEFA Cup. Until 1970-71 season it was know as Fairs Cup.

FAIRS CUP

1955-1958

GREECE DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1958-1960

GREECE DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1960-1961

GREECE DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1961-1962

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - bye
R2: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - Vojvodina Novi Sad (Yugoslavia) 2:1, 1:9

1962-1963

DID NOT PARTICIPATE

1963-1964

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - Real Zaragoza (Spain) 0:3, 1:6

1964-1965

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - AS Roma(Italy) 0:0, 0:3

1965-1966

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Wiener Vienna (Austria) 2:1, 0:6

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - bye
R2: ARIS THESSALONIKI - 1. FC Koln (West Germany) 2:1, 0:2

1966-1967

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Juventus Torino (Italy) 0:2, 0:5

1967-1968

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Standard Liege (Belgium) 0:2, 2:3

1968-1969

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Daring Brussels (Belgium) 2:0, 1:2
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Athletic Bilbao (Spain) 0:0, 0:1

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Hibernian la Valletta (Malta) 1:0, 6:0
R2: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Dozsa Ujpest (Hungary) 1:2, 1:9

1969-1970

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Hansa Rostock (East Germany) 2:0, 0:3

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - US Cagliari (Italy) 1:1, 0:3

1970-1971

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Dinamo Bukurest (Romania) 1:0, 0:5

R1: AEK ATHENS - Twente Enschede (Holland) 0:1, 0:3

FAIRS CUP Statistics

ARIS THESSALONIKI - 12 games - (3 wins, 2 tie, 7 loss) - 12:28
PAOK THESSALONIKI - 6 games - (2 wins, 0 ties, 4 losses) - 5:17
PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - 4 games - (1 wins, 1 ties, 2 losses) - 3:3
PANIONIOS ATHENS - 2 games - (1 wins, 0 ties, 1 losses) - 2:3
IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - 4 games - (1 wins, 0 tie, 3 loss) - 4:19
AEK ATHENS - 2 games - (0 wins, 0 ties, 2 losses) - 0:4

UEFA CUP

1971-1972

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Atletico Madrid (Spain) 1:0, 1:2
R2: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Ferencvaros Budapest (Hungary) Panionios forfeited the games

1972-1973

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - US Cagliari (Italy) 2:1, 1:1
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Tottenham Hotspurs (England) 1:0, 0:4

R1: AEK ATHENS - Saljotarjan (Hungary) 3:1, 1:1
R2: AEK ATHENS - FC Liverpool (England) 1:3, 0:3

1973-1974

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - OFK Beograd (Yugoslavia) 1:2, 1:0

R1: PANAHAIKI PATRAS - Gak Graz (Austria) 2:1, 1:1
R2: PANAHAIKI PATRAS - Twente Enschede (Holland) 1:1, 0:7

1974-1975

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Grasshopers Zurich (Switzerland) 2:1, 0:2

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Rapid Vienna (Austria) 1:0, 1:3

1975-1976

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Barcelona (Spain) 1:0, 1:6

R1: AEK ATHENS - Vojvodina Novi Sad (Yugoslavia) 3:1, 0:0
R2: AEK ATHENS - Inter Bratislava (Czechoslovakia) 3:1, 0:2

1976-1977

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Sportul Bukurest (Romania) 1:0, 0:5

R1: AEK ATHENS - Dinamo Moscow (USSR) 2:0, 1:2
R2: AEK ATHENS - Derby County (England) 2:0, 3:2
R3: AEK ATHENS - Crvena Zvezda Beograd (Yugoslavia) 2:0, 1:3
QF: AEK ATHENS - Queens Park Rangers (England) 3:0, 0:3 (7:6 pen.)
SF: AEK ATHENS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 0:1, 1:4

1977-1978

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Dinamo Zagreb (Yugoslavia) 3:1, 1:5

R1: AEK ATHENS - Tirgu Mures (Romania) 3:0, 0:1
R2: AEK ATHENS - Standard Liege (Belgium) 2:2, 1:4

