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    Default Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    I'll believe it when it happens! I hope it happens though


    ANKARA, Turkey (AP) -- Turkey's parliament is poised to approve a law allowing properties confiscated by the state to be returned to Christian and Jewish minority foundations.

    The reform appears designed to meet conditions set by the European Union for Turkey's membership in its club, but critics say the measure would not go far enough.

    Parliament is expected to vote as soon as next week on returning property to religious minorities, and the ruling party of Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan has the majority required to approve the law.

    Parliament first approved it in November 2006, but the president at the time, Ahmet Necdet Sezer, was a government opponent and he vetoed it.

    The country of 70 million people, most of them Muslim, includes 65,000 Armenian Orthodox Christians, 23,000 Jews, and fewer than 2,500 Greek Orthodox Christians

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    What ?

    That is still a problem over there ?

    Not even Bosnia have this problem anymore. I can say 99% of the properties are returned or owner sold it.

    For example one have property in mostly Bosniak populated city, he will sell that and move where his people are majority . Or people would just exchange their properties in such situation. But still most of the people returned, and live where they used to before war, of course is not the same as it was but.......
    Last edited by poutismalakas; 02-11-2008 at 11:25 PM.
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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Quote Originally Posted by poutismalakas View Post
    well apparently your brothers the Turks are not so secular as you claim! The Greek Orthodox seminary in Haliki has been closed for over 30 years with the Turkish government refusing to reopen it! The Patriachate is not called by it proper title Ecumenical.

    As far as that thread is concerned I was asked to delete by a few people who felt offended by it so I did.

    Well we didnt even discuss much about Turks out here, i knew females cant wear hijab and go to school over there, so we have a lot of students from Turkey in Bosnia going to colleges.

    I think Turks are forcing secularism on its people, and its sad when a 90% Muslim populated country have such a law, let alone France wich did the same thing but that is a Christian nation !

    About that thread, who would feel offended ? There was nothing racist or anything in there. Meybe someone didnt like the truth, truth sometimes hurts, and its sad that we cant have a thread wich is writen by a reporter, and wich was probably in some magazine/newpaper.

    Whoever was offended by the truth, and ashamed of it they should stop being cry babies and face it like a real human being. Otherwise it will hunt them until the rest of their lifes.
    Zemljo mojih djedova dok je tvojih sinova,
    ti ces biti prkosna slobodna i ponosna...


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    Quote Originally Posted by Bosnian Unit View Post
    Well we didnt even discuss much about Turks out here, i knew females cant wear hijab and go to school over there, so we have a lot of students from Turkey in Bosnia going to colleges.

    I think Turks are forcing secularism on its people, and its sad when a 90% Muslim populated country have such a law, let alone France wich did the same thing but that is a Christian nation !

    About that thread, who would feel offended ? There was nothing racist or anything in there. Meybe someone didnt like the truth, truth sometimes hurts, and its sad that we cant have a thread wich is writen by a reporter, and wich was probably in some magazine/newpaper.

    Whoever was offended by the truth, and ashamed of it they should stop being cry babies and face it like a real human being. Otherwise it will hunt them until the rest of their lifes.
    Hijab ban was lifted 2 days ago by Turkish Parliament.

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Quote Originally Posted by el Turco View Post
    Hijab ban was lifted 2 days ago by Turkish Parliament.



    That is great for Turkey, very important . I belive in individual freedom and if someone wants to wear it why try to stop them.
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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Quote Originally Posted by poutismalakas View Post
    well apparently your brothers the Turks are not so secular as you claim! The Greek Orthodox seminary in Haliki has been closed for over 30 years with the Turkish government refusing to reopen it! The Patriachate is not called by it proper title Ecumenical.

    As far as that thread is concerned I was asked to delete by a few people who felt offended by it so I did.

    May i re-correct you please, the Turks are not my brothers, the Bosnjaks and Turks have nothing connected to each other.

    And the Greeks and Serbs are not brothers either, they just have good diplomatic relations with each other.

    we Bosnjaks are most likley brothers with Croatians or Bulgarians as there were old Bosnjak race Bogomils that lived there.

    now on topic: This is good news for minorities in Turkey now when will the Turkish goverment stop forcing minorty peoples to change there surname when the gain citizenship.

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    I have made a thread about the Turban law in the Turkish Section, if anyone wants to talk there. All my views are expressed over there.

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Quote Originally Posted by Bosnian Unit View Post
    You are full of

    NO i am not! Insult me again and I'll start acting like some of the sensitive people here! If you want the thread open... open it your self but if some complains bye bye thread! Also bosnia has NOTHING to do with Minorities in Turkey!

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    I am curious if the properties of the Patriarchate are going to be returned as well. Most possibly the law concerns the private individuals. They will find away to "illegalize" the Patriarchate and excluded it, we know well how the Turkish government is with these.

    Even if they had such an intention though, I don't think there is a way to calculate the amount of property that is confiscated from the Patriarchate. This it is happening for centuries.
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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Quote Originally Posted by PAO_HELLAS View Post
    I am curious if the properties of the Patriarchate are going to be returned as well. Most possibly the law concerns the private individuals. They will find away to "illegalize" the Patriarchate and excluded it, we know well how the Turkish government is with these.

    Even if they had such an intention though, I don't think there is a way to calculate the amount of property that is confiscated from the Patriarchate. This it is happening for centuries.
    Well i hope this allows the school in Haliki to be reopened?!! If that happens along with the return property Hellenism may survive in Turkey!

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    Well... It would be more realistic to talk about keeping the Patriarchate open, than to talk about the re-opening of Halki theological school. We are familiar with the Turkish regime.

    Except if the government of Erdogan will decide to ignore the nationalistic parastate on this issue, but this isn't something easy.
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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    I agree on that pao. i just don't understand the logic here! The Patriachate could be used to make Istanbul some serious cash from the hotels, Resturants, vendors used by the Religous Tourist who come for Pascha, Christmas and the various hoildays!
    Last edited by Fenerliyim; 02-12-2008 at 09:58 PM.

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    When why and what did the Turkish government confiscate?

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Quote Originally Posted by aslanlar View Post
    When why and what did the Turkish government confiscate?
    IMO racism also it happened around the Cyprus invasion by turkey

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    Default Re: Turkey set to return minorities' properties

    Why = racism apperently
    Now when and what did the Turkish government confiscate?

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