Keep this section in ENGLISH!

[Calif]

I'm sorry guys, I don't understand what the big deal is. If you can speak English, why wouldn't you? It's better for everybody if we all use the one language all of us can understand. I'd rather see one big community, than a community divided by ethnic backgrounds.

This is an english speaking community. Let's keep it that way.

It has always been this way, but lately some moderators (and a certain Senior Mod) have been ignoring the forum rules and made up their own rules as they saw fit without consulting anybody. I don't want that to continue.

Again, I'm not saying you can't speak your native language, I'm just asking you to keep it to the apsolute minimum.

For all of you thinking that every section here operates independently from the rest of the board, I'd like to remind you that all of these sections are parts of SFN. They will be treated with SFN guidelines, and rules.

Ok guys! no more Español comprenden?

[dannymex]

si, aqui no mas se habla ingles... pinches nacos.
ya aprendan a hablar bien el ingles

:D

[Calif]

I honestly don't agree with this rule! Because this is what makes SFN fun well at least for me! I can come here and used both english and spanish. Im not saying im trying to make this section only in English but hey why not used our native language. I think that because of rules like this SFN has been going down and it will keep going down with this kind of rules instead of going up! Thats what I think!

[leonardinho]

:) this is great for me cus i cant speak Spanish to save my life.

[caruiz93]

i dont agree with this rule either...i do unserstand that this is an english speaking website but this is the mexican futbol section and no one come here but us...and we know how to speak spanish,

[leonardinho]

Well im Mexican and i dont know how to speak Spanish but i was raised in the states.

[mawin312]

I honestly don't agree with this rule! Because this is what makes SFN fun well at least for me! I can come here and used both english and spanish. Im not saying im trying to make this section only in English but hey why not used our native language. I think that because of rules like this SFN has been going down and it will keep going down with this kind of rules instead of going up! Thats what I think!

I completely agree, this is the only place where I can practice typing in español. :(

[rojinegro13]

well I guess they have a point but if everyone who comes to the mexican section speaks spanish then whats the problem?what if we get members who dont know english?

[FireFan]

Yo conozco solamente un pequito Espanol... is that right? Well, I don't even know very much Spanish, pero yo puedo usar lo cuando es necesario. Even though the fact this board is in Spanish makes it so I can understand very little of it, I still think you should be allowed to talk in whatever language you want.

[caruiz93]

yeah i agree wiht fire fan......i mean i understand its an english website and the common language is english but if the onl people that come here speak spanish then y change it all of a suddne...i mean it has never been a problem..but i mean if i have to speak english then i will.

[Cihangir]

I agree with this rule but there can be threads for us to speak in our native languages.

[Langbaard]

Creating a subforum for Spanish language or related articles, while you keep the main forum English might be a suggestion.

[Captain Fury]

as long as sinter obeys it too im ok with it, cuz its not fair to just tell us, while sinter the senior mod does not set te example!!

[Cihangir]

Creating a subforum for Spanish language or related articles, while you keep the main forum English might be a suggestion.

That's what I was trying to say. :D

[Captain Fury]

i like that idea

[Xizor]

I don't like this rule, just like mawin said this is the only place where I get to type in Spanish!

[SiN]

I voted No because im cool :)

[leonardinho]

well i dont understand what the big deal is, its only THIS thread that you speak English the others you can speak Spanish all you want its just this one not a big deal.

[Calif]

I voted No because im cool :)
Damn man you are so :cool: :thumbsup:

[SiN]

I hope BOS takes notice of this :)

[Xizor]

He will!

[Bosanac]

This is a multi-cultural football board, most people here come to not only be active in their own ethnic sections but because they can also participate in discussions that's out of their ethnic limits since this forum uses (or used to use) one global language. I really do not want that, which gave us an advantage over other boards, diminishing. Somehow, you guys got that the other way around, I'm as much suprised as I am confused since this rule has always been in effect.

I would be more tempted to be active in this section, but that's nearly impossible seeing that the main language here is Mexican and English is only secondary. As few people stated that they have hard time understanding the discussions here further proves my point.


