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Georgius
10-22-2007, 06:56 PM
Here, I would like to introduce and talk about my country - Georgia, which is situated at the border of Eastern Europe and Western Asia in the South Caucasus at the east coast of the Black Sea. Many people think that Georgian people are similar to Russians and belong to Slavic people, but this isn't true. I want to explain that Georgian people, unlike Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Polish, Czech, Slovakian, Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian, Macedonian and Bulgarian people don't belong to Slavic nations. Georgian nation isn't Slavic nation. Georgian people even don't belong to Indo-European group of nations unlike Armenians, Celtic, Roman, Germanic, Greek, Iranian, Albanian & Anatolian people. Our nation is unique and can be considered as Iberian-Caucasian nation. The term "Iberian" is derived from the ancient Georgian Kingdom Iberia (4th century BC).
Georgia is one of the oldest countries in the World. It is the motherland of wine and Golden Fleece. Wine has originated from Georgian tribes about 8000 years ago and appeared in Greece about 6500 years ago. The Latin name of wine - "vino" which appears in most European languages is derived from Georgian word "gvino" meaning wine in Georgian language. Almost everyone has heard the Greek Myth about Argonauts and Golden Fleece where is mentioned unique country at the eastern Black Sea Coast called Colchis. (15th century BC) but less people knows that Colchis was ancient Georgian Kingdom and people living there where Georgians. The capital of ancient Colchis - Kutaia still survives and now is called Kutaisi, it is the second largest city in Georgia with a population about 250 000 inhabitants. Kutaisi is 3500 years old.
In additon I want to say that in Georgia Christianity was declared as the state religion in 337 A.D. We are traditionally Orthodox Christians.
You may follow this link to get the information about Georgia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country))
You may follow this link to get the information about Georgian Kingdom of Iberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Iberia
You may follow this link to get the information about Georgian Kingdom of Colchis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis
We have our own language, which is neither Slavic nor even Indo-European Language. Linguistics could find more common between Italian and Russian languages in comparison with Russian and Georgian Languages. Georgian language is something really very different... it is unique... You may see the information about our official language, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_language
We also have our own alphabet, which is used to write our official language - Georgian. Georgian alphabet was created in 3rd century BC. Georgian script is also unique, it has neither common with Slavic alphabets nor Latin, Greek, Arabian.... and etc. alphabets. You may see the information and visualisation of Georgian script, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_alphabet
Here, I will write one sentence in Georgian to show it to you:
მე მიყვარს ფეხბურთი - I love football - [me mikvars pekhburti]
(You can see translation and phonetical transcription in English)
There are some interesting video links to introduce my country more clearly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhnJH8jdVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxT-ujxBBQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ips2JcmgYnY
Fenerliyim
10-22-2007, 07:38 PM
man bro u didnt have to make 4 threads about it, 1 one was enough lol.
Just for future reference we have to approve threads in the politics forum before it is seen by other members so just wait patiently and ur thread if found appropiate will be approved sooner or later
Georgius
10-22-2007, 07:41 PM
man bro u didnt have to make 4 threads about it, 1 one was enough lol
OK. I know it... but the threads appeared later so I didn't know if all of them were posted and I mistakely submitted again and again... OK. Of course one is enough ;)
PAO_HELLAS
10-30-2007, 05:01 PM
Here, I would like to introduce and talk about my country - Georgia, which is situated at the border of Eastern Europe and Western Asia in the South Caucasus at the east coast of the Black Sea. Many people think that Georgian people are similar to Russians and belong to Slavic people, but this isn't true. I want to explain that Georgian people, unlike Russian, Ukrainian, Belarusian, Polish, Czech, Slovakian, Slovenian, Croatian, Bosnian, Serbian, Macedonian and Bulgarian people don't belong to Slavic nations. Georgian nation isn't Slavic nation. Georgian people even don't belong to Indo-European group of nations unlike Armenians, Celtic, Roman, Germanic, Greek, Iranian, Albanian & Anatolian people. Our nation is unique and can be considered as Iberian-Caucasian nation. The term "Iberian" is derived from the ancient Georgian Kingdom Iberia (4th century BC).
