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Sema
11-08-2007, 01:32 AM
TUUSULA, Finland (Reuters) - Seven children and a head teacher were killed when a pupil opened fire at a school in southern Finland on Wednesday, hours after he posted a video on YouTube foreshadowing a massacre there.

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The 18-year-old, who walked through the corridors of Jokela High School firing into classroom after classroom with a .22-caliber handgun, died later in hospital after shooting himself in the head, his doctor said.

"Five boys, two girls and one adult woman were killed," police chief Matti Tohkanen told a news conference.

He later identified the woman as the principal of the school in Tuusula municipality, a town of 35,000 some 60 km (40 miles) from Helsinki.

The YouTube video, set to a hard-driving song called "Stray Bullet" by the industrial rock band KMFDM, shows a still photo of a low building that appears to be Jokela High School.

The photo breaks apart to reveal a red-tinted picture of a man pointing a handgun at the camera.

"He (the gunman) was moving systematically through the school hallways, knocking on the doors and shooting through the doors," said Kim Kiuru, who was teaching a grade 8 class when the shooting began.

"It felt unreal, a pupil I have taught myself was running towards me, screaming, a pistol in his hand."

He said the gunman had been keenly interested in war history and extremist movements. Police did not identify the student, except to say he came from "a normal family" and had a father, mother and one brother.

The weapon used in the massacre was held legally and the gunman had obtained a permit for it just three weeks ago through a gun club, police said.

INTERNET POSTING

The YouTube video, entitled "Jokela High School Massacre - 11/7/2007," was posted on Tuesday by a user called Sturmgeist89.

"I am prepared to fight and die for my cause," read a posting by a user of the same name.

"I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection."

"Sturmgeist" means storm spirit in German. Hours after the massacre, the user's account was suspended.

Lyrics to various KMFDM songs, including "Stray Bullet," were also posted on a web site maintained by Eric Harris, one of the gunmen in the 1999 Columbine High School massacre.

KMFDM's record company, Metropolis Records, said they were "extremely saddened" by news of the shooting.

Jokela High School serves some 500 middle and high school students. "When police arrived there was complete chaos, pupils were jumping out of the building through the windows," said inspector Timo Leppala.

Outside a church community building near the school, a mother waited as a Red Cross bus pulled up outside and children from the school began to get off. She burst into tears when, through a window, she spotted her child, unharmed.

"This is a peaceful place, nothing like this has happened and nothing like this is to be expected either," Tuusula mayor Hannu Joensivu said.

Despite Finland having the world's third-highest per capita gun ownership, violent incidents are rare at Finnish schools. According to Finnish media, there have been four stabbings at schools since 1999. None of these were fatal.

Finnish Prime Minister Matti Vanhanen told reporters the shooting was an "extremely sad event."

"This will leave a crack in the society we have been used to and have learned to be secure," he said.

The last major attack in the country occurred in 2002 when a young man killed including himself and six others in a bomb blast at a shopping mall in Helsinki.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071107/ts_nm/finland_shooting_dc_14

Centarfor9
11-08-2007, 02:28 AM
I read enough to say THAT'S MESSED UP! :)

I blame these guys for it
http://img.timeinc.net/time/europe/magazine/2006/0515/eurosong.jpg

wasn't Mariel from Finland?

Sema
11-08-2007, 03:10 AM
I read enough to say THAT'S MESSED UP! :)

I blame these guys for it
http://img.timeinc.net/time/europe/magazine/2006/0515/eurosong.jpg

wasn't Mariel from Finland?

I'm pretty sure she is from Finland.

SiN
11-08-2007, 05:31 AM
Yeh she was loool

But anyway that guy must have been disturbed!

Pape
11-08-2007, 05:34 AM
Thats ***ked guys..

Vic
11-08-2007, 11:12 AM
That's really ***ked up!

Cihangir
11-08-2007, 05:24 PM
Horrible.

"I, as a natural selector, will eliminate all who I see unfit, disgraces of human race and failures of natural selection."

It's good that he later realizes he's "the failure." And he killed himself right? That's good.

Wabbit
11-09-2007, 12:13 AM
I blame the society.............and americans...............(?)

:lol:

autobus
11-09-2007, 12:41 AM
I thought this kind of things only happened in USA

Pape
11-09-2007, 12:43 AM
Well there and in the countries where they pretend to be American.

SiN
11-09-2007, 01:43 AM
I still cannot comprehened why you would do that?

What would make you want to kill people and then kill yourself?

Pape
11-09-2007, 03:32 AM
I think some people feel they are the greatest, and if they believe that they should die, as in if the greatest dies, than whats the point of others living? This is really a mental disorder if you ask me. I myself would much rather die saving a stranger than doing the opposite.

Musa
11-09-2007, 04:19 AM
Wow man. I could never bring myself to kill a person (unless in war ofcourse) I can't see why anyone would kill the people they see every day, and probably know. I couldnt shoot anyone at my school, even the people i dislike. Wow, just wow.

Centarfor9
11-09-2007, 04:48 AM
I also blame Charles Darwin. :eek:

MarieL
11-09-2007, 11:51 AM
Sinter and b-rabbit, you're morons. This isn't a joke. :(

valdanito_10
11-09-2007, 09:13 PM
Sinter and b-rabbit, you're morons. This isn't a joke. :(
Agreed!

Come on guys, do you really have to make a joke out of everythingÇ?

autobus
11-09-2007, 09:25 PM
I think we can laugh at everything, look at Eminem who made fun about Columbine

Centarfor9
11-09-2007, 09:45 PM
I wasn't joking Mariel - things happen for a reason - everything is related. I was hinting at Finlands society (the rules, regulations, influences, liberties etc) i.e. it's societies fault for the most part - or you can view the kid who did it as an abomination (not part of the society). I believe he was a product of the society.

Charles Darwin was the one who made the 'natural selection' concept popular - so that's why I made that other comment.

(not sure what rabit said and that doesn't concerm me to the point I have to defend what he said)

You are from finish orgin (and a much more intelligent person that I am - I assume given that I'm a moron) so how do you explain this?

Musa
11-09-2007, 09:53 PM
Agreed!

Come on guys, do you really have to make a joke out of everythingÇ?

I highly doubt they are trying to make fun of the tragic shooting, just trying to make light out of the situtaion.

Centarfor9
11-09-2007, 09:54 PM
yeah also @ Valda that is not cool

Saraj Fanático
11-09-2007, 11:36 PM
This kid got inspired by the columbine shooters (Eric and Dylan), they all are. Those two have become some legendary murderer idols for teens. I dunno how anyone can find them as inspiration in anything. Natural Selection was often used by Eric Harris in his writings before April 20th.