Republika Srpska Politics

[Milos_]

Its only fair:)


http://www.srpska.bl.ac.yu/slike/rs2.jpg

Hopefully RS leaves Yugo III soon.

[Mak]

Some of the mujos, who seem to have taken over this site, may not like it Milos but you speak the truth. The question isn't if it will separate but when because it's apparent this failed state will never survive.

[Centarfor9]

I wonder what will be the name of this entity.

The new flag is being drawn as we speak but there is no agreement yet.

This entity is created via ethinic cleansing and genocide. Accoring to the Bosnian Constitution and Dayton Accord the only way this entity can separate is if all Bosnia agrees to it via referendum.

p.s. Mujo is my dad's name. :) I like to be called Huso but there are, i'm sure of it Haso, Aljo, Sema, Kema, Juka, Mire, Zulfo, Avdo i.t.d. on this site

[Mak]

I wonder what will be the name of this entity.

The new flag is being drawn as we speak but there is no agreement yet.

This entity is created via ethinic cleansing and genocide. Accoring to the Bosnian Constitution and Dayton Accord the only way this entity can separate is if all Bosnia agrees to it via referendum.

Well according to Yugoslav law, the only way Bosnia could get independence is with the agreement of all three ethnic groups there and we saw how that turned out.

They already have a flag and name in Serbia don't worry. And spare us the nonsense about genocide. The fact is all sides had an equal ratio of civilian deaths to the population of those ethnic groups. But I forgot, Serbs are the only ones who committed crimes and are responsible for everything bad :lol: Sorry

[Centarfor9]

Well according to Yugoslav law, the only way Bosnia could get independence is with the agreement of all three ethnic groups there and we saw how that turned out.
64% people voted in bosnia and 99.4% voted for independence

in croatia same thing

They already have a flag and name in Serbia don't worry. And spare us the nonsense about genocide.
it's a fact

Bosnia Genocide, Bosnia Massacres, Bosnia Human Rights Violations (http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/bosnia_genocide.htm)

The fact is all sides had an equal ratio of civilian deaths to the population of those ethnic groups.
not true but you can believe it

But I forgot, Serbs are the only ones who committed crimes and are responsible for everything bad :lol: Sorry
according to UN 95% of all war crimes were commited by serbs

those who started the wars and did ethinic cleansing, massacres, genocide, rapes of woman and children are the ones who are and should be blamed

[poutismalakas]

Sorry BUT I have ZERO trust in anything the UN says!

[Centarfor9]

Sorry BUT I have ZERO trust in anything the UN says!
same here

those figures are closer to 99%

[poutismalakas]

same here

those figures are closer to 99%
AS with ALL wars no one is innocent! Both sides do, have, and will commit horrible things in the name of religion, country, and clan!

[Centarfor9]

AS with ALL wars no one is innocent! Both sides do, have, and will commit horrible things in the name of religion, country, and clan!
yes but sometimes one side starts the war, commits 95-99% of all war crimes and with that genocide and ethinic cleansing in that case that side is to be blamed


also there is talk about Serbia having to declassify documents about war on bosnia so the rulling about bosnia is not final...bosnia is given 10 years to appeal the sentance that excluded Serbia of doing the genocide but sentenced that Republika Srpska and Army of Republika Srpska committing genocide and ethnic cleansing...Serbia was also sentenced that it failed to prevent genocide

[poutismalakas]

If the Turks can get away with the Armenian issue then why not the Serbs?

[poutismalakas]

I found this

The death toll after the war was originally estimated at around 200,000 by the Bosnian government. They also recorded around 1,326,000 refugees and exiles.

Today, it is generally estimated that around 100,000 Bosnians and Herzegovinians - Bosniak, Serb and Croat - were killed in the war.

Research done by the International Criminal Tribunal in 2004 by Tibeau and Bijak determined a more precise number of 102,000 deaths and estimated the following breakdown: 55,261 were civilians and 47,360 were soldiers. Of the civilians, 16,700 were Serbs while 38,000 were Bosniaks and Croats. Of the soldiers, 14,000 were Serbs, 6,000 were Croats, and 28,000 were Bosniaks.[12]

Another research was conducted by the Sarajevo-based Research and Documentation Center (RDC) that was based on creating lists and databases, rather than providing estimates. ICTY's Demographic Unit in the Hague, provide a similar total death toll, but a somewhat different ethnic distribution.[13] As of October 2006 the count of the number of casualties has reached 97,884.[14] Further research is ongoing.

Large discrepancies in all these estimates are generally due to the inconsistent definitions of who can be considered victims of the war. Some research calculated only direct casualties of the military activity while other also calculated indirect casualties, such as those who died from harsh living conditions, hunger, cold, illnesses or other accidents indirectly caused by the war conditions. Original higher numbers were also used as many victims were listed twice or three times both in civilian and military columns as little or no communication and systematic coordination of these lists could take place in wartime conditions. Manipulation with numbers is today most often used by historical revisionist to change the character and the scope of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. However, most of above independent studies have not been accredited by either government involved in the conflict and there are no single official results that are acceptable to all sides.
It should not be discounted that there were also significant casualties on the part of International Troops in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Some 320 soldiers of UNPROFOR were killed during this conflict in Bosnia.

[Centarfor9]

If the Turks can get away with the Armenian issue then why not the Serbs?
yeah but did they get away from it?


even if they did...your proposition makes no sense

[Pape]

make love... not war

[Centarfor9]

make love... not war
i agree

however the first step to peace is bringing those responsible for genocide to face the justice

[Mak]

64% people voted in bosnia and 99.4% voted for independence

in croatia same thing


You don't get it do you. 99% in Republika Srpska would vote for independence. The fact is, according to Yugoslav constitution, all three ethnic groups had to agree, and clearly this condition was not met.


it's a fact

Bosnia Genocide, Bosnia Massacres, Bosnia Human Rights Violations (http://www.unitedhumanrights.org/Genocide/bosnia_genocide.htm)

Yes, its a fact because some random NGO said it was. :lol: The same site blames "Milosevic's forces," when the ICJ just acquitted Serbia. That's funny.

according to UN 95% of all war crimes were commited by serbs

those who started the wars and did ethinic cleansing, massacres, genocide, rapes of woman and children are the ones who are and should be blamed

According to who? Your imaginary numbers and friends. People like you, who try to argue this nonsense with a straight face are only good to laugh at. Clearly politics are not for you, maybe you should concern yourself with simpler things.

[Mak]

I found this

The death toll after the war was originally estimated at around 200,000 by the Bosnian government. They also recorded around 1,326,000 refugees and exiles.

Today, it is generally estimated that around 100,000 Bosnians and Herzegovinians - Bosniak, Serb and Croat - were killed in the war.

Research done by the International Criminal Tribunal in 2004 by Tibeau and Bijak determined a more precise number of 102,000 deaths and estimated the following breakdown: 55,261 were civilians and 47,360 were soldiers. Of the civilians, 16,700 were Serbs while 38,000 were Bosniaks and Croats. Of the soldiers, 14,000 were Serbs, 6,000 were Croats, and 28,000 were Bosniaks.[12]

Another research was conducted by the Sarajevo-based Research and Documentation Center (RDC) that was based on creating lists and databases, rather than providing estimates. ICTY's Demographic Unit in the Hague, provide a similar total death toll, but a somewhat different ethnic distribution.[13] As of October 2006 the count of the number of casualties has reached 97,884.[14] Further research is ongoing.

Large discrepancies in all these estimates are generally due to the inconsistent definitions of who can be considered victims of the war. Some research calculated only direct casualties of the military activity while other also calculated indirect casualties, such as those who died from harsh living conditions, hunger, cold, illnesses or other accidents indirectly caused by the war conditions. Original higher numbers were also used as many victims were listed twice or three times both in civilian and military columns as little or no communication and systematic coordination of these lists could take place in wartime conditions. Manipulation with numbers is today most often used by historical revisionist to change the character and the scope of the war in Bosnia and Herzegovina. However, most of above independent studies have not been accredited by either government involved in the conflict and there are no single official results that are acceptable to all sides.
It should not be discounted that there were also significant casualties on the part of International Troops in Bosnia and Herzegovina. Some 320 soldiers of UNPROFOR were killed during this conflict in Bosnia.

No! All of this is nonsense. Only Serbs committed crimes (100% of them according to the Bosnian Council for Truth). Bosnian Muslims are saints and would not even harm a fly.

Ignore that Bosnia is becoming a center for extremist Muslims (like some of the characters on this site) and that it is one the biggest Al Qaeda training grounds in Europe, this is only Serbs pretending to be Bosnian Muslims.

Everything bad that every happened is Bosnia is because of Serbs, else Bosnia would be the greatest country in Europe, with its beautiful pyramids and the tree that has "Allah" spelt on it.

[Centarfor9]

You don't get it do you. 99% in Republika Srpska would vote for independence. The fact is, according to Yugoslav constitution, all three ethnic groups had to agree, and clearly this condition was not met.
no the it was the majority rule by the constitution and it was met


Yes, its a fact because some random NGO said it was. :lol: The same site blames "Milosevic's forces," when the ICJ just acquitted Serbia. That's funny.
the rulling did transfer all the blame on "republika srpska" and their army but they also sentenced serbia for failling to prevent genocide (by their "volunteers" aka Chetniks)

but the fact is that Serbia financed chetniks

the rule is not final since the "classified files" were unclassified and now Bosnia has 10 years to appeal the decision ... be sure that it will be appealed



According to who? Your imaginary numbers and friends. People like you, who try to argue this nonsense with a straight face are only good to laugh at. Clearly politics are not for you, maybe you should concern yourself with simpler things.
yeah everything is imaginary

but same those numbers make every chetnik proud in serbia and rs

[Centarfor9]

No! All of this is nonsense. Only Serbs committed crimes (100% of them according to the Bosnian Council for Truth). Bosnian Muslims are saints and would not even harm a fly.

Ignore that Bosnia is becoming a center for extremist Muslims (like some of the characters on this site) and that it is one the biggest Al Qaeda training grounds in Europe, this is only Serbs pretending to be Bosnian Muslims.
:lol:

Bosnia is the best state in Europe when dealing with terrorist and improving.

Bosnia and USA work together to fight terrorism.


Everything bad that every happened is Bosnia is because of Serbs, else Bosnia would be the greatest country in Europe, with its beautiful pyramids and the tree that has "Allah" spelt on it.
Serbs are the ones who wanted Greater Serbia now it seems that will never be.

Pyramid that is not proven yet...it will take 20 years till it could be proven.

[Mak]

Like I said, politics aren't for you. Stick with your jobs in the Dollar Store.

[Bosnian Unit]

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/f/f1/Serbia_future2.PNG/400px-Serbia_future2.PNG

Are you happy now.........or you want Srbija do Tokija ?

[Centarfor9]

Like I said, politics aren't for you.
true i leave that to Hare and Zeljko

Stick with your jobs in the Dollar Store.
close 99 cent store :D

[Centarfor9]

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/f/f1/Serbia_future2.PNG/400px-Serbia_future2.PNG

Are you happy now.........or you want Srbija do Tokija ?
i thought even Greece is included in those "plans"

[poutismalakas]

:lol:

Bosnia is the best state in Europe when dealing with terrorist and improving.

