China is a horrible Red Extrimist Communist country with no human rights!

[soccerexpert]

and then
NO GRAPHIC images!!!! links ONLY with a warning!!!

[Sema]

Dude, what the ***k?? Those pictures are very graphic, and I don't think you should just post that shit on here? It is away from soccer, but you're going too far. Plus, when are those picutres from? 70's?

[only123123]

http://nixkorea.com.ne.kr/bizarre_gif/cruelty_china1.jpg
http://nixkorea.com.ne.kr/bizarre_gif/cruelty_china2.jpg
http://nixkorea.com.ne.kr/bizarre_gif/cruelty_china3.jpg

and then

[IMG]

That's gross! I know that Chinese government is so rubbish.
As far as I heard, Chineses killed 135,000 of Tibetans. Chineses are very vile!

[Andygers]

Why are there 2 threads for the same thing???????

[FootballSpy007]

This is literally the most sickest thing I have ever seen in my life. There could be minors viewing this. Take this disgusting thing off at once!!!

[CambriaFan]

OMG thats sick. The last images are far too graphic and made me feel sick looking at them. I know there's guys of 13/14 and younger on the forum and they shouldn't be able to click and see this- not knowing whats in the thread... in fact no-one should...

[Sema]

Ban soccerexpert as well. I've not seen one post by him that has to do with soccer. It's all bashing countries he doesn't like.

[Bosnian Unit]

What British did to Africans ?

American to Blacks ?

This is at least 50-60 years ago, and has nothing to do with todays China. They are great people, i respect them very well and dont be jeleous becouse they will be superpower #1 in 5-10 years !

Todays China .....

Beijing

http://www.hotelsbycity.net/images/travelguides/int/china/beijing-big.jpg

http://spiritualtravelman.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/beijing.jpg

Hong Kong

http://www.destination360.com/asia/china/images/s/china-hong-kong.jpg

http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/10541/Hong-Kong-Collage.jpg

http://www.virtual-cozumel.com/images/country/hong-kong.jpg

Shanghai

http://www.indagare.com/photos/0000/0237/ShanghaiHero_a_1.jpg

[Sarajbahçe]

you stupid little ****.. im eating here
dont post graphic shit on here!

[poutismalakas]

What British did to Africans ?

American to Blacks ?

This is at least 50-60 years ago, and has nothing to do with todays China. They are great people, i respect them very well and dont be jeleous becouse they will be superpower #1 in 5-10 years !

Todays China .....

Beijing

http://www.hotelsbycity.net/images/travelguides/int/china/beijing-big.jpg

http://spiritualtravelman.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/beijing.jpg

Hong Kong

http://www.destination360.com/asia/china/images/s/china-hong-kong.jpg

http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/10541/Hong-Kong-Collage.jpg

http://www.virtual-cozumel.com/images/country/hong-kong.jpg

Shanghai

http://www.indagare.com/photos/0000/0237/ShanghaiHero_a_1.jpg


There human rights record is abyssmal!!!

[Sema]

Poutis, might wanna delete the pictures in the quoted post by only123123 as well.

[Centarfor9]

I support China and Russia over Israel and their puppet USA and USA's puppet UK.

[poutismalakas]

Poutis, might wanna delete the pictures in the quoted post by only123123 as well.

I deleted the graphic pics! Those are fine! I accidentaly deleted those in the original post!

[nb-legenda]

@Sinter, me2

Israel and UK buy every shit the USA gives them.

And don't listen to idiots guys. China is the most interesting place to visit... their blend of new and old is incredible. They're the most important country in the world. Without them, the world wouldn't be as interesting. Plus, they're the most populated in the world, and if you're lucky, they won't invade you for being so effin arrogant and ignorant... bashing other people's countries.

[13Ballack13]

jebam ti chinuu u picku mater, chinese jedo govno n sve drugoo... :mad2:

[Centarfor9]

@Sinter, me2

Israel and UK buy every shit the USA gives them.

And don't listen to idiots guys. China is the most interesting place to visit... their blend of new and old is incredible. They're the most important country in the world. Without them, the world wouldn't be as interesting. Plus, they're the most populated in the world, and if you're lucky, they won't invade you for being so effin arrogant and ignorant... bashing other people's countries.
it's other way around

the way Israel goes so does USA

the way USA goes UK jumps in so they feel important lol

USA occupied Iraq for two main reasons
1. to prevent China's influence in the region (mainly the oil aspect)
2. to easily attack Iran

[nb-legenda]

No I'm talking about USA gives Israel so many things that they don't need, usually the weapons and Israel is all protected and stuff so they can kill the Muslims there. I agree with you on what you posted though. About invading Iraq in order to easily attack Iran is what I thought long time ago! lol

[FR Sloboda]

China's goverment is the worst in the world along with Zimbabwe and Cuba. The Chinese kill innocent villagers who want to have capital investment so that they can make more profits. The Chinese goverment are insane.

PS: The chinese goverment use slaughter techniques that are even worser than Milosevic's Serbia.

[FR Sloboda]

Sinter and Bosnian unit - are you guys insane - why are you supporting Russia and China? who clearly supported and took advice in killing people from Milosevic's disgusting regime.

Bosnia and USA are Together in fighting Radical Socailsm, Facism and islamic/ wahhabi Terrorism.

[Bosnian Unit]

Sinter and Bosnian unit - are you guys insane - why are you supporting Russia and China? who clearly supported and took advice in killing people from Milosevic's disgusting regime.

Bosnia and USA are Together in fighting Radical Socailsm, Facism and islamic/ wahhabi Terrorism.

Iran,China,Venezuela,Cuba,Iraqi freedom fighters :rockon:

[Bosnian Unit]

Sinter and Bosnian unit - are you guys insane - why are you supporting Russia and China? who clearly supported and took advice in killing people from Milosevic's disgusting regime.

Bosnia and USA are Together in fighting Radical Socailsm, Facism and islamic/ wahhabi Terrorism.

WRONG !

USA is BIG Israel ok, so Israelis are using USA to cover themselfs, they are controling USA, just like they did and still do Germany/Europe.

See who benefited after the WWII ? Not the Americans,Not Russians,defenitly not Germans.........Guess who did ? ZIONISTS/Israelis, who right after the WWII created their own country, moved in over 5 million people,forced out Palestinians, build nuclear weapons and now is greatest power in that region.

They will destroy USA just like they did Germany !

[Pr0s]

Thats a pretty big price to pay just for that? I mean come on, why would a nation kill 6 million of their own to get a nation for themselves?

[Bosnian Unit]

Thats a pretty big price to pay just for that? I mean come on, why would a nation kill 6 million of their own to get a nation for themselves?


Its not ''just for that'' !


They have a country today, they are the most influencal and powerfull people in the world.

The thing is it was not a 6 million !

Not even close..........


And on July 24, 1942, Hitler emphasized his determination to remove all Jews from Europe after the war: "The Jews are interested in Europe for economic reasons, but Europe must reject them, if only out of self-interest, becuase the Jews are racially tougher. After this war is over, I will rigorously hold to the view . . . that the Jews will have to leave and emigrate to Madagascar or some other Jewish national state." (H. Picker, "Hitlers Tischgesprsche im Fuhrerhauptquartier" (Stuttgart: 1976), p. 456).

There was no intention to kill them, or gas them......never happend !


QUOTE:
Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million Jews!


QUOTE:
The Holocaust -- the alleged extermination of some six million Jews (most of them by gassing) -- is a hoax and should be recognized as such by Christians and all informed, honest and truthful men everywhere.


I will open a new thread about this, its late :redeyes: im out......

[nb-legenda]

not only Sinter and B-Unit... but I'm in it too. I believe USA and Israel are the indirect villains here. You don't see it because the nation and its allies brainwash you with the wrong information. Unless you know the whole situation between both parties, only then can you see by yourself who is the "good side". Really interesting facts B-Unit.

[Centarfor9]

Mr. Anglo-Saxon (bosniak guy), I wouldn't expect anything different from you :)

[Pr0s]

Which scientists said that? It's hard to believe that 6 million died for a nation of their own for their own people. Btw, the reason why the world knows that Hitler and the Nazi's did those things is because they logged everything they did with the Jews.

[poutismalakas]

Its not ''just for that'' !


They have a country today, they are the most influencal and powerfull people in the world.

The thing is it was not a 6 million !

Not even close..........


And on July 24, 1942, Hitler emphasized his determination to remove all Jews from Europe after the war: "The Jews are interested in Europe for economic reasons, but Europe must reject them, if only out of self-interest, becuase the Jews are racially tougher. After this war is over, I will rigorously hold to the view . . . that the Jews will have to leave and emigrate to Madagascar or some other Jewish national state." (H. Picker, "Hitlers Tischgesprsche im Fuhrerhauptquartier" (Stuttgart: 1976), p. 456).

