Norway vs Hellas

[PAO_HELLAS]

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EURO 2008 qualifiers
September 12
Uleval stadium, Oslo
20:00 (Greek time)


Our NT will leave for Oslo on September 10. The squad was announced today: Nikopolidis, Chalkias, Vintra, Dellas, Goumas, Spiropoulos, Torosidis, Patsatzoglou, Antzas, Tziolis, Salpingidis, Limberopoulos, Kapsis, Karagounis, Seitaridis, Basinas, Katsouranis, Kyrgiakos, Amanatidis, Gekas, Samaras.

[plato-ny]

Amanatidis ready for Norway trip

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Eintracht Frankfurt striker Ioannis Amanatidis has been recalled to the Greece squad to face Norway in UEFA EURO 2008™ qualifying Group C on 12 September after recovering from injury.

Papadopoulos omission

Amanatidis's gain is Dimitrios Papadopoulos's loss, however, as the Panathinaikos forward who played in the 3-2 friendly defeat at home to Spain ten days ago has been left out of the 20-man squad. Coach Otto Rehhagel's has also overlooked Angelos Charisteas as the striker is struggling with a thigh injury, while, after picking up an injury while playing for APOEL FC in a pre-season friendly against Doxa Katokopia FC, centre-back Mihalis Kapsis is another injured absentee.

Giannakopoulos missing

Stylianos Giannakopoulos is also out after having been has been sidelined ever since undergoing groin surgery in late July. After seven matches Greece lead their group with 18 points, having suffered just one defeat, while Bosnia, Norway and Turkey trail on 13 points, though the latter have a game in hand.

Greece squad
Goalkeepers: Antonios Nikopolidis (Olympiacos CFP), Konstantinos Chalkias (Aris Thessaloniki FC).

Defenders: Giourkas Seitaridis (Club Atlético de Madrid), Sotirios Kyrgiakos (Eintracht Frankfurt), Traianos Dellas (AE Athens FC), Nikolaos Spyropoulos (Panionios GS), Loukas Vintra (Panathinaikos FC), Ioannis Goumas (Panathinaikos FC), Vassilios Torosidis (Olympiacos CFP), Paraskevas Antzas (Olympiacos CFP), Christos Patsatzoglou (Olympiacos CFP).

Midfielders: Angelos Basinas (RCD Mallorca), Georgios Karagounis (Panathinaikos FC), Alexandros Tziolis (Panathinaikos FC), Konstantinos Katsouranis (SL Benfica).

Forwards: Dimitrios Salpingidis (Panathinaikos FC), Nikolaos Lyberopoulos (AEK Athens FC), Theofanis Gekas (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Georgios Samaras (Manchester City FC), Ioannis Amanatidis (Eintracht Frankfurt).

[OCFP]

A win or even a draw and i believe we have our tickets for euro 08, were well DEFEND our crown. Good Luck boys.

[OCFP]

Amanatidis ready for Norway trip

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Eintracht Frankfurt striker Ioannis Amanatidis has been recalled to the Greece squad to face Norway in UEFA EURO 2008™ qualifying Group C on 12 September after recovering from injury.

Papadopoulos omission

Amanatidis's gain is Dimitrios Papadopoulos's loss, however, as the Panathinaikos forward who played in the 3-2 friendly defeat at home to Spain ten days ago has been left out of the 20-man squad. Coach Otto Rehhagel's has also overlooked Angelos Charisteas as the striker is struggling with a thigh injury, while, after picking up an injury while playing for APOEL FC in a pre-season friendly against Doxa Katokopia FC, centre-back Mihalis Kapsis is another injured absentee.

Giannakopoulos missing

Stylianos Giannakopoulos is also out after having been has been sidelined ever since undergoing groin surgery in late July. After seven matches Greece lead their group with 18 points, having suffered just one defeat, while Bosnia, Norway and Turkey trail on 13 points, though the latter have a game in hand.

Greece squad
Goalkeepers: Antonios Nikopolidis (Olympiacos CFP), Konstantinos Chalkias (Aris Thessaloniki FC).

Defenders: Giourkas Seitaridis (Club Atlético de Madrid), Sotirios Kyrgiakos (Eintracht Frankfurt), Traianos Dellas (AE Athens FC), Nikolaos Spyropoulos (Panionios GS), Loukas Vintra (Panathinaikos FC), Ioannis Goumas (Panathinaikos FC), Vassilios Torosidis (Olympiacos CFP), Paraskevas Antzas (Olympiacos CFP), Christos Patsatzoglou (Olympiacos CFP).

Midfielders: Angelos Basinas (RCD Mallorca), Georgios Karagounis (Panathinaikos FC), Alexandros Tziolis (Panathinaikos FC), Konstantinos Katsouranis (SL Benfica).

Forwards: Dimitrios Salpingidis (Panathinaikos FC), Nikolaos Lyberopoulos (AEK Athens FC), Theofanis Gekas (Bayer 04 Leverkusen), Georgios Samaras (Manchester City FC), Ioannis Amanatidis (Eintracht Frankfurt).


-----------Xalkias
Giourkas-Kyriakos-Antzas-Patsa
Basinas-Karagounis-Katsouranis
Gekas-Amanatidis-Lyberopoulos

My starting 11. We have a big problem in the middle. Patsa, torosidis and spiropoulo can play it but its not there position. Why doesnt he call up Ninis(coming from a Gavro). And he likes bringing Lyberopoulos of the bench for a spark but he cant bc of Charisteas injury.

[plato-ny]

A win or even a draw and i believe we have our tickets for euro 08, were well DEFEND our crown. Good Luck boys.

Even a win would not give us a ticket to Euro 2008. A home loss to Bosnia, assuming Bosnia doesnt blow any points up until that match, could give us problems because Bosnia has a more favorable schedule than we do.

Oh, Kapsis, Charisteas, Giannakopoulos, and Spyropoulos wont play due to injury.

[OCFP]

Even a win would not give us a ticket to Euro 2008. A home loss to Bosnia, assuming Bosnia doesnt blow any points up until that match, could give us problems because Bosnia has a more favorable schedule than we do.

Oh, Kapsis, Charisteas, Giannakopoulos, and Spyropoulos wont play due to injury.

In my opinion if we win against Norway were in. Bosnia is not going to win in Athens even if we spot them 4 goals, and if they do win they are not winning outright.

[plato-ny]

In my opinion if we win against Norway were in. Bosnia is not going to win in Athens even if we spot them 4 goals, and if they do win they are not winning outright.

Bosnia won in Norway and beat Turkey at home. They've been better since the Greece match. Dont underestimate them...

