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Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 04:55 PM
OT:http://fedefutbol.net/images/logos/KOS.gif
kosovo's football federation badge....i wonder how their NT is going to perform they already beat saudi arabia in a friendly

All i know is that Kosovo has that kid Behrami from Lazio to work with, he is incredible if you ask me.

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 04:59 PM
lol................
Hey geuss what guys...
Republika Srpska is next to call independence..Thanks for not sticking up for us..
Now Bosnia will be even smaller and will be the size of Andorra..
Congrats =D

Please do! I think we will all have a great laugh when the Genocide State gets rejected. Delija you seem like an "Interesting" fella, tell me, when did the Genocide State exist before the ethnic cleansing occurred of Bosniaks in that region? There is your answer to independence. :lol:

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 05:05 PM
REPUBLIKA SRPSKA OURS!!!!!!!
Whats the difference between Kosovo and RS?
none...
Bye bye little Bosnia..See, if you sticked up for us during the Kosovo case we wouldn't have had to do this..but you betray us and now we take what is rightfully ours...
Banja Luka will look nice in Serbia =D


You just exposed your lack of knowledge there. You do not even know the History of the Genocide State yet the little nationalist will give us some threats. I want the Genocide Mini-State to try and reach for Independence, it will only further our cause to terminate it once the pathetic believers in this falsehood "state" learn that it won't ever leave our borders. Why? Because such a entity never existed before the massacres, rape, and prosecution of Muslims took place in the region. Kosovo has a history which wasn't built on blood unlike that piteous piece of land.

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 05:08 PM
^well said...thats what is exactly going to happen...RS never existed before the war and it will never seperate from bosnia it can only be abolished

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 05:17 PM
^^^^^^^^^
Lol....You think Bosnia will go to war with Serbia???
We could polverize you guys in 1 week.....
Come on stop kidding yourself..
We can do this peacefully..
We bring in our tanks and make a fense and your bosnians have 1 week to get the hell out of RS or else they may never leave again =D...
I think thats a great trade..We give up 2 million Muslims and in return we get 2 million Serbs..Not so shabby heheh...
Plus the land..
Bosnia will be the size of Andorra then..
Da nema Amerike vi bi se pisali u gacama......
Does Bosnia even have a 21st century Army? lol
or do you guys still use bows and arrows?

Serbs...will Polverize us...in...1 week? :lol::lol::lol::lol: You didn't "polverize" us in 3 years. Your pathetic excuse of an Army got rocked so hard that the US had to step in just to avoid Banja Luka becoming a dumpster. Read a bit about Operation Sana and what it would have meant for the Genocide State. You have a history of celebrating defeats so you go into war on a intention of getting spanked. The Turks ripping you apart in Kosovo is a good example. :lol: Serbs had a chance to actually get rid of us all, we had nothing, and you had it all. And for you to still not walk away with anything but a doomed Genocide Entity to the East is miserable for those conditions. I would be embarrassed even talking about my fellow countryman actually going to another war if I were you. Also, your idea of persecuting Muslims just goes to show what kind of person you are while nobody here is talking about forcing Serbs to flee.

Majmune, gdje nam je bila SAD za 3 godine kad ste nas klali? A sad je ispalo da je SAD nas branila za taj period? Daj majketi idi lezi. Nemas blage veze.

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 05:22 PM
The fact is if RS starts complaining they they want to seperate from Bosnia...
NATO, UN, AMERICA or anyone can't stop that from happening.. Esp. since Russia and China would enforce that law, since they would be saying US is not playing a fair game giving Kosov independence and not RS....
Do you see my argument..
Plus there is a lot of controversy going on in RS..and people are starting to talk about seperation..
Why the hell would Bosnia care anyways???
RS has always been the land of the Serbs anyways..
notice the name Republika Srpska???
you want Serbians living in your land??
Whats the problem?? You don't want your population to drop down? You don't want to lose land?? Answer please because I don't see the problem.

Another quote of the week. Do you want me to give you what Milosevic and Mladic said about the US and Europe stopping them and then do you want to see some pictures of the outcome of 1 day of F-16's and F-22's giving them a visit? ARBiH has defended itself before with a short delivery of AK-47's from the Iranians and everything else they got it from coward Serbian "Soldiers"...or cheerleaders, who have abandoned their posts and left behind tanks, ammunition, and artillery.

Milos_
02-18-2008, 05:24 PM
BiH is trying to be a mini-Yugo but Yugo didnt work in WW2 or in the 1990's so it wont work now eighter.

Rebublika Srpska will be free:thumbsup:

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 05:27 PM
......Ali u Kurcu.

Almir11
02-18-2008, 05:27 PM
haha milos u make me laugh RS will be free hahaha

13Ballack13
02-18-2008, 05:33 PM
jooj ko da me boli kurac ako cje republika biti slobodni, ti si puno smotan camo pricas bez veza

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 05:40 PM
REPUBLIKA SRPSKA WILL SOON BE NO MORE....IT WILL BE BOSNA I HERCEGOVINA...it will have to be abolished if we get into the EU.....so dont expect anything other than that sorry to ruin your plans!!

Almir11
02-18-2008, 05:43 PM
of hopefully we will get in to the EU so fuk RS!!!!!!

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 05:45 PM
Man I am telling you they created the Genocide Entity to push Milosevic into attack on Kosovo. The moron actually did it and ended up costing Serbia everything they are mad about these days. The Genocide Entity has no purpose now that Kosovo is Independent. It will get abolished or the slick US will lay another trick for Serbs. :lol:

Almir11
02-18-2008, 05:47 PM
USA USA USA USA !!!!!! lol

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 05:51 PM
I do not really support some of the things the US did, they toyed with everyone's lifes to bring Yugoslavia to an end. The innocent payed the biggest price. And I mean everyones people (Bosnian, Serb, Croat, Albanian), no division shit here, we all suffered.

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 05:53 PM
but seriously guys they cant take away land that a lot of bosnians that fled to like america and other parts of the world own in the genocide mini state....thats why RS will never be independent...most bosnians that fled were from RS which is rightfully BiH.

13Ballack13
02-18-2008, 05:56 PM
yes indeed we all suffered in some way, the us did a lot of dum things like u said bringing Yugoslavia to an end and much more...

FR Sloboda
02-18-2008, 05:57 PM
Republika Srpska aka Genocide country cannot declare indepandence - they do not even have an autonomus border or region - they are an Entity without Borders - they have no power to declare independance.

ps Lajcak is the desicon maker:d

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 06:32 PM
haha milos u make me laugh RS will be free hahaha

it could be a possibility!? IF Kosovo can get independance then why not RS! I think Kosovo's Independence could have some serious consequences for Bosnia's terrirorial integrity!??

FK SARAJEVO
02-18-2008, 07:01 PM
RS can declare independence, but nobody will recognize it so there is no point.

Britian, France, Germany, Italy, US, Afghanistan, Australia and Turkey have recognized Kosovo so far.

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 07:03 PM
Oh my god, what must I do for you to get it through to your heads. THE GENOCIDE STATE HAS NO HISTORY BEFORE THE EXECUTIONS OF THOUSANDS OF MUSLIMS IN THOSE AREAS! Its built on blood! There is no history of its existence. Its like the Dominicans in New York saying 'Yeah we want Manhattan as ours!', now tell me would that make sense?? No because there is no history of their influence there before the damn 80s and whatnot.

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 07:05 PM
Once the US recognizes a region you can blow every efforts to stop its Independence, the US runs the world and what they say is pretty much final. The mack Daddy (Bush) has spoken and decided and nobody can change that.

Centarfor9
02-18-2008, 07:06 PM
Afghanistan lol

13Ballack13
02-18-2008, 07:07 PM
Hahahah so tru^^

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 07:10 PM
Man I am telling you they created the Genocide Entity to push Milosevic into attack on Kosovo. The moron actually did it and ended up costing Serbia everything they are mad about these days. The Genocide Entity has no purpose now that Kosovo is Independent. It will get abolished or the slick US will lay another trick for Serbs. :lol:

You guy are being Naive! It is because of the Bush Administration is so under fire for invading Iraq for Oil that they are throwing you a bone by siding with Kosovo and Bosnacs! The new administration will ignore you guys! Especially when we pull out of Iraq! Bunit is right about this! The world powers throw people scraps from thier tables so that people will be pacified! CNN will start broadcasting the reprisals on Serbs by Albanians soon enuff! Then the Serb majority parts will be removed from Kosovo! If there are any reprisals going in Bosnia a case will be made for RS!

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 07:14 PM
^ Well I do agree with that, but the Genocide State isn't going anywhere, because Europe knows what its built on (Graves of Muslims) and they know better then removing such a region because that would be a reward to genocide. That land goes and another war is under way. The UN doesn't want to deal with that all over again.

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 07:17 PM
it could be a possibility!? IF Kosovo can get independance then why not RS! I think Kosovo's Independence could have some serious consequences for Bosnia's terrirorial integrity!??look at saraj fanaticos other posts and you will get your answer instead of him reapeating him self;)

Almir11
02-18-2008, 07:20 PM
saraj iz right if RS gets independents then a world will start !!!!!!!

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 07:24 PM
^you mean war not world

Almir11
02-18-2008, 07:26 PM
ya my bad

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 07:33 PM
^ Well I do agree with that, but the Genocide State isn't going anywhere, because Europe knows what its built on (Graves of Muslims) and they know better then removing such a region because that would be a reward to genocide. That land goes and another war is under way. The UN doesn't want to deal with that all over again.

The UN is a toothless lion!! If they allowed genocide to occur in Africa without any real consequenses what makes you think RS will not be allowed to ceced? As I said stop waste your breath on hoping US the will help IF RS votes to leave Bosnia especially IF and When they allow Kosovo to cecede from Serbia! Kosovo will open up a can of worms that the UN, NATO and the US may not like in the coming years! Basque nation, Kurdistan, RS, FYROM, Quebec etc....

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 07:40 PM
we arent worried about it breaking away because it wont

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 07:40 PM
The UN is a toothless lion!! If they allowed genocide to occur in Africa without any real consequenses what makes you think RS will not be allowed to ceced? As I said stop waste your breath on hoping US the will help IF RS votes to leave Bosnia especially IF and When they allow Kosovo to cecede from Serbia! Kosovo will open up a can of worms that the UN, NATO and the US may not like in the coming years! Basque nation, Kurdistan, RS, FYROM, Quebec etc....

Maybe because Africa is screwed as it is and they need some tension between groups to keep that gold coming. The West doesn't want no smart African government controlling those riches. And who cares in Europe or the West about Blacks of all people? The Genocide State can vote all they want, their independence is the definition of impossible. Poutis, stop what you are doing and read this carefully....the Genocide State..known as RS...has..never existed...before...the killings...of Muslims..in that region. Kosovo, Kurdistan, Chechnya, and the Basque nation cannot be compared with that. Can of Worms, Montenegro hasn't released no such chain reactions..and Kosovo won't also.