Bosnia and USA work together to fight terrorism.
I heard that Arab muslim extermist were given Bosnian citzenship in 90s even given Bosnian women as wives

The Bosniaks received support from radical Islamic groups, [5][6] notably Mujahedin fighters from Afghanistan (veteran from the Soviet war in Afghanistan) and other Islamic countries. Their strength is estimated at between 500 and 1000 fighters. [7] Some reports claim the number could have been as high as 4000. [1]

Al-Qaeda was apparently also present in Bosnia during the war, supporting the Bosniaks. [8]

During and after the war, Bosnia granted citizenship to at least 700 foreigners (mostly Muslims) who fought in the war, of which 367 were revoked in 2007 as illegal. These included citizens from: Algeria, Egypt, Russia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia and Turkey. [9]

[Mak]

http://images.wikia.com/uncyclopedia/images/thumb/f/f1/Serbia_future2.PNG/400px-Serbia_future2.PNG

Are you happy now.........or you want Srbija do Tokija ?

Well, its you Muslims who want to rule the Serbs in Bosnia. You're entitled to your land but you can't blame us Serbs for not not wanting to be ruled by a Muslim-jihadist like Izetbegovic, who wanted a pure Muslim Bosnia (his own words from the book he wrote).

What I wonder though is, if you wanted a country of 3 different people, why did you want to split Yugoslavia?

[poutismalakas]

i thought even Greece is included in those "plans"
Well according to that map Makadonia was taken!

[Centarfor9]

I heard that Arab muslim extermist were given Bosnian citzenship in 90s even given Bosnian women as wives

The Bosniaks received support from radical Islamic groups, [5][6] notably Mujahedin fighters from Afghanistan (veteran from the Soviet war in Afghanistan) and other Islamic countries. Their strength is estimated at between 500 and 1000 fighters. [7] Some reports claim the number could have been as high as 4000. [1]

Al-Qaeda was apparently also present in Bosnia during the war, supporting the Bosniaks. [8]

During and after the war, Bosnia granted citizenship to at least 700 foreigners (mostly Muslims) who fought in the war, of which 367 were revoked in 2007 as illegal. These included citizens from: Algeria, Egypt, Russia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia and Turkey. [9]
they are all revoked now

just last week the remaining 370 or so were revoked

[Centarfor9]

Well, its you Muslims who want to rule the Serbs in Bosnia. You're entitled to your land but you can't blame us Serbs for not not wanting to be ruled by a Muslim-jihadist like Izetbegovic, who wanted a pure Muslim Bosnia (his own words from the book he wrote).
not true

Serbs even supported him instead of Fikret Abdic

Bosnia got their independance by voting witch all countries accept Bosnia as a soverign nation...like it or not


What I wonder though is, if you wanted a country of 3 different people, why did you want to split Yugoslavia?
because chetniks came in power and wanted a Greater Serbia

all countries not just bosnia were against that...now we have Kosova Republik that is last to get their freedom

[Centarfor9]

Well according to that map Makadonia was taken!
not surprised chetniks hate Macedonia just as much as they hate croats, bosnians, slovenians and albanians

[Bosnian Unit]

Well, its you Muslims who want to rule the Serbs in Bosnia. You're entitled to your land but you can't blame us Serbs for not not wanting to be ruled by a Muslim-jihadist like Izetbegovic, who wanted a pure Muslim Bosnia (his own words from the book he wrote).

What I wonder though is, if you wanted a country of 3 different people, why did you want to split Yugoslavia?

Izetbegovic never said that.......i read a book.He was awarded in East and West many times, unlike your leaders who where all WAR CRIMINALS !

We split up becouse we didnt want to be ruled by dominant Serbs.....Croats and Slovenians allready left, what would 2 million of us do in country with 8+ million Serbs ?

[poutismalakas]

they are all revoked now

just last week the remaining 370 or so were revoked
It said at least!

[Centarfor9]

It said at least!
all of them that got the citizenships then are all gone

if not they will be

Bosnia works hard against terrorism because "people" want to put blame on Bosnia that it is a terrorist country but that will never happen

we are one of the best states in europe against terrorism but we do need to improve


the new law that will create one police under bosnian command will help with that

[Mak]

Izetbegovic never said that.......i read a book.He was awarded in East and West many times, unlike your leaders who where all WAR CRIMINALS !

Well then I'm sure you'll recognize this quote from his "Islamic Declaration"

There can be no peace or coexistence between the "Islamic faith" and non- Islamic societies and political institutions. ... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf.

:rolleyes: Clearly a man Serbs would like to be led by.

We split up becouse we didnt want to be ruled by dominant Serbs.....Croats and Slovenians allready left, what would 2 million of us do in country with 8+ million Serbs ?[/B][/I]

Well then you should have no problem understanding why Serbs don't want to be ruled by you.

[Centarfor9]

Well then I'm sure you'll recognize this quote from his "Islamic Declaration"

There can be no peace or coexistence between the "Islamic faith" and non- Islamic societies and political institutions. ... Islam clearly excludes the right and possibility of activity of any strange ideology on its own turf.
you don't even understand the quote...it seems...it says nothing about bosnia being a muslim state

those are chetnik "accusations"...same thing as the "terrorist" thing...just to get a political support of the USA

and he didn't say what you earlier said ;)


:rolleyes: Clearly a man Serbs would like to be led by.
if you remember Milosevic, Biljana Plavsic and Radovan Karadzic all supported him to be the president of Bosnia

he was even given to rule yugoslavia if he was to stay president

(watch death of yugoslavia documentary)

[Mak]

you don't even understand the quote...it seems...it says nothing about bosnia being a muslim state

those are chetnik "accusations"...same thing as the "terrorist" thing...just to get a political support of the USA

and he didn't say what you earlier said ;)

What is there not to understand? I quoted exactly what he said. It's pretty self-explanatory unless you have the literacy of a 10 year old.

As for Milosevic, Karadzic supporting him :rofl: :faint:

It's been fun arguing with you, but you're completely over your head here. Good luck at the 99 cent store.

[Centarfor9]

What is there not to understand? I quoted exactly what he said. It's pretty self-explanatory unless you have the literacy of a 10 year old.
what that quote says is different what you are saying that quote is saying


As for Milosevic, Karadzic supporting him :rofl: :faint:
yes they did because they though he would keep Bosnia in the Serb dominated Yugoslavia

you probably are young lad and don't remember all this...were you born in 1990 ;)

It's been fun arguing with you, but you're completely over your head here.
maybe

even Vojislav Seselj would say that

VOJISLAV SESELJ PREDAJE ISTORIJU U HAGU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTKzZOgeEpI)

http://img.youtube.com/vi/FTKzZOgeEpI/2.jpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTKzZOgeEpI)
Good luck at the 99 cent store.
yeah the business is good but we are hoping to expand :D

prff...i have most of my money in the stock market/bond market anyway

[Saraj Fanático]

I heard that Arab muslim extermist were given Bosnian citzenship in 90s even given Bosnian women as wives

The Bosniaks received support from radical Islamic groups, [5][6] notably Mujahedin fighters from Afghanistan (veteran from the Soviet war in Afghanistan) and other Islamic countries. Their strength is estimated at between 500 and 1000 fighters. [7] Some reports claim the number could have been as high as 4000. [1]

Bullshit. Don't tell me who came to Bosnia and who didn't when you have no clue but the crap Europe is claiming now. Al Qaeda in Bosnia!!!? :lol: :lol: Oh stop it! :lol: On yeah i forgot, you people see every Mujahideen Fighter as an Al Qaeda fighter...right I almost forgot.

The unit in Bosnia was called 'El Mujahid'. They were trained and straight from the battlefields of Afghanistan. Oh and no, not all Mujahideen who fought in Afghanistan belonged to Al Qaeda. As a matter of fact I really wouldn't care if they even were. They came and helped us first then Europe or the world. Much respect for that.

Al-Qaeda was apparently also present in Bosnia during the war, supporting the Bosniaks. [8]


WE DON'T CARE! AQ was never in BiH and there was no Bin laden running around there. It was only Mujahideen under the orders of commanders such as Abu Hamza. Jihad in Bosnia was created by Muslims from around the world. Al Qaeda was created by the US.

During and after the war, Bosnia granted citizenship to at least 700 foreigners (mostly Muslims) who fought in the war, of which 367 were revoked in 2007 as illegal. These included citizens from: Algeria, Egypt, Russia, Sudan, Syria, Tunisia and Turkey. [9]


Shame our Government did that. I was really shocked that we were listening to such demands.

[Saraj Fanático]

Well, its you Muslims who want to rule the Serbs in Bosnia. You're entitled to your land but you can't blame us Serbs for not not wanting to be ruled by a Muslim-jihadist like Izetbegovic, who wanted a pure Muslim Bosnia (his own words from the book he wrote).

What I wonder though is, if you wanted a country of 3 different people, why did you want to split Yugoslavia?


Hahah! Because Serbs in Bosnia are not in Serbia, thats why they have to listen to us numb nuts! Oh my god you are ignorant as hell. What "Muslim Jihadists"? :lol: Alija never mentioned such a state until the Serbs started all this mess with 'Greater Serbia' in plans.

Hey kid, we already have an nation of 3 different people! :lol: We want to reduce that to 1.... All as Bosnians (no not Bosniaks, but Bosnians, just to clearly since your having a hard time). But as usual some pricks like you come along and still believe in some Imaginary 'Independent Republika 'Smrd'ska' and 'Great Serbia' and you try to separate. You like Serbia? You want to be there? Go jump on over to the border and have fun! Till you do that you will never be in a place called 'Serbia', just an fake state called 'Republika 'Smrd'ska' in a real state called BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA.

[poutismalakas]

Bullshit. Don't tell me who came to Bosnia and who didn't when you have no clue but the crap Europe is claiming now. Al Qaeda in Bosnia!!!? :lol: :lol: Oh stop it! :lol: On yeah i forgot, you people see every Mujahideen Fighter as an Al Qaeda fighter...right I almost forgot.

The unit in Bosnia was called 'El Mujahid'. They were trained and straight from the battlefields of Afghanistan. Oh and no, not all Mujahideen who fought in Afghanistan belonged to Al Qaeda. As a matter of fact I really wouldn't care if they even were. They came and helped us first then Europe or the world. Much respect for that.




WE DON'T CARE! AQ was never in BiH and there was no Bin laden running around there. It was only Mujahideen under the orders of commanders such as Abu Hamza. Jihad in Bosnia was created by Muslims from around the world. Al Qaeda was created by the US.




Shame our Government did that. I was really shocked that we were listening to such demands.

Why are you getting so defensive ALL I said was point out that Both sides aren't so innocent as you claim one side was! ALL SIDES did shit that WAS NOT COOL! Also Al Qaeda was in Bosina BEFORE 9/11 and BEFORE the US gave a damn about Al Qaeda! Remember We did not care about Bin Laden until Keyan bombings and the USS Cole attack!!