[FK SARAJEVO]

In my opinion if we win against Norway were in. Bosnia is not going to win in Athens even if we spot them 4 goals, and if they do win they are not winning outright.


buddy, the bosnia you played in 2006 and the Bosnian squad today is like comparing night and day.

i really hope Norway wins, that could mean bosnia will be at the first place on Sept. 12.

[plato-ny]

Otto called up Fyssas and Anatolakis???

[Saraj Fanático]

It will be a nasty night for Hellas on the 12th. Norway is a giant in Oslo. Their recent results show that.

It will be a hard game for both teams but Norway isn't blowing any chances no more.

[poutismalakas]

what will you say if your wrong?

[OCFP]

Im not trying to insult any1 but i dont thing Bosnia stands a chance against us in Greece.

[FK SARAJEVO]

Im not trying to insult any1 but i dont thing Bosnia stands a chance against us in Greece.

We'll wait and see, i just hope the Greek coach and player underestimate us like yourself. Muslimovic might have a little surpise for you :D

[OCFP]

We'll wait and see, i just hope the Greek coach and player underestimate us like yourself. Muslimovic might have a little surpise for you :D

And Gekas will have a few more for u guys. :lol: :lol: :lol:

[plato-ny]

Εθνική Ανδρών: Τρεις παίκτες με ίωση

Τρεις διεθνείς ποδοσφαιριστές δεν συμμετείχαν στην προπόνηση της Εθνικής Ανδρών στον Αγιο Κοσμά, όπου συνεχίστηκε η προετοιμασία του αντιπροσωπευτικού συγκροτήματος για τον αγώνα με την Νορβηγία. Πρόκειται για τους Γιούρκα Σεϊταρίδη (αμυγδαλίτιδα), Παρασκευά Αντζα, Γιώργο Σαμαρά (αδιαθεσία), οι οποίοι παρέμειναν στο ξενοδοχείο. Επίσης, ο Φάνης Γκέκας αποχώρησε από την προπόνηση ύστερα από ένα χτύπημα στο αριστερό χέρι, ωστόσο η ακτινογραφία που έκανε δεν έδειξε οστική βλάβη. Τέλος, ο Τραϊανός Δέλλας και ο Σωτήρης Κυργιάκος ακολούθησαν ατομικό πρόγραμμα.

[plato-ny]

Euro Qualifying Group C: Norway And Turkey Chase Greece

As part of Goal.com's continuing coverage of all the big tournaments, we now take a look at Group C in the UEFA Euro 2008 qualifiers. There's still everything to play for, but the holders could all but wrap it up by Wednesday night...

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Some regard Group C as one of the weakest groups in Euro 2008 qualifying. After all, it has no World Cup entrants of 2006.

But one must remember that this group contains none other than the current reigning European champions: Greece. What's more, Turkey - who finished third in the previous World Cup - can never be discounted.

However, it is Bosnia-Herzegovina that has proved to be the surprise package of the group. The Zuto Plavi have never qualified for a major tournament yet are in with a real chance of doing so.

Norway, too, sit level with Bosnia and Turkey; they missed out on the last tournament, and indeed have only ever qualified once, but are still in with a shout.

Hungary, meanwhile, have endured a torrid campaign, while Malta and Moldova scrap it at the bottom...

GREECE
Norway - Greece 12/9 19:00 (all times local)

They may have bid a fond farewell to Theodoros Zagorakis (pictured), but the Greeks are still in high spirits. They are top of their group with eighteen points and well on the way to returning to the tournament that they won in 2004.

Nonetheless, there is a downside. The whole country has been rocked by the recent fires that have resulted in 66 deaths so far, and even football has been affected: due to the tragic events in the south of the country, the League campaign has been postponed.

Thus, several home-grown players are without match fitness, and some of those that aren't may wish they were; AEK went down 6-1 on aggregate to Sevilla recently in the Champions League qualifiers, leaving the likes of Dellas and Liberopolous shaken.

But for all the recent turmoil on and off the pitch, Hellas must remember one thing: they are still top. Indeed, the spine of this team has seen them win six out of seven games so far, including all of their away matches.

Only a dreadful 4-1 defeat to Turkey soured proceedings, but they have bounced back since then, winning three qualifiers on the trot before losing only narrowly to Spain in a recent friendly.

What's more, the squad is generally looking strong. Manchester City's Georgos Samaras will be expected to lead the line, while Katsouranis goes from strength to strength at Benfica.

There are, however, injury problems, the most notable of which is the absence of Stelios Giannakopoulos, the Bolton Wanderers midfielder. He is currently languishing on the sidelines as he recovers from a hernia operation.

What's more, Nuremberg striker Angelos Charisteas is absent with a knee injury.

Be that as it may, now, they will hope to make it six points from six against Norway, whom they beat 1-0 in the group's second game. It was narrow, but it set them on the road to topping the group.

And there they have stayed. That given, it's almost certain that Greece will qualify. It's likely that, when they do make it to Austria and Switzerland, they will fail to defend their title....

But it was just as unlikely to see them win it last time...

Squad: Goalkeepers: Antonis Nikopolidis (Olympiakos Piraeus), Costas Chalkias (Aris)

Defenders: Giourkas Seitaridis (Atletico Madrid), Sotiris Kyrgiakos (Eintracht Frankfurt), Traianos Dellas (AEK Athens), Nikos Spyropoulos (Panionios), Loukas Vintra, Ioannis Goumas (both Panathinaikos), Michalis Kapsis (APOEL), Vassilis Torosidis, Paraskevas Antzas, Christos Patsatzoglou (all Olympiakos)

Midfielders: Angelos Basinas (Mallorca), Alexandros Tziolis, Georgos Karagounis (Panathinaikos), Costas Katsouranis (Benfica)

Strikers: Dimitris Salpigidis, Dimitris Papadopoulos (both Panathinaikos), Nikos Liberopoulos (AEK Athens), Fanis Gekas (Bayer Leverkusen), Georgos Samaras (Manchester City), Ioannis Amanatidis (Eintracht Frankfurt)

BOSNIA-HERZEGOVINA
Hungary - Bosnia 8/9 16:00
Bosnia - Moldova 12/9 20:00

BiH are on cloud nine after that dramatic 3-2 win over Turkey in June; a close-fought 1-0 victory over Malta a few days later propelled the Plavo Zuti into second place.

As they prepare for an eminently winnable double header, coach Fuad Muzrovic has named a mostly strong, confident-looking squad for a trip to Hungary and a visit from Moldova.

There are problems, though. FK Moscow star Branislav Krunic has pulled out with injury, weakening the playmaking aspects of the team.

And Ivica Grlic of high-flying Bundesliga side MSV Duisburg has retired from international football in order to conserve his energy for club affairs.

