View Full Version : Who should leave Kluivert or Rivaldo?
Azerkid
05-08-2002, 12:50 AM
Which one of them should leave?
Roberto Abrego
05-08-2002, 12:59 AM
ofr course both of them should stay why leave????
Azerkid
05-08-2002, 09:33 PM
well i heard stuff that Rivaldo might go but if not there gonna get rid Kluivert since there not sure who they should build the team around. Well if there was only one choice who should go Rivaldo or Kluivert?
alex_10
05-08-2002, 10:39 PM
maybe there will be trade rivaldo=???+???+????.............
everybody wants to see rivaldo to play in their team
he should stay,i hope
Roberto Abrego
05-08-2002, 11:41 PM
IT is to hard for me to decide
Olesen10
05-11-2002, 09:08 PM
Kluivert i very vital for Barca, because he makes a lot of goals, but without Rivaldo, the brazilian touch and style would be gone, and Barca would just be a good team, not the one with Rivaldo.
In this season, Barca has counted on the youth, and thats a good thing. They will probably end on the third place, but it's a good result considering that it's a hole new team with a lot of young players. But the youth can't work without a mentor or a teacher, and i think Rivaldo will be the best teacher for the young players. And on the same time, he's one of the best football'ers ever! But Kluivert is the perfect forward!
Azerkid
05-11-2002, 09:14 PM
well said olesen :thumbsup: :)
Olesen10
05-11-2002, 09:18 PM
And interesting subject!
BLAUGRANA
05-11-2002, 11:22 PM
I'd take Kluivert over Rivaldo. Rivaldo is getting older and it seems injuries are catching up with him. Kluivert had a great season and scored a lot of goals. He really worked his socks off against Real in the CL semifinal game 1.
Rivaldo won't garner too much in the transfer market. Lazio used to be interested. I would see if they'd swap Mendieta for Rivaldo. What do you think???
Olesen10
05-11-2002, 11:34 PM
If Rivaldo should transfer, Barca should buy an absolute topplayer, not Mendieta. Barca doesn't need a player who has to find him self again like Mendieta, because he hadn't had a good season in Italy at all. If Barca should switch players with a club it should be Man Utd. and Beckham. I know it's too late because he is injured and have signed a new contract with United, but i think Beckham was, before the injury, the best player to play for Barca.
I know many thinks this is wrong, but i'd wish Figo came back!
BLAUGRANA
05-12-2002, 05:19 AM
Trust me, I'd much rather have Beckham. Problem is, it would never happen. Rivaldo would only fetch 12-15 million pounds on the transfer market. Becks would fetch closer to 30 million. That's why I said SWAP him for Mendieta. Then, you still have the regular pool of available transfer funds to bring in someone else.
ItalianBoy
05-12-2002, 06:24 AM
Mendi Lopez and Simeone are off to AT Madrid. I think anyone likes a player like Riva, stil over Kluivert its hard. I woudl choose kluivert, has in Geovanni is not bad and I think he will be the direct sub of Riva.
Olesen10
05-12-2002, 10:19 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
Trust me, I'd much rather have Beckham. Problem is, it would never happen. Rivaldo would only fetch 12-15 million pounds on the transfer market. Becks would fetch closer to 30 million. That's why I said SWAP him for Mendieta. Then, you still have the regular pool of available transfer funds to bring in someone else.
Rivaldo is still, after all, very vital for Barca's results in the league and CL. He scores many important goals, and i don't think he's getting old! He has a lot of injuries yes, but look at Ronaldo, he's not old either, it's bad luck! He's given Barca so many memories: http://www.fcbarcelonaweb.com/videos/rivo4.jpg
http://www.fcbarcelonaweb.com/videos/rivo2.jpg
http://www.fcbarcelonaweb.com/videos/rivo.jpg
And i don't think Beckham would be that much more expensiv. And i still think Mendieta is overrated, Rivaldo is still a lot better than he is! They are also two different types of players. Rivaldo as the magician, and Mendieta as the Captain. If they swapped, who should Barca buy then?
BLAUGRANA
05-13-2002, 01:07 AM
Mendieta isn't for sure off to Atletico just yet, or is he??
Trust me, Rivaldo will not fetch more than 15 million pounds on the market. I personally still think he's got it, but unless he signs an extension, we should sell him this summer or we'll get even less later on. I dont' think he's too old, but if he doesnt' sign an extension he will be too old to get good money for him.
Yes, Mendieta had a poor season last year. However, it was his first season in Serie A and he played with Lazio to boot. I know he is a different player than Rivaldo, but he's still very good. He was great with Valencia and also for Spain at Euro 2000. He can play in a number of different positions to boot.
I don't know who Barca would buy to replace Rivaldo. I don't think there are too many similar players out there. I'd like to see them go in for Tristan. Ruud van Nistelroy was a rumoured target, but I doubt he'd be for sale much less leave Man Utd for Barca.
I'm not a Geovanni fan at all. I think we paid too much for him and he has underperformed.
BRING BACK SIMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roberto Abrego
05-13-2002, 07:47 PM
Mendieta is overrated
Ruvaldo is an exellent player I think he is the best,without him Barcelona cant shine,they r just a good team without him,his playing style is just to good.
Roberto Abrego
05-13-2002, 07:48 PM
About Beckham he should stay at Man U he wont be s great player at Spain neither Italy.
Olesen10
05-14-2002, 06:33 AM
Originally posted by Roberto Abrego
Mendieta is overrated
Ruvaldo is an exellent player I think he is the best,without him Barcelona cant shine,they r just a good team without him,his playing style is just to good.
That's right! Rivaldo makes Barca play better, even when he's injured. Without him, Barca wouldn't be in the world elite. Then Barca would just be a regular team.
