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Gavmundo
09-17-2007, 01:54 PM
Well I have to say I'm surprised. I never thought we'd hear tough talk from France. I'm quite impressed. As for a ground war I think that's out of the question but I wouldn't be surprised if a bombing campaign started in the not so distant future.

A warning by France's foreign minister that the world should prepare for war over Iran's nuclear programme has drawn a furious response in Iranian media.
France was aping the US and its new president had "taken on American skin", the official Iranian news agency said.

On Sunday Foreign Minister Bernard Kouchner said: "We have to prepare for the worst, and the worst is war."

Iran's nuclear programme is to be debated in Vienna, Austria, at the UN nuclear watchdog's annual conference.

Iran denies it is trying to acquire nuclear weapons, and says it only wants nuclear power to generate electricity for civilian purposes.

But it has repeatedly rejected UN demands to give up the enrichment of uranium, which the US and other Western states fear is being diverted to a nuclear weapons project.

'Inflammatory'

Mr Kouchner said negotiations with Iran should continue "right to the end", but that an Iranian nuclear weapon would pose "a real danger for the whole world".

He said a number of large French companies had been asked not to tender for business in Iran.

Iranian official media responded with contempt.

"The occupants of the Elysee (the French presidential palace) have become the executors of the will of the White House and have adopted a tone that is even harder, even more inflammatory and more illogical than that of Washington," it said.

The accepted wisdom in Iran is that the US is too wrapped up in Iraq and Afghanistan to launch another war in the region, says the BBC's Jon Leyne in the capital, Tehran.

Mr Kouchner was visiting Russia on Monday, where he was expected to push for tighter UN sanctions to try to force Iran to give up enrichment.

Russia has a UN Security Council veto over any new sanctions, and its support is seen as vital for any new approach.

But Mr Kouchner said even in the absence of UN action, the European Union should prepare its own sanctions against Iran.

Tougher approach

Iran has warned that any new punishments could push it to stop co-operating with the UN nuclear watchdog, the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA).


Iran says its nuclear programme is peaceful

The IAEA's members meet this week in Austria, with Iran likely to top the agenda.

The director of the organisation, Mohamed ElBaradei, has been criticised in the West over a new deal with Iran to clear up questions about its past nuclear activities.

The US and its allies believe the deal just gives Iran more time, during which they fear it will advance its nuclear programme.

The BBC's diplomatic correspondent Jonathan Marcus says France has changed its approach to world affairs under its new President Nicolas Sarkozy, adopting a harder line on several issues, and seeking to improve relations with the US.

The United States has not ruled out a military attack against Iran to prevent it from acquiring a nuclear weapon.

However, a top general in Iran's elite Revolutionary Guards said any bombing raid on targets in Iran would provoke a tough response.

US positions in neighbouring Iraq and Afghanistan "are within our range", Gen Mohammad Hassan Koussechi told IRNA.

poutismalakas
09-17-2007, 11:54 PM
don't worry France will surrender before they send troops!

valdanito_10
09-18-2007, 01:30 AM
lol.......

Fenerliyim
09-18-2007, 01:39 AM
haha the french are gonna fight, thats a good one. They'll be the first ones to fall if the world goes to war

SiN
09-18-2007, 01:44 AM
Its so sad that it has come to this.

World War 3?

Fenerliyim
09-18-2007, 02:13 AM
honestly i dont understand y iran isnt allowed nuclear weapons, its their right, if isreal gets nuclear weapons than other countries should as well

Centarfor9
09-18-2007, 02:54 AM
Well I have to say I'm surprised. I never thought we'd hear tough talk from France. I'm quite impressed.
:lol: that is what i was about to say

SiN
09-18-2007, 04:07 AM
I agree with Fenerliyim!

