View Full Version : this should not be tolerated
Severus
04-28-2002, 04:54 AM
i got caught in a slugfest with a bunch of racist meatheads about muslims and such and i really think everyone who is serious about maintaining WSB's position as one of the premier message boards on the net, should stand up to this racism and not tolerate it any longer. quite frankly, rubbish like this will not attract knowledgable futbol fans and its the complacency of us civilized ones who allow it to grow and breed brand new hittler wannabes every time we overlook it.
http://www.worldsoccerboard.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=9403&perpage=15&pagenumber=5
valdanito_10
04-28-2002, 05:18 AM
sad i though u liked them!
That doesn't even amount to half of the crap you write..Hey bud, cut the sucking up act... While I was screaming a few months ago for the racial discrimination to stop, you were against it, making comments such as a demand for "Free Speech", or claiming I was turning this place into "xtratime".. Well you got your "Free Speech" bud, now quit this sucking up act for super mod position, because quite frankly, there ain't no chance in hell you are getting it anyways..
Pederus
valdanito_10
04-28-2002, 05:28 AM
behave kids!
Thanks for pointing it out.
Omar
valdanito_10
04-28-2002, 06:17 AM
ur eating this story OMAR???
Yacoob
04-28-2002, 08:38 PM
Too bad, I came too late for this argument. :rolleyes:
Severus
04-28-2002, 11:47 PM
Originally posted by PFC
That doesn't even amount to half of the crap you write..Hey bud, cut the sucking up act... While I was screaming a few months ago for the racial discrimination to stop, you were against it, making comments such as a demand for "Free Speech", or claiming I was turning this place into "xtratime".. Well you got your "Free Speech" bud, now quit this sucking up act for super mod position, because quite frankly, there ain't no chance in hell you are getting it anyways..
Pederus
listen, i don't know what planet you've been on, but i've never opposed eliminating racism from these boards so stop making up rubbish to further your arguement.
furthermore, there is quite a difference between abusive dialogue and racial dialogue. when you can come up with the distinction, get back to me. don't hate me just because i believe not all albanians are terrorists.
What a jackass! :D :redeyes: :mad:
This is like thief crying "Help I've been robbed!" :eek:
or....
like Maradona pleaing his case the the referee demanding that an opposing teams player be sent off for a handball. :rolling:
Severus
04-29-2002, 04:10 PM
show me evidence of me being a racist rather than just blabbing it out with no substance.
ItalianBoy
04-29-2002, 06:40 PM
Sev had no argument like always and so instead of letting the asskicking parade against him continue, he was so girliesh to post a whole thread about it! O Sev, SHUT UP!
:rolleyes:
PLS! You didnt get shit! PFC posted too, we dont think that all of them are terrorist! I say you read the stuff!
:rolleyes:
And Omar, you say you are disgusted by us? What about 001 saying that ( this is funny) he dosent say that the 9/11 attacks are good, but they had reasons!
PLS!
Yacoob
04-29-2002, 07:26 PM
The didn't have any reasons for that. They killed themselves and the others for the fun of it. :rolleyes:
Severus
04-29-2002, 10:27 PM
because 001 wasn't ranting on about nuking muslims and how they are inferior.
he is just stating a point which was well made. there's nothing racist about that, meathead.
that was an observation.
ItalianBoy
04-30-2002, 03:44 AM
And who ever said that they are inferior?:confused:
So since I said nuke them for a joke is bad,
but 001 that says that those Atta losers had a point is good?
Are you out of your mind?:confused:
Severus
04-30-2002, 04:03 AM
no you are and because you've spent too much time with fascists, you've been brainwashed to think like them rather than having the ability to formulate your own thoughts and ideas on your own.
as for 001's comments, there was nothing wrong or immoral with them being as he brought up a good point. he wasn't justifying their actions, but if one spends some time to actually try and get into their minds and see where this deep resentment stems from, you'd understand atleast where they're coming from. again, not like the tragedies were justifyable because bin laden and all those islamic fundamentalist scumbags --- the palestinians to a lesser degree --- are a bunch of barbaric animals that contradict islam and possess a 800 BC mindset. but the US doesn't help their own cause much when they write israel $3 billion cheques annually, and set double standards all over the world just to suit their interests.
ItalianBoy
04-30-2002, 04:10 AM
The first part of your post shows how much you know about me and how stupid you are.
I only said that I dont like Illegal immigrants and now I am with fascist and I am brainwashed.
MA CHE CAZZO DICI!