1998 was also the year of the first major terrorist attack reliably attributed to al-Qaeda- the U.S. embassy bombings in East Africa, resulting in upward of 300 deaths.

On 12 October 2000, while under the command of Commander Kirk Lippold, the Cole was attacked from a small boat by Al-Qaida suicide bombers, while she was harbored in the Yemeni port of Aden.


The October 1991 secession of Bosnia and Herzegovina from the Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia opened up a new ethno-religious conflict at the heart of Europe.

Bosnia and Herzegovina is ethnically diverse, with the population made up of Bosnian Muslims/Bosniaks (Muslims), Serbs (Orthodox Christians) and Croats (Roman Catholics) distributed across its territory. The territories comprised the central component of former Yugoslavia, whose disintegration saw ethnic Serbs and ethnic Croats within Bosnia, supported by irredentist movements in the adjacent states of Serbia and Croatia, engage in a three-way conflict against the ethnic Muslims core.

Radical Islamic veterans of the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan seized on Bosnia as a new opportunity to defend Islam.[35] Besieged on two fronts and seemingly abandoned by the West, the Bosnian regime was willing to accept any help it could get, military or financial, including that of a number of Islamic organisations, including al-Qaeda.[36]

Several close associates of Osama bin Laden (most notably, Saudi Khalid bin Udah bin Muhammad al-Harbi, alias Abu Sulaiman al-Makki) joined the conflict in Bosnia.[36] While al-Qaeda might initially have seen Bosnia as a possible bridgehead enabling the radicalization of European Muslims for operations against other European nations and the United States, Bosniaks had been secularized for generations, and their interest in fighting was largely limited to securing the survival of their nascent state.

The "Bosnian Mujahideen" (comprising largely Arab veterans of the Afghan war and not necessarily members of al-Qaeda) thus operated as a largely autonomous force within central Bosnia. While their bravery in the fray initially attracted a small number of native Bosnians to join them, their brutality against civilians[37] came to appall many native Bosnians and repel new recruits. At the same time, their vigorous attempts to Islamicize the local population with rules on appropriate dress and behavior were widely resented and thus went unheeded. In his book Al-Qaida’s Jihad in Europe: the Afghan-Bosnian Network, Evan Kohlmann summarizes: "In spite of vigorous efforts to ‘Islamicise’ the nominally Muslim Bosnian populace, the locals could not be convinced to abandon pork, alcohol, or public displays of affection. Bosnian women persistently refused to wear the hijab or follow the other mandates for female behavior prescribed by extreme fundamentalist Islam."[36]

The signing of the Washington Agreement in March 1994 brought to an end to the Bosnian-Croatian conflict. While the "Bosnian Mujahideen" remained to fight on in the war against the Serbs, the Dayton Peace Accord of November 1995 ended the conflict for good, with international aid contingent on the disarming of foreign fighters. With Bosnian government support, NATO forces took effective action to close the bases of these fighters and deport them.

A limited number of former mujahedeen who had either married native Bosnians or who could not find a country to go to were permitted to stay in Bosnia and granted citizenship. However, with the war in Bosnia over, many committed and battle-hardened veterans had already returned to familiar territory.

With the Bosnian effort experiencing only limited success, al-Qaeda turned its resources towards its next phase of global expansion.

[Centarfor9]

With the Bosnian effort experiencing only limited success, al-Qaeda turned its resources towards its next phase of global expansion.
very true

their main goal was not to help bosnia

there wasn't many of them there when compared to the number of volunteers Army of Repuplika Srpska, Jugoslavian Army and Croatian forces had

[Saraj Fanático]

Why are you getting so defensive ALL I said was point out that Both sides aren't so innocent as you claim one side was! ALL SIDES did shit that WAS NOT COOL! Also Al Qaeda was in Bosina BEFORE 9/11 and BEFORE the US gave a damn about Al Qaeda! Remember We did not care about Bin Laden until Keyan bombings and the USS Cole attack!!

Bin laden = CIA = US Government. This all started in Afghanistan, not after the attacks in Kenya or the USS Cole Assault.




Radical Islamic veterans of the war against the Soviets in Afghanistan seized on Bosnia as a new opportunity to defend Islam.[35] Besieged on two fronts and seemingly abandoned by the West, the Bosnian regime was willing to accept any help it could get, military or financial, including that of a number of Islamic organisations, including al-Qaeda.[36]

Several close associates of Osama bin Laden (most notably, Saudi Khalid bin Udah bin Muhammad al-Harbi, alias Abu Sulaiman al-Makki) joined the conflict in Bosnia.[36] While al-Qaeda might initially have seen Bosnia as a possible bridgehead enabling the radicalization of European Muslims for operations against other European nations and the United States, Bosniaks had been secularized for generations, and their interest in fighting was largely limited to securing the survival of their nascent state.

Yes associative's of Bin Laden were joined in Jihad....but so where over 6,000 other men and dozens of Commanders who weren't. There was no Al Qaeda link in Bosnia. There was Mujahideen. Former AQ fighters or not, they weren't within the organization during the war. maybe Khalid was but there was no official Al Qaeda organization in Bosnia. There were former Al Qaeda fighters (very small number) but the unit of the Mujahideen was a whole different organization.


The "Bosnian Mujahideen" (comprising largely Arab veterans of the Afghan war and not necessarily members of al-Qaeda) thus operated as a largely autonomous force within central Bosnia. While their bravery in the fray initially attracted a small number of native Bosnians to join them, their brutality against civilians[37] came to appall many native Bosnians and repel new recruits. At the same time, their vigorous attempts to Islamicize the local population with rules on appropriate dress and behavior were widely resented and thus went unheeded. In his book Al-Qaida’s Jihad in Europe: the Afghan-Bosnian Network, Evan Kohlmann summarizes: "In spite of vigorous efforts to ‘Islamicise’ the nominally Muslim Bosnian populace, the locals could not be convinced to abandon pork, alcohol, or public displays of affection. Bosnian women persistently refused to wear the hijab or follow the other mandates for female behavior prescribed by extreme fundamentalist Islam."[36]

The signing of the Washington Agreement in March 1994 brought to an end to the Bosnian-Croatian conflict. While the "Bosnian Mujahideen" remained to fight on in the war against the Serbs, the Dayton Peace Accord of November 1995 ended the conflict for good, with international aid contingent on the disarming of foreign fighters. With Bosnian government support, NATO forces took effective action to close the bases of these fighters and deport them.

A limited number of former mujahedeen who had either married native Bosnians or who could not find a country to go to were permitted to stay in Bosnia and granted citizenship. However, with the war in Bosnia over, many committed and battle-hardened veterans had already returned to familiar territory.

With the Bosnian effort experiencing only limited success, al-Qaeda turned its resources towards its next phase of global expansion.

None of that associated with what we are discussing. I am not sure what the Mujahideen were doing to the populations they controlled but one thing is for sure that their only interest was to eliminate the enemy and die in gods way. There was never really a big talk of a Fundamentalist state as that article claims. They wanted to help and they did. Now Europe and the US start shooting these stories.

Al Qaeda didn't exist in Bosnia. Period. There was no organized movement and most of the fighters in Bosnia weren't ever involved with Bin laden or AQ. The unit was El Mujahid and a couple of other organizations. There was no Official 'Al Qaeda in Bosnia'.

[Saraj Fanático]

very true

their main goal was not to help bosnia

there wasn't many of them there when compared to the number of volunteers Army of Repuplika Srpska, Jugoslavian Army and Croatian forces had


??? They traveled across the world to help us when none did. Where did Bosnia get its plans of Weaponry making and equipment from to defend itself? The same nations those men came from (Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc) . Their main goal was to defend the faith in Europe. And thats what they exactly did. I see them all as Heros.

Bosnia shouldn't even join the US in its 'War on Terror' bs. It causes things such as the betrayal of the first foreign defenders of BiH.

[poutismalakas]

??? They traveled across the world to help us when none did. Where did Bosnia get its plans of Weaponry making and equipment from to defend itself? The same nations those men came from (Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc) . Their main goal was to defend the faith in Europe. And thats what they exactly did. I see them all as Heros.

Bosnia shouldn't even join the US in its 'War on Terror' bs. It causes things such as the betrayal of the first foreign defenders of BiH.Wasn't that BinLaden aim as well?

[Centarfor9]

??? They traveled across the world to help us when none did. Where did Bosnia get its plans of Weaponry making and equipment from to defend itself? The same nations those men came from (Pakistan, Iran, Saudi Arabia etc) . Their main goal was to defend the faith in Europe. And thats what they exactly did. I see them all as Heros.

Bosnia shouldn't even join the US in its 'War on Terror' bs. It causes things such as the betrayal of the first foreign defenders of BiH.
yes most of them were there to defend but some of them were not

they were more a moral support

IRAN and Pakistan as nations are different story

[Saraj Fanático]

They came, and pushed the enemy back in many parts of the country. They gave many of their life's for the war. And we as Bosniaks shouldn't ever forget that. I have seen video's of them fighting as if it were for their own nation and people. And that shouldn't be forgotten. They came first then Europe and the US ever did. Now the US is turning our trash Government against them with this 'War on terror' trap.

[Centarfor9]

They came, and pushed the enemy back in many parts of the country. They gave many of their life's for the war. And we as Bosniaks shouldn't ever forget that. I have seen video's of them fighting as if it were for their own nation and people. And that shouldn't be forgotten. They came first then Europe and the US ever did. Now the US is turning our trash Government against them with this 'War on terror' trap.
well even if that's true

the war is over and BiH government is at doing a right thing by kicking them out

you don't see Swedes, Germans, Greeks, Russians, Italians, etc still in the country

[Saraj Fanático]

^ No but I do see loads of Chinese people on my way to work!


I say that our Government should have never done what it did. And most people here where I live and talk to agree with me. They were still a part of the resistance, BiH Army or Mujahideen Units.

[Centarfor9]

^ No but I do see loads of Chinese people on my way to work!
and africans

btw last year BiH gov't kicked out 24,000 of them



I say that our Government should have never done what it did. And most people here agree with me. They were still a part of the resistance, BiH Army or Mujahideen Units.
yeah but 10 or more ruined everything for all of them so they had to be kicked out

[Pape]

lmao i say croatia bosnia and serbia combine again and form the kingdom of yugoslavia ruled by the one and only bosnian serb croat king Pape the Great

[Centarfor9]

^ you or this guy? :)

http://www.leksikon-yu-mitologije.net/files/pape.jpg

[poutismalakas]

and africans

btw last year BiH gov't kicked out 24,000 of them



yeah but 10 or more ruined everything for all of them so they had to be kicked out
HOw come Bosnia can do that and no one bitches BUT IF Greece does it we are racist?

[poutismalakas]

lmao i say croatia bosnia and serbia combine again and form the kingdom of yugoslavia ruled by the one and only bosnian serb croat king Pape the Great
Are you going to take a Albanian/Montonegrian/Skopjian as Queen to complete your dream?

