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Saraj Fanatico
11-25-2007, 05:14 PM
Group 2:
Greece
Israel
Switzerland
Moldova
Latvia
Luxembourg
Thoughts? Are you happy with the draw your nation got? What will be the exciting match up in this one? What are your teams chances of making it? Share your thoughts!
PAO_HELLAS
11-25-2007, 05:21 PM
I can say I am satisfised with the draw my nation got, most of the other groups are tougher. However as I said Israel and Switzerland are decent teams we must not underestimate. And let's not forget that Switzerland is the president's team and we have to be cautious.
Andygers
11-25-2007, 05:26 PM
Greece have got the easy group, and will make it through. Although Switzerland are a very good team.
Saraj Fanatico
11-25-2007, 05:29 PM
Greece already booked their tickets to South Africa. Congratulations! Enjoy your trip!
shevafan
11-25-2007, 06:09 PM
omg this is the most easiest group. from these teams maybe only greece deserves to be in the wc, but switzerland isnt bad either
Italianduke
11-25-2007, 06:12 PM
Greece top seeded is the biggest joke of World Football.
After Qualifications for Euro2008 they got, on paper, another easy group.
After 2004 Greece seems to have a mighty luck :|
Galletti7
11-25-2007, 06:27 PM
I think we will easily get through. Israel and Switzerland are decent teams, but are not good enough to go through. We will grab first place, and I think that the Swiss will get the second spot. This is actually the easiest draw we have ever had.
Italianduke, I don't think that Greece doesn't deserve to be top seeded. Based on coefficients we are top seeded, not because we are in pot 1, not because of our Euro title. We are 11th in Fifa ranking, and 9th in UEFA ranking, so we deserved to be on pot 1. Don't forget that other average teams(Croatia) are in pot 1 too.
Galletti7
11-25-2007, 06:27 PM
I think we will easily get through. Israel and Switzerland are decent teams, but are not good enough to go through. We will grab first place, and I think that the Swiss will get the second spot. This is actually the easiest draw we have ever had.
Italianduke, I don't think that Greece doesn't deserve to be top seeded. Based on coefficients we are top seeded, not because we are in pot 1, not because of our Euro title. We are 11th in Fifa ranking, and 9th in UEFA ranking, so we deserved to be on pot 1. Don't forget that other average teams(Croatia) are in pot 1 too.
mihajlovic11
11-25-2007, 06:30 PM
I cant beleive the luck Greece have had lately. Anyway good luck to yous I wouldnt be complaining either.
Bigpappys_gun
11-25-2007, 06:58 PM
wow is this going to end up the most defensive grp ever?
Andygers
11-25-2007, 07:20 PM
wow is this going to end up the most defensive grp ever? lol yeah but Switzerland are a very good team.
wales
11-25-2007, 09:34 PM
Rofl at this group. Greece should go through.
stuglue
11-25-2007, 09:58 PM
Im quite surprised you all think Greece will cruise this group,im sticking my neck and going for Israel to top the group,they are much improved in the last year,they use to concede lots of soft goals but they are getting better defensively and they fight hard at home.
Latvia have had there time in the sun(Euro 2004),they won't qualify.
wales
11-25-2007, 09:59 PM
This group gives even the likes of Moldova some hope.
Lusitβnia Power
11-25-2007, 11:38 PM
Greece, Israel and Switzerland...unless we see surprising things from the israelis and the swiss, Greece is going for a ride to SA 2010...
Andygers
11-25-2007, 11:42 PM
Greece have been handed the group of glory and should take it as a gift and not screw it up.
Bosnian Unit
11-27-2007, 01:48 AM
Switzerland & Israel will grap first two spots.
If Israel doesnt make it this time, they will never. They have a good team, and easy group.
Greeks are noting but bunch of boring players who are killing the beautifull game, and they will not be able to overcome Switzerland and Israel.
plato-ny
11-27-2007, 02:53 AM
Switzerland & Israel will grap first two spots.
If Israel doesnt make it this time, they will never. They have a good team, and easy group.
Greeks are noting but bunch of boring players who are killing the beautifull game, and they will not be able to overcome Switzerland and Israel.
