Look on the bright side

[Ivan]

Isn't it better now that we don't qualify and have 2 years to concentrate and dedicate our time to building a top quality team for Euro 2004..... then qualify for WC '02, slime our way through the group stage by beating Senegal 2-1 and Ecuador 1-0 and then only to get trounced 4-1 by a decent European side in the 2nd round of the competition.

Sometimes it's better to sacrifice tomorrow for the day after!

And to the little Austri.... errr Slovenians that managed to hold onto a tie in Belgrade - I congratulate your full hearted effort, and I will be cheering for you if you make it to the WC :p ;) I always cheer for the underdog :thumbsup:

[PFC]

I agree with you..Although I would have liked more to miss out on an EC than WC. :( Its also said that Mijatovic, Djorovic, Jokanovic, Miha, Drulovic and Jugovic will end their nt careers like this. I think they should all play their final match against Luxembourg to atleast retire from the nt as gentlemen.

Here's a great article from glas-javnosti:

Reprezentacija Jugoslavije sinoæ igrala nerešeno sa Slovenijom (1:1) i praktièno se oprostila od Mondijala
Daleki Istok

Za eventualni plasman u Japan i Južnu Koreju ostala puka teorija: da Slovenija kod kuæe igra nerešeno s Farskim Ostrvima...
Daleko je izlazeæe sunce... Još je dalji Daleki Istok, Japan i Južna Koreja. Iz beogradskog mraka cela jedna generacija jugoslovenskih fudbalera otišla je u fudbalski mrak, ispraæena kišom i visoko uzdignutim rukama Slovenaca. Zasluženo ili ne, više nije bitno jer u kvalifikacionoj grupi evropske zone plavima ostaje samo san koji verovatno nikada neæe dosanjati: da Farani u ribarskoj mreži odnesu bod iz Ljubljane...

Mondijal 2002. godine samo æemo gledati posle sinoænjih 1:1. I baš to je najgore: Jugoslavija nije poražena ali je izgubila. Od Slovenaca, onih s kojima smo pod istom zastavom živeli 73 godine, od Sreæka Kataneca koji je u plavom dresu pre nešto više od decenije krèio i raskrèio put do svetskog sajma fudbala u Italiji... Èudni su putevi gospodnji, a još èudnijih su 90 minuta opsade gola heroja utakmice Marka Simeunoviæa.

Zvezda na zalasku Predrag Mijatoviæ odigrao je jednu od utakmica života. Veliki Peða je radio šta je hteo, po izrovanom travnjaku Partizanovog stadiona gde je stekao fudbalsko ime vezivao je protivnièke igraèe u nerazmrsiv èvor, proigravao saigraèe, ulazio u šanse, ali jednostavno, nije mu se dalo da na kraljevsku partiju spusti krunu. Trebalo je da kao kapiten pogodi i povede plave na Mondijal. Ovako, još jedan veliki as se oprostio, a uz njega sa reprezentativne scene silaze Miroslav Ðukiæ, Slaviša Jokanoviæ, Goran Ðoroviæ, LJubinko Druloviæ, a nogu su veæ povukli Dragan Stojkoviæ, Vladimir Jugoviæ... Oni koji treba da ih zamene samo na momente pokazuju da to i mogu. Sinoæ je maštom i kreativnošæu plenio Ðorðeviæ, ogromnim srcem i znanjem Savo Miloševiæ, ali zato nismo imali odseèenog i nedoreèenog Kežmana, pa Lazetiæa koji je mnogo hteo, a malo uradio, dok Gvozdenoviæ i Stankoviæ sa klupe nisu uneli ama baš ništa.


Ipak, generalno, Jugoslavija je odigrala možda i najbolju utakmicu u kvalifkkacijama za Mondijal. Ni rano voðstvo Slovenaca, plod uspavanosti naše odbrane, nije pokolebalo naš tim, napadali su, imali igru, ali su šanse došle tek u drugom poluvremenu. A, nastavak je poèeo sjajno... Ðorðeviæ je izmenio dupli pas s Miloševiæ i matirao sinoæ fantastiènog Simeunoviæa. Bilo je još 38 minuta do kraja, obruè se stezao, ali su šanse Mijatoviæa i Miloševiæa u nekoliko navrata završavale u rukama Simeunoviæa, kasnije i Dabanoviæa. Uz sve, ne sme da se zaboravi ni nepraviènost èuvenog španskog arbitra Lopeza Nijeta. Uz asistenciju pomoænika seckao je igru našeg tima kad god je bilo prilike usmeravao tok meèa na vodenicu Slovenaca kojima se ipak ne može ništa zameriti. I posle devet meèeva su ostali neporaženi, imaju zrelu i uigranu ekipu, kojoj je balkanski šarm udahnuo Katanec koji ih eto posle evropskog samita, vodi i u predvorje svetskog prvenstva.