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 07:45 PM
we arent worried about it breaking away because it wont

Exactly, if anybody is worried its Dodik of suggesting it and actually doing so. He will get turned down and the inhabitants of the genocide State will be brought way down in confidence. Also, if he gets rejected and he states he is still going to separate we are obligated by law to send in armed forces into that region...it would be the 6 day war all over again once Brcko goes.

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 07:56 PM
Maybe because Africa is screwed as it is and they need some tension between groups to keep that gold coming. The West doesn't want no smart African government controlling those riches. And who cares in Europe or the West about Blacks of all people? The Genocide State can vote all they want, their independence is the definition of impossible. Poutis, stop what you are doing and read this carefully....the Genocide State..known as RS...has..never existed...before...the killings...of Muslims..in that region. Kosovo, Kurdistan, Chechnya, and the Basque nation cannot be compared with that. Can of Worms, Montenegro hasn't released no such chain reactions..and Kosovo won't also.

Yes they did! Montenegro opened a crack for Kosovo who in turn may have kicked the door off it's hinges!? Also I find it strange that some of you deny what happened to Jews of Europe was Genocide too the point of denying any Jewish deaths occurred but throw out the G word in your case! slighty hypocritical....

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 07:59 PM
@SARAJ FANATICO:thats why dodik wanted bosnia to get rid of our armed forces just a couple of weeks ago...which we ofcourse rejected

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 08:03 PM
@POUTIS:who said anything about jews?????????

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 08:07 PM
Yes they did! Montenegro opened a crack for Kosovo who in turn may have kicked the door off it's hinges!? Also I find it strange that some of you deny what happened to Jews of Europe was Genocide too the point of denying any Jewish deaths occurred but throw out the G word in your case! slighty hypocritical....

My friend Kosovo was aiming for a form of separation since the times of Yugoslavia, if you know anything about this issue you would know of the 1981 riots in Yugoslavia. Montenegro in no way started this. I never denied the Holocaust. I dunno who you are referring to there. I just think its kinda envisioned to say 6 Million were killed. But I never denied the Nazis doing what they did.

Milos_
02-18-2008, 08:15 PM
United Nations Security Council Resolution 1244 authorised an international civil and military presence in the Serbian province of Kosovo, then part of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, placing it under interim UN administration. It was adopted on 10 June 1999. Both sides in the conflict subsequently adopted it in the Kumanovo Treaty.



Reaffirm the sovereignty and territorial integrity of the Federal Republic of Yugoslavia (i.e., Kosovo was to remain part of the FRY, to which Serbia is now the recognized successor state) and the other States of the region, as set out in the Helsinki Final Act and annex 2 of UNSCR 1244

That shows that Kosovo independance is illegal so if the can illegally declare there is NO reason why RS cant.

Republika Srpska will soon be free:thumbsup:

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 08:18 PM
I give up convincing such simple basics to such ignorant people. Someone else please give these people some lectures. Am about to pass out because of all these fantasies floating around.

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 08:20 PM
yea djesi to naso on wikipedia!!

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 08:24 PM
such people just dont get it..there is no point of arguing with them any more..we already told them and answered on all their questions on why RS wont get independence

Pape
02-18-2008, 09:32 PM
Than why are you so concerned?

Pr0s
02-18-2008, 09:32 PM
check this site http://www.kosovothanksyou.com/

edit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080218/ap_on_re_eu/kosovo_serbs
those two videos on the topleft say a lot.

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 09:38 PM
Than why are you so concerned?because its my country and because i can be concerned...and talking to you guys is like talking to a brick wall

Milos_
02-18-2008, 09:54 PM
Than why are you so concerned?

Haha shhhhhh Marko.They are so unconcerned that they have to tell us 500 times that the arent concered:D

OK, maybe we were Muslim for 250 years, but we were Orthodox before that and deep down we were always Serbs, religion cannot change that. We only became Muslims to survive the Turks.

- Emir Kusturica, film maker and director of the upcoming Maradona documentary (2008)

What a guy:thumbsup:

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 09:59 PM
500 years not 250!!

Pr0s
02-18-2008, 10:01 PM
Seeking to address the concerns of Russia and others about a free Kosovo, the foreign ministers stressed that Kosovo should be an exception to the international rule that national borders can be changed only if all parties agree.

this is interesting
http://www.earthtimes.org/articles/show/186364,bosnia-puts-recognition-of-kosovo.html

Pape
02-18-2008, 10:02 PM
No your country is a dream muslim country that you have failed to create and that is creeping with corruption, if you lose RS you will fall down under Kosovo in 10 years time. And as I stated before Bosnia has 1,400,000 Serbs and 1,700,000 Muslims and some 400,000 Croats you are only dreaming if you are talking about controlling the place.

Anyways I really don't care much about what happens with RS "independence". To me the border between the Adriatic through Serbia don't mean munch and I've never had a problem living with Muslims and the Serbs have never forced the Muslims to convert and let them pray in prayer if they wanted to pray and let you drink with us if you choose to (Unlike your brother Turks).

You need to learn though that the RS was created in 1992, not in 1995 after this bloodshed and you need to respect the hardship of the displaced Serbs in the RS who will never respect you if you don't respect them. After all there is a much higher number of displaced Serbs in BiH than there is in the Federation so think again if you feel you are more motivated for some justice than them.

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 10:11 PM
keep on giving your pathetic lectures to someone else...i have said enough here for today

Pape
02-18-2008, 10:15 PM
Well you guys always run from the facts when they are presented, there is really nothing more to expect.

Pr0s
02-18-2008, 10:17 PM
Kosovo's independence to be monitored by Bosnia-Herzegovina

By Zdravko Ljubas, Sarajevo/Banja Luka, Feb 17: The pending independence of the breakaway Serb province of Kosovo should not have a significant influence on the security situation in Bosnia-Herzegovina, but political consequences may become visible later.


Bosnia-Herzegovina, a country divided into two ethnic entities by the Dayton Peace Agreement that ended the country's 1992-1995 war, probably won't react immediately to developments in Kosovo, but will closely monitor the situation.

Emotions about the possible outcome in Kosovo remain split between Bosnian Muslims and Croats on one side, who do not take the issue too emotionally, and Bosnian Serbs on the other, who consider the issue of Kosovo another attack on Serbs.

While Bosnian Muslim and Croat officials said the case of Kosovo should not reflect on the situation in Bosnia-Herzegovina, some Bosnian Serb organizations announced massive protests across the Bosnian Serb entity, the Srpska Republic, if Kosovo becomes independent.

Some students' association called for peaceful demonstrations in Srpska, while the association of several war veterans' organisations, SPONA, called on Bosnian Serbs to remain calm, but said they would demand Bosnian Serb authorities to consider the issue of Srpska's independence in case of the independence of Kosovo.

Bosnian Serbs, who make some 37 percent of the four million population of Bosnia-Herzegovina and who live mostly in the Srpska Republic, are, according to Bosnian Serb Prime Minister Milorad Dodik, nervous because of Kosovo, but they should remain calm.

"Not only media, but citizens too ask what we will do and my answer is that we have to stay calm," said Dodik.

The Bosnian Serb police, according to Police Director Uros Pena, are ready to act in case of any serious unrest that may occur following the developments in Kosovo.

"We know that certain reactions may happen in the Srpska Republic and that something will happen for sure," Pena told reporters in Banja Luka.

Some 2,500 international troops in Bosnia-Herzegovina would also be ready to act if needed, although they also expect the issue of Kosovo will not harm the security situation in Bosnia.

Kosovo and Bosnia, according to Major David Fielder, a spokesman for the European Union Force (EUFOR) in Bosnia-Herzegovina, are separate issues.

"In both areas we see a safe and secure environment, but we have contingency plans for both Bosnia and Kosovo and if necessary we can carry out those contingency plans," said Fielder.

"At the moment we are very relaxed," he said.

As to the political aspect of Kosovo's looming independence, Bosnia-Herzegovina, according to some of the reactions of its officials so far, will try to keep a neutral position due to a complex domestic political scene and numerous unsolved political and economic issues in the country.

Bosnia-Herzegovina, according to the country's Foreign Minister Sven Alkalaj, would probably be one of the last countries to recognize an independent Kosovo.

Any unilateral recognition of Kosovo's independence, according to Bosnian Serb President Rajko Kuzmanovic, "is an act of violation of the principles of the international laws" and may cause separatist and secessionist movements in other countries in the region.

"Bosnia-Herzegovina will not give its support to the recognition of Kosovo, especially the Srpska Republic. There is only one solution that we (Bosnian Serbs) can accept - continuation of negotiations about Kosovo and the full consent of both sides (Serbs and Albanians)," said Kuzmanovic in an interview with a local newspaper.

Only such a solution, he said, could guarantee long-lasting stability in Serbia and Kosovo, but also in the entire region.

"The Srpska Republic will not recognize Kosovo and Bosnian Serb representatives in Bosnia-Herzegovina's joint institutions will not vote for Kosovo's recognition," Bosnian Serb Prime Minister Milorad Dodik said.

He also said that a unilateral declaration of Kosovo's independence might encourage similar ideas by others in the region, echoing his earlier suggestion of a possible referendum on the independence of the Bosnian Serb entity.

However, according to the international administrator to Bosnia-Herzegovina, Slovak diplomat Miroslav Lajcak, "any artificial attempt to link the future of Kosovo with Bosnia-Herzegovina must be rejected."

"Kosovo will have an impact on the atmosphere on a psychological level, not only in Bosnia-Herzegovina, but in the entire region. But there is not a single issue related to Bosnia-Herzegovina's future that depends on Kosovo," Lajcak told Bosnian media.

"Bosnia-Herzegovina is not a hostage of Kosovo," he said.

Commenting on possible new demands by Bosnian Serbs for independence in response to Kosovo's independence, Lajcak warned that those who threaten the peace and stability of Bosnia-Herzegovina must be prepared to face the consequences.

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 10:30 PM
I give up convincing such simple basics to such ignorant people. Someone else please give these people some lectures. Am about to pass out because of all these fantasies floating around.

what ignorant people! Also I am just playing the Devil's advocate here!

nb-legenda
02-18-2008, 10:51 PM
@Delija... sorry but Serbian army is very very weak at this moment. They couldn't invade Macedonia at this moment if they tried. btw, why you still trashtalk about Bosnia... you're 25% effin Bosnian! hahahaha :lol:

"Commenting on possible new demands by Bosnian Serbs for independence in response to Kosovo's independence, Lajcak warned that those who threaten the peace and stability of Bosnia-Herzegovina must be prepared to face the consequences."

USA is going to rock the ***k out of your land if you cause stupid nonsense again. The world is effin tired of this nonsense

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 10:52 PM
Than why are you so concerned?