There was no intention to kill them, or gas them......never happend !


QUOTE:
Even if we threw away all the evidence and accounted for every so-called gas chamber, it would have taken 68 YEARS to accomplish gassing six million Jews!


QUOTE:
The Holocaust -- the alleged extermination of some six million Jews (most of them by gassing) -- is a hoax and should be recognized as such by Christians and all informed, honest and truthful men everywhere.


I will open a new thread about this, its late :redeyes: im out......
OK then what about those camps and those dead bodies? Photoshop?? :rolleyes:

[aslanlar]

Jesus christ how is there a Nazi sympathizer? The Jews don't belong in europe? Who says! They have every right to be!

I'm pretty sure some gas was a lot cheaper then a business class flight ticket for all the jews to Madagascar ;) So much for no intent to kill.

May it be 6million, may it be less, it was the clearest act of genocide in history.


On another note, go china! :D Beijing 08 hoorah!!!! :D

[Centarfor9]

...


On another note, go china! :D Beijing 08 hoorah!!!! :D
they better fix that pollution problem :D

[FR Sloboda]

Well not realy Sinter i am moving back to Germany in 3 weeks time:D

[Wabbit]

Every goverment has its ups and downs, is known by far that chinese ppl have no freedoom, I bet they dont even know what freedoom means! Everything is censured in China, thats no life to live. But still unless we r chinese or something we have no right to criticize their actions. I always said it, if u dont belong there, then shut ur mouth, u r no one to get in someone elses house and tell a father how to race their kids.

Is the same with a country, sucks for China, but if they have that kind of fascist gov then is cause they let them. Im not saying is right, but maybe they r used to it and they wouldnt know how to live without it.

[PAO_HELLAS]

2. to easily attack Iran

This was purpose in the beginning, before the invasion in Iraq. But the Arab rebels had a different opinion. They proved USA is not the superpower their propagandist media and movies present them to be, and they changed the plan. It can look like they are achieving their targets, but actually the things are tough for USA and international Zionism right now.

[Saraj Fanático]

Russia is run by Putin, smelliest piece of shit in that part of the world. China is under a deadly regime. Iran is also run by the wrong guy despite much success, Mahmoud is not the brightest of thinkers. Venezuela, Cuba? Fidel go away for the love of god. Co'mon. USA? Great place but has embraced a new form of McCarthyism. Not only that but are not a Independent Nation (its Isreal). The Israelis? Biggest terrorists today. I honestly do not support any of these governments which lead some of these very decisive nations. They're all full of shit. The people I support are the human beings who just want to have the right to live, like those that fight for Chechnya independence for example. And I want the US solders to come back home alive and live life because some of them have fallen victim to their government also. Those are the types of people I support.

[Bosnian Unit]

Jesus christ how is there a Nazi sympathizer? The Jews don't belong in europe? Who says! They have every right to be!

I'm pretty sure some gas was a lot cheaper then a business class flight ticket for all the jews to Madagascar ;) So much for no intent to kill.

May it be 6million, may it be less, it was the clearest act of genocide in history.


On another note, go china! :D Beijing 08 hoorah!!!! :D

QUOTE:

- Although the German government kept extensive and detailed records of its wartime Jewish policy, not a single document has ever been found which substantiates or even refers to an extermination program or policy. Instead, the voluminous German records confiscated by the Allies at the end of the war clearly show that the German "final solution" program was one of emigration and deportation, not extermination.

There is no real evidence for the incessantly repeated claim that the German exterminated six million Jews. It is clear, though, that millions of Jews "survived" German rule during the Second World War, including many who were interned in Auschwitz and other so-called "extermination camps." This fact alone should raise serious doubts about the extermination story. A leading newspaper of neutral Switzerland, the daily "Baseler Nachrichten", carefully estimated in June 1946 that no more than 1.5 million European Jews could have perished under German rule during the war ("Baseler Nachrichten", June 13, 1946, p.2).

The fact is there is countries if you denied a ''Holocaust' you can end up in jail.......or they will just not aloud you to publicly say that on any media, becouse we know who controles media today.

Basicly they forced people to the point where you SHOULD NOT QUESTION HOLOCAUST, if you do you are against MANKIND, you are Nazi supporter, and such such BS....

The media with that bad image of Nazis are bombing us since we are born with all BS stories, but we all know history is written by those who win, if Hitler won it would be different, and at the end of the day Nazi Germany was not more evil then UK,Russia,USA,Japan back then or EVEN TODAY (USA).

P.S. How many Germans,Americans,British,Yugoslav,Russians and others died in that war, but we just hear about Jews, oh yea i forgot they are most important people, even God promised them a land of Israel :rolleyes:

[nb-legenda]

Well not realy Sinter i am moving back to Germany in 3 weeks time:D

im moving back to germany in summer :) what part are you moving to?? im going to Munich!

[aslanlar]

Bosnian Unit:
I am against the existence of Israel, its not like i'm Jewish or support Jews, but Hitlers government set out to exterminate the Jews. Ok, if you like Germany, we can share the blame with supporting countries, for one there is armenia. Sure 6 million can be considered RELATIVELY small when you place it next to deaths during ww2, or even during Russias revolution and the creation of a Bolshevik state.

However 6 million innocent jews died. 6 million- a population to fill a country. I'll admit, while i do like history, the holocaust is not something i know of in detail, so i am not in a great position to comment. What i do know however, is that most historians agree with the genocide of 6 MILLION jews.
There are holocaust deniers, but they tend not to be taken serious.

It may be illegal to deny the genocide, but i think Germany's goal is simply to disassociate it from Nazism as there are quite a few Nazi's still in Germany. ***king fascists.

P.S Have you read the diary of Ann Frank? It is a diary, not a novel. It gives an indication to the extent of the massacres.

[Bosnian Unit]

The Franks were upper class German Jews, both coming from wealthy families. Otto and his siblings lived on the exclusive Meronstrasse in Frankfurt. Otto attended a private prep school, and also attended the Lessing Gymnasium, the most expensive school in Frankfurt.

Otto attended Heidelberg University. After graduation he left for a long vacation in England.

In 1909, the 20 year old Otto went to New York City where he stayed with his relatives, the Oppenheimers.

In 1925 Anne's parents married and settled in Frankfurt, Germany. Anne was born in 1929. The Frank's family business included banking, management of the springs at Bad Soden and the manufacture of cough drops. Anne's mother, the former Edith Holländer, was the daughter of a manufacturer.

In 1934, Otto and his family moved to Amsterdam where he bought a spice business, Opekta, which manufactures Pectin used in making household jellies.

On May 1940, after the Germans occupied Amsterdam Otto remained in that city while his mother and brother moved to Switzerland. Otto remained in Amsterdam where his firm did business with the German Wehrmacht. From 1939 to 1944, Otto sold Opeka, and Pectin, to the German army. Pectin was a food preservative, and a anti infectant balm for wounds and as a thickener for raising blood volume in blood transfusions. Pectin was used as an emulsifier for petroleum, gelatized gasoline for fire bombing. By supplying the Wehrmacht, Otto Frank became, in the eyes of the Dutch, a Nazi collaborator.

On July 6, 1942 Otto moved the Frank family into the so-called 'Secret Annex'. The annex is a three story, mostly glass townhouse that shares a garden park with fifty other apartments.

While he was allegedly in hiding, Otto Frank still managed his business, going downstairs to his office at night and on weekends. Anne and the others would go to Otto's office and listen to radio broadcasts from England.

The purported diary begins on June 12, 1942, and runs to December 5,1942 . It consists of a book that is six by four by a quarter inches. In addition to this first diary, Anne supplemented it with personal letters. Otto said Anne heard Gerrit Bolkestein in a broadcast say: ~ "Keep a diary, and he would publish after the war", and that's why Anne’s father claimed she rewrote her diaries second time in 1944.

In this second edition, the new writer changed, rearranged and occasionally combined entries of various dates.

When Anne allegedly rewrote the diaries, she used a ball point pen, which did not exist in 1945, and the book took on an extremely high literary standard, and read more like a professional documentary than a child's diary. In Anne's second edition her writing style, and handwriting, suddenly matured.

The actual diary of Anne Frank contained only about 150 notes, according to The New York Times, of October 2 ,1955.

In 1944, German authorities in occupied Holland determined that Otto Frank had been swindling then via his extensive and very lucrative Wehrmacht contracts. The German police then raided his apartment attic, and the eight Jews were sent to Westerbork work camp and forced to perform manual labor .Otto himself was sent to Auschwitz.. Anne, her sister Margot, and her mother, subsequently died of typhus in another camp.

In 1945, after being liberated from German custody, Otto returned to Amsterdam, where he claimed he found Anne's diary cleverly hidden in the Annex's rafters. However, another version has a Dutch friend, Meip Geis finding Anne's diary of fictional events, which she then gave to Otto Frank.