Nonetheless, confidence is high, and the coach will accept nothing less from six points, considering Hungary's poor standing in the group and Moldova's minnow status.

But, it's just about one year ago to the day that Bosnians were humbled 3-1 at home by the Hungarians. Could history repeat itself, against the odds?

Squad: Goalkeepers: Adnan Gušo (CS Pandurii Lignitul Târgu Jiu), Zdenko Baotić (FK Željezničar), Denis Mujkić (NK Jedinstvo).

Defenders: Džemal Berberović (FC Kuban Krasnodar), Branimir Bajić (TuS Koblenz), Safet Nadarević (NK Zagreb), Dario Damjanović (HNK Hajduk Split), Ivan Radeljić (NK Slaven Belupo), Semjon Milošević (FK Sarajevo).

Midfielders: Mirko Hrgović (HNK Hajduk Split), Zajko Zeba (FC KamAZ Naberezhnye Chelny), Zvjezdan Misimović (1. FC Nürnberg), Elvir Rahimić (PFC CSKA Moskva), Darko Maletić (FK Partizan), Marko Božić (FC Fehérvá), Edin Husić (NK Cibalia).

Forwards: Vedad Ibišević (TSG Hoffenheim), Edin Džeko (VfL Wolsfburg), Adnan Čustović (R. Excelsior Mouscron), Mladen Bartolović (HNK Hajduk Split), Zlatan Muslimović (Atalanta BC), Senijad Ibričić (NK Zagreb), Dragan Blatnjak (FC Khimki).

NORWAY
Moldova - Norway 8/9 20:00
Norway - Greece 12/9 19:00

Norwegian football has been in the news lately following the retirement of one of its brightest starts. Ole Gunnar Solskjær, an eleven year veteran of Manchester United, retired last month after a long battle with a knee injury.

That not only hits the Red Devils, but also Norway. The national side benefitted from 23 Solskjær strikes over the course of his 23 caps, and now must do without him as two must-win ties approach.

The first is against Moldova. Norway have already beaten Moldova 2-0 at home, Steffen Iversen and Fredrik Stromstad - both of whom made the squad - on the scoresheet.

Here, though, they must take their injury-hit squad to Chişinău - not an easy place to travel - and battle out a result if the dream of overtaking Greece at the top is going to have any chance of coming true.

Then, of course, comes the test itself. Moldova cannot be underestimated, but Greece bring an indisputably more difficult game to Oslo. Norway, of course, lost the first fixture in Athens, and may find it difficult here due to pressure and injuries.

Christian Haestad has had to pull out due to injury, while Erik Hagen will only be eligible for this game after serving a suspension against Moldova.

It's crunch time for the boys in red. They didn't lose by much in Athens, but haven't the best of home records, having dropped points to Bosnia earlier in the campaign. Can they put nerves behind them and deliver in these ties?

Squad: Goalkeepers: Jan Kjell Larsen (Molde), Thomas Myhre (Charlton Athletic), Haakon Opdal (Brann)

Defenders: Erik Hagen (Zenit St. Petersburg), Brede Hangeland (FC Copenhagen), Marius Johnsen (Start), Frode Kippe (Lillestrom), Anders Rambekk (Lillestrom), John Arne Riise (Liverpool)

Midfielders: Martin Andresen (Brann), Christian Grindheim (Valerenga), Tommy Svindal Larsen (Odd Grenland), Peter Vaagan Moen (Brann), Morten Gamst Pedersen (Blackburn Rovers), Bjorn Helge Riise (Lillestrom), Jan Gunnar Solli (Rosenborg), Fredrik Stromstad (Start), Christian Grindheim (Valerenga)

Strikers: Daniel Braaten (Rosenborg Trondheim), John Carew (Lyon), Steffen Iversen (Rosenborg), Ole Martin Aarst (Tromso)

TURKEY
Malta - Turkey 8/9 19:30
Turkey - Hungary 12/9 19:30

As far as qualification campaigns go, Turkey have experienced the best and worst of it in this one. The unmatched joy of beating local rivals Greece 4-1 on their own patch soon turned to horror as, just months later, they lost 3-2 to Bosnia.

Now, they're fourth on goal difference behind Norway and Bosnia - albeit with a game in hand over both. By Wednesday night, then, they could be back in the qualification zone after feeling the depression of being out of the runnings.

Of course, the Crescent Stars are no strangers to highs and lows. They may have finished third in World Cup 2004, but failed to even qualify for Euro 2004, losing to Latvia in the playoffs, while they also failed to grace WC2006 with their presence.

And this campaign is, as we know, not exactly going to plan.

Nonetheless, Fatih Terim has called together a dependable-looking squad here, mostly comprising domestic players who are fit and ready to compete after starting their domestic season.

Hakan Sukur, the talismanic forward, recently broke a league scoring record for Galatasaray, and will be itching to replicate the feat on the international stage.

And there is another reason to celebrate. Turkey are back on home soil now, having been made to play three "home" games at neutral venue following earlier crowd trouble.

Nonetheless, the Turks were unbeaten in their adopted home of Frankfurt, racking up two wins and a draw.

Back in Istanbul, they could run riot over Hungary. But Turkey know not to take anything for granted. They've dropped too many points already to make that mistake...

Squad: Goalkeepers: Hakan Arıkan (Beşiktaş), Volkan Demirel (Fenerbahçe), Rüştü Reçber (Beşiktaş).

Defenders: Hakan Kadir Balta (Vestel Manisaspor), Servet Çetin (Galatasaray), Sabri Sarıoğlu (Galatasaray), İbrahim Toraman (Beşiktaş ), İbrahim Üzülmez (Beşiktaş), Hayrettin Yerlikaya (Sivasspor), Gökhan Zan (Beşiktaş).

Midfielders: Ayhan Akman (Galatasaray), Hamit Altıntop (Bayern München), Mehmet Aurelio (Fenerbahçe), Deniz Barış (Fenerbahçe), Emre Belözoğlu (Newcastle United), Hüseyin Çimşir (Trabzonspor), Gökdeniz Karadeniz (Trabzonspor), Serdar Özkan (Beşiktaş), Nuri Şahin (Feyenoord), Tuncay Şanlı (Middlesbrough), Mehmet Topuz (Kayserispor), Arda Turan (Galatasaray).

Strikers: Halil Altıntop (Schalke 04), Nihat Kahveci (Villarreal), Hakan Şükür (Galatasaray), Gökhan Ünal (Kayserispor).

HUNGARY
Hungary - Bosnia 8/9 16:00
Turkey - Hungary 129/9 19:30

It has been a qualification campaign to forget for Hungary, who have just two wins and six points to show for their seven ties so far.