1978-1979

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Arges Pitesti (Romania) 1:2, 0:3

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Levski Spartak Sofia (Bulgaria) 2:1, 1:3

1979-1980

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - AC Napoli (Italy) 1:0, 0:2

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Benfica Lisbon (Portugal) 3:1, 1:2
R2: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Peruggia (Italy) 1:1, 3:0
R3: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Saint Etienne (France) 3:2, 1:4

1980-1981

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 4:2, 0:4

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Ipswich Town (England) 3:1, 1:5

1981-1982

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Arsenal London (England) 0:2, 1:0

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Sliema Wanderers (Malta) 4:0, 4:2
R2: ARIS THESSALONIKI - SC Lockeren (Belgium) 1:1, 0:4

1982-1983

R1: AEK ATHENS - 1. FC Koln (West Germany) 0:1, 0:5

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Sochaux (Switzerland) 1:0, 1:2
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Seville (Spain) 2:0, 0:4

1983-1984

R1: AE LARISSA - Honved Budapest (Hungary) 2:0, 0:3

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Lokomotiva Plovdiv (Bulgaria) 3:1, 2:1
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Bayern Munich (West Germany) 0:0, 0:0 (8:9 pen.)

1984-1985

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Xamax Neuchatel (Switzerland) 1:0, 2:2
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Universitate Craiova (Romania) 0:1, 0:1

1985-1986

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - AC Torino (Italy) 1:1, 1:2

R1: AEK ATHENS - Real Madrid (Spain) 1:0, 0:5

1986-1987

R1: OFI IRAKLIO - Hajduk Split (Yugoslavia) 1:0, 0:4

R1: AEK ATHENS - Inter Milan (Italy) 0:1, 0:2

1987-1988

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Toulouse (France) 0:1, 1:5

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - AJ Auxerre (France) 2:0, 2:3
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 1:0, 2:3
R3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Honved Budapest (Hungary) 5:1, 2:5
QF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Brugge (Belgium) 2:2, 0:1

1988-1989

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - AC Napoli (Italy) 1:1, 0:1

R1: AEK ATHENS - Athletic Bilbao (Spain) 1:0, 0:2

1989-1990

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - FC Sion (Switzerland) 1:0, 0:2

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Rad Beograd (Yugoslavia) 2:0, 1:2
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Fortuna Vienna (Austria) 1:1, 2:2
R3: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - AJ Auxerre (France) 1:1, 0:0

1990-1991

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Seville (Spain) 0:0, 0:0 (3:4 pen.)

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - FC Valencia (Spain) 0:0, 0:2

1991-1992

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Mechelen (Belgium) 1:1, 1:0
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Tirol Swarowski Innsbruck (Austria) 0:2, 0:2

R1: AEK ATHENS - Vllaznia Skoder (Albania) 2:0, 1:0
R2: AEK ATHENS - Spartak Moscow (Russia) 2:1, 0:0
R3: AEK ATHENS - AC Torino (Italy) 2:2, 0:1

1992-1993

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Paris Saint Germain (France) forfeit, 0:2

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Electroputere Craiova (Romania) 4:0, 6:0
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 0:1, 0:0

1993-1994

R1: OFI IRAKLIO - Slavia Prague (Czech Republic) 1:0, 1:1
R2: OFI IRAKLIO - Atletico Madrid (Spain) 2:0, 0:1
R3: OFI IRAKLIO - Boavisto Porto (Portugal) 1:4, 0:2

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Botev Plovdiv (Bulgaria) 5:1, 3:2
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - CD Tenerife (Spain) 4:3, 1:2

1994-1995

PR: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Hapoel Beer Sheba (Israel) 3:1, 2:1
R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - GKS Katowice (Poland) 1:0, 0:1 (3:4 pen.)