Congrats to Mijat for playing his heart out.. We have to admit in all big matches for our national team he was fantastic. I know I have bashed him many times for diving and being slow but I will surely miss him along with the rest of the oldies. :(

[Ivan]

Originally posted by PFC
Its also said that Mijatovic, Djorovic, Jokanovic, Miha, Drulovic and Jugovic will end their nt careers like this. I think they should all play their final match against Luxembourg to atleast retire from the nt as gentlemen.

Congrats to Mijat for playing his heart out.. We have to admit in all big matches for our national team he was fantastic. I know I have bashed him many times for diving and being slow but I will surely miss him along with the rest of the oldies. :(

What the hell are you talking about??? No one's gonna miss those primadonna's!! Time for guys like Ilic, Kezman, Krstajic, Pjanovic, Bunjevcevic, Bogdanovic, Belic, Osmanovic, etc.. to step up and take over. These guys are the future! I have no sympathy for the oldies anymore - they had their chance and their time. That's our problem that we always try to hold onto the past! F*ck the past! I look towards the future for inspiration.

Yes, all these oldies should play one last time against Luxemburg and lose!!

:red-card:

[red star forever]

To tell you the truth, I don't really have that much faith in the young players anymore, they just don't seem to be 'star' material.
But anyway, if there is anything good about this, it is the fact that we are getting rid of Mihajlovic, Djukic, Jokanovic, Jugovic, Mijatovic, Drulovic and the rest..
It is time for a replacement, and this period up to the qualifiers for EURO 2004 must be used to prepare a new young team, with fresh faces and hopefully a new coach.

Here's the team of the future:

---------------------------Ilic(Avramov)

Mirkovic-------------Bunjevcevic--------------------Djorovic

-------------------------Duljaj

Lazetic----------Ilic------------Stankovic---------Djordjevic


------------Milosevic(Drulic) ----------- Kezman

[OAnimal]

Ivan, thank you for cheering for us. We will try to do our best, as we did last night. First, we have to beat the Faroes, which won't be easy since 4 players are suspended and other 4 are injured. But I still believe we can do it. As we can do it against Romania. I hope to see you on Euro2004.

[ZZ TOP]

Ivan, jaz bom napisal kar po Slovensko in verjamem,da boš razumel.
Hvala, za pohvale, èe bomo še naprej igrali tako kot proti vam vèeraj uspeh ne more izostati!

[Matt]

Originally posted by PFC
Uz sve, ne sme da se zaboravi ni nepraviènost èuvenog španskog arbitra Lopeza Nijeta.

Tipièna balkanska miselnost... seveda je bil kriv sodnik... pa ne sam to..tud igrišèe, SLO navijaèi, ki jih je blo veè kot 10%, žoga je bila preveè spolzka... a sem kaj pozabil?

[Petko]

OAnimal the game is in early October right?

Most likely those 4 players will recover by than...:rolleyes: :mad: :eek: ;)

[Ivan]

RSF - the question is not whether we have faith in the young players or whether they can ever be "stars"... the fact is, that unless we give them a chance we'll never find out. Time and time again we have forgiven our players because they are "stars" and because in a game 3 years ago they gave their full-hearted effort so we hope that it'll happen again!

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! :stop: :yield: :red-card:

Maybe the next generation won't be any better... so we just change to the next generation after that... and we keep changing and demanding better results until we get them!

Our problem seems to be that we are always satisfied with the 'average'. That's not the way to go about! We MUST always demand perfection! If we aim for that stars, and fall - at least we'll fall to the moon. If we aim for the moon and fall - we'll just fall back down to earth.... you get what I'm trying to say????

[Walter BC]

With your arogant attitude there is no bright side for you!

[ZAVO]

I AM SORRY FOR YOU LITTLE SERBIANS, BUT THE BETTER AND GREATER TEAM KICK YOU AWAY FROM WC2002!
WE ARE THE TEAM WITH HEART AND YOU CAN SHAKE MY HAND, BECUSE OUR DRAW WAS REGULAR!

