CLQ Leg 1: Fenerbahce vs Anderlecht

[Fener19*07bahce]

Ok, big moment..Lets se how our boys do.

[el Turco]

I think we can beat them and qualify for the groups.

[Cihangir]

Bi zahmet! :D I'm sure about the win.

[RedLioN]

i think two wins for FB : ) and i hope u'll make it ;)

[SiN]

When is this match?

[Bina]

^ August 15 at Şükrü Saracoğlu, 2nd leg Aug. 29

http://www.fenerbahce.org/detay.asp?ContentID=8323

[RedLioN]

http://www.sporx.com/futbol/superlig/74769/

guys get used to it this year : ( he'll have injuries so often this year that's what it seems

[Bina]

http://www.sporx.com/futbol/superlig/74769/

guys get used to it this year : ( he'll have injuries so often this year that's what it seems

1. Source: sporx - no news about any injury on Fenerbahçe's official homepage...

2. ... contrary: http://www.fenerbahce.org/eng/detay.asp?ContentID=1094
Last paragraph Alex tells that he's fit.

3. Why should we get used to it? The season has not even started yet.

[RedLioN]

actually it's Sabah's news ;) yea maybe it can't be true but as we all know Alex began the season with his injury actually injury that started during the last periods of the last season (kasıklarından) and he didn't have any operation so that seems to have make problems for him that's why that i said get used to it ;) contrary i wish he's OK too before such an important game ;)

[Bina]

Well.... maybe the moon comes off...

Injuries are too common in this sport, can happen to everybody at every time. I'm no doctor so i don't dare to say if Alex is especially or more unimmunized than any other player. Whatsoever, he seems to be okay now and this is all that counts.

[RedLioN]

alright then ;)

[cengo]

Looking at Alex's stats during his three years with us...he has been the most "injuryfree" player in the team. He is one of few who is entitled to be injured now and then....;)

Last season he played in 2790 minutes in 32 games.

In the 2005/6 season he played 2751 minutes in 31 games.

In the 2004/5 season 2725 minutes in 31 games.

I dont see why we should get used to alex being injured....or is it wishful thinking from your side?:D :p

[RedLioN]

no man : ) i really want him to play in this critical anderlecht game ;) i didn't write this lookin at last years i know how many games he played or minutes i just wrote that from what i've read and wanted learn ur opinions too according to LigTv's news this injury could be often if he doesn'r have an operation get used to it was sth. that i wanted to tell this nth. bad intention ;)

http://www.ligtv.com.tr/Default.aspx?r=1&hid=24154

true or false but what i know his not having operation and missing pre season camp have been talked a lot as we all know. i hope it's really fault ;)

[cengo]

No problem....but if Alex had been severly injured the offcial site would have let us know. I only read that he practiced indoors because of a minor injury instead of with the team. So it doesnt seem like he is severly injured.:)

[cengo]

The latest about Alex:

http://www.fenerbahce.org/detay.asp?ContentID=8332

[Cihangir]

I really wonder what precautions will Zico take after the unfortunate opening game of the season.

[SiN]

A loss against Anderlecht will defenatley spell trouble!

[Bosanac]

I doubt that's going to happen, Sinan.


We got this


I'm not saying we're in our best form, but most of our players play good against European oppositions.

I'm saying 3-1 for Fenerbahce. Could be more open though, 4-1, or 3-0.

[SiN]

I agree with you, i think the FB will rise to the challenge and step up there attitude which will filter through into the match. There needs to be more of a team effort, not just individuals. Aurielo needs to focus and organise himself as the CDM he is responsible of the section between defense and midfield, he is the playmaker and needs to feed the ball to the wings, if FB can used there wings or use wall to wall passing strategies they can score more easily, Alex, Devid, Kezman, these players enjoy short through balls so they run on and convert them into goals, thats what FB needs in this match :)

[Fener19*07bahce]

Hopefully they will execute and redeem themselves because i am unbelievably upset about the 2-0 game..I cant eat sleep or drink right. My moral is just so..ughh!! We have to win this game..atleast for my sake, lmfao

[SiN]

That was only the first game of the season, no need to beat urself up about it ;)

[cengo]

To be honest im not the slightest worried. It's the media who makes it look worse than it really is....and unfortunately the majority of the fans believes everything our so called Quality Turkish Media writes.

This team basked Bjk only a week ago and everyone was happy. Now that we lost to Istanbul, who actually played really well, everything has turned from good to bad. So typical turkish to see things as either black or white....never a grey zone.