Otto took what he claimed were Anne's letters and notes, edited them into a book, which he then gave to his secretary, Isa Cauvern, to review. Isa Cauvern and her husband Albert Cauvern , a writer, authored the first diary.

Questions were raised by some publishers as to whether Isa and Albert Cauvern, who assisted Otto in typing out the work used the original diaries or whether they took it directly from Mr. Frank's personal transcription.

American author, Meyer Levin wrote the third and final edition

Meyer Levin was an author, and journalist, who lived for many years in France, where he met Otto Frank around 1949.

Born in 1905, Meyer Levin was raised in the section of Chicago notoriously known in the days of gangster warfare as the "Bloody Nineteen Ward." At the age of eighteen he worked as a reporter for the Chicago Daily News and during the next four years became an increasingly frequent contributor to the national literary magazine, The Menorah Journal. In 1929 he published THE REPORTER, which was the first of his sixteen novels.

In 1933 Levin became an assistant editor and film critic at the newly-created Esquire Magazine where he remained until 1939.

Perhaps his best-known work is COMPULSION (1956), chronicling the Leopold and Loeb case and hailed by critics as one of the greatest books of the decade. The compelling work was the first "documentary novel" or "non-fiction novel.”

After the enormous success of COMPULSION, Levin embarked on a trilogy of novels dealing with the Holocaust. The first, EVA (1959) was the story of a Jewish girl's experiences throughout the war and her adjustment to life after the concentration camps. This was followed by THE FANATIC (1963), which told the hypnotic story of a Jewish poet dealing with the moral questions that arose from his ordeal at the hands of the Nazis. The last in the triptych, THE STRONGHOLD (1965), is a thriller set in a concentration camp during the last days of the war.

At the outset of World War II Levin made documentary films for the US Office of War Information and later worked in France as a civilian expert in the Psychological Warfare Division. He eventually became a war correspondent for the Jewish Telegraphic Agency, with the special mission of uncovering the fate of Jewish concentration camp prisoners. Levin took his role very seriously, sometimes entering concentration camps ahead of the tanks of the liberating forces in order to compile lists of the survivors.

After the war Levin went to Palestine and turned his attention again to the motion picture camera. His film MY FATHER'S HOUSE told the story of a child survivor searching for his family in Palestine. He wrote this story as a novel as well and the book was published in 1947.

Levin also joined the Hagana underground and helped smuggle Jews from the interior of Poland to Palestine, then basically an Arab country under the control of the British..

In 1951 Levin came upon a copy of the French edition of the Anne Frank diary He made a number of attempts to have the work published in English, and conceived it as a play and film. When the diary finally found an American publisher, his play was accepted for production but then suddenly barred, ostensibly for being "unstageworthy," and another writer's version was commissioned.

Levin fought for the rights to perform his version of the play, claiming that the real reason the producers refused to stage his work was because they thought it "too Jewish." He saw the suppression of the play as an extension of the Stalinist attack on Jewish culture and, outraged that even Anne Frank could be censored, he took the producers to court and began an agonizing, prolonged struggle that dragged on for years.

Levin eventually won a jury award against the producers for appropriation of ideas, but the bitterness of the trial made him many enemies in the Jewish and literary communities.

Although Levin's version of the play is still banned by the owners of the dramatic rights, underground productions of the work are frequently staged throughout the world.

Meyer Levin died in 1981

Levin rewrote the various post-war treatments of the Anne Frank diary with an eye toward a Broadway production, but Otto decided to cut him out, refusing to honor his contract or pay him for his work. Meyer Levin sued Otto Frank for his writings, and the New York Supreme court awarded Meyer Levin $50,000, for his 'intellectual work'.

In 1980, Otto sued two Germans, Ernst Romer and Edgar Geiss, for distributing literature denouncing the diary as a forgery. The trial produced a study by official German handwriting experts that determined everything in the diary was written by the same person. The person that wrote the diaries had used a ballpoint pen throughout. Unfortunately for Herr Frank, the ballpoint pen was not available until 1951 whereas Anne was known to have died of typhus in 1944.

Because of the lawsuit in a German court, the German state forensic bureau, the Bundes Kriminal Amt forensically examined the manuscript, which at that point in time consisted of three hardbound notebooks and 324 loose pages bound in a fourth notebook, with special forensic equipment.

The results of tests, performed at the BKA laboratories, showed that “significant” portions of the work, especially the fourth volume, were written with a ballpoint pen. Since ballpoint pens were not available before 1951, [B]the BKA concluded those sections must have been added subsequently.

In the end, BKA clearly determined that none of the diary handwriting matched known examples of Anne's handwriting. The German magazine, Der Spiegel, published an account of this report alleging that (a) some editing postdated 1951; (b) an earlier expert had held that all the writing in the journal was by the same hand; and thus (c) the entire diary was a postwar fake.


Now im not trying to change someones mind, all i know is since we where born we are being brainwashed by those who won the war. If Hiler won, it would be different right ? I know all propaganda that has been said in last Yugoslavian wars back in 90's from all sides. Today when you luck back you cant do nothing but lough........

Im not saying Jews people where not killed in the war, everybody was being killed back then, 25 million of Russians died for God sake, did average Joe in Oxford or Washington heard about that ? I dont think so !

But there was never a genocide on Jews people as they claim there was, for God sake even then they where most rich and powerfull.........and somebody had to support Germany financialy to continue that war ? American companies did, whos owners where Jews, Banks did wich where owned by Jews.......Hitler had Jews connection big time......

Enough for me for tonight.......i'' leave you with these words !

"Without me Zionism would not have succeeded, but without Zionism my work would have been stuck to death."

[aslanlar]

Interesting notes on the diary. Your write she died of typhus. Where/why did she die of typhus. (if you need a hint, it rhymes with concentration lamp).

Why do you think Germany accepted and appologized for the genocide? Sure an amount of pressure was put on them, and they had even accepted the 'war guilt clause' in WW1 without justification, but that caused widespread anger among the Germans (which in tern lead to Hitlers rise to power). The only people who are angry about appologizing for the genocide are nazis.

Unlike other events in history that are unfortunately a blur with little sources to study from, Germany from 33-45 is not one of them. Sure they burnt their documents, but there remains enough evidence to conclude genocide.

You don't think the majority of historians are brainwashed and are just regurgitating mindless shit that the government will accept, do you?

[alishir123]

Hello my name is Alisher
and Im a Orgin of Uyghur - Turk
who is in The region called East Turkestan (Xingxang-Chinese)
The Chinese government have no respect for any
religion or any human rights at all....
they have raped,killed insant people. kids women men all
What had made it worser is that after 9 11
the Chinese gov. had a "reson" to kill more Uyghur Muslim
beacause there terrorist... how can we be terrorsist if
we didnt no bomb anything, dont have any money for wepons,
cant even perchase a knife with out being proscuted..
jsut to inform you all bout the chinese gov. guys..

go look it up ok = ]

[aslanlar]

Serious you're Uyghur? As i Turk, i have a lot of respect for you guys and hopefully you may get your indipendence one day.

[Centarfor9]

Chinese do need to stop messing with our Muslim brothers

[FR Sloboda]

The ww2 holacuast did happen as my Great-Uncle was a Yugoslav Partizan Pow who was sent to a prison camp but was liberted by our Russian Slavonic brothers lol, He came back alive after 3 years to come back home.

see We seljaks are hard to beat

[FR Sloboda]

oh and yes nermin i am going to Stuttgart to live and to find a motor vehicle job:d

[Saraj Fanático]

The ww2 holacuast did happen as my Great-Uncle was a Yugoslav Partizan Pow who was sent to a prison camp but was liberted by our Russian Slavonic brothers lol, He came back alive after 3 years to come back home.

see We seljaks are hard to beat

:lol::lol::lol: You must be kidding.

[alishir123]

Thats for the support Aslanlar = ]
one day it will happen....
I hope we get recongized by the rest
of the war.....or it might be quiet genocide

[poutismalakas]

QUOTE:

- Although the German government kept extensive and detailed records of its wartime Jewish policy, not a single document has ever been found which substantiates or even refers to an extermination program or policy. Instead, the voluminous German records confiscated by the Allies at the end of the war clearly show that the German "final solution" program was one of emigration and deportation, not extermination.

There is no real evidence for the incessantly repeated claim that the German exterminated six million Jews. It is clear, though, that millions of Jews "survived" German rule during the Second World War, including many who were interned in Auschwitz and other so-called "extermination camps." This fact alone should raise serious doubts about the extermination story. A leading newspaper of neutral Switzerland, the daily "Baseler Nachrichten", carefully estimated in June 1946 that no more than 1.5 million European Jews could have perished under German rule during the war ("Baseler Nachrichten", June 13, 1946, p.2).

