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Bosnian Unit
10-18-2007, 08:08 PM
Putin warns US against military action on Iran[/B]


Robert Tait in Tehran, Mark Tran and agencies
Tuesday October 16, 2007



The Russian president, Vladimir Putin, today warned the US not to use force against Iran in the current nuclear dispute.
[B]Any military intervention in the Caspian Sea area would be unacceptable, Mr Putin declared as he attended a five-country regional summit in Tehran.

"We should not even think of making use of force in this region," Mr Putin told his fellow leaders.

http://www.worldpress.org/images/20060620-Ahmadinejad.jpg

His remarks also appeared directed at Azerbaijan, amid Russian media speculation that the US might be trying to negotiate with the republic on the right to use military facilities there, something Azeri officials deny.



"We are saying that no Caspian nation should offer its territory to third powers for use of force or military aggression against any Caspian state," Mr Putin said.

A summit declaration from the five, which include Turkmenistan and Kazakhstan beside Russia, Iran and Azerbaijan, subsequently stressed that "under no circumstances will they allow (the use of their) territories by third countries to launch aggression or other military action against any of the member states".

The first Kremlin leader to visit Iran since Joseph Stalin in 1943, Mr Putin is holding talks with Mahmoud Ahmadinejad, the Iranian president, on Tehran's nuclear dispute with the west during the summit.

The importance of Mr Putin's trip to the Iranian side was clearly illustrated by the presence of Manouchehr Mottaki, Iran's foreign minister, who greeted Mr Putin as he stepped of his plane after it landed at Tehran's Mehrabad airport at around 9am local time (6.30BST).

Leaders from Azerbaijan, Kazakhstan and Turkmenistan were met by lower-level dignitaries.

Mr Putin was later greeted personally by Mr Ahmadinejad, before the start of the summit at the palatial Saad Abad complex in north Tehran, local media reported.

Mr Putin has been accompanied by a retinue of 180 staff, aides and security personnel. A fleet of armoured cars has also been shipped from Russia for his trip.

The Russian leader's arrival had earlier been in doubt after the Russian special security services disclosed on Sunday that they had uncovered a plot to assassinate him in a suicide bomb in the Iranian capital. Iranian officials angrily dismissed the alleged conspiracy as "psychological warfare".

Mr Putin's presence was widely expected to overshadow the official purpose of the conference, which is ostensibly to thrash out disagreements over the sharing of resources in the oil-rich Caspian Sea.

Iran sees the arrival of Mr Putin - who accepted Mr Ahmadinejad's invitation to visit when the pair met at an Asian co-operation summit in Shanghai in August - as a major coup in its efforts to resist western pressure over its nuclear programme, which the US and its allies suspect is aimed at building an atomic bomb.

Russia's veto on the UN security council means its support is vital if Iran is to avoid a third round of sanctions when the body meets next month.

Moscow has criticised US attempts to pressure Tehran through economic sanctions and military threats and has called for greater engagement with Iran.

Last week, Mr Putin angered the US by declaring that there was no "objective evidence" that Iran is trying to develop a nuclear bomb.

However, he has also called on Iran to show greater openness and flexibility over its uranium enrichment programme.

The nuclear issue is not on the summit agenda, but it will be discussed when Mr Putin holds one-on-one meetings with Mr Ahmadinejad and Ayatollah Ali Khamenei, Iran's supreme leader, who has the final say on all state matters.

Despite the official hype, Mr Putin's visit is being treated with scepticism. Russia is mistrusted by many Iranians, who point to a history of hostile relations going back two centuries.

Iran is angry over delays in a £500m contract with Russia to build the Bushehr nuclear power station. Russia has put completion on hold because of alleged late payments by the Iranians. Iran has denied the accusation and believes Russia is merely trying to use the issue to wring concessions over the nuclear programme.

The historic suspicions were reflected in an article today on the reformist No Rouz website, headlined The Second Turkmanchai Is On Its Way, a reference to an 1828 peace treaty in which Iran was forced to cede large swathes of territory in the Caucasus to Russia.

The article claimed Iran was being pressed to accept a "shameful" agreement giving it an 11% share of Caspian resources in a package that would allow Russian nuclear submarines to sail close to the Iranian coast.

Until 1991, Tehran and Moscow had equal shares in the Caspian Sea, but the break-up of the Soviet Union triggered moves to re-allocate resources.

Iran says the resources should be shared equally among the five Caspian states, but Russia believes it should be based on coastal size, giving Tehran a much smaller proportion and depriving it of gas and oil resources.

Opening today's conference, Mr Ahmadinejad ignored such difficulties. "The five countries are all cradles of civilisation and have existed in peace for thousands of years," he said.

devious
10-22-2007, 07:03 PM
I think it`s just the human nature.. war is in our blood.
There will be a war.. but not now, no stronge power is ready for a war in this stage.. maybe everyone is waiting for an error or a mistake from the other party to justify a war.. the subject of war is always there.. cause it`s our nature that the strongest is trying to eliminate the others to increase his strength..
The idea that we all live in peace is just an illusion.. it`s a science fiction and will never happen in our world.. ever.

PAO_HELLAS
10-22-2007, 09:19 PM
http://www.worldpress.org/images/20060620-Ahmadinejad.jpg


Finally a picture of my two favourite political leaders shaking hands. I was waiting much time for such a meeting :).

Pape
10-22-2007, 09:48 PM
Putins' the boss.

