official olympic hockey thread

[Severus]

my thread so i'll start ...

whoever stands in CANADA'S way will be pumelled to the ground in the most gruelling fashion. the yanks, czechs, russians, swedish meatballs ... you've got no chance. we're too deep in talent and our goaltending is the best in the world. furthermore, gretzky has promised an offensive-minded team not one that tries to play like the europeans. therefore we're gonna be runnin' and gunnin' all the way to the gold medal podium no doubt BABY !!!!!!!

try and stop us, you'll only be embarassed.

GO CANADA GO !!!

[NeraAzzurri32]

Yea Canada is gonna be a tough team to beat this Year...I can't wait to see Cujo and Lindros.............

In other news......Canada's Junior team is going to the quarter finals to go head to head with Sweden.....tough game for canada after a disapointing 4-1 defeat to the Fins

[Zek]

bla bla bla bla bla bla
GO EUROPE!!!! specially Sweden

[Severus]

this time its in north america so your corrupt refs will not be so much of a factor. all your european refs are cheats. the IIHF is run by europeans so whenever an IIHF sanctioned tournament is held in europe, they reserve the right to state the name and nationality of the official. that's bizarre.

[DRUMan]

FORZA SWEDEN!!!

[NeraAzzurri32]

,.........

Canada's Junior Hockey team goes on to the semi's to face switzerland after thrashing the swed's 5-2...............

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus
this time its in north america so your corrupt refs will not be so much of a factor. all your european refs are cheats. the IIHF is run by europeans so whenever an IIHF sanctioned tournament is held in europe, they reserve the right to state the name and nationality of the official. that's bizarre.

Oh, come on, you are not serious, are you? On 1998 Olimpics, when mostly referees from USA and Canada were involved, how come, you couldn't make it to the finals?? I find your argument about european referees as cheaters pathetic. And how come you cheer Canada and not your beloved Italy?

[Severus]

because i live here. if italia were involved i'd cheer them on too ... but they're not. i guess i got the best of both worlds now ;)

nonetheless, regarding european officiating, its BRUTAL ! lots of them don't even follow the rules. the IIHF rules are exactly the same as the ones in the NHL or in north american junior hockey leagues (with the exception of the icing and 2 line offside). yet whenever a european official officiates one of the north americans games, we get penalized every 2 minutes because apparantly ... we're being too aggressive. oh really, i suppose they want us to play like ballerinas now ? similar to how they play in europe or something ? they might, but when they're officiating internationally, they should follow the rules of the IIHF like that american did today when we thrashed the swedes -- not how the game is officiated in your european leagues where all 10 players on the ice are figure skating ...

[OAnimal]

Oh come on, some of your players are really brutal. Isn't a known fact that there are players in NHL teams, which duty is only to initiate fights or "protect" the team starts??

I don't want hockey to be figure skating, as you say, but still technical play should be more important than physical aggresiveness. That's why I don't like north american teams. But european players that play in NHL are used to this kind of play already and probably that's why it was Czech Republic vs Russia the finals at 1998 Olympics, no matter that your referees were involved. And so should be it this year, with the exception of Russia victory. ;)

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus
because i live here. if italia were involved i'd cheer them on too ... but they're not. i guess i got the best of both worlds now ;)

I don't agree. Best from both worlds are Brazil and Russia. That's what I cheer for ;) (of course, only after Slovenia).

[Zek]

Originally posted by OAnimal
Oh come on, some of your players are really brutal. Isn't a known fact that there are players in NHL teams, which duty is only to initiate fights or "protect" the team starts??

I don't want hockey to be figure skating, as you say, but still technical play should be more important than physical aggresiveness. That's why I don't like north american teams. But european players that play in NHL are used to this kind of play already and probably that's why it was Czech Republic vs Russia the finals at 1998 Olympics, no matter that your referees were involved. And so should be it this year, with the exception of Russia victory. ;)

Agreee with most only prefer Sweden to beat Russia in finals

[Severus]

Oh come on, some of your players are really brutal. Isn't a known fact that there are players in NHL teams, which duty is only to initiate fights or "protect" the team starts??

indeed it is. and that's why all the stars of the league skate freely and are rarely touched. i'll put it to you this way, without those enforcers all those european ballerinas come home in body bags or crippled. you should be thankful rather than mocking them.

I don't want hockey to be figure skating as you say, but still technical play should be more important than physical aggresiveness. That's why I don't like north american teams.

hockey is figure skating in europe. however you need to take a look at TEAM CANADA's squad to prevent yourself from contradicting yourself any further. you don't like north american teams (ie) canada because you think we emphasize aggression however you're ignoring the fact we are the most skilled team going to the olympics. what's that all about ? are you aware a handful of our forwards are --- mario lemieux, joe sakic, paul kariya, eric lindros, theo fluery and simon gagne ? and remember i just named a couple.

what about our defence ? blake, pronger, niedermayer, jovanovski etc etc ... which country, i repeat COUNTRY can boast to having atleast 4 defencemen of their quality nevermind the whole continent which is all you can compare to canada.

goaltending ... do i have to go there ? cujo, brodeur ... you're ignorant.

