Dalmatinac

[Prosinecki]

Did you watch the Cro-yug at Lotos in Stoney Creek by any chance?

[Dalmatinac]

No man, watched it at Konoba Trubadur downtown on Main...why do you ask?



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[Prosinecki]

I watched it in Oakville. I had to go a family gathering after the game in Mississauga so I wanted to be closer.

I don't know if you heard what happened after that. The serbs were coming with their flags and things got out of hand. There was at least 100 people in the plaza across the street just watching it all. I'm talking Kanadani who got a free show. Serbs were driving by with flags and screaming at the Croats Croats were kicking in the windows of the cars. Flags being ripped down, cops chasing people.

There was a group of Croats lined up against a group of serbs just about to charge each other and then the cops jumped in the middle at the last minute.

The chief of police was there watching it all happen. I wish was there. They had to close the street off for about half an hour. It was chaos.

I just thought maybe you went there to watch it.

[Dalmatinac]

Yeah, I heard all about it. It shows you the mentality of those cetniks, they tie us and they think that they are kings of the world. What can you do? In Hamilton there will always be problems between us, it's something we have to deal with.....



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[LA CRO]

Holy shit same thing in Vancouver. We were all at the Croatian Center and half an hour after the game 8 car loads of Serbs drove by and were waving flags and taughting us, and that was stupid cause we had a couple thousand in there and they got bombed on really bad. Those Serbs got stomped and it was funny cause there were black guys and chinese guys watching the game with us and they were also in on the brawl on the Croats side.

[Prosinecki]

A few of them even bought french flags after we lost to France and drove by. They got pulled over by the police just down the road from lotos. They looked about as French as I do, and the cops knew it. They got a stern warning from the cops.

[soccerchick]

How pathetic...

People aren't even allowed to celebrate without being acused of "taunting" the "opposition"....

Trully sad...this mentality...

[Prosinecki]

Soccerchick, in our world cup run, when we celebrated we stayed at lotos(a local bar) in the parking lot and on the patio and drank and had a good time. We didn't drive past any serb bars and wave our flags. When Dinamo beat partizan it was the same thing. We didn't go out of our way to taunt the serbs, we just had a good time. We didn't buy dutch flags and taunt them either.

That's the difference between celebrating and taunting.

The only truly sad thing is that some of them felt they needed to go out of their way to taunt us. They threw eggs after we beat Germany, and we even caught one of them trying to put sugar in one of the car's gas tanks. If he wasn't a 16 year old kid he would have got hurt, instead he got a trip to the police station.

[soccerchick]

I apologize if I accused the croats of being "uncivilized", cuz that wasn't my intention.

It's obvious that the serbs and croats want to get at eachother's nerves every time they get a chance (which is unfortunate).

BUT...when the french won Euro2000 (which I was very unhappy about, btw) they ran out on the streets of Toronto and waived their flags and the Italians didn't touch them.

All I'm trying to say is that, when it comes to croats and serbs, it's all politics.
I'm sure that there would have been a different scenario if Serbia and Croatia shared a prettier history.

[Prosinecki]

If you mean the French Canadians or the Quebecois you can't compare the two.

If the French drove through Little Italy and waved the flags, yes the Italians would have taken it as a slap in the face.

I hope you're not trying to say that maybe the serbs just happened to drive by lotos, and it was all just a coincidence.

[Dalmatinac]

I disagree. Maybe during the war we (as Hrvati) provoked the serbs constantly, as they did us, but since we won the war, that has stopped. After the Cro-Yug game, I was with a minimum of 100 friends, and not one person mentioned to go with our flags, and drive around the Serbian bars. It's gotten boring already. But of course, we look outside, and there's the little serbian caravan (probably the same that went to Lotos), we threw a couple of bottles at them, and that was it. What the hell is the point in trying to provoke us, I ask you that? Everytime my klapa and me rumbled with serbs (in the early 90's) we ended up in jail, and they ended up in the hospital. When will people grow up?? We have NOTHING to prove to the serbian nation, everything we have speaks for itself. People who instigate problems are insecure and lacking in self esteem and self worth. Starting problems with a large opposition makes them feel BIG!!