:lol::lol: We are not concerned, we are just talking for the sake of sanity. We are trying to bring some sense to you because it will only hurt more when the genocide State is rejected. Why do you think I actually hope for Dodik to make this move? :)

Pape
02-18-2008, 10:55 PM
ohhh and I thought you guys believed the Americans were terrorists who killed innocent people and now you are calling them to do more of the same for you? :lol:

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 10:55 PM
Haha shhhhhh Marko.They are so unconcerned that they have to tell us 500 times that the arent concered:D

OK, maybe we were Muslim for 250 years, but we were Orthodox before that and deep down we were always Serbs, religion cannot change that. We only became Muslims to survive the Turks.

- Emir Kusturica, film maker and director of the upcoming Maradona documentary (2008)

What a guy:thumbsup:


:lol: Emir....the Cetnik Number 1 Proof...of Bosniaks being Orthodox! Exclusive!

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

nb-legenda
02-18-2008, 10:58 PM
quit insulting in Serbian find your own language :lol:

Sorry that you were to weak for the Ottoman Empire :lol:

I wonder if Serbia will get even smaller?? Vojdovida... anyone?? hahaha :lol:

Serbia got the ugly part of the region... Bosnia, Montenegro, and Croatia got the beautiful parts! :)

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 10:58 PM
ohhh and I thought you guys believed the Americans were terrorists who killed innocent people and now you are calling them to do more of the same for you? :lol:

Pape, who the hell is mentioning Americans in the top post?? I for one think America has done something terrible by toying with lives to end Yugoslavia for good.

Pape, do not be so mad bro. We Bosniaks have nothing to do with Kosovo being take from you. Its that Serb leaders are brainless to say the least. Milosevic was such a moron to even play such games with the West. They have played a hell of a trick on him, hats off to them for that. I suggest you save up your energy, Vojvodina may just be next.

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 11:00 PM
ohhh and I thought you guys believed the Americans were terrorists who killed innocent people and now you are calling them to do more of the same for you? :lol:

I know The US are great people and Bush is grweat leader when you get what you want but the US and bush are a$$holes if you don't get what you want!:rolleyes:

Pr0s
02-18-2008, 11:01 PM
SARAJEVO (Reuters) - Ethnic Serbs in Bosnia and Montenegro reject Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia and will try to block its recognition by their own countries, officials said on Monday.

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The Serb Republic, the autonomous Serb half of Bosnia, said it "neither recognises nor accepts" Sunday's secession, and Prime Minister Milorad Dodik and President Rajko Kuzmanovic branded Kosovo's declaration an "unacceptable act".

Their joint statement made clear the Serb half of Bosnia would stop the central government in Sarajevo recognising Kosovo regardless of the wishes of the more sympathetic Muslim-Croat federation, its partner in the fragile state.

"The Serb Republic will not allow any Bosnian institution to recognise or establish bilateral links with unilaterally declared independent Kosovo," the statement said.

Bosnia's Serbs have been only unwilling partners in Bosnia since the Dayton accords that ended the 1992-95 war. In recent years, they have looked to Kosovo as a precedent they could use to also secede, possibly uniting with Belgrade.

There were mass protests in the regional capital Banja Luka on Sunday and Monday, with some chanting the name of Ratko Mladic, the fugitive war crimes suspect who led the Bosnian Serbs in the war against Bosnian Muslims and Croats. Others sang "Kill, Kill Shiptars", a pejorative name for Albanians.

Dodik, who has threatened a referendum on secession, said on Monday it would be "difficult to explain to people why the Kosovo principle cannot apply" in the Serb Republic's case.

Branislav Dukic, head of a veterans' association, asked the Serb Republic parliament to declare the "self-determination" of the region.

But the international peace envoy for Bosnia, Miroslav Lajcak, said the Balkans had to remain focused on moving towards the EU and not be derailed by Kosovo.

"Any attempt to artificially link Kosovo to Bosnia or its constituent parts must be firmly rejected," Lajcak said in a statement. "Bosnia is in no way hostage to Kosovo nor is the country open to question under international law."

In Montenegro, where Albanians are 7 percent of the population and Serbs 30 percent, the government has only said it will wait for a clear reaction from the European Union it hopes to join before deciding whether to recognise Kosovo.

Ethnic Serb parties called for protests coordinated with Banja Luka and Belgrade, but Albanian parties said independence marked a big day for the Albanian people and the entire Balkans.

In Croatia, local Serb leader Milorad Pupovac, whose party is in the ruling conservative coalition, said Zagreb should not rush into recognition, given its own recent history. Most of its small Serb minority fled at the end of the 1991-95 war.

"For Croatian-Serbian relations, another trauma could prove to a big burden," he told Index.hr news website.
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Last one and what more do you want. That came out of Dodik's mouth.

DelijaZauvjek
02-18-2008, 11:03 PM
so, today I was reading in the news and they said that the first people to congradulate on Kosovo's independence in New York were Bosnians...
ASsholes..
Don't say you don't care..
You guys in the streets are partying ur asses off right now

1bosnian
02-18-2008, 11:06 PM
Pape, who the hell is mentioning Americans in the top post?? I for one think America has done something terrible by toying with lives to end Yugoslavia for good.

Pape, do not be so mad bro. We Bosniaks have nothing to do with Kosovo being take from you. Its that Serb leaders are brainless to say the least. Milosevic was such a moron to even play such games with the West. They have played a hell of a trick on him, hats off to them for that. I suggest you save up your energy, Vojvodina may just be next.
nahh they just cant accept the truth thats all;)

Milos_
02-18-2008, 11:10 PM
Why are you mujos now talking about Vojvodina? am I missing something here or are you all retards? Vojvodina is a Serbian Radical party stronghold and the most nationalistic part of Serbia. Please do not comment on something that you know shit all about.

You are all worried and you sould be becasue soon RS will be free. (im a poet and I didnt even know it:D)

Almir11
02-18-2008, 11:12 PM
so, today I was reading in the news and they said that the first people to congradulate on Kosovo's independence in New York were Bosnians...
ASsholes..
Don't say you don't care..
You guys in the streets are partying ur asses off right now

haha u are right well at least for me i went to party with the albanians and let me tell you delija it was one of the best days of my life they relli no how to party well thats only for me and my famly maybe some other people didnt care but my family was really happy that kosovo got independence !!!!!

DelijaZauvjek
02-18-2008, 11:14 PM
^^^^^^^
Yeah because Serbs killed your relatives, so you guys hate Serbs..
It's understandable..considering you guys had no chance against us in the war..

Almir11
02-18-2008, 11:15 PM
Why are you mujos now talking about Vojvodina? am I missing something here or are you all retards? Vojvodina is a Serbian Radical party stronghold and the most nationalistic part of Serbia. Please do not comment on something that you know shit all about.

You are all worried and you sould be becasue soon RS will be free. (im a poet and I didnt even know it:D)

haha if u really think RS will get independence thn u must be really stupid have u listined to what saraj said at all please read it man and then say something!!!

Pape
02-18-2008, 11:15 PM
:lol: I can just imagine, a hundred Muslim patriots with Budweiser and Jack Daniel bottles in both of their hands waving the U.S. and Albanian flags :lol:

Almir11
02-18-2008, 11:19 PM
^^^^^^^
Yeah because Serbs killed your relatives, so you guys hate Serbs..
It's understandable..considering you guys had no chance against us in the war..

if we had the weapons u guys had then we would have killed u guys and i dont care i had a great time with the albanians ....... some serbs came to crash it and when they saw how many people were there they ran like lil pussys !!!!

Almir11
02-18-2008, 11:28 PM
:lol: I can just imagine, a hundred Muslim patriots with Budweiser and Jack Daniel bottles in both of their hands waving the U.S. and Albanian flags :lol:

well ya better then with u guys !!!!!!!

Almir11
02-18-2008, 11:29 PM
:lol: I can just imagine, a hundred Muslim patriots with Budweiser and Jack Daniel bottles in both of their hands waving the U.S. and Albanian flags :lol:

well if it gets rid of u guys party on !!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

Pape
02-18-2008, 11:30 PM
Muslim brothers only party I imagine? :lol:

poutismalakas
02-18-2008, 11:31 PM
no name calling fellas! OK

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 11:32 PM
No your country is a dream muslim country that you have failed to create and that is creeping with corruption, if you lose RS you will fall down under Kosovo in 10 years time. And as I stated before Bosnia has 1,400,000 Serbs and 1,700,000 Muslims and some 400,000 Croats you are only dreaming if you are talking about controlling the place.

Anyways I really don't care much about what happens with RS "independence". To me the border between the Adriatic through Serbia don't mean munch and I've never had a problem living with Muslims and the Serbs have never forced the Muslims to convert and let them pray in prayer if they wanted to pray and let you drink with us if you choose to (Unlike your brother Turks).

You need to learn though that the RS was created in 1992, not in 1995 after this bloodshed and you need to respect the hardship of the displaced Serbs in the RS who will never respect you if you don't respect them. After all there is a much higher number of displaced Serbs in BiH than there is in the Federation so think again if you feel you are more motivated for some justice than them.

Our country wanted to be Muslim controlled? You are claiming this because of Alija Izetbegovic's earlier years in the political game in BiH. Because of his book you concluded that Bosniaks wanted BiH for them selfs. Correct me if I am wrong but didn't Fikret Abdic win over Alija in the BiH election for President of the Presidency? Goes to show you how much Bosniaks wanted this. Soon after Alija turned from such assignment and aimed for higher Democratic values. And who never did so? Bosnian Serbs with their Yugoslavia loyalty which would soon enough evolve into Great Serbia. DO NOT tell us about Corruption. The Genocide State is a business for Dodik, the guy has stolen so much shit from his own people its ludicrous. Do you believe he actually cares for it? The guy knows what will become of such a entity. Nothing at all, it will remain in BiH until it collapses naturally or by foreign influence. Serbs have forced our people to convert to Christianity alongside Hungarians way long before any Turk stepped into Bosnia. The Bosnian Churches most ranked assignments was to spread the faith. No matter what the consequence. Off course that history is ignored and removed from recognition by certain Serbs. Stop acting like we didn't invite you to drink with us and enjoy our cities during the time of Yugoslavia. We used to be better brothers then any Russians, Turks, Greeks, you name it. Then those same brothers fired bullets at one another when the ideas of fabricating Yugoslavia into Great Serbia popped up. We wanted independence from Yugoslavia because it ordained to end our presence. Serbs off course had everything they desired and it was just right for them. Do not accuse Croats, Slovenian and Bosnians of treachery and that nonsense. The Genocide State was proclaimed in 92. It was accepted in Yugoslavia. It was created taking Serbian dominated Areas. And then the genocides occurred to keep it just that, Serb dominated. It's function required the blood of Croats and Bosniaks. Today, the territory would have a larger Muslim and Croat population hadn't it been because of it. The genocide State is recognized as an entity today because of their sins, the recognition of the region by Yugoslavia wouldn't mean anything today.

aslanlar
02-18-2008, 11:35 PM
Hoorah for Kosovo (ahem, soon to be Albanian territory)!!!!!!!

Can i get an Amen! :star:

Almir11
02-18-2008, 11:35 PM
Amen !!!!!!!