[Severus]

Originally posted by OAnimal


I don't agree. Best from both worlds are Brazil and Russia. That's what I cheer for ;) (of course, only after Slovenia).

you don't live in either country, actually you pretty much have no affiliation to either as well so no i don't think you do have the best of both worlds. a brasilian-russian would ... i don't see where slovenia fits into this :D

[DRUMan]

BRAZIL RULES!!!

[Severus]

rules what beach futbol ? yeah who cares.

[MarieL]

Well Finland has no chance this year! The team is the worst ever!!!

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus


you don't live in either country, actually you pretty much have no affiliation to either as well so no i don't think you do have the best of both worlds. a brasilian-russian would ... i don't see where slovenia fits into this :D

Actually, this is my free choice, so I don't know why you have a problem with that.

[OAnimal]

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[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus
hockey is figure skating in europe. however you need to take a look at TEAM CANADA's squad to prevent yourself from contradicting yourself any further. you don't like north american teams (ie) canada because you think we emphasize aggression however you're ignoring the fact we are the most skilled team going to the olympics. what's that all about ? are you aware a handful of our forwards are --- mario lemieux, joe sakic, paul kariya, eric lindros, theo fluery and simon gagne ? and remember i just named a couple.

what about our defence ? blake, pronger, niedermayer, jovanovski etc etc ... which country, i repeat COUNTRY can boast to having atleast 4 defencemen of their quality nevermind the whole continent which is all you can compare to canada.

goaltending ... do i have to go there ? cujo, brodeur ... you're ignorant.

I never said you are not skilled. I know you are, but you are also too agressive and that's why you get so many penalties. Even on 98 Olimpics, when north american referees were involved, you weren't able to get into finals... I really enjoyed Russia U-20 team beat your Canada in the finals. :evil:
... which means european ballerinas are better than Canadian ice hockey players - what a shame, isn't it? :D:D

Canada has excellent players, but also Bure, Fedorov, Jasin, etc. doesn't look bad at all. As always in team sports, the team spirit and friendship will count a lot. And having the best players will not help, if you can't organize them into a team.

And don't call me ignorant, unless you want your yellow card back...

[NeraAzzurri32]

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Canada completetly dominated the game.....iv'e never seen a team score a goal on the 23 second mark in the 1st period......Canada was rubbed out........ott got a penalty for delay of game?.......that's ridiculous....and on the powerplay in the 3rd period ..russian goaltender knocked the net off ......what a cheat...Leclaire was lousy but was the best Overall in the tournament.........Canada still awaits for the 2002 Canadian olympic team to win th gold in Salt Lake City..

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by NeraAzzurri32
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Canada completetly dominated the game.....iv'e never seen a team score a goal on the 23 second mark in the 1st period......Canada was rubbed out........ott got a penalty for delay of game?.......that's ridiculous....and on the powerplay in the 3rd period ..russian goaltender knocked the net off ......what a cheat...Leclaire was lousy but was the best Overall in the tournament.........Canada still awaits for the 2002 Canadian olympic team to win th gold in Salt Lake City..

Yeah well, cry on...
Poor little canadian babies were robbed once again, what a monster this referee has to be...

[Severus]

Originally posted by OAnimal


Actually, this is my free choice, so I don't know why you have a problem with that.

i don't. i was just correcting you. you can cheer for whoever you want, but in the end, you're slovanian ... not russian or brasilian.

[Severus]

I never said you are not skilled. I know you are, but you are also too agressive and that's why you get so many penalties. Even on 98 Olimpics, when north american referees were involved, you weren't able to get into finals... I really enjoyed Russia U-20 team beat your Canada in the finals. :evil:
... which means european ballerinas are better than Canadian ice hockey players - what a shame, isn't it? :D:D

no it means the russians were. why you compare a continent to one country is beyond my realm of comprehension. are we that good ???

And don't call me ignorant, unless you want your yellow card back...

freedom of speech buddy. are you guys into that in the eastern bloc ? however, i do miss my yellow card. it gave me character like a bruise does to a face ;)

[Severus]

Originally posted by NeraAzzurri32
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Canada completetly dominated the game.....iv'e never seen a team score a goal on the 23 second mark in the 1st period......Canada was rubbed out........ott got a penalty for delay of game?.......that's ridiculous....and on the powerplay in the 3rd period ..russian goaltender knocked the net off ......what a cheat...Leclaire was lousy but was the best Overall in the tournament.........Canada still awaits for the 2002 Canadian olympic team to win th gold in Salt Lake City..

leclare was lousy ! i don't care how stellar his save percentage and GAA was throughout the tourney. he stunk it up in the main show when all the chips were down and because of that --- he SUCKS !!! how many more times are we gonna lose a tournament because of some french frog between the pipes ?

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus


i don't. i was just correcting you. you can cheer for whoever you want, but in the end, you're slovanian ... not russian or brasilian.

Hmm, I thought I made it clear, that first I cheer Slovenia, and only then Brazil (football) and Russia (ice hockey), can't help if you can't understand that...

and even if my preferences weren't as they are, I certainly have no need to make apologies to anyone.