The fact is there is countries if you denied a ''Holocaust' you can end up in jail.......or they will just not aloud you to publicly say that on any media, becouse we know who controles media today.

Basicly they forced people to the point where you SHOULD NOT QUESTION HOLOCAUST, if you do you are against MANKIND, you are Nazi supporter, and such such BS....

The media with that bad image of Nazis are bombing us since we are born with all BS stories, but we all know history is written by those who win, if Hitler won it would be different, and at the end of the day Nazi Germany was not more evil then UK,Russia,USA,Japan back then or EVEN TODAY (USA).

P.S. How many Germans,Americans,British,Yugoslav,Russians and others died in that war, but we just hear about Jews, oh yea i forgot they are most important people, even God promised them a land of Israel :rolleyes:

where you found this at american nazi party.com or iran.com ????

[valdanito_10]

i think some ppl are triying to ignore what was more than an obvious event in history.

I dont even want to debate something like did the nazi kill jews, its quite obvious.

Seriosuly, you dont have to know rocket science to figure it out.

[nb-legenda]

but you haven't BEEN there

[valdanito_10]

I dont have to

[Musa]

I agree that the Nazis did kill jews.. i just dont think it was to the extent that we are made to believe today.. i mean 6 million people.. come on.. Im not refusing to believe that a genocide happen, but on that scale.. i doubt it..

[Wabbit]

^Im not nazi or fascist or anything (just out off topic like all of u)

But wasn't the german's genocide, the freaking holocaust, the massive assassination of the jews, the shoah or however u wanna call it, during war world 2??? Cause if so, during times of war everyting is allow, why u guys think no cares about dead ppl in all those USA vs asinas wars?? But everyone made such a huge scandal about the twin towers back in 01'??

Like I said Im not justifing any action or anything, I think Hitler deserved to die in pain for what he did, but Im just saying that u cant comapre the holocaust in times of war with an extremist country that treats their own citizens like if they were animals

[aslanlar]

Anti semetism has a history in europe and germany, long before when hitler came to power. However, hitler came to power in '33 and opression of the jews started, in a sence, then. It wasn't just war-time killings.

[Saraj Fanático]

I do not deny the holocaust. I think it occurred..just not in the number the world likes to imagine. 6 Million, nonsense.

[nb-legenda]

you can't kill 6 million in that short period of time. that's more than population of my home country.

[FR Sloboda]

Hey the Holacust did happen - sure it might not have been 6 million people it was probaly rounded up to that figure.

See where are the Jews In Belgrade - they where all executed.

and the Jews in Zagreb, Poland, Russia etc.

[Centarfor9]

Belgrade was the first city in Europe that was Judenfrei (i.e. fist city in Europe to execute all Jews)

[Bosnian Unit]

where you found this at american nazi party.com or iran.com ????

Very funny :boo:

But if you are interested, here it is.....

www.urblind.fu

[Sebastian]

China is an epitome of perversion.If there's a nation that i despise,it is them...Death penalty for 10 000 $ hacked from a bank??? :hippie: :der:

[Sebastian]

I agree that the Nazis did kill jews.. i just dont think it was to the extent that we are made to believe today.. i mean 6 million people.. come on.. Im not refusing to believe that a genocide happen, but on that scale.. i doubt it..

You dont have to kill 6 milion people to persecute the nazzi...Producing soaps out of people and experimenting with them in pressurized chambers,while watching their skin turns up side down and all this supported by the whole nation it's more then enough...

It's of no significance though...The jews play Germany like a circus these days...There's a price and payback for everything...

[Sebastian]

What British did to Africans ?

American to Blacks ?

This is at least 50-60 years ago, and has nothing to do with todays China. They are great people, i respect them very well and dont be jeleous becouse they will be superpower #1 in 5-10 years !

Todays China .....

Beijing

http://www.hotelsbycity.net/images/travelguides/int/china/beijing-big.jpg

http://spiritualtravelman.files.wordpress.com/2007/10/beijing.jpg

Hong Kong

http://www.destination360.com/asia/china/images/s/china-hong-kong.jpg

http://www.webdesign.org/img_articles/10541/Hong-Kong-Collage.jpg

http://www.virtual-cozumel.com/images/country/hong-kong.jpg

Shanghai

http://www.indagare.com/photos/0000/0237/ShanghaiHero_a_1.jpg

What you are presenting is the purest form of propaganda...That means nothing when you are the country with the highest number of executions for ridiculous accusations...
So having the highest skyscraper in the world makes you better than America???
So those buildings should impress someone???They treat people like garbage and they pollute
their children as if they are cockroaches...It is pathetic.Some of the most potentially devastating diseases came from China...
Have you seen how REAL people live in China???Not those who live in the pictures you've posted...
Those executions on the pictures are actually propaganda and they are taken from a video game actually...
They are just a tip of the iceberg when China is concerned...They even threatened that they will ban the Olymipc games because of the horrible pollution that is a consequence of their pathetic Quantity over Quality philosophy...If someone buys my daughter one of those Chinese crap dolls i will smash that out of his head...It is no surprise that the guy who managed this industry hanged him self....
China is a trademark for the most awful quality imaginable...They suck big time...
Just watch Wham "Freedom"Video in '83 and see those poor people being watched by the army...Pathetic...

[Sebastian]

China superior???They are a Zillion and they still cant even launch a probe on Mont Everest...Who gives a shit about China man.They are the most pathetic nation that walks the earth...If there's someone who will oppose America it is Russia,these corroded intellects can drown in their ignorance and repressive society...There's rich people everywhere,but you dont execute people for whatever you want...I am not against the death penalty,but these morons will execute you for pick pocketing...

Jealous of China???I pity them...They make me sick...They will never get the authority of America,Britain and Russia...

[Sebastian]

I deleted the graphic pics! Those are fine! I accidentaly deleted those in the original post!

Hey i aint a pervert but i would really want to see the pics that are deleted...I can only imagine the epilogue of those that are allowed...

The guy who started this thread can send them via PM...

[Bosnian Unit]

What you are presenting is the purest form of propaganda...That means nothing when you are the country with the highest number of executions for ridiculous accusations...
So having the highest skyscraper in the world makes you better than America???
So those buildings should impress someone???They treat people like garbage and they pollute
their children as if they are cockroaches...It is pathetic.Some of the most potentially devastating diseases came from China...
Have you seen how REAL people live in China???Not those who live in the pictures you've posted...
Those executions on the pictures are actually propaganda and they are taken from a video game actually...
They are just a tip of the iceberg when China is concerned...They even threatened that they will ban the Olymipc games because of the horrible pollution that is a consequence of their pathetic Quantity over Quality philosophy...If someone buys my daughter one of those Chinese crap dolls i will smash that out of his head...It is no surprise that the guy who managed this industry hanged him self....
China is a trademark for the most awful quality imaginable...They suck big time...
Just watch Wham "Freedom"Video in '83 and see those poor people being watched by the army...Pathetic...

I think you are just mad becouse 90% stuff you buy is made in China :D.

They know bussines man, dont hate on them :smoking:.

Its 21st century, 2008......dont go back in time, what happens today it matters........dont make me bring all the stuff West/USA did 20-30 yrs ago.

Even West/USA today treat people really great, meybe you think China should follow them.....well lets see how today West treat people, how they think they are superior to everyone else etc...


http://web.comhem.se/cdata/irak/posing.jpg
American soldier posing with 2 children holding a sign saying 'Lcpl Baudreaub killed my Dad and he knocked up my sister'


The way Western democracy works today...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Abu-ghraib-leash.jpg

http://www.thewednesdayreport.com/twr/twr-v18/19/Abu_Ghraib_prison19.jpg

http://www.sebimeyer.com/images/_wikipedia_en_5_54_AbuGhraibScandalHarmon55.jpg

So should China follow this kind of people rights, freedom and democracy ?

eLcino, anyone ?

[Centarfor9]

^ hajd koji ti je kurac

[Wabbit]

http://web.comhem.se/cdata/irak/posing.jpg
American soldier posing with 2 children holding a sign saying 'Lcpl Baudreaub killed my Dad and he knocked up my sister'


The way Western democracy works today...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Abu-ghraib-leash.jpg

http://www.thewednesdayreport.com/twr/twr-v18/19/Abu_Ghraib_prison19.jpg

http://www.sebimeyer.com/images/_wikipedia_en_5_54_AbuGhraibScandalHarmon55.jpg

So should China follow this kind of people rights, freedom and democracy ?

eLcino, anyone ?


Speechless....:sad:

[Sebastian]

I think you are just mad becouse 90% stuff you buy is made in China :D.

They know bussines man, dont hate on them :smoking:.