Georgia is one of the oldest countries in the World. It is the motherland of wine and Golden Fleece. Wine has originated from Georgian tribes about 8000 years ago and appeared in Greece about 6500 years ago. The Latin name of wine - "vino" which appears in most European languages is derived from Georgian word "gvino" meaning wine in Georgian language. Almost everyone has heard the Greek Myth about Argonauts and Golden Fleece where is mentioned unique country at the eastern Black Sea Coast called Colchis. (15th century BC) but less people knows that Colchis was ancient Georgian Kingdom and people living there where Georgians. The capital of ancient Colchis - Kutaia still survives and now is called Kutaisi, it is the second largest city in Georgia with a population about 250 000 inhabitants. Kutaisi is 3500 years old.
In additon I want to say that in Georgia Christianity was declared as the state religion in 337 A.D. We are traditionally Orthodox Christians.
You may follow this link to get the information about Georgia:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgia_(country))
You may follow this link to get the information about Georgian Kingdom of Iberia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Caucasian_Iberia
You may follow this link to get the information about Georgian Kingdom of Colchis: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchis
We have our own language, which is neither Slavic nor even Indo-European Language. Linguistics could find more common between Italian and Russian languages in comparison with Russian and Georgian Languages. Georgian language is something really very different... it is unique... You may see the information about our official language, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_language
We also have our own alphabet, which is used to write our official language - Georgian. Georgian alphabet was created in 3rd century BC. Georgian script is also unique, it has neither common with Slavic alphabets nor Latin, Greek, Arabian.... and etc. alphabets. You may see the information and visualisation of Georgian script, here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Georgian_alphabet
Here, I will write one sentence in Georgian to show it to you:
მე მიყვარს ფეხბურთი - I love football - [me mikvars pekhburti]
(You can see translation and phonetical transcription in English)
There are some interesting video links to introduce my country more clearly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LjhnJH8jdVA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fxT-ujxBBQc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ips2JcmgYnY
Interesting information about Georgia. Just a remark on Indo-europeans: You referred to "Indo-european group of nations". They are no "Indo-european nations". Indo-european is a lingual term, not ethnical. The theory of the Indo-europeans had genetical extentions in the beginning, but anthropologically it was an unproven and uncritical theory that's why its genetical part did not last for much time seriously.
Today Indo-european is mostly a lingual term. Indo-europeans is often used to describe the speakers of the language family called Indo-european.
ARBANITAI
12-18-2007, 09:04 AM
ah new, l i allways thought Georgia was just one of these indo-slavic countries. like many of the rest countries over there.
and im not really sure if the "wine" really originates from Georgian people, it was writen that Noah actually was the man that discovered Wine.. (but well thats something writen in the bible anyway) but however the wine was also used alot in the arabic peninsula in very early ages, and them as the first ppl to use, but its not exact all, besides im not sure all.
Georgius
01-16-2008, 03:45 PM
ARBANITAI
ah new, l allways thought Georgia was just one of these indo-slavic countries like many of the rest countries over there.
I see...
Georgia isn't slavic country, we are close to Russia and other slavic countries but have completely different culture, language, alphabet and history. Many people mix up Georgians and slavic nations because for more than 70 years we were part of USSR.
Georgius
01-16-2008, 04:17 PM
Georgia is a very different and unique country having independent culture for thousands of years and 3000-year-old history of statehood.