[DRUMan]

BRAZIL RULES!!!

[Severus]

i do understand that. but what i am trying to say is that realistically, you don't have the best of both worlds because you have no connection or affiliation with the 2 nations personally. nevermind the jibber jabber, you're the one who fails to realize this not me.

goLD canada goLD !!!!!

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus
but what i am trying to say is that realistically, you don't have the best of both worlds because you have no connection or affiliation with the 2 nations personally.
So what?? I was just saying that IMO, who I cheer for (Brazil and Russia) next to my own country Slovenia, are better than yours (Italy and Canada), that's all...

[Severus]

actually russia is not better than canada in hockey and right now, there is no way the (struggling to make the WC) brazilians are better than the SOUND all-round azzurri.

[OAnimal]

OK, this is much better post from you. You have all rights to think it that way, we'll discuss about it when Olympics and World Cup is over... :evil:

[Severus]

well part 1 will be discussed again rather shortly don't you worry about it.

but in all fairness though, i think the team to watch out for is the czech rep. they're stacked every where including goaltending. yesterday i went to watch the leafs-flyers matchup and cechmanek put on a show. and he's their #2 behind hasek :confused: they're still not as blessed with talent and a whole lot of it like us but i think they're our only obstacle to winning the gold. the czechs are gonna be tough to beat.

[Super Croat]

Joe Sakic will win the gold for Canada this year. Mark my words....

[FANTA]

why wasen't daze selected for canada ? 26 goals, 23 assists and +17 this season.

?????

PS. hawks baby :thumbsup:

[Severus]

because he's a useless piece of lumber if you ask me. you need speed especially when you're competing against the europeans on the larger ice surface and daze frankly, isn't fast at all.

super croat --- lemieux, sakic, kariya, yzerman, lindros take your pick. i just hope its someone wearing the big maple leaf crest on their jersey.

[Super Croat]

Imagine Lemieux, Sakic, Kariya, Yzerman and Blake on the power play... Unstoppable. I could see Canada's PP being successful at over 70%.

As for Lindros...I could care less if he's on the team or not. He's good but does not belong in the same category as Lemieux, Sakic, Kariya, Yzerman and Blake.

[Severus]

ha, take your pick. any PP unit you throw onto the ice is gonna click. however, taking yours into consideration, i'd take kariya out and put on the big E. nothing against kariya, you just need someone to stand in front of the net to deflect the howitzers stevie Y and blake are gonna be sendin'.

but yeah, we're gonna rock !

GOLD canada GOLD !!!!!!!

[FANTA]

DAZE the all-star MVP :thumbsup:

[Severus]

another absurdity. markus naslund outplayed him right across the board and even finished with more points if i am not mistaken. what's that all about ? north american bias perhaps .....

whatever. i just thank god daze isn't an olympian.

[DRUMan]

I know that Canada is the favourite,that's why I will support to a european team.And about Italy vs Brazil in soccer,you will suck one more time!
DÁ-LHE SOU BRASILEIRO,COM MUITO ORGULHO,COM MUITO AMOR!!!

[OAnimal]

DRUMan, all I can say is :thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup: !

[Severus]

DÁ-LHE SOU BRASILEIRO,COM MUITO ORGULHO,COM MUITO AMOR!!!

you're gonna need all that pride and love to get through the heartache of losing again ... this time not even in the finals. most likely after the QF when you'll lose to france again ... BRASILEIRO !

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus

you're gonna need all that pride and love to get through the heartache of losing again ... this time not even in the finals. most likely after the QF when you'll lose to france again ...
This is still much better than losing to Ecuador, Mexico and/or Croatia. :D

[DRUMan]

Italy ever lose to Brazil.
Italiano maledito!

[Severus]

Originally posted by OAnimal

This is still much better than losing to Ecuador, Mexico and/or Croatia. :D

but you see my friend, we're not going to lose to these teams, why ? because we're one of the top 3 teams in the world. you will lose to france though because they are clearly a better side. i don't mean to sound naive because i'm aware one should never count out brasil no matter what. but france are stacked in every position.

[FANTA]

canada is getting absolutely pummeled at the moment.

5-1 to sweden ...

[PFC]

Canada have been just plain awful.. Time to take out that overrated no good piece of trash Joseph and put in an actual goalie in Brodeur..

[DRUMan]

Hey Severus,and you will not pass to the 16 finals man!
MALEDITO!!!

[Andrija PFC]

Yep, Canada just stinks doesn't it?

Canada - Sweden 2:5 (1:1, 0:4, 1:0)

I was thinking Canada had no way to get a medal. Now I might be right. They were whipped! And it's not just Cujo's fault. The entire team, well, just sucked.

Other scores:
Russia - Belarus 6:4 (3:1, 1:2, 2:1)
Czech Rep. - Germany 8:2 (3:0, 3:1, 2:1)
Finland - USA 0:3 :eek: (0:0, 0:3 - 3rd period still to begin) - it must be the home advantage...

[heidi]

As shameful as it is,but I have to tell you guys that Finland lost 6-0 to USA..