This team is almsot the same team who won the championship last season without losing a single derby game. We mostly dropped points against leagues in the bottom of the league so basically nothing has changed.

Im very optimistic about this season because i think we are a better team than last year. This doesnt mean that we will be succesful but the circumstances are a lot better than last season when we were still in the trauma of losing the championsip plus our great had resigned and our transfers being made in the last minute.

[cengo]

I think we are a better team than Anderlecht....but you dont win games by saying it. The team has play to it's potential....if they do i think we will win both games.

Let's hope we perform as good as we did against bjk...

[Fener19*07bahce]

To be honest im not the slightest worried. It's the media who makes it look worse than it really is....and unfortunately the majority of the fans believes everything our so called Quality Turkish Media writes.

This team basked Bjk only a week ago and everyone was happy. Now that we lost to Istanbul, who actually played really well, everything has turned from good to bad. So typical turkish to see things as either black or white....never a grey zone.

This team is almsot the same team who won the championship last season without losing a single derby game. We mostly dropped points against leagues in the bottom of the league so basically nothing has changed.

Im very optimistic about this season because i think we are a better team than last year. This doesnt mean that we will be succesful but the circumstances are a lot better than last season when we were still in the trauma of losing the championsip plus our great had resigned and our transfers being made in the last minute.
The last thing i read that was Turkish was, Fenerbahce 0 - 2 Istanbul..No matter any match we lose i get like this..:lol: :lol:

[Fenerliyim]

man this match is huge we need to win at least by 2. We are really lucky to even get anderlecht. They were the 2nd weakest team we could get. If we dont get passed these guys we wont get passed any team in the uefa cup either.

If Alex plays we will win 100%. Plus i trust zico in these big games, our team plays best in derbies and european games of late. And only if we have a bit of luck on our side we will get passed them.

[el Turco]

Our team usually performs better in these kind of games, so I expect a victory.

[Bosanac]

Our team usually performs better in these kind of games, so I expect a victory.


Hmm.. stop repeat me FenerFan. :silly:

Anyway man, there will be a sopcast link for the game, if you want.. I can give it to you. There's a thread in 'that one website' about this game where a certain somebody has promised to stream it. :)

He will stream the Besiktas game as well, Cihangir. :)

[RedLioN]

good luck Fenerbahçe ;)

[())__Green__))>]

Good luck to all turkish teams
in the champions league
and in the uefa cup ;)

Final Score :

Fenerbahce 3:1 Anderlecht
(R. Carlos 25, 42, 78, R. Carlos Own Goal)
Roberto Carlos own goal, hits the ball so hard from the middle and hits the post and goes back into his own net
as said before :)

[cengo]

Nice score prediction...:D

As long as we win i dont really care about the score. But im hoping for a 2-0 win.

[Fenerliyim]

a 1-0 win, one more goal would have made me feel better but its better than nothing.

Again like the super cup we dominated the 1st half but in the 2nd half our team got tired again. We were really lucky in the 2nd half, they had many chances to score but Serdar was amazing.

Alex scored the only goal from a great cross from aurelio. Kezman and dievid are useless. I was so happy that F.Tekke's loan to fenerbahce for a year was announced right after the game. Not officially but almost all reliable news sources have reported it like DHA, Cnn Turk.

[Bosanac]

I agree, in the second half it was as if we were asking them to score against us. They were just incompetend to do so.

We shouldn't play like we did in the second half in any match, because against a good opposition we'll get scored on a lot.

I'm hoping this is because it's only the beginning of the season, and once they get used to each other we won't witness second halves like this.

[())__Green__))>]

i was switching at times from watching the Sarajevo - Dynamo match
to watching the fenerbahce match
haha i was happy when fenerbahce scored :D

[SiN]

Congrats ;)

[RedLioN]

congratulations FB and FB fans here =) good result imo and FB has the capacity to score wherever they play and we can say FB is in the group stage ;)

[())__Green__))>]

i hope Fenerbahce tears them apart next game
kezman is sucking big time this year ehh??
haha just like he did in the nt!
but i have a good feeling fenerbahce will do good in Group Stage as well

[cengo]

A very good first half and a poor second half. I guess we still arent matchfit considering we lose tempo in the second half. But the defense looked very solid when they get the support they need from the midfield. When they dont get that support, that is when it becomes dangerous for us.