Its 21st century, 2008......dont go back in time, what happens today it matters........dont make me bring all the stuff West/USA did 20-30 yrs ago.

Even West/USA today treat people really great, meybe you think China should follow them.....well lets see how today West treat people, how they think they are superior to everyone else etc...


http://web.comhem.se/cdata/irak/posing.jpg
American soldier posing with 2 children holding a sign saying 'Lcpl Baudreaub killed my Dad and he knocked up my sister'


The way Western democracy works today...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Abu-ghraib-leash.jpg

http://www.thewednesdayreport.com/twr/twr-v18/19/Abu_Ghraib_prison19.jpg

http://www.sebimeyer.com/images/_wikipedia_en_5_54_AbuGhraibScandalHarmon55.jpg

So should China follow this kind of people rights, freedom and democracy ?

eLcino, anyone ?

You are trying to inflict impressions with this???I will not continue with this propaganda picture freak show...A picture worths a million words,but this isnt a "PervertedFansNetwork"so even beside the fact that i have ten times more shocking pictures of Chinese morons executing innocent people,i will use my dialectics and rhetorics in this matter...

I dont buy Chinese crap,which is definitely the most worthless pile of bullshit available on the world market...They are so pathetic that they even make stamps of the European certificate EC on their crap so that people can buy that...
What a bunch of low life losers...If you make quality stuff,you wont have to deceive people to buy your junk,they will buy it and even give you more then it actually worths...

The pictures you have posted are childs play to the ones of the whole Chinese administration watching "Champions League"finals and how these people are executed...
Now they are lot more sophisticated then they were on the pictures,but you can bet that these executed people are nothing what is going on today in China...
About the Iraq Prison terror...That's what happens in war pal...You think there isnt something like that going on in other war prisons???That will end when all wars end...Which will never happen..But you are missing the point here...
Those people who were humiliated in the Iraqy American prisons arent Americans(although in prisons every thing's possible)...and China is executing and terrorizing and degrading it's own people for ridiculous reasons for which no one can even imagine...
It's keeping it's people in a extreme poverty,there is the worst diseases imaginable,there's more pollution in there then the whole world.There's extreme repression and people live like slaves...Is this better then the Western society???It is ironic that everyone spits on that,but everyone wants to go there...Can i compare the western society with the Chinese one???Hell no,it is even stupid...I realize that you admire to everyone who "opposes"the Izrael-American-British-European Union dominance...You praise China and Russia and Iran,so Why dont you go and live there???
Chinese people are extremely satisfied with their life and with their worthless salaries which enables them to buy their bread and that's it...Are they miserable???Are they scared...Are they terrified????Hell no...
Those little kids who are "showing off"with that ridiculous banner are humiliated...But you expect that Condolisa Rise mailed that banner and asked from that soldier to picture with two little kids and send her back the negatives???I am talking about the Chinese social order and not individual outbursts...When an incredible country like the German one is indoctrinated that the jews,drink people's blood that they are the ugliest people on the planet(which cant be further then the truth),posting pictures of some hidious human being and claiming that these were the usual jewish appearance,then what do you expect...Mass suggestion isnt something new,the Jews started the whole thing with their Promised land and how they are the chosen people...The one with the best propaganda wins...Christianity fallowed and there's the Islam...Indoctrination is a phenomenon for quite some time...Psychological idols are the worst thing you can imagine and China is a religious social order...It cant be described differently.It's administration is a personification of a God in mythologies and religions...
Iran is an Islamic state,but i respect them,although i find their religion ridiculous.They are and they look like men...He will cut your whiner fill it with tartufs and put it in your mouth,while the Chinese people makes me laugh,these dungeon & Dragons dwarfs will rule the world???Are you freaking nuts???Japs are small too,but they arent morons like these...
What kind of imbecil you should be to even think that chopping the Tiger's dick and making a soup is an afrodiziak????They wiped out all the Asian tigers for this...There's a death penalty for smugling a Panda :lol:...There is no one who value the human life less then them...
Chinese society is disgusting...the Bird influenza developed because the people live with their chickens and pigs at their homes...There is no hygiene whatsoever...
But there's a difference between the repressive and the democratic societies(absolute democracy is an utopia just like komunism,but it is still better ideal then Komunism after all)China tells it's people,if you do this you will be killed,if you dont do this you will be severely punished...Like you are treating animals...
It operates with these methods,but the Democratic one bombard you with stupid comercials and propaganda and makes you addictive of their products...If you are smart enough,you will stay away from McDonalds,Coca Cola,Pepsi,Nikotine,Coffee and Alcohol...But you have a choice...No one is holding a Firing squad there and waiting for you to appear without a ciggarete,McDonald or a Pepsi...No one ever in the western society threatened with a death penalty for listening Mozart or Vivaldi :D...It just speaks for their concept of reason and it is irrelevant when this ocured...Human intellect doesnt evolve for 25 to 30 years...It takes lot more time then that...It is the same administration and it is the same social philosophy...

It is not komunism and it isnt capitalism and it certainly isnt Socialism...They are a mutant hybrid of the worst all of these and they are losing their reality in their madness...
Why arent people migrating in China????They are a lot of people,but if it is a cool country people will find their way in...Why is everyone migrating in America,Britain,Europe the Scandinavian countries which are the best...
People knows that Chinese society is the most perverted and twisted from all of todays countries...They cant fool me with their skyscraper bullshit and they cant certainly mask or camouflage their indifference when people's lives are concerned...
They are starving for war arsenal and sophisticated weapons,but they are too ignorant to create their own...How many pilots died in their attempts to design a sophisticated combat aircraft...They cant make even the legendary Japanese Zero that roared in the second world war...A zillion of people and there isnt a single one who can fulfill their imperialistic ambitions and build them a damn plane :D...These Morons can not be compared with Iran...They are developing a plane with the Russians which is a state of the art...It is probably the most beautiful combat aircraft i have seen...They are not considered as a good society,but the Chinese are holding the top spot...
America is investing 200 billions of dollars in China annually,so they will make the Chinese economy dependent from the American,even if it isnt dependent,no one really gives a damn...They can continue with their "Legendary Chain"of "sophisticated" Chinese malls around the world,which people love...I just love to buy [b] Sqny,Rabook,Nyke,The old man and the Sea action figures,Pama...Inter jersey with the name Shevchenko on the back,a radioactive Barbie and Formula 100 car which is actually a McLaren MP4-22 painted in the Ferarri colors and slapped all the Ferrari's sponsors on it:Pound:...Which is the most hilarious thing i have seen so far...
But the picture that i uploaded bellow is definitely an ass cracker...
I laughed in the middle of the store in Ohrid and people said what's wrong with this guy...When i saw Sheva in his Ukraine jersey riding a trotinet i just couldnt hold my shit...I laughed whole day...:lol:...Who in Cheaters infidelity "reality" show's name thought of something like that...I mean incredible business strategy and market philosophy...

They cant even make a gun damn it :D they still use the Russian Ak-47...China fantasies for a sophisticated military are above all else...It is their priority.
The fact that they have nuclear weapons doesnt mean a damn,even Bush can make a Hidrogen bomb these days.
Japan is a mosquito when compared with China,but they are incredible,they ass kicked whole China like it is a freakin Vatican...They are a contrast of this parody of a society...
They cant even manage Taiwan who makes idiots out of whole China...They want it so bad,but why they dont go and take it???Because the U.S designed it in the first place...All they can do is sit and watch...
You are so jealous of the Western dominance that it is even ridiculous to watch how you try to discredit their society...It is not perfect,it is not optimal,but ask your self,why does people go there???
The only one who can correspond with the US isnt China...Those morons can only build buildings as if it's a rocket science...Russia has always been America's biggest enemy...
Intellectually they are unparalleled,they made a huge mistake for trying the komunistic bullshit,but now they getting as powerful as a country can be...
Support Russia and no one can really ask you why you support them...Puttin is the man...An empirialistic and a perverted composition of a leader,but the guy has all the authority in the world,which i can say the same about the cockroach intellect that goes by the name of George Bush...
Dont make your self ridiculous by claiming that those morons in China will be superior...They will be superior in their unparalleled toy market and those radioactive coin jars...


They know bussines man, dont hate on them :smoking:.

Indeed...They even convinced Shevchenko to picture him self on one of their high quality Trotinets......

[poutismalakas]

I think you are just mad becouse 90% stuff you buy is made in China :D.

They know bussines man, dont hate on them :smoking:.

Its 21st century, 2008......dont go back in time, what happens today it matters........dont make me bring all the stuff West/USA did 20-30 yrs ago.

