View Full Version : Giuliani dropping out of Republican race
poutismalakas
01-30-2008, 06:00 PM
SO MUCH FOR B-unit's conspiricy theory of Giuliani being the next US President becuase Jews are manipulating the votes :rolleyes:
AFP/Getty Images Slide show: Slice of the Big Apple
Former Mayor Rudy Giuliani’s life has shined in the limelight of New York City.
updated 1 hour, 26 minutes ago
ORLANDO, Florida - Rudy Giuliani told supporters Wednesday he is abandoning his bid for president and backing Republican rival and longtime friend John McCain.
Rep. Peter King, a New York Republican and adviser to Giuliani, said the former mayor called him Wednesday morning to tell him of his plan.
"I expect him to be fairly active for McCain. There is a real friendship and respect between the two," he said. A similar call took place between Giuliani and New York Senate Majority Leader Joe Bruno, the lawmaker said in a statement.
Saraj Fanático
01-30-2008, 08:17 PM
McCain will be the republican representative. I don't see much competition there.
poutismalakas
01-30-2008, 10:12 PM
Romney could get it as well???
Bosnian Unit
01-31-2008, 07:57 PM
:thumb:
No excuses for that poutismalakas !
But you can't say that they dont controle the votes.
Basicly one will win who have the most delegates at the end of the race, not becouse of popularity votes.
So basicly that is not a democracy, people dont choose president's the DELEGATES do.
Giuliani should drop off the face of the Earth. It would benefit us all.
Ron Paul is still in it :D
13Ballack13
01-31-2008, 08:25 PM
Giuliani owns haha he did his job well :smoking::smoking:
poutismalakas
01-31-2008, 09:14 PM
:thumb:
No excuses for that poutismalakas !
But you can't say that they dont controle the votes.
Basicly one will win who have the most delegates at the end of the race, not becouse of popularity votes.
So basicly that is not a democracy, people dont choose president's the DELEGATES do.
You are correct we are not a Democracy we are a Republic :sad: I believe the electoral votes should be done away with! BUt the same time to the ONLY way top get those elector4al votes is to WIN the popular votes in each state. Whomever win in a state gets all of those votes. And since those votes are based on state population.... hence the reason why Bush Jr was able to win in 2000
poutismalakas
01-31-2008, 09:14 PM
Giuliani should drop off the face of the Earth. It would benefit us all.
Why do you hate Rudy????
poutismalakas
01-31-2008, 09:32 PM
see here B Unit
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Electoral_College
The United States Electoral College is a term used to describe the 538 Presidential Electors who meet every 4 years to cast the electoral votes for President and Vice President of the United States. The Presidential Electors are elected by the popular vote on the day traditionally called election day. Presidential Electors meet in their respective state capitol buildings (or in the District of Columbia) on the first Monday after the second Wednesday in December (per 3 U.S.C. § 7), never as a national body. At the 51 meetings, held on the same day, the Electors cast the electoral votes. As such, the collectivity of the 51 groups is the technical definition of the college, despite never convening together. The electoral college system, like the national convention, is an indirect element in the process of electing the president.
The original mechanics of presidential elections were established by Article II, Section 1, Clause 3 of the United States Constitution. The Twelfth Amendment revised those mechanics, including that each Elector vote separately for President and Vice President. Today, the mechanics of the Presidential election are administered by the National Archives and Records Administration via its Office of the Federal Register.
Electors are chosen in a series of state elections held on the same day (election day). The number of electoral votes of each state is the sum of its number of U.S. Senators (always two) and its U.S. Representatives; the District of Columbia has the same number of votes it would if it had Senators and Representatives (currently three).[1] In each state, voters vote for a slate of pre-selected candidates for Presidential Elector, representing the various candidates for President. State ballots, however, are designed to suggest that the voters are voting for actual candidates for President. Most states use what is termed the short ballot, in which a vote for one party (such as Democratic or Republican) is interpreted as a vote for the entire slate of Presidential Electors. In these states, with rare exceptions, one party wins the entire electoral vote of the state (by either plurality or majority). Maine and Nebraska choose Presidential Electors using what is termed the District Method, which makes it possible for the voters to choose Electors of different political parties and split the electoral vote of these two states.
The Presidential Electors of each state (and DC) meet to cast their electoral votes 41 days following the popular vote. The Electors ballot first for President, then for Vice President. On rare occasions, an Elector does not cast the electoral vote for the party's national ticket, usually as a political statement; these people are called faithless Electors. Each Elector signs a document entitled the Certificate of Vote which sets forth the electoral vote of the state (or DC). One original Certificate of Vote is sent by certified mail to the Office of the Vice President.
One month following the casting of the electoral votes, the U.S. Congress meets in joint session to declare the winner of the election. If a candidate for President receives the vote of 270 or more Presidential Electors, the presiding officer (usually the sitting Vice President) declares that candidate to be the President-elect, and a candidate for vice president receiving 270 or more electoral votes is similarly declared to be the Vice President-elect.
The nature of the process and its complication have been critiqued, with its detractors raising several alternative means of electing the president. This issue was revisited following the Presidential Election of 2000 when Democratic candidate Al Gore received the plurality of the national vote, but failed to win the majority of the Electoral College. Advocates of the current system have similarly set forth arguments for its advantages.
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Bosnian Unit
02-01-2008, 09:10 PM
Yes i see but still quiet dont understand that, its complicated :D
Basicly states with 3,4 or 5(wich are less populated states) delegates would never see presidental candidate becouse most of them would go to states wich are more populated like California,Texas and such.
At the end of the day i think president should be the one most people voted for !
poutismalakas
02-01-2008, 10:05 PM
Yes i see but still quiet dont understand that, its complicated :D
Basicly states with 3,4 or 5(wich are less populated states) delegates would never see presidental candidate becouse most of them would go to states wich are more populated like California,Texas and such.
At the end of the day i think president should be the one most people voted for !
I agree the reason it's setup like this is because the founding fathers understood that most people didn't have the education to vote so they wanted a redundent systems setup?? I think it should be done away with now!!!
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