Big difference when Lugano plays in our defense and when Önder is having a good day. Carlos was awesome...you clearly can see the diffrenece between him and some of our players. He knows where to stay and what to do...exactly what this team needs.

Deivid was once again amongst the better players together with Aurelio, Deniz, Lugano. Önder and Edu.

Kezman had a really bad day...couldnt receive a single ball through the entire game but he worked well. Tümer was ok but nothing more.

Serdar was awesome between the bars....saved us a couple of times.

I dont know if you have noticed it too but it's us who gives them chances to score against us when someone makes the most idiotic pass or fumbles with the ball when he is all alone.

If we can reduce these mistakes we will become a much more solid team. It's little mistakes that weakens us.

We also need to get in better physical condition. Playing good in 45 minutes is far from enough....i hope Zico and Santanna has noticed this as well.

[GalaPagoSaraY]

it would be great if they changed turkish leagues starting time so our teams that compete in europe would be more fit to those matches, but still a solid result, atleast no away goals conceeded and 1 abroad goal in Anderlecht will hopefully tear them apart

[Fenerliyim]

i dont get how u can say dievid played a good game, he was no where in offense and gave some lousy passes that ended near goals.

Kezman is just not cut out to be a lone striker, he cant dribble and everytime he tries its so obvious where hes gonna go. And if u notice he takes shots from outside the box that go to goal but have no power so the GK has a really easy time saving it. Unless F.Tekke comes like it was said Kezman will have a harder time than last year since tuncay is gone, who used to be like the 2nd striker at times.

[Fener19*07bahce]

i dont get how u can say dievid played a good game, he was no where in offense and gave some lousy passes that ended near goals.

Kezman is just not cut out to be a lone striker, he cant dribble and everytime he tries its so obvious where hes gonna go. And if u notice he takes shots from outside the box that go to goal but have no power so the GK has a really easy time saving it. Unless F.Tekke comes like it was said Kezman will have a harder time than last year since tuncay is gone, who used to be like the 2nd striker at times.
I think i am starting to see the whole Tuncay has left. Because, when our team would always slow down the tempo in the second half. But Tuncay would be the one to pick everybody up. Hopefully appiah will be able to make a good comeback.

[FK SARAJEVO]

Congrats Fenerbahce, you should have no trouble going to Champions League. If Sarajevo does not qualify I will be cheering for Ferer and Besiktas :)

[el Turco]

We played good in the first half, but we sucked in the second. That used to be complete opposite in the Daum's era if you remember. Im wondering if it has to do with conditioning training.

[Cihangir]

Best transfer of Fener is a defence yet the worst part of the team is the defence.
Good thing they won. Congrats!

[cengo]

I dont agree about our defense being the worst part. Our defense is very good when they play simple like last night. Most of the times it's when the midfield doesnt run back that our defense looks helpless.

Looking at yesterdays game our defense was our best side and the attack was the poor side.

Fenerliyim, i dont know what you look at a player when you are judging him but Deivid was one of few who can actually hold on to the ball without panicing. On the contrary of what you said he gave some really good passes....one of them could have ended in a goal if Kezman had shown some quality in his finnishing.

Some of you are so biased against Deivid that you really want him to fail so you can be right about him. But he has turned you people down because he is actually playing decent football.

Same goes for Deniz....he can make 9 good passes out of ten. But that single bad pass is enough for people too boo him on the stands.

That's why i will always stand behind my opinion that 75% of turkish footballfans dont understand the fundementals of football. To them the best players are the ones who score or makes a back heel pass.

Some of you talk so well about Tuncay....i agree i miss his passion. But noone wants to remember his poor passing, his poor dribbling or his poor finnishing. Why do we always miss players who leaves us....the very same players most of us used to bash when they were playing for us?!

The fact is that no matter what Deivid and Deniz does from now on, if they even score 10 goals in one game people will find something to critisize them for. Like we say in Turkish "they will be critisized even if they caught a bírd with their mouth"

People who didnt like Zico last season want him to fail this season to avoid being embarassed by not being behind him from the very beginning.

[Fenerliyim]

when it comes to tuncay, yes tuncay had bad passing, had bad games, even cost us games, but over all tuncay had a more positive effect on the team. Dievid is not a good player.

i watched the game and honestly dievid did not play well, one of his passes almost cost us a goal. for wat 5-6 million euros as his price, and who knows how much we pay, i expected much much more.