What do you guys think of a Foreign Languages Section? Would that compensate for this rule to be enforced?

[dannymex]

hahaha first of all we dont speak "mexican" we speak spanish.
and second of all, its not like all the threads are in spanish. The majority of the threads are in english with some spanish, we just want to be able to speak our own languages every now and then. thats all

[Bosanac]

hahaha first of all we dont speak "mexican" we speak spanish.
and second of all, its not like all the threads are in spanish. The majority of the threads are in english with some spanish, we just want to be able to speak our own languages every now and then. thats all


When a non-Spanish person is reading a discussion and when you guys all of a sudden switch to Spanish, it turns them off. I speak from experience. What do you think of a Foreign Languages section?

[Xizor]

No!

[dannymex]

ok yeah i guess your right...

yeah i'm down for a foreign language sections.

as long as there is a place where we can use our native languages i'm happy. :)

[Xizor]

Man that's gay, I don't care I'm still going to be talking Spanish here!

[Bosanac]

No!
Man that's gay, I don't care I'm still going to be talking Spanish here!

Board loses its credibility when forum rules are ignored by their own moderators :sad:

Be a little more open minded, Xizor


ok yeah i guess your right...

yeah i'm down for a foreign language sections.

as long as there is a place where we can use our native languages i'm happy. :)

Thank you for understanding, denny.

To clarify the foreign language section idea;

It would be one section, for all the native language speakers and you guys would have freedom to speak any language you want as much you want. Even create threads in your own language.

[Xizor]

Well you can't keep me from speaking my native language!

[el chingon]

Ok guys! no more Español comprenden?
did you get a PM or was this posted in the moderators section??

[Bosanac]

Well you can't keep me from speaking my native language!

I know. I'm only trying to keep you from 'typing' it. (hehe)

Come on Xizor, get on board. We all know that you eventually will. Besides I never stated that you can't speak your native language, I just asked you to keep it to the minimum.

did you get a PM or was this posted in the moderators section??

Check the Copa America section.

[Xizor]

Man you senior mods just do what you guys want, I'll just go to mediotiempo.com's forums or something!

[Bosanac]

Man you senior mods just do what you guys want, I'll just go to mediotiempo.com's forums or something!


I believe it's the other way around, Xizor. You guys do whatever you want, so loose with the rules. I ask you one thing, you treaten me with leaving, jesus, go ahead.

When I first joined this board, I was warned a few times for speaking my native language. It wasn't allowed than, won't be allowed now.

[el chingon]

Well you can't keep me from speaking my native language!
Same here, ill keep on speaking spanish.

Hey Bosanac you were saying you were going to make a Foreign Language section here in the the Mexican Futbol section.

Well go ahead and make an English section then, because for us that's a foreign language. Most mexicans first language is spanish.

Also you say that speaking spanish will turn away other posters. I think speaking only english will turn away even more posters. The majority of mexicans who don't even know english.

So screw english, from now on ill only speak spanish. I'll start by changing my sig to spanish.

http://www.ex-it.com.ar/misc/images/Se_Habla_Espanol.jpg

[Xizor]

Well why the hell are you so picky about it all of a sudden this crap was never a problem in the past!

[Calif]

Well making a separate forum will not be good! Why don't you do that and move the Mexican Section overthere! I mean where I want to type in spanish is here in the Mexican Futbol Section. I think that It will be whack to go somewhere else and use our foreign language! Naw I don't like that Idea!

[dannymex]

what about a spanish only subforum in the mexican section. That way you can keep the english speaking happy as well as the spanish speaking

[Bosanac]

Same here, ill keep on speaking spanish.

Hey Bosanac you were saying you were going to make a Foreign Language section here in the the Mexican Futbol section.

Well go ahead and make an English section then, because for us that's a foreign language. Most mexicans first language is spanish.

Also you say that speaking spanish will turn away other posters. I think speaking only english will turn away even more posters. The majority of mexicans who don't even know english.