Hey Prosinecki, you hear of that time in 95 when we rumbled at Club FX in Miss.? That was me and my klapa, 10 of us in jail for 3 days, and 18 serbs in the emergency room.....

all because my friend had a Croatian shirt on.....6 serbs gathered around him, not knowing how many of us where there. It ended up being around 25 of us against 30 of them.(i won't mention names, but you know these guys) They smashed a bottle over my buddy's head and jumped him, real nice and fair. Well to make a long story short, scraping=jail&hospital (you pick where you want to go)

Anyways, to the people who still think it's 1995 and that you are 18, GROW THE FU(K UP!!!

Adio Kumpani:-)



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[Aussie-Bosanac]

dalmatinac,
neke stvari pravo govoris ali ako mislis da ce ti iko povjerovati da hodas sa "klapom" od preko 100 ljudi onda si pomahnito

malo ohladi i nemoj pretjeravati, sve ostalo je u redu ali nisi covjece clan "mafie" ili nekog desetog govneta

mozda i jeste bilo 100njak ljudi tu ali nemoj govoriti da su ti "100 friends"

budi pozdravljen i nemoj se sada poceti vrijedjati ko neki majmuni ovdje, samo ti kazem da malo osjecam da si pretjero

[Dalmatinac]

I understand what you are saying, and no I did not take offense, if I read what I wrote I would think the same thing of something else. However, the last time something like this went down, there was 80 people at the "get together"(over 18 car loads). So please do not make comments about individuals who you do not know personaly.

Pozdrav iz Bile Kanade....

adio

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[Mihajloviç]

Dalmatinac, you sound like a tough guy, throwing bottles and shit. You're true hardcore buddy.

[Dalmatinac]

Miha, Something that you'll experience first hand in a couple of days!

See you soon!

Adio (which means with god, how ironic?)



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[BBB]

Dalmatinac, daj se malo kalmaj, baren ode. Nebi tija da mi ode dovedeš srbe da se naseravaju. Aj tamo u njihov forum pa ih seri - nemoj ode!

[Mihajloviç]

Nemojte da dolazite na nas forum. Nisam dosao ovde da serem, ni nemam plana da ostanem ovde.

[LA CRO]

I agree with mihaijlovic, what the hell are you guys doing on their boards anyways. For the most part they stick to their own boards why dont you guys stick with ours. I find it stupid when Im going on the Yugo board just to see whats up with this battle and I see boards started by BBB or Prosinecki or whatever. If you like writing with them stay on the Serb board then but if you want to avoid conflict stick to your own.

[gambine]

Pros never started a topic on the Yugo board, didn't even start a fight there. He had a little battle with Ivan, but I don't think he instigated it.

[AusDelija]

OK,,I ain't to here to start shit or anything like that.

What has freaked me out about the Serb/Cro thing in Canada is that you fight!!

Here in Aus...i can't remember the last time there was a fight like that. There was one between the Cro's and Greek a few years ago at a soccer match....but personally i don't think that serbs and cro's hate each other as much here in Aus as in Canada. Let me rephrase we probably do hate each other as much but we have learned to tolerate each other.

For example on my soccer team there are a couple of cro's....i am 21 and they are around 25/26...we constantly tease each other about each others nationallity....i call them dickheads, they call me dickheads. When i wear my Jug or Red star jersey to training.......they rumble me(muck around) but never do we wanna kill each other.

If i meet a cro at a club or something we don't start fighting....we talk, drink, do what ever and go our seperate ways!!

In canada are people in gangs and shit like that. Serbs one gang, Cro's another, and then the Italians... Blacks,,, Asians,,, Assyrians etc,etc!!

Please explain it to me.

