Cole - Messi is world's best

[Gunner]

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Joe Cole has told Lionel Messi he would love to team up with him at Chelsea - and taunted Cristiano Ronaldo by saying the Argentina star has proved he is the world's best.

Chelsea have been linked with Barcelona attacker Messi on a number of occasions as Roman Abramovich apparently looks to inject more flair into the club, and Cole admits he would relish the opportunity to play alongside the youngster.

And ahead of next week's UEFA Champions League final, Cole has told Ronaldo that Messi proved he was the better player when the sides met in the previous round.

"I think they are both great players," he said. "Ronaldo has been fantastic, but Messi showed in the semi-final that he is the top man.

"If we could sign him, I'd love to play alongside him. He is only 20 as well - just imagine how good he will be in the next 10 years."

Meanwhile, Cole has rejected team-mate Didier Drogba's claims that the team lost the title race because of complacency.



Concentration


Referring to the amount of late goals Chelsea conceded, the Ivory Coast striker said it was 'certainly proof of an excess of complacency and a lack of concentration on our part'.

But Cole insists that all teams make mistakes and Manchester United came out on top because they were the better side.

"The best team win the Premier League - it is as simple as that.

"Manchester United would have dropped points they shouldn't have too. We just have to put it to bed and get on with things.

"We have the Champions League to play for. If you worried about every mistake you or the team had made over the course of the season, you would never sleep at night.

"Everyone has been patting us on the back for almost winning the league and getting to the Champions League final but it is about putting silverware on the table."

[Wabbit]

One of a hell truth haha :smoking:

But no chance to team up with him unless he goes barca

[Gunner]

i know, messi wont leave barca, especially for chelsea, but u never know, i mean look how crap barca are right now, i think he would come to arsenal but we dont have the money

[Vic]

Bullshit, Ronaldo owns Messi :nod:

[Wabbit]

^Agreed!!

[nelly]

I agree, Messi for me, is the best player at present. However if Ronaldo were to re-create his league form for his country in the up coming Euro's, then a lot more poeple might have Ronaldo at no. 1.

[Wabbit]

^Ronaldo is good indeed and have that one chance to probe it with Portugal again...but I still think he needs to be more humble...which has tnohing to do with football but it doesn't kill u to have it :p

[nelly]

RE: Ronaldo Agreed, his attitude is very me me me, (As you say this has nothing to do with his ability) I also think Fergie would like to see him do a little more for the team when he/Man U do not have the ball. Look at Rooney he is a work hoarse.

[Wabbit]

^I totally agree, he needs to start playing as a team or else...u.u
Well every team should work as one or else it just not enough, he might be the best player on earth(not saying he is) but if he doesnt share it doesnt really count

[ulster21]

oh man.....not another messi vs. c.ronaldo thread :shocked:

[Wabbit]

^Hahaha no is not...but if u mention one u must mention the other one :lol:

[SE7E]

C. Ronaldo this season was more consistent, and had no "long-term" injuries, unlike Messi; but yeah, I agree - Messi is way more fun to watch, you never know what he's gonna do.

[benfica64]

Well its like this!! a few will tell you messi is the best while a few dozen will tell you CR is the best. The vast majority of knowledgable soccer people, the managers/coaches and players thenm selfs around the best leagues in the world will tell you CR is hands down the greatest footballer, Bar none. I dont know what one wants to go by? flair CR, skill CR, excillrating to watch, CR, faster CR, more powerful CR, and if stats are what proves your worth, he has all the stats over messi, stats CR. So basically it comes down to people that like messi personally they claim hes the best. Reality says a whole different ballgame.

[SE7E]

Well its like this!! a few will tell you messi is the best while a few dozen will tell you CR is the best. The vast majority of knowledgable soccer people, the managers/coaches and players then self around the best leagues in the world will tell you CR is hands down the greatest footballer, Bar none. I dont know what one wants to go by? flair CR, skill CR, excillrating to watch, CR, faster CR, more poewerful CR, and if stats are what proves your worth, he has all the stats over messi, stats CR. So basically it comes down to people that like messi personally they claim hes the best. Reality says a whole different ballgame.Don't get me wrong bro... the first time I saw C. Ronaldo playing for Sporting I knew he'd become a classy footballer, and he has proved it this season.

You know that us Brazilians got love for Portugal and vice-versa, and also that we Brazukas "hate" nuestros hermanos Argentinos, when it comes to football, but I can't deny that a Messi 100% fit is WAY more exciting to watch. Remember the goal he scored against Getafe? Actually last year the Top 3 footballers of the year were in this order:

1) Kaká
2) Messi
3) C. Ronaldo

[benfica64]

Don't get me wrong bro... the first time I saw C. Ronaldo playing for Sporting I knew he'd become a classy footballer, and he has proved it this season.