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Olympique Marseille (France) 1:2, 0:3

1995-1996

PR: APOLLON ATHENS - Olimpija Ljubljana (Slovenia) 1:0, 1:3

PR: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Slavia Sofia (Bulgaria) 1:0, 2:0
R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Maribor Branik (Slovenia) 2:0, 3:1
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Seville (Spain) 2:1, 0:1

1996-1997

PR: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - Apoel Nicosia (Cyprus) 0:1, 1:2

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Ferencvaros Budapest (Hungary) 2:2, 1:3

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Legia Warsaw (Poland) 4:2, 0:2

1997-1998

QR: OFI IRAKLIO - KR Reykjavik (Iceland) 3:1, 0:0
R1: OFI IRAKLIO - Ferencvaros Budapest (Hungary) 3:0, 1:2
R2: OFI IRAKLIO - AJ Auxerre (France) 3:2, 1:3

QR: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Spartak Trnava (Slovakia) 5:3, 1:0
R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Arsenal London (England) 1:0, 1:1
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Atletico Madrid (Spain) 4:4, 2:5

1998-1999

QR: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Glasgow Rangers (Scotland) 0:0, 0:2

Q2: AEK ATHENS - Ferencvaros Budapest (Hungary) 4:0, 2:4
R1: AEK ATHENS - Vitesse Arnheim (Holland) 3:3, 0:3

1999-2000

R1: ARIS THESALONIKI - Servette Geneva (Switzerland) 1:1, 2:1
R2: ARIS THESALONIKI - Celta Vigo (Spain) 2:2, 0:2

R1: AEK ATHENS - FC Torpedo Kutaisi (Georgia) 6:1, 1:0
R2: AEK ATHENS - MTK Hungaria Budapest (Hungary) 1:0, 1:2
R3: AEK ATHENS - AS Monaco (France) 2:2, 0:1

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Lokomotiv Tbilisi (Georgia) 2:0, 7:0
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Benfica Lisbon (Portugal) 1:2, 2:1 (1:4 pen.)

R1: IONIKOS NIKEAS - AS Nantes Atlantique (France) 1:3, 0:1
R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - NK Nova Gorica (Slovenia) 2:0, 1:0
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Grazer AK (Austria) 1:0, 1:2
R3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Deportivo la Coruna (Spain) 1:1, 2:4

R3: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Juventus Torino (Italy) 1:3, 2:1

2000-2001

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - FC Gueugnon (France) 1:0, 0:0
R2: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - 1.FC Kaiserlautern (Germany) 1:3, 3:2

R1: AEK ATHENS - Vasas Budapest (Hungary) 2:0, 2:2
R2: AEK ATHENS - Herfolge BK (Denmark) 5:0, 1:2
R3: AEK ATHENS - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Germany) 2:0, 4:4
R4: AEK ATHENS - Barcelona CF (Spain) 0:1, 0:5

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Beitar Jerusalem (Israel) 3:1, 3:3
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Udinese Calcio (Italy) 3:0, 0:1
R3: PAOK THESSALONIKI - PSV Eindhoven (Holland) 0:1, 0:3

R1: OFI IRAKLIO - FK Napredak Krusevac (Yugoslavia) 6:0, 0:0
R2: OFI IRAKLIO - SK Slavia Prague (Czech Republic) 2:2, 1:4

R3: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Liverpool (England) 2:2, 0:2

2001-2002

QR: AEK ATHENS - SC Grevenmacher (Luxembourg) 6:0, 2:0
R1: AEK ATHENS - Hibernian Edinburgh (Scotland) 2:0, 2:3
R2: AEK ATHENS - NK Osijek (Croatia) 3:2, 2:1
R3: AEK ATHENS - FC Litex Lovech (Bulgaria) 3:2, 1:1
R4: AEK ATHENS - Inter Milan (Italy) 2:2, 1:3

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Kornten (Austria) 4:0, 0:0
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - FC Marila Bribram (Czech Republic) 6:1, 2:2
R3: PAOK THESSALONIKI - PSV Eindhoven (Holland) 3:2, 1:4

2002-2003

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - Anorthosis Famagusta (Cyprus) 4:2, 1:3