[soccerchick]

AusDelia, I don't think that there are any gangs....and this Cro-Serb conflict that you heard about from Dalmatinac (or whomever) is not as BAD as he made it sound. I guess there were a few incidences (that weren't even publicized, as far as I know) and the only reason he knows about them was because he was somehow, in some way, connected to them.

I, for example, feel no anymosity towards Croats, Bosnians (or anyone, for that matter). One of my best friends is from Bosnia...my dad has a best friend whom he's known for years who's also bosnian...

So, I'm gonna say it again, this Cro-Serb conflict here in Canada is not really as bad as some people make it sound. They appearantly get just off on beating people up and being involved in public fights and rumbles, and then bragging about then on the net.


Peace.

[gambine]

It isn't a matter of gangs so to speak. A lot of ethnic groups stick together, so it's not uncommon to go out with 30 people to a club. Then one group meets up with another group, and a fight could happen.

I don't think Dalmatinac means this happened every night, but it happened enough for it to be an almost common thing.

Hamilton is definately very ethnic oriented. Ethnic groups really stick together, probably more so than anywhere else in the surrounding area.

[LA CRO]

Hey Aus-Delij it is true in sense. Since I came to Vancouver from Los Angeles I did notice in Canada people stick with their own more, so that leads to conflict lets say if at a club a Croat wears a Croat kit or vice versa and a person is with lets say 20 of his friends and drink a little liquid courage and say look at the Croat or Serb lets ***k with him, then a brawl happens and it's on. I heard a story a little while ago that during the war the Croatian Vancouver church got three bullets fired at it with a low caliber gun then the Croats retaliated by unloading a 9mm clip at the Serb church. It's weird but it's the truth. But in the same instance if the same people were by themselves lets say at work or something and found out they work with a Serb or Croat they would probably talk or hang around.

What happened with the brawl between the Croats and Greeks? How did it start?

[AusDelija]

I don't think it's as bad here. I think Australia is more multicultural than Canada.(i think) So everybody is a bit more tolerent of each other.

It was a semi-final game a few years ago..Sydney United(cro team) Vs Sydney Olympic(Greek team). I ain't too sure how it started but somebody told that a Greek yelled something at a cro player then the cro players friend, who was in the stands, said something to the greek.....and so on. That's how the trouble started...chairs were thrown, cops were hit, people arrested.

[Mihajloviç]

Here all groups are divided...Serbs, Croats, Asians, Spanish...whatever


The serb gang of course is the slingers.

[LA CRO]

It's also multicultural here also but everyone wants to be the pravi Hrvat or pravi Serb if you know what I mean. It's like the Serbs are like Im a pravi Serb I dont like those Hrvati and vice versa. It's also like when Italy lost on sunday the French Canadians walked down Commerial St. and the Italians freaked out and there was almost a massive brawl but the cops stepped in. If I could phrase it all up I would say everyone has a huge amount of pride for their countries of origin because in Canada your made to remember your roots and their is nothing really that idenifies being Canadian but while your in America your made to believe your American and nothing else so the ethnic tensions between europeans is very minimal.

[AusDelija]

Pravi Cro, Pravi Serb, Veliki Cro, Veliki Serb is all crap....if your Serb your Serb if you Cro your Cro. Don't get me wrong here in Aus everybody is brought up with their own roots and culture...I mean what culture do the aussies have? Go to the footy or go to the pub that's about it. We have serbian dance party's, Cro dance party's etc. and that is where they hang out when they want to mingle with there own.

Hey i still dance folkore...it's f@#ken mad. If you wanna meet a nice serbian or in your case cro girl....folklore is a sure bet.

[soccerchick]

Actually, I believe that Canada is probably the most multicultural country in the world.

There are slightly over a 120 different languages spoken in Toronto alone.

[LA CRO]

hahahahahaha, shit you could say that again, the best chicks are the ones in folklore or Croatian and Serbian breakdancing.