You know that us Brazilians got love for Portugal and vice-versa, and also that we Brazukas "hate" nuestros hermanos Argentinos, when it comes to football, but I can't deny that a Messi 100% fit is WAY more exciting to watch. Remember the goal he scored against Getafe? Actually last year the Top 3 footballers of the year were in this order:

1) Kaká
2) Messi
3) C. Ronaldo

Having one moment too shine dont nearly make you the best player in the world, in fact Bro I can dig up vidoes of fairly unknown players and some well known players that have done amasing things In a ONE game scenerio, does that mean they are the best??? hardly, and not even close. Messi is a great talent, but he is simply not the best player in the world and not because I say it nor because of my ethnic, facts simply speak for themselfs. In fact messi when fit as been left off the barca squad!! thats a fact, another fact is you cant compare the value to each others club. CR is what makes Man U tick among all them great Players on manchester, he is still the main incredient, still the one they need to make it run, messi has no such importance for his club as CR has for is. Try and sell CR today and messi today and see the difference in the market value. I mean I can go on forever with factual reasons why CR is simply better, clear cut and above messi. But everyone has their opinions, such as cole :lol:

[I Am Legend]

The bottom line is this...CR has way, way, way more end product than Messi or Kaka. This is what the game is all about and CR wins hands down as the best player in the world. Mind you he does have Rooney and Tevez to be thankful to!

[Gavmundo]

Well we'll see when the awards are handed out. Kaka has done nothing this season so you can be sure he's not the best. Messi has had a decent run but I think if Man U win the CL it will be obvious who's best. You are rated on what you have won!

Everyone has their own favourites and football is a fickle thing. Fans of opposition teams won't accept the player from an opposition team is better than their favourites so we leave it up to the players, writers etc to vote for their best.

Ronaldo is the best at the moment. You can't rate these things on individual performances it's about how they have helped their team win things.

[I Am Legend]

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Joe Cole has told Lionel Messi he would love to team up with him at Chelsea - and taunted Cristiano Ronaldo by saying the Argentina star has proved he is the world's best.

Chelsea have been linked with Barcelona attacker Messi on a number of occasions as Roman Abramovich apparently looks to inject more flair into the club, and Cole admits he would relish the opportunity to play alongside the youngster.

And ahead of next week's UEFA Champions League final, Cole has told Ronaldo that Messi proved he was the better player when the sides met in the previous round.

"I think they are both great players," he said. "Ronaldo has been fantastic, but Messi showed in the semi-final that he is the top man.

"If we could sign him, I'd love to play alongside him. He is only 20 as well - just imagine how good he will be in the next 10 years."

Meanwhile, Cole has rejected team-mate Didier Drogba's claims that the team lost the title race because of complacency.



Concentration


Referring to the amount of late goals Chelsea conceded, the Ivory Coast striker said it was 'certainly proof of an excess of complacency and a lack of concentration on our part'.

But Cole insists that all teams make mistakes and Manchester United came out on top because they were the better side.

"The best team win the Premier League - it is as simple as that.

"Manchester United would have dropped points they shouldn't have too. We just have to put it to bed and get on with things.

"We have the Champions League to play for. If you worried about every mistake you or the team had made over the course of the season, you would never sleep at night.

"Everyone has been patting us on the back for almost winning the league and getting to the Champions League final but it is about putting silverware on the table."

Joe Cole is widely known as not being the sharpest knife in the drawer! :lol:

Also, he would back Messi as Chelsea have not a cat in hells chance of signing Ronaldo...C'mon it is not difficult to work out.

[Gavmundo]

Well Chelsea are rivals. Thie players can't back a rivals player just as a Man U player couldn't back one of theirs. Not that they have anyone who's any good ;)

[I Am Legend]

Well Chelsea are rivals. Thie players can't back a rivals player just as a Man U player couldn't back one of theirs. Not that they have anyone who's any good ;)

Hmmm I think Lampard and Drogba will score tonight. At least one red card too. :shocked:

[Gavmundo]

They might score with the ladies but not on the pitch ;)

[valdanito_10]

C. Ronaldo this season has proved that his current level is above that of Messi.

All awards will be won and truly deserved by Ronaldo, how ever lets evaluate this again next seasons or in a two or three seasons.

The talent inside messi has not completely been seen due to to his injuries.

Ronaldo has had a way better season than both Messi and Kaka, when you are a creative mid the stats dont lie, but this does not make him the BEST, but the best player OF THE SEASON!