Here are links of some interesting videos about Georgian history & people in Youtube in English language:
Treasures of Georgia (Sakartvelo) - part one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lS9aCTmUqcs
Treasures of Georgia (Sakartvelo) - part two
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPay2iTZvmU
Treasures of Georgia (Sakartvelo) - part three
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T3YL4DRpqBc
Georgius
01-17-2008, 07:15 AM
Map of modern Georgia
http://i041.radikal.ru/0801/91/f78d79bff893.jpg
Georgius
01-17-2008, 07:39 AM
Map of Georgia in 1st millennium BC (Before Christ)
http://i044.radikal.ru/0801/87/6b5ae6a7f6c2.jpg
Georgius
01-17-2008, 07:56 AM
On the both maps you can see the little town Mtskheta. On the map above(modern Georgia), you can find Mtskheta very close to Tbilisi and on the map below you can find Mtskheta in Eastern Georgia.(Kingdom of Iberia).
Mtskheta was capital of Georgia for about 8 centuries, from 3rd century BC to 5th century AD. Exact date of foundation or founder of Mtskheta isn't but it must be founded at the beginning of 1st millennium BC, before Roman Empire about 3000 years ago.The historical monuments of Mtskheta is a UNESCO World Heritage Site.
aslanlar
01-17-2008, 09:48 PM
Interesting information. Do you have any information on the 1800 - WW1 period of Georgia? :D
poutismalakas
01-17-2008, 10:14 PM
Wow i didn't know there was an Albania next to Georgia humm?
Georgius
01-19-2008, 08:29 AM
Wow I didn't know there was an Albania next to Georgia humm?
Caucasian Albania has no links to Albania we know today. (in Balkania) Caucasian Albania was an ancient nation that assimilated and stopped existence about thousand years ago as a result of expansion of Seljuk-Turks Empire next to Georgia.
Georgius
01-19-2008, 08:34 AM
Do you have any information on the 1800 - WW1 period of Georgia? :D
Yes, sure... during the 1800 - WW1 Georgia was part of Russian Empire and was under big pressure of Tsarism (Russian Monarchy)
aslanlar
01-19-2008, 11:10 AM
Yes, i know that much, but what was their attitude towards the Russian Empire? Like many countries of the time, were they trying to get their indipendance? Or were they happy to be under Russian rule?
Panathinaikos2
01-21-2008, 10:20 PM
Caucasian Albania has no links to Albania we know today. (in Balkania) Caucasian Albania was an ancient nation that assimilated and stopped existence about thousand years ago as a result of expansion of Seljuk-Turks Empire next to Georgia.Well even though it's not exact that modern day Albania has any links with Caucasian Albania, I do have some questions. Why is it that the Chechen language is very similar with the Albanian language. They both have similar grammar and similar sounds such as SQ, PSHQ, which are not common in any IE languages, but are very common in Caucasus languages like Chechenian. Not to mention the Albanians call themselves "Shqip-tari". This name is not IndoEuropean in origin and contains in it the Ural-Altaic suffix "ar" or "tar". Much like: "Khaz-AR", "Av-AR", "Magy-AR", "Bulg-AR", "Hung-AR", "Ta-TAR" - "Ship-TAR". see:
CHECHENIA=ICHQERIA
ALBANIA=SHQIPTERIA
Here is another question of mine as well. Why are many of the towns and places in modern day Albania very identical with the names of the places in the Caucasus?
Just a few, of the many identical place-names between Albania and Caucasus:
Albo-Bushati - Caucasus-Bushati (also the name of an Albanian tribe)
Albo-Baboti - Caucasus-Baboti
Albo-Baka -Caucasus-Bako
Albo-Ballagati - Caucasus-Balagati
Albo-Ballaj,Balli - Caucasus- Bali
Albo-Bashkimi - Caucasus-Bashkoi
Albo-Bathore- Caucasus- Batharia
Albo-Bater- Caucasus- Bataris
Albo-Geg - Caucasus-Gegi, Gegeni, Geguti (Term used by Albanians in their language to denote their brethre north of the Shkumbi R.)