[Dalmatinac]

You are all right, but also wrong. Number 1, Canada is one of the most ethnically influenced country in the world. We have a multi-cultural mix that is second only to the USA. I don't hate all Serbs, that would be a primitive way of thinking. I think a Cro would stab me in the back before a serb (the Cro would be very comfortable with me, while the Serb would have to make large sacrifices to be in my company, as in with other EXTREMIST Serbs etc. The Serb would have to end up disassociating from the EXTREMIST crowd to have a coffee with me, while I wouldn't expect it from the CRO leaving the CRO a better chance to stab me. It's happened many times to many people.)

The PROBLEM is these villagers who walk around screaming CETNIKS and USTASE! People, this shit happened during the world war, and FASICISM IS DEAD. Ustase did not give us our free Croatia, and CETNIKS never accomplished shit, so no need to mention nothing about them. HDZ, HOS, HVO, and Tudjman won us our independance, not fu(king Pavelic or anyone else. My cousin and uncle died with TRECA SIBENSKA BRIGADA on their sleves, not no fu(king U's (for ustasa).

This is my opinion. In the year 2000, we have to learn to tolerate each other, that's it. I don't go looking to fight any serb I see. I DON'T POST "KILL ALL SERBS" on the internet. I never once used any type of USTASA propoganda here, am I wrong? Do you think we can have a prosperous country (Croatia) by being racist for the rest of time against muslims, serbs and whoever else? The people who want that, want Croatia to be a village that only Croatians can visit and live in. Look at any other successful country in the world, and you will see a mixture of numerous ethnical backrounds. I DO NOT FORGIVE MILOSEVIC FOR WHAT HE DID TO OUR COUNTRY AND OUR PEOPLE, GOD DAMMIT EVER MAY I HAVE TO PRAY FOR MY DEAD UNCLE AND COUSIN, however, I cannot blame every person who is Serbian for the actions of one,or one hundred men. I don't have to love them, but I can tolerate them.

Now, you probably ask why I write these diplomatic words, but write how I want to smash Mihajlovic's head in. Mihajlovic is the villager CETNIK who does not believe in tolerance. He does not believe in co-existence, as you can read in his post where he writes "DEATH TO CROATIA". I know that he is a 17 year old kid, raised by peasants, but who will teach this kid diplomacy? Does this kid know that if he goes to Beograd talking that shit that he sill get his head kicked in by SERBS? Does he know that CETNIKS killed the serbs who didn't join the brigades? Does he know that the majority of PARTIZANI were serbs, and that their mortal enemies were the CETNIKS and USTASE? This kid is spreading the word of a military faction that can't be found in history books, due to their insignificance. A faction that hid in the hills untill they outnumbered the opposition, so they can attack and show victory. A faction that was led my a serbian peasant drunk misfit, General Draza Mihajlovic.

I dare any cetnik to go to yugoslavia ( an urban area ) and talk their shit. Just like an Ustasa talking politics in the middle of Zagreb, NO ONE CARES NOR WANTS TO HEAR IT!

SO UNDERSTAND THIS, ALL OF YOU WHO ARE UNAWARE, this is the year 2000, and there are no CETNIKS or USTASE. If they were so great, why the ***k did they not win the war when they were active? BECAUSE THEY ARE BOTH FASISTIC FUNDAMENTAL GROUPS. Please, even you Croats, do you think if pavelic won the war, that Croatia would still be a Puppet state of Germany? Get real. Enjoy the way it is now, Democratic, and an integral part of Europe. And we didn't need the Nazi's to do it.

Did we fight alot in the war, as gambine said, yes, it was alomst an everyday occurance. But now, since we won the war, and have our free Croatia, you exremist Serbs CAN'T offend me. Your the ones trying to get back in Croatia, but Slobo won't let you (read the damn papers, both Sreb and Croat) Croatian President Mesic has opened the doors to all former Croatian Serbs, and the line is immense in Serbia, or should I say Yugoslavia to get out, but your own borders are more dangerous than the Croatian now. Even the Montenegrian president met with Mesic to apologize for the bombings of Dubrovnik during the war, trying to mend ties with the Croats, in preparation for conflict with the current Yugoslav government.

