Mirkovic topic

[Omar]

Who deleted the Mirkovic topic? Just wondering. . .

[Juve Fan]

Well see the point is I dont know why Grobar deleted it... Maybe because it has proof of how rude he was to me when calling me IDIOT ?? Then he asks to stop the fight and cotinues the insults in the Canada forum ???

I just want to know who and why elected him as the Juve moderator ?? Look at his post in the canada forum, he was telling me "Wasnt Mijatovic the one who scored against Juve in the CL final ? Thats why you dont like the guy because he made you cry"

Okay I was really pissed off that day not because of mijatovic scored but becuase I like Juventus and they lost the the final.. How could he possibly be a Juve moderator if he does not like Juventus, only likes "Kovacevic" and "Mirkovic", all his countrymen.. Sorry Omar but this was a mistake giving him this privilage.. He can go moderate the Red star or Partizan belgrade forums but he has no feeling for Juve.. At least I closed the topic but did not delete it..

One last question where is Vatreni ?? Banned ??? Why ???? You also said to stop politics on the Yugo board and Mihajlovic agreed but then 2 days after that Mihajlovic posts : "www.albanian.com hacked :D , good job" , next posts Mr. Otago "Now the NATO next" !! I see the politics have been stopped.

You have to take action Omar... I dont want to spend the rest of my life arguing with such people...

I hope you justify the Vatreni thing..

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[Omar]

1) Grobar, please do not delete topics. Just close them. Only delete them if all the posts are inappropriate. Just reply to the topic stating why it's inappropriate, then close it. That way, people see what's wrong, and the board keeps the posts.

2) Vatreni has not been banned. Many asked that he be banned, but it would have been unfair to ban him, in my opinion, because he isn't the only one that posts inappropriately. Plus, he's been posting great posts lately. Nothing bad.

Please everybody try to put politics aside and discuss the sport of soccer. If politics was to intrude in soccer, no matches would be played. Am I right?

[Tariq]

You are definitely right Omar. Just when I was relieved that the Yugoslavia forum was lightening up with arguments and wars, this forum starts. Come on, guys, lets just keep this a friendly soccer message board.

P.S. To Moderators, another reason for not deleting topics is that we can recognize that you are doing your job if you close them. If anything gets too inappropriate, please inform us immediately.

Forza Friendly Soccer Board

[GROBAR_OTAGO]

Listen here guys,
Both me and Grobar are Juve fans, but more-so
Yugoslavia fans. I understand that some of you only cheer for your club, because you national team just sucks(Canada)...we however love Yugoslavia much more than Juventus, and therefore we want Mirkovic and Kovacevic to play. And if they dont get the chance to play in Turin, then obviously it would be best for them to move to another club.

About Vatreni, he is just a racist. Just take a look at some of the posts he posted at the Yugo forum, saying stuff like, "Ustasa did a great job"(killing serbs) and also things about how gret NATO is to murder 1000's of inocent people in Srbia...

[Juve Fan]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GROBAR_OTAGO:
I understand that some of you only cheer for your club, because you national team just sucks(Canada)...<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

DO you people have problems reading ? I wish Grobar had not deleted that topic.. I wanted to copy and paste my reply...
I am not Canadian so basically you are not affecting me by saying that the Canadian national team sucks.. gambine has an Italian origin, and as 3 times WORLD CUP CHAMPIONS let alone European champs you better give him and the team he routes for respect... On the other hand Canada does not suck and at least they won the Gold Cup, you won nothing...

If I were American (which i am not) how would I consider you statement "Next, the Nato" ??

How come I never had an argument with Vatreni but you had arguments with every other person on the list ?




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[gambine]

Well grobar_otago, I'm actually an Italian-Canadian, but more so, I'm a football fan. If Grobar is a Juve fan, he should be more concerned with the team than with one or two players who are the same nationality as him. You see, if you are a football fan, you should love both club and country, just in different ways. How can anyone profess to be a football fan if their interests are solely nationalistic?