So screw english, from now on ill only speak spanish. I'll start by changing my sig to spanish.


There is not one person here who can't speak English while there are many who can't speak Spanish. As my words were quoted in the first post;

For all of you thinking that every section here operates independently from the rest of the board, I'd like to remind you that all of these sections are parts of SFN. They will be treated with SFN guidelines, and rules.


Well why the hell are you so picky about it all of a sudden this crap was never a problem in the past!

Did you even read my post before this one?

Well making a separate forum will not be good! Why don't you do that and move the Mexican Section overthere! I mean where I want to type in spanish is here in the Mexican Futbol Section. I think that It will be whack to go somewhere else and use our foreign language! Naw I don't like that Idea!

It won't be good for you, and a few Mexicans more. And a lot more members will benefit from this rule being followed.

[el chingon]

Before you start laughing again, the same thing goes for you and the Turkish section.

Whichever section I go to, foreign language is spoken. I'm going to start giving out warnings to those that do.
SFN wont be nothing without the Mexican Futbol Section. We contribute a lot to SFN. We're the most active section.

We're also very dedicated. The SFN fantasy league sucked, but the Mexican Fantasy League is strong and is going on its 2nd season. The SFN prediction also sucks, the Mexican Predictions league is going on its 4th staright season.

SFN can't afford to ban us all.

[Bosanac]

what about a spanish only subforum in the mexican section. That way you can keep the english speaking happy as well as the spanish speaking


Fine. If that will solve this problem, I will create the sub-forum right this second.

[Xizor]

You know how it is dannymex when we think of Chivas, America, Tigres or anything related to Mexico we have to talk in Spanish. This is what I love about this section, I get to type in Spanish with people that have the same interests as I do! So no that woun't work, I agree with you Calif!

[dannymex]

hold on... lets see what everyone else has to say. We're a collective i cant decide for everyone

[el chingon]

what about a spanish only subforum in the mexican section. That way you can keep the english speaking happy as well as the spanish speaking
hell no, if you want make an english sub-forum. not a spanish sub-forum

In the english sub-forum everybody that wants to speak english can just go there.

[Bosanac]

SFN wont be nothing without the Mexican Futbol Section. We contribute a lot to SFN. We're the most active section.

We're also very dedicated. The SFN fantasy league sucked, but the Mexican Fantasy League is strong and is going on its 2nd season. The SFN prediction also sucks, the Mexican Predictions league is going on its 4th staright season.

SFN can't afford to ban us all.


I don't want to ban you all, that is why I'm looking for another solution.

[Calif]

Bosanac well if thats how it will be honestly man! Un-Mod me because I will not be giving out warnings to others using their foreign language.

[dannymex]

hell no, if you want make an english sub-forum. not a spanish sub-forum

In the english sub-forum everybody that wants to speak english can just go there.


i'm just looking for some compromise. Everyone seems to be trashing the idea of an all english forum but no one is throwing out ideas of how we can compromise

[Xizor]

So what your saying is that if Calif_CHIVAS, el chingon, mawin312 and me Xizor(all moderators) keep speaking spanish your going to ban us! :lol:

[Bosanac]

Forget about the English subsection, it wouldn't be active and be a total waste of time. None of you guys would post in there, I want our non-Spanish speaking community to be able to be in discussions with you guys. That is why, I figured, that.. with your value to this board, I could grant you your own sub-section.

[el chingon]

Bosanac well if thats how it will be honestly man! Un-Mod me because I will not be giving out warnings to others using their foreign language.
Well like i said for us our foreign language is english. spanish is my native language.

I dont know about you guys but i grew up with spanish speaking people. The first language i learned is spanish.

[dannymex]

ok.... everyone calm down


Bosanac, is the amount of spanish we use here really that excessive? I mean we usually use a mixture. Why couldnt we just leave things like they are now. I havent seen anyone complain because they couldnt understand... and if someone does then we'll speak english to them, but among us we'd like to speak spanish

[Calif]

Yes danny we use spanglish among us! I don't know I got 2 go c u guys later!