Enough for now.....hope you all understand it a little better, and remember, be an individual with morals and ethics to make your culture proceed into the future. Let the peasants farm the land and gossip all they want. I've never seen a peasant professor, have you?

Adio

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[Mihajloviç]

Dalmatinac , your post is too long to read. I only read the part that was directed to me. You still think like an idiot.

[Mihajloviç]

Dalmatinac, koje si godiste ?

[Dalmatinac]

MIHA, let me summarize for you, because you obviously have an issue with reading....

YOU ARE A PEASANT, RAISED BY PEASANTS, AND WILL GROW UP AND DIE A PEASANT. HOW YOU FIGURED OUT TO USE THAT COMPUTER AMAZES ME, HOW MANY COWS DID YOUR FAMILY SELL TO GET YOU THAT COMMODORE?

Understand now?

My age you will find out for yourself in 2 days...........

Adio!

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[AusDelija]

What you said is fair enough...i don't know so won't argue, just one thing...You said "You extremist serbs can't offend me". Well, you did get offended by Miha...didn't you?

[LA CRO]

Hey Dalmatinac I agree fully with what you have to say but people in general are composed of there past or experiences in the past and it must not be forgoten.
I wont diss the Ustasa but I dont agree with it. The Ustasa were Croatian Freedom Fighters which from I heard started Split who at first fought for Croatian rights with Ustasa meaning to rebel. Listen if I sound Im for them excuse me but Im not but I agree with the early mentality of when they first started fighting for Croatian rights in a time when you couldnt say you were Croatian. Why do we have more people outside of Croatia(if you add all generations of Croatian Emigres)then in Croatia. But what went wrong was that the Ustasa wanted an independant Croatia and the West didnt want to back them up but the mad man Hitler was the only one listening to them. I dont condone a killing off of a people but I believe that the Ustasa linking with Hitler was a horrible move but they didnt have a choice for a free Croatia at the time cause no one else was listening to them. WHat happened is history and from history you learn from mistakes and if you like it's part of our history. You say what did the Ustasa do? Well they tried to get an independant Croatia but they went in partnership with a madman in a facist type way.

[Dalmatinac]

AusD,

Miha is not an extremist serb. Miha is an individual lacking in self esteem and education, who associates himself with a military faction known for raping old women, killing children,etc, of Croatians and Serbians, not to mention Bosnians and Mulsims..

An extremist serb to me is an educated person who can provid me facts on issues such as why they think that Knin is serbian, why Dalmatia is serbian, etc. Those are the people that I can discuss things with and provide facts to contra their misconceptions.

Miha simply said "death to croatia", making him, as I said, an immature, uneducated individual, or better yet a peasant cetnik. Why don't you end your post with "DEATH TO CROATIA"? Probably because you are mature enough to understand that a statement like that is meaningless, and proves that the person is frustrated. However, one should think before he says something, because the wrong person may read it, right? This crap between me an that peasant Miha would never have happened if he would never had wrote that. It's that simple. You have the right to glorify your culture and country as much as you want, but don't insult me, my family, and the country my family died for. I had to go to the fu(king funeral and bury my family, my family that risked their lives so CETNIKS would not come and raped my aunt and female cousin and steal our home. While this fu(k Miha was having a good time in Canada along with his refugee family, me and mine were in Croatia during the peak of everything. I buried my uncle and cousin in 94, stayed a year to watch my other cousin and aunt, then came back to make some money to feed them. That's the difference between me and Miha, I lived it, and lived through it, not only alone, but brought my family through it too. It must be nice to sleep without worrying if a bomb is going to fall on your head, no?

Enough of these explanations.....now I'm re-living shit I plan on releasing on FRIDAY NIGHT WITH THIS FU(KING PEASANT WHO GLORIFIES THE FU(Ks WHO KILLED MY UNCLE AND COUSIN......