[ZZ TOP]

Ja dragi Srbi, navaditi se bo treba tudi izgubljati. Spomnim se èasov stare Jugoslavije, ko kaj ni šlo so bili krivi za vse drugi. Sedaj pa je še vedno tako. Hej, fantje pa kaj, èe bi vi poiskali še malo krivde na vaši strani. Ali so vaši res odigrali briljantno? Ne. niso, niso dali še enega gola. Kaj je tu kriv sodnik? Kaj so krivi Slovenci? Ha, ali ste mislili , da vas bodo Naši fantje kar pustili v gol. Po vaših reakcijah oèitno ste. Ampak fantje èasi se spreminjajo. V Sloveniji je že dalj èasa najbolj uspešen šport nogomet. In hvala Bogu ( Sreèku ) smo že boljši kot vi.
No dovolj nakladanja, mislim, da ste že živèni pred polfinalno tekmo v košarki.
Ali pa to vendarle ni tako pomembno, saj je košarka v sbvetu šele šport številka 2!!!
Vseeno pa kaj vam pa spoloh še preostane.

[Matt]

Ej, ZZ, pa ka nisi vedu, da je njihovo jokanje upravièeno. (sarkazem...)... Bog (Sreèko) jim paè ni namenu sreèe.... haha, èe to ni ironièno.

Pa, ej, ta Simeunoviè je sigurn mel neke posebne rokavice, da niso Jugosi dal gola, Rudonja je zavlaèeval pa se delu da ma zlaman nos, da ne omenimo gola Milinovièa, kjer je bil offside, sudji pa je dal Zahoviè 1000 DEM v žep, da je pustu gol... to je Jugoslovanska razlaga dogodkov na tekmi... sm blizu? PFC... prosim za tvoj veleumni odgovor...

[Ivan]

zavo - you are a team with heart, but heart alone won't get you far. The only reason you will finish ahead of us is because our NT is made up of a bunch of primadonnas who don't care about the country but care about their weekly paychecks! You may squeek through Romania (doubtful) in the playoffs but you will get trounced from the first round (just like in Euro2000). It will be a great achievement if you manage to make it into the 2nd round!

[Matthias]

Originally posted by Ivan
Isn't it better now that we don't qualify and have 2 years to concentrate and dedicate our time to building a top quality team for Euro 2004..... then qualify for WC '02, slime our way through the group stage by beating Senegal 2-1 and Ecuador 1-0 and then only to get trounced 4-1 by a decent European side in the 2nd round of the competition.

Sometimes it's better to sacrifice tomorrow for the day after!

And to the little Austri.... errr Slovenians that managed to hold onto a tie in Belgrade - I congratulate your full hearted effort, and I will be cheering for you if you make it to the WC :p ;) I always cheer for the underdog :thumbsup:

Hell, we are always underdogs, even if we beat Yugoslavia 6-0 last match, you would still be 'favorites' the next match!!!

Thanks for the support.... I respect that, but I dont respect people on this board that are sore losers, hell I would be pissed too if you guys won, but still, blaming the 'mafia'? you still have a chance to beat us if we lose to the Faroes......Oh god that would be humiliating.....

[Matt]

however if we lose to Faroes, we really don't deserve the 2nd spot...

[Matthias]

I agree

[Garrincha]

Originally posted by red star forever

It is time for a replacement, and this period up to the qualifiers for EURO 2004 must be used to prepare a new young team, with fresh faces and hopefully a new coach.

Here's the team of the future:

---------------------------Ilic(Avramov)

Mirkovic-------------Bunjevcevic--------------------Djorovic

-------------------------Duljaj

Lazetic----------Ilic------------Stankovic---------Djordjevic


------------Milosevic(Drulic) ----------- Kezman

This brought to my mind something many Brazilians wonder about...

Why doesn't Yugo's coach ever call up Dejan Petkovic, who plays for Flamengo (used to play for Venezia, and before that for Brazil's Vitoria and Real madrid)? He's a quality player, a master in freekicks (Zico has rated him as one of the greatest free-kickers he'd ever seen, and THAT's saying something), a great offensive midfielder. He's very respected in Brazil, playing at a top level - and the Brazilian championship is harsh, let me tell you. I simply don't believe this guy doesn't fit in the national squad.