[Xizor]

^^Laters!

[el chingon]

Nota pa el resto de los Mexicanos

Hablar mucho español no les afecta a los que no saben hablar el idioma. Como Stace se acuerdan? antes de que se fuera de SFN el era muy activo aqui. Cuando no entendia algo nomas nos preguntaba. Asi mejoraba mucho mas su español.

Sigan hablanco español aqui, no se asusten de que los vayan a suspender de aqui.

[Xizor]

Me vale verga a mi, yo voy a seguir hablando español!

[Bosanac]

I keep repeating this over and over again, but you guys seem to not read it. You're all taking this too harshly. I never said you can't speak your own native language, but keep it to the minimum. Tone it down. Just enough so that other people who don't speak Spanish can participate in the discussions.

All I'm hearing is, "I'll speak Spanish anyway, I'll speak Spanish anyway". I feel like I'm talking to walls.

I don't see why you're so spitefully disregarding my will to make this section accessible to everyone; not just Mexicans.

PS: I would normally remove these two posts above me, but I will leave it up so you can.. tomorrow when you calm down see how small you're behaving.

[dannymex]

i understand what you are saying...

and i think the spanish is at a minimum, i dont think its excessive and therefore not a problem. So i dont know how this got started anyways

[el chingon]

Close this thread there's no need for it, just look at the poll the people have spoken.

[Bosanac]

Well like i said for us our foreign language is english. spanish is my native language.

I dont know about you guys but i grew up with spanish speaking people. The first language i learned is spanish.
Close this thread there's no need for it, just look at the poll the people have spoken.


This is America

[Bosanac]

i understand what you are saying...

and i think the spanish is at a minimum, i dont think its excessive and therefore not a problem. So i dont know how this got started anyways


It is excessive, denny. To a non-Spanish speaker, it is.

[Xizor]

This is AmericaYeah and we have rights but anyways I'm off see you guys later!

[el chingon]

This is America
Correct, and in America there's more countries that speak spanish.

In America the only big country that speaks english is U.S.

[el chingon]

Just get out of here Bosanac, we're not going to listen to you.

[Bosanac]

Nota pa el resto de los Mexicanos

Hablar mucho español no les afecta a los que no saben hablar el idioma. Como Stace se acuerdan? antes de que se fuera de SFN el era muy activo aqui. Cuando no entendia algo nomas nos preguntaba. Asi mejoraba mucho mas su español.

Sigan hablanco español aqui, no se asusten de que los vayan a suspender de aqui.



Bravo. You're actually telling the Spanish people to disregard forum rules. How I'm glad to have you on my team, this will come back to bite you on the ass.

[dannymex]

This is America


correction. this isnt america. This is the internet and we have members here from all over the world. This a world community not america.

[el chingon]

Bravo. You're actually telling the Spanish people to disregard forum rules. How I'm glad to have you on my team, this will come back to bite you on the ass.
How will it bite me in the ass?? your going to ban me now:lol: :lol:

Vete a la verga.

[Bosanac]

Just get out of here Bosanac, we're not going to listen to you.


You asked me to do this.

[Xizor]

Dude what the hell are you doing, he didn't even do shit fuken fag!

[Bosanac]

correction. this isnt america. This is the internet and we have members here from all over the world. This a world community not america.


This is a Globalized forum, not a colonized one. Global language is English.

[dannymex]

ahhh dude come on.... how could you ban chingon???? he has been here for so long and now you're going to ban him over something ridiculous like this? dont do this your just gonna ruin things for all of us

[Bosanac]

ahhh dude come on.... how could you ban chingon???? he has been here for so long and now you're going to ban him over something ridiculous like this? dont do this your just gonna ruin things for all of us


He only got a 12 hour ban. He asked that everybody disregards forum rules, and told me that he's not going to listen to me despite my best efforts to solve this in a peaceful manner. Little discipline shouldn't hurt.