shevafan
09-18-2007, 04:30 AM
honestly i dont understand y iran isnt allowed nuclear weapons, its their right, if isreal gets nuclear weapons than other countries should as well
iran is not following many UN rules about aquiring nuclear power. there need to be tests made and other sanctions. nuclear weapons arent like other weapons. if iran developes nuclear power or weapons how does the world know that they will be always kept in the best condition and an accident wont happen? when nuclear accidents happen they dont just affect the one country that it happened in but the whole world. may i remind you that after chernobyl the high radiation winds were detected all the way on the atlantic side of north america.if you wanna ***k with nukes you dont just have to have big balls but brains as well. and a guy with a crazy mind like Ahmadinejad in my opinion should be kept away from nuclear power. i dont even wanna start abouth kim jong il...

poutismalakas
09-18-2007, 08:26 PM
Here is my opinion... Iran has some advanced weapons BUT no where near the tech France, UK and the US has! IF there was a war Iran would do exactly what they did in the Iraq war.. send wave after wave of young people! Is it dangerous for Iran to have Nuclear capablilities? HELL YES! Iran is waging a proxy war on both fronts with the US, now imagine if they can hand over dirty bombs to people who are willing to detonate them....

PAO_HELLAS
09-18-2007, 08:29 PM
I don't think Kouchner is serious. There is something else behind this, a strategy.

Saraj Fanático
09-18-2007, 08:40 PM
Iran isn't at all anymore dangerous or any less dangerous then Israel when Nuclear bombs come up.

poutismalakas
09-18-2007, 08:49 PM
Iran isn't at all anymore dangerous or any less dangerous then Israel when Nuclear bombs come up.
Actually I disagree because I highly doubt that Israel would allow any nuclear device to be "misplaced" where as we now for a fact that Iran is fighting a proxy war with the US in Iraq and Afganistan. Now what would happen Iran "misplaced" a device or 2 and let's say that the device was detonated in high population area say NY city, London, Paris, Soule, Tokyo or LA?

Viking_81
09-18-2007, 08:53 PM
It's just politics and diplomacy, nothing to do with war. Government officials use this kind of language all the time.

Saraj Fanático
09-18-2007, 09:16 PM
Actually I disagree because I highly doubt that Israel would allow any nuclear device to be "misplaced" where as we now for a fact that Iran is fighting a proxy war with the US in Iraq and Afganistan. Now what would happen Iran "misplaced" a device or 2 and let's say that the device was detonated in high population area say NY city, London, Paris, Soule, Tokyo or LA?


Who would Iran give these nukes to? Hezbollah? Please. Maybe the American "Al Qaeda"? Thats actually possible! The fact remains that Iran is making nuclear energy and if they really were so deeply engaged with the US in Iraq and Afghanistan I am 99% sure they would have armed the insurgency up to the point where the war would be long finished. The Israelis might use nukes at any time because after all, if there was no US to back them, I think they would have used them long ago. No reason for any Middle Eastern nation to have them at this time (The whole world shouldn't, but..we are humans). However if the world wants to play that game and Israel is free to do so, Iran should also...even tho I doubt they will ever make them..

Centarfor9
09-18-2007, 09:22 PM
and a guy with a crazy mind like Ahmadinejad in my opinion should be kept away from nuclear power. i dont even wanna start abouth kim jong il...
you need to stand up when you talk about that guy - show some respect :)

http://images.worldcupblog.org/ira/P_Team_Melli_Ahmadinejad_16.jpg

FR Sloboda
09-21-2007, 11:03 PM
bosnia should get nuclear weapons too lol

IM BEING SERIOS

shevafan
09-21-2007, 11:15 PM
you need to stand up when you talk about that guy - show some respect :)

http://images.worldcupblog.org/ira/P_Team_Melli_Ahmadinejad_16.jpg
lol everyone around him si like his body guard =)

Centarfor9
09-22-2007, 12:14 AM
lol everyone around him si like his body guard =)
yeah sure :boo: :)

poutismalakas
09-22-2007, 12:14 AM
screw that troll!!!

Centarfor9
09-22-2007, 12:17 AM
^ watch ur mouth fella :)

Centarfor9
09-22-2007, 12:18 AM
bosnia should get nuclear weapons too lol

IM BEING SERIOS
:faint2:

yeah sure why not? :faint2: :faint2: :faint2:

i can name million and one thing we need to get before we get nukes

poutismalakas
09-22-2007, 12:19 AM
NO SCREW THE IRANIAN pres!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


:D

ZabbaZibba
09-22-2007, 12:57 AM
I think IRAN deservs to have NUkes....Thats why we're gonna gonna let them have some Express Air Mail delivery.