He says he's forgotten because he doesn't play in Europe, but he repeatedly states his dream of defending his country. Is he considered a bad player somehow? I mean, he's lethal on dead balls, he's scored at least two olympic goals that I've seen (y'know, when a corner kick goes directly in the goal), he distributes the ball very well. Does this guy have no use to the national team?

Just wondering.

[Garrincha]

And on a somewhat unrelated note:

Rio de Janeiro's Botafogo (the club I support, the club badge is below my name :D ) has hired a yugoslav defensive midfielder called Vladimir Petkovic; and Fluminense (also from Rio) hired a goalie called Nicola Damjanac and a striker called Miodrag Andjelkovic.

This sudden interest in Yugoslav talent was caused by the great performances of Dejan Petkovic. My question is, are these guys any good?

Botafogo's Vlad Petkovic hasn't been playing because only two foreign players are allowed in Brazil, and the team uses an Uruguayan striker and a Peruvian mid already. But is Vlad good?

[Matt]

No, you see, quality doesn't mean shit, when it comes to Yugoslav national team. All that is important is, what they had done in the past...

[red star forever]

Hi Garrinca and welcome,


first of all about Petkovic - well of course I would love to see him in our team it is just that I have completely given up any hope this guy will ever be called up, because our coach absolutely never even mentions him..:(
Why?? I don't know, it is simply one of those questions you can't answer..
Andjelkovic is an OK striker, he can do some damage but mind you the most damage he has done is in the weak Yugo league so I am not sure how he will fit in when it comes to playing in Brazil.
Damjanac is a typical Yugo keeper, OK but nothing special.
And I have never heard of Vladimir Petkovic , probably my fault..:D


C ya!

[Matthias]

I can understand why the Yugoslav coach would not call up any players playing outside of Europe..... I mean, the best of the best play in Europe.

[red star forever]

Yes, Mathias, but being one of the best players in the Brazilian league and in a club such as Flamengo is not something to underestimate.
Don't forget that most of the future world stars come from this league..

[Matthias]

Yeah, Brazilians, not Yugoslavs... name one european star that became a star outside of europe...

[red star forever]

Well that is my point, Petkovic has achieved that, he has become a star in Brazil, and that deserves respect.
I mean, even if he played for our NT maybe he would disappoint, but I am quite sure he at least deserves a chance.

[Matthias]

Your right, I would play him, Yugoslavia has nothing to lose now, and they should play some players outside of the usual line-ups..

who knows, he might be a great player for the NT

just look at Sebastjan Cimerotic for Slovene NT.... he was playing for Hapeol Tel-Aviv a couple of years ago and now he is a NT regular playing for Lecce in Serie A

I mean, just because a player doesnt play for a big club doesnt mean he is a bad player, and thats Yugoslavia's mistake, they only play guys with "big names" and big clubs....

[Walter BC]

Ivan, that's the spirit. I have to say, that I like anyone who shows atleast some respect.
As someone allready mentioned, you have to take care of your own problems first.

[Matthias]

Originally posted by Walter BC
Ivan, that's the spirit. I have to say, that I like anyone who shows atleast some respect.
As someone allready mentioned, you have to take care of your own problems first.

Exactly, no excuses

[Garrincha]

Technically Flamengo is a "big" club: They have a huge supporter's base (The club with the largest number of supporters in Brazil; and there's only ONE club in the whole world with more supporters, and that's in China - FIFA statistics), and several National Team players (Brazil's Juan, Vampeta, Beto - who formerly played for Napoli - Edilson, for instance). There's also a huge youth-team structure, so they're always spinning up new talent (Zico, Djalminha, Leonardo, Aldair, Bebeto, all came from Flamengo's youth).

Their problem is disorganization, but then that's the problem with 80% of all Brazilian clubs. We're a mess. :D

[OAnimal]

Cetnik, the players that are injured in our NT, will recover, except Zahovic, which means a lot.

Ivan, you say we would go out in first round in WC. Might be, but remember that in Euro2000, we needed only to receive one goal less than we did against you and we would be in quarter-finals. I believe that slightly more experienced team would never let the 3:0 lead slip out of their hands and I believe our boys have learned the lesson. Plus, I bet that we would never lose 6:1 to Holland. OK, we would lose 2:0 or 3:0, but not 6:1. Losing 6:1 in a Euro quarter-finals is humiliating, sorry.

As for Dejan Petkovic, I remember him playing for Red Star, and he was great player. But so are others, Mijatovic, Milosevic, Kezman, Stankovic... They are all great players, but a good team needs more than just 11 great players. It needs a team spirit - which we have, and you probably don't.