I'm going to talk to my co-senior mods to get their opinion on what should be done here, untill than.. thread closed.

[Bosanac]

I had a talk with Omar and fortunately (for you guys:)), foreign language does not bother him. However, I have modified the forum rules to bring some clarity to the language rules. Here's the part I added to the forum rules-


LANGUAGE RULES:

Do not speak a foreign language outside the section where that language is considered native. That includes all of the General Football, and SFN Community forums. If you're found in violation of this rule, you will be warned.


My frustration over this was started by the language spoken in the Copa America section, but due to the disrespect I received from some of you guys it got dragged (with Califs help, I might add) to here and other sections. I apologize on my part, but I'm glad we at least now have a certainity as to where you can and where you can't speak a foreign language.

I will not lift chingons ban, but will let it run its course. He will be able to post tomorrow. I strongly believe that his behaviour towards me was ill advised.

In conclusion, foreign language is allowed. But please, for everybodys sake, tone it down a little bit and give the non-Spanish speaking members a chance to participate in your discussions.

[Xizor]

This new rule, did you even talk to your co-senior mods/administrators about it?

[Bosanac]

:nod:


Why, do you have a problem with that too?

[Xizor]

Not if you consulted with the superiors first before giving you the ok!

[Bosanac]

Even if I didn't, I am authorized to edit the rules as I see fit. Reason why I didn't want to do anything rash before was due to the uncertainty of language rules (ex. Fenerliyim was in a way encouraging the use of foreign languages), so by fixing the root of the problem I am sure we won't run into this again.

[Xizor]

That's gay, anyways Calif close this thread man!

[Bosanac]

Really? I think it's pretty neat.

This enables us, Senior Moderators, to adapt the forum rules to the changes it goes through.

But.. if you all of a sudden lost faith in my judgement, too bad. I just hope you don't join the already fairly popular Bosanac-Bashing club. :)

[Xizor]

Really? I think it's pretty neat.
It's not neat!

This enables us, Senior Moderators, to adapt the forum rules to the changes it goes through.

That's why they made a SFN Forum Announcements section so you yourself can post threads regarding changes and Updates to the forum. :)

But.. if you all of a sudden lost faith in my judgement, too bad. I just hope you don't join the already fairly popular Bosanac-Bashing club. :)

Before you start telling us what to do, next time talk to your superiors and get their aproval! Then you can tell us what to do, you just can barge into a forum and tell us we can't speak our native language, that was just wrong in your part!

[Bosanac]

That's why they made a SFN Forum Announcements section so you yourself can post threads regarding changes and Updates to the forum. :)

And that's, in your opinion, gay?


Before you start telling us what to do, next time talk to your superiors and get their aproval! Then you can tell us what to do, you just can barge into a forum and tell us we can't speak our native language, that was just wrong in your part!
As I said, there was an uncertainty in the rule that I can't be blamed for, but now I've shed some light on it. All this trouble, in my opinion, was worth it. Besides, Xizor, I am authorized to change the forum rules. I don't need an approval, I've acted on an instict (as I always do) and refused to acknowledge the uncertainty of the rule. I apologized for that, but don't push it.

[Captain Fury]

Hey bosanac so can you change my name please??

[Albita]

And that's, in your opinion, gay?


As I said, there was an uncertainty in the rule that I can't be blamed for, but now I've shed some light on it. All this trouble, in my opinion, was worth it. Besides, Xizor, I am authorized to change the forum rules. I don't need an approval, I've acted on an instict (as I always do) and refused to acknowledge the uncertainty of the rule. I apologized for that, but don't push it.


Pfsh goes to show what good "instinct" u had basically u banned a sfn member for telling you the way things shud be.
for one theres no reason to get upset and start banning people only because you feel the need to do so. sounds more like ur scared when ur approached with a situation ur are unable to handle.


as u can see the ban of El chingon was and will remain meaningless on ur part. cause in the end it seems like what everyone else said was right u claimed was wrong, ended being an A.O.KAY on the administrators part.

seems to me since you never got it ur way u decided to rewrite a rule. that shud of been left alone from the get go.