Centarfor9
09-22-2007, 01:13 AM
^ if that happens we have WW3 :)

and i'm sure there would be "some Express Air Mail delivery" where you live :)

Sarajbahçe
09-22-2007, 09:35 AM
Why do we need France on our side against Hussein and Osama?

So the French can show them how to surrender.

ahahahahaha that joke always cracks me up! :)

Sarajbahçe
09-22-2007, 09:45 AM
France War History

1 - Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2,000
years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.

2 - Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by a female schizophrenic
who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare: "French armies
are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."

3 - Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever
lose two wars when fighting Italians.

4 - Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots.

5 - Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant but still
manages to get invaded. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other
participants started ignoring her.

6 - War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as
chapeaux.

7 - The Dutch War - Tied. Dutch farmers and tulip growers are tougher
than they look.

8 - War of the Augsburg League/King William's War/French and Indian War -
Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Francophiles
the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.

9 - War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French
their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.

10 - American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to
future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw
far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to
the Second Rule of French Warfare; " France only wins when America does most
of the fighting."

11 - French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was
also French.

12 - The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First
Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for the
Russian winter, Prussian grenadiers or a British footwear designer.

13 - The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. For the first, but certainly not the
last time, Germany plays the role of drunk frat boy to France 's ugly girl
home alone on a Saturday night.

14 - World War I - Invaded, humiliated and on the way to losing, France is
saved by the United States. Winds up a tie for les francaise. Thousands of
French women find out what it's like to not only sleep with a winner, but
one who doesn't call her "Fraulein." Sadly, the American fascination with
personal hygiene (a fascination totally foreign to French women) incites
widespread use of condoms by American soldiers, thus precluding any
improvement in the French bloodline.

15 - World War II - A decisive defeat even by French standards. Hitler and
the German Youth spend Christmas time sleeping soundly through the winter,
then arouse themselves to conquer France in six weeks. Hitler dances in
front of the Eiffel Tower, while the French command staff retreats to
Algeria to institute a crash language program to teach French privates how
to say "I surrender" in German and French generals to say "We surrender" in
German. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as
they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song and some small portion of the
German work ethic. De Gaulle of it all...

16 - First Vietnamese war (in Vietnamese circles, known as "the scrimmage",
or "the exhibition game" where the varsity squad is kept on the sideline to
see how the second string will play) - Lost. French soldiers, fresh off
their four year occupation by the Germans, catch a terminal case of Dien
Bien Flu.

17 - Algerian rebellion - Lost. First time an Arab army has beaten a
Western army since the Crusades, and produces the first rule of modern
Islamic warfare: "We can always beat the French." A nice phrase, but it
lacks something in originality, since it is also the first rule of warfare
for the Italians, Russians, Prussians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish,
Vietnamese, Native Americans and capitalists.

18 - War on Terrorism - Lost. Incensed at not being included in the
original "Axis of Evil," France refuses to participate. When it becomes
clear that this is a "no-kidding war," Jacques Chirac looks at his cards and
immediately surrenders to that old warhorse, Gerhard Schroeder. For good
measure, he also surrenders to five million illegal immigrants from Algeria.

Saraj Fanático
09-22-2007, 06:14 PM
Ahmadinejad is an good President. Surely now someone will say 'But he said!!....' and that nonsense. I don't even know why the entire world is so after him for so many misunderstood comments. First off, when the guy says Israel should be whipped off the map he meant that comment for Zionism and Zionism only. Now all the media's are going crazy saying how he will nuke Israel and that BS. He like much of the world has grown sick of Zionism. Thats his view. And even I think that Zionists have caused most of the trouble today in this world. Anyways, when he says getting rid of Israel he doesn't mean to kill off Jews or to destroy Israel. He talks about the Zionists who run it.