You don't see me saying Albertini should either start regularly or leave Milan only because he is Italian.

To be a moderator of the Juve forum, one would think you would have to have a strong allegiance to the club. If you don't, how can you be a fan, or a moderator? It's simple, you CAN'T.

Neither myself nor Juve Fan were attacking Grobar because he is Yugoslav, only becaue he has no opionin on anything that doesn't involve Yugoslavia or a Yugoslav player. At least 90% of his posts are Yugoslav oriented, and it gets annoying.

Put yourself in Juve Fan's shoes. Grobar, who is supposed to be a Juve fan, thinks Mirkovic should either play or be sold, even though he is not good enough to be a starter on this current Juve squad, and every team needs bench players in case of injury or a change in tactics.

Is he a Juve fan or a Mirkovic fan?

PS That was a rhetorical question.

[PFC]

I agree 100% with Grobar_Otago my love for Yugoslavia is much greater then for Juve. Mirkovic was one of my favourite players after playing for Partizan a team followed by my WHOLE family ever since their existence some 50 years ago. I will not tolerate anyone putting down Mijatovic he has been my idol ever since (I met him in person) :) :) :) :) and when he had put a black and white Partizan jersey on. For example Juve fan who has posted a "WC98 flashback" in the Canadian forum, I sugggest you all read that and actually seefor yourself who is starting a fight here. :mad: :mad:. Thats not to say I am not a Juve fan I love them too but NEVER as much Partzian.

About Vatreni this guy is nothing but a rasict. One of his topics was unluckly deleted by Mihajlovic where he sad he was a proud "ustasa" killing serbs.

[PFC]

Juve Fan we won the Champions Leage in 90-91, something Canada can only dream about.

[gambine]

I didn't think Canada could win the CL. Isn't a club competition open to only to European clubs?

Why would you be bragging about Red Star winning it, when you're a Partizan fan?

The longer this arguement goes on, the worse you are starting to look :(

You started a topic saying enough is enough, let's forget about the arguement and get back to talking football. Juve Fan and I both agreed. Did you mean it?

[Juve Fan]

Grobar you know its fun talking to you, I believe when I am arguing with anyone I always lose some rounds and win some but with you I have the feeling I win all..
Now answers for you..

1. Zvezda in year 1990-1991... So whats the point of the question ?
2. Cant you still understand I am not Canadian ?
3. Did Yuogo win anything as a National team ? Well Canada did and they must be proud of beating Mexico and Columbia...

There is nothing as I am more a Mirkovic fan, the whole team comes before a player otherwise you are not a true fan at all..

As for Mijatovic and the WC flash back thing hehehehe hehe, then I was just recalling one of the matches in the world cup and these were the words of the commentator, I have nothing to do with it.. I cold have mentioned a Argentina X England game instead, besides I did not mess up with Mijatovic (anyways I think he is overrated :p).
For once accept the fact that you are no Juventus fan.. Your coute saying Mijatovic made me cry when he scored for Rela MAdrd against Juventus in the final of the CL proves it, otherwise you would have cried too for the Juve loss.. You are a fake :)

FORZA BIANCONERI :D

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[PFC]

Geez you people sure answer fast I just posted 10 minutes ago. About Red Star Gambine I am a Partizan fan, but when any Yugoslav team wins the Champions league I will be proud . If you knew anything at all about soccer it would be following your domestic team when they play ANYONE from different countries, afcourse in Canada they don't have domestic teams so you wouldn't know. Juve Fan it doesnt suprise me that you think we are in a "battle" that you are psychologicaly in your mind "winning", because ever since I have been moderator of this room you have tried nothing but argue with me, that whole Mirkovic topic had nothing to do with him starting, I just said he had potential and should be SOLD where he can actually play.