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 11:38 PM
Dodik, who has threatened a referendum on secession, said on Monday it would be "difficult to explain to people why the Kosovo principle cannot apply" in the Serb Republic's case.




Tell them Dodik you swine. Tell your people the truth for once. They at least deserve that if anything.

DelijaZauvjek
02-18-2008, 11:39 PM
Hoorah for Kosovo (ahem, soon to be Albanian territory)!!!!!!!

Can i get an Amen! :star:

AMEN...
HAHA

Hoorah for Republika Srpska(ahem, soon to be Serbian territory)!!!!!!

Can i get an Amen! :star:

Pape
02-18-2008, 11:39 PM
First, read this.

Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina Population Breakdown

1991 - Pre War
In 1991, the population of the territory of present-day Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina numbered 2,757,888 inhabitants, including:

Bosniaks = 1,436,498 (52.1%)
Croats = 610,458 (22.1%)
Serbs = 485,933 (17.6%)
others = 224,999 (8.2%)

1996 - Post War
In 1996, the population of Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina numbered 2,444,665 inhabitants, including:

Bosniaks = 1,773,566 (72.5%)
Croats = 556,289 (22.8%)
Serbs = 56,618 (2.3%)
others = 58,192 (2.4%)

-----------------------------------------
Republika Srpska Population Breakdown

1991 - Pre War
According to the 1991 census of BiH, the population of present-day territory of Republika Srpska numbered 1,619,165 inhabitants, including: [13]

Serbs = 880,171 (54.4%)
Bosnian Muslims/Bosniaks = 466,458 (28.8%)
Croats = 150,414 (9.3%)
others = 122,122 (7.5%)



1996 - Post War
In 1996, the population of Republika Srpska numbered 1,475,288 inhabitants, including:

Serbs = 1,427,912 (96.8%)
Bosniaks = 32,344 (2.2%)
Croats = 15,028 (1.0%)
others = 4 (0.0%)

Second, quit pulling history out of your ass. If you wanted out of Yugoslavia what is the point off making a smaller version off it and forcing half of its people to live under your way? Most of the Orthodox Monastaries have been IN Bosnia before a single Turk stepped in the region and pissed Turk on you. And go back again and analyze those number before you say anymore garbage.

aslanlar
02-18-2008, 11:39 PM
. Serbs have forced our people to convert to Christianity alongside Hungarians way long before any Turk stepped into Bosnia. The Bosnian Churches most ranked assignments was to spread the faith. No matter what the consequence. Off course that history is ignored and removed from recognition by certain Serbs. .

Great post ;) Read and learn

Pape
02-18-2008, 11:41 PM
I'm guessing you were Muslims before the Turks came ahahahahah :lol:

nb-legenda
02-18-2008, 11:43 PM
@Delija, lol Serbian army would lose to Andorra at this time. How much time did it take Milosevic to set up an army to invade Bosnia... like 5 years?? wahahha! and how many people like 8,000,000? And then Croatia on your side for some time? lol Bosnia would piss on you if you guys declared war on us today. You guys hardly have any volunteers on your army and you guys have twice the population :lol:

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 11:44 PM
Why are you mujos now talking about Vojvodina? am I missing something here or are you all retards? Vojvodina is a Serbian Radical party stronghold and the most nationalistic part of Serbia. Please do not comment on something that you know shit all about.

You are all worried and you sould be becasue soon RS will be free. (im a poet and I didnt even know it:D)

Mujos huh? That just exemplifies what kinda individual you are. Whats funny is that you are claiming we are worried when it was you who started this genocide State discussion. :lol: Call for independence Genocide State! Please do! Dodik has told you that no such thing is possible. Do not ignore the facts. :boo: The truth has been presented to you all. Genocide State is to stay within our borders.

Bosnian Unit
02-18-2008, 11:45 PM
Damn i wasent here for 20 hours, but you guys where active on this big time :D. I was not able to read all comments, too much mostly nonsese by Serbs :lol:.

But hey, i just figured out something !

EUROVISION: BELGRADE 2008 !

Reporter : Big hello to Belgrade from Kosovo capital Pristina (:lol:)

Montenegro 8 points
Croatia 9 points
Bosnia & Herzegovina 10 points
Macedonia 11 points
and......and Albania 12 points :lol:

DelijaZauvjek
02-18-2008, 11:45 PM
^^^^^^^
Lol Nermin I laugh at what your uneducated father tells you and the lies he spreads...
We invaded Bosnia in less than a week.. We controlled the whole territory and then we got bombed by U.S
If it wasn't for them you guys would be Christians now...

loL@ Croatia was on our side for some time... lmao
What are you stupid? Go learn your history..

WW2: Croats killed 1 million Serbs while we were fighting the Germans...Those 1 million Serbs were women and Children and old people... They were giving the Germans flowers when they invaded Yugoslavia...

nb-legenda
02-18-2008, 11:46 PM
to Serbians, your government is going to ruin you, mark my words. you're going to make more enemies in a month than you ever had. if you're lucky, you're going to still have the land you have now.

nb-legenda
02-18-2008, 11:47 PM
^^^^^^^
Lol Nermin I laugh at what your uneducated father tells you and the lies he spreads...
We invaded Bosnia in less than a week.. We controlled the whole territory and then we got bombed by U.S
If it wasn't for them you guys would be Christians now...

loL@ Croatia was on our side for some time... lmao
What are you stupid? Go learn your history..

WW2: Croats killed 1 million Serbs while we were fighting the Germans...Those 1 million Serbs were women and Children and old people... They were giving the Germans flowers when they invaded Yugoslavia...

no Croatians joined you in the genocide of Muslims... but they betrayed you soon after.

DelijaZauvjek
02-18-2008, 11:47 PM
^^^^^ lol
Stop please!!! You are hilarious...

Milos_
02-18-2008, 11:48 PM
Most of the Orthodox Monastaries have been IN Bosnia before a single Turk stepped in the region and pissed Turk on you.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol: quote of the year:thumbsup:

Saraj Fanático
02-18-2008, 11:56 PM
First, read this.



Second, quit pulling history out of your ass. If you wanted out of Yugoslavia what is the point off making a smaller version off it and forcing half of its people to live under your way? Most of the Orthodox Monastaries have been IN Bosnia before a single Turk stepped in the region and pissed Turk on you. And go back again and analyze those number before you say anymore garbage.

And what did you conclude with that break down? You just proved me correct. In that break down is shows you Bosniak populations in the Genocide State dropping incredibly in the post-war period. Its all because of the genocide and rest because of surviving refugees, those people had no place to flee anyways. And in the federation as I explained before, Serbs fled to avoid living within a territory controlled and governed by the Federation itself. Half of the people to live under who's way!?? Muslim way!?? What are you even talking about? The federation was controlled by the Government of BOSNIA AND HERZEGOVINA. Not by the GOVERNMENT OF BOSNIAKS. Today the most credited and appreciated man of the Federation isn't even a Bosniak. You Serbs always complain of us forcing you to live under some Sharia rule or whatever your propaganda teaches you. As I have explained, we rejected Alija before who was in favor of such things before he changed direction. A prime example of your BS accusations backfiring. We are aware of Christianity in Bosnia, yet we are also aware of the fact that Bogomilism had long clashes with the concepts of Christianity, leading to persecution. Those Bogomil populations were expelled from social unity. All of them converted from their previous beliefs after the Ottoman marched in.

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 12:00 AM
Yesterday's protest of Serbians in Belgrade, about 1.000 (reported by Serbian media) of them :lol:, that was sad becouse Belgrade is about 1.5 million population.

Burning flags, throwing rocks on USA,Slovenian embassy's......they looked like Pakistan few weeks ago :D! Well, Pakistanis where at least able to get more people to protest !

Talking about Serbian power and pride, 1.000 people protesting while the Heart of Serbia (as they call Kosovo) is breaking away !

Im just interested where/what will ''koljevka Srpstva'' be now ?

Pape
02-19-2008, 12:04 AM
Maybe you don't realize we've been through this Kosovo situation for the last 10 years and will continue to be. For most off us a Kosovo country does not exist and is not recognized and won't be by Russia, China, Spain, Romania and many other countries throughout this world.

Pr0s
02-19-2008, 12:04 AM
I think some of you need to go back and study the history of yugoslavia and why where how things happened, thus many of the questions that are asked will be answered.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6980751398015745064&q=the+death+of+yugoslavia&total=99&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=2

there are 3 parts, thats part 1

nb-legenda
02-19-2008, 12:07 AM
"For most off us a Kosovo country does not exist and is not recognized and won't be by Russia, China, Spain, Romania and many other countries throughout this world." -Pape
---------------

Yeah, but USA and almost the whole European union is by Kosovo.

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 12:12 AM
Let me give you one example of the expelsion of Bogomilism during that period. Are any of you Serbs familiar with Stefan Nemanja perhaps? Do you not believe me when i say Bogomilism existed? You not believe me when i say they were persecuted? Your in for a surprise.

First off learn anout the rule of Stefan Nemanja. He was a leader devoted to the Serbian Orthodox church and was crowned by the pope himself. He stopped a number of conquests by others and most successfully the Macedonians by actually assassinating their king. This can very easily imply that he was one of your greatest religious leaders of your history.


"During the Byzantine occupation in the 12th century savage purges were carried out against the Bogomil heresy, and large scale indiscriminate bookburnings took place, to the degree that no Serbian manuscripts survive from before this period. The Catholic Church also attacked the Bogomils, returning Bosnia to the fold....."

"The Bogomils spread westwards and settled first in Serbia; but at the end of the 12th century Stefan Nemanja, king of Serbia, burned them, persecuted them and expelled them from the country. Large numbers took refuge in Bosnia, where they were known under the name of Patarenes or Patareni. There, they were also brought into connection with the indigenous Bosnian Church, which was also considered heretical by the Pope and Byzantines, but was not actually Bogomil in nature. From Bosnia, their influence extended into Italy (Piedmont). The Hungarians undertook many crusades against the heretics in Bosnia, but towards the close of the 15th century, the conquest of that country by the Turks put an end to their persecution."



How much more do you want?


Do not try to discuss things when your knowledge is limited. Please don't even think about it.

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 12:13 AM
Slovenia is saying to its people not to go to Serbia, since they burned Slovenian flags and broke doors, throw rocks on Slovenian embassy in Belgrade.

nb-legenda
02-19-2008, 12:15 AM
Why they attacking on Slovenia now?? lol

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 12:17 AM
I heard they attacked a bunch of McDonald's fast food restaurants. Co'mon what did Ronald Mcdonald ever do to Serbia?

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 12:23 AM
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/2128/milionerxj0.gif

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 12:25 AM
^^^ahhahaha wow nice picture there

poutismalakas
02-19-2008, 12:27 AM
AS I said don't cry when RS tries the same thing as Kosovo and suceeds in getting independence?!