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Litex Lovech (Bulgaria) 2:1, 1:0
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Fenerbahce Istanbul (Turkey) 4:1, 1:1
R3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Slovan Liberec (Czech Republic) 1:0, 2:2
R4: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - RSC AnderlechT Brussels (Belgium) 3:0, 0:2
QF: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - FC Porto (Portugal) 0:2, 1:0

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Leixoes SC (Portugal) 4:1, 1:2
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Grasshopers Club Zurich (Switzerland) 2:1, 1:1
R3: PAOK THESSALONIKI - SK Slavia Prague (Czech Republic) 1:0, 0:4

R1: SKODA XANTHI - Lazio Roma (Italy) 0:0, 0:4

R3: AEK ATHENS - Maccabi Haifa (Israel) 4:0, 4:1
R4: AEK ATHENS - Malaga CF (Spain) 0:1, 0:0

2003-2004

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - SFK Lyn Oslo (Norway) 0:1, 3:0
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Debrecen VSC (Hungary) 1:1, 0:0

R1: ARIS THESSALNIKI- CSF Zimbru Chisinau (Moldova) 2:1, 1:1
R2: ARIS THESSALONIKI - AC Perugia (Italy) 1:1, 0:2

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS- FC Nordsjaelland (Denmark) 2:1, 1:0
R2: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Barcelona FC (Spain) 0:3, 0:2

R3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - AJ Auxerre (France) 0:1, 0:0

2004-2005

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - AZ Almaar (Holland) 2:3, 1:2

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS- Udinese Calcio (Italy) 3:1, 0:1
GS: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Newcastle United (England) 0:1
GS: Sporting Lisbon (Portugal) - PANIONIOS ATHENS 4:1
GS: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Dinamo Tbilisi (Georgia) 5:2
GS: Sochaux Montpelier (France) - PANIONIOS ATHENS 1:0
4. Panionios Athens

R1: AEK ATHENS- NK Nova Gorica (Slovenia) 1:0, 1:1
GS: Zenit St. Petesburg (Russia) - AEK Athens 5:1
GS: AEK ATHENS - Lille (France) 1:2
GS: Seville (Spain) - AEK Athens 3:2
GS: AEK ATHENS - Aachen (Germany) 0:2
5. AEK Athens

R1: AIGALEO- Genclerbirligi (Turkey) 1:0, 1:1
GS: AIGALEO - Middlesborough (England) 0:1
GS: Partizan Beograd (Serbia & Montenegro) - AIGALEO 4:0
GS: AIGALEO - Lazio Roma (Italy) 2:2
GS: Villarreal (Spain) - AIGALEO 4:0
5. Aigaleo

R3: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Seville (Spain) 1:0, 0:2

R3: OLYMPAIKOS PIRAEUS - Sochaux Montpelier (France) 1:0, 1:0
R4: OLYMPAIKOS PIRAEUS - Newcastle United (England) 1:3, 0:4

UEFA CUP Statistics

AEK ATHENS - 74 games - (30 wins, 23 ties, 31 losses) – 115:113
PAOK THESSALONIKI - 56 games - (21 wins, 15 ties, 20 losses) - 81:78
PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - 46 games - (19 wins, 7 ties, 20 losses) - 65:61
OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - 44 games - (20 wins, 7 ties, 17 losses) - 59:67
ARIS THESSALONIKI - 26 games - (11 wins, 7 tie, 8 losses) - 42:41
OFI IRAKLIO - 18 games - (7 wins, 4 ties, 7 losses) - 26:26
IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - 12 games - (4 wins, 2 tie, 6 loss) - 12:17
PANAHAIKI PATRA - 4 games - (2 wins, 1 tie, 1 loss) - 4:9
AE LARISSA - 2 games - (1 wins, 0 ties, 1 losses) - 2:3
APOLLON ATHENS - 2 games - (1 wins, 0 ties, 1 losses) -2:3
PANIONIOS ATHENS - 15 games - (5 wins, 0 ties, 10 losses) -15:30
AIGALEO - 6 games - (1 wins, 2 ties, 3 loss) -4:12
SKODA XANTHI - 2 games - (0 wins, 1 ties, 1 loss) -0:4
IONIKOS NIKAIAS - 2 games - (0 wins, 0 tie, 2 loss) - 1:4