Albo-Demir Kapia - Caucasus-Demir Kapia (Turkish term: "iron gates"; term by which Turks refered to the Caspian Sea or arch: Albanian Sea)
Albo-Kish, Kisha... - Caucasus-Kish (Eight different toponyms in Albania begin with "kish")
Albo-Kurata,Kuratem,Kurateni(villages)-Caucasus-Kura (river) (Nine different toponyms in Albania begin with "Kura")
Albo-Luginasi - Caucasus-Lugini
Albo-Rusani - Caucasus-Rusian
Albo-Sheshani, Shoshani, Shashani - Caucasus-Shashani
Albo-Sheshaj, Sheshi - Caucasus-Sheshleti
Albo-Skalla - Caucasus-Skaleri
Albo-Shiptari Shipyaki, Shkhepa, - Caucasus-Shkepi
Albo-Shkoder - Caucasus-Shkeder, Shked, Shkoda
Albo-Shekulli - Caucasus-Shekoul
Thanks.
Panathinaikos2
01-21-2008, 10:48 PM
Yea, so I guess Albanians can't claim Kosovo after all ;)
Maybe not but you just gave them a idea to claim CHECHENIA :lol:
Panathinaikos2
01-21-2008, 10:51 PM
I hope they don't try and ruin Caucausian territory like they are doing in Kosovo right now :worried:
nb-legenda
01-21-2008, 10:55 PM
man this country is full of culture
poutismalakas
01-21-2008, 10:57 PM
Maybe not but you just gave them a idea to claim CHECHENIA :lol:
You crazy man the Chechens would EAT THEM UP!!!! that also explans why we don't here anything about them in the Balkans until that time period??
Milos_
01-25-2008, 12:55 AM
Wow that is very interesting.Thanks Pana.
Centarfor9
01-25-2008, 01:58 AM
run with it :D
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Georgius good stuff man
I didn't know much about Georgia, except that kaladeze was a georgian
Georgius
01-25-2008, 12:22 PM
In this thread we shouldn't be discussing about Albania and Chechenians... but anyway I will answer to Panathinaikos2 that similarity between modern Albania and some Northern Caucasian nations must be the result of Turkish influce in both cultures in later mid-centuries, long after Caucasian Albania stopped existence. Some North Caucasian Nations have religius/cultural links to Turkish people...
I didn't know much about Georgia, except that Kaladeze was Georgian
Levan Kobiashvili from Schalke 04 (Germany), Zurab Khizanishvili from Blackburn Rovers (England) and Shota Arveladze from Az Alkmaar (Netherlands) are Georgians also.
In addition I would like say that famous songwriter and musician Katie Melua is originally Georgian. She is famous for her songs: "The Closest Thing to Crazy", "Lilac Wine","Crawling up a Hill", "Nine Million Bicycles", and many others.
Katie Melua is ethnical Georgian. Her birth name is Ketevan Melua (in Georgian: ქეთევან მელუა). She was born in Kutaisi (ancient name Kutaia - city I mentioned above) and spent her early childhood in Tbilisi.
http://i049.radikal.ru/0801/15/09661d380b8e.jpg
ქეთევან მელუა (Katie Melua)
Georgius
01-25-2008, 12:38 PM
Kutaisi is in the list of oldest continuously inhabited cities. (About 3700 years old)
See the link below and find city #28
KUTAISI (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_oldest_continuously_inhabited_cities#_note-16)
http://i012.radikal.ru/0801/43/f940ba977376.jpg
ქუთაისი ზამთარში (Kutaisi in winter)
http://i028.radikal.ru/0801/d7/898c0973291e.jpg
გელათი - ღვთისმშობლის სახელობის მონასტერი ქუთაისში.
(Gelati -The Monastery of the Virgin in Kutaisi)
Gelati is the thousand-year-old monastery founded by King of Georgia - David IV the Builder in 11th century.
Gelati Monastery was also recognized by UNESCO as a world heritage site.
Georgius
01-25-2008, 01:24 PM
This is the photo of the oldest Georgian inscription (Georgian written alphabet) found in Eastern Georgia. This inscription is about 1900 years old and dates 1st century AD.
http://i022.radikal.ru/0801/22/cf82acea9f12.jpg
Georgius
01-25-2008, 06:59 PM
http://i036.radikal.ru/0801/a7/b8a71d6241a4.jpg
ბოლნისის სიონის საკათედრო ტაძარი.