Whats killing the beautiful game is having a team like Bosnia playing qualifying matches with there lousy and corrupt FA. BTW, according to Eurobet, Greece are the favorite to win the division followed by the Swiss. As for Bosnia qualifying, well...
plato-ny
11-27-2007, 03:01 AM
Greece, Israel and Switzerland...unless we see surprising things from the israelis and the swiss, Greece is going for a ride to SA 2010...
Greece is the favorite to win the division but it wont be a cakewalk. Israel has not lost at home in 7 years and improved to Pot 2. The Swiss should be a Pot 1/Pot 2 team but because they did not play any qualifying matches, they dropped to Pot 3. They qualified for the last several tournaments and made it to the second round of WC 2006 where they topped their division over eventual finalist France and lost in penalties to Ukraine.
plato-ny
11-27-2007, 03:03 AM
I cant beleive the luck Greece have had lately. Anyway good luck to yous I wouldnt be complaining either.
Greece was lucky amongst the Pot 1 teams in the draw but its not lucky that they are in Pot 1 for they worked hard to get there to avoid the Big Boys and reaped the reward as such.
plato-ny
11-27-2007, 03:10 AM
Greece top seeded is the biggest joke of World Football.
After Qualifications for Euro2008 they got, on paper, another easy group.
After 2004 Greece seems to have a mighty luck :|
Greece worked hard to get into Pot 1. As for jokes, your division is something to laugh at. The Swiss, in Greece's division, have consistently qualified for the last several tournaments unlike Bulgaria and Ireland, who are in Italy's division. As for Greece being lucky since 2004, what was lucky was the best team not winning the WC.
Galletti7
11-27-2007, 08:36 AM
Switzerland & Israel will grap first two spots.
If Israel doesnt make it this time, they will never. They have a good team, and easy group.
Greeks are noting but bunch of boring players who are killing the beautifull game, and they will not be able to overcome Switzerland and Israel.
I believe that Turkey and Norway are better than Israel and Switzerland, and since we are better than both of them and qualified with ease in the Euro qualifying group, I don't know why we should have problems with this one. We will get the first place. And about killing the game, I don't think that any team at the moment plays beautiful football. If you know one, tell me...
The delegation from Greece, the European champions, cheered when they were drawn in this group and probably with good reason. Greece won a tougher European qualifying group which included Norway and Turkey. Israel and Switzerland will probably be eyeing second place behind Greece and a chance of qualifying through the playoffs.
PAO_HELLAS
11-27-2007, 12:34 PM
I am so glad "Bosnian Unit" predicts against Greece again, this is going to bring us luck. Just remember his predictions for the Euro 2008 qualifiers :p.
wales
11-27-2007, 03:07 PM
Well this is what hard work does gives you the opportunity of a potentially easy group, fair play to Greece!!!
wales
11-27-2007, 03:08 PM
Greece Favourites to win Group.
poutismalakas
11-27-2007, 05:12 PM
Greeks are noting but bunch of boring players who are killing the beautifull game, and they will not be able to overcome Switzerland and Israel.
Well Those "bunch of boring players" WHIPPED the SH!T OUT of your team 4-0 IN Bosnia and again in Athens!
stuglue
11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
The quality of Israel,Greece and Switzerland is very close,they all seem to play a similar style of football.None of the teams have any real flair but they work very hard for each other,i think its going to be a close group with Israel and Greece taking the top 2
Bosnian Unit
11-27-2007, 09:23 PM
Whats killing the beautiful game is having a team like Bosnia playing qualifying matches with there lousy and corrupt FA. BTW, according to Eurobet, Greece are the favorite to win the division followed by the Swiss. As for Bosnia qualifying, well...
I agree our FA is corrupted, and i really dont know why we dont get disqualified.
At once we had president of FA who is in politics:boo: .
UEFA/FIFA must be close with our corrupted FA thats why they dont want to disqualifiy us :mad2: .
We never since our independence had our best players playing in one game.
I have no feelings for ''our'' NT, until there are changes.
WE ARE JOKE !