[PFC]

Juve Fan our U21 national team were the world champs in 85, something Canada for sure never has or never will win. :) :) :)


Ajmo ajde svi u napad

[Juve Fan]

Heheheahaha, Grobar you are killing me hehehahah...

1. First day I joined the room I became a moderator which was 3 days ago, so I cant possibly be arguing with you because of that right ? In fact I dont mind a true Juve fan at all, I would be delighted to co-moderate with another Juve lover...

2. I am not fighting, I am arguing with you.. I dont think this is a fighting tone at all... My point is its very annoying if I start ten topics about 10 things, one of the concerning kova and Mirkovic and you answer only this topic ignoring the rest.. Being biased of course :)

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[Juve Fan]

Who cares about U21 team ? Again please man, understand Okay I will make it simple

I - AM - NOT - CANADIAN ..

that means I am not from the above country ok ?

U21 tournies are just a supplement for losers who cant win anything :p

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[Juve Fan]

Ajmo ajde svi u napad

What the hell does that mean ? I can right in my first language and you will not have a clue what I am saying but I do have respect for the conversation :)

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[Juve Fan]

Nishta ...........

Forget this message..
:)

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[This message has been edited by Juve Fan (edited 24 April 2000).]

[gambine]

Grobar, I remember that U21 tournament. It was actually in 87' mr hard core fan.

Since you continue to knock Canada for no apparent reason let's play a trivia game.

Three questions:

1.Who won the golden boot at that tournament?
2.Who was named the first most promising player at the tournament?
3.Who was named the second most promising player at the tournament?


Can you answer these questions?

[Juve Fan]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by gambine:
It was actually in 87' mr hard core fan.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

lol @ gambine :D heheheahaha



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[PFC]

You guys just don't have a life..

[Juve Fan]

We do, but it has a different definition than yours :)

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[gambine]

Grobar, since you didn't respond, let me tell you the answers. I thought your vast knowledge of the game would guide you through what must be an easy question for any Yugoslav.

1.Who won the golden boot at the tournament?

Name: Davor Suker
Club: Arsenal
Country: Croatia

2.Who was named the first most promising player at the tournament?

Name: Robert Prosinecki
Club: Dinamo Zagreb
Country: Croatia

3.Who was named the second most promising player at the tournament?

Name: Zvonimir Boban
Club: AC Milan :)
Country: Croatia

Now tell me, did Yugoslavia really win that tournament, or did Croatia win it under the disguise of Yugoslavia?


OOOOOOOHHHHHHHHHHHH! That had to hurt.

[PFC]

I like to know where you found these stats, give me the source

[gambine]

Nowhere in particular Hardcore, I just kind of picked it up as time went by. But, I'm pretty sure if you go to www.fifa.com (http://www.fifa.com) you'll be able to find it.

Are you ready to get back to a normal conversation or what?

[PFC]

HAHA sure u did, made up all the stats yourself probably.... :D

[gambine]

You're just a glutton for punishment aren't ya Hardcore. Why don't you check out Fifa's site, or even check out a Yugoslav site. I'm sure they'll have it.

One thing I have to say is that you sure don't know as much about football as you claim. Surely you would know this to be true. Then again, you didn't even get the year right.

I'll do you a favour, I'll find it somewhere on the net, and I'll give you the address. :)

[PFC]

You do that.... HAVE FUN

[GROBAR_OTAGO]

It dosent matter who got those awards back in 87(though I'm pretty sure what you say bullshit) because Yugoslavia now-a-days is better than Croatia. And they are even better than Italy!

