Europa League Round of 32: Trabzonspor vs PSV Eindhoven

[GeneralSherman]

http://img72.imageshack.us/img72/4584/trabzonsporpsvbanner.jpg
http://www.eglenceli.net/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/trabzonspor-psv-eindhoven.jpg
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[GeneralSherman]

PSV Eindhoven's most common starting 11:
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/3349/psveindhoven.jpg

[Commendatore]

PSV is not favorite here,50:50 match but PSV is more experienced in Europe and UEFA interest is to keep them in this competition who needs some "Asian" club so PSV will advance

[Finaslan]

Well match will be aired by D-Smart today. Hopefully there will be some good streams..

[Razzerian]

Very difficult match-up... PSV is having a decent season, though I'm not convinced about their coach Fred Rutten (who is also leaving after this season). He's not a "briliant" man, PSV mainly relies on Dries Mertens, if Trabzon can take him out of the game...

[Commendatore]

My prediction trabzon wins by 1 goal margin...i hope they dont concede for Dutch league is nothing special i used to watch couple matches this season for first time in my life and they are very bad just run and gun play...

[Barbarossa]

Same here, I think 1-0 is a fair prediction. Goal from Halil...

ILK 11: Tolga, Mustafa, Serkan, Celustka, Giray, Cech, Colman, Aykut, Halil, Olcan, Burak

PSV: Isaksson, Manolev, Marcelo, Derijck, Willems, Strootman, Hutchinson, Mertens, Toivonen, Matavz, Lens

[OsmanAslan]

All eyes are on Burak with all these offers reportedly coming in, I have a feeling he'll net one in today to show he can play european ball.

[Erdz_GS]

Anyone got working links? I've been surfing around and can't find shit.

[Mistik Empire]

http://futbol.superstadyum.net/74279/trabzonspor-psv-eindhoven-macini-canli-izle

they fkin scored amk!

[Commendatore]

PSV 0-1 Trabzon is out

[Erdz_GS]

Damn the site freezes up on me.

http://www.rojadirecta.me/

The sopcast links are in dutch but good quality, can hear the crowd good.

[Commendatore]

0-2 haha

[Commendatore]

Im quit watching this

[Erdz_GS]

0-2 :facepalm:

[Mistik Empire]

:| wtf? is going on

[Erdz_GS]

There's still 170 mins of football to be played though.

[cim_bom15]

lol

[cim_bom15]

links?

[GalapagosaraY]

already out :S good thing City match is on tv

[Mistik Empire]

I must be seriously watching the wrong match, this cant be the TS i been watching in the CL

[Commendatore]

There is no Zokora instread there is this Akgun guy so shit player...and Yumlu-Balci partnership in defense wich means whole defense is ruined Trabzon looked different in CL

[Erdz_GS]

sop://sop.rojadirecta.me:3912/106491

sop://broker.sopcast.com:3912/125816

http://www.rojadirecta.me/

It's worth downloading Sopcast.

[Erdz_GS]

***K Yilmaz just offside nearly 1v1

[cim_bom15]

lol f*ck this brahs its 7:24am here and trabzons down 2-0.....im going the f*ck back to sleep :lol: cyas later

[Erdz_GS]

Napiyon lan Balci?

[Erdz_GS]

Starting to find our groove, if we eat another then we're out.

[Razzerian]

Over and out.

It took Trabzon 11 minutes to get knocked out of Europe :)

[Erdz_GS]

Total football 101.

[Commendatore]

1-2 Olcan

[Erdz_GS]

OLCAN ADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN NNNNNNNNNn

[Mistik Empire]

GOL! funny how we scored, just as i stopped watchin the english link an turned to the turkish link! Ugursuzzzz english commentator!

[Erdz_GS]

I like my dutch commentator :P, he's quite, not biased and let's the fans sing, now the fans are back up.

[Erdz_GS]

No yellow? Pfft

[Commendatore]

Ref is crap

[erdo]

turkish teams showing how crap they are in europe. Embarrasing football. I hate the way altintop plays with a passion. Turkish teams always in fight with the ref, play some football you piece of shit trabzon. Players leaving huge space amq.