What's more, they've been awful at the back, shipping fourteen goals - just one fewer than Malta and Moldova - to make an average of two concessions per game.

Twice they've let in four against Norway, and also suffered at the hands of Malta early in the campaign.

Oddly enough, though, they've racked up some excellent performances. They recently beat an admittedly-unfit Italy side on home soil in a friendly, while they showed some attacking flair to beat Moldova.

And that could spur them on to ruffle some feathers here: their own challenge might be dead and buried, but they can upset the big boys and dictate the course of qualification for others.

Of course, they might already have done so. They thrashed Bosnia in Zenica last year before losing only narrowly to Turkey in Budapest; both of these results could count in spades for their respective teams as the campaign draws to a close.

That will be of little consolation to the Magical Magyars, though, who must regard their glory days as so far away.

Squad: Goalkeepers: Marton Fulop (Leicester), Janos Balogh (Debrecen), Szabolcs Balajcza (Ujpest)

Defenders: Zoltan Szelesi(Strasbourg), Csaba Csizmadia (Mattersburg), Tamas Vasko (Bristol City), Roland Juhasz (Anderlecht), Vilmos Vanczak (Sion)

Midfielders: Adam Vass (Brescia), Balazs Toth (Genk), Leandro (Debrecen), Daniel Tozser (AEK Athens), Attila Filkor (Inter Milan), Tamas Hajnal (Karlsruhe), Akos Buzsaky (Plymouth), Balazs Dzsudzsak (Debrecen), Peter Halmosi (Plymouth)

Strikers: Zoltan Gera (West Bromwich Albion), Gabor Bori (MTK Budapest), Tamas Priskin (Watford), Peter Rajczi (Ujpest), Robert Feczesin (Brescia)

MALTA
Malta - Turkey 8/9 19:30

Malta are sometimes regarded as European whipping boys to be mentioned in the same breath as San Marino or the Faroe Islands.

Now, though, the islanders have turned some heads after what has been something of a successful campaign.

They've still never qualified for a major tournament, but Malta are off bottom spot thanks to a superb win over Hungary early in qualifying.

That result, plus a hard-fought draw in difficult conditions away to Moldvoa has left some thinking that Malta have now turned a corner.

Yet they are still considered underdogs for the visit of Turkey. They will try their best to make it difficult for the visitors - after all, Greece neededa second half penalty to sink the Knights of St. John in Ta'Qali - and could yet surprise once again.

Hopes are hinged on Andre Schembri, plying his trade in Germany with BTSV Eintracht, and Coventry's Michael Mifsud, the rest of the squad being almost entirely locally-based.

Malta's previous clash with Turkey in qualifying ended 2-0 to the "home" side in Frankfurt.

Squad: Goalkeepers: Omar Borg (Birkirkara), Justin Haber (Haidari), Andrew Hogg (Valletta), Mario Muscat (Hibernians)

Defenders: Ian Azzopardi, Roderick Briffa, Brian Said (all Sliema Wanderers), Luke Dimech (Macclesfield Town), Josef Mifsud, Kenneth Scicluna (both Valletta), Peter Pullicino, Steve Wellman (both Marsaxlokk), Aaron Xuereb (Hibernians)

Midfielders: Gilbert Agius (Valletta), Roderick Bajada (Sliema Wanderers), Cleaven Frendo, Jamie Pace, Kevin Sammut (all Marsaxlokk), George Mallia (Birkirkara)

Strikers: Etienne Barbara, Ivan Woods (both Sliema Wanderers), Andrew Cohen, Terence Scerri (both Hibernians), Michael Mifsud (Coventry City), Andre Schembri (Eintracht Braunschweig)

MOLDOVA
Moldova - Norway 8/9 20:00
Bosnia - Moldova 12/9 20:00

Mathematically speaking, Moldova can still qualify for Euro 2008. It's safe to say, though, that they won't.

The Moldovans have managed just two points so far, garnered from home draws with Bosnia and Malta, and are considered severe underdogs as they prepare to welcome Norway.

Nonetheless, Chisinau is an imposing place to come to, and the pressure is all on the visitors. That could work in the Republic side's favour.

Most players are domestically based, Sheriff of Tiraspol - champions for the last seven seasons running - contributing one player in each position.

There is the odd traveler, though, but one foreign star - Spartak Moscow midfielder Serghei Covalciuc - recently had to withdraw through injury.

Moldova were easily beaten 2-0 by Norway back in Oslo but will hope to hold the visitors to a point here, while repeating the earlier draw to Bosnia away from home would be a mighty achievement for this side.

Squad: Goalkeepers: Serghei Pascenco (FC Sheriff), Nicolai Calancea (CSF Zimbru Chisinau).

Defenders: Semion Bulgaru (FC Sheriff), Alexandru Epureanu (FC Moskva), Ghenadie Olexic (FC Amkar Perm), Victor Golovatenco (FC Tiraspol), Alexei Savinov (CSF Zimbru Chisinau), Serghei Lascencov (FC Karpaty Lviv).

Midfielders: Alexandru Gatcan (FC Rubin Kazan), Radu Rebeja (FC Moskva), Vitalie Bordian (FC Metalist Kharkiv), Igor Tsigirlas (FK Ventspils), Victor Comlenoc (FC SKA Rostov-na-Donu), Serghei Namasco (FC Tiraspol), Nicolae Josan (FC Iskra-Stali), Denis Zmeu (SC Vaslui), Andrei Corneencov (FC Sheriff).

Forwards: Serghei Rogaciov (FK Aktobe), Viorel Frunza (unattached), Igor Bugaiov (FC Chornomorets Odesa), Anatolie Doros (FK Standart Baku), Alexandru Suvorov (FC Sheriff).

[plato-ny]

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Except for the Turkey loss, Greece has not allowed a goal and has won all their matches. Thats something to be optimistic about.

Greece-Norway 1-0 (http://www.goal4replay.net/GoalWatch.asp?Ln=En&ID=514)

[OCFP]

Bosnia is losing in the 60'. If it continues were looking better

[plato-ny]

Εθνική Ανδρών: Παρέμειναν εκτός Αντζας-Πατσατζόγλου

Λόγω αδιαθεσίας, ο Παρασκευάς Αντζας και ο Χρήστος Πατσατζόγλου δεν συμμετείχαν ούτε στην προπόνηση του Σαββάτου 8/9/2007 της Εθνικής Ομάδας Ανδρών στις εγκαταστάσεις του Αγίου Κοσμά, όπου όλοι οι υπόλοιποι διεθνείς γυμνάστηκαν χωρίς προβλήματα. Μετά το τέλος της προπόνησης, οι ποδοσφαιριστές έμειναν ελεύθεροι και θα συγκεντρωθούν εκ νέου την Κυριακή και ώρα 13:00

[plato-ny]

Bosnia lost in Hungary 1-0. I wonder if the Bosnians will continue to talk about conspiracy theories. This loss is big for Greece who have 5 more points with one games less played

Standings after Bosnia's loss:

Greece 7 18
Bosnia-Herzegovina 8 13
Turkey 6 13
Norway 7 13
Hungary 8 9
Malta 7 4
Moldova 7 2

[Panathinaikos2]

Malta just tied Turkey 2-2 :)

[Centarfor9]

i'm hoping for greece win :)

actually i want Greece to win out (except the game against bosnia of course) :D

[OCFP]

i'm hoping for greece win :)

actually i want Greece to win out (except the game against bosnia of course) :D

I was an idiot a few months back for saying it though. Thats the best situation for u guys.