Ti consiglio di smetterla, nel quanto non sai assolutamente che stai dicendo, e siccome e' completamente il contrario, mi offende molto. Se vuoi discutere di queste cose a me va bene, pero' fallo con diplomazia.
About what 001 is saying, I do understand that FOR THEM they thought they had a resons, I mean if Allah tells you, hey whats else!
And also, if the USA sign all those money, is that a good reson to bomb or kill someone?
I personally dont think so.
valdanito_10
04-30-2002, 04:31 AM
hey guys trake it easy! we in this forum are suppose to get along specially u experienced guys u should be giving an example and both learn to express ypur different views on a differnet way!
just say sorry o each other! whos 1st?:mad:
ItalianBoy
04-30-2002, 05:32 AM
See Juan I already did say that if I offended anyone I was sorry.
But All that Sev and Ivan could come up with was stupid offendings.
Severus
04-30-2002, 02:49 PM
firstly, when you're in support of la pen, its not illegal immigrants that bothers you its IMMIGRANTS IN GENERAL ! kinda of what fascist italia resembled back in that c0<k5u<kers shameful days as leader of italia.
secondly, how do you expect me to maintain a diplomatic dialogue with you when you're a racist and you speak so casually about bombing muslims ? i am sorry, but when i am in the presence of racists i don't believe in remaining politically correct. and i couldn't care less if i offended you or not. just think of the good muslims you may have offended when they read the garbage you submitted. let alone the civilized people like myself who have to put up with this nonsense on a daily basis even now in the 21st century. that nonsense didn't belong mid-20th century, and it certainly doesn't belong here now.
thirdly, 9-11 had nothing to do with what allah supposedly told them because that's another bullsh1t story in itself. allah didn't tell them to kill 3000 people because islam in essence, is a very peaceful religion which encourages equality and freedom. those kunts were just hearing things because they belong in a looney bin. nevertheless, when they notice their muslim brothers/sisters in palestina suffering because of israeli oppression utilizing american weaponry knowing full well that if it wasn't for the US, israel would've been blown into smithereens decades ago, that's mostly where this aggression and deep hatred stems from. all i am saying is that if the US is still puzzled as to why millions of muslims despise them, they need to look no further than israel for their answer concerning why.
Ronnie Raygun
04-30-2002, 06:00 PM
Allah didn't tell anyone to do anything because Allah is a fake.
Yacoob
04-30-2002, 07:30 PM
Create a living creature and then say that Allah is fake...
ItalianBoy
04-30-2002, 10:01 PM
Show me Allah and than tell me he is real.
Sev, see, my whole point is that I was against illegal immigrants! And La Pen is the only one that said something about it.
I told you I am not for him nor for that pagliaccio of Chirac!
So I dont see why are you calling me racist!
Second of all, Islam a peacefuil religion/
PLS!
So peaceful that they are the one still bombing! and how about how they live an how they treat women etc!
I really cant stand that!
To me religion is poison! And guess what? I think that Islam is the worst one!
Its oppresive and dosent give any freedom!
:mad: :rolleyes:
Severus
04-30-2002, 10:14 PM
italianboy, what makes you think il signore e vero ?????
ItalianBoy
04-30-2002, 10:34 PM
Il Signore non e' vero!
Io non credo a dio.
I think you should understand my post as in I say to show me god and than tell me he is real, until now no one did!
valdanito_10
04-30-2002, 10:54 PM
just forget about it! and i insist that when u guys argue do it in a ftiendly way because this is what it all is about actually given ur differnet views just in a friendly way!
ItalianBoy
04-30-2002, 10:57 PM
I agree, thats all I am asking for.
valdanito_10
04-30-2002, 11:16 PM
Severus were all waiting
ItalianBoy
05-01-2002, 02:00 AM
If you are waiting for Severus to be civilized you can wait for ever!
valdanito_10
05-01-2002, 03:40 AM
Originally posted by ItalianBoy
If you are waiting for Severus to be civilized you can wait for ever!
hahaha im confident he will surprise u! right Severus?
ItalianBoy
05-01-2002, 06:47 AM
We'll see.
Yacoob
05-01-2002, 02:55 PM
ItalianBoy, what's the difference between you and a computer or a chair? What make you alive? It's the soul. Can you see it? Nope. Does this mean that it doesn't exist? Have you ever seen a gerome? A bacteria? Why do you believe that they exist?
About the Islam point, why do you mean by "oppressive"? Do you know enough about Islam to make a judgement on it?
We oppress women? We don't let them work in nightclubs and/or show their body in mags, is this too oppressive?
We are still bombing? Please! What about Israel? USA? India?