CUP WINNERS CUP

Here are all the results by Greek teams in the now-defunct UEFA's CUP WINNERS CUP

1960-1961

Greece did not participate

1961-1962

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Dynamo Zilina (Czechoslovakia) 2:3, 0:1

1962-1963

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Hibernian la Valleta (Malta) Olympiakos withdrew

1963-1964

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Zaglebie Sosnowiec (Poland) 2:1, 0:1, 2:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Olympique Lyon (France) 2:1, 1:4

1964-1965

R1: AEK ATHENS - Dinamo Zagreb (Yugoslavia) 2:0, 0:3

1965-1966

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Omonia Nicosia (Cyprus) 1:1, 1:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - West Ham United (England) 2:2, 0:4

1966-1967

R1: AEK ATHENS - Sporting Braga (Portugal) 0:1, 2:3

1967-1968

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Bayern Munich (West Germany) 1:2, 0:5

1968-1969

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Fram Reykjavik (Iceland) 2:0, 2:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - FC Dunferlime (Scotland) 3:0, 0:4

1969-1970

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Gornik Zabrze (Poland) 2:2, 0:5

1970-1971

R1: ARIS THESSALONIKI - Chelsea London (England) 1:1, 1:5

1971-1972

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Dinamo Moscow (USSR) 2:1, 0:2

1972-1973

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Rapid Vienna (Austria) 2:2, 0:0

1973-1974

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Legia Warsaw (Poland) 1:0, 1:1
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Olympique Lyon (France) 4:0, 3:3
Q: PAOK THESSALONIKI - AC Milan (Italy) 2:2, 0:3

1974-1975

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Crvena Zvezda Beograd (Yugoslavia) 1:0, 0:2

1975-1976

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Sachsering Zwickau (East Germany) 0:0, 0:2

1976-1977

R1: IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - Apoel Nicosia (Cyprus) 0:0, 0:2

1977-1978

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Zaglebie Sosnowiec (Poland) 2:0, 2:0
R2: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Bejle BK (Denmark) 2:1, 0:3

1978-1979

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - Servette Geneva (Switzerland) 2:0, 0:4

1979-1980

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Twente Enschede (Holland) 4:0, 1:3
R2: PANIONIOS ATHENS - IFK Gotteborg (Sweden) 1:0, 0:2

1980-1981

R1: GS KASTORIA - Dinamo Tbilisi (USSR) 0:0, 0:2

1981-1982

R1: PAOK THESSALONIKI - EintrachT Frankfurt (West Germany) 2:0, 0:2

1982-1983

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Austria Vienna (Austria) 2:1, 0:2

1983-1984

R1: AEK ATHENS - Dozsa Ujpest (Hungary) 0:2, 1:4

1984-1985

R1: AE LARISSA - Siofok Banyasz (Hungary) 2:0, 1:1
R2: AE LARISSA - Servette Geneva (Switzerland) 2:1, 1:0
Q: AE LARISSA - Dinamo Moscow (USSR) 0:0, 0:1

1985-1986

R1: AE LARISSA - Sampdoria Genoa (Italy) 1:1, 0:1

1986-1987

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Union Luxembourg (Luxembourg) 3:0, 3:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Ajax Amsterdam (Holland) 1:1, 0:4

1987-1988

R1: OFI IRAKLIO - Vitosha Sofia (Bulgaria) 3:1, 0:1
R2: OFI IRAKLIO - Atalanta Bergamo(Italy) 1:0, 0:2

1988-1989

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Omonia Nicosia (Cyprus) 2:0, 1:0
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - CFKA Sredec Sofia (Bulgaria) 0:1, 0:2

1989-1990

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Swansea City (Wales) 3:2, 3:3
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Dinamo Bukurest (Romania) 0:2, 1:6

1990-1991

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Flamurtari Vlora (Albania) 3:1, 2:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Sampdoria Genoa (Italy) 0:1, 1:3