[Ero]

Croatians better get Herceg Bosna if the serbs get RS thats for sure! But with all of Europe against Croatia and Croatians its unlikely :sad:

[Pape]

Are you going to take a Albanian/Montonegrian/Skopjian as Queen to complete your dream?

add montenegro to that list I have roots there too :lol: and i might go south and invade that beautiful greece peninsula and than take over turkey from there :lol:

and huso here is a better pic of my pape in my colorful yugoslavian jersey :lol:
http://www.hordezla-stuttgart.com/images/142137_400X600.jpg

JUGOSLAVIJOOOOO JUGOSLAVIJOOOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3gYhTYaMHA

[poutismalakas]

add montenegro to that list I have roots there too :lol: and i might go south and invade that beautiful greece peninsula and than take over turkey from there :lol:

and huso here is a better pic of my pape in my colorful yugoslavian jersey :lol:
http://www.hordezla-stuttgart.com/images/142137_400X600.jpg

JUGOSLAVIJOOOOO JUGOSLAVIJOOOO!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3gYhTYaMHA
So if you do that are you going to crown yourself Byzantine Emperor and your Capital Byzantuim?

[Pape]

Good IDEA! get that back from Turkey and live as a king

[poutismalakas]

^ NOT like a King but LIKE A EMPEROR! ;)

[ARBANITAI]

^^............^^

[Bosnian Unit]

http://www.iaed.org/images/mongolia2.jpg

So what happend with Mongolia, once a great superpower......lately i dont hear anything about them in the news !





:lol:

[Centarfor9]

http://www.iaed.org/images/mongolia2.jpg

So what happend with Mongolia, once a great superpower......lately i dont hear anything about them in the news !





:lol:

Now it's Kingdom of Milorad Dodik :D (aka Bosnia and Herzegovina)

[Centarfor9]

Ухапшен Илија Јуришић, осумњичен за злочин у "Тузланској колони"

БЕОГРАД, 11. МАЈА (СРНА) - Портпарол Тужилаштва за ратне злочине Србије Бруно Векарић потврдио је данас Срни да је по међународној потјерници ухапшен Илија Јуришић, осумњичен да је учествовао у злочину у Тузли 1992. године.

"Према нашим сазнањима, ухапшен је овде кад је покушао да преко Србије отпутује за Келн. Овде је био у транзиту, а ухапшен је за ратни злочин за случај познат као `Тузланска колона`" - рекао је Векарић.
Случај "Тузланска колона" обједињује два догађаја, напад из засједе на војнике бивше ЈНА који су се разоружани повлачили из тузланске касарне и напад на оближње мјесто Бановићи и заробљавање и злостављање више од 800 српских цивила, који су се одиграли готово истовремено.

Овај случај још је у фази истраге, а против тадашњих градских функционера, међу којима је и Јуришић, још 1995. године поднесене су кривичне пријаве.

http://www.rtrs.tv/vijesti/vijest.php?id=36668

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Ilija Jurišić was arrested by Serbian authorities for incident when Yugoslavian National Army surrendered but latter was ambushed when they were leaving Tuzla. Since he was the president of Tuzla County (at the time) and one of the leaders of Tuzla defense he was charged with crime by authorities form Belgrade. However the arrest is illegal and accusations are blatant political act. Bosnian authorities have talked some sense into “authorities” from Belgrade and Illija’s release is expected tomorrow (Monday).

[boris4c]

Broj zaposlenih u RS raste, a u FBiH opada
Petak, 8. jun 2007. 11:06

Republika Srpska (RS) beleži povećanje zaposlenosti, dok su u Federaciji BiH (FBiH) sasvim suprotna kretanja, pokazuju podaci entitetskih statističkih zavoda, prenose "Nezavisne novine".

Usled tih kretanja u FBiH je skoro izjednačen broj zaposlenih i nezaposlenih, dok se u RS približava odnosu dva naprema jedan u korist osoba sa radnom knjižicom.

Privrednici i sindikalci smatraju da su pokazatelji u RS odraz striktnijeg sprovodjenja ekonomske politike u tom entitetu, odnosno uspešnijeg procesa privatizacije, blažeg poreskog opterećanja privrede i strože kontrole rada na crno u odnosu na FBiH.

U RS se u zadnjih šest godina broj zaposlenih povećao za 32.000, odnosno 14,5 odsto. Na kraju prošle godine u RS je registrovano ukupno 252.227 zaposlenih, što je u odnosu na prethodnu godinu napredak od četiri odsto.

FBiH, pak, od 2001. godine kada je bilo 407.199 osoba sa radnim knjižicama beleži značajan pad do 2003. godine. Od tada se situacija blago popravlja, pa je prošle godine zaposleno 1.200 novih radnika (ukupno 389.601), što je povećanje od 0,3 odsto.

Što se tiče broja nezaposlenih, on je u RS od 2001. godine konsantno varirao, da bi prošle godine bilo evidentirano značajno smanjenje broja osoba bez posla, odnosno 8.380 manje u poredjenju sa 2005. godinom ili oko šest odsto. U odnosu na 2001. godinu broj nezaposlenih smanjen je za 9.800.

Na području FBiH je, medjutim, prisutan konstantan rast broja novih prijava na biroe za zapošljavanje, koji se godišnje uvećavaju izmedju 15.000 i 23.000. Kraj prošle godine u tom entitetu je okončan sa evidentiranih 355.102 nezaposlenih, što je u odnosu na prethodnu godinu povećanje za pet odsto, a čak 33 odsto u poredjenju sa 2001. godinom.

(MONDO)

[Centarfor9]

Dodik kicked him out for this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nj4s6MYjWtg

[Cihangir]

Genocide?

[Bosnian Unit]

Broj zaposlenih u RS raste, a u FBiH opada
Petak, 8. jun 2007. 11:06

Republika Srpska (RS) beleži povećanje zaposlenosti, dok su u Federaciji BiH (FBiH) sasvim suprotna kretanja, pokazuju podaci entitetskih statističkih zavoda, prenose "Nezavisne novine".

Usled tih kretanja u FBiH je skoro izjednačen broj zaposlenih i nezaposlenih, dok se u RS približava odnosu dva naprema jedan u korist osoba sa radnom knjižicom.

Privrednici i sindikalci smatraju da su pokazatelji u RS odraz striktnijeg sprovodjenja ekonomske politike u tom entitetu, odnosno uspešnijeg procesa privatizacije, blažeg poreskog opterećanja privrede i strože kontrole rada na crno u odnosu na FBiH.

U RS se u zadnjih šest godina broj zaposlenih povećao za 32.000, odnosno 14,5 odsto. Na kraju prošle godine u RS je registrovano ukupno 252.227 zaposlenih, što je u odnosu na prethodnu godinu napredak od četiri odsto.

FBiH, pak, od 2001. godine kada je bilo 407.199 osoba sa radnim knjižicama beleži značajan pad do 2003. godine. Od tada se situacija blago popravlja, pa je prošle godine zaposleno 1.200 novih radnika (ukupno 389.601), što je povećanje od 0,3 odsto.

Što se tiče broja nezaposlenih, on je u RS od 2001. godine konsantno varirao, da bi prošle godine bilo evidentirano značajno smanjenje broja osoba bez posla, odnosno 8.380 manje u poredjenju sa 2005. godinom ili oko šest odsto. U odnosu na 2001. godinu broj nezaposlenih smanjen je za 9.800.

Na području FBiH je, medjutim, prisutan konstantan rast broja novih prijava na biroe za zapošljavanje, koji se godišnje uvećavaju izmedju 15.000 i 23.000. Kraj prošle godine u tom entitetu je okončan sa evidentiranih 355.102 nezaposlenih, što je u odnosu na prethodnu godinu povećanje za pet odsto, a čak 33 odsto u poredjenju sa 2001. godinom.

(MONDO)


To je teze sranje.

Kao sto vise vrijeme odmice sveje losije :lol: .

To je ne moguce, to Nezavisne vuku na Srpsku stranu dok Avaz na Bosnjacku.

Prvi ocrnjuju FBIH, drugi RS i tako u nedogled.

Oslobodjenje su jedne od najrealnijih novina ali posto su u BIH vecina nacionalisti Bosnjacima je glavni Avaz a Srbima Nezavisne, tako da znas koliko je sati.


Sve u svemu, prosao sam kroz mnogo gradova u BIH poslije rata ukljucujuci i mnoge u RS..........situacija je vise nego dobra svugdje. Ljudi koji i ne rade, zive normalno bez stresa kao mnogi po Zapadnim zemljama.....pravi rahatluk sto se kaze :D .

Jebo te svako pusi cigare, ima mobilni ili kako neki kazu cel fone......saobracaj gusci no ikad, pa ako se tako nema kako ONDA IZGLEDA DA SE IMA......Svaka druga kuca ima kompijuter u mom komsiluku, a prije rata ga niko nije imao.......mislim sta vise da kazem ?

Samo sto se kod nas naucilo na ono nema se, treba ici u Njemacku pa se vratit s Mercedesom :lol: .



Ne kazem da neki i nemaju, ali nije toliko crno.....u glavnom koji nemaju su oni zakorjeli komunisti koji bi kao i za vrijeme socijalizma:

AJDE JORGANU DIGNI SE DA LEGNEM

ILI AJDE HLJEBE IZREZI SE DA TE JEDEM

Znaci toliko su lijeni :boo: , a svako moze da ima na neki nacin ako hoce i zagrne rukave.

Imam tetka na primjer koji je bio vozac autobusa u AM, covijek nije mogao da ne pije, a gdje ces to kad vozis 20-30 ljudi dnevno Bog te ? Opominjan par puta i vidjeli da se covijek ne mijenja i dali mu otkaz......sada zove rodbinu po dijaspori da mu salju love.........a oni budale to i urade, a boli njega kurac sto Madjarska nema more, niki kurac ne radi a ima za svoje potrebe....

I on se ubraja u te nezaposlene, a ovamo kad takve pogledas svako ima kakav takav auto i mobitel, i po cijeli dan se zivkaju gdje ce na kahvu:boo: .

[Cevap]

you have tons of cool flags from which you can choose from.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp_EYczdBR0&mode=related&search=

[boris4c]

Both RS and Federacija new flags will have nothing to do with symbols, as the guy who made the video suggests. It's not going to be a flag which compromises 3 different symbols, it's going to be something that is neutral just like the BiH flag.

Btw Republika Srpska won a silver medal today at the Karate World Cup in Italy.

[Sarajbahçe]

Bosnia = dominated by muslims
Republika Smrd'ska = earned by killings = will never split from Bosnia
Hercegovna = same thing, will never split
Greater Bosnia :lol:
you can either :

A: live with it that you are living in a muslim dominated country

OR

B: leave Bosnia and go back to serbia or croatia, because they will never split from bosnia, its bosnian land

so you can talk and argue all you want with your imaginary "chetnik" , "ustase" point of views of greater croatia and greater serbia and mala bosna
but that will never happen because we all know its bosnian land

so cry me a river...