You go on about how vicious we are, but have you ever thought about what would you do if Israel were occupying your country? What would you do if Americans were giving Israel the weapons to kill your friends, your family, and to torture you? You said that we are paying the terrorists money, right? What does this money mean anyway? It's either going to Arafat for whatever purposes he use it for (rumours of nightclubs and such are disgusting), or they go to the homeless to build them homes, only after a few years for them to lose these homes again after another attack by Israeli's.
I've tried to be unbiased about all of this, I tried to not be emotional, however, I always get the impression that people from other countries think that once the Arabs stop attacking Israel it'll be peace here. It's not like that, history shown that once these Israeli's gather their powers, the real terror will start, they don't hate us as much as they hate you. If all this was done for us, I can't imagine what they will do to the non-Muslims, what will they do to Christians?
Do you people fear being called anit-semest (spelling)? Do you have some sympathies for them with the crap that was the holocaust?
Ronnie Raygun
05-01-2002, 04:08 PM
Arafat is a known terrorist and a liar. And if you support him, so are you. Israel is keeping your land until you can come to a peace agreement. At the end of any war when land is gained by the victors, a peace agreement must be met before the land is given back to the opposition. Pick up a history book.....actually don't because your books tell you that Jews are spawned from the devil and that your women can't go to school and have to cover up from head to toe....and we all know why that is. You don't have enough confidence in yourself and your afraid that some other man is going to take her away.....or maybe it's because.....well, I won't go there.
Anyway, shouldn't you be slaughtering a sheep or something?
ItalianBoy
05-01-2002, 06:28 PM
Yacoob, first of all I see you are ignorant cuz you can see bacteria etc.
So pls.
And also, yes it is oppressive!
How about your firends that explode themself huh?
SHUT UP! get real!
thats something you religious people shoudl do! :rolleyes:
yuou are pathetic with your comments!
Severus
05-01-2002, 06:58 PM
Originally posted by ItalianBoy
Il Signore non e' vero!
Io non credo a dio.
I think you should understand my post as in I say to show me god and than tell me he is real, until now no one did!
that's fair enough then. if you don't believe in him i am not going to insult you. i just thought you were implying you're faith was true and that the muslim faith for example was false.
my bad.
Severus
05-01-2002, 07:12 PM
Originally posted by Yacoob
About the Islam point, why do you mean by "oppressive"? Do you know enough about Islam to make a judgement on it?
We oppress women? We don't let them work in nightclubs and/or show their body in mags, is this too oppressive?
look, don't get me wrong because as a canadian, we generally tend to look at both sides of the war rather than taking the narrowminded american view which is to look one way and ignore factual evidence which does not corelate with their point of view.
having said that, i agree with almost everything you wrote except for the oppression of women point. prohibiting them from working in niteclubs or showing some flesh in magazines, or wearing those veils is oppressive and its not a matter of how oppressive it is. the point is that it is oppressive and contradictive to the principle values which make up the great faith of islam which is equality for all men and women. now, i am not an islamic scholar, but is that not what you're god encourages ?
ItalianBoy
05-01-2002, 08:32 PM
See you said it yourself. You can only offend. I disagree with Yaccob in almost everythign, but thats my view of things.
I personally think that all religions are poison, and thats something fascist usually dont do Sev.
And I agree on the women point with you Sev. women have the freedom of doing what they want.
VIVA LA FICA!
LOL:D
Severus
05-02-2002, 12:00 AM
communists don't believe in religions either.
what's your point ? so you're not a fascist now because you claim to be an athiest ? i think you're pieno di merda anyway. you probably open your christmas gifts every morning of the 25th of december like all christian children do. attend mass after then celebrate the death and resurrection of one jesus christ 3 or 4 months later. i don't believe a word you say being as you've been caught lying on numerous occasions.
oh, and you're still a feces smelling fascista in my eyes. go hop on the nazi bandwagon which seems to be gaining some momentum in europe again. fascists are all cowardice bandwagoners anyway.
ItalianBoy
05-02-2002, 02:41 AM
You are the on full of shit! You are the one acting like a fascit! Just look at you! all you can do is scream and offend at me with useless crap when I apologized if I offended anyone!
You a a fukking loser!
I celebrate Xmas and Pasqua when I am in Italy to stay ith my family and parenti, but here inthe USA since Igot no one I dont do as much!
Plus, that was my whole if you a bit faster! Fascisti motto is
Patria Dio and Famiglia! While Ido not belive in God, thats a big thing for a fascist you loser!
and plus, stop beaing so pathetic and post this useless crap like
" you have been found ling etc" its pretty pathetic!