Even West/USA today treat people really great, meybe you think China should follow them.....well lets see how today West treat people, how they think they are superior to everyone else etc...


http://web.comhem.se/cdata/irak/posing.jpg
American soldier posing with 2 children holding a sign saying 'Lcpl Baudreaub killed my Dad and he knocked up my sister'


The way Western democracy works today...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f2/Abu-ghraib-leash.jpg

http://www.thewednesdayreport.com/twr/twr-v18/19/Abu_Ghraib_prison19.jpg

http://www.sebimeyer.com/images/_wikipedia_en_5_54_AbuGhraibScandalHarmon55.jpg

So should China follow this kind of people rights, freedom and democracy ?

eLcino, anyone ?

You know that first picture was doctured!!!! maybe even by you!

[Centarfor9]

...



Indeed...They even convinced Shevchenko to picture him self on one of their high quality Trotinets......

look at him go

[Bosnian Unit]

You know that first picture was doctured!!!! maybe even by you!


:lol:

What, you dont think your soldiers are that evil ? Come on the only reason they are in the Army is becouse of money ! Most of them are young, violent and unprofessional.

Like i allready said, most of them are there becouse of money, US citizenship, current or ex thugs from American ghettos who had nothing better to do, they where killing on their own streests so why not in ''some'' Iraq !?

I really dont understand why you try to act like they are innocent, while we have a proof they are nothing but terrorists who terrorize other people just to GET PAID, or just to become American citizen or........


@eLcino

Damn, you wrote a lot of shit in there but it was really pointless becouse Chinese will be on the top weather you like it or not. Nobady and nothing will stop them !

I cant belive that you said nobady goes to China, but most of the people are immigrating to Western countries......Come on, there is billion + Chinese, some people over there live on ships for God's sake....Yea there is poor people there, but when you compare that to billion+ population its nothing.

USA is bigger then China in size, but China have ONE BILLION PEOPLE more then USA........Yet there is millions in US who are homeless, in jail, poor etc...

Dont even mention UK, or Denmark, or Sweden becouse that is just like one Chinese city:smoking:.

Abou pollution and other stuff, hmm in USA there 9/10 people have cars, in China that is not the case, yet USA is the one who is one of those countries with pollution problem big time, i would like to see how would they deal with it if they had ONE BILLION PEOPLE added to their current population.

[Andygers]

It is true there is abuse in the west but that cannot excuse what happens anywhere including China, it has to stop and soon!!!

[Wabbit]

^Stop?? Hell no, that will never stop! as long as USA keeps thinking they own the world that will never stop, or else they would no argument or reason to attack any country for no reasons, this kind of things that happen in China or anywhere let them to make a move, screw the UN and attack some country "to claim peace" and to increase their pockets...

[Bosnian Unit]

It is true there is abuse in the west but that cannot excuse what happens anywhere including China, it has to stop and soon!!!

Thank you :yo:

That's what im trying to say, there is no place on earth where is perfect.....but we have people here who blame just one side, either is Arabs,Chinese,Chavez..... but they think their government is so perfect, and they are superior to everyone else.

Just for showing the other side wich they are not willing to present here, i have been called all these names......so one day im Islamic terrorist, the other day im Communist or Chavez's supporter, or simply Iranian Jew hater :lol:.

Im probably more liberal then they will ever be, but when they live in the world where their government constatly brainwash them, and if they see someone who dissagree with them they call him terrorist,nazi and all these names wich probably comes out of them becouse they hate.

But they should really hate their government who programed them that way, i feel sorry for them becouse they cant see further then their nose :sad:!

[Wabbit]

Im probably more liberal then they will ever be, but when they live in the world where their government constatly brainwash them, and if they see someone who dissagree with them they call him terrorist,nazi and all these names wich probably comes out of them becouse they hate.

But they should really hate their government who programed them that way, i feel sorry for them becouse they cant see further then their nose :sad:!

This is so damn true..is like no one is willing to accept someone's opinion.

[nb-legenda]

Drake and Josh

[poutismalakas]

:lol:

What, you dont think your soldiers are that evil ? Come on the only reason they are in the Army is becouse of money ! Most of them are young, violent and unprofessional.

Like i allready said, most of them are there becouse of money, US citizenship, current or ex thugs from American ghettos who had nothing better to do, they where killing on their own streests so why not in ''some'' Iraq !?

I really dont understand why you try to act like they are innocent, while we have a proof they are nothing but terrorists who terrorize other people just to GET PAID, or just to become American citizen or........



how many US service men do you know????? Also you never said where you got that from?? Also how many pics are there of muslims kids stomping on dead bodies? Remember Somalia and those kids jumping up and down in the streets after 9-11? OH wait that is ok for them to do that cause the US sucks!

Are some in the military for college money? yes but there are MANY men and women who joined out of Patriotism as well! Also as far as the Ghetto part stop reading your cherished anti war newsletters!:rolleyes: If you have felonys or haven;t graduated from High School you can't get in the military

[Bosnian Unit]

how many US service men do you know????? Also you never said where you got that from??

Are some in the military for college money? yes but there are MANY men and women who joined out of Patriotism as well! Also as far as the Ghetto part stop reading your cherished anti war newsletters!:rolleyes: If you have felonys or haven;t graduated from High School you can't get in the military


:rolleyes:

Did you ever watch Michael Moore documentary, when Marines go into the ghetto's and look for guys to join military ?

We offer great opportunity, you know Shagy he was nobady, he was on streets just like you but we gave him a chance and he become a singer.

A Marine was saying this to those guys !

Felonys......:lol:, a lot of those guys had two options prison or military !

High school.......:rolleyes: why you keep talking this nonsense ?

You are trying to present US military like its all that.....please they are just bunch of unprofesional soldiers with highest number of so called ''FRIENDLY FIRE'', killing their OWN troops that is.

Even by shooting down helicopters........Someone who finished high school, and who is professional would not have that many mistakes.

There are a lot of troops who are just 18-20 years old........they are still kids for God's sake, but they see how great Marines are in SOME AWARD WINING MOVIES (brainwashing that is) they join military speceily when they promise them that they will be able to go to college, earn money, great future etc..

You know all this very well, i just dont know why are you ignoring it ?

[poutismalakas]

:rolleyes:

Did you ever watch Michael Moore documentary, when Marines go into the ghetto's and look for guys to join military ?

We offer great opportunity, you know Shagy he was nobady, he was on streets just like you but we gave him a chance and he become a singer.

A Marine was saying this to those guys !

Felonys......:lol:, a lot of those guys had two options prison or military !

High school.......:rolleyes: why you keep talking this nonsense ?

You are trying to present US military like its all that.....please they are just bunch of unprofesional soldiers with highest number of so called ''FRIENDLY FIRE'', killing their OWN troops that is.

Even by shooting down helicopters........Someone who finished high school, and who is professional would not have that many mistakes.

There are a lot of troops who are just 18-20 years old........they are still kids for God's sake, but they see how great Marines are in SOME AWARD WINING MOVIES (brainwashing that is) they join military speceily when they promise them that they will be able to go to college, earn money, great future etc..

You know all this very well, i just dont know why are you ignoring it ?
OH MY GOD you believe what Michael Moore says!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol: that guy is the almost as big a bullshitter as Al Gore is!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol: YOu have just lost a great deal cred IN MY EYES!!!! how old are your soldiers serving in the Bosnian army 30?? :lol::lol::lol: your blind hatred of the US government has allowed you to become brainwashed by Michael Moore of all people!!!:lol::lol:


I just looked up the requirments and no High school diploma or equivalment can't enlist! except for trier III navy reserve as off 2005 the rest NO WAY JOSE!

"http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/enlstandards.htm

[Sebastian]

Michael Moore????You infest your self with the idiocy of this fat cockroach and you have the cheek to speak about propaganda???
If i ever see that moron i will slap him so hard he will never have to shave again...
What a loser...He went and asked The Nike owner the most stupid questions i have ever heard in my life...Do you even think that this hypocrite gives a damn about anyone???
I havent even read what you even said about him...The first thing i saw was..."Did you see Michael Moore documentary???
That is enough...When you grow a bit and evaluate things with your own council,you will find him ridiculous...Perhaps i imagine this...Perhaps things arent that vivid for everyone as they are for my self...
I dont speak this blinded by arrogance,but i find it difficult to believe how people are manipulated by the things they despise...
You curse the western society,unaware that you are accepting it's worst possible propagator...
That hilarious Parody of evolution is an abomination of the society that he leeches...He is despicable indeed...
This was my first almost instinctive response to Michael Moore...

[Bosnian Unit]

OH MY GOD you believe what Michael Moore says!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol: that guy is the almost as big a bullshitter as Al Gore is!!! :lol::lol::lol::lol: YOu have just lost a great deal cred IN MY EYES!!!! how old are your soldiers serving in the Bosnian army 30?? :lol::lol::lol: your blind hatred of the US government has allowed you to become brainwashed by Michael Moore of all people!!!:lol::lol:


I just looked up the requirments and no High school diploma or equivalment can't enlist! except for trier III navy reserve as off 2005 the rest NO WAY JOSE!