Also, nuking Israel would mean the end of Iran also. Israel is home to Jerusalem and more then 16.2% of the nation are Muslims (Largest minority). Not to even mention the many holy sites Muslims have which are currently in the State also. So using any bombs of a caliber such as a Nuclear Bomb on Israel would hurt Iran's reputation and lead to attacks from Sunnis. So these idiots such as Bush and apparently nearly all of the European Politicians have to get rid of this nonsense idea that Iran will bury Israel.

Now there are those politicians that keep attacking and bashing iran for their policies and society management. I constantly hear of how Iran as a Islamic Republic might spread its ways to others and how such republics shouldn't be present in this already screwed up world of ours. There are so many hypocrites running around its unbelievable! Iran is looked down on for having a Islamic Republic yet when Zionist leaders such as Olmert who says that they want a Jewish state (Considering that Palestinians might be moving into Jewish cities and towns) its all alright. The media is fine with it and the world is just finding those comments tolerant.

Another thing that just makes me laugh which refers also to the comment above is Israel's ways of keeping it a mainly Jewish dominated state. People ask why can't the Palestinians just move on after having Gaza the West bank to turn to? Why must they still resist? Israel for the past years has been keeping Muslims out from crossing into Israel no matter who they are. They don't want a Muslim to step foot on the land he walked on and lived before. As some Palestinians said, they want to have the freedom to come back to their former land. Why can't they have the freedom to do that? Everyone will tell you 'No No No! They will use that to their advantage and attack deep inside Israel!', I am sorry for asking but isn't that a stereotype comment? Its always tolerated if its for the good of Israel huh? So Palestinians in the eyes of others are all Terrorists at this point. This is why there won't ever be peace down there. Politicians can talk all day and night, yet they fail to even go near the Palestinian point of view. And until they do we will continue to see this behavior from other Islamic dominated nations such as Iran.

And finally, the Holocaust comments made by Ahmadinejad. Oh how crazy we all went after that. The world shut down once he said that. Again, the Politicians completely took it out of context and used it to feed the propaganda they are using against Iran. The man said that its a myth and there are many ways you can see that as being. You can think that the idea of 6 million being killed is not true, it was staged in order for Israel to exist, or you can think its a comment stating that it never existed. Which ever way, he has expressed his own freedom of speech. The same Freedom of Speech everyone defended when the Muhammad Cartoons were brought up. So why can't he share his thinking about it? When Karadzic once stated that the time of Muslims in Bosnia Herzegovina might come to an end everyone was fine with it. There was no Europe to bring this comment up to the Western world and find it as a disaster waiting to happen. They knew he even had the military to do it. Yet Mahmoud Ahmadinejad cannot state this? An Opinion? How about US presidential candidate Tom Tancredo's comments about attacking Mecca and Medina if the US gets nuked? Nobody went crazy over it. Hell he is still in the running! Even though he has a slim chance of getting elected. But there is always that 'what if'. Yet the US Government has just accepted his insane idea as his opinion and moved on. So why shouldn't Muslim states question the insane politicians in the US? Since when has that turned into something crazy?


Anyways, I have said the truth. The West is run by hypocrites and it won't ever change. Its completely is ludicrous. Nukes shouldn't even exist but Iran has the right to bare Nukes if Israel can too. Saudi Arabia should perhaps also about right now? :)

Pape
09-25-2007, 02:39 AM
pew pew pew the French are comming!

isnt France like 25% Muslim now? they are about to have a civil war haha

pew pew pew

mount some freaking laser beams on their foreheads

zidane with a laser beamm ahhhh imagine that

pew pew pew materazzi dieeeeee catholic

Bosnian Unit
09-25-2007, 09:11 PM
^ if that happens we have WW3 :)

and i'm sure there would be "some Express Air Mail delivery" where you live :)

Unlike Bush who was in Australia few weeks ago and called them Austrians, Ahmedinejad is very smart man.

Also Nuclear Iran means stability and peace, in other words military balance.

USA would invide Russia back then if both didnt have nuclear weapons. In this case you cant ***k somebody else and dont get ***ked too.

Pakistan & India both nuclear powers and enemys, but still stable becouse they both know if they start something there will be DESTRUCTION ON BOTH SIDES.
USA will never attack N.Korea becouse they have nuclear weapons......also USA would never attack Iraq if they had it......and USA will never attack Iran if they get it.