1991-1992

R1: ATHINAIKOS BYRONAS - Manchester United (England) 0:0, 0:2

1992-1993

R1: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Cernomorec Odessa (Ukraine) 0:1, 3:0
R2: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - AS Monaco (France) 0:0, 1:0
Q: OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - Atletico Madrid (Spain) 1:1, 1:3

1993-1994

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Shelbourne Dublin (Ireland) 3:0, 2:1
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Bayer 04 Leverkusen (Germany) 1:4, 2:1

1994-1995

R1: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Pirin Blagoevgrad (Bulgaria) 6:1, 2:0
R2: PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - Club Brugge (Belgium) 0:0, 0:1

1995-1996

R1: AEK ATHENS - FC Sion (Switzerland) 2:0, 2:2
R2: AEK ATHENS - Borussia Monchengladbach (Germany) 0:1, 1:4

1996-1997

R1: AEK ATHENS - Chemlon Humene (Slovakia) 1:0, 2:1
R2: AEK ATHENS - Olimpija Llubljana (Slovenia) 4:0, 2:0
Q: AEK ATHENS - Paris Saint Germain (France) 0:3, 0:0

1997-1998

R1: AEK ATHENS - Dinaburg Daugavpils (Latvia) 5:0, 4:2
R2: AEK ATHENS - Sturm Graz (Austria) 2:0, 0:1
Q: AEK ATHENS - Lokomotiva Moscow (Russia) 0:0, 1:2

1998-1999 (Last season)

R1: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Haka Valkeakoski (Finland) 2:0, 3:1
R2: PANIONIOS ATHENS - Apollon Limassol (Cyprus) 3:2, 1:0
Q: PANIONIOS ATHENS - SS Lazio Roma (Italy) 0:4, 0:3

1998 - 1999 season was the last time that the UEFA's Cup Winners Cup was played.

Statistics:

PAOK THESSALONIKI - 18 games - (8 wins, 5 ties, 5 losses) - 24:23
AE LARISSA - 8 games - (3 wins, 2 ties, 2 losses) - 7:5
PANIONIOS ATHENS - 10 games - (6 wins, 0 ties, 4 losses) -15:15
AEK ATHENS - 22 games - (10 wins, 3 ties, 9 losses) - 33:27
OLYMPIAKOS PIRAEUS - 33 games - (14 wins, 6 ties, 13 losses) - 43:47
OFI IRAKLIO - 4 games - (2 wins, 0 ties, 2 losses) - 4:4
PANATHINAIKOS ATHENS - 22 games - (9 wins, 3 ties, 10 losses) - 29:36
GS KASTORIA - 2 games - (0 wins, 1 tie, 1 loss) - 0:2
ATHINAIKOS BYRONAS - 2 games - (0 wins, 1 tie, 1 loss) - 0:2
IRAKLIS THESSALONIKI - 2 games - (0 wins, 1 tie, 1 loss) - 0:2
ARIS THESSALONIKI - 2 games - (0 wins, 1 tie, 1 loss) - 2:6

PAO_HELLAS · 12-05-2005, 02:29 PM

Thanks for the archive

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plato-ny · 12-05-2005, 06:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PAO_HELLAS

Thanks for the archive

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You should make it into a "sticky"

PAO_HELLAS · 12-06-2005, 05:11 PM

Done.

bitsakos · 12-07-2005, 02:07 AM

plato do you know any turks . any friends?

plato-ny · 12-07-2005, 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitsakos

plato do you know any turks . any friends?

Why you ask??? Phillipas asked me the same question in the "Away from Greece" Thread.

muji · 12-07-2005, 09:15 AM

Plato can i ask why you do teams you beat in bold, and turkish teams you beat in bold and underline??

plato-ny · 12-08-2005, 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by muji

Plato can i ask why you do teams you beat in bold, and turkish teams you beat in bold and underline??

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Very simple. Since Turks and Albanians troll the Greek forum more than anybody else, I decided that if they were to look at this particular thread, then they would curious as to the history of Greek teams vs. Turkish and Albanian teams.