"http://usmilitary.about.com/od/joiningthemilitary/a/enlstandards.htm

It was a video, on his documentary of those Marines and i allready explained what they where saying. Video cant lie !

Of course you dont like Moore becouse you are brainwashed by your government media, i didnt expect you too like him anyways but he has great respect outside of YOUR BORDERS (USA).

Who else you dont like........hmm Naomi Campbell,Sean Penn and Danny Glover for example......meybe you liked their movies before but not now since they visit and meet Hugo Chavez. Thats how ignorant you people are !

Just like freedom fries :lol: Its not Franch anymore since they didnt supported you in Iraq :boo:.

Just like your great leader (warlord) G.W.Bush said : Either you are with us, or you are against us.

You are programed very well, you will be lost in the new world when he is gone, you will be like what a hell happend, i cant think on my own :smoking:!

[poutismalakas]

Michael Moore????You infest your self with the idiocy of this fat cockroach and you have the cheek to speak about propaganda???
If i ever see that moron i will slap him so hard he will never have to shave again...
What a loser...He went and asked The Nike owner the most stupid questions i have ever heard in my life...Do you even think that this hypocrite gives a damn about anyone???
I havent even read what you even said about him...The first thing i saw was..."Did you see Michael Moore documentary???
That is enough...When you grow a bit and evaluate things with your own council,you will find him ridiculous...Perhaps i imagine this...Perhaps things arent that vivid for everyone as they are for my self...
I dont speak this blinded by arrogance,but i find it difficult to believe how people are manipulated by the things they despise...
You curse the western society,unaware that you are accepting it's worst possible propagator...
That hilarious Parody of evolution is an abomination of the society that he leeches...He is despicable indeed...
This was my first almost instinctive response to Michael Moore...

Exactly as you say! NOW I know where is gets alot of his facts from.....:rolleyes:

VERY SAD :sad:

[poutismalakas]

It was a video, on his documentary of those Marines and i allready explained what they where saying. Video cant lie !

Of course you dont like Moore becouse you are brainwashed by your government media, i didnt expect you too like him anyways but he has great respect outside of YOUR BORDERS (USA).

Who else you dont like........hmm Naomi Campbell,Sean Penn and Danny Glover for example......meybe you liked their movies before but not now since they visit and meet Hugo Chavez. Thats how ignorant you people are !

Just like freedom fries :lol: Its not Franch anymore since they didnt supported you in Iraq :boo:.

Just like your great leader (warlord) G.W.Bush said : Either you are with us, or you are against us.

You are programed very well, you will be lost in the new world when he is gone, you will be like what a hell happend, i cant think on my own :smoking:!

Hey aren't I the guy who said Bush can sucks balls for F'ing up Iraq????!!!!

Michael Moore is EVERY bit a ASS CLOWN as is his puppet was in Team America!!!

I dislike Moore because his documentaries ARE BULLSHIT and edited to so ONLY SHOW WHAT HE WANTS TO SHOW!!!!!

Also those actors can have opinion BUT THEY ARE ONLY RICH PAMPERED ACTORS who run their months! i STILL watch theirs movies except Naomi who I've hated for 15 years :D Also PHUCK Chavez!! If he was a threat to the US Bush would have pulled a Ronald Reagan on his ass and blown up his palace to shut him up just like Qadaffi!!!!

[Bosnian Unit]

Michael Moore????You infest your self with the idiocy of this fat cockroach and you have the cheek to speak about propaganda???
If i ever see that moron i will slap him so hard he will never have to shave again...
What a loser...He went and asked The Nike owner the most stupid questions i have ever heard in my life...Do you even think that this hypocrite gives a damn about anyone???
I havent even read what you even said about him...The first thing i saw was..."Did you see Michael Moore documentary???
That is enough...When you grow a bit and evaluate things with your own council,you will find him ridiculous...Perhaps i imagine this...Perhaps things arent that vivid for everyone as they are for my self...
I dont speak this blinded by arrogance,but i find it difficult to believe how people are manipulated by the things they despise...
You curse the western society,unaware that you are accepting it's worst possible propagator...
That hilarious Parody of evolution is an abomination of the society that he leeches...He is despicable indeed...
This was my first almost instinctive response to Michael Moore...

You know what, i do not care what you think of him. The only reason you guys dont agree with him is becouse of Fahrenheit 9/11 !

You think he is stupid, and whatever else.......i dont blame you becouse i know you have different opinion, the one where your government officials say they have found hijacker's passport, wich somehow survived all that inferno, but those towers didnt:rolleyes: !


Yea it really makes sense........:boo:

[poutismalakas]

You know what, i do not care what you think of him. The only reason you guys dont agree with him is becouse of Fahrenheit 9/11 !

You think he is stupid, and whatever else.......i dont blame you becouse i know you have different opinion, the one where your government officials say they have found hijacker's passport, wich somehow survived all that inferno, but those towers didnt:rolleyes: !


Yea it really makes sense........:boo:

I've disliked that moron way before that!!!! He is essenstial a drug pusher to all the people who think that they are non-conformist!!!! I would LOVE to see what those clips from the interviews he left on the editing table show!!!

[Sebastian]

:lol:

@eLcino

Damn, you wrote a lot of shit in there but it was really pointless becouse Chinese will be on the top weather you like it or not. Nobady and nothing will stop them !

I cant belive that you said nobady goes to China, but most of the people are immigrating to Western countries......Come on, there is billion + Chinese, some people over there live on ships for God's sake....Yea there is poor people there, but when you compare that to billion+ population its nothing.

USA is bigger then China in size, but China have ONE BILLION PEOPLE more then USA........Yet there is millions in US who are homeless, in jail, poor etc...

Dont even mention UK, or Denmark, or Sweden becouse that is just like one Chinese city:smoking:.

Abou pollution and other stuff, hmm in USA there 9/10 people have cars, in China that is not the case, yet USA is the one who is one of those countries with pollution problem big time, i would like to see how would they deal with it if they had ONE BILLION PEOPLE added to their current population.

Planing your population is what makes you intelligent...Every but head with a dick can make a baby...Hell i can make them like coal...
Is that intelligent????
Intelligent people live their own lives and reproducing of course...But what is happening in China is tragic...They have a law for only one child...This speaks for their lack of reason and sanity...Like animals.
There's people here with 10 children,but they threaten no one,since this isnt swarming with "insects"...

The Scandinavian standard and people are one of the smartest on the planet...I admire to these people...They really allow you to feel like a human being...You compare the corroded standards of China with theirs???
The English????One English intellectual worths for half of the Chinese population...Englishmen are like Celestials when compared with those dumb asses...
Who in Bjork's name would want to live in China????I wouldnt go there even if it's free...I am not limited individual when these matters are concerned,i love traveling and adventures,but to go in a land where everything can happen to you is out of the question....
There's risk everywhere,but these vampires would execute for dropping a bubble gum on the ground...

USA is bigger then China in size, but China have ONE BILLION PEOPLE more then USA........Yet there is millions in US who are homeless, in jail, poor etc...
Now this is classic...Why are there homeless people???You think they cant work???Are there no jobs for them????They just want to spend their lives doing nothing...But America treats these people lot better then China treats it's middle class dude :lol:...The homeless and the Prisoners in the US live better then the middle class...Have you ever thought about that???
Only a fraction of China's population is considered as a rich layer...the rest is isolated from the human civilization...The undiscovered tribes in Amazon are more civilized then these...

Americans have cars???Hahaha...A car for a Chinese is equivalent to a Private Jet plane for the Americans...They cant afford even a piece of crap like that trotinet that Shevchenko is using :lol:...

China will be on Top???I am amused by your swallowing of the Chinese bullshit propaganda...They are using people hatred toward the western society and they infest them with komunistic crap,just like Russia was doing a long time ago...They produced decomentaries(just like Moore)how their people are happy and filled with joy,while they were all dying in Gulag...
I cant believe you are buying that Chinese idiocy...Those are the biggest losers and morons that are breathing on this planet...
They have no moral and ethical imperatives whatsoever...Man it sucks being a Chinese...

Talking about numbers....Talk this:
Japan screwed whole China and do you know how much Japanese people is there???What kind of imbecil allow that???England opposed the mightiest air force in the second world war by it self...It's another proof of their intellectual standards...
Two intelligent individuals can defeat 100 morons...Germany wasnt a moron by the way,which makes their glory even more impressive...
Japanese soldiers defeated Chinese as if these were ants...:lol:...Man i laugh every time i think of that....
That's your glorious China pal...You think they've changed????They will rule the world???With what???Their bicicles?????:Pound:...

[Bosnian Unit]

I've disliked that moron way before that!!!! He is essenstial a drug pusher to all the people who think that they are non-conformist!!!! I would LOVE to see what those clips from the interviews he left on the editing table show!!!