[Erdz_GS]

So half time, their coach is probably going to tell them to take the win here and play cautiously, and hopefully we'll capitalize and push harder, we can take this or get the draw with a goal, from there anything can happen.

Burak nearly made a perfect run but was offside, I got confidence in the guy.

[Erdz_GS]

And yeah Razz that Mertens is something good.

[Erdz_GS]

All this dribbling nonsense :facepalm:

[Erdz_GS]

***K Yilmaz nearly scored.

What a keeper man.

[Erdz_GS]

We're getting them.

[Erdz_GS]

Trabzon 200 dribble attempts, 10 succeeded.

Well not even 3 to be honest.

[Fenerliyim]

lol

[Barbarossa]

Once again, as I have always said, Burak Yilmaz has proven that he is not a big game player. I would love to see how many offside calls he's received in Europe this season. Carry on scoring hat-tricks against Manisaspor dude, nobody in Europe is gonna sign you :tsk:

Sorry to rant like this, but Burak really pisses me off sometimes.

Olcan was superb, his goal was excellent too. I wish so badly that GS had signed him, he is worth 5 million at least.

Barring an absolute miracle, it's over for Trabzon. Couldn't even muster a draw at home. Very disappointed. :tsk:

[turkaholic]

lol

hahahaha

[turkaholic]

Once again, as I have always said, Burak Yilmaz has proven that he is not a big game player. I would love to see how many offside calls he's received in Europe this season. Carry on scoring hat-tricks against Manisaspor dude, nobody in Europe is gonna sign you :tsk:

Sorry to rant like this, but Burak really pisses me off sometimes.

Olcan was superb, his goal was excellent too. I wish so badly that GS had signed him, he is worth 5 million at least.

Barring an absolute miracle, it's over for Trabzon. Couldn't even muster a draw at home. Very disappointed. :tsk:

I'd love Burak to go to Europe and get his ass handed to him and come back here all miserable. That douche can only score against Karabuk, Samsun etc...

[cim_bom15]

trabzon are finished lol i wouldnt say its impossible though it is improbable. burak as usual disappears from games when it counts. they really need him to be the stsl burak next game if they got any chance of winning

[Erdz_GS]

Once again, as I have always said, Burak Yilmaz has proven that he is not a big game player. I would love to see how many offside calls he's received in Europe this season. Carry on scoring hat-tricks against Manisaspor dude, nobody in Europe is gonna sign you :tsk:

Sorry to rant like this, but Burak really pisses me off sometimes.

Olcan was superb, his goal was excellent too. I wish so badly that GS had signed him, he is worth 5 million at least.

Barring an absolute miracle, it's over for Trabzon. Couldn't even muster a draw at home. Very disappointed. :tsk:

Did you watch the game? No offence bro but I knew people would come in and say things about Burak, I've been a bit pissed off today from this result, mainly because no one was ***king supporting Burak, really it's a ***king disgrace, every single Trabzon player from Balci to Adin was hogging it like no tomorrow and it makes my blood boil when I spend 90 minutes watching that shit, Burak had 0 support and there's only so much he can do by himself against a good strong fast defence like PSV's, he needs to get out of that shit hole team, I liked when Paulo Henrique came on too, he was a decent partner for Burak, Altintop was ok he was trying to be a team player but the rest of the outfield can go ***k themselves.

Sorry for the wall of text.

[turkaholic]

Did you watch the game? No offence bro but I knew people would come in and say things about Burak, I've been a bit pissed off today from this result, mainly because no one was ***king supporting Burak, really it's a ***king disgrace, every single Trabzon player from Balci to Adin was hogging it like no tomorrow and it makes my blood boil when I spend 90 minutes watching that shit, Burak had 0 support and there's only so much he can do by himself against a good strong fast defence like PSV's, he needs to get out of that shit hole team, I liked when Paulo Henrique came on too, he was a decent partner for Burak, Altintop was ok he was trying to be a team player but the rest of the outfield can go ***k themselves.

Sorry for the wall of text.