Nuclear weapons today means stability and peace, big powers will not ***k with you that easy.......thats why they dont want Iran to have it becouse they could not ***k with them.

Iran of course would never use it if they have it, Iran has never attacked anybody in MODERN HISTORY...unlike some nuclear powers like Israel for example who is doing same thing to Palestinians what Hitler did to them. Basicly Gaza is biggest CONTERCATION CAMP in the world...AUSWITZ was little baby for GAZA.

Also Iranians where terorized by Saddam Hussein for 8 years......and guess what America was supporting Hussein back then......They didnt care why he was killing hundreds of thousands of Iranians and gassing them.

I also hate how they always show Iranian women like this :

http://www.worldtrek.org/odyssey/mideast/current/images/women_bg.jpg

But not like this, who most of them are......
http://www.diversetraveller.com/images/articles/47/iran_girl.jpg


Mr. Mahmoud Ahmedinejad looks bad just in Western eyes, becouse of Zionist controled media. But he is the just normal president in the rest of the world but one of those who doesnt lett anybody ***k with him or his country like Hugo Chavez and Fidel Castro for example. They are legends for me, i wish Bosnia had one like that.

Americans are going to Cuba, becouse they have better healthcare system there, while in America they have technology and everything but after couple of weeks in hospital YOU GO BANKRUPT......but still in American media Cuba is just third world poor country with a dictator.Yea right..........screw American freedom and power.

Yea i almost forgot, only one who has used buclear weapons was America...when its FREEDOM BOBMS DESTROYED TWO JAPANESE CITIES TO THE GROUND. You still have children being born unhealty becouse of that.

Centarfor9
09-25-2007, 11:41 PM
^ thanks for expanding on my post ... i guess but i don't agree with some of the stuff - only with the fact that it will be mutual destruction (if sides chose to self-destruct)

and what's wrong with these women???
http://www.worldtrek.org/odyssey/mideast/current/images/women_bg.jpg

Why are these with dogs better?
http://www.diversetraveller.com/images/articles/47/iran_girl.jpg

:rolleyes:


:boo:

Bosnian Unit
09-26-2007, 08:40 PM
Im not saying who is better and who is not, all i said was how they always show them in one way, wich in this case have negative opinion in Western world.

But when it comes to women i have something for them :)

http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/euro_vs_america.jpg

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 08:52 PM
Im not saying who is better and who is not, all i said was how they always show them in one way, wich in this case have negative opinion in Western world.

But when it comes to women i have something for them :)

http://newmedia.funnyjunk.com/pictures/euro_vs_america.jpg
:rolleyes:

so what americans have to do now to respond to your post???

post a european women mustache or something???

i've been to both places and both have ugly ones and the good lookng ones

ease up with the provocations

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 08:59 PM
dude it's B-Unit you should know by now he posts provacotive post about the US!

But I agree with you ALL people have some BUTT UGLY women and some HOT women!

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 09:01 PM
^ thanks for expanding on my post ... i guess but i don't agree with some of the stuff - only with the fact that it will be mutual destruction (if sides chose to self-destruct)

and what's wrong with these women???
http://www.worldtrek.org/odyssey/mideast/current/images/women_bg.jpg:

Well for one all those women don't look to happy

Why are these with dogs better?
http://www.diversetraveller.com/images/articles/47/iran_girl.jpg


These women are dressing in modern clothes/while wearing scarfs and look to be happy

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 09:08 PM
Didn’t mama teach you that looks can be deceiving?

Well for one all those women don't look to happy
look unhappy about what?


These women are dressing in modern clothes/while wearing scarfs and look to be happy
look happy about what?

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 09:23 PM
look at there faces BUD ;)

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 09:27 PM
I SEE THE FACE OF AVATAR ALSO BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION bud :D

try again Pout (you can do it i know you can)


my previous post ( #36 (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=881405&postcount=36) )

Didn’t mama teach you that looks can be deceiving?



Well for one all those women don't look to happy

look unhappy about what?