You didnt even knew him before that, just like 90% of people that knows him now......He got known by making that documentary about 9/11 !

Even if you did, he was not that influential, and nobady paid attention to his work. Like i have said, the only reason you guys dont like him is becouse of Fahrenheit 9/11 !

That is becouse you have different point of view on all that, so do i and we will probably never agree on some things.

But you know what, that is fine with me.....Its damn late, im out of here :sleepy:!

[Sebastian]

You know what, i do not care what you think of him. The only reason you guys dont agree with him is becouse of Fahrenheit 9/11 !

You think he is stupid, and whatever else.......i dont blame you becouse i know you have different opinion, the one where your government officials say they have found hijacker's passport, wich somehow survived all that inferno, but those towers didnt:rolleyes: !


Yea it really makes sense........:boo:

Are you drunk????
:lol:...My government????:Pound:...:lol:...What in Hari Krisna name are you talking dude...What the hell i have to do with "My"government????I have nothing to do with it...I hear this the first time but it is irrelevant...If you have something to say to the individual with the nick name eLcino then say it...What has this to do with my view on China and Moore????What a load of crap :lol:..

So when Bush said that America should've bombed Aushwitz,the American people are to be blamed for this????

Learn that everyone is responsible for it's own actions and deeds...
I am born as an individual and i will remain as one...I am not responsible nor do i care for anyones actions except mine...No one will die for me...

What you wrote there can not be classified as reasonable...It is so lame that i cant even understand it's cause...I am not a dream weaver,be specific...I find more concrete stuff in Salvador Dali pictures then in your post...

[poutismalakas]

You didnt even knew him before that, just like 90% of people that knows him now......He got known by making that documentary about 9/11 !

Even if you did, he was not that influential, and nobady paid attention to his work. Like i have said, the only reason you guys dont like him is becouse of Fahrenheit 9/11 !

That is becouse you have different point of view on all that, so do i and we will probably never agree on some things.

But you know what, that is fine with me.....Its damn late, im out of here :sleepy:!

I just said i knew how he was.... Also there are tons of people who he interviewed that saw he manipulated their interviews! As I said love him if you want but he isn't saying the truth! ONLY HIS VERSION!!!

[Sebastian]

The guy is using slang language to an extremely influential people and individuals who have set their criteria and hig standards long time ago...They can not lower to Moore's level and speak with his savage vocabulary...
He asks questions like a mediocre citizen asks...I never watch TV except when there's football,but sometimes i see those political crap and when people call..."They doesnt care about the people(as if he would give a damn if he was on his position),all they want is the "chair"...they are criminals,robbers,thiefs..."
This is how he expresses him self...It is appealing to the mediocre mind,cos that's what he's thinking all the time in a first place...
I see nothing worthy in his work...It is all based on "unwanted and unplanned"comercial success,just like Da De Vinci Code alternative reality...It is cleverly distorted image of an already distorted truth...
It is so naive for a person to allow to be devoured by this "mind reaver"...
The guy creates a conspiracy theory about 9/11 and all those Dylan Dog,Zagor,X-Men and He man lovers are already buying this crap....
Truth is a higher plane of existence,however Michal Moore has everything but the truth on that matter...
Who would deal with this shameless piece of shit????Harassing extremely athoritative and respectable people and insulting their intelligence...At least Ali G and Borat did that with style,but this guy seems pretty serious what he's doing :lol:...

[nb-legenda]

I read that 1/3 US population are in debt! 1/3 of those that are in debt have more than 5000 dollars that they owe! The country is so rich... but the people, schools, churches, etc. are so damn poor! The government is like using its stupid brainwashed people and getting their taxes and everything for no reason. And don't forget the people are so stupid... education system is very poor. Down here in my school... they don't have "Geography" as a class choice!!! I asked someone "Name a country that starts with "u"".... i waited... waited... he said "I don't know..." and I said "what about this one... the United States of America"...

[Bosnian Unit]

I just said i knew how he was.... Also there are tons of people who he interviewed that saw he manipulated their interviews! As I said love him if you want but he isn't saying the truth! ONLY HIS VERSION!!!


You and eLcino saw Michael Moore name in my post and you guys EXPLODED :lol:!

But you two didnt really pay much attention or you just ignored what i exactly have said.

There is a part in his documentary when Marines go to ghetto's to search for guys who want to join US military. Now that is not fake, and by that i was just answering to you when you said US military is all that.

Ignore it much as you want to, but the fact is US military is made up by bunch of people who are desperate to make something out of their lifes, becouse if there was no military they would just be on streets or in prison.

By saying that, i also understand there are patriots like Pat Tillman OK ! But US media/government machinery try to make a hero out of him and told public that he was killed in action....so they can later made movies about this brave American who could of played football but choose to go fight for his country.....Thanx to his family and friends, there was deep investigation and its proved that GUY WAS KILLED BY HIS OWN MARINES.

Friendly fire, as they like to say....:rolleyes:


(here is something )

In 2006, the Army approved 901 waivers for felony convictions, compared to 411 such waivers in 2003. About 10 percent of the moral waivers approved in 2006 were for felony convictions. Serious criminal history waivers also grew, from 2,700 in 2003 to more than 6,000 in 2006.

The report was obtained by the California-based military think tank, Michael D. Palm Center, through a Freedom of Information Act request.

"The fact that the military has allowed more than 100,000 people with such troubled pasts to join its ranks over the past three years illustrates the problem we're having meeting our military needs in this time of war," said Aaron Belkin, director of the center.

[poutismalakas]

Dude what part of Michael Moore spins shit to his view in those films you don't understand! i would have laughed if you brought Al frankan and Randi Roads! Now if you'd brought up Janeane Garofalo i would have drooled I've been wanting to BONE her for 13 years!!!! :D

[Bosnian Unit]

There is no point for further discussion with you, since after what i said you just keep mentioning M.Moore !

Its not about Moore, i just mentioned one part of his documentary where Marines go to ghettos to serach for guys who wants to join US military.

That is not fake, and that is clearly not my whole post, so since you are probably too lazy to go on previous page, here you go....:D



(quote)

You and eLcino saw Michael Moore name in my post and you guys EXPLODED :lol:!

But you two didnt really pay much attention or you just ignored what i exactly have said.

There is a part in his documentary when Marines go to ghetto's to search for guys who want to join US military. Now that is not fake, and by that i was just answering to you when you said US military is all that.

Ignore it much as you want to, but the fact is US military is made up by bunch of people who are desperate to make something out of their lifes, becouse if there was no military they would just be on streets or in prison.

By saying that, i also understand there are patriots like Pat Tillman OK ! But US media/government machinery try to make a hero out of him and told public that he was killed in action....so they can later made movies about this brave American who could of played football but choose to go fight for his country.....Thanx to his family and friends, there was deep investigation and its proved that GUY WAS KILLED BY HIS OWN MARINES.
Friendly fire, as they like to say....:rolleyes:


(here is something )

In 2006, the Army approved 901 waivers for felony convictions, compared to 411 such waivers in 2003. About 10 percent of the moral waivers approved in 2006 were for felony convictions. Serious criminal history waivers also grew, from 2,700 in 2003 to more than 6,000 in 2006.

The report was obtained by the California-based military think tank, Michael D. Palm Center, through a Freedom of Information Act request.

"The fact that the military has allowed more than 100,000 people with such troubled pasts to join its ranks over the past three years illustrates the problem we're having meeting our military needs in this time of war," said Aaron Belkin, director of the center.

[nb-legenda]

^This guy knows everything :)

[poutismalakas]

^This guy knows everything :)
No he think he does.... He get's all this from Air America! It appears he lives in the US but....

[Bosnian Unit]

No he think he does.... He get's all this from Air America! It appears he lives in the US but....

You just have no asnwer on that post, don't try to change the subject :D!

When it comes to your ''it appears''........Well internet is great thing, you can be in Botswana, and search about something what happend or what is happening in Peru :smoking:.

And if you are interested in something, trust me you will find it.......

[poutismalakas]

You just have no asnwer on that post, don't try to change the subject :D!

When it comes to your ''it appears''........Well internet is great thing, you can be in Botswana, and search about something what happend or what is happening in Peru :smoking:.

And if you are interested in something, trust me you will find it.......

Actually I do have an answer for you it is just that I got busy at work! I'll reply by tomorrow!

[Bosnian Unit]

Actually I do have an answer for you it is just that I got busy at work! I'll reply by tomorrow!


Isn't this world interesting ? I'll go to sleep in a little bit, but someone is working out there, somewhere :D.....somewhere is night, and somewhere is day :smoking:

:Peace:

P.S. Looking forward with the discussion, we are not going anywhere so take you time :Popcorn: