IX. kolo: Vječiti Derbi: Željezničar i Sarajevo u nedjelju u 15 sati

[Centarfor9]

91. vjeciti derbi izmedju dva najvecih bh. klubova.

[Sarajbahçe]

classic
zeljo has been on fire with that high scoring game recently
and FK Sarajevo are getting back on track
it will be a great game to watch

[FK SARAJEVO]

man sarajevo is going to be tired from the Basel game :(

but there is always that little extra energy specially reserved for Zeljo ;)

[Sarajbahçe]

this game is really important for us as is the Uefa Cup match against Basel
we can make something special with this match
we can go even further if we find that rhythm to beat Basel
and not to forget, zeljo are a dangerous side
we should not take them for granted as they beat a previous team 7:1

[Centarfor9]

Sarajevo was bad against Zepce and Zeljo got smoked by Celik so i'm not sure

although celik scored their goals from out mistakes - sarajevo might try to do the same thing and pressure with forwards since in the back we have problems

i expect a tight game

hopefully lot of people show up and players are able to put on a good game

[Centarfor9]

games are cancelled this week - damn sarajevo is lucky

[Centarfor9]

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Željezničar prijeti istupanjem iz lige

http://www.sportin.ba/SlikeSite/pixel.gifNovom odlukom NS BiH odlučeno je da se 9. kolo Premijer lige ipak mora odigrati predstojeći vikend. http://www.sportin.ba/SlikeSite/pixel.gifNa rasporedu će biti sve utakmice osim susreta između Žepča i Modriče, koji se igra 10. 10., te vječitog derbija između Željezničara i Sarajeva. Termin za ovu utakmicu još nije određen, a iz Saveza su poručili da se derbi mora odigrati do 10. kola.

Utakmica između Žepča i Modriče odgođena je zbog smrti predsjednika NS BiH Milan Jelića, koji je bio ujedno i generalni direktor tvrtke koja je glavni sponzor ovog kluba.

Što se tiče derbija između Željezničara i Sarajeva, tu je situacija nešto kompliciranija...

Kako saznajemo iz dobro upućenih izvora, Sarajevo je uputilo molbu da se utakmica ne igra u nedjelju zbog nastupa bh. prvaka u Kupu UEFA.

Iz Željezničara su odmah uložili žalbu navodeći kako se Sarajevu već drugi put ove sezone traži odgodu, te su naveli kako mnogi europski klubovi nastupaju u Kupu UEFA pa opet igraju prvenstvene utakmice za vikend, neki već u subotu.

Uprava kluba s Grbavice zaprijetila je čak istupanjem iz lige ukoliko se utakmica ne odigra predstojeći vikend.
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100% podzajem klub

prosle sezone sarajevo je sve dobilo cak i titulu ako mene pitate

ali nemoze se to svake godine radit

[Centarfor9]

Željezničar i Sarajevo u nedjelju u 15 sati

Komisija za takmičenje N/FS BiH odlučila je da se vječiti derbi između Željezničara i Sarajeva odigra u nedjelju s početkom u 15 sati. http://www.sportin.ba/SlikeSite/pixel.gifNakon što su nepotrebno iskomplicirali situaciju oko odigravanja 9. kola Premijer lige, čelnici N/FS BiH, odnosno Komisija za takmičenje, utvrdila je termin za odigravanje derbija između Željezničara i Sarajeva.

Podsjetimo, kompletno deveto kolo odgođeno je zbog smrti Milana Jelića. U Savezu su se tek u četvrtak dosjetili da je teško naći termin za naknadno odigravanje, pa su utakmice ipak zakazane za ovaj vikend.

Utakmica između Žepča i Modriče je odgođena za srijedu, dok nije bio točno utvrđen termin odigravanja vječitog derbija. Čelnici Sarajeva tražili su odgodu, dok su iz uprave kluba s Grbavice zahtijevali da se utakmica igra ovaj vikend.

Na sjednici održanoj u subotu u 12 sati, znači samo jedan dan prije sarajevskog derbija, odlučeno je da se utakmica igra u nedjelju. Konačna odluka Saveza da se utakmica igra za vikend je ispravna, ali je nedopustivo da se o ovako važne stvari rješavaju u posljednjem trenutku.