Hope your happy with ur decision.
as ive i have read through this whole discussion.
you like smearing ur power as a senior mod on moderators under urself.
doesnt sounds very professional if u ask me.

not that i have much of a say in this. since im still quite new here.


also my native language is spanish. to me being unable to type it in a forum like the Mexican futbol section. :/

not only that but i will say this.
i have visited many threads through out SFN and they all seem to type or speak which ever way u seem to put it. (he..he?) in there navite languages.

this to me was never a big problem, more like it struck you as a big deal
and for some reason took it out on the *cough* Mexican speaking people?.

goes to show once again i will add that ur suppose good instinct was ill placed.

weather or not u agree with me means very little to me
i would ony like to state my opinion on the matter.

i wud like to give a shout out to all the people that posted here in this specific thread on keeping ur native language active.

calif chivas! Xizor! El chingon! caruiz! :]
nice one seriously.

one last thing
Bosanac I'am in no way trying to fight :]
not at all i respect all my senior and...i guess normal moderators.

only stating my O.P

[Bosanac]

Wow.. you guys really do get a certain satisfaction from a person admitting the blame, who by the way should have in no way be blamed. The rule is this, tell me what you make it. Only English is allowed, and than Omar comes and tells me Foreign language does not bother me. What do you make of that?


Pfsh goes to show what good "instinct" u had basically u banned a sfn member for telling you the way things shud be.
for one theres no reason to get upset and start banning people only because you feel the need to do so. sounds more like ur scared when ur approached with a situation ur are unable to handle.


On the other hand, if everybody here were adults we could've all approached this issue with a little more respect and a little less ignorance to even giving the slightest possibility of thought to what I have said. No, no matter what I said, as you see in the thread.. it's like 'NO!, NO!' Stop me if you can! Ban me if you want! We'll all Boycot SFN! I mean come on, what do these people think they are, made of gold? You're all replaceable. The fact I like some of these people helped me not to do what I would normally do in a situation like that. The more understanding I try to be, the more ignorance I see in you people.


as u can see the ban of El chingon was and will remain meaningless on ur part. cause in the end it seems like what everyone else said was right u claimed was wrong, ended being an A.O.KAY on the administrators part.

I banned el chingon due to his choice of abondaning his position of SFN, and turning against the board. Saying "I will not listen to you" or in Spanish "Don't listen to this guy, don't obey the rules" is not good workmanship, I should've taken away his moderator status. But I will let this one go..

seems to me since you never got it ur way u decided to rewrite a rule. that shud of been left alone from the get go.

There is no my way. If this way my way, this forum would work in a perfect harmony. However, too many people are closed minded and scared to adopt to possible changes which would benefit this board and eventually them. They would rather create small groups within the board, and attack each other from time to time which all in all is killing the harmony and the order of the board. I would've consulted Omar about this rule have they been totally acceptable either, since there's a confusion in the rule, but this is what they chose.


Hope your happy with ur decision.
as ive i have read through this whole discussion.
you like smearing ur power as a senior mod on moderators under urself.
doesnt sounds very professional if u ask me.

Seems to me like I don't do it enough, judging by their attitude.


not only that but i will say this.
i have visited many threads through out SFN and they all seem to type or speak which ever way u seem to put it. (he..he?) in there navite languages.

this to me was never a big problem, more like it struck you as a big deal
and for some reason took it out on the *cough* Mexican speaking people?.

If you had actually read and understood every bit than you wouldn't have said this. You see, I never intented for this to be discussed in the Mexican Section. I posted the original thread in the Copa America as it bothered me that I couldn't participate in any of the discussions due to the heavy usage of foreign languages. However, Calif copied the thread here, and here we are. This, in a way, happened because you guys took it upon yourself, so in a way.. You only got what you asked for.


goes to show once again i will add that ur suppose good instinct was ill placed.