In my eyes you are a poor loser that all he can do in this board is scream out all his hate for people since outside of that chair and smelly room you are a fantozzi for sure with no balls!
And plus it shows how much you know about politics, Nazis back in EUROpe!
HAHAHA pathetic indeed!
:rolleyes:
Severus
05-02-2002, 06:26 AM
i am going to make this short and sweet because i can't afford to waste much time on a cretino such as yourself who runs around in circles in an arguement ignoring key remarks to try and squirm his way out of situations which he knows he's trapped in. obtain some wisdom then come back because arguing with folks of your nature is needless and futile.
I celebrate Xmas and Pasqua when I am in Italy to stay ith my family and parenti, but here inthe USA since Igot no one I dont do as much!
Plus, that was my whole if you a bit faster! Fascisti motto is
Patria Dio and Famiglia! While Ido not belive in God, thats a big thing for a fascist you loser!
they key phrase is "here in the USA since i got no one i don't do AS MUCH" as compared to when you're in italy with your family. meaning, you celebrate easter to some capacity thereby making yourself a believer of the resurrection or in a faith of some sort in general. there is the religious element even though not every fascist was a roman catholic. there was some fascisti that i guess maintained the communist atheism when converting therefore making them kunt lickers of their dictator --- which in this case would've been benito mussolini.
the rest i will ignore because it was senseless and lacked any direction. looked more like you were trying to cover your cullo more than anything.
ItalianBoy
05-02-2002, 06:44 AM
Your reply just proves me right. You are a moron. Only a fascist answers like you did.
I dont have to cover my culo. I am not the one acting like a fascista here. You are, with useless posts. You sound like a 3 year old. Anyone with brains can see that. Why do you think no one here is answering? You are so stupid and ingnorant, no matter what you think of me, or what you think you know about me, which is all crap cosidering what you just told me, you should always bring respect, and if you really cosider me a cretino, wow you so nice, I say that you calm down and stop yelling your bullshit, you can only post this stupid post like FASCISTA and all the crap that follows later cuz you have no argument. I say you BUY a clue, and than come back. I explained you exactly my positions, which were obvious to everyone with some sale in zucca, but you. I never said I hate niggers or anything of that sort cuz I do not! I said a mere "lets nuke them" with a smily face, you really think I would do that? I mean are you scemo or just acting it!?
You should calm down and get real, until now you are acting like a cazzo pieno di piscio. I hope I will see some reply with some smarts.
:rolleyes:
Plus, if I celebrate Xmas etc, it dosent mean I have to be a believer. In Italy, since you seem to be more canadian than ITA, Xmas and pasqua is celebrated by everyone even if you are not religious. Actually, the religious part is kinda forgotten, most of the times.
just a little update form the Italia of the 1890's that you thought you knew.
;) :silly:
Severus
05-02-2002, 07:48 AM
just a little update form the Italia of the 1890's that you thought you knew
i actually was referring to more modern times like uh .... now. but thanks for the 112 year old update. can you get something a little more recent though next time ?
I never said I hate niggers or anything of that sort cuz I do not!
???????????????????????
are you for real or what ? they are known by non-racists as negroes. buddy, everytime you post you crucify yourself even more. now you said the derogatory N word used by slave-traders, KKK supporters and flat out racists ! how can one take such an imbecile seriously such as yourself ? you know what, don't even answer because i am sick and tired of arguing with some racist immigrant who opposes immigration and lacks any direction when debating. you're also stupid which is another reason i don't wish to spend any more of my precious time with you.
ItalianBoy
05-02-2002, 07:56 AM
Actually the dumb one here is you, wheather you forget that you already said 29861 times that you wont post back, or I dont know how good is your brain, also, I said niggers cuz thats how the REAL racist call them here in the USA, ( since I am not) maybe in Canada is all aboot how you call people to say somethign as stupid as you just did? or to be considered something? you are very twisted.
And now I have to be a racist cuz I said niggers? have you got anything of what I posted? Are you demented? I tend think so.
Your post is a total disgrace, you just cant stop posting stuff like
"everytime you post you crucify yourself even more".
I mean are you 12?
And also, about ITaly, never mind, you are too dumb to get somethign so simple as that YOUR latest vision of italy was 1890's, not mine. As can be read on your previous posts.
But I mean, you said you wont post back so......