Sigurno je samo da su vodeći ljudi N/FS BiH još jednom cjelokupnoj javnosti pokazali svoju nestručnost i neprofesionalnost.

NI DRZAVE NI VLASTI SVE NISU MOGLE DA TE UGASE, JER STOJIMO PRKOSIMO U SRCIMA TE NASIM NOSIMO!!

[Centarfor9]

Najava - ZELJO - sarajevo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeYyLYfAnFQ)

http://img518.imageshack.us/img518/4679/aagkn9.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/9522/manijaci03zh0.jpg (http://imageshack.us/)

damn we better win :)

[Sarajbahçe]

hahaha tough luck my friend
we are not going down without a fight!
this will be a good match to watch
if we stop Jahic and Dialiba
you guys are toast, we will win the match then
if we don't then it could get ugly!

[Centarfor9]

i'm not sure will we have all our guys there

because we have people playing in the U-21 team

you guys have to stop Jure

i really think he will have a big game

[Sarajbahçe]

yeah one big game!
we won't have our full team either
6 are injured and Almir Turkovic will most probably not come because he is scared of FLYING! lmfao
he goes to Belgium but cant go to Switzerland which is closer! ahha w.e.
we need to get Rascic back into form so he continues his scoring
he hasnt scored in the longest time for us in a critical match
perhaps it will change against Zeljo??

[Centarfor9]

haha scared of flying to come to Grbavica

he can drive lol

[Sarajbahçe]

^ we've heard that one before lol
"ill drive" and then doesnt end up going at all

[Centarfor9]

game ended 0:0

[Centarfor9]

http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/8862/img0035cx5.jpg

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http://manijaci.ba/galerija/data/media/127/DSC03529.jpg

[Saraj Fanático]

Seen the game and it was so boring. Terrible. However I am happy with the Draw. :)

[Sarajbahçe]

Zeljo 0:0 Sarajevo
in Grbavica

not bad score for us to keep it level in their home
even though i expected a win
but when the game comes to OUR HOME, then it should be slaughter!

[Saraj Fanático]

This is good, we are one of the only sides that doesn't get hammered playing away.

[Sarajbahçe]

http://www.fksinfo.com/sadrzaj_slike/nov_zeljo_sarajevo_vel.jpg
Bez pobjednika i bez golova
Danas je na stadionu Grbavica odigran 90. vječiti derbi, u sklopu 9. kola Premijer Lige BiH. Nakon mnogo neizvjesnosti oko odigravanja utakmice, igrači obje ekipe su istrčali na teren, a na tribinama se okupilo oko 10.000 gledalaca, od toga oko 4.000 navijača Sarajeva. Bordo tim je bio bolji tim, imao više loptu u svom posjedu, bolje i zrelije šanse, ali one nisu iskorištene. S druge strane plavi su odigrali slabo, bez ozbiljnijih prilika uprkos najavama da idu po sigurnu pobjedu. Također željeli su iskoristiti krizu u FK Sarajevu, požurivali su sa igranjem meča i pravili tolike scene oko odigravanja... na kraju mogu biti samo sretni jer nisu izgubili i ovaj bod.

[Sarajbahçe]

http://www.fksinfo.com/galerija/data/media/129/79.jpg
ahahahaha FK Sarajevo in their underwear
look at Semjon Milosevic in his speedo's
lmao just wrong!

[Sarajbahçe]

http://www.sportin.ba/tekst.aspx?id=7811
scroll down and there is some highlights of the game
and ofcourse rivalry between the two teams as they almost fought lol
2 ppl started slapping each other and all

[Saraj Fanático]

http://www.fksinfo.com/galerija/data/media/129/79.jpg
ahahahaha FK Sarajevo in their underwear
look at Semjon Milosevic in his speedo's
lmao just wrong!


lol completely not necessary.

[Sarajbahçe]

^ lol good thing Alaim didnt take off his shorts and his shirt off as well
that would just be unecessary for the eyes to anyone!

[Centarfor9]

^ yeah debeli was scared to take off his shirt lol

[Centarfor9]

Nula na Grbavici

90. vječiti derbi završen je remijem. Danas je viđena 'dosadna' utakmica što pokazuje i rezultat 0:0. Možda bi rezultat glasio i drukčije da Hadžija nije postavio kukavički sastav, sa samo jednim napadačem. Da je tu bilo samo malo igre kao iz dosadašnjih utakmica, pobjeda bi bila zagarantovana! Loša igra i totalna defanziva - današnja predstava Plavih.