[boris4c]

We are not here to make predictions but to discuss about the situation in Republika Srpska.

Religions:
Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14%

Already here I see more Christians. The other 14% is probably 90% Christian as well.

Once again I would like to congratulate RS for their silver medal at the World Cup. (and also Serbia for their silver medal the the UEFA u21 Championship)

[Sarajbahçe]

yes i know
but the background of bosnia is muslim
turks back in the day colonized us
but 40% is still bosnian dominated
i dont mind if other religions stay in our country
but burning bosnian flags in my home city in brcko and many other places in republika srpska
well wtf, if you dont like bosnia then just leave and go back to serbia
because i will tell you again, no matter how much you cry about republika srpska it will never split from bosnia
so you can live with muslims or you can just cross the border
your choice

[boris4c]

Maybe we will just live in RS (dramatically Serb dominated). Maybe we will just do that and live with other Serbs in RS, go to our schools, have our institutions and our government. Go out in the Serb-inhabited cities in RS at night, have parties, meet other Serbs that live in RS (at the parties). Drink some beer imported from Serbia for example. Go to an orthodox church. Have children and send them to a Serbian school, to a Serbian church. Maybe we will just do that and live under our new beloved flag. We will have future football, basketball, handball (etc.) players and send them to Serbia to play for their country and at the same time the whole of RS will cheer for Serbia (wether it was today's u21 European final or any other sporting event, or anything really). Then we can maybe cross the border into Serbia (from time to time) and meet people that are strangely extremely similar to ourselves. Yes I think that's what were going to do.

[Sarajbahçe]

^you didnt have to give me your life story on republika srpska
i believe republika srpska will be over with
one day or another it will be just on bosnia
no republika srpska bs
i cant wait for that day
i dont mind serbs living there as i know even before war some lived in bosnia as muslims lived in serbia
however, i totally disagree with your insane views of independance
it will never happen
you cant come into a country kill people and expect it to be your land
what if for example we did that to you guys, how would you guys feel
same thing... so dont give me that bs velika srpska
we want kosovo, republika srpska...
because it just wont happen
yugoslavia is over we will never be a part with you again

[Cihangir]

yes i know
but the background of bosnia is muslim
turks back in the day colonized us
but 40% is still bosnian dominated
i dont mind if other religions stay in our country
but burning bosnian flags in my home city in brcko and many other places in republika srpska
well wtf, if you dont like bosnia then just leave and go back to serbia
because i will tell you again, no matter how much you cry about republika srpska it will never split from bosnia
so you can live with muslims or you can just cross the border
your choice

What is Bosnia today?

[Centarfor9]

We are not here to make predictions but to discuss about the situation in Republika Srpska.

Religions:
Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14%

Already here I see more Christians. The other 14% is probably 90% Christian as well.

Once again I would like to congratulate RS for their silver medal at the World Cup. (and also Serbia for their silver medal the the UEFA u21 Championship)
:faint2: :lol:

you know that half of milion bosniaks lived at the land that is now entity called republika srpska

also 50% of the nation is bosniaks (not including the 25% of the country population that is living outside of BiH)

other 14% cannot be 90% christian (do the math :) )

[Bosnian Unit]

We are not here to make predictions but to discuss about the situation in Republika Srpska.

Religions:
Muslim 40%, Orthodox 31%, Roman Catholic 15%, other 14%

Already here I see more Christians. The other 14% is probably 90% Christian as well.

Once again I would like to congratulate RS for their silver medal at the World Cup. (and also Serbia for their silver medal the the UEFA u21 Championship)



According to the 1991 census, Bosnia and Herzegovina had a population of 4,377,053. Ethnically, 41.47% were Muslims by nationality, 33.21% Serbs, and 17.38% Croats, with 5.54% declaring themselves Yugoslavs.

According to 2000 data from the CIA World Factbook, Bosnia and Herzegovina is ethnically 46% Bosniak, 38.1% Serb, 15.3% Croat, 0.6% Other.

There is a strong correlation between ethnic identity and religion in Bosnia and Herzegovina. as is shown by the fact that 99% of Bosniaks are Muslims, 98% of Croats are Catholics whilst 99% of Serbs are Orthodox Christians. Tensions between the three constitutional peoples remain high in BiH and often provoke political disagreements.


BTW RS doesnt have a team in any sport, and even if they do they CANT compete on INTERNATIONAL LEVEL. What are you talking about ?

Slavija wich played in Intertoto Cup today would never had a chance to do that if they didnt join PREMIER LEAGUE OF BIH.Just like any other club.

Whoever won that silver medal he/she COMPETED UNDER THE FLAG OF BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA :Party: !

And 99.9 % people from all over the world will think he/she is Bosnian, nobady knows about RS.

RS in the future will probably not exist......it will end up just like EX-HBeven if is still there it will be like Catalonia,Basque,Qubec and will never have NT, or that somebody can compete in THEIR NAME OR INTERNATIONAL LEVEL.

OK YOU GOT THAT, GOOD :smoking: !

[Sarajbahçe]

What is Bosnia today?
what do you mean what is bosnia today???
it is a muslim dominated country with orthodox people living in the north and croats in the south
kinda like canada but muslims are the dominant ones

[Centarfor9]

what do you mean what is bosnia today???
it is a muslim dominated country with orthodox people living in the north and croats in the south
kinda like canada but muslims are the dominant ones
You sure of that? :lol:

[Sarajbahçe]

i seriously dont know why these people always argue about republika srpska
everyone knows bosnia as bosnia herzegovina not bosnia-herzegovina-republika srpska
seriously.. either leave or keep fighting for independance but its worthless because we wont let you win.. cant become independant
just like bosnian unit said
the only reason why those soccer teams play in intertoto cup is because they joined BOSNIAN PREMIER LEAGUE they didnt go because they played in the REPUBLIKA SRPSKA LEAGUE
and so what your saying boris is
what about those muslims in sandzak.. they party muslim tradition, they go to muslim mosque's, they find bosniak girls, they meet people of bosniak decent, they drink with muslims... :lol: cut the crap
we can say the same thing also that sandzak needs to join us

[Centarfor9]

i seriously dont know why these people always argue about republika srpska
everyone knows bosnia as bosnia herzegovina not bosnia-herzegovina-republika srpska
seriously.. either leave or keep fighting for independance but its worthless because we wont let you win.. cant become independant
just like bosnian unit said
the only reason why those soccer teams play in intertoto cup is because they joined BOSNIAN PREMIER LEAGUE they didnt go because they played in the REPUBLIKA SRPSKA LEAGUE
and so what your saying boris is
what about those muslims in sandzak.. they party muslim tradition, they go to muslim mosque's, they find bosniak girls, they meet people of bosniak decent, they drink with muslims... :lol: cut the crap
we can say the same thing also that sandzak needs to join us
it seems you have lot of things on your head :lol:

[Sarajbahçe]

^ i didnt mean it like that dominating serbs or croats
i mean we are the highest % in bosnia for population like muslims

[Centarfor9]

^ i didnt mean it like that dominating serbs or croats
i mean we are the highest % in bosnia for population like muslims
it seems you are into statistics

[Sarajbahçe]

well yeah, when this guy is giving me his crazy views of independance and seperation to greater serbia
what else am i supposed to think?

[Sarajbahçe]

^why are you attacking me :lol:

[Centarfor9]

^why are you attacking me :lol:
you are paranoid :lol:

[Sarajbahçe]

^not really
im just saying how it is
fine serbs control bosnia.. republika srpska will split off from bosnia and herzegovina will too
happy?

[Centarfor9]

^not really
im just saying how it is
fine serbs control bosnia.. republika srpska will split off from bosnia and herzegovina will too
happy?
what are you talking about :lol:

[Cihangir]

what do you mean what is bosnia today???
it is a muslim dominated country with orthodox people living in the north and croats in the south
kinda like canada but muslims are the dominant ones

Lol I know Bosna, what I meant is that Bosnia is currently a colony.
Look into Ottoman Bosnia and see the difference. You can't just simply call Ottomans colonized us. That's the European idea. Which always somehow tends to be anti-Turkish.

[Centarfor9]

Lol I know Bosna, what I meant is that Bosnia is currently a colony.
:lol:

these guys know so much about Bosnia :lol:

i'm learning so much :lol:

[boris4c]

KARATE: Srbiji zlato i bronza, Srpskoj srebro
Subota, 23. jun 2007. 22:21

Ženska karate reprezentacija Srbije prvog dana 6. Svetskog prvenstva, koje se do 24. juna održava u Italiji, osvojila je dve medalje, i to najsjajniju - zlatnu u katama i bronzanu u direktnim borbama, dok je selekciji Republike Srpske u istoj kategoriji pripala srebrna medalja.

Srpske devojke u sastavu Jelena Pejović, Tamara Batinić i Mirjana Mihajlović bile su neprikosnovene na šampionatu i zasluženo izborile najsjajnije odličje.

Srbija se prvog dana šampionata planete u Bergamu okitila i bronzom i to u konkurenciji direktnih borbi (šobu ipon), a malo je nedostajalo da se u finalu bore protiv ekipe Republike Srpske, koja je osvojila drugo mesto i srebrnu medalju.

Fatalne za Srpkinje sa obe strane Drine, bile su domaće takmičarke, koje su Srbiju u polufinalu pobedile sa 2:1, dok su u finalu bile bolje od RS rezultatom 2:0.

Srbiju su u borbama predstavljale Iva Vinković, Dragana Ršumović, Emilija Vasiljević i Zvezdana Peković, dok su boje RS branile karatistkinje Snežana Lakić, Maja Milinović i Jelena Cvijetić.

Na karate šampionatu u Italiji učestvuje 25 država sa ukupno 363 takmičara.

[boris4c]

Sinter when I said of those 14% probably 90% is Christian, that means that 90% OF THE 14% are Christian = 12,6% total. What else could they be anyway, Jews and nothing else.

PS: RS is competing in international karate competitions

[Centarfor9]

KARATE: Srbiji zlato i bronza, Srpskoj srebro
Subota, 23. jun 2007. 22:21

Ženska karate reprezentacija Srbije prvog dana 6. Svetskog prvenstva, koje se do 24. juna održava u Italiji, osvojila je dve medalje, i to najsjajniju - zlatnu u katama i bronzanu u direktnim borbama, dok je selekciji Republike Srpske u istoj kategoriji pripala srebrna medalja.

Srpske devojke u sastavu Jelena Pejović, Tamara Batinić i Mirjana Mihajlović bile su neprikosnovene na šampionatu i zasluženo izborile najsjajnije odličje.

Srbija se prvog dana šampionata planete u Bergamu okitila i bronzom i to u konkurenciji direktnih borbi (šobu ipon), a malo je nedostajalo da se u finalu bore protiv ekipe Republike Srpske, koja je osvojila drugo mesto i srebrnu medalju.

Fatalne za Srpkinje sa obe strane Drine, bile su domaće takmičarke, koje su Srbiju u polufinalu pobedile sa 2:1, dok su u finalu bile bolje od RS rezultatom 2:0.