@ poutismalakas,
Just read this, becouse this is my respond to your post. And if our FA was not corrupted we would be something like Croatia, Zlatan Ibrahimovic would play for us....and 17 yrs old Miralem Pjanic (Metz) would at least play in our U21 NT, Emra Tahirovic (Lille) would at least get chance in one game insted of some domcestic league players who's managers pay our FA so they can play in our NT so they can be sold easier and for more money. Sergej Barbarez who is ranked 9th in Bundesliga would still play, so would Salihamidzic from Juventus ,Papac from Glazgow Rangers etc... Im sure outcome of our games would be different if we was not in this kind of shit.
poutismalakas
11-28-2007, 01:32 AM
I agree our FA is corrupted, and i really dont know why we dont get disqualified.
At once we had president of FA who is in politics:boo: .
UEFA/FIFA must be close with our corrupted FA thats why they dont want to disqualifiy us :mad2: .
We never since our independence had our best players playing in one game.
I have no feelings for ''our'' NT, until there are changes.
WE ARE JOKE !
@ poutismalakas,
Just read this, becouse this is my respond to your post. And if our FA was not corrupted we would be something like Croatia, Zlatan Ibrahimovic would play for us....and 17 yrs old Miralem Pjanic (Metz) would at least play in our U21 NT, Emra Tahirovic (Lille) would at least get chance in one game insted of some domcestic league players who's managers pay our FA so they can play in our NT so they can be sold easier and for more money. Sergej Barbarez who is ranked 9th in Bundesliga would still play, so would Salihamidzic from Juventus ,Papac from Glazgow Rangers etc... Im sure outcome of our games would be different if we was not in this kind of shit.
Hey My reply was in response to you;) I have been saying IF BiH had their shit together they would shocking alot of teams! But I'll accept it that we still beat you guys:D
Panathinaikos2
11-28-2007, 02:03 AM
I agree our FA is corrupted, and i really dont know why we dont get disqualified.
At once we had president of FA who is in politics:boo: .
UEFA/FIFA must be close with our corrupted FA thats why they dont want to disqualifiy us :mad2: .
We never since our independence had our best players playing in one game.
I have no feelings for ''our'' NT, until there are changes.
WE ARE JOKE !
@ poutismalakas,
Just read this, becouse this is my respond to your post. And if our FA was not corrupted we would be something like Croatia, Zlatan Ibrahimovic would play for us....and 17 yrs old Miralem Pjanic (Metz) would at least play in our U21 NT, Emra Tahirovic (Lille) would at least get chance in one game insted of some domcestic league players who's managers pay our FA so they can play in our NT so they can be sold easier and for more money. Sergej Barbarez who is ranked 9th in Bundesliga would still play, so would Salihamidzic from Juventus ,Papac from Glazgow Rangers etc... Im sure outcome of our games would be different if we was not in this kind of shit.No offence but until you guys get all your shit together, don't accuse other teams of "destroying the game of football"!
Switzerland & Israel will grap first two spots.
If Israel doesnt make it this time, they will never. They have a good team, and easy group.
Greeks are noting but bunch of boring players who are killing the beautifull game, and they will not be able to overcome Switzerland and Israel.
we made the game very beautiful with the 4-0 trashing of Bosnia
Fenerliyim
11-28-2007, 03:22 AM
aight guys cut out the greece vs. bosnia stuff.
This group is the easiest out there. A boring group if u ask me, imo Isreal will make it and the greeks as well. i dont remember the last time israel lost in israel and the swiss are nothing, they only made WC06 cause of Blatter, and are in Euro 08 cause they host it.
The greeks dont play eye-pleasing football, but they get the job done, and tend not to lose points to the smaller fish in groups
~zero_signal~
11-29-2007, 02:41 PM
:lol: Soft group here ... Greece should have no problems. I can't see any serious competitors, except maybe Switzerland.
:lol: Soft group here ... Greece should have no problems. I can't see any serious competitors, except maybe Switzerland.
Switzerland would have played 3 official matches in a 4 year period so there team isnt as organized as it should be. I really dont like when host countries dont play official games because the team isnt on the same page. Thats better for us but i think Isreal would be the hardest team for us. the only difference.. we dont drop easy points like they do.