Sastav koji je istrčao na današnjoj utakmici: Baotić, Kamber, Mulalić, Vugdalić, Spahić, Dudo, Bekrić, Cocalić, Štilić, Jahić i Dialiba. Umjesto Bekrića u drugom poluvremenu je ušao Bešlija. Obojica nisu pokazala ono što su prikazala u dosadašnjim utakmicama... Što se pojedinačnog učinka tiče, citirat ću kolegu s foruma: Baotić bez puno posla. Dva-tri puta je malo letio u prazno, ali se srećom niko nije našao da kazni njegove greške. Imao nekoliko laganih odbrana. Kamber standardno među najboljim i iako je igrao beka, jedine organizovanije akcije su se dešavale kada bi on poveo napad. Mulalić malo nervozan, ali dobar. Vugdalić odličan. Spahić standardno čudan. Prvo majstorski oduzme loptu i taman kada bi ga čovjek pohvalio, on je opet pokloni njima ili je nabije u aut. Igrač koji navijačima oduzima godine života.

Vezni red tanak skroz. Čudno zvuči, ali Dudo je možda i najbolji bio. Cocalić 'nako. Jahić se dosta trudio u prvom dijelu, u drugom tanko. Bekrić ništa posebno, kao ni njegova zamjena u drugom dijelu Bešlija. Štilić jedan od najvećih krivaca što je 0:0. Imao je dva puta odlične prilike za gol, ali umjesto da odmah šutira, on pegla loptu. Džaba njemu sav talenat uz ovu manu. Ovako može protiv Jedinstva, ali inače, ako se toga ne oslobodi, nikad od njega igrač. Dialiba puno trčao, ali ne može čovjek sam igrati pa je ostao bez učinka.

Manijaci, kao i uvijek, u odličnom izdanju. Uz podršku tokom cijelog meča, nije izostala ni bakljada, a zastavice su odlično izgledale.


Željezničar – Sarajevo 0:0

Stadion "Grbavica" u Sarajevu. Gledalaca: 11.000. Sudija: Elmir Pilav (Sarajevo) 7.5. Žuti kartoni: Cocalić, Dudo, Mulalić (Željezničar), Janjoš, Bučan, Hadžić, Šaraba (Sarajevo). Crveni kartoni: Edin Dudo (Željezničar), Muamer Kurto (Sarajevo), oba u 86. minutu.

ŽELJEZNIČAR: Baotić 6.5, Kamber 6, Mulalić 6, Vugdalić 6.5, Spahić 5, Dudo 6, Cocalić 6, Bekrić 6 (od 46. minuta Bešlija 6), Jahić 6, Štilić 6, Dialiba 6. Trener: Enver Hadžiabdić.

SARAJEVO: Alaim 6.5, Muharemović 7, Hadžić 6 (od 58. minuta Šaraba -), Bašić 6.5, Milošević 7, Janjoš 7, Bučan 6.5 (od 90. minuta Hanždić -), Grujić 6.5, Raščić 6.5 (od 84. minuta Mešić -), Kurto 6.5, Turković 7. Trener: Abdulah Oruč.

http://www.fkzeljeznicar.net/index.php?subaction=showfull&id=1191797451&archive=&start_from=&ucat=7&s=vijesti

[Centarfor9]

http://www.fkzeljeznicar.net/galerija/content/Sezona%202007-2008/09.Zeljeznicar%20-%20Sarajevo%200-0/slika08.jpg

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bakljada

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[Centarfor9]

http://www.fkzeljeznicar.net/galerija/content/Sezona%202007-2008/09.Zeljeznicar%20-%20Sarajevo%200-0/slika23.jpg