So, I highlighted that as such to make it easier for them to find. Also, the rest in bold are the runs that Greek teams had that were the best ones for all to easily research.

PAO_HELLAS · 12-09-2005, 11:07 AM

bitsakos · 12-09-2005, 09:19 PM

i ask cause you seem to really hate turks. i know about history but you live today, you never found one turk that you got along with? we're pretty alike now

plato-ny · 12-10-2005, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bitsakos

i ask cause you seem to really hate turks. i know about history but you live today, you never found one turk that you got along with? we're pretty alike now

Dont hate Turks. Never have. Knew Turks in school and they were all right. Just their governemnt and nationalists I dislike. And this forum has plenty of nationalists...

Im getting the growing feeling that you all think I'm some kind of fanatic nationalist. Im just defending HELLAS from people in this forum who put us down in every way from soccer to politics to culture to history based on ignorance, racism, and sheer envy.

Thats why ever since I joined this forum back in March, 9 months ago, I went out of my way to post articles and start threads that were related to our national team and in, some instances, basketball (Eurobasket 2005, FIBA 2006 World Championships, Panathinaikos making the final four). I also defended HELLAS in this forum and other forums (World Soccer/Euro 2008) from insults and put-downs and showed these haters why they were wrong or were contradicting themselves.

But since none of you appreciate that, this post will be my last and I'm not coming back...

Panathinaikos2 · 12-10-2005, 04:33 AM

What don't leave Plato. You're one of the best Greek users here not to mention one of the most intelletual Greek here.

PAO_HELLAS · 12-10-2005, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plato-ny

Dont hate Turks. Never have. Knew Turks in school and they were all right. Just their governemnt and nationalists I dislike. And this forum has plenty of nationalists...

Im getting the growing feeling that you all think I'm some kind of fanatic nationalist. Im just defending HELLAS from people in this forum who put us down in every way from soccer to politics to culture to history based on ignorance, racism, and sheer envy.

Thats why ever since I joined this forum back in March, 9 months ago, I went out of my way to post articles and start threads that were related to our national team and in, some instances, basketball (Eurobasket 2005, FIBA 2006 World Championships, Panathinaikos making the final four). I also defended HELLAS in this forum and other forums (World Soccer/Euro 2008) from insults and put-downs and showed these haters why they were wrong or were contradicting themselves.

But since none of you appreciate that, this post will be my last and I'm not coming back...

None wants you to leave. As Panathinaikos2 said you are one of the best and more intellectual Greek users of this forum.

But it doesn't makes a good impression to the others having a thread about Greek teams in European cups and underlining the Turkish and Albanian teams. I mean you want to prove what to who?

Anyway if this is what you feel I can't tell you something more. None called you a fanatic nationalist or something. I think you understand that we talk as friends and I don't want you to have any offense about what others or I tell you

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poutismalakas · 12-10-2005, 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plato-ny

Dont hate Turks. Never have. Knew Turks in school and they were all right. Just their governemnt and nationalists I dislike. And this forum has plenty of nationalists...

Im getting the growing feeling that you all think I'm some kind of fanatic nationalist. Im just defending HELLAS from people in this forum who put us down in every way from soccer to politics to culture to history based on ignorance, racism, and sheer envy.

Thats why ever since I joined this forum back in March, 9 months ago, I went out of my way to post articles and start threads that were related to our national team and in, some instances, basketball (Eurobasket 2005, FIBA 2006 World Championships, Panathinaikos making the final four). I also defended HELLAS in this forum and other forums (World Soccer/Euro 2008) from insults and put-downs and showed these haters why they were wrong or were contradicting themselves.

But since none of you appreciate that, this post will be my last and I'm not coming back...

QUIT BEING SUCH A DRAMA QUEEN!!!!!

NO ONE wants you to leave! Cut the drama
JUST try NOT to provoke the albanians and the turks here that is all!
I like reading your posts..... VERY informative!

OCFP · 03-03-2006, 12:25 AM

Nice post plato. By the way u should have not only underlined it and bolded it but made it a bigger font.