[Andrija PFC]

ouch :sleepy: :eek: :confused:

[Zek]

Originally posted by Severus
this time its in north america so your corrupt refs will not be so much of a factor. all your european refs are cheats. the IIHF is run by europeans so whenever an IIHF sanctioned tournament is held in europe, they reserve the right to state the name and nationality of the official. that's bizarre.


ulalalalalalalalalla uhahahahahha I can't stand this the stadium was almost screaming Canada Canada and then suddenly old good viking spirit shut them up! Bravo SWEDEN! I just woke up after standing up to 5 o'clock on the streets yesterday hehehehe
Sweden did this! and without Forsberg.
Yeah I truly believe that referees put a smaller gate for Salo and that's why "GREAT" loser stars of Canadian hockey could not score they only hit the bar couple of times.
Sundin, Neslund, Salo and the Company outplayed or crashed or beat or .... the bunch of all time great? canadian overvalued stars
beginning with Lemiex, Lindros, Sakic, Caria and the rest.
It's pity that all teams qualify to quaterfinals.
What should I say we have a saying "A bad dancer is always disturbed by his balls" so either you're a bad dancer or you dance and don't talk about how big your balls are and that how disturbing it's to play with those huge balls.
Canadians are simply not that good, their style reminded me English soccer team, which thinks they're great but they old fashioned and tactically stupid. Yeah I know swedes were cowards they did defend a lot and then suddenly striked 4 goals in 10 minutes and then stopped the pace heading to the end of the game :D of course they did not want to spend much energy on Canadians since they made the game already in 2 period in just ten minutes. uhahahahahahahaha :p :p :p :evil:
:smoking: :smoking: :smoking:

[DRUMan]

FORZA SWEDEN!!!Hahaha,where is Canada???That marvelous team?Sweden rule Canada!Sundin rules!!!

[Andrija PFC]

Finland's revenge...

Fin - Belarus 8:1 :eek:


that fixed their goal difference alright...

[PFC]

USA-Russia 2-2

What an outstanding game.. End to end action that was full of excitment.. The Russians with their usual beatiful technical play (do they ever dump the puck ? :D) and the Americans fighting, giving it everything they got, scrapping for the draw..Both teams looked really good.. Canada must bounce back quickly because with the way the States and the Ruskies are playing it will take something special to knock them out..:)

[Andrija PFC]

Canada won't even get to the next round:yawn:

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Zek
Canadians are simply not that good, their style reminded me English soccer team, which thinks they're great but they old fashioned and tactically stupid. Yeah I know swedes were cowards they did defend a lot and then suddenly striked 4 goals in 10 minutes and then stopped the pace heading to the end of the game :D of course they did not want to spend much energy on Canadians since they made the game already in 2 period in just ten minutes. uhahahahahahahaha :p :p :p :evil:
:smoking: :smoking: :smoking:
That is exactly what I was thinking about when I watched the game. Canada really reminds me of the old "kick and rush" English football style. They shoot whenever they have the smallest chance, usually ignoring the better positioned playmate and Sweden did just the opposite. OK, Canada may have the most famous names in the rooster, but names does not necessarily make a great team. I wonder how our friend Severus is doing these days... :D:D:D:evil:

Anyway, karma for you, Zek. :thumbsup:

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by PFC
USA-Russia 2-2

What an outstanding game.. End to end action that was full of excitment.. The Russians with their usual beatiful technical play (do they ever dump the puck ? :D) and the Americans fighting, giving it everything they got, scrapping for the draw..Both teams looked really good.. Canada must bounce back quickly because with the way the States and the Ruskies are playing it will take something special to knock them out..:)
Yes, that was great game. Too bad that Russia didn't win, but all in all, a draw is a fair result for both teams. Sweden, Czech Republic, Russia and USA look the most likely teams to get into the semifinals. It's really too bad that all four teams from the group qualify for the next stage. :evil:

Can't wait to see Sweden-Czech Republic tonight.

[Severus]

Originally posted by PFC
Canada have been just plain awful.. Time to take out that overrated no good piece of trash Joseph and put in an actual goalie in Brodeur..

yup i agree. in fact, i am one of the few leaf fans who thinks we should trade cujo now for a solid youngster like a luongo for example because despite the praise he gets especially here in toronto, i think he's a goalie that doesn't bring it to the big games. that would explain why he's never won a cup or made the finals, nor has he won an international matchup yet either. the 2 games he played in the world cup of hockey in 97 i believe he lost both now this. i don't think canadians should use him as a scapegoat because of the 5 he let in 1 the most 2 were his fault. he was hung out to dry all game coupled by il GRANDE sundin !

[Severus]

Originally posted by Andrija PFC
Canada won't even get to the next round:yawn:

i can't wait to see you jump back on the bandwagon when we start kicking some arse and rant endlessly on how you never gave up hope ........

nevermind tonight against the squareheads. it'll start tomorrow vs the czech rep when all the kinks are out, we're firing on all cylinders and most importantly, we don't get disoriented because in international play, they don't use the bloody centreline !

COME ON YOU CANUCKS !!!!!