[Centarfor9]

http://www.fksinfo.com/sadrzaj_slike/nov_zeljo_sarajevo_vel.jpg
Bez pobjednika i bez golova
Danas je na stadionu Grbavica odigran 90. vječiti derbi, u sklopu 9. kola Premijer Lige BiH. Nakon mnogo neizvjesnosti oko odigravanja utakmice, igrači obje ekipe su istrčali na teren, a na tribinama se okupilo oko 10.000 gledalaca, od toga oko 4.000 navijača Sarajeva. Bordo tim je bio bolji tim, imao više loptu u svom posjedu, bolje i zrelije šanse, ali one nisu iskorištene. S druge strane plavi su odigrali slabo, bez ozbiljnijih prilika uprkos najavama da idu po sigurnu pobjedu. Također željeli su iskoristiti krizu u FK Sarajevu, požurivali su sa igranjem meča i pravili tolike scene oko odigravanja... na kraju mogu biti samo sretni jer nisu izgubili i ovaj bod.
haha

sto dobro lazu

[Sarajbahçe]

ahaha im sure zeljo's site says the exact same thing with zeljo
this was the only match that i looked forward to this year
even though we are basically in a shithole position
all we need is 1 win and we will go even closer to making it to europe next year
common if those teams make it to europe next year and zeljo or sarajevo don't.. i will be sooo pissed

[Centarfor9]

ahaha im sure zeljo's site says the exact same thing with zeljo
this was the only match that i looked forward to this year
even though we are basically in a shithole position
all we need is 1 win and we will go even closer to making it to europe next year
common if those teams make it to europe next year and zeljo or sarajevo don't.. i will be sooo pissed
both teams sucked and played defensively

[Centarfor9]

Bolje da se nije ni igralo

http://sportin.ba/SlikeVijesti/zeljo_sarajevo_0710.jpg
Foto: Izo Jahović



Stadion: Grbavica
Gledatelja: 10000
Sudac: Elmir Pilav (Sarajevo)
Žuti kartoni: Cocalić, Dudo (Željezničar), Janjoš, Hadžić (Sarajevo).
Crveni kartoni: Dudo (Željezničar) i Kurto (Sarajevo)

Željezničar: Baotić 5,5, Kamber 5, Vugdalić 6, Mulalić 5, Spahić 5, Cocalić 5,5, Bekrić 5 (od 46. Bešlija 5), Štilić 5, Jahić 5, Dudo 5, Boubacar 5,5.

Trener: Enver Hadžiabdić.

Sarajevo: Alaim -, Muharemović 5,5, Bašić 5,5, Milošević 5,5, Janjoš 6, Hadžić 5 (od 58. Šaraba 5), Turković 6, Kurto 5, Bučan 5 (od 90. Handžić -), Raščić 5 (od 81. Mešić -), Grujić 5.

Trener: Abdulah Oruč

Neizvjesnost oko odigravanja vječitog derbija između Željezničara i Sarajeva prekinuta je tek nekoliko sati prije same utakmice, međutim, s obzirom na to šta su prikazali, odnosno šta nisu, možda bi bilo bolje da se derbi nije ni odigrao.

Prilike za pogotke mogu se nabrojati na prste jedne ruke, a da ostane i neizbrojanih prstiju, a sve vrijedno spomena su međusobna udaranja, zatim prekidi zbog bakljada te dvije prilike Sarajeva, od kojih je ona iz 28. minute prvog duela bila i najizglednija. Tada je Bučan pokušao šutirati, ali tako da je lopta došla do Raščića, koji je izviždan na Grbavici. Nekadašnji napadač Želje uspio se okrenuti, dobro šutirati, a loptu je sa gol crte izbacio Muamer Vugdalić. Deset minuta poslije Kurto je dobro iskosa šutirao, a Baotić odbranio, a inače loši Pilav možda propustio svirati jedanaesterac za goste, nakon što je oboren Raščić. Željo je pred kraj poluvremena imao dvije poluprilike, ali su se najprije Bekrić i Štilić prekombinirali, a zatim i Jahić.

Malo ko je u nastavku očekivao još gori fudbal, s obzirom da se na tribinama mislilo kako ne može gore nego u prvom dijelu. Međutim, akteri vječitog derbija dokazali su da ipak može i zaista im treba na tom čestitati, jer je bezidejnost i jednih i drugih bila prilično nevjerovatna. Tek u finišu bilo je malo napetije, ali samo zato što su se igrači međusobno počeli naguravati. U gužvi su učestvovali Grujić, Vugdalić te Kurto i Dudo, kojima je sudija Pilav pokazao crvene kartone zbog međusobnog guranja.