[Ivan]

Originally posted by OAnimal
I believe that slightly more experienced team would never let the 3:0 lead slip out of their hands

Yup, I believe the same. Even I was shocked that you could have let that happen!

Originally posted by OAnimal
Plus, I bet that we would never lose 6:1 to Holland. OK, we would lose 2:0 or 3:0, but not 6:1.

Well that's real easy to say now.

Originally posted by OAnimal
Losing 6:1 in a Euro quarter-finals is humiliating, sorry.

Yes it is! :mad: :mad:

Originally posted by OAnimal
It needs a team spirit - which we have, and you probably don't.

We don't have team spirit. But then on the flip side, you don't have 11 individualy talented players as we do. So... you have what we want, and we have what you want :fangs: :evil:

[Matthias]

Originally posted by Garrincha
and there's only ONE club in the whole world with more supporters, and that's in China - FIFA statistics),

HAHAHAHA you're calling a chinese club 'big'??? please tell me one decent player that plays there! I meant big as in talent and $$ not people! Hell then we can call India and China the biggest football countries in the world!!!

Flamengo is big, but what I meant with a big club is big $$$.... not by number of supporters!

[Garrincha]

I'm not calling a chinese club big.

And there's a difference between being big on $$ and big on talent. When Manchester united came to Brazil for the World Club Cup, they were flattened by Romario's Vasco on Maracanã Stadium. I was there, and Stam in particular was really mistreated by the veteran Brazilian striker.

[OAnimal]

Originally posted by Ivan

We don't have team spirit. But then on the flip side, you don't have 11 individualy talented players as we do. So... you have what we want, and we have what you want :fangs: :evil:
I agree on that. That's probably why our team is approximately as good as yours. In these qualifycations, we did less mistakes than you - weighting exactly one point. :)

Thus you have no reason to say:"We are so much better than Slovenia, just being unlucky". (I am not aiming at your statements, to be precise).

[Garrincha]

Originally posted by Ivan
We don't have team spirit. But then on the flip side, you don't have 11 individualy talented players as we do. So... you have what we want, and we have what you want :fangs: :evil:

Of course, you can turn eleven talented players into a team, but you can't give talent to eleven workhorses, no matter how "tight" their teamwork is.

They'll be a hard-working untalented eleven all their lives.:D

[Matt]

BAHA, very funny. Garrincha, call the Slovenian players untalented after you see them in an actual match and not by what you read on the damn Yugoslav board,.... capiche?

[Garrincha]

I wasn't referring to the Slovenians in particular. I was talking theoretically; if u have eleven talents who aren't a team, and a tight-playing team formed by eleven untalented guys, you can teach the talents to be a team, but not the other way 'round. Read that as you like, but I have never even seen the Slovenian squad. Good luck with them!:thumbsup:

I was actually thinking about a certain south american four-worldcup-winning squad, with dozens of talents but no team. They might learn to behave as a team, though. Sometime before WC '2006...:dontcare:

[red star forever]

Actually, apart from maybe Zahovic, you are a team of 11 very fit workhorses. :D

[mitja]

Yeah RSF you are right...not.
And look who is talking, some Yugoslavs who have the most talented goalkeeper in the world. Yes you are right I'm talking about Ivica Kralj, the king between the posts. His reflections and parades can not be bescribed. Yes he has so much talent that Oli Kahn, Barthez,... aren't even close to him. :sick:
You are so full of yourself. Grow up! :annoyed:

[red star forever]

Mitja, this is not the case of "growing up" or "not growing up", it is a fact, the Slovenians have a very harmonious, hard working team, but that is about it.
Of course, in these qualifiers that has proven to be more valuable than a bunch of stars in disarray, which is normal since football really is a team sport.
However, we certainly have more potential, because Slovenia have, thanks to very good coaching, reached their maximum potential, we have yet to do that, which is why our future I believe is going to be more successful than yours. Besides, look at Ireland, thanks to fantastic team work they have succeeded in edging Holland out of the WC, however only a lunatic could really say they have more talent in their team than the Dutch.