I try to look at the positives, I act when I see something wrong. This led to a new definition of the languages rules, and I'm quite happy with that I've done. Besides, it gave me a chance to see another side of our oh so wonderful faces of our mexican moderators.

weather or not u agree with me means very little to me
i would ony like to state my opinion on the matter.

Ahh.. there's that ignorance.


one last thing
Bosanac I'am in no way trying to fight :]
not at all i respect all my senior and...i guess normal moderators.

only stating my O.P

We're just.. talking.

[Xizor]

And that's, in your opinion, gay?

Dude stop trying to confuse me 'cause you woun't succed, I said this was gay:

Even if I didn't, I am authorized to edit the rules as I see fit. Reason why I didn't want to do anything rash before was due to the uncertainty of language rules (ex. Fenerliyim was in a way encouraging the use of foreign languages), so by fixing the root of the problem I am sure we won't run into this again.


As I said, there was an uncertainty in the rule that I can't be blamed for, but now I've shed some light on it. All this trouble, in my opinion, was worth it. Besides, Xizor, I am authorized to change the forum rules. I don't need an approval, I've acted on an instict (as I always do) and refused to acknowledge the uncertainty of the rule. I apologized for that, but don't push it.

Worth it, ha you got all the members of this section fired up just because you acted on your "instinct". Plus you even banned a perfectly good moderator just 'cause you couldn't except what he was trying to say, now you come to us and say that Omar was perfectly fine with us talking in a foreign language. Things did not go well for you their, so you decided to make your own rules which I have no problem with, it just shows that when a sittuation you can handdle doesn't go your way you abuse you powers as a senior mod! So there I'm done with this topic, let's just move on! :hat:

[Bosanac]

Dude stop trying to confuse me 'cause you woun't succed, I said this was gay:

That's why they made a SFN Forum Announcements section so you yourself can post threads regarding changes and Updates to the forum.

There's apsolutely no difference between posting the changes in Forum Announcements or the current Forum Rules thread. They are both to be followed by our moderators. Since there's apsolutely no difference with in which I choose to post, so if the fact I am able to post in one is gay to you, it means mean that.. it is also gay to you if I post in the other.



Worth it, ha you got all the members of this section fired up just because you acted on your "instinct". Plus you even banned a perfectly good moderator just 'cause you couldn't except what he was trying to say, now you come to us and say that Omar was perfectly fine with us talking in a foreign language. Things did not go well for you their, so you decided to make your own rules which I have no problem with, it just shows that when a sittuation you can handdle doesn't go your way you abuse you powers as a senior mod! So there I'm done with this topic, let's just move on! :hat:

I accepted what he said, and I granted him a reward for what he's said.

You see, I don't need to get you confused, you get confused on your own. When you asked me if I consulted anybody before making this rule.. ask yourself- how did I respond?

Now ask yourself- What did you assume due to my arrogance? :)

See, confusion, confusion.

The fact that I stated that I am able to do some things (authorized to change the forum rules without consulting anybody) does not mean that I actually do it, you just assumed I do.. Eventhough, I've already told you I didn't. So, what we got to add to the confusion? Yes, short term memory loss. :)

[Calif]

Got damn! Im gone and I come back and El chingon is banned! Im responsible for this chaos! The rule has been changed! We are ignorants! We are "Mexican Moderators"! Damn! :lol:

[Bosanac]

Got damn! Im gone and I come back and El chingon is banned! Im responsible for this chaos! The rule has been changed! We are ignorants! We are "Mexican Moderators"! Damn! :lol:


No actually, it's still the same. Only .. you can't speak Mexican out of the Mexican section. Which you would agree with, yes?

It makes the most sense, we at least keep the SFN Community and General football in English.

[Calif]

Yeah! Sounds good to me!

[Xizor]

No actually, it's still the same. Only .. you can't speak Mexican out of the Mexican section. Which you would agree with, yes?

It makes the most sense, we at least keep the SFN Community and General football in English.

First off I will point out, would you PLEASE stop reffering the spanish language as Mexico or Mexican, its sounds comepletly racist. Secondly it makes most sense to you to keep the SFN Community in English, the Administrators think otherwise!