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 12:29 AM
Let me give you one example of the expelsion of Bogomilism during that period. Are any of you Serbs familiar with Stefan Nemanja perhaps? Do you not believe me when i say Bogomilism existed? You not believe me when i say they were persecuted? Your in for a surprise.

First off learn anout the rule of Stefan Nemanja. He was a leader devoted to the Serbian Orthodox church and was crowned by the pope himself. He stopped a number of conquests by others and most successfully the Macedonians by actually assassinating their king. This can very easily imply that he was one of your greatest religious leaders of your history.


"During the Byzantine occupation in the 12th century savage purges were carried out against the Bogomil heresy, and large scale indiscriminate bookburnings took place, to the degree that no Serbian manuscripts survive from before this period. The Catholic Church also attacked the Bogomils, returning Bosnia to the fold....."

"The Bogomils spread westwards and settled first in Serbia; but at the end of the 12th century Stefan Nemanja, king of Serbia, burned them, persecuted them and expelled them from the country. Large numbers took refuge in Bosnia, where they were known under the name of Patarenes or Patareni. There, they were also brought into connection with the indigenous Bosnian Church, which was also considered heretical by the Pope and Byzantines, but was not actually Bogomil in nature. From Bosnia, their influence extended into Italy (Piedmont). The Hungarians undertook many crusades against the heretics in Bosnia, but towards the close of the 15th century, the conquest of that country by the Turks put an end to their persecution."



How much more do you want?


Do not try to discuss things when your knowledge is limited. Please don't even think about it.i think that will shut them up!!:lol:

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 12:30 AM
I am not celebrating Kosovo independence. They aren't my people. I dunno why some people are so glad about this. I think Kosovo will be having trouble as an independent state quite frankly. But I really do not care about that place at all, for all I care they can join Montenegro. Kosovars mean nothing to me at all.

13Ballack13
02-19-2008, 12:30 AM
i doubt that the RS will get the independence because it will be denied from dem..

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 12:33 AM
AS I said don't cry when RS tries the same thing as Kosovo and suceeds in getting independence?!
dude stop reapeating everything you said already once...the main guy of RS said it him self that the RS is not in the same situation as kosovo was so they can declare independence..i think this was already cleared up once

Centarfor9
02-19-2008, 12:42 AM
there were protests in Banja Luka

group around 100 people got together yelled chetnik racist chants and obscenities while throwing stones at buildings with French, German and some other flags

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 12:44 AM
Whatever I am off to bed. Got a big day ahead of me as they say. Good night and whatever awaits tomorrow. I just want to leave today with my final comment on this. I am not here to celebrate with any Albanians since I care for them as much as I care for Mongols. Today we had these arguments simply because I was pushed to defend my own people. I have nothing against Serbs here but I do have a lot to say to those who want to see this imaginary split in BiH occur because Serbia is having problems. Do I care about Serbia and Kosovo? Not one bit, its not my people or place of home. But i do wish you all the best luck, to both groups.

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 12:47 AM
^^I respect people like this guy right there

poutismalakas
02-19-2008, 01:09 AM
dude stop reapeating everything you said already once...the main guy of RS said it him self that the RS is not in the same situation as kosovo was so they can declare independence..i think this was already cleared up once

The reason Im saying that is because Kosovo got independance because Bush threw a bone to appease people for Iraq! Once he is gone and Where out of Iraq I see RS trying to pull the same stuff! In 10 years RS will try to cecede

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 01:12 AM
there were protests in Banja Luka

group around 100 people got together yelled chetnik racist chants and obscenities while throwing stones at buildings with French, German and some other flags

Bosnian flag :sad:

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 01:24 AM
The reason Im saying that is because Kosovo got independance because Bush threw a bone to appease people for Iraq! Once he is gone and Where out of Iraq I see RS trying to pull the same stuff! In 10 years RS will try to cecede

Not possible.........what example that would be to us, and everyone else.

Kill and force out, become a majority and proclaim independence !

By the way, Kosovo and rs are not the same thing, not even close.

History repeats........this was Serbia in the past, it will most likely be like this in future !

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/13/Serbia,_Montenegro_and_Bosnia_1897.jpg

nb-legenda
02-19-2008, 01:53 AM
lol watch them be left with only Central Serbia. Vojvodina might leave if this continues.

13Ballack13
02-19-2008, 02:00 AM
haha just one question since im not very good with politics who would have control on Srebenica? since it is right next to the Serbian boarder

FK SARAJEVO
02-19-2008, 03:31 AM
haha just one question since im not very good with politics who would have control on Srebenica? since it is right next to the Serbian boarder

this will not be an issue. Srebrenica is the reason RS will never be autonomous or independent. It is also the reason why everyone is shitting on Serbia today. ICJ established RS was created by genocide so no one will accept it as a state.

i know serbs today are not responsible for the massacres but they are paying for what thier fathers and grandfathers did.

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 03:49 AM
The reason Im saying that is because Kosovo got independance because Bush threw a bone to appease people for Iraq! Once he is gone and Where out of Iraq I see RS trying to pull the same stuff! In 10 years RS will try to cecede
10 years:lol: ahahah in the next 5 years there isnt going to be an RS, bosnia is going to be a part of the European Union..and RS is getting abolished

DelijaZauvjek
02-19-2008, 04:03 AM
Not possible.........what example that would be to us, and everyone else.

Kill and force out, become a majority and proclaim independence !

By the way, Kosovo and rs are not the same thing, not even close.

History repeats........this was Serbia in the past, it will most likely be like this in future !

http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/1/13/Serbia,_Montenegro_and_Bosnia_1897.jpg



No actualy this was Serbia in the past....
Dusan's Empire:
History will repeat itself and Serbia will rise one day!!!! Mark my words..
The purple is Serbia

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/boyan69/220px-Dusanova_Srbija200.jpg

DelijaZauvjek
02-19-2008, 04:11 AM
Hey is it just me or do you guys find it funny that America is fighting wars against Muslims, but they decide to help Kosovo get independence, which is a Muslim nation???
haha
one day they say kill all Muslims..The next they say help them out..
loool =D
SRBIJA DO TOKIJA!

DelijaZauvjek
02-19-2008, 04:21 AM
Serbs...will Polverize us...in...1 week? :lol::lol::lol::lol: You didn't "polverize" us in 3 years. Your pathetic excuse of an Army got rocked so hard that the US had to step in just to avoid Banja Luka becoming a dumpster. Read a bit about Operation Sana and what it would have meant for the Genocide State. You have a history of celebrating defeats so you go into war on a intention of getting spanked. The Turks ripping you apart in Kosovo is a good example. :lol: Serbs had a chance to actually get rid of us all, we had nothing, and you had it all. And for you to still not walk away with anything but a doomed Genocide Entity to the East is miserable for those conditions. I would be embarrassed even talking about my fellow countryman actually going to another war if I were you. Also, your idea of persecuting Muslims just goes to show what kind of person you are while nobody here is talking about forcing Serbs to flee.

Majmune, gdje nam je bila SAD za 3 godine kad ste nas klali? A sad je ispalo da je SAD nas branila za taj period? Daj majketi idi lezi. Nemas blage veze.


Well well...You obviously don't know who Arkan was..
His army probably killed your relatives and friends...
Boo-hoo cry me a ***king river...Thats what war is..If you stupid Bosnian's can't get over that then you have no future...
Yes buddy we controlled all of Bosnia in less than 1 week..
The only thing that kept us from winning the war was the NATO bombings...
If you really think you were stronger than us than you are just as ignorant as the rest of the Bosnians... B.T.W You guys committed genocide as well..but NATO protected you guys...

-Vozdra-
02-19-2008, 04:24 AM
DelijaZauvjek. You should limit the amount of times you post in this thread. You arent making yourself look very smart.

REPUBLIKA SRPSKA OURS!!!!!!!
Whats the difference between Kosovo and RS?
none...


That is a perfect example.

Serbia will not grow bigger. It can only get smaller. RS and Kosovo are no where near the same as it has been explained before.

Srbija ko nokia. Sve manja i manja.

poutismalakas
02-19-2008, 05:15 PM
Hey is it just me or do you guys find it funny that America is fighting wars against Muslims, but they decide to help Kosovo get independence, which is a Muslim nation???
haha
one day they say kill all Muslims..The next they say help them out..
loool =D
SRBIJA DO TOKIJA!

Correction the US isn't wagin a war against Muslims They are taking resources it needs!!! They are thorwing a bone to the Muslims! If the people living in the MID East where buddists Tibet would be free!

FR Sloboda
02-19-2008, 05:22 PM
Hey man Bosnians were Bogomil sect of Chrisitans - described as heretics by the pope as we belived that christ was the messiah of God and not the son of god.

also we were agianst church paintings of saints and days to worship patron saints.

also the orthodox Dusan - facist king of Serbia hated the Bogomils and wanted to kill us.

But we bosnjaks live on and we will one day fight a long and hard war with Serbs to centralize our country and give blessings to our freinds in America and Nato.

Pape
02-19-2008, 06:19 PM
Serbia in 814 AD
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/76/Europe_814.jpg/761px-Europe_814.jpg
If you claim you are Bogomil, Bogomil's emerged in Bulgaria in early 900's and not until a hundred years later did any Bogomils step into the what is today the Serbia and Bosnia region :lol: :lol: Thats 200 years after that map of Serbia that includes all off Bosnia :lol:

On to the next theory, this is about the 100th one I have heard from you guys avoiding to be called Serbs :lol:

Mirko Ganic
02-19-2008, 06:33 PM
Hey is it just me or do you guys find it funny that America is fighting wars against Muslims, but they decide to help Kosovo get independence, which is a Muslim nation???
haha
one day they say kill all Muslims..The next they say help them out..
loool =D
SRBIJA DO TOKIJA!

Yes, America is fighting wars against Muslims and they are close to nominating a Muslim in Obama as a presidential nominee. I can't work them out. Also, I believe many countries worldwide see Kosovo as an illegal occupation of Serbia so I doubt it will ever be peaceful there. I just hope the Albanians do not harm any Bosnians still there. :worried:

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 07:12 PM
Well well...You obviously don't know who Arkan was..
His army probably killed your relatives and friends...
Boo-hoo cry me a ***king river...Thats what war is..If you stupid Bosnian's can't get over that then you have no future...
Yes buddy we controlled all of Bosnia in less than 1 week..
The only thing that kept us from winning the war was the NATO bombings...
If you really think you were stronger than us than you are just as ignorant as the rest of the Bosnians... B.T.W You guys committed genocide as well..but NATO protected you guys...

Why, you think it would be a good thing if he actually did kill my relatives? Why would you even say something that stupid? You know I have every right to insult you like that also but I am not like you, who seems glad of genocide. Do not tell us to get over anything please, correct me if I am wrong but isn't it you who is bitching over Kosovo and so fired up that you want land from BiH? Wow you have really made yourself look smart there.