(Bolnisi Zion Cathedral)
Bolnisi Zion is 16-century-old cathedral built in 5th century. It is one of the oldest cathedrals in Christianity. Bolnisi Zion is most magnificant example of early centuries Georgian Architecture. It is the biggest basilica of that period.
Georgius
01-25-2008, 07:34 PM
http://i025.radikal.ru/0801/29/57b0318dbadd.jpg
Vardzia - Cave City Complex dug deep into cliffy mountain in South Georgia. It was founded by Queen of Georgia - Tamar in 12th century.
Georgius
01-25-2008, 10:58 PM
http://i012.radikal.ru/0801/9a/155597a0d677.jpg
იაკობ ცურტაველი (Jacob Tsurtaveli)
Jacob Tsurtaveli was the 5th-century Georgian religious writer and Christian priest. He compiled Queen's life in his hagiographic novel the 'Martyrdom of the Holy Queen Shushanik', the oldest surviving work of the Georgian literature written between 476 and 483.
Georgius
01-25-2008, 11:32 PM
http://i001.radikal.ru/0801/06/183148f0a167.jpg
Tbilisi Zion, 13-century-old huge cathedral at night, in the old district of Tbilisi.
This Cathedral was badly damaged during the early Arabian invasions to Georgia and it was almost completely reconstructed in mid-centuries.
Georgius
03-01-2008, 12:35 PM
What do you think: Georgia will be joint or not the MAP (membership action plan) program for NATO in the Bucharest Summit at the beginning of April?
ulster21
03-14-2008, 12:36 PM
Georgius........I recently have learned about abkhazia and the sukhumi massacre of 93 from class......tell me a little about this and the history of abkhazia.....particularly who are the ethnic abkhazians and why some russians joined them in the killings of ethnic georgians
Georgius
03-16-2008, 01:00 PM
ulster21
Georgius........I recently have learned about abkhazia and the sukhumi massacre of 93 from class......tell me a little about this and the history of abkhazia.....particularly who are the ethnic abkhazians and why some russians joined them in the killings of ethnic georgians
First of all I want to say that I am so thankful for your interest in our problems: Sukhumi massacre (massive killing and ethnical clean of Georgian people) of 1993 and strong support of Russian military forces in it. :sad:
This is so painful issue for each of Georgians that I can't write briefly about it. :sad:
Sukhumi massacre was part of armed coflict officially known as Georgian-Abkhazian conflict but in reality it was Georgian-Russian conflict.:sad: Many people think that Russian soldiers only supporting the Abkhazian separatists in killings of ethnical Georgians but in fact whole conflict was provocated by Russian government and Russian military forces were fighting against us using not only ground troops but also air forces and supersonic war planes bombing Georgian cities with tens of thousand civilians.
...and Georgian-Abkhazian conflict (in fact Georgian-Russian conflict) was part of Russian intervention towards Georgia since 1989 including military actions in Sukhumi (administrative center of Abkhazian Autonomous region, GEORGIA), Tskhinvali (administrative center of South Ossetian Autonomous region, GEORGIA), Tbilisi (Capital City of GEORGIA), Zugdidi (big town in Western Georgia). Also many individual air-strikes in Northern Georgia, near Chechnya.
The main goal of Russian military forces actions in some regions of Georgia was to block or interrupt independance of Georgia, its membership of United Nations, European Council and still today trying to block Georgia's membership in NATO.:sad:
In a few words whole this process was/is controlled by Russian government not to let us to build up strong democratic country with close relations to European Union and United States.