How come Burak never gets help when it comes to playing bigger teams and gets all the help he needs against friggin A.Gucu? Ever thought of that? He simply is not as good as you guys make him out to be.

[cim_bom15]

How come Burak never gets help when it comes to playing bigger teams and gets all the help he needs against friggin A.Gucu? Ever thought of that? He simply is not as good as you guys make him out to be.

gotta take burak with a grain of salt. for the stsl he is a beast and id love to have him, for europe i would look elsewhere for a better striker. if burak can break out of his mould he can be a beast

[Erdz_GS]

How come Burak never gets help when it comes to playing bigger teams and gets all the help he needs against friggin A.Gucu? Ever thought of that? He simply is not as good as you guys make him out to be.

Maybe because when it comes to the big games his team mates flop like flowers from nerves and forget how to move the ball around, did you guys watch the game? Can you honestly tell me that the team was supporting the strikers? Btw smashing the ball up the field from the defence is not trying to set up your striker, it's a half assed attempt at doing whatever the ***k they try to achieve.

[Erdz_GS]

He nearly scored, smashed the ball that most keepers in the CL wouldn't have even been able to save, and he made that all from himself, so you guys are just talking shit because he didn't score but didn't actually analyze the game properly, one striker doesn't score = he's ***king shit. Yeah it's so easy for him to score against a defence of PSV's.

When was the last time Ronaldo scored in a crucial game Vs Barca? = he's shit.. ?

I ain't having a rant coz he's my fav player or something, he's up there though and I respect him a lot, but don't judge someone just by goals, consider all the elements that the player has to work with and also his oposition before calling off a striker, if Besiktas or FB or Cimbom played against this PSV side with Burak up front I'm sure he would have done a lot more, that's one of my examples.

Don't judge someone just by how many goals they score.

[turkaholic]

:lol: Burak and Ronaldo comparison. And talking about the PSV's defence? For god's sake, a team from Netherlands can't have that good of a defence. Even if they did, isn't Burak supposed to be... ummm.. wait for it... really good? Even what you're saying proves he's not good enough. Once he's up against good defensemen, he chokes. Plus, PSV's defence is average at best and with that I am being generous.

[Erdz_GS]

I think PSV deserves a lot more credit, did you watch the game? Their team was quick strong and technical hence my "total football" post earlier on in the thread.

Trabzon's midfield choked big time though, absolutely no passing in final third for the second half, and that's definitely something you won't find in the big 3 clubs of Turkey as opposed to Trabzon. I honestly don't see how Burak choked there, ok he was quiet, but see the man marking they did to him? When you have a striker that has scored over 25 goals in a season do you guys think that teams won't be aware of the threat?

And my point still stands, a great attempt that %90 of keepers can't save had been saved, on another day against another keeper he would have simply been hailed on this forum.

[YesilTimsah]

Trabzon's defense :(. It's been their Achilles heel, Giray, Glowacki, and Mustafa Yumlu are all not good enough for Europe imo. Senol Gunes needs to really get a quality defender in the summer.

[cim_bom15]

i just generally think that trabzon wont ever be a contender in europe, not like the other big 3. if we compare our big 4 to englands big 4 trabzon would be the equivalent of arsenal.

[YesilTimsah]

I don't think that's necessarily true. Any team can develop themselves and become contenders among the best.

[Erdz_GS]

Trabzon's defense :(. It's been their Achilles heel, Giray, Glowacki, and Mustafa Yumlu are all not good enough for Europe imo. Senol Gunes needs to really get a quality defender in the summer.

Yeah that's true, Alanzinho and Colman flopped hard too, especially Alanzinho, but for some reason Colman got subbed off first half, not having Zokora hurt them badly. But also PSV physically raped Trabzon.


i just generally think that trabzon wont ever be a contender in europe, not like the other big 3. if we compare our big 4 to englands big 4 trabzon would be the equivalent of arsenal.

Definitely, the fans are rubbish too for not helping them when they're behind. It was like a funeral in the second half, place went off tap after Trabzon goal but after that pfft.

[Razzerian]

If only they had the manly man, Korkmaz Egemen.