:lol: "The only thing that kept us from winning the war was Nato bombings". I think you have embarrassed every Serb with that comment here. First off acknowledge that Nato didn't move a finger against Mladic until 95 when they enforced the pact. get your facts straight. Also the first Nato strike against Serb's wasn't even on ground troops but it was when a Nato Warplane shot down a JNA Aircraft because it violated the UN No-fly zone. Second, the United Nations Security Council actually set up an Arm Embargo on all Yugoslavian nations. However this hurt us only because Serbs had weaponry as it is from the JNA and Croats were easy to smuggle in weapons because of its coast. So Europe made your job easier, not harder you uneducated child. Nato didn't drop a single bomb on you until the Genocide State Army bite the big one at the end. So where was your victory for those 3 plus years of fighting against a people with no support? Not only that but we fought against another enemy, the Croats to the South, that is until we signed the Washington Agreement. Then we eventually developed a Military and made a pact with the Croats to the West, we would help them liberate Krajina from Serbs and they would repay us the favor. The attack worked and it became known as Oluja. Atif Dudakovic then decided to end the Genocide State and kicked off Operation Sana. This operation put an end to the war and embarrassed Mladic, Karadzic and the rest of the Spice girls band. The operation started and Sanski Most was taken from the Bosnian Serbs, the next city to go was Prijedor which would serve as a second position along with Sanski Most to recapture Banja luka and bye bye Genocide State. BUT! The Dayton Agreement restricted ArBih from doing so. Europe ended the war then because that would have ended it all. They saved the genocide State and saved Serbs, no no not Serbs but Cetniks, more then they saved us. You should be weaving Nato and UN flags, its not their fault you aren't a Army.

Don't believe me yet? The whole thing was taped. See for yourself the operation which ended the war. Nato didn't do shit until when Mladic refused the Dayton Agreement and his force was wiped out at the end for still trying to continue on. Here are 2 parts, of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7994693782385262137&q=BOSNIA-BOSNA-SANSKI+MOST.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5113770709875422630&q=BOSNIA-BOSNA-SANSKI+MOST.htm


Oh and there is nice footage of Arkans former post abandoned as Dudakovic came in. He didn't even finish his breakfast! :lol::lol::lol::lol: He along with his pathetic Tigers fled. Through the whole video you will see how the brave Genocide State fighters fled leaving behind even AFVs! That Video will show you how proud our Army actually was, how Ethnic Bosniaks, Serbs, and Croats fought together for BiH. This isn't a Muslim thing and get that through your little brain already!

Pape
02-19-2008, 07:48 PM
Yeah my dad was a Serb forced like every other man living in the Federation to go into the BiH Army or any man in Republika Srpska forced to join their army. Granted he didn't want to fight for anything or anybody they still made him go of course so he can be considered a Serb in the BiH army fighting for the freedom of BiH :lol::lol::lol: I know all so many stories about how both sides were all so excited to go and die on the front lines :lol:

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 08:34 PM
Yeah my dad was a Serb forced like every other man living in the Federation to go into the BiH Army or any man in Republika Srpska forced to join their army. Granted he didn't want to fight for anything or anybody they still made him go of course so he can be considered a Serb in the BiH army fighting for the freedom of BiH :lol::lol::lol: I know all so many stories about how both sides were all so excited to go and die on the front lines :lol:

If anything its more wise to fight for something then die for nothing.

nb-legenda
02-19-2008, 09:37 PM
Hey is it just me or do you guys find it funny that America is fighting wars against Muslims, but they decide to help Kosovo get independence, which is a Muslim nation???
haha
one day they say kill all Muslims..The next they say help them out..
loool =D
SRBIJA DO TOKIJA!

:lol: this kid cracks me up... one post after another...

Srbija ko Nokia, sve manje i manje (thanks Vozdra for this my friend :lol:)

FR Sloboda
02-19-2008, 10:11 PM
Hey man Arkan was a little school kid

Him and his crvene beretke buddies Legija, Frankie and Kapetan Dragan could not even defend majevica mountain in 1992 Against poorly armed Tuzla 2 korpus which was made up of Seljaci from The Majevica mountain range.

Serbs only had luck becuase they were better armed with better weapons and you guys had Mig-21, J-22, G-4 galebs and Gazzale attack helicopters and still could not take Majevica and Sarajevo.

you guys could only kill civilians and women thats how crap your fighters are!


oh and by the way on google video there is a nice video of Dudakovic's 5th korpus from Buzim kicking Arkanovci i seseljovci asses in Sanski most and Arkan ran away like a little girl.

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 10:13 PM
^ yes I already gave the link to Delija to see for himself in my post about his 'Nato saved you' statements. In war, you can be armed to the teeth, but if you do not have heart and bravery you are worthless.

nb-legenda
02-19-2008, 10:16 PM
Serbians in the war were cowards. Hardly any empire in the past or country has come so far as to kill civillians like women, old men, and babies. That was a huge action of disgrace to humans

FR Sloboda
02-19-2008, 10:28 PM
Yeah but those Cetniks still lost and only were lucky that the dayton accords were signed in dec 95 so that they could make Geno - entity.

Ps: Banja Luka was shittin itself in nov 95 when Dudakovic was chasing Arkanovci.

Saraj Fanático
02-19-2008, 10:32 PM
The Dayton Agreement is the biggest aspect corrupting the nation today. I would have rather seen Dudakovic finish the Operation and unite the nation. They should bow down to Europe for granting them what they did.

Pape
02-19-2008, 10:46 PM
Serbians in the war were cowards. Hardly any empire in the past or country has come so far as to kill civillians like women, old men, and babies. That was a huge action of disgrace to humans

Huuuh? :mad2: you killed 800,000 Serb kids, children, grandmother, anything Serb in concentration camps with your ***king Nazis mother ***ker in a span of 4 years, you are 14 go get educated before you open you mouth stupid little shit

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 10:53 PM
No actualy this was Serbia in the past....
Dusan's Empire:
History will repeat itself and Serbia will rise one day!!!! Mark my words..
The purple is Serbia

http://i38.photobucket.com/albums/e101/boyan69/220px-Dusanova_Srbija200.jpg


:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Even Greece is Serbia there :smoking:

I dont know how will Greeks swallow this as their brothers are turning on them :D!

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 10:57 PM
Hey is it just me or do you guys find it funny that America is fighting wars against Muslims, but they decide to help Kosovo get independence, which is a Muslim nation???
haha
one day they say kill all Muslims..The next they say help them out..
loool =D
SRBIJA DO TOKIJA!

Srbija ko Nokija, svaka verzija sve manja i manja :lol:

Seriously, Serbs see Serbia farest as Tokyo in the future :D, wow that is hell of a ambition !

Bosnian Unit
02-19-2008, 11:00 PM
Huuuh? :mad2: you killed 800,000 Serb kids, children, grandmother, anything Serb in concentration camps with your ***king Nazis mother ***ker in a span of 4 years, you are 14 go get educated before you open you mouth stupid little shit

Are moderators able to use this kind of language ? Can they be warned or anything, SFN should ask themselfs what kind of people they aloud to be moderators here, its really sad:boo:.

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 11:07 PM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b92/kosurge11/Slike/Dusanova_Srbija200.jpgas you can still see that is bosnia in the red..which still most of that land today is bosnia

DelijaZauvjek
02-19-2008, 11:20 PM
Hey man Arkan was a little school kid

Him and his crvene beretke buddies Legija, Frankie and Kapetan Dragan could not even defend majevica mountain in 1992 Against poorly armed Tuzla 2 korpus which was made up of Seljaci from The Majevica mountain range.

Serbs only had luck becuase they were better armed with better weapons and you guys had Mig-21, J-22, G-4 galebs and Gazzale attack helicopters and still could not take Majevica and Sarajevo.

you guys could only kill civilians and women thats how crap your fighters are!


oh and by the way on google video there is a nice video of Dudakovic's 5th korpus from Buzim kicking Arkanovci i seseljovci asses in Sanski most and Arkan ran away like a little girl.


Arkan: http://youtube.com/watch?v=ndkVMydCTHk

Serbian Army Today and Special Forces
http://youtube.com/watch?v=4DYOo6dqucw

http://youtube.com/watch?v=XTx7MTD3pho&feature=related

Almir11
02-19-2008, 11:37 PM
Huuuh? :mad2: you killed 800,000 Serb kids, children, grandmother, anything Serb in concentration camps with your ***king Nazis mother ***ker in a span of 4 years, you are 14 go get educated before you open you mouth stupid little shit

***k u u little ***king bitch u think thats bad have u ever ***king seen what serbs did ***k u ur so stupid serbs did stuff way worse and 5 bucks says nermin knows more then u......so shut ur ***king mouth and ur a mod u dipshit your not suppose to talk like that everyone clap for pape for be a romodel (sarcasm) !!!

1bosnian
02-19-2008, 11:52 PM
When the Romans extended their conquests into the territory of modern Bosnia during the 2nd and 1st centuries BC, the people they encountered there belonged mainly to Illyrian tribes. Most of the area of modern Bosnia was incorporated into the Roman province of Dalmatia. During the 4th and 5th centuries AD, Roman armies suffered heavy defeats in this region at the hands of invading Goths. When the Goths were eventually driven out of the Balkans by the Byzantine emperor Justinian I in the early 6th century, the Bosnian territory became, notionally at least, part of the Byzantine Empire.


Slavs began to settle in this territory during the 6th century. A second wave of Slavs in the 7th century included two powerful tribes, the Croats and the Serbs; Croats probably covered most of central, western, and northern Bosnia, while Serbs extended into the Drina River valley and modern Herzegovina. (The terms “Serb” and “Croat” were, in this period, tribal labels; they were subsequently used to refer to the inhabitants of Serbian or Croatian political entities and only later acquired the connotations of ethnic or national identity in the modern sense.) <<<bosnia and bosnians has been in the balkans way before serbian and croatian ppl..but its just has been occupied by some other empires

DelijaZauvjek
02-19-2008, 11:53 PM
Bosnia11...does that number mean your age?? Because you are acting like an 11 year old...
F this F that..Just shows the limits to your vocabulary..

DelijaZauvjek
02-19-2008, 11:55 PM
:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Even Greece is Serbia there :smoking:

I dont know how will Greeks swallow this as their brothers are turning on them :D!

The Greeks were weak at that time and they decided to make an empire with the Serbs..but the Empire was going to be called Serbia since we were the more dominant one...We were allies and always will be..

DelijaZauvjek
02-20-2008, 12:01 AM
Why, you think it would be a good thing if he actually did kill my relatives? Why would you even say something that stupid? You know I have every right to insult you like that also but I am not like you, who seems glad of genocide. Do not tell us to get over anything please, correct me if I am wrong but isn't it you who is bitching over Kosovo and so fired up that you want land from BiH? Wow you have really made yourself look smart there.