Andygers
11-29-2007, 08:42 PM
Switzerland would have played 3 official matches in a 4 year period so there team isnt as organized as it should be. I really dont like when host countries dont play official games because the team isnt on the same page. Thats better for us but i think Isreal would be the hardest team for us. the only difference.. we dont drop easy points like they do. Yeah I agree Switzerland have only played a few games but I think they are still dangerous and should be watched, also Israel only missed out on qualification for the European championships by a point so they should be watched but Greece have been great in the last few years and are rightly the favourites.
Jadhu
11-30-2007, 07:32 PM
As from this group I would like to see Greece not to qualify. They have had so easy qualifying groups lately so it would be right if they didn't qualify. :)
plato-ny
12-01-2007, 05:14 AM
As from this group I would like to see Greece not to qualify. They have had so easy qualifying groups lately so it would be right if they didn't qualify. :)
If Spain and Turkey are such easy teams to qualify against (and over them for first place), then Greece have had an easy qualification.
As from this group I would like to see Greece not to qualify. They have had so easy qualifying groups lately so it would be right if they didn't qualify. :)
In the past we have only had hard groups, groups with germany and england in it. we dont pick our groups. its random. you can only win games that are given to you and thats what we do. Its right not to qualify bc we got into an easy group??? :lol: :lol: :lol: no comment
PAO_HELLAS
12-03-2007, 08:32 PM
In the past we have only had hard groups, groups with germany and england in it.
Exactly, as we were much lower in the FIFA ranking. The current position of Greece which has easy draws as an effect is a result of work, not a result of luck.
Exactly, as we were much lower in the FIFA ranking. The current position of Greece which has easy draws as an effect is a result of work, not a result of luck.
As high as we are we could have gotten a team like England in our group. we were lucky we didnt. 6 years ago we got england and germany in our group will much easier groups were made.
emode
12-05-2007, 01:55 AM
:lol: Soft group here ... Greece should have no problems. I can't see any serious competitors, except maybe Switzerland.
I agree Greece and Switzerland should top this group easily.
wales
12-11-2007, 01:01 PM
Should...
Aneke
12-16-2007, 09:08 AM
I agree our FA is corrupted, and i really dont know why we dont get disqualified.
At once we had president of FA who is in politics:boo: .
UEFA/FIFA must be close with our corrupted FA thats why they dont want to disqualifiy us :mad2: .
We never since our independence had our best players playing in one game.
I have no feelings for ''our'' NT, until there are changes.
WE ARE JOKE !
@ poutismalakas,
Just read this, becouse this is my respond to your post. And if our FA was not corrupted we would be something like Croatia, Zlatan Ibrahimovic would play for us....and 17 yrs old Miralem Pjanic (Metz) would at least play in our U21 NT, Emra Tahirovic (Lille) would at least get chance in one game insted of some domcestic league players who's managers pay our FA so they can play in our NT so they can be sold easier and for more money. Sergej Barbarez who is ranked 9th in Bundesliga would still play, so would Salihamidzic from Juventus ,Papac from Glazgow Rangers etc... Im sure outcome of our games would be different if we was not in this kind of shit.
That's hilarious, in a pathetic kind of way. You have to make up fantasies because your team can't cut it. You're probably the only nation in Europe to do this.
As for the group, a dream group. Greece qualifies.
plato-ny
01-11-2008, 12:32 AM
Reps of teams met in Tel Aviv to discuss a schedule. Greece and Latvia could not agree between each other on a schedule so they have to forumulate a schedule by the 16th or else FIFA will determine a schedule.
plato-ny
01-17-2008, 11:56 PM
Reps of teams met in Tel Aviv to discuss a schedule. Greece and Latvia could not agree between each other on a schedule so they have to forumulate a schedule by the 16th or else FIFA will determine a schedule.