These women are dressing in modern clothes/while wearing scarfs and look to be happy

look happy about what?

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 09:33 PM
I SEE THE FACE OF AVATAR ALSO BUT THAT DOESN'T ANSWER MY QUESTION bud :D

try again Pout (you can do it i know you can)


my previous post ( #36 (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=881405&postcount=36) )

Didn’t mama teach you that looks can be deceiving?




look unhappy about what?



These women are dressing in modern clothes/while wearing scarfs and look to be happy

look happy about what?[/QUOTE]
Well for one It look like the women in black look like they are scared shitless while the other women seem to be having a nice time! I can only assume that the women in black are very conservative or live in a very conservative nation while the others are not so conservative while still being modest. Does that answer your question!

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 09:43 PM
Well for one It look like the women in black look like they are scared shitless while the other women seem to be having a nice time!
it seems you don't want to answer my question

it's pretty straight forward as your answer :)

I can only assume that the women in black are very conservative or live in a very conservative nation while the others are not so conservative while still being modest. Does that answer your question!
they live in the same nation (i assume - if not that iran has only ones from picture #2 or #1)

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 10:29 PM
dude what answer do you want/expect from me?!!

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 10:35 PM
dude what answer do you want/expect from me?!!
they "look happy/unhappy about what?"

it could be that women from pic #1 are unhappy about some dude taking their picture (if in fact they are unhappy)

and it could be that women from pic #2 are happy about walking a dog (if in fact they are happy)

that type of answer

Panathinaikos2
09-26-2007, 10:41 PM
dude what answer do you want/expect from me?!!Don't you know Stace by now? Stace always wants an answer for everything! :lol:

Bosnian Unit
09-26-2007, 10:56 PM
Happy not happy.........:lol:

Come on......

Btw i was not provoking anybody, its just the truth....Yea in Europe you have some fat women but majority is normal comparing to majority of Americans who are fat.

Their way of life make them fat of course making money on them like that, and then they tell them how they need to losse weight by bunch of products that they need to spend their money on wich are not gonna work at the end of the day. And then again there is always gym, but that doesnt work either, you just spend your money again.

Its not hard to run society for presidents like Bush when most of his people doesnt even know how many states its country has, not to mention what they think about some Iraqi and Afghan people and where they are.



And here is the view of younger generations of Americans !

During the Final Question round, Aimee Teegarden asked Miss Teen South Carolina, Lauren Caitlin Upton, why she thought a fifth of Americans are unable to locate the United States on a world map. Upton's response was:

"I personally believe that, U.S. Americans are unable to do so, because some… people out there in our nation that don’t have maps, and I believe that our education, like such as in South Africa and the Iraq, everywhere like such as, and I believe that they should… our education over here in the U.S., should help the U.S., er, should help South Africa and should help the Iraq and the Asian countries so we will be able to build up our future.., for our children...


Yea did i forget to mention when Bush was in Australia few weeks ago he called them AUSTRIANS:lol: ......

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 10:58 PM
Have you been to the states bud! Usually Americans are lighter when they are young and they tned to gain weight as they get into their late 20's to mid 30's just like everyone else!

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 10:59 PM
I know where Austria is and where Iraq is and Im American ;)

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 11:06 PM
Usually Americans are lighter when they are young and they tned to gain weight as they get into their late 20's to mid 30's just like everyone else!
i wouldn't agree with that

Bosnian Unit
09-26-2007, 11:08 PM
I know where Austria is and where Iraq is and Im American ;)

You are a Greek :smoking: !

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 11:13 PM
Greek AMERICAN!!! Some Greeks wouldrefuse to call me Greek since I was born in the States

Also Stace maybe where you at people are fat BUT out here in Cali people tend to be lighter in weight

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 11:15 PM
Also Stace maybe where you at people are fat BUT out here in Cali people tend to be lighter in weight
i was talking about the states as a whole

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 11:17 PM
the states as whole includes young and old! Old tend to gain weight easier than the young due to excerise, matabolism, etc. Im talking about the young cause both pics where of youger women

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 11:21 PM
the states as whole includes young and old! Old tend to gain weight easier than the young due to excerise, matabolism, etc. Im talking about the young cause both pics where of youger women
:laugh:

i was talking about the young

this country has most obese and fat kids in the world

i wouldn't be surprised if USA had more fat and obese kids than the entire europe

Bosnian Unit
09-26-2007, 11:22 PM
Greek AMERICAN!!! Some Greeks wouldrefuse to call me Greek since I was born in the States

Also Stace maybe where you at people are fat BUT out here in Cali people tend to be lighter in weight

I would agree on that one simply becouse majority of population there is Mexican/Latinos and Chinese :) !