The more detailed map of those conflicts.
http://i048.radikal.ru/0803/69/7f2f2d81ad28.jpg
Georgius
03-16-2008, 02:37 PM
sukhumi massacre of 93
Sukhumi massacre (Georgian: სოხუმის ტრაგედია) took place on September 27, 1993, during the War in Abkhazian autonomous region and fall of Sukhumi into separatist hands. It was perpetrated against Georgian civilians in Sukhumi, mainly by militia (police) forces of Abkhaz separatists, Northern Caucasian para-military forces and Russian regular army.[2] It became a part of cruel violation of human rights and the bloody campaign carried out by the separatists and russians, which was known as the ethnic cleaning of Georgians in Abkhazian autonomous region
On September 27, 1993, separatist forces violated the ceasefire initiated by the UN and guaranteed by the Russian Federation:mad2:, which barred both sides from performing military operations. As part of the ceasefire, Georgian forces had withdrawn their heavy artillery and tanks from Sukhumi. Abkhaz, Confederation of Mountain Peoples of the Caucasus, Cossack and Russian militants stormed Sukhumi early in the morning. Confronted by large numbers of combatants, the Georgian army units that remained in the city were unable to prevent the separatist advance into the city.
As a result of Sukhumi massacre and war in Abkhazian autonomous region, separatists para-military forces(strongly supported by Russians) and Russian regular army soldiers killed about 30 000 Georgian people and forced to move from their houses, as the refugees, more than 300 000 Georgians which still can not return to their homes because Russians are still controling main part of Abkhazian Autonomous region.
http://i032.radikal.ru/0803/0e/db6bc216ba78.jpg
...two people are running from Sukhumi with their infant child
http://i031.radikal.ru/0803/00/d7456d28f53a.jpg
...same people at the ground. Georgian artilery fires to Russian military forces to stop them and give civilians more time to flee from Sukhumi
http://i025.radikal.ru/0803/36/c3413e8c3845.jpg
...shot Georgian civilian with his dog, in the street of Sukhumi
http://i029.radikal.ru/0803/49/4024b96f364d.jpg
...administrative government building in Sukhumi (still ruinated)
http://i048.radikal.ru/0803/f3/e528dac84f89.jpg
...many Georgian civilians' corpses in Sukhumi (exclusive photo)
http://i041.radikal.ru/0803/58/1e595135d594.jpg
...corpse of Georgian civilian in Sukhumi (exclusive photo)
Georgius
03-16-2008, 03:20 PM
tell me a little about this and the history of abkhazia.....particularly who are the ethnic abkhazians
The modern territory of Abkhazia is one of the oldest Georgian territories. It was part of Georgia since the 1st millenium BC.
see the link below:
Map of Georgia in 1st millenium BC (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=931394&postcount=9)
The origins of the Abkhaz people are not clear. The Abkhaz language belongs to the Northwest Caucasian languages group which is distinct from the Kartvelian languages family to which Georgian belongs. Classical sources speak of several tribes dwelling in the region, but their exact identity and location remains controversial. The Abasgoi of the Graeco-Roman authors are sometimes considered as the predecessors of modern-day Abkhaz, but the identification is not universally accepted. The other tribal union - Heniochoi - extended from Colchis into the North Caucasus and was probably ethnically mixed including both proto-Georgian and Abasgian elements.
The integration of various smaller ethnic subgroups into the modern-day Abkhaz people was basically completed by the late 19th century.
...to clearify this situation with a few words I will explain briefly that ethnic Abkhazians are Caucasian people, very similar to Georgians, official language in Abkhazia was always Georgian language through the centuries. Because of many non-clearances with history of Abkhazian people, Russian Empire Special Services artificially integrated many various smaller ethnic subgroups in 19th century to form modern-day Abkhaz people.
Later, at the beginning of 20th century Abkhaz people were given autonomous status by Soviet Union despite the fact that they were in minority in the region and their population was less than 15% of autonomous region which was named as "Abkhazian Autonomous Republic"
In reality Abkhazian Autonomous Republic was slow-action bomb which was planned (by USSR) to explode immediately after Georgia would begin fighting for their independance. And it really happened according to KGB plan and Russian Military Forces involment. :mad2:
Georgius
03-16-2008, 03:48 PM
We are very thankful to European Union, United States of America and Turkey tu support territorial unity of Georgia.