[Andrija PFC]

i can't wait to see you jump back on the bandwagon when we start kicking some arse and rant endlessly on how you never gave up hope ........

Oh be quiet. I knew since before the Olympics Canada couldn't do it...I figured Sweden, Czech Republic, Russia and Finland would be the unbeatable top four...the US majorly surprised me though but I don't think they can go any higher than bronze.

[PFC]

Another bad game for the Canucks.. Only beating the Germans 3-2..:eek: Now I know they created a lot of chances and were robbed by the goalie on many occassions but still that's no excuse.. This German goalie doesn't even play in the NHL..It's time to reorganize the youth systems.. This ideology that checking and hitting matters the most is killing Canada.. As is obvious with the juniors and now the seniors, their techincal skills are very poor..Checking will not get you medals.. When will the "genius" coaches around the country realize this ? The team is totally incompetent and has to dump the puck in every play to get past the opponents' blue line.. Other than Kariya, Fleury, Mario and possibly Iginla this team has no creativity..

We'll see how they do tomorrow.. With the perfomance they displayed tonight they would be lucky to allow less than 5..

[Super Croat]

Other than Kariya, Fleury, Mario and possibly Iginla this team has no creativity..

And don't forget Joe Sakic. Now there's a player with some skill. Fleury and Iginla are not all that creative....not that I'd expect you to know the difference.:silly:

[Zek]

thanks OAnimal :evil:

Sweden did that again! Another WIN! 2:1 and Hashek no the real hero is Tommy Salo! He played 2 excellent games. You know the name of the swedish tactical team strategy "TORPEDO".
they launch in the beginning and then when they're ready they know opponent quite good they shoot!
so Sweden is in semifinals

where's your pathos Sev? talk globally about strength of Canadian hockey and etc., no fun to discuss Curtis Joseph even if you put Hashek insted Canada won't be better.

The red line and big field fun: USA plays with no problems! and most of the europeans already forgot how to play on big fields that's what Bure was saying he said he would prefer NHL rules, since they're easier for him. For me as a spectator european hockey fields seem to be better less stupid fights, more combinations and creativity exactly the opposite to canadian style of play :D

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Zek

The red line and big field fun: USA plays with no problems! and most of the europeans already forgot how to play on big fields that's what Bure was saying he said he would prefer NHL rules, since they're easier for him. For me as a spectator european hockey fields seem to be better less stupid fights, more combinations and creativity exactly the opposite to canadian style of play :D

Again, I fully agree with Zek here. But do you really expect Canadians to think it's fun to play with international rules, when there are almost no fights ( which they love so much)?

[Zek]

Originally posted by OAnimal


Again, I fully agree with Zek here. But do you really expect Canadians to think it's fun to play with international rules, when there are almost no fights ( which they love so much)?

:D ;) :p :silly: :) :smoking: :evil:

:thumbsup: loool

[Komik 9]

Salo is Sweden's best player so far. He saved 37 out of 38 shots in the last game.

[Severus]

Originally posted by Andrija PFC


Oh be quiet. I knew since before the Olympics Canada couldn't do it...I figured Sweden, Czech Republic, Russia and Finland would be the unbeatable top four...the US majorly surprised me though but I don't think they can go any higher than bronze.

yeah sure you did. just mentioning finland in that group shows you know nothing about hockey.

[Severus]

Originally posted by PFC
Another bad game for the Canucks.. Only beating the Germans 3-2..:eek: Now I know they created a lot of chances and were robbed by the goalie on many occassions but still that's no excuse.. This German goalie doesn't even play in the NHL..It's time to reorganize the youth systems.. This ideology that checking and hitting matters the most is killing Canada.. As is obvious with the juniors and now the seniors, their techincal skills are very poor..Checking will not get you medals.. When will the "genius" coaches around the country realize this ? The team is totally incompetent and has to dump the puck in every play to get past the opponents' blue line.. Other than Kariya, Fleury, Mario and possibly Iginla this team has no creativity..

We'll see how they do tomorrow.. With the perfomance they displayed tonight they would be lucky to allow less than 5..

you couldn't be more wrong, firstly you forgot to mention sakic, niedermayer, pronger and jovonovski. secondly, how can you be creative when the person you pass it to isn't moving his feet ?????

[Severus]

Originally posted by OAnimal


Again, I fully agree with Zek here. But do you really expect Canadians to think it's fun to play with international rules, when there are almost no fights ( which they love so much)?

how can you fully agree with zek when you can't understand a word he says ?

[Zek]

Originally posted by Severus


how can you fully agree with zek when you can't understand a word he says ?

he's my hellmate so I don't have to be comprehensive he gets everything right with no problems :evil:

btw my english is degradin' :silly:

[Severus]

sure cos he speaks jibberish too.

[OAnimal]

I don't know what you have in mind, but I can understand Zek very well. His english is very good and I can always understand what he is saying. From your last post Severus, I can only see, that you are unable to admit that you are wrong about something and you rather start to talk shit about others (someone speaking jiberish, someone doesn't know anything about hockey, etc...). This is an interesting feature that only Italians (specially you and Porca) seem to have on this board...