If we win in Norway we are in. If we lose though we drop to second with a game in hand. Even if we lose in Turkey we still will be in good shape with those 2 loses. Will turkey have fans against Greece or are they still punished???

Good results if u are a greek.

[Centarfor9]

turkey will play in turkey

some hard games coming up for Greece

Norway
BiH
Turkey

4 points here will do the magic

[plato-ny]

Losing points to small teams can be costly. Greece struggled at home with Moldova and on the road with Malta. But, Greece did not blow those games. Greece and Norway did not blow any points against the 3 bottom teams whereas Turkey threw away 2 points and Bosnia threw away 8. Losing points to the Top 4 teams is one thing but tossing points against the bottom 3 teams is something that can bite you in the end.

But, I still think Greece and Turkey will qualify. Todays results were very good for Greece and they will play in front of Turkish fans in Turkey

Group C Pld Pts

Greece 7 18
Norway 8 16
Turkey 7 14
Bosnia-Herzegovina 8 13
Hungary 8 9
Malta 8 5
Moldova 8 2

[plato-ny]

( I found this in another forum and I think its acurate)

Greece just needs 9 points to qualify.

At the moment the standings are

Greece 18 (5 matches left)
Norway 16 (4 matches left)
Turkey 14 (5 matches left)
Bosnia 13 (4 matches left)

Should Turkey win all games, they end with 29 points, but this means Norway can only win 3 games cause Turkey would have beaten them, so they end with 25 points.

If Norway wins all games, they end with 28, and Turkey which would have lost to Norway wins 4 of last 5 and thus ends with 26 points.

If Turkey and Norway draw and win the rest (worst case), Turkey ends 27, and Norway with 26 points.

Bosnia can now only end with 25 points and that would mean beating both Turkey and Norway.

With 3 wins, Greece ends with 27 points and goes through no matter what situation.

In other words, beat Bosnia and Malta (home) and Hungary (away) and we are through. The road games with Norway and Turkey, even they end with losses, would not matter)

[PAO_HELLAS]

The draw of Turkey was definately a big surprise. Hungary-Bosnia can be a result which was expected by many people. Things are going very good for us :D.

[Saraj Fanático]

Damn Hungarians and their penalties! :mad2: I still think we are better. We just didn't give it our all this time around. Our new plan is to do the following.. Defeat Moldova (Very likely, if not I will set myself on fire) then fight like there is no tomorrow in Athens (This is the part where you kinda want Greece to beat Norway..leads to underestimation and too much confidence..but still...too risky). And then we have to (Required if we want to go to Euro) defeat Norway at home. And whatever happens with the Turks at the end let it be. But we shouldn't back down.

[Centarfor9]

Damn Hungarians and their penalties! :mad2: I still think we are better. We just didn't give it our all this time around.
that doesn't matter - and it counts for nothing

Greece hasn't played the best they could and they come up with wins i.e. they are winners

[Saraj Fanático]

So what are you saying? We are losers!? :mad2:

We just didn't have our day today. We had 3 guaranteed-for-goal chances which pretty much a lot of people could have put away but luck was against us. Hope thats not the case against Greece.

[Centarfor9]

So what are you saying? We are losers!? :mad2:
no we are bosnia

we beat turkey and norway (away)

but lose to hungary twice and draw against moldova

lets stay on topic look at the name of the thread

[OCFP]

that doesn't matter - and it counts for nothing

Greece hasn't played the best they could and they come up with wins i.e. they are winners


:amen: :grouphug:

And it would be very nice if we have qualified early and threw some young players in the mix to see what they got in the last few matches.

[Centarfor9]

:amen: :grouphug:

And it would be very nice if we have qualified early and threw some young players in the mix to see what they got in the last few matches.
true

wish you the best (except when you play bosnia :D )

[Fenerliyim]

Well bosnia is practically out so forget them, now Go GREECE, as long as norway loses and we win i will be happy.

Greece and Turkey to Euro 08 come on

[Centarfor9]

lol ^

[Fenerliyim]

yo by any chances do u think greece will lose on purpose to Norway just to screw up turkeys chances of qualifying just to get revenge against us

[plato-ny]

yo by any chances do u think greece will lose on purpose to Norway just to screw up turkeys chances of qualifying just to get revenge against us

I seriously doubt that. Thats much too big a chance to take...

[Centarfor9]

yo by any chances do u think greece will lose on purpose to Norway just to screw up turkeys chances of qualifying just to get revenge against us
you never know

[plato-ny]

Εθνική Ανδρών: Απαντες παρόντες

Ολοι οι ποδοσφαιριστές της Εθνικής Ανδρών γυμνάστηκαν σήμερα στις εγκαταστάσεις του Αγίου Κοσμά, όπου διεξήχθη η προτελευταία προπόνηση του αντιπροσωπευτικού συγκροτήματος πριν από την αναχώρηση της αποστολής για το Οσλο. Την Δευτέρα 9/9/2007 και ώρα 10:30 θα πραγματοποιηθεί η τελευταία προπόνηση επί ελληνικού εδάφους, ενώ η πτήση με προορισμό την πρωτεύουσα της Νορβηγίας είναι προγραμματισμένη για τις 16:00.

[OCFP]

yo by any chances do u think greece will lose on purpose to Norway just to screw up turkeys chances of qualifying just to get revenge against us

they arent that stupid. i believe we are playing for the draw even though our players are saying we are playing for the win.

[Fenerliyim]

any kind of point loss for norway is good for us

[plato-ny]

they arent that stupid. i believe we are playing for the draw even though our players are saying we are playing for the win.

The Greek players were saying that prior to the Saturday results. Now, playing for a tie would be a good option considering that Greece is not in match-form right now whereas Norway is.