Srbiju su u borbama predstavljale Iva Vinković, Dragana Ršumović, Emilija Vasiljević i Zvezdana Peković, dok su boje RS branile karatistkinje Snežana Lakić, Maja Milinović i Jelena Cvijetić.

Na karate šampionatu u Italiji učestvuje 25 država sa ukupno 363 takmičara.

^ jel to zvanicno prvenstvo?

[Centarfor9]

Sinter when I said of those 14% probably 90% is Christian, that means that 90% OF THE 14% are Christian = 12,6% total. What else could they be anyway, Jews and nothing else.

PS: RS is competing in international karate competitions
well think about it

50% of the country are bosniaks

if 40% are muslims and knowing the fact that 98% of serbs say they are orthodox christians and 99% of croats say they are catholics then the 14% cannot be christian

btw there are only around 1,000 jews in bosnia

think about it :)

[Milos_]

what do you mean what is bosnia today???
it is a muslim dominated country with orthodox people living in the north and croats in the south
kinda like canada but muslims are the dominant ones
:faint2: How do muslims dominate in Banja Luka and Mostar?:lol:

Bosnia is a nation of 3 people so get used to it sunshine:).If you want to live in a Muslim dominated country move to Turkey.

[Centarfor9]

:faint2: How do muslims dominate in Banja Luka and Mostar?:lol:

Bosnia is a nation of 3 people so get used to it sunshine:)
??? sunshine

If you want to live in a Muslim dominated country move to Turkey.
or London :)

or Bosnia haha

[boris4c]

Pa eto pise Svetsko prventsvo u Italiji. Probao sam potraziti po netu medjutim nisam nista nasao sto se tice icega oko karate-a. (Ne)popularnost tog sporta. I mene jako cudi da se takmici RS al eto. Isto tako znam da se Kosovo takmici u stonom tenisu (zvanicno). Ja se inace secam da sam i davnih godina citao da je RS ucestovala na evropskim/svetskim prvenstvima u karate-u u svim kategorijama, a da se dobro i snalazila tj. osvajala medalje.

[boris4c]

The country is home to three ethnic "constituent peoples": Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Regardless of ethnicity, a citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina is often identified in English as a Bosnian. In Bosnia however, the distinction between a Bosnian and a Herzegovinian is maintained as a regional, rather than an ethnic distinction. The country is decentralized and comprises two entities, the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska.

[Centarfor9]

Pa eto pise Svetsko prventsvo u Italiji. Probao sam potraziti po netu medjutim nisam nista nasao sto se tice icega oko karate-a. (Ne)popularnost tog sporta. I mene jako cudi da se takmici RS al eto. Isto tako znam da se Kosovo takmici u stonom tenisu (zvanicno). Ja se inace secam da sam i davnih godina citao da je RS ucestovala na evropskim/svetskim prvenstvima u karate-u u svim kategorijama, a da se dobro i snalazila tj. osvajala medalje.
nebi reko da je zvanicno

to je mozda prije RS isla na turnire kad je bila nezvanicna [1992-1996] (ali i to nema smisla)

[Centarfor9]

The country is home to three ethnic "constituent peoples": Bosniaks, Serbs and Croats. Regardless of ethnicity, a citizen of Bosnia and Herzegovina is often identified in English as a Bosnian. In Bosnia however, the distinction between a Bosnian and a Herzegovinian is maintained as a regional, rather than an ethnic distinction. The country is decentralized and comprises two entities, the Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina and Republika Srpska.
well said my bosnian budy :)

[boris4c]

Is this the new emblem of RS? I am satisfied if it is. lol
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/RS_amblem.gif

By the way Sinter, clearly there is no half a million Bosniaks in RS. The population is somewhere around 1,5 million (total) and I would say there is about 10% Bosniaks in there, 15% MAXXX.

[boris4c]

nebi reko da je zvanicno

to je mozda prije RS isla na turnire kad je bila nezvanicna [1992-1996] (ali i to nema smisla)
Nisam ja citao vesti u to vreme jebiga lol

Jebiga kad kazem davnih godina mislim pre 5 godina na primer :D

[Sarajbahçe]

How do muslims dominate in Banja Luka and Mostar?

Bosnia is a nation of 3 people so get used to it sunshine.If you want to live in a Muslim dominated country move to Turkey.

are you mental???
did you read my posts
i didnt say bosnians control everything in bosnia
i said we are higher % of population than orthodox
thats all i said, zip, zero, end of discussion
dont put words in my mouth boy

[Centarfor9]

Is this the new emblem of RS? I am satisfied if it is. lol
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/d/d2/RS_amblem.gif

By the way Sinter, clearly there is no half a million Bosniaks in RS. The population is somewhere around 1,5 million (total) and I would say there is about 10% Bosniaks in there, 15% MAXXX.

that's temporary emblem not approved by all groups

i didn't say that today there is half of million of bosniaks in RS

after the genocide and ethnic cleansing now there is probably 150,000 bosniaks in RS

i was saying that before the ethnic cleansing and genocide there was about 500,000 bosniaks in the area what is now entity of Republika Srpska

[Sarajbahçe]

iunno boys...this thread always leads to arguments
when will they understand rs will never split
whatever, moving on...
have you guys seen the new serbian jerseys???

[Sarajbahçe]

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/l3oSaNaC_Pics/SerbiaJersey.jpg

:lol:

[Centarfor9]

iunno boys...this thread always leads to arguments
when will they understand rs will never split
whatever, moving on...
have you guys seen the new serbian jerseys???
dude

look at the name of the thread

of course the topic will be Republika Srpska :)

[Centarfor9]

http://i146.photobucket.com/albums/r250/l3oSaNaC_Pics/SerbiaJersey.jpg

:lol:
i don't get it

is this supposed to be funny?

[Sarajbahçe]

yes :sad:

[Centarfor9]

yes :sad:
i thought you were trying to pull a fast one

[boris4c]

Well some little kid out there is having fun on Paint making possible new serbian jerseys for EURO2008? :)

Yes there was 500,000 Bosniaks on that territory but after the many displacings and everything it is normal that the ethnic map of Bosnia has changed in a drastic way (not only for the Bosniaks).

Look at this 1991 census map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/BH1991.jpg/614px-BH1991.jpg

Clearly, many Serbs lived in the Federacija and vice-versa but people split up in fear but also in hope that such a thing would never take place again. The line (border) had to be drawn in order to separate different ethnic groups to the maximum.

[Centarfor9]

Well some little kid out there is having fun on Paint making possible new serbian jerseys for EURO2008? :)

Yes there was 500,000 Bosniaks on that territory but after the many displacings and everything it is normal that the ethnic map of Bosnia has changed in a drastic way (not only for the Bosniaks).

Look at this 1991 census map:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/f/f6/BH1991.jpg/614px-BH1991.jpg

Clearly, many Serbs lived in the Federacija and vice-versa but people split up in fear but also in hope that such a thing would never take place again. The line (border) had to be drawn in order to separate different ethnic groups to the maximum.
u sure of that

serbs ethnically cleansed eastern bosnia and the serbs from federation went along with the serb political ambitions at the time to create a greater serbia so they moved into bosniak homes and took over bosniak land in eastern bosnia and elsewhere what now comopses RS entity


this is how it was
http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/6734/ethnicityinbih19911hc9.gif (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/)



http://img59.imageshack.us/img59/4935/etnikastrukturaubih1991tl7.png (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/)



Towns of the municipalities

http://img390.imageshack.us/img390/5638/1991bihtowns1xd2.gif (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/)

[FK SARAJEVO]

why are you guys even disussing all this. this thread is crap. everyone knows with the ruling that said genocide was commited in bosnia, republika srpska is history, its just a matter of time.

[boris4c]

The map I showed you indicates majority only, yours is more precise regarding the minority in each municipality and etc.

I am sad to see Sinter is the only person here who can discuss properly about a certain subject, not like some FC Sarajevo fans invading this thread :(

[Centarfor9]

The map I showed you indicates majority only, yours is more precise regarding the minority in each municipality and etc.

I am sad to see Sinter is the only person here who can discuss properly about a certain subject, not like some FC Sarajevo fans invading this thread :(

i would leave this up to politicians

that is their job

btw i'm Zeljo fan (as you can tell)

Nicija Zemlja :sad:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2213254874087886889&q=No+Man%27s+Land&total=433&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1

[FK SARAJEVO]

I am sad to see Sinter is the only person here who can discuss properly about a certain subject, not like some FC Sarajevo fans invading this thread :([/QUOTE]

buddy, 100000's died for these stinkin politics, this is SOCCER forum, get this garbage outta of here.

[Centarfor9]

buddy, 100000's died for these stinkin politics, this is SOCCER forum, get this garbage outta of here.
it's politics section

if you don't like it go back to your discussion of soccer

oh wait you are (and weren't) not doing that

you are here "keeping it real"

[FK SARAJEVO]

hmm Bosna i Hercegovina na cirilici, that explains alot.

[boris4c]

i would leave this up to politicians

that is their job

btw i'm Zeljo fan (as you can tell)

Nicija Zemlja :sad:
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2213254874087886889&q=No+Man%27s+Land&total=433&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=1
Nicija Zemlja odlican film. Realan film koji je istovremeno uspeo pokazati zaista pravu sliku o ratu. Retki su takvi filmovi al nadje se ponekad. Nije kao "Behind the Enemy Lines", jebiga covek stane na minu 15 puta i nista mu. :)

My favorite team is Slavija. :)

[boris4c]

hmm Bosna i Hercegovina na cirilici, that explains alot.
Koji si ti djavo dosao ovde da se svadjas. Realno diskutujemo o postavljenom topiku, svak ima svoje argumente i misljenje, i to je poenta svega ovoga, a ti ovde zagadjujes (???). Sta ako covek stavi BiH cirilicom. Mozda ti to nisi znao al cirilica je uz latinicu sluzbeni alfabet tvoje drzave. Ja nisam za mrznju, jer ja ne znam da mrzim (a ni Sinter koliko sam ja uspeo videti do sada). Imam mnoge prijatelje Bosnjake i super se slazemo, ja znam ko su stvarno oni, i tako oni znaju ko sam ja. Jebes mi sve ako mi cak idol nije neki Bosnjak. Lepo i mirno diskutujemo o jednom velikom delu BiH politike a ti ovde siris svoje negativne vibracije? Ako nisi zadovoljan, slobodno otidji i ne moras se vracati na diskusije "Politika". (nemoj brate ni citati sta mi pisemo.)