Zek, hellmate :D:D:thumbsup::evil::evil:;)

[Zek]

thanks OAnimal hellmate :evil:

yeah Severus knows a lot about icehockey! he just can't admit what's going on. Severus just say yes Sweden was better in that particular game and that Sweden beat the crap out of Canadian stars. It's funny that you did not appear on the board the next day after Canada was beaten :D coincidence :confused:

I admit I don't know much about ice-hockey except that I was grown in the country with a strong hockey traditions (USSR), where you were able to find everything about ice-hockey and any other sports as well but hockey is a religion. ok not gonna talk a lot

[Severus]

yeah we were beaten by sweden in a meaningless game.

we also smashed russia in the junior tourney in a meaningless game too. what's your point ? playoffs start wednesday pal.

as for russia, if we had the population they did, we would surely be untouchable.

[PFC]

Severus you are suffering from a typical complex other Canadians are aswell.. You just can't admit that Canada aren't the best anymore..When was the last time the Seniors won a gold at the Olympics ? Thats tells you all..

Jovo is creative ? Please don't make me laugh..

I do hope Canada wins tonight but with the perfomance they have shown thus far they simply stand no chance..

[Zek]

Sweden's population is 9 mln people!
Strong ice hockey team
magdalena forsberg the best biathlonist in the history
good in many nordic sports
besides Soccer quite a strong team at least they have better results than Spanish national on WCs
Handball world champions
and many other sports.
so what? India has the second largest population but it's useless in terms of sports

Just face it you're wrong now with all possible arguments!

I wish your canada will win olympics in ice-hockey (just kidding) but the style they play now is disgusting. PFC is right!

[Andrija PFC]

Czech Rep. - Canada 3:3 (1:1, 1:1, 1:1)

Canada should be happy with this draw...and so should Lemiuex :D

As for the Germany game, a major factor in Canada's victory was that 5 minute powerplay which allowed them those two goals (yes, yes I know the 2nd goal came like 2s after the pp ended).

Canada ends up 3rd in the group, and I guess the 1/4 finals look something like this (after USA - BLR 8:1 and RUS - FIN 1:3)

Sweden - Belarus (looks like another 8:1 thrashing eh?:D:rolleyes: )
Czech Rep. - Russia (wow...one of them will miss up on a medal that's too bad...)
Finland - Canada
USA - Germany

[Severus]

andrija, i am happy with this result because i can see we've been improving considerably every outing. the czechs should be more pleased with the result though because if it wasn't for hasek --- they would've got smoked. after the first it could've easily been 4-1.

pfc i am not suffering from anything because i've come to the realization that we are not the dominant team anymore. this is just another one of your vintage misconceptions you deploy in a pathetic attempt to further your case.

our senior team ? this is only their second olympics ... before that only the amateurs competed in ice hockey.

regarding jovonovski ... you should watch him play once in a while on the double header or satellite, whatever, before you speak so blindly. his passing is his forte.

and zek, in what possible arguements am i wrong in ? i am talking about canada-russia, where does sweden come into the mix ?

[PFC]

Couldn't off been any better for Canada.. They played great, for once dominate their opponents, regained their confidence and now get to face Finland..:) Now let's not underestimate Finland, they are skilled and they did beat the Canucks in Nagano for the bronze.. Still Canada does enter the match as favourites and IMO should win this without too much trouble..I am going with a 3-1 win for Canada..;)

Severus, if you are not one of those people that reject reality then I apologize.. You seemed like one of them and let's face it many Canadians don't like to admit that they aren't supreme as they once were..;) About Jovo.. What I ment was this guy isn't creative..He cant go past players.. He is all about hitting, checking and bringing in a physical presence..

Russia vs the Czechs very tough call.. The outcome all depends on Hasek.. If he is strong then the Russians don't stand much of a chance, however if he has a bad game the Czechs will be destroyed.. I think this game could very well end up going into overtime..;)

[OAnimal]

Severus, read some of your posts from beginning of this thread, they don't show as you realized that you are not the strongest team in the world anymore. Specially when you talk about how Canada's powerplay realization will be superior to 50%...

Speaking about Canada-Russia population, Zek just gave you another example, like what would be if all countries had Russia's population - would Canada really be the best team? When I gave a similar comparison (I said if Italy would have a population of Slovenia, they would lose to Luxemburg in football) all Italians came spitting at my post... Double standards?

Nevertheless, to say the truth, Canada is improving and they may beat Finland and get to the semis. And maybe further although I still wouldn't bet on them getting to the final...

[Severus]

well pfc, he's not an ozolinsh/lidstrom type of defenceman highly skilled in that sense. he could do it all and can make beautiful outlet passes to the forwards too. watch for him to regain his confidence in that regard as the tournament progresses. but don't forget our lidstrom is niedermayer.

regarding the tournament, i fancy our chances with finland now that it seems we have found our confidence after outplaying the czechs last night. hopefully we'll continue improving but i still expect gold. nothing's changed in that aspect because we have the team to do it. there's no question about it.