As for Deniz, i like deniz but i dont think he is amazing, he is mediocre imo. He is great when it comes to stopping the other teams midfield but his passing/offense sucks. Appiah does the same thing and also helps on offense. Hopefully Appiah will take Deniz's spot when he comes back

[())__Green__))>]

^ still..
Fenerbahce are a great side
i dont see them losing the second leg to Anderlecht
dont you worry, goals will come my friend :)

[cengo]

You are saying that Deivid is not a player....and you are basically exemplifying what i think about turkish footballfans.

Most turkish fans see things in black and white. Either they are good or they are bad....there is nothing in between.

You are saying that a player who has made over 150 goals in the Brazilian league and who has played for Sporting Lissabon is a bad player. How many of our other players has done that?

Deivid has the best ballskills in the team after Alex but somehow that is not good enough. But as i said...once a turkish fan has critisized a player they have to continue doing that to avoid getting embarrassed.

You are saying that you like deniz but that you dont find him amazing....how are you suppose to find a defensive midfielder amazing. His job is mainly to stop the opponents attacks and passes...and he is doing that great. If you want him to be amazing as well...he wouldnt play for Fenerbahce.

Appiah has a very poor defending...please look at him next time he plays. When the opponent has the ball he stands two meters away with a goalkeeping pose and thinks that he is defending. Please check i out next time he plays. Appiah also has a dreadful passing...never have i seen a player making this much money having suck a poor passing. But i like his offensive qualities....but we didnt buy to be an offensive player. After his performance last season i dont understand how you can like him over Deniz who was one of the main figures behind our leaguetitle.

[Fenerliyim]

appiah's perfomance last season was horrible, but his first season was incredible, he was everywhere and played with loads of passion. He saved us many times with his goals, deniz not so much.

imo the best defense is offense. and we already have aurelio there in the back so i think it would be better if we had a player who also helps on offense.

Dievid was a failure at lisbon if i'm not mistaken. he cant prove himself in europe.

[cengo]

I mean Ömer dont you see it for yourself. You are grading players after how many goals they have scored.

Yeah apiah scored more goals but how many more goals have Deniz prevented in our goal?

Let's buy all players who scores plenty of goals then....that's all it takes to become champion i guess.

You are also saying that we have aurelio in the back.

Seriously Ömer...and im not trying to make fun of you in any way but do you honestly think we need another offensive player when Tümer, Alex, kezman, deivid, aurelio and carlos are in the starting line up?

Havent you watched the games this season...aurelio has a more offensive role in the team and you also want Deniz to be more attacking?!

Our weakerst point is the midfield because our wings dont work good enough...especially Tümer and by pushing up Deniz as well we would probably lose all gamed with 5-6 goals margin.

Wasnt Deniz offensive enough in the Bjk game? If im not mistaken he assisted the goal....or was i wrong?

Wasnt Deivid's goal who made us champions?

[Fenerliyim]

our offense is horrible, kezman and dievid are horrible. Kezman cant dribble or shoot long shots with enough power. No GK has trouble stopping it.

Dievid has really started showing himself this summer but if u notice its all against teams from lower leagues, dievid is only effective against weak teams. The goal against bjk he had was very very lucky. He fell, the defenders forgot about him and ran to Alex who just gave him a tap in.

I have noticed Aurelio going more offensively and its working pretty well. R.Carlos is amazing, this guy has great dribbling, great passes, and great cross, but the players who are suppose to finish wat he started just cant do it. he gives great passes but players like kezman just cant hold the ball or shoot effectively, i see R.Carlos shake his head almost every play. Its obvious Kezman and Dievid just dont cut it.

And tumer is a very unconstant player, he might be the hero one game but than hes lost for 3-4 games.

our offense is horrible compared to a couple years ago, we barely score off free kicks or corners anymore. When we used to get a free kick it was like a penalty kick to our team, we scored 90% of the time.

We need better offensive players if u ask me, maybe not more players but better. They definetly need to be replaced.

Defense is important and i believe thats our strongest point. But to win games we need to score goals and we struggle a lot to score

[el Turco]

Briefly, we're playing horrible at the moment. Zico better change some things around, and we better get Fatih Tekke, or this is gonna be a loooong season for us.

[roberto carlos3]

where can i view the highlights?

[el Turco]

Highlights:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RWeb5bAwb0

[gamze]

fenerbahce in kadıkoy wonderful play ,but important, Belgium,