Adio.


Nothing against you Aus, but I'm losing it now................

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[Purger II]

I don't think that we, the Serbs and Croats, should stick only to our own forums, thus making them ghettoes. The relations between Serbs and Croats will never progress if we do not communicate. However, my suggestion would be to talk football here on Croatian forum and also on Yugoslavian one, while all the other stuff should be discussed on "Away from Soccer". Aus-Delija's post is a great one, especially where he says that Serbs and Croats in Australija do hate each others, but also have learned to tolerate each others. That's the approach we should all try on this message board, since any forceful reconciliation would be unrealistic one, while the disadvantages of an opened war I guess I do not have to explain in details, do I?

[Aussie-Bosanac]

damn you people wrote so much in one day...

about that fight between the cro's and the greeks, a man (youth) from the greek side started yelling out "Vukovar" and "ther is more to come" to the Croatian supporters and then it was all on. Sydney United (the Cro based team nearly got expelled from the National League coz they broke every rule of conduct, they beat the ***k out of the Greeks). Since then all ethnically based teams had to change their team names and amblems to exclude things such as "HELLAS South Melbourne", "Sydney Croatia" and so on... much better that they did this. Why limit players from one Ethnic background to play for their desired or local teams and clubs??

What Ausdelija said is pretty true, i havnt heard of any fights bewteen the former-Yugo people in the past few years, there were some while the wars were still on but now things have comed down and i guess people are geting used to living side by side (after all this is a foreign country to all of us).
Thats how it should be, but ofcourse there are those boys who like to drive through the streets with their Kokarde and their Sahovnice sa U...but they are becoming rarer and rarer

see people, we can all have half a civilised conversation among us if we try hard enough even if its about politics. But i still cant wait to hear what happens this weekend hehehehe hope Miha comes back with a clearer head (or even with a head would be a bonus).

zbogom Balkanci

[Mihajloviç]

Dalmatinac, seljacino....I told you not to be a tough guy over the internet, and u still try so hard, maybe one day, you will be a tough boy, and go back to croatia and kill those men that "raped" your family or whatever the fu(k you were lying about.

[Mihajloviç]

Drugim hrvatima koji mi nisu psovali majku , i nisu srali protiv moje zemlje se izvinjavam, al to ovde samo ide LA CRO i Prosineckiu. Kad se sa nekim svadjas onda kazes nesta sta nemislis, i tako je to.

[Dalmatinac]

We'll figure everything out tomorrow. Don't worry....

You still have to tell where you are going to be........stop changing the dates....

Adio!

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[Zvonimir]

Dalmatinac-let me ask you this...Do you really think the little kid Miha will actually show up to meet you? I can virtually gaurantee he won't. So I think you'll just be wasting your time and gas...

The chances of him showing up are the same as of the Yugos ever winning anything in football-none!

[Dalmatinac]

You're probably right Zvone, and to tell you the truth I feel like a "bird" going down to Kitchener and rumbling with some kid. I should grow up and say "***k it". We'll see what happens......but now you know Miha's head is blowing up along with his ego. I'll have to see what happens, and how much I drink tomorrow:-)

Anyways guys, I'm off to Cro Sunday morning, 4 weeks in beautiful Split drinking Bevande on the Riva. That's why I can't meet that kid on Saturday night, because my friends are throwing a bash for me in Streetsville, and that CETNIK isn't worth me calling that of, unless I take my boys with me...hmmmm??


Adio judi,


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[LA CRO]

Hey Dalmatinac have a blast in Split and when ya get pissed on Saturday take a shot of the best shooter for me. Hope ya have a good time and stay out of trouble.

[Zvonimir]

Dalmatinac-have a great time my brother!

Little Miha and the rest of his sisters can only dream of going to beautiful Croatia ever again...