[plato-ny]

Eurobet odds to win Group C:

Selection Winner Stake
Greece 1.65
Turkey 3.25
Norway 5.50
Bosnia & Herz. 34.00

[OCFP]

EINAI BAPIA H POU__ TOU TSOLIA :smoking: :smoking:

[Fenerliyim]

i read greece is pretty much crippled in the defense and foward area, any truth to this?

just make norway lose points its the only thing i'm asking

[plato-ny]

(Injury Update)

Ioannis Amanatidis has been ruled out of Greece's Group C encounter against Norway because of a recurrent rib injury. The Eintracht Frankfurt striker has returned to Germany to focus on rehabilitation leaving Otto Rehhagel to mull over his striking options. The Greece coach has decided not to replace Amanatidis and will instead choose from four strikers at his disposal: Nikolaos Lyberopoulos, Dimitrios Salpingidis, Theofanis Gekas and Georgios Samaras.

Defender Kjetil Wæhler is out of Norway's squad for the vital fixture in Oslo. Wæhler had to come off with a thigh strain in Saturday's 1-0 win in Moldova. Midfielder Alexander Tettey is also a doubt for the Greece match, after he injured his thigh during training on Monday. Victory for Norway would take them top.
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Norway surging into contention

As June began the idea that Norway were on course to reach UEFA EURO 2008™ would have seemed far-fetched. In March they had lost at home to Bosnia-Herzegovina and conceded two late goals to draw against Turkey in Frankfurt and were well adrift of second-placed Greece in Group C. But when the title holders come to Oslo on Wednesday, Norway know victory would take them top of the section.

Revival

Things started to turn around in June with consecutive 4-0 wins against Malta and Hungary. Argentina were defeated 2-1 in an August friendly, and on Saturday Norway came away from Moldova with a 1-0 victory that lifted them above Turkey and Bosnia-Herzegovina into a qualifying position, just two points behind leaders Greece.

Greek visit

Of course, none of their recent wins have been against rivals for a place in the finals like Greece or their following two opponents Bosnia-Herzegovina and Turkey, and coach Åge Hareide is expecting a tougher test on Wednesday. "It will be difficult," he said. "I expect Greece to come to Norway with a well-organised defence. But I feel we now are up to the task."

Tight-lipped

The magnitude of the game was clear in the usually frank Hareide's response when asked about his plans for midweek. "I won't answer any more questions regarding tactics and selection of the team ahead of the Greece game," he said. "[Greece coach] Otto Rehhagel will not get any information that he can use."

Form players

Not only has goalkeeper Håkon Opdal kept three consecutive competitive clean sheets since replacing Thomas Myhre following his nightmare against Turkey, but other players have hit top form. John Carew has struck four goals in four games, including both against Argentina, and the Aston Villa FC forward has blossomed as a team player. Meanwhile, FC København centre-back Brede Hangeland, himself tracked by Premier League clubs, has matured into a commanding defender and a first final tournament since 2000 is now a distinct possibility.

[Saraj Fanático]

yo by any chances do u think greece will lose on purpose to Norway just to screw up turkeys chances of qualifying just to get revenge against us


Dude I think Greece would rather go out and beat Norway and Turkey them selfs.

[plato-ny]

Rehhagel's statements before Greece's departure for Norway were the following:

"We are on top of our group and we must protect that lead until our last EURO 2008 qualifier game. This means that on Wednesday we must play with passion and at the same time use our brains."

"Norway is in a much worse situation than us, since even a tie is a bad result for them. Our chances of qualifying are good but in order to do that we must take advantage of the situation. Everyone watching the game must see a team that is full of passion and ready to leave their last drop of sweat on the pitch."

[plato-ny]

http://www.ekathimerini.com/4dcgi/news/sport__2747304KathiLev&xml/&aspKath/sports.asp?fdate=11/09/2007

http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=410534

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: Πρέπει να παίξουμε με καρδιά, αλλά προπάντων με μυαλό 11/9/2007

Συνέντευξη στους εκπροσώπους των ΜΜΕ παραχώρησε ο προπονητής της Εθνικής Ομάδας Ανδρών Οτο Ρεχάγκελ, στο γήπεδο «Ulleval», λίγη ώρα πριν από την τελευταία προπόνηση του αντιπροσωπευτικού μας συγκροτήματος, ενόψει του αγώνα με την αντίστοιχη της Νορβηγίας την Τετάρτη 12/9/2007 και ώρα 20:00, για την προκριματική φάση του EURO 2008.

Η συνέντευξη του κ. Ρεχάγκελ ξεκίνησε με την ακόλουθη δήλωση εκ μέρους του: «Η κατάσταση είναι ξεκάθαρη. Είμαστε πρώτοι και θέλουμε να υπερασπισθούμε αυτή τη θέση. Ολοι γνωρίζουν μαθηματικά, μπορούν να κάνουν πρόσθεση. Επομένως γνωρίζουν ότι η Νορβηγία πρέπει να νικήσει εμάς. Ακόμη και η ισοπαλία μπορεί να είναι λίγη. Αυτό σημαίνει ότι θα γίνει ένα δυνατό παιχνίδι και οι φίλαθλοι θα το ζήσουν. Εμείς περιμένουμε από την ομάδα να συμπεριφερθεί ανάλογα με την κατάσταση που θα επικρατήσει. Πρέπει να παίξουμε με καρδιά, αλλά προπάντων με μυαλό».

Ακολούθησαν οι ερωτήσεις των εκπροσώπων των ΜΜΕ και οι απαντήσεις του Ομοσπονδιακού προπονητή.

Ερώτηση: Ο αντίπαλος προπονητής λέει ότι φοβάται να πει ποια 11άδα θα χρησιμοποιήσει, αποκαλώντας τον Ρεχάγκελ «πονηρή αλεπού».

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: «Ελεύθερος άνθρωπος είναι και κάνει ότι θέλει».

Ερώτηση: Λένε πως η καλύτερη άμυνα είναι η επίθεση. Ισχύει αυτό για το αυριανό ματς;

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: «Οσον αφορά τις ιδιαιτερότητες του παιχνιδιού δεν θέλω να πω τίποτα. Ξέρουμε ότι θα αντιμετωπίσουμε μια δυνατή ομάδα, έχουμε κάνει τα πλάνα μας, αλλά δεν θέλω να πω κάτι περισσότερο».

Ερώτηση: Πιστεύετε ότι η Νορβηγία, όπως η Ελλάδα, μπορεί ποτέ να πάρει το Euro;

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: «Στον αθλητισμό όλα γίνονται. Αν προκριθεί στην τελική φάση όλα μπορούν να συμβούν. Ας μην κάνουμε όμως το επόμενο βήμα. Αυτή τη στιγμή παίζετε ακόμη η προκριματική φάση».

ΕΡ.: Θα είναι ευχαριστημένη η Ελλάδα από την ισοπαλία;

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: «Αυτό θα μπορούμε να το πούμε μετά το παιχνίδι».