And trust me, in a few years, it will be Holland at the top of world football, not Ireland.
The same thing goes for Yugo and Slovenia, only maybe we might not reach the very top. :)

[mitja]

Yes I agree with you, but I am sick and tired of putin down Slovenian NT. Afterall you had your chance to prove you are better on the field, but you did't took it. And yes you have some talented players, but let me remind you, YUG, even before '91, has always had very talented players, but to may astimation, never reached the result which would prove that enourmous talent. Was (is) a problem a coach? Well I don't think so, the problem is that your so called suprestars, which are all very good football players, doesn't play with heart for your NT. They all, and here are no exceptions, show they best plays with their clubs. And the vica versa stands for our players.
Maybe you are not looking in the rigt direction to resolve this problem, maybe you should offer your players some $$? I don't know, but to me the player who doesn't give his 101% on the field for his country doesn't deserve to called up to the squad.

But that's just my opinion.

[ZAVO]

Oh, you little stupid Yugoslavians, are you still crying?:cry:
Who cares now who has a talented team and who not?
We kick you out of your pants and that is the fact! Nothing else count! You can now discuss about us, but you will not see Tokio, and that is why am i happy! :D
I cant believe how stupid you are!
Look back into the year 1999! Who was playing 90 minute defense football in Zagreb? No, that was not Slovenia, it was you, you little bastards, and than you draw, and you were crying, so happy you were! Think about that! :boo:
You always think that you are the best, but you are a bunch of "shqipethari"! ***k you!:smallpig:

[red star forever]

Zavo, you see, that is where you are wrong.
Slovenia didn't kick us out of the WC, we kicked ourselves out.
If we were playing in these qualifiers the way we should have, then Slovenia wouldn't have stopped us, no matter how big their heart.

[Matt]

OH, C'mon, RSF...

You know what is the GENERAL public's problem with our (Slovenian) national team? Not the fact that they DON'T have talent, cause they do, at least some of it, but the fact that they were annonimous for the major part of their careers. Even if a Slovenian player was good, before independance, he was considered a Yugoslavian.. that's why Yugoslav players sell so well these days... Croats and Slovenians helped them a lot...

So, now, our players are at the stage, where they are considered "hard working, but not talented"... yeah, mmmkay, just gimme a break. They are talented, just not recognized.

[ZAVO]

Prav maš Matt, jebo te...:thumbsup:

Zato sem pa tebe volil na poll-u!

[ZZ TOP]

Opa, opaaa, Jugovièi so si kar na enkrat sami krivi, da ne gredo na SP. Kdo bi si mislil. Še kak dan nazaj so bili vsi krivi samo oni ne.
Kako se veter v Jugi hitro obraèa. Sedaj se res ne èudim zakaj je sklatil Edvarda Rusijana.

[OAnimal]

I agree that Yugoslavia has more talent than our national team. But to say that we reached maximum and you still have room to improve, is not serious. How do you know we reached our maximum? And how do you know you can play better than you did against us?

I totally agree with Matt, many of our players are underestimated in their clubs. Zahovic is better than any of your players, but look, he plays for Benfica, while Kovacevic plays for Lazio, Milosevic for Parma, etc. Why? Because he is from Slovenia. Would he be from Brazil or Argentina, he would be playing for Barcelona or Real Madrid right now.

We sure have some "workhorses" like Rudonja, Karic, maybe Osterc and Ceh... But look on the others:
Simeunovic is at least as good as Kralj, but I prefer to think he is better.
Galic is not as good as Djukic, but the other two defenders, Knavs and Milinovic are really good, better than any of your defenders. Just pay attention on Knavs, I bet he will end in a big European team in a year or two. Mainly because of them, we are very good in the air. I don't remember when we allowed the last goal scored with the header.
Then, we have Pavlin in midfield, which I can evaluate on level terms as Djordjevic, the same goes for Novak and Jokanovic.
I already said about Zahovic, and in attack we have Cimerotic, who may not be as good as Kezman, but against us, Kezman always played like shit - a big shit. Of course, your players Milosevic, Lazetic, and maybe some other, are better than ours in their respective positions, but if you summarize all this, you see that in fact there is not such a big difference in talent as you would like it to be. Adding the talent of coaches would make the difference even smaller (I don't understand why Savicevic played Kezman on such a field. Kezman needs good pitch, where he can use his speed. Would Kovacevic played from the beginning, we would run into more problems - and the same goes with Drulovic - but these are not our problems :))

[ZZ TOP]

Ah OAnimal, nehaj se prerekati s temi cepci, ker jim ne boš prišel do konca. A ne vidiš, da sedaj govorijo tako, èez pet minut, ti bodo pa tupili èisto nekaj drugega.