[Gunner]

^ hit the nail on the head

[benfica64]

Well we'll see when the awards are handed out. Kaka has done nothing this season so you can be sure he's not the best. Messi has had a decent run but I think if Man U win the CL it will be obvious who's best. You are rated on what you have won!

Everyone has their own favourites and football is a fickle thing. Fans of opposition teams won't accept the player from an opposition team is better than their favourites so we leave it up to the players, writers etc to vote for their best.

Ronaldo is the best at the moment. You can't rate these things on individual performances it's about how they have helped their team win things.


Another important goal by CR in the finals. Nothing really left to be said. Good post.

[benfica64]

Hmmm I think Lampard and Drogba will score tonight. At least one red card too. :shocked:

Well bro yu were right about the red card :lol: droba for slapping!!!

[SE7E]

Having one moment too shine dont nearly make you the best player in the world, in fact Bro I can dig up vidoes of fairly unknown players and some well known players that have done amasing things In a ONE game scenerio, does that mean they are the best???
No doubt, but why then only Maradona has scored a goal like that?

hardly, and not even close. Messi is a great talent, but he is simply not the best player in the world and not because I say it nor because of my ethnic, facts simply speak for themselfs.I didn't say he's the best in the world, I said that I find him more "fun to watch" than C. Ronaldo, that's all.

In fact messi when fit as been left off the barca squad!! thats a fact, another fact is you cant compare the value to each others club. CR is what makes Man U tick among all them great Players on manchester, he is still the main incredient, still the one they need to make it run, messi has no such importance for his club as CR has for is.Name one game that a 100% fit Messi has been benched. Also, ask any Barcelonista about his importance to the team; Ronaldinho used to be the one, now it's Messi for Barcelona as C. Ronaldo is for Manchester.

Try and sell CR today and messi today and see the difference in the market value. Anelka is the most expensive player of all time - is he really that good?

I mean I can go on forever with factual reasons why CR is simply better, clear cut and above messi. But everyone has their opinions, such as cole :lol:C. Ronaldo is by far the best player of this season indeed, and he showed it today scoring a beautiful goal (as usual), but instead of Messi and C. Ronaldo I would choose a 100% focused and fit Ronaldinho any day ;)

[SE7E]

C. Ronaldo this season has proved that his current level is above that of Messi.

All awards will be won and truly deserved by Ronaldo, how ever lets evaluate this again next seasons or in a two or three seasons.

The talent inside messi has not completely been seen due to to his injuries.

Ronaldo has had a way better season than both Messi and Kaka, when you are a creative mid the stats dont lie, but this does not make him the BEST, but the best player OF THE SEASON!:thumb:

[benfica64]

No doubt, but why then only Maradona has scored a goal like that?

I didn't say he's the best in the world, I said that I find him more "fun to watch" than C. Ronaldo, that's all.

Name one game that a 100% fit Messi has been benched. Also, ask any Barcelonista about his importance to the team; Ronaldinho used to be the one, now it's Messi for Barcelona as C. Ronaldo is for Manchester.

Anelka is the most expensive player of all time - is he really that good?

C. Ronaldo is by far the best player of this season indeed, and he showed it today scoring a beautiful goal (as usual), but instead of Messi and C. Ronaldo I would choose a 100% focused and fit Ronaldinho any day ;)


Being clearly the best this season of any player, would clearly make him the best footballer, even if we want to say this season. That is what Iam saying He is the best footballer in the world, Not the best ever to play the game. Not that 10 years from now he may not gain that tittle or at least one of the very best to ever play the game. To answer your qestion about maradonna!! Pele in one game took the ball from is own goal line and went all the way (without passing) to the other end and scored a goal. That has never been duplicated, nor do I think it ever will, the only reason I think they make a big stink about maradonna trick pony in that game was because it was in a world cup.

[SE7E]

Being clearly the best this season of any player, would clearly make him the best footballer, even if we want to say this season. That is what Iam saying He is the best footballer in the world, Not the best ever to play the game. Not that 10 years from now he may not gain that tittle or at least one of the very best to ever play the game. To answer your qestion about maradonna!! Pele in one game took the ball from is own goal line and went all the way (without passing) to the other end and scored a goal. That has never been duplicated, nor do I think it ever will, the only reason I think they make a big stink about maradonna trick pony in that game was because it was in a world cup.No doubt C. Ronaldo is by FAR the best of the season, and IMO already a Top 5 ever for Portugal:

1) Eusébio
2) Futre
3) Figo
4) Rui Costa
5) C. Ronaldo

l'd love to see him being succesful this summer in Austria/Switzerland.