[Centarfor9]

Nicija Zemlja odlican film. Realan film koji je istovremeno uspeo pokazati zaista pravu sliku o ratu. Retki su takvi filmovi al nadje se ponekad. Nije kao "Behind the Enemy Lines", jebiga covek stane na minu 15 puta i nista mu. :)

My favorite team is Slavija. :)
ja ali kazu za navijace slavije (jer oni sami to kazu)

da navijaju za Slaviju samo kad Crvena Zvezda neigra

a vidim da ti navijas na Crvenu Zvezdu ...to je nako isto ko sto neki navijaju za FK Torpedo (tj. FK Sarajevo) :)

ja ako moram birat navijam za Partizan (nisam grobar)

inace NK Novi Pazar je moj tim (igraju u 1 Ligi Srbije)

hmm Bosna i Hercegovina na cirilici, that explains alot.
yup you can read

[boris4c]

ja ali kazu za navijace slavije (jer oni sami to kazu)

da navijaju za Slaviju samo kad Crvena Zvezda neigra

a vidim da ti navijas na Crvenu Zvezdu ...to je nako isto ko sto neki navijaju za FK Torpedo (tj. FKS)

Naravno da navijam za Zvezdu. Navijac sam Slavije samo kad se tice BiH prventsva. :)

NAPRED ZVEZDO TEBE VOLIM JAAA :)

[FK SARAJEVO]

Koji si ti djavo dosao ovde da se svadjas. Realno diskutujemo o postavljenom topiku, svak ima svoje argumente i misljenje, i to je poenta svega ovoga, a ti ovde zagadjujes (???). Sta ako covek stavi BiH cirilicom. Mozda ti to nisi znao al cirilica je uz latinicu sluzbeni alfabet tvoje drzave. Ja nisam za mrznju, jer ja ne znam da mrzim (a ni Sinter koliko sam ja uspeo videti do sada). Imam mnoge prijatelje Bosnjake i super se slazemo, ja znam ko su stvarno oni, i tako oni znaju ko sam ja. Jebes mi sve ako mi cak idol nije neki Bosnjak. Lepo i mirno diskutujemo o jednom velikom delu BiH politike a ti ovde siris svoje negativne vibracije? Ako nisi zadovoljan, slobodno otidji i ne moras se vracati na diskusije "Politika". (nemoj brate ni citati sta mi pisemo.)

diskusujete realno i mirno?? mislis diskusujes entitet napravljen genocidom nad mojim narodom.

nemoj me pogresno shvatiti, nisam ni ja za mrznju, ali ako ikako priznas ovu republiku, ti nisi za mir. ako imate i trag osjecaja svi bi pljuvali po ovoj republici an ne nju diskusovali.

[boris4c]

Totalno me ne zanima na koji je nacin ovaj entitet stvoren, ja to dobro znam a o tome ja ne razmisljam. Ko god razmislja o tome stvara sebi probleme u mozgu. Zalim zbog mnogobrojnih zrtava ovog krvavog i jebenog rata (sa svih strana). Nema ni jedna porodica, ma sa bilo koje strane, da nije izgubila nekog u ovom ratu ma bio to otac, deda, tetak, tetka, ujak, deda, rodjak, itd... Lista je preduga. Ja podrzavam ovaj entitet u potpunosti, BiH je deo mene a ja sam Srbin. Necu ja tako lako da zaboravim ono sto je moje (a to je moje parce Bosne). Isto tako ni jedan Srbin iz Bosne nece zaboraviti sta bjese njegovo. Isto tako Bosnjak razmisla, a to je sasvim normalno. Ti ako mislis da nije normalno da Srbi imaju nesta svoje u Bosni, onda ti nisi normalan. Sve ovo sto se desilo je bila greska, i to kako. Medjutim, gledamo u buducnost. Gledamo sta je najbolje, a najbolje resenje se SIGURNO ne nalazi u spajanje dva entiteta za jednu jedinu Bosnu. Predlozio bi da se ubrzo u to uveris, ili makar razmislis o tome. Ja bih jos jednom da se ponovim: BiH je evropska drzava sa tri (3) naroda. Takva je to zemlja, i to ili ja ne mozemo to promeniti nikakvim reformama. To i jeste lepota BiH. Medjutim ljudi su zivotinje i upropaste takvu kulturu. Kada pricam sa ljudima ovde u Kanadi, svi kazu kako je lepo otici u Bosnu i videti dzamiju pored pravoslavne crkve, a preko puta eto ti i katolicke. Medjutim, mrznja je deo nas, a mi nikako da zaboravimo i da krenemo ka buducnosti. Mentalitet nam je sranje, taman se dobro krene i opsss, sve padne u govna. Ja samo kazem da je RS zvanicni entited BiH, i ja sam presretan ukoliko RS ostane ono sto i jeste. Ukidanjem RS se nece nista steci, osim veceg nacionalizma i mrznje medju gradjanima. Uglavnom je politicka kriza u BiH u ovom trenutku, a kao sto rece Sinter, to jest posao politicara da rese sve ovo. Medjutim, mi smo ovde pricali o raznim varijantama i razlicitim stvarima sto se tice RS, a ja u tome ne vidim problem. Ziv bio.

[Saraj Fanático]

Mi svi imamo svoje misljenje ali ako bih mene pito, Ova "Republika" sluzi smo namjeru da Bosnu i Hercegovinu i dalje rastavlja.


@ Boris: Buraz, u Republici Srpskoj ima ti dosta nacionalizma, bilo ili ne entiteta. Uvijek ce to postojati. Mi to svi dobro znamo. Nemislim reci sad da u Federaciji Nema. Ali sta stvara mrznju u RS je da ljudi tu jos uvijek vjeruju da ce bit naka bolja Srbija i imaju naviku da se vise brinu za svoje zelje nego zelje drzave. Jer zbog bas ovog entiteta narod se razdvaja. Svaka drzava treba da ima jednu vlast a ne dvije. Jer kad imas vise nego jednu vlast onda ti sranje dodje. Svi misle za svoje i sta bih njima najbolje doslo umjesto drzave. Zato ova drzava nikad nece ici dalje u bolju buducnost dok ova Republika postoji. Mi smo svi svjestni da Srpski narod ce uvijek da postoji u nasoj zemlji i to nije ovdje nakav sudar ali mi nikad necemo prihvatiti entitet koja samo sluzi da nasu zemlju dijeli a i pogotovo nas narod.

[Centarfor9]

Mi smo svi svjestni da Srpski narod ce uvijek da postoji u nasoj zemlji
:faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:

ali mi nikad necemo prihvatiti entitet koja samo sluzi da nasu zemlju dijeli a i pogotovo nas narod.
with changes that are going to come about that won't be a problem

[FK SARAJEVO]

Borise svaka tebi cast, da je vise srba kao ti bio bi balkan puno bolji i mirniji.

al mi ne mozemo da ne razmisljamo i zaboravljamo sta je bilo, jer ako to dopustimo, ponovice se genocid nad nama!

[Saraj Fanático]

:faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:

Treba da se Bosanski Srbi, i Hrvati prepoznaju kao gradjani Bosne i Hercegovine.


Jebiga mislio sam napisati 'Mi smo svi svjestni da Srpski narod ce uvijek da postoji u ovoj zemlji' :D



with changes that are going to come about that won't be a problem

yeah i doubt that....

[Centarfor9]

yeah i doubt that....
i never

(i'm not sure what changes you thinking about but i think they are different than what i'm thinking about)

[BBBTG]

Ja cu se osjecat građanin BIH kad se za to slove uslovi

[boris4c]

Pak: RS bolje funkcioniše od Federacije BiH
Petak, 29. jun 2007. 18:14

Šef delegacije Evropskog parlamenta za jugoistočnu Evropu Doris Pak izjavila je da Republika Srpska ima strukturu koja funkcioniše, za razliku od Federacije BiH.

“Ne možete da ušetate u Ustav i kažete da želite da raspustite entitete. Pogledajte strukturu Federacije: ima deset kantona, od kojih dva ni devet meseci nakon izbora nemaju vlade", rekla je Pakova u Briselu na Devetom sastanku delegacija Evropskog parlamenta i Parlamentarne skupštine BiH.

Ona je istakla da 11 godina nakon Dejtonskog mirovnog sporazuma ne bi bilo fer da medjunarodna zajednica nameće rešenje Ustava BiH.

"Ne verujem da BiH ne može da preuzme odgovornost na sebe. Dok god entiteti mogu da žive zajedno, moraju biti tako organizovani da mogu da funkcionišu. RS je u boljem položaju da ovo postigne od Federacije sa deset kantona", naglasila je ona.

(MONDO)

[BBBTG]

Pak: RS bolje funkcioniše od Federacije BiH
Petak, 29. jun 2007. 18:14

Šef delegacije Evropskog parlamenta za jugoistočnu Evropu Doris Pak izjavila je da Republika Srpska ima strukturu koja funkcioniše, za razliku od Federacije BiH.

“Ne možete da ušetate u Ustav i kažete da želite da raspustite entitete. Pogledajte strukturu Federacije: ima deset kantona, od kojih dva ni devet meseci nakon izbora nemaju vlade", rekla je Pakova u Briselu na Devetom sastanku delegacija Evropskog parlamenta i Parlamentarne skupštine BiH.

Ona je istakla da 11 godina nakon Dejtonskog mirovnog sporazuma ne bi bilo fer da medjunarodna zajednica nameće rešenje Ustava BiH.

"Ne verujem da BiH ne može da preuzme odgovornost na sebe. Dok god entiteti mogu da žive zajedno, moraju biti tako organizovani da mogu da funkcionišu. RS je u boljem položaju da ovo postigne od Federacije sa deset kantona", naglasila je ona.

(MONDO)
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Centarfor9]

Pak: RS bolje funkcioniše od Federacije BiH
Petak, 29. jun 2007. 18:14

Šef delegacije Evropskog parlamenta za jugoistočnu Evropu Doris Pak izjavila je da Republika Srpska ima strukturu koja funkcioniše, za razliku od Federacije BiH.

“Ne možete da ušetate u Ustav i kažete da želite da raspustite entitete. Pogledajte strukturu Federacije: ima deset kantona, od kojih dva ni devet meseci nakon izbora nemaju vlade", rekla je Pakova u Briselu na Devetom sastanku delegacija Evropskog parlamenta i Parlamentarne skupštine BiH.

Ona je istakla da 11 godina nakon Dejtonskog mirovnog sporazuma ne bi bilo fer da medjunarodna zajednica nameće rešenje Ustava BiH.

"Ne verujem da BiH ne može da preuzme odgovornost na sebe. Dok god entiteti mogu da žive zajedno, moraju biti tako organizovani da mogu da funkcionišu. RS je u boljem položaju da ovo postigne od Federacije sa deset kantona", naglasila je ona.

(MONDO)
pa ja fukncionise bolje ko Iraq, Libija, Kuba, Venecuela, Sudan, Darfur i ostala takva mjesta

[Saraj Fanático]

Pak: RS bolje funkcioniše od Federacije BiH
Petak, 29. jun 2007. 18:14

Šef delegacije Evropskog parlamenta za jugoistočnu Evropu Doris Pak izjavila je da Republika Srpska ima strukturu koja funkcioniše, za razliku od Federacije BiH.

“Ne možete da ušetate u Ustav i kažete da želite da raspustite entitete. Pogledajte strukturu Federacije: ima deset kantona, od kojih dva ni devet meseci nakon izbora nemaju vlade", rekla je Pakova u Briselu na Devetom sastanku delegacija Evropskog parlamenta i Parlamentarne skupštine BiH.