Of course majority of them are short and cant be fat, i mean they can but not like fat fat you know what i mean :lol: !

Bosnian Unit
09-26-2007, 11:27 PM
Well im out of here, you all have a good night/day whatever :smoking: !

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 11:30 PM
I would agree on that one simply becouse majority of population there is Mexican/Latinos and Chinese :) !

Of course majority of them are short and cant be fat, i mean they can but not like fat fat you know what i mean :lol: !
actually the fatest ones are the Mexicans!

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 11:32 PM
actually the fatest ones are the Mexicans!
strange comment

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 11:36 PM
strange comment
strange BUT true;) Most white people here are the surfers and swimmers

Centarfor9
09-26-2007, 11:38 PM
strange BUT true;) Most white people here are the surfers and swimmers
you talkin about san diego i assume

also aren't they american just like you are :)

Panathinaikos2
09-26-2007, 11:42 PM
you talkin about san diego i assume

also aren't they american just like you are :)Poutismalakas is a Greek.

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 11:49 PM
yes I am but I was born in and raised in San Diego so that makes me American of Greek decent or Greek-American

poutismalakas
09-26-2007, 11:52 PM
you talkin about san diego i assume

also aren't they american just like you are :)
I never denied that alot of them are Americans;)

My sister-in-law is mexican she is now fat here whole family is fat except for her Dad who works construction along with being a Good Christian WHO LOVES HIS NEIGHBORS! (inside joke) All most Mexican friends are fat but where thin before they got married ALL my Greeks friends are Thin eve atfer they got married cause they are more active. MOst my white friends are thin even after they got married. I don't think it is about ethnicity but more about lifestyle!!!!

Panathinaikos2
09-26-2007, 11:54 PM
yes I am but I was born in and raised in San Diego so that makes me American of Greek decent or Greek-AmericanIn my eyes you are a Greek ;)

Centarfor9
09-27-2007, 12:09 AM
I never denied that alot of them are Americans;)

My sister-in-law is mexican she is now fat here whole family is fat except for her Dad who works construction along with being a Good Christian WHO LOVES HIS NEIGHBORS! (inside joke) All most Mexican friends are fat but where thin before they got married ALL my Greeks friends are Thin eve atfer they got married cause they are more active. MOst my white friends are thin even after they got married. I don't think it is about ethnicity but more about lifestyle!!!!
i think it's the american food but i guess fast food stuff

el Turco
09-27-2007, 12:16 AM
You guys waay off-topic.

Speaking of Ahmedinejad,

Why doesnt US like him? Is it because he denied Holocaust? Is it because he thinks there are some secret, powerful resources behind Al-Qaida? Or is it because he is against Israel, and all of the ethnic cleansing they do in the Middle East?

And btw, wasnt that the same America that executed Saddam, because he fought against his oppositions, and couldnt stand to listen their opinions? :rolleyes:

poutismalakas
09-27-2007, 12:22 AM
You guys waay off-topic.

Speaking of Ahmedinejad,

Why doesnt US like him? Is it because he denied Holocaust? Is it because he thinks there are some secret, powerful resources behind Al-Qaida? Or is it because he is against Israel, and all of the ethnic cleansing they do in the Middle East?

And btw, wasnt that the same America that executed Saddam, because he fought against his oppositions, and couldnt stand to listen their opinions? :rolleyes:
The US doesn;t like him for many reasons. The main one I think is that he is interferring in Iraq, Fighting a proxy war with the US in both Iraq and Afganistan.