:D

[YesilTimsah]

And Selcuk Inan, I think they did pretty well considering they lost two of their top players, who were also Turkish, making it hurt that much more.

[Razzerian]

And Selcuk Inan, I think they did pretty well considering they lost two of their top players, who were also Turkish, making it hurt that much more.

Yeah but I don't think their midfield is the problem at all...

[Finaslan]

Even though Jaja was a primadonna, at least he made things work for them in the attacking section too. Now they have this Alanzinho who's inconsistent even in simple TSL games. Of course the biggest loss for them was Selcuk Inan.. him together with Burak would've had them go through CL group stage. The fact that TS didn't get anyone to replace their best defender Egemen was also laughable. I said even before season started that TS is not going to be as strong anymore.. it was just to obvious.

Trabzon have not even been that strong in TSL either, it's only Burak who's been carrying the team, but in Europe you need a lot more than just 1 player.

[Razzerian]

Alazinho has always been inconsistant though, maybe to a lesser extent than Yattara... but atleast Yattara had some serious moments of briliance, while Alanzinho... honestly. Has he ever done ANYTHING big? Sure against Manisaspor or so but I've never noticed him in a positive way in big games.

Szymkowiak! Now that was a good offensive midfielder for them!

[Commendatore]

Playing without Zokora with that Aykut guy and with Yumlu-Kacar u cant expect nothing more...Kacar-Celsutka was more logic but game is over now.
Trabzon should sell both Brasilians they are useless,also they should give more playing time to Sen and Adrian

[Finaslan]

PSTV's short clip about Trabzon :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMBPZtOXiTo

lol @ 00:42

[turkaholic]

hahaha that guy is a friggin retard. Way to promote the Dutch your city. Friggin clowns are still peeing in the sea. :facepalm:

[bjk88]

the dutch are pricks and so is their inbred royal family.

[YesilTimsah]

***k them, they tried to show Trabzon as a backwards crap town. A poster on XT posted this video yesterday and suggested that the Trabzon TV people film Dutch picking up hookers in Eindhoven. I agree with him to be honest. What a bunch of pricks.

[turkaholic]

It doesn't matter what the Dutch do. That guy is deliberately peeing in the sea in bright day light. Are we that retarted not to be able to find a proper toilet?

[Barbarossa]

I had to watch that bit three times to satisfy myself that I didn't imagine it.

a) why?
b) why are the asshole Dutch using this clip in the video? Typical, always trying to make Turks look bad...

And then Trabzon go and lose to this twats in their own ground, makes me so angry.

[bjk88]

That guy could've been one of their crew for all I know, how many shots of that one clotheshanger did they get too.. Nowhere in that sinking dreary country is there anywhere as nice as Trabzon in my opinion, take away its economic advantage gained through colonialism and usury and you just have a swamp with stale food and an ugly language.

[rebelsin7]

Nothing wrong with peeing in the sea... maybe there wasn't a public toilet nearby. Most European cities smell like piss all over the place from people drinking in public and pissing all over their cities... The sea/forest/nature in general is way better for taking a leak than urban space... Right? Only problem I can see is who the hell videotapes someone doing that... :confused: F*cking douche bags... (also, I'm not generalizing about all Dutch people, I mean the f*cktards who made that video)...

[YesilTimsah]

Exactly man, ***k them. They see Turkey as being backwards and record crap like that to fit their stereotype of the country & people.

[Erdz_GS]

Nothing wrong with peeing in the sea... maybe there wasn't a public toilet nearby. Most European cities smell like piss all over the place from people drinking in public and pissing all over their cities... The sea/forest/nature in general is way better for taking a leak than urban space... Right? Only problem I can see is who the hell videotapes someone doing that... :confused: F*cking douche bags... (also, I'm not generalizing about all Dutch people, I mean the f*cktards who made that video)...

This, also drinking your own pee is good for you so meh.

And it's not like it's going to kill the fish, might as well let something of nature go where it matters rather then the sewage.

From watching Borat I seen this ritual where this white dude encourages people to piss on trees because, well piss is water.