...in addition I would like to say that leader of Abkhazian separatists wasn't given a Turkish Visa as a sign of strong support of Georgia, in its internationally recognized borders.
Support Georgia!
Georgia’s determination to establish and secure its deserved place in the civilized world community and integrate into Euro-Atlantic structures was confronted by Russia’s unceremonious politics, which grossly violate all internationally accepted laws, norms and ethics: Occupation of Georgian territories (Abkhazia and Tskhinvali Region) as well as recent energy supply and economic blockades.
2006 Explosions of Georgia’s main natural gas and electricity supply lines on Russian territory, was followed by import restrictions on Georgian wine, mineral water, citrus and agricultural products imposed by Russian Federation.
It is paradoxical that, same Georgian products which were restricted on a Russian market due to so called "falsification" and "poor quality" even to this day, receive medals and certificates of recognition issued by Russian experts.
Clearly, import restriction imposed on Georgian products is a political maneuver, testaments to which are official resolutions enacted by Russian Duma and statements made by individual Russian politicians.
Please, enter this site and support my country...
http://www.support-georgia.com
Davit
03-16-2008, 07:01 PM
Hello everyone... :)
I am from Georgia and I am newbie here :)
ulster21
03-17-2008, 12:54 PM
Thanks for the info Georgius......one thing I wondered about, why did the Russians fight with Shamil Basayev against Georgia?...I thought Russians & Chechens hated each other?
This is deeply interesting and also so sad to see such death and destruction.
Georgius
03-17-2008, 03:43 PM
ulster21
why did the Russians fight with Shamil Basayev against Georgia?... I thought Russians & Chechens hated each other?
Yes, that's an amazing fact but it is true... Russians and Chechens hate each other but Russian government used everything against Georgia to occupy our territories, including Chechen terrorists and hired warriors.:sad:
Actually, Russian troops had done crime not only against Georgia but also crime against humanity. ...very bad thing happened in Georgia but worse is the fact that Russians continue occupation of our territories until today. Russian troops control our territories and more than 300 000 people still can not go to their homes.
Georgius
03-17-2008, 03:46 PM
Sin
This is deeply interesting and also so sad to see such death and destruction.
Yes, that is very sad...:sad:
And Turkey is helping us in integration towards NATO and supports territorial unity of Georgia in our constitutional borders which are occupied and badly damaged by Russian troops. :mad2:
Sandro1
03-19-2008, 11:35 AM
All of us (Eu and Us ) Shall support Georgia NOW against the Russian terrorists !!!!
the Russians are really terrorizing Georgia and the neighbouring countries overe there, Azerbaijan (chechenia) etc... It is not tolerated, when we know russia has done that for these countries and Georgia for decades now ! their going to far now..
We have to Stop the Russian INVASION !
FR Sloboda
03-20-2008, 07:03 PM
i thought Azerbijan and Russia had good relations over things like oil and their neghbior in Iran.
the Azeris are more concerned about Iran situation - but the conflict can move over you never no
Georgius
04-06-2008, 01:26 PM
Sandro1
All of us (Eu and Us ) Shall support Georgia NOW against the Russian terrorists!!!!
Sure...:sad:
We need help from USA, NATO and EU to stop Russian invasion in our territories and to stop cruel violation of human rights in Autonomous region of Abkhazia and South Ossetia. I hope finally we will ban away Russian soldiers and more than 300,000 Georgians can return to their homes.
Wabbit
04-06-2008, 11:46 PM
Beautiful country! tho they should improve their rugby :D
Georgius
05-04-2008, 09:44 PM
B-rabbit
Beautiful country! tho they should improve their rugby
Georgia is winner of European Nations Cup in Rugby this year. We beat Russians in away match:
Russia 12 - 18 Georgia
We are 14th in World Ranking.
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