:rolleyes: ;)
FANTA
05-03-2002, 03:20 AM
itaboy, i can't understand how you can say n*****, and not call yourself a racist. it's such a disgusting word i can't even type it let alone say it.
itaboy:
I said niggers cuz thats how the REAL racist call them here in the USA,
yes exactly, and you are using the word here, making you a ..... ?
i am all for fighting and arguments, but this to me has crossed the line. something must be done about this. :red-card:
ItalianBoy
05-03-2002, 04:21 AM
You guys are pretty twisted! I said that I NEVER called anyone a n***** cuz I am not a racist! If I write the word Interista, do I have to be an Interista?
You guys are wheather stupid or acting like it a lot. What, you want to ban me FANTA? why? Cuz I said "that" word? Have you actually read what I MEANT!
I dont think so. Cuz if you would have, you have understood, thing that clearly you didnt do. Plus, I am not black ( is this racist too? Should I say African American to be ridicously politically correct?) Still blacks call themself that, and they do call whites some of the worst things, personal experience as in I heard it, some people in HS. Also, I do have black friends, so you see! You are totally off.
FANTA
05-03-2002, 06:04 AM
no, not ban.
n***** is a racist word and should never be said. but you are just going around saying it everywhere like it means nothing.
how can you be so comfortable with it ?
ItalianBoy
05-03-2002, 08:32 AM
What? this are the people that get you in trouble for no reason. I have been goign around and did what? I only posted it here ONCE! Cuz Sev made me! Pls stop saying untrue stuff. I know its a bad word. Just like White Trash would be.
Everywhere?
Man, you guys are very weird!
Yacoob,
Your points are well thought out, but don't waste your time trying to explain them to these kids and narrowminded jackasses!
ItalianBoy
05-04-2002, 05:04 AM
Originally posted by Ivan
Yacoob,
Your points are well thought out, but don't waste your time trying to explain them to these kids and narrowminded jackasses!
That was plain stupid. I do get the points of Yacoob and I think I answered pretty nicely and clear. I dont think this shoudl go only one way. If you know what I mean.
:rolleyes:
Severus
05-04-2002, 11:17 PM
i'd ban the racist pig's IP address for a month fanta.
ItalianBoy
05-05-2002, 03:31 AM
BOOM you lost! you posted back! :rolleyes:
I would ban idiots like you that accuse people of beaing thigns they are not, and have to lie in theyr post so that they have somethign to say. Get Real Sev. No one hates you here or anyone, at leats I dont, but you have to act the same way.
:rolleyes: a lot of discussion
What i think about 9/11 attacks.....I dont like it.....i can only imagine the innocent ppl and kids that died on those planes, the eldery....ppl who had nothing to do with America's involvement in Islamic countries....beside paying tax to fund the military.
But what i am trying to reason with you guys is that you cant say that the guys that did it were just having fun...like a tennage yob...who decides to hijack a car for fun.
No what i am saying is that these guys had purpose, and they felt that the means justified the ends.....i disagree with the means.
A lot of the martydom missionaries in Israel, in the past have tried to avoid civillian injuries....some groups like Islamic Jihad(i think) were basing their missions on resilliance against the millitary, and were adamant to not hurt civillians
But times have become deperate, and anyone occupying your land without rent...is seen as a tyrant, a bully, and thus should be removed from the land.
Some of you take religous texts by face value.
It is also said that you are to exclude those who have exclude you from your homes.........Palestine anyone
Cos Oppresion is worse then death
If i came to your house, and took over,
i chucked your sister out of her bedroom,
chucked your brother from the bedroom,
kicked your parents out.......and only gave you and your family the toilet to live in, whilst i lived in the comfort of the whole house.....YOUR HOUSE
how do you feel........
happy
Now your CNN, and your BBC may not show all the hidden agendas of the governments....and give you propaganda shit to describe all muslims as being terrorists, Bush with his capture OBL dead or alive, no trial, no proof....crap. A muslim did this, a muslim did that shit...it just pisses me right off.
and as a result of this i can understand some of your views......but what i ask is that you look at the world situation.....and look for the root of the problem, verify the genuity of what your media tells you, and what it wants you to do, are your leaders the pure saints they make out to be......and if not why do you follow them blindly.....election after election?
ItalianBoy
05-10-2002, 06:51 PM
Stop being so oppressive and get a life and than come back to re vomit yuour bullshit, I mean do you think we are stupid?
Man get real!
I think we should not talk abotu religion and any religion thread should be closed. GOd was never seen so its stupid to argue about and call each other things we dont even think. In a board especially its easy to be misunderstood.
I say we closee all the crap thread.
Look pal, all i did was to expose the truth.
(I use the word expose, because much of the actions in societ is covered, edited and presented by the media in such a way)
ItalianBoy
05-20-2002, 08:49 PM
Truth? what truth? the truth that makes you right!? Pls! :rolleyes:
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