Ερώτηση: Πως βλέπετε την ομάδα της Νορβηγίας;

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: «Η Νορβηγία είναι μια ομάδα που παίζει καλά. Μαχητική, καλή στο ψηλό παιχνίδι, με ομοιογένεια, διαθέτει παίκτες που παίζουν αρκετό διάστημα μαζί».

Ερώτηση: Το γεγονός ότι η Ελλάδα είναι πρώτη στον όμιλό της, είναι στοιχείο που θα κάνει τους ποδοσφαιριστές να αγωνισθούν χωρίς άγχος;

Οτο Ρεχάγκελ: «Οταν ξεκινήσει το παιχνίδι οι παίκτες δεν σκέφτονται τους βαθμούς. Εκείνο που μετράει είναι να έχουν σωστές επιλογές μέσα στο γήπεδο. Θέλω να κοιτάξουν τον εαυτό τους στον καθρέφτη μετά το παιχνίδι και να μπορούν να πουν, ναι τα έδωσα όλα».

[plato-ny]

Norway's last game (Moldova-Norway 0-1)
http://video.uefa.com/multimediafiles/freehighlights/competitions/euro/583733.asx Even though we are in not match form, we are rested unlike Norway who played days ago

Norway's last home game (Norway-Hungary 4-0) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=wD_4Khfgd64)

Norway's last home derby game (Norway-Bosnia 1-2). So far, they have not fared well in home derbies even though they only have played one. (http://youtube.com/watch?v=ZvkrbKjRL00)

http://video.uefa.com/multimediafiles/freehighlights/competitions/euro/548461.asxGreece's last match (Greece-Moldova 2-1)

Greece's only road derby so far (Bosnia- Greece 0-4). Greece is 100% perfect on the road including one derby) (http://youtube.com/watch?v=5Ub3YKkJQ14)

[plato-ny]

Ο γερμανός δεν αποκάλυψε την 11άδα του αγώνα. Χαρακτηριστικά, για τη θέση του τερματοφύλακα, η οποία πλέον είναι ανοιχτή, απάντησε: "Δεν θα σας πω ποιος θα παίξει, απλά θα αποφασίσω".

Φαίνεται να ετοιμάζει σχήμα 3-5-2, με αρκετές θέσεις να παίζονται. Νικοπολίδης ή Χαλκιάς στην εστία και στο κέντρο της άμυνας, Δέλλας, Κυργιάκος και ένας από τους Ανατολάκη, Γκούμα, Αντζα.

Τα άκρα δεν αλλάζουν, με τους Σεϊταρίδη δεξιά και Τοροσίδη αριστερά, όπως και τα χαφ, με τους Κατσουράνη, Μπασινά, Καραγκούνη. Οσο για το δίδυμο της επίθεσης, ο Γκέκας θα ξεκινήσει και ο παρτενέρ του θα είναι ένας από τους Σαμαρά, Σαλπιγγίδη.

Στην προπόνηση της Εθνικής πήγαν και κάποιοι έλληνες φίλαθλοι, που θα συμπαρασταθούν στους διεθνείς μας και στη διάρκεια του αγώνα. Στο Ούλεβαλ αναμένεται να βρίσκονται 25.000 νορβηγοί.

Η προϊστορία

Ημερομηνία Θεσμός Αγώνας Αποτέλεσμα Σκόρερ

22/02/89 Φιλικό Ελλάδα-Νορβηγία 4-2 37’ Σαμαράς, 55’ Βακαλόπουλος, 57’ Τσαλουχίδης, 63’ Σαραβάκος - 51’ Μπράτσετ, 65’ Σάρλοτ

23/08/89 Φιλικό Νορβηγία-Ελλάδα 0-0 -
27/03/99 ΠΕΠ Ελλάδα-Νορβηγία 0-2 37’, 86’ Σόλσκιερ
04/09/99 ΠΕΠ Νορβηγία-Ελλάδα 1-0 35’ Λεονάρντσεν
12/02/03 Φιλικό Ελλάδα-Νορβηγία 1-0 26’ Κυργιάκος
07/10/06 ΠΕΠ Ελλάδα-Νορβηγία 1-0 32’ Κατσουράνης


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[PAO_HELLAS]

First 11 for Greece: Chalkias, Seitaridis, Dellas, Kyrgiakos, Torosidis, Karagounis, Basinas, Patsatzoglou, Katsouranis, Salpingides, Gekas

[poutismalakas]

Match just started!

[Vic]

Kyrgiakos 1-0 Greece

[Centarfor9]

1-1 lol

come on Greece :)

[Vic]

Yeah baby cmon Norway!!! Carewwwwww! :D

[())__Green__))>]

that Norway goal should have not counted
Carew pushed down the Greek defender
he did the same to our goalie
Carew plays pretty cheap

[PAO_HELLAS]

2-2 half time score.

As FK said the goal by this dude who looks like Ghenghis Khan shouldn't be valid bit I am not going to complain about this. We still have a half to upturn.

[Centarfor9]

Pedersen also plays dirty

[poutismalakas]

2-2

How bad was it cause it seems bad via gamecast on espn.com

[PAO_HELLAS]

The Swiss is a big karagiozi....

[poutismalakas]

So how did we play? cause as I said it seems like we got owned in the second half via that espn.com gamecast

[Centarfor9]

this is a good score for bosnia

but right now we are losing 0-1 HT

but we have 76% of the possesion (uefa.com)

[poutismalakas]

this is Hellas vs Norway NOT BiH game :D




jk

[Centarfor9]

that was added info

Greece you have disappointed bosnians on sfn forum! :)

[PAO_HELLAS]

So how did we play? cause as I said it seems like we got owned in the second half via that espn.com gamecast

In the last 15 minutes they were playing us in half of the field, and this was a result of their dirty game and the tactic of that Swiss Karagiozi. The Norwegians though they were playing rugby I guess, so dirty game. In the 15 minutes I mentioned, after every save of Chalkias they were surrounding him and falling on him, and the Swiss was just looking. That guy who looks like Gheghis Khan was the one who played the most dirty and all he got was a yellow card - on the other hand he was giving yellow cards so easily in the fouls commited by our players. Norway should have receive 2-3 red cards today.