:lol: "The only thing that kept us from winning the war was Nato bombings". I think you have embarrassed every Serb with that comment here. First off acknowledge that Nato didn't move a finger against Mladic until 95 when they enforced the pact. get your facts straight. Also the first Nato strike against Serb's wasn't even on ground troops but it was when a Nato Warplane shot down a JNA Aircraft because it violated the UN No-fly zone. Second, the United Nations Security Council actually set up an Arm Embargo on all Yugoslavian nations. However this hurt us only because Serbs had weaponry as it is from the JNA and Croats were easy to smuggle in weapons because of its coast. So Europe made your job easier, not harder you uneducated child. Nato didn't drop a single bomb on you until the Genocide State Army bite the big one at the end. So where was your victory for those 3 plus years of fighting against a people with no support? Not only that but we fought against another enemy, the Croats to the South, that is until we signed the Washington Agreement. Then we eventually developed a Military and made a pact with the Croats to the West, we would help them liberate Krajina from Serbs and they would repay us the favor. The attack worked and it became known as Oluja. Atif Dudakovic then decided to end the Genocide State and kicked off Operation Sana. This operation put an end to the war and embarrassed Mladic, Karadzic and the rest of the Spice girls band. The operation started and Sanski Most was taken from the Bosnian Serbs, the next city to go was Prijedor which would serve as a second position along with Sanski Most to recapture Banja luka and bye bye Genocide State. BUT! The Dayton Agreement restricted ArBih from doing so. Europe ended the war then because that would have ended it all. They saved the genocide State and saved Serbs, no no not Serbs but Cetniks, more then they saved us. You should be weaving Nato and UN flags, its not their fault you aren't a Army.

Don't believe me yet? The whole thing was taped. See for yourself the operation which ended the war. Nato didn't do shit until when Mladic refused the Dayton Agreement and his force was wiped out at the end for still trying to continue on. Here are 2 parts, of truth.
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7994693782385262137&q=BOSNIA-BOSNA-SANSKI+MOST.htm
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5113770709875422630&q=BOSNIA-BOSNA-SANSKI+MOST.htm


Oh and there is nice footage of Arkans former post abandoned as Dudakovic came in. He didn't even finish his breakfast! :lol::lol::lol::lol: He along with his pathetic Tigers fled. Through the whole video you will see how the brave Genocide State fighters fled leaving behind even AFVs! That Video will show you how proud our Army actually was, how Ethnic Bosniaks, Serbs, and Croats fought together for BiH. This isn't a Muslim thing and get that through your little brain already!


I'm not going to read all this shit..Waste of my time lol....
Write in shorter paragraphs or don't post to me at all thanks =D

Pape
02-20-2008, 12:03 AM
***k u u little ***king bitch u think thats bad have u ever ***king seen what serbs did ***k u ur so stupid serbs did stuff way worse and 5 bucks says nermin knows more then u......so shut ur ***king mouth and ur a mod u dipshit your not suppose to talk like that everyone clap for pape for be a romodel (sarcasm) !!!

Nermin and you probably both know more than me? :lol: I grew up in Zavidovici spending most of my life there and I seen your "heroes" selling a bag of flour for 1000 deutche marks while they were suppose to be giving them for free. Now Nermin has maybe just maybe visited BiH once thats it, and same could be for you but you know more than me :lol:.

1bosnian
02-20-2008, 12:07 AM
well nermin was born in germany now i dont know if he visited ever!!....i was born in BiH and actually went to school in bosnia for a few years...bosni11 were you born in bosnia or somewhere else?

Almir11
02-20-2008, 12:15 AM
well nermin was born in germany now i dont know if he visited ever!!....i was born in BiH and actually went to school in bosnia for a few years...bosni11 were you born in bosnia or somewhere else?

Born in Bosna and lived there till 4 years old but i got back to visit every summer!!!

Almir11
02-20-2008, 12:16 AM
Bosnia11...does that number mean your age?? Because you are acting like an 11 year old...
F this F that..Just shows the limits to your vocabulary..

hahahahaha no !!! i am 14 and plz shut up i act like a 11 year old what the ***k does that make you then !!!!

Almir11
02-20-2008, 12:16 AM
i wish i could meet delija in real life jsut to ***king kick his ass!!

1bosnian
02-20-2008, 12:21 AM
dude i thought you were a bit older than that!!..but its all good

Bosnian Unit
02-20-2008, 12:28 AM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/e/e9/Armija_BiH.png/416px-Armija_BiH.png

13Ballack13
02-20-2008, 12:30 AM
^^ prava slika :smoking::smoking:

Pape
02-20-2008, 12:31 AM
When the Romans extended their conquests into the territory of modern Bosnia during the 2nd and 1st centuries BC, the people they encountered there belonged mainly to Illyrian tribes. Most of the area of modern Bosnia was incorporated into the Roman province of Dalmatia. During the 4th and 5th centuries AD, Roman armies suffered heavy defeats in this region at the hands of invading Goths. When the Goths were eventually driven out of the Balkans by the Byzantine emperor Justinian I in the early 6th century, the Bosnian territory became, notionally at least, part of the Byzantine Empire.


Slavs began to settle in this territory during the 6th century. A second wave of Slavs in the 7th century included two powerful tribes, the Croats and the Serbs; Croats probably covered most of central, western, and northern Bosnia, while Serbs extended into the Drina River valley and modern Herzegovina. (The terms “Serb” and “Croat” were, in this period, tribal labels; they were subsequently used to refer to the inhabitants of Serbian or Croatian political entities and only later acquired the connotations of ethnic or national identity in the modern sense.) <<<bosnia and bosnians has been in the balkans way before serbian and croatian ppl..but its just has been occupied by some other empires


but you guys claim you are Bogomils or some shit like that, they were born in the 10th century in Bulgaria and if any first wave arrived it arrived in Bosnia in the late 11th, early 12th centuries, which would mean we settled Bosnia 500-600 years before you, but I'm just not buying it :lol:

and if you are Turks you arrived even 400 years later :lol:

1bosnian
02-20-2008, 12:49 AM
i am not talkin about religion and turks here i was talking about from when bosnia existed.....

Bosnian Unit
02-20-2008, 12:59 AM
http://www.vecernji.hr/system/galleries/pics/060526/srbija_nokia.jpg

1bosnian
02-20-2008, 01:07 AM
^lol the last one map of serbia on that pic is that how it is supposed to be with out vojvodina too? :lol:

nb-legenda
02-20-2008, 01:23 AM
Huuuh? :mad2: you killed 800,000 Serb kids, children, grandmother, anything Serb in concentration camps with your ***king Nazis mother ***ker in a span of 4 years, you are 14 go get educated before you open you mouth stupid little shit

And since when was I German :lol::lol::lol:

This kid cracks me up even more than Delija! Dude... I really hope you're 15 or younger, I'm scared for you!

I've visited Bosnia-Herzegovina 6 times. When I was in World Cup 2006 in Germany, I visited Sarajevo on the way to reunite with my family for a month together... before that I've been there 5 times before. I want to go there again and live there forever though.

lol you're supposed to be a moderator??

nb-legenda
02-20-2008, 01:24 AM
http://www.vecernji.hr/system/galleries/pics/060526/srbija_nokia.jpg

Kako je Milosevic razlavio usta, jebem mu mater :lol::lol::lol: may he rot in hell :evil:

13Ballack13
02-20-2008, 01:26 AM
milosevic je puno pametan uvjek misli zna sve dobro je da je popujo sirup da umre.. dobar je onaj rus sto je to uradijo

poutismalakas
02-20-2008, 01:31 AM
English!

Saraj Fanático
02-20-2008, 01:36 AM
I'm not going to read all this shit..Waste of my time lol....
Write in shorter paragraphs or don't post to me at all thanks =D

Um actually you should keep your little mouth shut when you aren't even old enough to read through what I typed and have enough guts to reply. Do not debate on shit you do not know. The video I posted just displays what a woman Arkan really is. And how pathetic it is celebrating him. I have seen ladies with more honor then his silly ass.

Saraj Fanático
02-20-2008, 01:55 AM
If you claim you are Bogomil, Bogomil's emerged in Bulgaria in early 900's and not until a hundred years later did any Bogomils step into the what is today the Serbia and Bosnia region :lol: :lol: Thats 200 years after that map of Serbia that includes all off Bosnia :lol:

On to the next theory, this is about the 100th one I have heard from you guys avoiding to be called Serbs :lol:

Pape, jarane, we did not come as Bogomils into the Balkans. Those Bogomils you speak of in Bulgaria have no connection whatsoever with us at that period of time. But when we moved in as Slavic invaders we were soon excluded from society and it was then when we soon came into contact with Bogomil tribes in the Mountainous ranges in Modern Day Bosnia. I never claimed we were the very first origin of the Bogomil peoples. We adopted Bogomilism way after we first settled in the Balkans. I do not convey to say that we were the origin of such people. We were attracted to them after the migration. There is no room for alteration of what I am saying. Its quite simple when you want it to be.

Pape
02-20-2008, 01:56 AM
And since when was I German :lol::lol::lol:


obviously you have no clue what I am talking about, at least go learn the history off this world in the last 70 years before you start talking about what happened 500-1200 years ago

nb-legenda
02-20-2008, 02:02 AM
obviously you have no clue what I am talking about, at least go learn the history off this world in the last 70 years before you start talking about what happened 500-1200 years ago

I'll do it! :)

up up and away!!!!

not...

DelijaZauvjek
02-20-2008, 03:04 AM
Um actually you should keep your little mouth shut when you aren't even old enough to read through what I typed and have enough guts to reply. Do not debate on shit you do not know. The video I posted just displays what a woman Arkan really is. And how pathetic it is celebrating him. I have seen ladies with more honor then his silly ass.

Arkan and his Tigers did not kill women and children and old people you idiot..
those were cetniks and uncontrolled armies...Arkan's men were only used where it was tough to get through...Then Slobo called Arkan and he cleared the path with his men....
The reason we celebrate him is because he fought for our country.......
You guys had guns too my friend...What were we suppose to just let you guys shoot us and kill us??? NO!
So stop complaining... It was war...Casualties are expected. Esp. since your sore asses wanted your own country casulties was the sacrafice you needed in order to get it..
Yes, Slobodan is an idiot and 99% of Serbians hate him because not only did he betray Yugoslavia but Serbia as well... He stole money from us and invested it in U.S.....and all kinds of other shit..
Arkan was not a war criminal because he was a very good General... He did not kill women and children..stop getting him mixed up with Cetniks.

nb-legenda
02-20-2008, 03:06 AM
whenever Cetniks ran out of ammo... they ran. even if it was 50 against 5 people. they always ran when they lost ammo. :lol: they even got a comedy show in Bosnian about it

Pape
02-20-2008, 03:13 AM
Delija you are bullshitting. Arkan was shit of a troubled mind with hate in his head and money on his mind. He is a big disgrace to the Serb people and he is even the reason why our football is filled with mafia today.