[Zek]

haha outplayed czechs? i thought it was a draw won by Canada :silly:

[Severus]

what were the final shots on goal ... 35-20 ? if it was any other goalie in net for the czechs after the first it would've been 4-1.

not to mention all the czech rep. goals came off of stupid uncharacteristic mistakes from our defence too. i'll put it to you this way, right now its just one line that's awake for us and thats lemieux, kariya and yzerman. god help the rest of you if lines 2,3,and 4 just so happen to wake up from their deep long sleep.

[PFC]

Zek there's a saying here.. Those who laugh last laugh the hardest...Belarus beat Sweden 4-3... HAHAHAHAHAHJAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

STICK TO HANDBALL !!

[Andrija PFC]

:eek: Russia junior managed to beat Sweden :eek: that was unexpected :eek: the upset of the tournament


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[neki]

Czechs are going home... :dontcare:

It was too soon for that game. They should of met in final :mad2:

anyway:

Russians RULEZZZ :D :D :rolling:

[Severus]

WELL, i knew the swedes were going to fade --- i didn't think they'd have their heads handed to them on a silver platter by belarus though. i thought it would be canada that'd do it.

the czechs are out, that's surprising. i thought they would've made short work of the russians i guess i was wrong. now they're gonna face a well oiled US machine and ...... i don't like their chances. finland and belarus stand in our way of the finals so ...

cheers to a good ol' north american derby

let's go canada LET'S GO !!!!

[ItalianBoy]

Bilorussia won 43 against SWEden huh!

[heidi]

Finland-Canada 1-2

[Severus]

hey where's sweden ???? that's all i have to say !

bring on that crappy version of russia belarus so we can show the SWEDEhearts how its really done.

GOLD CANADA GOLD !!!

[Zek]

yeah guys you've the right to laugh as much as you want.
Yesterday it was a disaster, nobody understands what went wrong? probably concentration and Tommy Salo the guy who brought gold to sweden before, and thanks to him Sweden finished first in the group did such a terrible mistakes. overconfident sweden lost. :( now Canada is probably in finals! Good luck then the only thing what I can say. Russians and Belorussians ( USSR :D) I don't want them to win gold.

yesterday belorussian player was giving interview to Swedish TV and he said they already bought tickets home for tomorrow and packed their stuff at home planning to leave. Swedish TV was making comparisons with 90's WC when Sweden lost to Costa-Rica in Italy. anyway everyone is pissed off...

Yeah PFC i know the saying that's why I laugh crazily first since I am not sure i will have a chance to laugh later :D
"typical interfan attitude" cauz you never know ;)

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p

[Zek]

check this link out
I guess you don't have to know Swedish to understand the front page of the most popular swedish newspaper
http://www.aftonbladet.se

Black day of the Swedish Hockey!
:annoyed:

[OAnimal]

Zek, hellmate :evil: I am sorry to see Sweden out. :(
They should be in the semis and kick the canadian ass once again. This way it is all left to Russia to defend the honor of the european hockey, although they were very lucky to get into the semis. Czechs outplayed them for most of the game, but Habibulin was just amazing, stopping all 41 shots. Anyway, go Russia!

[Severus]

should've, would've .... AREN'T

its gonna be canada vs USA in the finals to rekindle that north american rivalry.

[Severus]

andrija's "unbeatable 4" --- sweden (now that's a joke), czech rep. russia and finland.

looks like she's only 1 for 4.

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus
its gonna be canada vs USA in the finals to rekindle that north american rivalry.
This will be the third place match, pizzaboy...

[Andrija PFC]

Oh give me a break Severus. 1 for 4? Not exactly. Russia and Czech Rep met in the 1/4 finals ;)

As for Canada, congrats to them of course, but you know that game could have gone either way...

As for Belarus, well they have to win a medal now! :D Who would've thought...Olympic hockey has become as unpredictable as the LNF :D

[Severus]

a tournament using this format is always vulnerable to major upsets. just look at the NCAA basketball tourneys. there are upsets all the time because its just one game at a time do or die scenario.

regarding finland, sure it could've gone either way. one goal seperated the clubs for most of the match. but that's only because of janne hurme's stellar performance otherwise that game should've been a blowout. we pumped them.

and now belarus stands in the way of us and the USA ;)

[Super Croat]

Originally posted by Super Croat
Joe Sakic will win the gold for Canada this year. Mark my words....

That was what I said over a month ago. Joe Sakic scored the game winner in the Gold Medal game and was selected first star of the game.

Now, congratulate me on my accurate prediction.:silly: :o :smoking:

[Petko]

Originally posted by Super Croat

Now, congratulate me on my accurate prediction.:silly: :o :smoking:

Nah, thats alright, we won't

[PFC]

Wohoooooo what a win !! Canada desmantled the Americans..People are partying all over the country...Ahh what can I say..Canada proved that they are the best...:thumbsup:

[Andrija PFC]

Well I was wrong:yawn:...but I'm sure glad those Americans got it and got it good :evil:

[Zek]

I have to say this, eventhough it's hard to say but I have to :D

"Congratulations to all Canada fans. It was a great game I guess. I did not watch it since I was helping my friend to move to New Zeland now. Anyway, Severus and PFC special congratulations to you both, for being faithful Canada fans.