The draw will be conducted on January 30 by FIFA.
plato-ny
01-30-2008, 05:32 PM
6. September 2008
Moldova Latvia
Luxemburg Greece
Israel - Switzerland
10. September 2008
Latvia Greece
Moldova Israel
Switzerland - Luxemburg
11. October 2008
Luxemburg Israel
Switzerland Latvia
Greece - Moldova
15. October 2008
Latvia Israel
Luxemburg Moldova
Greece - Switzerland
28. Mδrz 2009
Luxemburg Latvia
Israel Greece
Moldova -Switzerland
1. April 2009
Latvia Luxemburg
Greece Israel
Switzerland - Moldova
5. September 2009
Israel Latvia
Moldova Luxemburg
Switzerland - Greece
9. September 2009
Israel Luxemburg
Latvia Switzerland
Moldova - Greece
10. October 2009
Greece Latvia
Israel Moldova
Luxemburg - Switzerland
14. October 2009
Latvia Moldova
Greece Luxemburg
Switzerland - Israel
Andygers
05-31-2008, 12:35 PM
Greece will have 9 points before they play Switerzland on the 15th October, that will give them confidence to go on and win the group. Easy draw and fixtures for the Greek.
NB-MVP
05-31-2008, 02:43 PM
Pretty easy group for Greece. Israel declined, they only have about 3-4 good players these days, the Swiss will be a challenge to the Greek. Moldova might pull surprises, Latvia and Luxembourg plainly sucks unless Pjanic played for Luxembourg, then Luxembourg will top this group :lol: but Pjanic decided to play for us... so... yeah...
Andygers
05-31-2008, 03:32 PM
^ Lol I think this guy Pjanic is ok but you were hyping him up like sliced bread, I mean you showed me a video where he just missed all the time!
Freakshow
07-28-2008, 04:37 AM
Pretty easy group for Greece. Israel declined, they only have about 3-4 good players these days, the Swiss will be a challenge to the Greek. Moldova might pull surprises, Latvia and Luxembourg plainly sucks unless Pjanic played for Luxembourg, then Luxembourg will top this group :lol: but Pjanic decided to play for us... so... yeah...
Israel have more then just 3-4 good players, you're just not really familiar with them.
Here's some information about Israeli football and players:
Yossi Benayoun - Liverpool. Scored 11 goals in his first season in Liverpool (2 hat tricks).
Tal Ben Haim - Plays for Chelsea.
Roberto Colauti - Argentinean Israeli plays for Borussia Monchengladbach so far scored 4 goals in pre-season matches.
Gal alberman - plays for Borussia Monchengladbach.
Gui Assulin - 17 years old plays for Barcelona youth team, he's considered to be the next Messi.
Ben Sahar - Chelsea Young player (19 yo) currently on loan at Portsmouth.
Elyaniv Barda - Plays for RC Genk. Scored 16 goals in his first season.
Dudu Aouate - Goalkeeper, plays for Deportivo La Corunia.
Barak Itzhaki - Played for RC Genk, recently came back to Beitar Jerusalem.
Tamir Cohen - Plays for Bolton.
And more young players like Toto Tamuz, Ben Shushan, Buzaglo..etc etc
Israel made a huge progress by the years. They almost qualified to WC 2006 finished #3 with the same point as Switzerland. Switzerland eventually made it because of Goal difference.
To Euro 2008 they were missing only 1 point to qualify, while winning Russia 2-1.
The Israelis really feel that they can make it this time, and it's gonna be really hard to stop them. Greece will want to forget Euro 2008 and show that they are still a strong team. As for Switzerland, they're just not good enough.
My Guess is: Israel and Greece
vojvoda
08-20-2008, 02:53 AM
Very interesting group! I think this could be the Israelies year.
Israel showed their quality and determination during 2008 qualification against quality teams like Croatia England and Russia.
My prediction is that the Israelis will topple the group. Then come the Swiss quality wise and then probably the Greeks but their crapy performance during Euro 2008 does not promise a lot for the greeks.
Anyways this is what i think will be
1. Israel
2. Swiss
3. Greece
I would like to see:
1. Greece
2. Israel:D
NB-MVP
08-20-2008, 03:45 AM
1) Greece/Switzerland
Seriously, Switzerland is better than ever.
A(Bosancero)
09-03-2008, 10:03 PM
Its Greece Switzerland the rest are fighting for 3rd
zampao
09-08-2008, 01:18 AM
The results of 1st games:
Luxemburg-Greece=0-3
Israel-Switzerland=2-2
Moldova-Latvia=1-2
greece has started strong like always, im sure they will get out of this group alive :)
i would have expected switzerland to beat isreal, but that was a great fightback from isreal after being 2-0 down.
plato-ny
09-10-2008, 09:32 PM
Switzerland 1:2 Luxembourg (embarrasing home loss)
Moldova 1:2 Israel
Latvia 0:2 Greece
Standings MP W D L Pts
Greece 2 2 0 0 6
Israel 2 1 1 0 4
Latvia 2 1 0 1 3
Luxembourg 2 1 0 1 3
Switzerland 2 0 1 1 1
Moldova 2 0 0 2 0
Paxis
10-11-2008, 10:49 PM
Update!!