[Mihajloviç]

Dalmatinac I told you I cannot be there friday. You are stupid , get it through your head, I CANNOT BE THERE FRIDAY! I told you about 50 times now. Right from the beginning I said come to enigma, Saturday night , 11.30 pm , parking lot. And again, because you're so fu(king stupid, I repeat, Saturday night, Enigma, 11.30 pm, parking lot. How can you be so dumb man ? Do you know what you're dealing with ?

[Dalmatinac]

LOL, read the original posts, I SAID FRIDAY.WHY DON'T YOU GET IT THROUGH YOUR HEAD? What am I dealing with? I'm dealing with a little shit who's banging his chest and praying that his "gangster" friends show up to confront me. Peasant, go the fu(k away, this is beginning to bore me. Trust me, I have nothing to prove by kicking your head in, and you're such a dumb fu(k if you don't think I could do it.....

YOU ARE A CHILD MAN! AS I SAID BEFORE, YOU'RE PROBABLY WAITING TO SUE ME OR SOME SHIT, SO YOU CAN HAVE MY CAR AND SOME $$$.

Stop pretending that your some big shit over there, dude, you're from fu(king kitchener for Christ's sake.....DO you understand that there are 10 bikers sitting in THE NETWORK right now that I can get to meet you on Sat. instead of me wasting my time with you? Fu(k man you're soo stupid, not me.....Just give it up....this is funny already. Who are you going to get, the "Serbian Gangbangers of KW"???? Dumbass, you don't interest me anymore....go away.......

Guys, thanks for the nice words, I'LL post some pics up when I get back. I'll be in ZG for the SuperCup with TORCIDA SPLIT! and in SPLIT for the Hajduk-Dunaferr game. I'll let you know how it was.

Adio Judi!!




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[AusDelija]

Aus Balija

You were right but they were already called Sydney United, Mel Knight...etc,,etc..They had to change there logo's from the sahovnica to something else...same with the greeks and Italians....no ethnic symbols.

[Mihajloviç]

Dalmatinac , ajde ponasaj se fino :)

Jesi cuo za slingerse ?

[Dalmatinac]

Slingers, nope......

The only gangs that ever came out of Kitchener were the Highlanders and the Reds, never heard of any slingers.......

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[gambine]

haha

Dalmatinac, it's good to see someone else who uses that word "bird".

Kind of makes me feel at home here.

Miha, I'm not taking sides against you here, but come on, the slingers?? You've gotta be kidding. Kitchener is full of peasants, always was, always will be.

I went to Lyric a few years back, and a little problem started. We kicked arse. It wasn't even a fight. The bouncers were helpless. It got so bad, that our own guys were protecting the guys we were beating on, and telling the bouncers to get lost, because they had it under control. No word of a lie man. The next day the paper read "Organized hamilton youth gang terrorizes kitchener"

Look, you said something you shouldn't have, and I think you know that. It isn't worth getting into a fight. So if Dalmatinac shows, and you bring as many people as you can and you guys win, do you think it'll end there. When you fight, it's one on one, once you bring more people into it, you better be able to back it up, and I'm gonna tell yo now, that the "slingers" can't back it up. Believe me when I tell you that I don't have to know them to know they can't back it up. You have to decide if it's really worth it.

I think you can avoid this if you apologize for your comment of "death to Croatia".

Pros is my good buddy, so if you say death to Croatia, surely you mean death to Pros as well, seeing as how he's Croatian. He's said nothing bad to you or to Serbs on this board.

Miha, you're a 17 year old kid, you haven't been around, and you don't know what's really out there. You never know what you're up against, and you can say whatever you like on the internet, but people aren't stupid.

I'm not taking sides against you, I'm telling you my honest opinion here.

Dalmatinac could be a nobody, but what if he's not?? What then?? AFter it's all said and done, it'll be a situation that could have been easily avoided, that arose from emotions getting out of control over the net.

Hell man, think long and hard about what you're getting yourself into.