Keep Rivaldo!
BLAUGRANA
05-15-2002, 04:17 AM
Rivaldo didn't have as much of an impact this year and we still finished in the same spot. Yes, he is an inspiration and seems to be able to raise his game on a whim. However, it is a team game.
alex_10
05-15-2002, 09:47 PM
agree,team work
but u see everyone wants rivaldo,what for?coze he is the best!!!
he mISS ALL THE SEASON!and when he played he was under anestetics:(
really none is like him!!KEEP HIM will best way
BLAUGRANA
05-15-2002, 10:57 PM
Yes, but didn't we still finish in the same spot as last year without him for most of this season? ANSWER=YES.
Look, I don't want him to leave. I do want him to sign a contract extension though. Do you all want him to stay for one more season and then lose him for nothing? Unfortunately, money is a factor.
alex_10
05-16-2002, 10:33 PM
yes!
something like that was last year,u know,ZZ in real
he made ultimatum,to play one more season with juve,but next year to go for free!!!
so it looks that was good move for juve:)juve get 65 million american dollar and win SERIA A:)my opinion is that noone cost so much,ever ZZ,rivaldo or another,but like i said that was GREAT!!!:)
BLAUGRANA
05-17-2002, 12:01 AM
Unfortunately, we'd only get about 15 million pounds for Rivaldo ($22 million). If he had a great WC with Brazil, we might be able to get 20 million pounds.
Roberto Abrego
05-17-2002, 11:12 PM
he should stay
BLAUGRANA
05-18-2002, 04:00 AM
If he wants to stay, then he should sign a contract extension and that's it. OTHERWISE, sell him!
Roberto Abrego
05-21-2002, 03:26 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
If he wants to stay, then he should sign a contract extension and that's it. OTHERWISE, sell him!
No!!!
BLAUGRANA
05-21-2002, 06:15 AM
He didn't play for more than half of this season and they were better than last year. As I've said before, I don't want to see him leave. However, if he doesn't sign an extension to his contract, sell him now while you can still get something. No player is bigger than the club.
alex_10
05-21-2002, 09:36 PM
i say:Rivaldo,please stay!
BLAUGRANA
05-22-2002, 04:42 AM
Well, LVG went on television and said he will be keeping both Rivaldo and Kluivert for next season. Now it's up to the players, but I think they'll both be happy. Now, i'd like to see Rivaldo extend his current contract so we don't lose him for nothing in a year.
Roberto Abrego
05-23-2002, 03:44 AM
ohhh thank god!!:)
ItalianBoy
05-23-2002, 05:38 AM
Why would you sell one of them? They are great players!
BLAUGRANA
05-23-2002, 09:43 PM
Because, as I've posted a million or so times that Rivaldo's contract is up in a year. That's why.
Roberto Abrego
05-27-2002, 03:14 AM
Originally posted by azulgrana
Because, as I've posted a million or so times that Rivaldo's contract is up in a year. That's why.
they should give him the money he wants!
BLAUGRANA
05-27-2002, 03:46 AM
I'll have to think about that one.
Roberto Abrego
05-28-2002, 12:40 AM
if he goes!!!then we wont have a SuperStar player like Rivaldo
Roberto Abrego
05-28-2002, 12:41 AM
unless we buy a player more or less like him.
BLAUGRANA
05-28-2002, 01:09 AM
I wouldn't pay him more than he earns now though. He is sufficiently paid at the moment.
Roberto Abrego
05-28-2002, 03:44 AM
but maybe he thinks that he can earned what Figo and Zidane earned.
BLAUGRANA
05-28-2002, 06:33 AM
He already earns that much.
BLAUGRANA
05-28-2002, 06:37 AM
Rivaldo makes 110,000 pounds a week.
Zidane makes 80,000 pounds a week.
Figo makes 73,000 pounds a week.
Only players who make more than Rivaldo are Batistuta (for sure) and probably Beckham. That's it. He's sufficiently paid.
BLAUGRANA
05-28-2002, 05:02 PM
Rivaldo has said he will play anywhere LVG tells him too, even keeper! Good news.
nismo
05-29-2002, 03:00 AM
rivaldo would make good goalkeeper
i mean he's lanky like a pole and pretty flexible to reach out for balls and acrobatic movement:D
BLAUGRANA
05-29-2002, 03:19 AM
He could probably score from that deep as well, and I don't mean an own goal. :D
Azerkid
05-29-2002, 03:28 AM
I would say Kluivert because he's not injury hampered unlike Rivaldo and also young which means he has even more time to develop but im not saying Rivaldo is not good, hes probably more smart on the field then Pat.
Giancarlo Lahoz
05-30-2002, 03:47 AM
I believe Rivaldo should go to Inter there he will be safe well take care of him
i also belive rivaldo should go because Van Gaal is bound to move him to left wing were he used to play and it would a waste of talent from a person who a demonstrated to be capable of creating magic in the center ,
Also van Gaal is not staying Very long Remember what he called "the President " before leaving barca last time
"incompetent immoral"and all the other things
BLAUGRANA
05-30-2002, 06:01 AM
NOT A CHANCE. Rivaldo will be staying at Barca because he loves the club. LVG will be staying because he wins titles.
alex_10
05-30-2002, 09:44 PM
good news :)
rivaldo stays!!!
i read in newspaper today,he say that he want to stay coze bad season,and when he was asked about playing on left winger position,he answered that he will play as goalkeeper if VG want that!FORZA RIVALDO.................FORZA BARCA!!!!!!!!!
BLAUGRANA
05-30-2002, 10:00 PM
I posted that days ago. Anyway, the latest rumour i've read is that he could be going to Lazio in a deal that would bring Crespo and Mendieta to Barca. I'm sure Lazio would be getting cash as well.
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