Centarfor9
10-22-2007, 10:15 PM
Finally a picture of my two favourite political leaders shaking hands. I was waiting much time for such a meeting :).
:smoking:

they just trying to keep US and A out of their turf

kyiv
10-22-2007, 10:56 PM
Oh I get so excited when the tension between Russia and US heats up :D. I always like to imagine Putin, taking his daily pills and shacking infront of "Nuclear bomb lunch on USA" button.

Bosnian Unit
10-22-2007, 11:10 PM
Finally a picture of my two favourite political leaders shaking hands. I was waiting much time for such a meeting :).

I respect that, but Putin is kind of a powerfull leader of powerfull country.

I kind of like the leaders of small countries who have balls to ***k with big ones......you know what i mean ?

So here is mine :)

http://www.newprophecy.net/Venezuelan_President_Hugo_Chavez_greets__Iranian_President_Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad.jpg


But then Mr. Bush got mad, and he was like if you want to avoid WWIII Iran can not have nuclear weapons. Wow, are you serious Mr.Cowboy ?

He was like i got my friend here, who will help me to get some terrorist action so we can blame it on Ahmedinejad.......just like Saddam Hussein got blamed for 9/11 ( :lol: ) Well no he didnt, but see thats a long story, i didnt want to go after my friend, who helped me to start all these wars, that's why Hussein was a victim ! But you would not understend that since we lay to you by our media every morning, every day every time....so even if is not true YOU BELIVE IT IT, by this time......brainwashing you for 6 years thats a hell of a work people :smoking: !
http://www.pierretristam.com/images/102406-bush-bin-laden.jpg

kyiv
10-23-2007, 12:59 AM
I respect that, but Putin is kind of a powerfull leader of powerfull country.

I kind of like the leaders of small countries who have balls to ***k with big ones......you know what i mean ?

So here is mine :)

http://www.newprophecy.net/Venezuelan_President_Hugo_Chavez_greets__Iranian_President_Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad.jpg




Heck yeah I know what you mean!
If you ***k with the guy on the right, you will get ***ked twice harder! This guy has no time to listen to the bullshit coming out from Texas Cowboy's mouth.

Centarfor9
10-23-2007, 02:40 AM
Oh I get so excited when the tension between Russia and US heats up :D. I always like to imagine Putin, taking his daily pills and shacking infront of "Nuclear bomb lunch on USA" button.
i wouldn't mess with Putin that guy means business

but i am rooting for the Russian Mafia :D

p.s. no i'm not part of it :)

Pape
10-23-2007, 03:12 AM
You like the biggest ally of the Serbs?!?!?! nooooo

I like the Iranian dude so we have something in common after all. :lol:

and Chavez and Castro

Centarfor9
10-23-2007, 03:36 AM
You like the biggest ally of the Serbs?!?!?! nooooo
explain :)

are you now telling people who to like and who to dislike???

Wabbit
10-23-2007, 03:59 AM
To solve the world's problems USA should disappear from the face of the earth

Wooooooooow Im back, missed this :lol:

Pape
10-23-2007, 05:51 AM
explain :)

are you now telling people who to like and who to dislike???

of course not :lol: but i just thought it was funny how people pick and choose who they like, claiming they don't like one group of people for their motives, but than turn around and like a different group with the same motives

thats all!

Centarfor9
10-23-2007, 06:39 AM
of course not :lol: but i just thought it was funny how people pick and choose who they like, claiming they don't like one group of people for their motives, but than turn around and like a different group with the same motives

thats all!
- not to get all metaphysical

you assume way too much

PAO_HELLAS
10-23-2007, 10:53 AM
I respect that, but Putin is kind of a powerfull leader of powerfull country.

I kind of like the leaders of small countries who have balls to ***k with big ones......you know what i mean ?

So here is mine :)

http://www.newprophecy.net/Venezuelan_President_Hugo_Chavez_greets__Iranian_President_Mahmoud_Ahmadinejad.jpg


I also like the bold way Chavez talks against USA and their "New World Order" but sometimes I think he is becoming too populist (with the negative meaning of the word). I have the impression that sometimes he accuses USA not because he fights "New World Order", but because he wants to take people on his side and increase his popularity. Note that the Venezuelan government are part owners of the American petroleum company CITGO. Ahmadinejad on the other side has a vision and concerns about his people. I can be wrong, but this is my personal opinion.

About your comment on Putin. Unfortunately, as things are today, a powerful country is needed to resist to the threat of USA and what they represent (Globalism and New World Order). Resistance from countries like Persia and Venezuela are a hopeful message, but such countries alone are not able to stop USA and and all the whole international globalist "movement", if I can call it like this.

Of course Russia commited atrocities in the past like all the big powers, but they are not even close to USA and the crimes they commit against humanity, and as things are now Russia is the only country that can be compared to USA, the only country that can stop USA. And they HAVE the morals to do it. China and India are also two promising big powers, but they don't have the political, economical and techonological infrastructure of Russia and USA.

To sum up, I believe that if there is a main reason USA did not ruin everything in this World yet, it is Russia. And if there is a hope that the current situation will change to the better, our hopes bank on Russia (with "backup" from smaller countries - now Iran and Venezuela, later they will become more).

I think that Putin is a leader Russia had years to experience, a leader with a political vision and with goals for Russia and the World. The recovery of the Russian prestige is a result of Putin and a proof about his vision, and still they are more things he has to offer.

Saraj Fanático
10-23-2007, 09:41 PM
Putin is such scum its unbelievable. Has terrorist written all over him. And again, Russia is guilty of the same troubles caused in this world as America is.