[Aussie-Bosanac]

aus delija
you see i tried nice with you once again but you reply like that...sooooooo JEBOOOO ti balija mater po stoti put.

kao drugo, majmune glupi, takozvani "Sydney United Pumas" se sve do prije dvije godine zvao "Sydney Croatia".....nisam nista spomenuo o Melbourne Knights coravi stvore ali jesam o South Melbourn-u
koji kurac seres kad ti nije mjesto??? jesam te isacim vrijedjo s mojom porukom??? ne nisam zato JEBI SE jos jednom i narasti materti, kazes da ti je 22 godine a ponasas se gore od Mihajlovica...
stoko jedna

[Mihajloviç]

Aussie-Bosanac, why do you jump into this ? You are no part of this so get lost....gambine, Dalmatinac and I have solved the problem, and there will be no problems anymore......and gambine, dont tell me you're not taking sides here man.

Anyways, if I am a kid , what are you guys ? Geeeee , you must be like 40-50 years old ???

[Mihajloviç]

Aussie-Bosanac, by the way you talk I wouldnt even say that you are 13 years old, you talk like a disturbed little kid who has no friends and tells everybody that he has a fake girlfriend while whacking it every night on the computer. Reveal the truth little jerk off.

[Zvonimir]

hey Miha-WE are still waiting for your apology....

[Mihajloviç]

Well, keep waiting :)

[Dalmatinac]

Miha, Gambine is one of my Tony Creek paesans, we stick together in this arean, here Italians and Croatians are like brothers almost :D I don't think he meant to insult you, just to say what he thought.

Gambine, what high school did you go to, NewM (east,west) or BR?

Adio....

And yes, the shit between me and Miha is settled, we met to scrap last night, and as soon as we were going to start a whole bunch of Pakistani's and chinese people jumped us, leaving us too tired to fight each other, only able to use words to settle the conflict.... :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D

Adio judi!

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--TORCIDA je ZAKON!!--
SAMO HAJDUK ZIVI VJECNO

[Mihajloviç]

hehehe

It was THE BLOOOOOODS. :D

lol

[gambine]

Dalmatinac, I actually went to high school in London, just moved here after that. A funny thing is that when someone finds out you're Italian from Tony Creek, they always ask if you went to Newman. Usually I just say yes, just to make them happy, :) Pros went to east though, and I'm sure you guys know each other. :)

Miha, I wasn't taking sides. I don't even know Dalmatinac. Maybe I feel a little kinship with em, after all, HAMILTON IS TOP A DA FOOD CHAIN. :D :D bI was just saying I didn't think it was a good idea. We all thought we were invincible when we were 17, everybody does. I'm just saying that mentality can get you into trouble, and it's not worth it over a fight on the internet.

[Mihajloviç]

I tried to post a response to your post gambine, but it wouldnt work. I dont feel like retyping it, so I'll just leave it like it is.

[Prosinecki]

Boze sacuvaj, what the hell happened while I was gone?

Anyways, good to see things have been resolved.

Miha, last time I went to Kitchener, everybody was wearing jean overalls, plaid shirts with straw hats, and cleaning their teeth with weeds!! Quite a few of them were missing teeth too! I asked a group of guys what's good to do in Kitchener, and they said they like to go cow tipping :D :D

People were cruisin down King street and blarin Stompin' Tom Connors on their radios. :D

What's up with that?

[AusDelija]

First of all i want to apologise for Aus Balija's remarks. Second of all i want to ask everybody did i say anything to balija to deserve such a response?

Aus Balija

Sydney Croatia changed their name in 1993, the brawl happened after that year so then all the ethnic teams such as syd united, south mel, mel knights etc etc,,,had to change their logo's. All the teams had to change the ethnic names back in 93 not a couple of years ago as you said. Go check out http://ozsoccer.thehub.com.au/ark/NSLclubs/SUHist.html for Syd United's history.

As i recall i didn't say anything bad to you in my last post. You can write english so that everybody can understand what you are writing....once again i have said nothing bad to you i have just put down facts.