About the goal, now you were a little unfair, we can't compare Pelé to any other footballer ever :thumb:

[benfica64]

No doubt C. Ronaldo is by FAR the best of the season, and IMO already a Top 5 ever for Portugal:

1) Eusébio
2) Futre
3) Figo
4) Rui Costa
5) C. Ronaldo

l'd love to see him being succesful this summer in Austria/Switzerland.

About the goal, now you were a little unfair, we can't compare Pelé to any other footballer ever :thumb:

No we cant compare, Pele is simply the greatest player to ever lace a pair of soccer cleats. Period. The same logic goes with pele and the maradonna debate as with messi and Cr but to a much higher lever (maradonna and pele) the thing is maradonna was an exceptional player no doubt, but Pele was a supreme player. Every stat proves this in peles favor, after all stats basically is a big part of what makes you great. Naturally skill and everything in between does as well, and Pele had an abundance of natural skill. People then take into account different era and say Oh maraddona played in an era where the players were tougher faster stronger and more skilled etc etc, the defence was better etc, well if thats what u go by some 20 years later in our time now we can make a claim for Cr and the mess's of today having it tougher? So does this mean they are ultimately Better??? NO!!

Some are Born to be the greatest = Pele

[nelly]

No we cant compare, Pele is simply the greatest player to ever lace a pair of soccer cleats. Period. The same logic goes with pele and the maradonna debate as with messi and Cr but to a much higher lever (maradonna and pele) the thing is maradonna was an exceptional player no doubt, but Pele was a supreme player. Every stat proves this in peles favor, after all stats basically is a big part of what makes you great. Naturally skill and everything in between does as well, and Pele had an abundance of natural skill. People then take into account different era and say Oh maraddona played in an era where the players were tougher faster stronger and more skilled etc etc, the defence was better etc, well if thats what u go by some 20 years later in our time now we can make a claim for Cr and the mess's of today having it tougher? So does this mean they are ultimately Better??? NO!!

Some are Born to be the greatest = Pele

I agree.

For me these two are Sporting untouchables

PELE

ALI

Two spportsman who are without doubt the best that has ever been, and as yet cannot be touched by any other.

[Gavmundo]

C. Ronaldo this season has proved that his current level is above that of Messi.

All awards will be won and truly deserved by Ronaldo, how ever lets evaluate this again next seasons or in a two or three seasons.

The talent inside messi has not completely been seen due to to his injuries.

Ronaldo has had a way better season than both Messi and Kaka, when you are a creative mid the stats dont lie, but this does not make him the BEST, but the best player OF THE SEASON!

Quite true to be the best you have to sustain it but I think the comparision can only be judged on current form. Injuries happen, sometimes you maybe a great player but the team is struggling. No player is a one man team. You can make a difference but if your team isn't playing well it can affect your own form. Fact is though, this season, Ronaldo has been the best. whether he can sustain that remains to be seen. I'm sure Messi and Kaka will be on top form again next season. As it stands though Ronaldo is both the best in Europe and best in the world.

[benfica64]

Quite true to be the best you have to sustain it but I think the comparision can only be judged on current form. Injuries happen, sometimes you maybe a great player but the team is struggling. No player is a one man team. You can make a difference but if your team isn't playing well it can affect your own form. Fact is though, this season, Ronaldo has been the best. whether he can sustain that remains to be seen. I'm sure Messi and Kaka will be on top form again next season. As it stands though Ronaldo is both the best in Europe and best in the world.

Couldnt agree more. He may very well be the best for many years to come, or he may not be, but as we speak he is certainly the best football/soccer player on planet Earth.

[benfica64]

I agree.

For me these two are Sporting untouchables

PELE

ALI

Two spportsman who are without doubt the best that has ever been, and as yet cannot be touched by any other.

Ali another great athlete, boxing has never been even close since his departure from the sport. Ali N Frazier Oh dem were da days. The gorilla in manilla, as it was said lol

[SE7E]

No we cant compare, Pele is simply the greatest player to ever lace a pair of soccer cleats. Period. The same logic goes with pele and the maradonna debate as with messi and Cr but to a much higher lever (maradonna and pele) the thing is maradonna was an exceptional player no doubt, but Pele was a supreme player. Every stat proves this in peles favor, after all stats basically is a big part of what makes you great. Naturally skill and everything in between does as well, and Pele had an abundance of natural skill. People then take into account different era and say Oh maraddona played in an era where the players were tougher faster stronger and more skilled etc etc, the defence was better etc, well if thats what u go by some 20 years later in our time now we can make a claim for Cr and the mess's of today having it tougher? So does this mean they are ultimately Better??? NO!!

Some are Born to be the greatest = PeleGREAT comments :hail:

[Wabbit]

why this threads always ended up talking about pele or maradona?? cant u ppl leave them in the past?? o.O