[poutismalakas]

In the last 15 minutes they were playing us in half of the field, and this was a result of their dirty game and the tactic of that Swiss Karagiozi. The Norwegians though they were playing rugby I guess, so dirty game. In the 15 minutes I mentioned, after every save of Chalkias they were surrounding him and falling on him, and the Swiss was just looking. That guy who looks like Gheghis Khan was the one who played the most dirty and all he got was a yellow card - on the other hand he was giving yellow cards so easily in the fouls commited by our players. Norway should have receive 2-3 red cards today.
Sounds to me that UEFA refs wanted Norway to win??? either way that sucks I was hoping for 3 points!:worried:

[poutismalakas]

Greece you have disappointed bosnians on sfn forum! :)
That is ok!! You guys talk to much smack sometimes!??? :ronaldo:

[Fenerliyim]

yesssssss good job greece. greece and turkey to euro 08 wooooooohoooooooooo

[Vagabundo]

2-2 with 2 shots hitting the goal-post from Hellas side.
Tha reff was probably the worst I've seen in like 15 years?

Is UEFA recruting gay reffs by priority now? Seemed to me as he was looking for a "good time" desperately...

[PAO_HELLAS]

2-2 with 2 shots hitting the goal-post from Hellas side.
Tha reff was probably the worst I've seen in like 15 years?

Is UEFA recruting gay reffs by priority now? Seemed to me as he was looking for a "good time" desperately...

:lol: :lol:

I can imagine, when he saw the mugs of Karagounis and Kyrgiakos he got turned on for real. But they aren't doing such things.

[plato-ny]

Who cares if Greece disappointed the Bosnians? Bosnia lost to Moldova at home. Bosnia disappointed Bosnia. Do Bosnians think it was a conspiracy yet again? Turkey scores 3 goals against Hungary after score was 0-0 at 63rd minute before red card to Hungary player.

We win the tiebreaker against Norway in case of a tie. We are technically 3 points ahead of Norway as a result with one game less played

http://www.goal4replay.net/GoalWatch.asp?p=1&Ln=En&ID=2764

Greece 8 19
Norway 9 17
Turkey 8 17
Bosnia-Herzegovina 9 13
Hungary 9 9
Malta 8 5
Moldova 9 5

Remaining matches of importance

Moldova 13/10/07 Turkey
Greece 13/10/07 Bosnia-Herzegovina
Turkey 17/10/07 Greece
Bosnia-Herzegovina 17/10/07 Norway
Norway 17/11/07 Turkey
Greece 17/11/07 Malta
Turkey 21/11/07 Bosnia-Herzegovina
Malta 21/11/07 Norway
Hungary 21/11/07 Greece

[plato-ny]

Im using this hypothetical scenario to determine how many points Greece actually needs to qualify. What do you think?

If Turkey gets first place:

Assume Turkey actually gets 29 points and gets first place, then Norway, with a home loss to Turkey and winning their other matches, would have 23. Then Greece would need 23 points and would be in a second-place tie with Norway and, as a result, Greece would get the tiebreaker. Thus, Greece would need 4 points to actually qualify. It would be 5 points if Norway tied Turkey.

If Norway gets first place:

Assume Norway wins all their remaining matches and gets first place. They would have 26 points and win a tiebreaker against Turkey who would also have 26 points assuming they win their other matches and lose to Norway. Now, if Greece also has 26 points, then they would lose a tiebreaker to Norway/Turkey because of goal differential/goals scored. So, in this scenario, Greece would need, at least 8 points to qualify. It would be 6 points if Norway tied Turkey.

If Greece gets first place:

Now, lets say Greece is in first place with 31 points assuming they won all their matches. Turkey would have 26 points if they beat Norway, who would have 23, and Norway would have 26 points if they beat Turkey, who would have 23. Since, Greece would lose the tiebreaker to Turkey because of goals scored/goal differential, then Greece would need, at least 27 points, meaning 8 points to qualify. But, since Greece would win the tiebreaker with Norway, then they would need 7 points to qualify. Although, if Norway-Turkey were to end in a draw, then each would have 24 and Greece would only need 6 points to qualify

I wont use a Bosnia being in first place scenario because Bosnia looks like they are out.

So, the number of points needed to qualify varies with every scenario although the "guaranteed" number is 8. Greece can also qualify with 4-7 points depending on the scenario. It can be as little as 2 or 3 points if Norway drops points to both Bosnia and Turkey

[Fenerliyim]

the best for u would be if turkey won all their matches

[Centarfor9]

norway will most likely lose to us (100%)

and we will most likely lose both away games

i hope that helps the calculations

[Panathinaikos2]

that was added info

Greece you have disappointed bosnians on sfn forum! :)With all the trash some of the Bosnians here have said about us i'm glad we disappointed you guys :smoking: Better luck next time Bosnia ;)

[poutismalakas]

With all the trash some of the Bosnians here have said about us i'm glad we disappointed you guys :smoking: Better luck next time Bosnia ;)
I agree with you on that:ronaldo:

But I bet if we beat them in Athina that they'll be more humble? Either way take everyone's smack talking with a grain of salt cause they aren't that bad as some have been here!

[Centarfor9]

i still expect a win in Greece lets not get that wrong :sad:

what is going to happen now - some young blood will come to the team and we will get rid of some players that have proven not to care for the team

also i'm expecting some resignations

etc etc

[poutismalakas]

you think you can change that much in 1 month?

[Centarfor9]

you think you can change that much in 1 month?
the most important thing we need to change is our attitude

then hopefully people in charge of the football federation would realise than not a single person in the country wants them there

then finally we can go ahead forward

put in new players (again) (get some players back) and everything should be fine

[poutismalakas]

put in new players (again) (get some players back) and everything should be fine
That is WHAT you guys said last time;)

[Centarfor9]

That is WHAT you guys said last time;)
and we won the next three games :D

this is the second time around so we should be even better

[plato-ny]

Extended highlights with the posts
http://youtube.com/watch?v=pMJ5voPLXi0&...ted&search= (http://youtube.com/watch?v=pMJ5voPLXi0&mode=related&search=)

This clip shows how Greece blew a chance to score just before they hit the post
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RThRKc8T1ZY

[plato-ny]

Match ended days ago but here are pics (not mine)from the Norway-Hellas match:

Before the match
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014261.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014267.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014268.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014324.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014343.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014350.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014377.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014381.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014383.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014393.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014408.jpg
http://www.ipodcrates.com/Norway_Hellas/r0014440.jpg

[plato-ny]

Galatasaray's stadium will be hosting the Turkey-Hellas match. Its not the same that Greece played in last time. This holds 26,000 whereas the other held 33,000

http://resources.sport-fm.gr/supersportFM/images/news/thumbnails/400_alisamiyen.jpg

[OCFP]

I was in Greece for this game so i havent been reading what was been wrote. We played good offensively and if Patsa scored in the final minute as he should have we would be packing for Euro08 but oh well. We were hurt defensively and thats a good excuse for conceding twice but wow. we play very poorly defensively. We got the result we wanted. On for 2 important matches against Bosnia and Turkey.