Anyway Juve Fan,
I dont know what kind of fan you are, because as most people are aware of, Darko Kovacevic is the most loved player at Juventus(by the fans)

As for Mirkovic,
I hope he comes back to the club that raised him, Partizan :)

[Juve Fan]

Mr. Otago, I am beginning to lose my nerves.. Anyone else can call me a non-Juve fan but you... Again and Again I dont give a sh!t about any player in Juve as long as the team in winning.. You and Hardcore are 10000%
fakes, you support only your countrymen dont let me start this again because you both know nothing about Juventus.. You are no true juventus fans and dont accuse me of that again, go to your Partizan or Red star forum. If you know nothing about me and Juventus other than "Hail kova and Mirkovic" then zip it... :mad:

This topic will be closed.. gambine dont give the guys proof, they will say you made up the site yourself.. Yes your teams suck..

Most arrogant and pathetic people I have seen in my life... Always fights thats all they can think of.... :mad:

"Hail Kovacevic" ....

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[GROBAR_OTAGO]

Lisnt mate,
How can you call us fakes, all of us support Juventus, just for different reasons....

Ofcource I favur Kova and Bata Mirkovic, but I was still happy when Juve beat Fiorentina, even though Kova didnt score...

And I will state again, I love Yugoslavia and Partizan much more than Juventus(1000x more :)). And I want Mirkovic and Kova to play well because we've got EURO2000 to worry about :)

And if I were you, I woudnt be a so anti-serb, you can get in some serious shit if you are(at least in Srbia :))

[Juve Fan]

Oooooh, am I scared... People what do you think you are ?? I am not getting deep into the facts and the reality that you dont want to believe, close minded, arrogant... Again starting political topics : "You can get into deep sh!t coz you are anti-Serbian" ..

1. your last post you just show how illeterate and arrogant you are, vatreni was right, you people are the cause of problem everywhere...
2. What do you think you are, what are you going to do ??
3. A child that you are know nothing about facts, how old are you ?....
4. YOU ARE A FAKEEEEEEEE, I love my Hometown club more than Juventus.. BUT Still my love for Juventus exceeds your love to whatever clubs you support..

Summary, stop the idiotic threatning posts, I am in no good mood today and you are my least worry, I dont need people like you to spoil my day even more..
:mad:

PLEASE OMAR TARIQ REMOVE MY MODERATION... I DONT WANT TO BE BLAMED FOR BEING A MODERATOR AND SAYING STUFF LIKE THAT.. I hope from now on Juventus can dump Kovacevic and Mirkovic to any Serie C club so that those fakes can leave us...

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[PFC]

Qoute
" Vatreni was right you people are the cauz of all problems"

Just when it seemed we settled things you have to make a totaly 100% racist comment. You are reffering to all of serbs being the problem. That my friend is a TOTALLY not just racist, bigot, but biased comment. I hope you get banned for that, all of our comments had nothing to do up to now about politics . How about you go buy yourself a John Rocker jersey, because thats your level.

[Juve Fan]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by GROBAR_OTAGO:
you can get in some serious shit if you are(at least in Srbia :)) <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Says it all... I said "you guys" referring to (Otago, and Grobar, who the hell gave you the idea I was talking about all serbs) Maybe you are living again in that dream that everyone is against you...

If anyone started politics then its Otago by that idiotic post, and if there is one thing I hate then it is treatning me..

Finally Omar, Tariq judge about it.. You Grobar hope everyone gets banned except you and the rest of your friends.

Anyways 2 fast points to make..

1. Omar and Tariq can ban me.. Its their right, but you still both are the most arrogant and pathetic people (that is Otago and Hard core fan) I have seen in my life... Both of you go get a life..

2. Do you think I will cry if I get banned ? I post over 4 other message boards and have above 600 posts in all, I just wanted to bring some life to this board... I will just invite gambine, Omar and Tariq to join me there.. You can have your Yugo forum to yourself, hehahehah Loser...

Again go get a life...

I wonder how old are you kiddos ?

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[This message has been edited by Juve Fan (edited 24 April 2000).]

[PFC]

WOW WOW you sure put me down there I am crying as I am typing, Juve Fan said I don't have a life. Funny you saying you don't care in the last 10 minutes you had to of posted atleast 10 messsages.