())__Green__))>
02-20-2008, 03:26 AM
delija.. that is the biggest sack of freaking piece of ***king shit hole garbage that i have ever heard in my life
arkan is the biggest COWARD in the world!
he kills children, women and innocent civilians but he runs like a girl with a tail in between his legs when bosnian army arrives and he even leaves his lunch behind.. coward
ohh yeah?? didnt kill children??
then why were his men video taping and witnessess saying it was his men that did it??
delija my friend.. i always thought you were cool
but if you are a fellow arkan believer, then you might as well believe in the devil as well and me and you wont be on good terms anymore because i do not dislike any race/religion.. but if you hate me.. ofcourse i will protect myself!

DelijaZauvjek
02-20-2008, 03:32 AM
I don't like Arkan.....
He was a most wanted person in 6 different countries and he ***ked up Serbia............
but I doubt he killed women and children buddy..
The fact is that everyone in Bosnia and Croatia feared Arkan..Stop trying to say they didn't..Because he never lost a battle against Bosnia... He had many of them.
The man was a strategist but he was sick in the head.. Anyways that is obsessed with Tigers is a little weird hahah
Dude you guys are such hypocrites..
Listen, if you guys had the military power we did, you would have been inside belgrade killing women and children, etc..But you didn't. You killed many Serbian women and children in Sarajevo

())__Green__))>
02-20-2008, 03:55 AM
^ first of all.. why would bosnia attack belgrade??
like if the war went on longer and we cleared bosnia.. we might have pushed for serbia.. but that would have been stupid if you ask me!
if you saw the video fc saraj showed you.. it proves they are not sick people to kill civilians.. the majority of serbian civilians killed were by mujahideen from arab countries
thats why most of them got deported or in jail!
so what do we have now.. a republika srpska that just causes more problems in the long run between bosniaks and serbs
common.. i want peace as much as the next guy, but you know that wont happen

Pape
02-20-2008, 05:10 AM
You live in BC he lives in California. You both have no idea wtf you are smoking, Bosnian Unit posted a poll from RS like a year ago that said 88% of the Serbs in Bosnia don't have a problem living with Bosniaks, vice versa. The situation between Serbs and Bosniaks is nothing like Serbs and Albanians...

DelijaZauvjek
02-20-2008, 07:24 AM
Here is a newspaper article that proves RS wants to unite with Serbia....
Here we go:


by Patrick J. Buchanan
When the Great War comes, said old Bismarck, it will come out of
*some damn fool thing in the Balkans.*
On June 28, 1914, Gavrilo Princip shot the archduke and heir to the
Austrian throne, Franz Ferdinand, in Sarajevo, setting in motion the
train of events that led to the first world war.
In the spring 1999, the United States bombed Serbia for 78 days to
force its army out of that nation*s cradle province of Kosovo. The
Serbs were fighting Albanian separatists of the Kosovo Liberation
Army,
or KLA. And we had no more right to bomb Belgrade than the Royal Navy
would have had to bombard New York in our Civil War.
We bombed Serbia, we were told, to stop the genocide in Kosovo. But
there was no genocide. This was propaganda. The United Nations*
final
casualty count of Serbs and Albanians in Slobodan Milosevic*s war
did
not add up to 1 percent of the dead in Mr. Lincoln*s war.
Albanians did flee in the tens of thousands during the war. But
since that war*s end, the Serbs of Kosovo have seen their churches
and
monasteries smashed and vandalized and have been ethnically cleansed
in
the scores of thousands from their ancestral province. In the exodus,
they have lost everything. The remaining Serb population of 120,000 is
largely confined to enclaves guarded by NATO troops.
*At a Serb monastery in Pec,* writes the Washington Post,
*Italian
troops protect the holy site, which is surrounded by a massive new
wall
to shield elderly nuns from stone-throwing and other abuse by passing
ethnic Albanians.*
On Sunday, Kosovo declared independence and was recognized by the
European Union and President Bush. But this is not the end of the
story. It is only the preface to a new history of the Balkans, a
region
that has known too much history.
By intervening in a civil war to aid the secession of an ancient
province, to create a new nation that has never before existed and, to
erect it along ethnic, religious and tribal lines, we have established
a dangerous precedent. Muslim and Albanian extremists are already
talking of a Greater Albania, consisting of Albania, Kosovo and the
Albanian-Muslim sectors of Serbia, Montenegro and Macedonia.
If these Albanian minorities should demand the right to secede and
join their kinsmen in Kosovo, on what grounds would we oppose them?
The
inviolability of borders? What if the Serb majority in the Mitrovica
region of northern Kosovo, who reject Albanian rule, secede and call
on
their kinsmen in Serbia to protect them?
Would we go to war against Serbia, once again, to maintain the
territorial integrity of Kosovo, after we played the lead role in
destroying the territorial integrity of Serbia?
Inside the U.S.-sponsored Federation of Bosnia and Herzegovina, the
autonomous Serb Republic of Srpska is already talking secession and
unification with Serbia. On what grounds would we deny them?
The U.S. war on Serbia was unconstitutional, unjust and unwise.
Congress never authorized it. Serbia, an ally in two world wars, had
never attacked us. We made an enemy of the Serbs, and alienated
Russia,
to create a second Muslim state in the Balkans.
By intervening in a civil war where no vital interest was at risk,
the United States, which is being denounced as loudly in Belgrade
today
as we are being cheered in Pristina, has acquired another dependency.
And our new allies, the KLA, have been credibly charged with human
trafficking, drug dealing, atrocities and terrorism.
And the clamor for ethnic self-rule has only begun to be heard.
Rumania has refused to recognize the new Republic of Kosovo, for the
best of reasons. Bucharest rules a large Hungarian minority in
Transylvania, acquired at the same Paris Peace Conference of 1919
where
Croatia, Slovenia and Bosnia-Herzegovina were detached from Vienna and
united with Serbia.
Abkhazia and South Ossetia, two provinces that have broken away from
Georgia, are invoking the Kosovo precedent to demand recognition as
independent nations. As our NATO expansionists are anxious to bring
Georgia into NATO, here is yet another occasion for a potential
Washington-Moscow clash.
Spain, too, opposed the severing of Kosovo from Serbia, as Madrid faces
similar demands from Basque and Catalan separatists.
The Muslim world will enthusiastically endorse the creation of a new
Muslim state in Europe at the expense of Orthodox Christian Serbs. But
Turkey is also likely to re-raise the issue as to why the EU and
United
States do not formally recognize the Turkish Republic of Northern
Cyprus. Like Kosovo, it, too, is an ethnically homogeneous community
that declared independence 25 years ago.
Breakaway Transneistria is seeking independence from Moldova, the
nation wedged between Rumania and Ukraine, and President Putin of
Russia has threatened to recognize it, Abkhazia and South Ossetia in
retaliation for the West*s recognition of Kosovo.
If Putin pauses, it will be because he recognizes that of all the
nations of Europe, Russia is high among those most threatened by the
serial Balkanization we may have just reignited in the Balkans.

Pape
02-20-2008, 01:13 PM
Finally a real article comming out of the west with good material.

Pape
02-20-2008, 01:24 PM
Palestinian aide suggests Kosovo a model
By MOHAMMED DARAGHMEH
Associated Press Writer


RAMALLAH, West Bank - The Palestinians should follow Kosovo's example and unilaterally declare independence if peace talks with Israel fail, a senior Palestinian official said Wednesday, but the Palestinian president said the proposal was premature and pledged to keep negotiating until the end of the year.

The mixed Palestinian messages came a day after the latest meeting between Palestinian President Mahmoud Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Olmert.

The two men formally relaunched peace talks at a U.S.-hosted summit in Annapolis, Md., last November. While the sides meet regularly, Palestinian officials have complained the talks are proceeding slowly and that President Bush's goal of brokering a peace treaty in 2008 is not realistic.

Yasser Abed Rabbo, a Palestinian negotiator and top aide to Abbas, said in an interview Wednesday that the peace efforts "are going nowhere."

He said the Palestinians' "first option" is success in the negotiations. "If this doesn't happen, we have another option," he said, noting Kosovo's declaration of independence from Serbia earlier this week.

"Kosovo is not better than Palestine," he added. "If the whole world, the United States, the European Union, the majority of its states, have embraced the independence of Kosovo, why shouldn't this happen with Palestine as well?"

Abed Rabbo said the Palestinian leadership is discussing the proposal. However, Abbas reacted coolly to the idea, saying in a statement that he remained committed to reaching a negotiated peace agreement this year.

"If we are unable to do that ... we will return to our Arab (brothers) to take the appropriate decision," he said.

The chief Palestinian negotiator, Ahmed Qureia, quickly quashed the idea of a unilateral decision and said such a proposal was never discussed by the Palestinian leadership.

"Decisions should be taken and then declared, and not be declared and then be taken," Qureia told The Associated Press, in apparent criticism of Abed Rabbo.

Qureia said the negotiations with Israel are serious and are touching on all major issues, but concurred with Abed Rabbo that no progress has been made so far.

Normally talkative Israeli and Palestinian officials have released few details on the status of their talks. Palestinian officials say the White House has urged the sides to maintain secrecy, fearing leaks could hurt progress.

Olmert also is wary of publicizing progress because a key coalition partner has threatened to pull out of the government if he makes any concessions on the issue of Jerusalem. If the ultra-Orthodox Shas party follows through on its threat, Olmert would lose his parliamentary majority.

The Palestinians have already declared independence before, in 1988, but the international community did not recognize the declaration. At that time, there was no territory under Palestinian control.

The Palestinians hope to establish an independent state in the West Bank, Gaza Strip and east Jerusalem — areas captured by Israel in the 1967 Mideast war.

Israel pulled out of Gaza in 2005, but maintains a large military presence and more than 100 Jewish settlements in the West Bank. Israel annexed east Jerusalem after the 1967 war and considers the entire city its undivided capital. Olmert has signaled a readiness for a large withdrawal from the West Bank and a pullback from parts of east Jerusalem under a final peace deal.

Israeli Foreign Ministry spokesman Arye Mekel rejected the notion of a unilateral declaration of independence.

"Our policy is that we believe that such matters should be resolved in agreement and not by unilateral steps," he said. "That's why we are negotiating now and trying to reach an agreement."

Abbas and Olmert met for two hours Tuesday, including for one hour without aides, said Israeli government spokesman Mark Regev. "Israel remains committed that all core issues are on the table," Regev said.

Israeli officials said the two sides agreed to set up professional teams on some of the technical issues, such as water, the environment and the economy.

Talks have been troubled by continued Israeli construction in areas the Palestinians have claimed for a future state. On Wednesday, the Peace Now organization, an anti-settlement group, reported that 27 new mobile homes were being assembled in the West Bank settlement of Eli.

Under the internationally endorsed "road map" peace plan, which is the basis of the renewed negotiations with the Palestinians, Israel is to cease all settlement activity.

Work is under way to link the mobile homes to utilities, even though there is no official approved blueprint for expanding Eli, Peace Now's settlement expert, Hagit Ofran, said.

"The situation on the ground is deteriorating," Palestinian negotiator Saeb Erekat told a news conference Wednesday.

He said Abbas and Olmert agreed Tuesday to begin working with a U.S. mediator in charge of investigating complaints about noncompliance with