But I think the real reason isthat the Big Dog ie the US doesn't want to lose what make it's economy go cheap resources. Just like Rome before who would go to war with people it felt threaten their place in the world???

el Turco
09-27-2007, 01:51 AM
But I think the real reason isthat the Big Dog ie the US doesn't want to lose what make it's economy go cheap resources. Just like Rome before who would go to war with people it felt threaten their place in the world???

Exactly, US is kind of scared of Iran. They dont want any other countries to have enough power to go against them. :)

poutismalakas
09-27-2007, 04:52 PM
Exactly, US is kind of scared of Iran. They dont want any other countries to have enough power to go against them. :)
I don't think scared? I think it is more of a nip it in the bud mentality? NKorea is selling tech to anyone and the US doesn't want Iran to do the same!

Bosnian Unit
09-27-2007, 05:38 PM
The US doesn;t like him for many reasons. The main one I think is that he is interferring in Iraq, Fighting a proxy war with the US in both Iraq and Afganistan.

But I think the real reason isthat the Big Dog ie the US doesn't want to lose what make it's economy go cheap resources. Just like Rome before who would go to war with people it felt threaten their place in the world???

I agree on some things.

Also USA and Iran allready fought. It was officialy Israel & Hezbollah but behaind close doors, it was Iranian weapons and tactics against American.

Sometimes i understand why US is ***king everyone in the world, probably China,Russia would do the same thing. UK & France are allready doing the same thing.

But one thing i hate about them most is for example, saying how Hamas & Hezbollah are terrorists. And there is only US,UK,Israel and Australian government who see them that way officialy.

Everyone in the world think they are not.And i think they are not since most of their people voted for them, so why would i care let them choose who they want to.

In this case USA doesnt respect democracy and freedom of rights.

Like Ahmedinejad said, Iranians where/are victims of terrorism, but Americans are saying how Iranians are terrorists. For what reason ? Why are Saud Arabians not terrorists since 15 guys on 9/11 where theirs ?

For example USA was supporting Saddam Hussein on his 8 year war on Iran. USA didnt have problem then with Hussein while he was killing hundreds of thousands and gassing them..

In modern history Iran never attacked anybody......and for me Nuclear Iran means stability and military balance. Nobady would ***k with them, becouse they knew they will get ***ked too if they start something.

As for executions in Iran, well US have death penalties too, electric chair etc..

As for everything else Ahmedinejad is smarter and way more inteligent then cowboy Bush.

Another thing, US needs someone to balame on their everyday defeat in Iraq.
In this case they are saying how Iran is helping Iraqis....well UK,Australia, Virgin Islands,Antiqua & Barbuda are helping USA so what is their problem :smoking: !?

They better not provoke Iran becouse 60% or population in Iraq are Shi'as....and if they cant handle minority of Sunis who are fighting them how in the world they would handle Shi'as in Iraq and Iran ?

Moqtada Al Sadr and some Shi'as milita was figthing them and you know how Americans dont talk to terrorists...well they are not terrorists for me but in American eyes they are, they did talk to them so there can be peace with Shi'as becouse Americans would lose big time if they fight them, THEY KNEW THAT.

Saraj Fanático
09-27-2007, 09:49 PM
US is in deep crap at the moment. The Iraq war has went from 'Having great oil' to possible failure. Because Iran knows that the US cannot make a move while the oil is in Iraqi lands. Israel has gone crazy and Europe is confused. There are 2 options now..

1. Let Iran go about its own business (US reputation of dominance is officially gone)

2. Attack Iran (Worst option for all people) and have Iraq crashing down and possibly another or maybe worser Vietnam.

Toke-E-Yo
09-27-2007, 10:54 PM
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we all know its gonna happen.

Toke-E-Yo
09-27-2007, 10:54 PM
lol jokin.

Toke-E-Yo
09-27-2007, 10:54 PM
or am i....

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poutismalakas
09-27-2007, 11:24 PM
i doubt few people will care about that ? ;)

valdanito_10
09-28-2007, 12:24 AM
hey careful, i have a french girlfriend

Saraj Fanático
10-01-2007, 10:36 PM
French girls are hot. :)...