When it comes to me I laughed a lot now it's your time ;) I hope next time Sweden will not do stupid mistakes..."

Zek

[PFC]

zek I wouldn't be suprised if they made this day a national holiday in Canada..:D You've got to admit on paper this Canadian team is simply unbelievable..No one has the big names and stars (other than Russia no one even comes close to Canada) as Canada does.. Had they practiced for 2 weeks prior to the tournament I am sure they would just blow apart everyone..

Props to Don Cherry, he said prior to the game, that Canada would smoke the Americans.. and he couldn't of been more right.. :p

[Super Croat]

Feb 24) WEST VALLEY CITY, Utah (CP) - The official men's hockey all-star team for the 2002 Winter Olympics had only one player, tournament MVP Joe Sakic , from the winning Canadian team.

The rest of the all-star squad had U.S. goaltender Mike Richter, American defenceman Brian Leetch and Chris Chelios, U.S. winger John LeClair and Swedish centre Mats Sundin. The team was selected by media, mostly from the United States, covering the tournament.


Reporters from The Canadian Press selected the following squads:


First Team

Goaltender: Nikolai Khabibulin, Russia. Had the game of the tournament as the Russians ousted the defending champion Czechs from the competition with a 1-0 victory in the quarter-finals. Also kept Russia in the game in a 3-2 semifinal loss to the United States.

Defence: Rob Blake, Canada. Scored a goal and was a force at both ends of the rink for Canada.

Defence: Brian Leetch, U.S. Had five assists and was the motor of a U.S. attack that dominated until the final.

Forward: Joe Sakic, Canada. Finished with four goals and three assists, was Canada's most consistent forward, and was the star of the gold medal game.

Forward: Mario Lemieux, Canada. Had two goals and four assists in five games and was an inspirational leader for his team.

Forward: John LeClair, U.S. The big winger scored a tournament-best six goals.


Second Team

Goaltender: Martin Brodeur, Canada. Won the job after Curtis Joseph faltered in the opener against Sweden and was solid as well as contributing with deft puck-handling.

Defence: Vladimir Malakhov, Russia. Was a physical presence and an offensive force.

Defence: Adam Foote, Canada. Perhaps the steadiest defensive blue-liner in the tournament.

Forward: Mats Sundin, Sweden. Was the most dangerous scorer in the tournament until his team was eliminated by Belarus.

Forward: Brett Hull, U.S. Had eight points, including four goals.

Forward: Steve Yzerman, Canada. Had six points for Canada and was a leader despite a suspect knee.


(CP reporters Pierre LeBrun and Neil Stevens also contributed to this report).



MVP Joe Sakic is the best hockey player in the World right now.

[Severus]

crow anyone ?

zek, o'animal where's the skill you ask? it was on display this afternoon when we ROUTED the USA enroute to a gold medal.

supercroat, i am glad you were bang on. sakic was stellar this afternoon and .........

WE ARE THE CHAMPIONS !!!

[OAnimal]

Congratulations from me to all Canadian fans too. All in all, Canada deserved the gold, although I would really love to see them play the semis against Sweden... :evil:

However, it's a shame that on the next Olympics, there will be no NHL players, so that the European teams could regain the title in style... An european team will win for sure in Torino 2006, but the victory will be without that special taste...

[Severus]

Originally posted by OAnimal
Congratulations from me to all Canadian fans too. All in all, Canada deserved the gold, although I would really love to see them play the semis against Sweden... :evil:


i would've loved to had seen that particular semifinal too. but sweden had their clocks cleaned by belarus, that's not our problem.

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus


i would've loved to had seen that particular semifinal too. but sweden had their clocks cleaned by belarus, that's not our problem.
Of course. And further, I didn't say, that Sweden would beat Canada again...

[Severus]

yeah, and "your" russians didn't beat the US once ! i just thought i'd re-open that can of worms ......

[OAnimal]

You are right, however canadian powerplay realization was far below 50% as well...

[Severus]

i don't know of many teams that click at 50 % on the PP. we averaged 30% and that's about common for everyone.

anyway who cares ? we're the best in the world and a european team didn't even make the finals ;)

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Severus
i don't know of many teams that click at 50 % on the PP. we averaged 30% and that's about common for everyone.

Oh, I am sorry, I checked it out, it was SuperCroat, who claimed this, not you.

[Severus]

i think he was just a little excited. its extremely tough having your PP click at 50%. i mean, its possible to maintain it for 2-3 games but 6 is definitly stretching it. when you run into a hot goaltender, you're lucky if you can score 1 out of every 4 or 5 chances.

[OAnimal]

Yes, I agree.

[Super Croat]

I guess I was.... Just the thought of those players playing together got me dreaming a bit...

I will say that I enjoyed the Olympic hockey. In all honesty there are 6 teams that could compete for gold. The competition is tight with the amount talent the big 6 teams displayed. I thought the Olympics really had the highest level of hockey that could be played.

It was excellent to watch. Especially the USA/Russia game and ofcourse the Gold Medal game.:D