[cim_bom15]

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTC_JesUDXz-Bj9CxMvpS6uEzj6qaQxNdiljQbaUGXpQzXWEvhKIQ

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQOU-xDXPBCYICAVHJDyN85N24SbCM8q3gCoajDSRbjT_WO-8I8pA

im sure all of you saw this coming :lol:

[GeneralSherman]

I love how everybody was going "blah, blah, blah, total football, blah, blah, blah, I hate Burak, blah, blah, blah, Turkish teams in Europe, blah, blah, blah" when Kayserispor is taking advantages of the same squad depth issues that PSV took advantage of, name Mustafa and Aykut.

The fact that Mustafa Yumlu and Aykut Akgun are 24 and never figured at youth international level for Turkiye shows that Trabzonspor could stand to have and probably could find better Turkish players in their position. Senol Gunes has done a good job of getting as much as he could out of these two local guys as he does with all the players he coaches but I don't think these two are enough.

[Razzerian]

Imo the foreign transfers they did this season has been good, but they've been putting a lot of money in the attacking line while they've totally ignored the defence...

Olcan was a GREAT signing! And on paper Volkan Sen was a great signing too (didn't pan out that way so far)... but their center defence... seriously?

Celuska and Cech are good backs and they already had Serkan Balci, who in my opinion is still one of the better right backs in the league.

But not replacing Egemen in the center was a big mistake, they should've bought an experienced central defender... prefferably someone with both European experience and experience in a top league...

[GeneralSherman]

PSTV's short clip about Trabzon :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMBPZtOXiTo

lol @ 00:42


hahaha that guy is a friggin retard. Way to promote the Dutch your city. Friggin clowns are still peeing in the sea. :facepalm:


the dutch are pricks and so is their inbred royal family.


***k them, they tried to show Trabzon as a backwards crap town. A poster on XT posted this video yesterday and suggested that the Trabzon TV people film Dutch picking up hookers in Eindhoven. I agree with him to be honest. What a bunch of pricks.


It doesn't matter what the Dutch do. That guy is deliberately peeing in the sea in bright day light. Are we that retarted not to be able to find a proper toilet?


I had to watch that bit three times to satisfy myself that I didn't imagine it.

a) why?
b) why are the asshole Dutch using this clip in the video? Typical, always trying to make Turks look bad...

And then Trabzon go and lose to this twats in their own ground, makes me so angry.


That guy could've been one of their crew for all I know, how many shots of that one clotheshanger did they get too.. Nowhere in that sinking dreary country is there anywhere as nice as Trabzon in my opinion, take away its economic advantage gained through colonialism and usury and you just have a swamp with stale food and an ugly language.


Nothing wrong with peeing in the sea... maybe there wasn't a public toilet nearby. Most European cities smell like piss all over the place from people drinking in public and pissing all over their cities... The sea/forest/nature in general is way better for taking a leak than urban space... Right? Only problem I can see is who the hell videotapes someone doing that... :confused: F*cking douche bags... (also, I'm not generalizing about all Dutch people, I mean the f*cktards who made that video)...


Exactly man, ***k them. They see Turkey as being backwards and record crap like that to fit their stereotype of the country & people.

The Dutch are degenerate assholes and I don't want to hear any crap about "but but but the immigration...". It goes far deeper than that (No offense, commentadore; I'm only brining this stuff up to rip on the Dutch): "Colonel Thom Karremans was filmed raising a glass with war crimes suspect and General Ratko Mladić. Following negotiations between UN and Mladić's forces, on Friday, July 21st, 1995, lieutenant-colonel Karremans and Dutch UN soldiers were allowed to leave Srebrenica. On the farewell, Colonel Karremans accepted gifts from General Mladić, smiled, shook his hand and departed. Shortly after his return to The Netherlands Karremans was promoted to full colonel."

http://www.thehollandbureau.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/09/0102044496300.jpg

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,2081634,00.html

Aside from holding back Turkish football for two years (useless f*cking rijkaard and Hiddink with his retarded 4-2-1-2-1), they're a bunch of pussies who, as imperialists, could only pick on South Africans and Indonesians armed with spears.