Malo poslije glavama su se dotakli i Vugdalić i Janjoš, ali ovaj put Pilav se nije uhvatio za džep. Pred kraj susreta Šaraba je sa 18 metara iz slobodnjaka dobro šutirao, a Baotić odbranio, a domaći navijači su zvižducima ispratili trenera Željezničara Envera Hadžiabdića, koji je napravio tek jednu izmjenu. Poslije, na pres konferenciji, Hadžiabdić je priznao da je Sarajevo bilo bolji tim te je za igrača susreta proglasio veterana Turkovića, što najbolje govori kakav se nogomet igrao na Grbavici.

Sa druge strane, za Abdulaha Oruča, koji je vodio Sarajevo, najbolji igrač je bio mladi Janjoš, koji je uspio uštopati Štilića. – piše Oslobođenje (http://www.oslobodjenje.ba/).

[Centarfor9]

svako "misli" da je rezultat bio najrealniji

http://www.megavideo.com/?v=6HBMSWB9

[boris4c]

What has been the average attendance of the Sarajevo Derby in the last few years, 9.000 fans seems like a low figure.

[Centarfor9]

today only celik gets around 14,000 people at the games

[Centarfor9]

What has been the average attendance of the Sarajevo Derby in the last few years, 9.000 fans seems like a low figure.
i would say just over 10,000 in the last three years

Sarajevo had 20,000 last year against Radnik in the last game of the season

[boris4c]

That 20,000 game must've been for the title celebration.

It seems the derby has lost its credibility all over the ex-Yugo republics. Dinamo and Hajduk have just played a derby in front of 15,000 people. Sarajevo derby 9,000. The recently played Belgrade derby was played in front of 35,000 which was a packed Partizan stadium but this is only because the competition between the two teams is very fierce this year. Last year at time, there was around 15,000 at the derby...

[Centarfor9]

^ the news reports say 10,000

but given the garbage play they should be happy if 2,000 people showed up

Serbian league needs that third team i tought it would be OFK but i don't think so - maybe Cukaricki???

in 98 or 97 when bosnia played Greece (in Greece there were around 2,000 fans i think ...something low) can you believe that?

[boris4c]

The Serbian league had Vojvodina last year, who finished only one point behind Partizan, but struggling this year. OFK Beograd is my favorite team after Red Star and I would love to see them become a force in the league, they usually are, but finished 7th last year. Cukaricki, no. Worst team in the league after Bezanija.

Attendance is a very big problem nowadays in our countries and the quality of football is certainly the reason. The infrastructure sucks as well, so when we watch some games, it feels like we're watching some North American high school game played on a shitty field behind some school. Velez's stadium is the worst I think when it comes to infrastructure. I saw some pictures and I was deeply saddened to see where the club finds itself now. Terrible.

Red Star currently has a 17,000 average and it's the highest in the league (...) while Partizan has something like 12,000 more or less. Some teams, like Bezanija, get like 500 fans to a game! I thought Croatia would have the highest attendance of all ex-yu leagues but when I saw 15,000 at the derby I changed my mind.

Next derby: Zvezda vs Partizan in front of 60,000 :)

[Centarfor9]

Croatia probably on average has the higher attandance (there are no teams that have 500 fans at the games lol)

[-Vozdra-]

I think the lack of fans comes down to a few factors. Obviously one is that a lot of people have got bigger things to worry about like putting food on the table. Another thing is the disappointing football that is played. The games that i have watched in the local league have all been very difficult, frustrating and disappointing to watch. There is some very ordinary and unattractive football being played.

When good football starts being played and teams start getting good results thats when the fans will come.

[Sarajbahçe]

^ exactly
like Sarajevo last season was great
when we get superpower teams in the league like Zeljo and Sarajevo and them mostly fighting for the championship just like Red Star and Partizan and Hajduk and Dinamo.. then it will be interesting and people will come especially for the derby
but when its 1 year Zrinjski, then the next year Sarajevo, then the next year Modrica, then the next year Slavija etc. it gets really boring and annoying.. like ***k.. have at least 1 or two big teams in the league that fight for the championship!
because to be honest, people want to see (depending on which sides) teams like Sarajevo, Zeljo, and so on winning the title.. some people from hercegovina obviously want their teams to win as well.. but really who really gives a ***k about Modrica and if they win the championship or Slavija!
i say Sarajevo and Zeljo have the most amount of supporters throughout bosnia and including outside of bosna! and people really want them to win it!