Greece 9
Israel 7
Switzerland 4
Latvia 3
Luxembourg 3
Moldova 0
Switzerland 2-1 Latvia
Luxembourg 1-3 Israel
Greece 3-0 Moldova
zampao
10-13-2008, 04:22 PM
Greece will have 9 points before they play Switerzland on the 15th October, that will give them confidence to go on and win the group. Easy draw and fixtures for the Greek.
yeah Andy u r right.:)
we have 9 points before playing with Switzerland.
benfica64
10-14-2008, 01:39 AM
:lol: Soft group here ... Greece should have no problems. I can't see any serious competitors, except maybe Switzerland.
Soft as butter. You dont get an easier group had you wished for one.
benfica64
10-14-2008, 01:45 AM
Greece already booked their tickets to South Africa. Congratulations! Enjoy your trip!
:lol::lol: NO shit!!! I said it in one post, all they have to do is show up. You cant dream Up of an easier road to the world cup, then the one Greece got.
benfica64
10-14-2008, 01:48 AM
This group gives even the likes of Moldova some hope.
:lol::lol:
stuglue
10-20-2008, 09:45 AM
[Greece] Greece 4 3 0 1 9 2 9
[Israel] Israel 4 2 2 0 8 5 8
[Switzerland] Switzerland 4 2 1 1 7 6 7
[Latvia] Latvia 4 1 1 2 4 6 4
[Luxembourg] Luxembourg 4 1 1 2 3 7 4
[Moldova] Moldova 4 0 1 3 2 7 1
I'm standing by what i said, Israel to qualify.
Freakshow
10-31-2008, 03:14 AM
Me too. Israel is the only unbeaten team so far. In 2 campaigns they have lost only 3 times (twice to Croatia and once to England).
The game against Greece is going to be really interesting...
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wales
03-29-2009, 07:15 PM
lol who knows who's gonna win this group.
NB-MVP
03-29-2009, 07:20 PM
Probably the weakest group in the qualifications. But it's really a fight between Greece, Switzerland, and Israel although I think Greece is a talent above the latter 2.
wales
03-29-2009, 07:21 PM
this group is so poor, i mean switzerland 1-2 Luxembourg? lol
NB-MVP
03-29-2009, 07:25 PM
At home too :lol:
wales
03-29-2009, 07:27 PM
yeah, switzerland play boring football i remember from the last world cup.
NB-MVP
03-29-2009, 07:30 PM
Yeah against Ukraine, there were so many fouls and there was nothing creative about the game. Neither team knew how to score.
wales
03-29-2009, 07:31 PM
yeah, worst game in history? neither team deserved to win, and that was a last 16 game aswell.
NB-MVP
03-29-2009, 07:37 PM
how switzerland got to that round is beyond me
wales
03-29-2009, 07:39 PM
yeah easy group
stuglue
09-06-2009, 12:13 PM
Israel have thrown any chance of qualifying away. It was a shock to see them lose to latvia yesterday. I really hope Latvia push Greece all the way and force them from 2nd spot. It really is Greece's spot to lose as they have an easier run in than Latvia.
They face Moldova which they will win. The game after that is key to 2nd spot as they face Latvia at home. Win that and they have 2nd wrapped up.
Latvia on the other hand face Switzerland this Wednesday then Greece and a home match against Moldova.
Looks like we are going to have to suffer Switzerland at another finals.
wales
09-07-2009, 02:21 AM
lol, yeah, come on latvia :)
stuglue
09-10-2009, 07:55 AM
Im still holding onto Israel taking second spot here. Shock result has to be Greece drawing with Moldova.
Greece have a tough game against Latvia next month which I expect to end a draw.
wales
09-10-2009, 05:57 PM
I thought Greece might slip up.
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