[Razzerian]

Oh man I saw this documentary about the Dutch sodliers in Bosnia when Mladic came riding up in his tanks, those guys looked like they where pissing their pants man... they just packed their bags and left those people to get slaugthered...


But I stand by what I always say, you can't judge every single peson in a nation on the acts of a few. The Netherlands has some weird stuff going on but at the same time it's a pretty interesting and nice country. I wouldn't want to live there though, cause if the polar Ice caps melt, that's where waterworld will start :D

[GeneralSherman]

Oh man I saw this documentary about the Dutch sodliers in Bosnia when Mladic came riding up in his tanks, those guys looked like they where pissing their pants man... they just packed their bags and left those people to get slaugthered...


But I stand by what I always say, you can't judge every single peson in a nation on the acts of a few. The Netherlands has some weird stuff going on but at the same time it's a pretty interesting and nice country. I wouldn't want to live there though, cause if the polar Ice caps melt, that's where waterworld will start :D

LOL, I just remembered that they're pretty much at sea level.

Don't worry, Raz, I know not absolutely all of them are assholes. People need to stop putting stuff like that up, though, lol. That shit just gets me agitated.

[Finaslan]

I have to interrupt you guys, no politics. Please keep that in mind.

[Razzerian]

When it comes to football they're incredibly arrogant though...

Man that Louis van Gaal was commenting for the NOS before the match between Feyenoord & Fenerbahçe some years ago...

You know what that prick said?

"Turkish football really isn't all that great", I was red with rage when I heard that come out of his fat mouth...

But in Belgium it's the same, they can be so arrogant. But I see the same thing here though, they comment on stuff they have no clue about but people here do exactly the same... I hate it when people judge a team/league without ever having seen a game from them... there's nothing I hate more in Football than stuff like that.

[GeneralSherman]

When it comes to football they're incredibly arrogant though...

Man that Louis van Gaal was commenting for the NOS before the match between Feyenoord & Fenerbahçe some years ago...

You know what that prick said?

"Turkish football really isn't all that great", I was red with rage when I heard that come out of his fat mouth...

But in Belgium it's the same, they can be so arrogant. But I see the same thing here though, they comment on stuff they have no clue about but people here do exactly the same... I hate it when people judge a team/league without ever having seen a game from them... there's nothing I hate more in Football than stuff like that.

Wow, he really said that after a World Cup where Turkiye reached 3rd place and a season of club football where Galatasaray knocked out PSV and had been raping European clubs for at least three seasons? Meanwhile, the Dutch didn't even qualify for the World Cup...

I think his AZ team almost got knocked out by Ertugrul Saglam's Kayserispor and Fenerbahce in the same year too? If either of them had been more careful about conceding 2nd half goals AZ would have been eliminated as going into the second half in both cames, AZ was out.

[Razzerian]

Wow, he really said that after a World Cup where Turkiye reached 3rd place and a season of club football where Galatasaray knocked out PSV and had been raping European clubs for at least three seasons? Meanwhile, the Dutch didn't even qualify for the World Cup...

I think his AZ team almost got knocked out by Ertugrul Saglam's Kayserispor and Fenerbahce in the same year too? If either of them had been more careful about conceding 2nd half goals AZ would have been eliminated as going into the second half in both cames, AZ was out.

I do believe that was the season Feyenoord won the Uefa cup though... it was 2002-2003 if I remember correctly.

But yeah, not all dutch are as cocky as he is but still... a lot of them are.

Dutch people are known to "speak their mind" but often they just talk crap :P

[GeneralSherman]

I do believe that was the season Feyenoord won the Uefa cup though... it was 2002-2003 if I remember correctly.

But yeah, not all dutch are as cocky as he is but still... a lot of them are.

Dutch people are known to "speak their mind" but often they just talk crap :P

Yeah, it was the Feyenoord team coming off the UEFA Cup win in 2002. IMO, a lame UEFA Cup winner. Since 1997, the UEFA Cup winner had beaten the Champions League winner to win the UEFA Super Cup up until Feyenoord f*cked up the streak.

[Am I Evil?]

wrong thread..