Ona je istakla da 11 godina nakon Dejtonskog mirovnog sporazuma ne bi bilo fer da medjunarodna zajednica nameće rešenje Ustava BiH.

"Ne verujem da BiH ne može da preuzme odgovornost na sebe. Dok god entiteti mogu da žive zajedno, moraju biti tako organizovani da mogu da funkcionišu. RS je u boljem položaju da ovo postigne od Federacije sa deset kantona", naglasila je ona.

(MONDO)


Jest!...................Ali u Kurcu.

[Bosnian Unit]

@ DelijaZauvjek

Its Republika Srpska, just a entity in Bosnia and Herzegovina and have no right for independence according to Dayton Agreement unless all peoples of Bosnia and Herzegovina agree on that.

Republic in this RS case does not mean something like Republic of Ireland, or R. of Croatia......it has no meaning like that.

On the other hand Kosovo is recognized as Autonomous Region
of Kos-Met since 1945 , just like Autonomous Region of Vojvodina while RS didnt exist then and never had SUCH A STATUS.

RS is just one of two entitys who cant do nothing without voice of Bosnia and Herzegovina, not just RS but FBIH also.

It goes like this:
1.BIH
2.FBIH
3.RS

And if there is something done against the law and DA, RS would not break away just like and peacefully, its not possible.

Just take a look at the shape of the entity, it has appsolutly no chance to survive if there is war. It would be cut on two halfs by Brcko, and its most populated area would be surrounded by Bosniaks and Croats, 70% of its population would be in situation as Sarajevo people where during siege.

Like that would not be able to recive help from Serbia, or anybody it would be runed ower in matter of weeks.

Dodik and everyone knows that, thats why he said there is no chance for war he knows there is no way he can win in that kind of situation.

The fact is this is maximum Serbs can do in Bosnia, and their goal is to keep it like this while they can, thats why they are stoping any kind of improvement. But that's all they can do, not agree with EU/BIH but sooner or later they will have to.

In case you are not familiar what im talking about, take a look.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/9/93/Brcko02.png

[Sarajbahçe]

^ if there is a war again.. im sure the people from hercegovina got support from Croatia and the people in Republika Srpska got the support of Serbia and who do we have the support of?
Turkey is too far and Iran is even further and they have their own problems now especially with the U.S. trying to go to war with them!
i respect serbs and croats, i have nationalists though..
but no offence to any serbs.. something really needs to change about RS
i would rather split it up and we all live in peace together rather than dividing ourselves and try joining Serbia because that will never happen and we all know that
so i dont know about the others, but i dont mind if you guys live in this beautiful land of ours in peace withour RS :)

[Sarajbahçe]

dont worry about war guys. The US has 60,000 soldiers currently in Germany and they have said they will prevent any kind of war. So 60,000 soldiers right next to the balkans will ensure no war will happen.

and Sarajevo.. America is sooo full of shit that they are willing to say anything to make them look good on the world stage
do you think they would really do anything to stop the war?
they got enough problems in the Middle East and now the Russia - America Missile Conflict and last thing they need is to get involved in another war
so dont believe everything that they say

[Cihangir]

₣Ҝ Şāŗāĵēνō: They couldn't ***k up Bosnia when it was nothing and now I don't think that if another war breaks out, they will manage to ruin Bosniaks.
We can build hundred "stari most"s and mosques!
We can fight with their hate vomiting bombs with our hearts.

[Saraj Fanático]

^ if there is a war again.. im sure the people from hercegovina got support from Croatia and the people in Republika Srpska got the support of Serbia and who do we have the support of?
Turkey is too far and Iran is even further and they have their own problems now especially with the U.S. trying to go to war with them!
i respect serbs and croats, i have nationalists though..
but no offence to any serbs.. something really needs to change about RS
i would rather split it up and we all live in peace together rather than dividing ourselves and try joining Serbia because that will never happen and we all know that
so i dont know about the others, but i dont mind if you guys live in this beautiful land of ours in peace withour RS :)


For the love of god man, Bosnia needs no support. This is not ***king 1991! Its 2007! We have a military. One which is pretty advanced. And so many households have AK-47's and Weaponry its unbelievable. But most of all we have heart and bravery. Herceg Bosna will not even get 1 rifle from Croatia since the President of that nation already stated Croatia's stand on the Herceg-Bosna issue. Which is, BiH is their country. And I really doubt Croats would want to get involved when they make up a 10% of the population. Not a good idea. They would rather stand with us. A decision that would benefit their people.

Serbia would be supporting the Genocide Mini State for a good week or so. Then Brcko would basically fall into our hands and the entire Western part of the Genocide state would be screwed. Banja Luka would be in our hands in just a matter of weeks. The only part of the operation that would be difficult to manage is securing the East. But when the capital of the Genocide state has already collapsed the East doesn't have much to play with, do they.

I would rather see another conflict take place in the Genocide state then watch Dodik and his douche bags continue spitting on the graves of so many Bosniaks and Croats killed creating his "Republika".

However this is all not most likely going to happen. Dodik is taking stupidity trying to help out next door Belgrade. But he knows the destiny of his Mini State. Kosovo if Independent will not affect our nation. And if it does, its a guarantee that the Genocide State will be removed. It will be destroyed both ways, one option is they can wait it out and watch it fall apart or they can push for war and...well I think I already stated what would occur in that case.

[Saraj Fanático]

I hope the Croats and Bosniaks cry in joy with the Albanians when you succesfully manage to remove every Serb from this world and take what we built. Maybe you will cry when you realise how much we needed each other in this world but probably not.

Long live the West, Turkey, and Albania. Death to Serbia.


Stop acting like some child. We don't care about Kosovo. We just gave our opinions. What we do care about is the Genocide State within our nation trying to make Serbia's problem, one of ours. That is the problem here. Kosovo can join Macedonia for all I care. All I care about is how the Genocide state is shifting Serb problems to being problems of my nation and people. You are making it look like we are calling for the death of Serb people, we are talking about the death of a state built on Blood. This has nothing to do with harming Serbs but you like to pretend it does so you can satirize this issue.

[FK SARAJEVO]

^ if there is a war again.. im sure the people from hercegovina got support from Croatia and the people in Republika Srpska got the support of Serbia and who do we have the support of?
Turkey is too far and Iran is even further and they have their own problems now especially with the U.S. trying to go to war with them!
i respect serbs and croats, i have nationalists though..
but no offence to any serbs.. something really needs to change about RS
i would rather split it up and we all live in peace together rather than dividing ourselves and try joining Serbia because that will never happen and we all know that
so i dont know about the others, but i dont mind if you guys live in this beautiful land of ours in peace withour RS :)

dude it does not matter if Iran and Saudi Arabia are far away, they will send money and weapons to us. Turkey has the millitary capabilty to strike the serbs if they wanted to, the Turkish army can carry out military attack as far as Australia. not to mention there are 50 million Muslims in Europe, so Bosniaks have alot of allies from the Muslim side.

We also have allies from the EU and the Americans.


and if all them let us down (which is 0.00000001% that it will happen) our military can take care of us. If we could fight the JNA in 92, then we should have no problem with serbs or croats today.

SERBS ARE AWARE OF THIS!!!

THEY WOULD BE STUPID TO START A WAR WITH US!

[Pape]

Yeah it would be suicide. You can't go to war with Bosniaks, Albanians, or Croatians these days if you are the Serbs because you will basically be playing against not only them but against the EU, USA, who would be fighting together again with the Middle East together to defeat the Serbs. :lol:

[Sarajbahçe]

@ Saraj : lol you should really be promoted to Commander in our Army..

@ FK Sarajevo : dont rely on the EU and Americans for support, they got too many of their problems

and at Dodik, i saw an interview of him on a bosnian site where he kept being a seljak as usual and started saying stuff like "Daj Ne Seri.. Majke Ti Ne Seri" as usual when the reporter caught him on some things he just changes the topic and says rude things to him. Get this.. He has 7 houses in Beogard.. Thats right SEVEN and the reporter asks him why he doesnt have any houses in Banja Luka. I hate that guy with a passion.. if i ever see him on the streets.. god help me.. even the Red Cross wouldn't be able to clean up the mess!

[Bosnian Unit]

@ Saraj : lol you should really be promoted to Commander in our Army..

@ FK Sarajevo : dont rely on the EU and Americans for support, they got too many of their problems

and at Dodik, i saw an interview of him on a bosnian site where he kept being a seljak as usual and started saying stuff like "Daj Ne Seri.. Majke Ti Ne Seri" as usual when the reporter caught him on some things he just changes the topic and says rude things to him. Get this.. He has 7 houses in Beogard.. Thats right SEVEN and the reporter asks him why he doesnt have any houses in Banja Luka. I hate that guy with a passion.. if i ever see him on the streets.. god help me.. even the Red Cross wouldn't be able to clean up the mess!


Dodik is just making money, selling everything that he can for his profit and few other people around him. He dont care about Bosnian Serbs, but they just cant see that.

If you just can see back what he has said, its al lies and whatever he has promised to his people DIDNT HAPPEND. Media is in his hands, and plays HUGE PART in that entity, people now think differently since he has done nothing what he promised. Just like Silajdzic for us.

Now we dont need help from US/S.Arabia.......they have never helped us they just bringed us trouble. Saudi Arabia by sending those Wahabis, good thing they are out.

And US/EU had embargo on our country so we cant buy weapons, and by forcing us to sign Dayton Agreement while we could capture Banja Luka and go all the way to our Eastern border on Drina.

Just one huge fact now, our Army during war/agression in 90's had just 10 tanks, now we have around 400.

Not to mention all other stuff !

Srebrenica will never happend again, and they would never again attack some city and force everyone out becouse those cities will have people who are rady to protect it and who has equipment to do so comparing back in 90's.

[Saraj Fanático]

There was an recent poll asking 'Why wouldn't you be afraid of another war in BiH' and over 80% said 'Because now I am armed'. :lol:

[Pape]

Military of BiH altogether has actually has just about 350 tanks and 237 of those are from the army of RS which are a bunch of outdated Soviet and Yugoslavian junk and the rest are also additons gifted outdated junk from the US and Europe. So its very wrong to say army of BiH went from 10 to 400 tanks...

[Bosnian Unit]

Military of BiH altogether has actually has just about 350 tanks and 237 of those are from the army of RS which are a bunch of outdated Soviet and Yugoslavian junk and the rest are also additons gifted outdated junk from the US and Europe. So its very wrong to say army of BiH went from 10 to 400 tanks...


Army of RS doesnt exist :)

As i said around 400, and the ones that we had during war where in worst conditions then these are now.


Or in your way, we went from 10 to 350 is still impressive, and there is nothing wrong about that :D

[Pape]

This thread is a terrible idea...

[poutismalakas]

well it is better than hijaking another thread!

[Centarfor9]

what is happening with Dodik? he caved in???

[Centarfor9]

there is a thread about that already

Republika Srpska Politics (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=53887)

[Sarajbahçe]

Serbia should get rid of Albanians, Dodik says

Author: German Press Agency (DPA)
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