[Bosanac]

Secondly it makes most sense to you to keep the SFN Community in English, the Administrators think otherwise!


No, you see, again you didn't understand what I said.

With SFN Community, I meant the group of forums at the top of the board like Away From Football and the Introductions forum. They will strickly be in English as members from all over the board are visitors of those sections.

[valdanito_10]

How will it bite me in the ass?? your going to ban me now:lol: :lol:

Vete a la verga.



If calling an S.mod a verga is no ban worthy, then I dont know hwat is.


I normally go for the neutral, but this is an english speaking forum, we just have to deal with that.

How am I supposed to join a conv if I dont even know what the hell you are talking about. We dont have enough members on the board to start divind us into cultural groups, everyone has to post evrywhere to keep this forum active, and some of you are stopping ppl from participating in threads/topics that might be of some interest to them.

You guys really should respect boss more, telling him to stay out of here is just ridiculous, his job is to overlook the whole forum, and if you cant understand that then.....:shocked:

[Calif]

Well Vald sorry we are all ignorants!

[el Turco]

Wasnt this thread closed?

[Calif]

I thought so! I don't who open it!

[Bosanac]

I opened it in hopes of, again, try to encourage you guys to tone down the use of foreign languages.

You don't have to engage people in a conversation in a foreign language just because it's your native language. I am Bosnian, for example, but what was the last time you see me speak Bosnian?

I don't because when I say something I want it to be understood by everybody who is willing to read.


It's just common sense to speak a global language in a multi-cultural place. One language, so we all can mingle with our differences.

Use of one language across the whole forum would add a lot more color to the board, and eventually attract more members. Don't you want to educate non-Latinos about your football? Speaking English would invite them here.

[el chingon]

I opened it in hopes of, again, try to encourage you guys to tone down the use of foreign languages.


It's just common sense to speak a global language in a multi-cultural place. One language, so we all can mingle with our differences.

Use of one language across the whole forum would add a lot more color to the board, and eventually attract more members. Don't you want to educate non-Latinos about your football? Speaking English would invite them here.
Well close it again, earlier in the thread you said it was worth what you did, but what did you do??? you just came here banned me and got everybody here mad at you for what??

The rule is still the same, so you really didn't do anything.

[el chingon]

I normally go for the neutral, but this is an english speaking forum, we just have to deal with that.

Show me were in the rules it says we can't speak other languages??? There's no rule so you have to either learn spanish or deal with it

[Bosanac]

Well close it again, earlier in the thread you said it was worth what you did, but what did you do??? you just came here banned me and got everybody here mad at you for what??

The rule is still the same, so you really didn't do anything.


You're not allowed to speak foreign languages in General Football or SFN Community categories.


Are you going to give a thought to my suggestion or do I have to lobby and eventually forbid the use of foreign language through-out the forum?

[el chingon]

You're not allowed to speak foreign languages in General Football or SFN Community categories.


Are you going to give a thought to my suggestion or do I have to lobby and eventually forbid the use of foreign language through-out the forum?
In the new rule it said that you can't speak a language in a section that its considered foreign.

Copa America is combined of mostly spanish speaking countries so i dont get how its foreign.

[Bosanac]

In the new rule it said that you can't speak a language in a section that its considered foreign.

Copa America is combined of mostly spanish speaking countries so i dont get how its foreign.


Answer this question:

Are you going to give a thought to my suggestion or do I have to lobby and eventually forbid the use of foreign language through-out the forum?


In the forum rules, I said General Football and SFN Community. Copa America falls under General Football because international tournaments are watched by the whole World not just by Countries participating.

[el chingon]

BTW, before worrying what languages we speak why dont you go and try to work on the update?? When is it going to happen??? you should probably worry about that.

You said speaking foreign languages brings down this site's credibility, i think the senior, administrator etc not doing what they're saying they will do brings the credibility lower then speaking spanish.

[Bosanac]

If you want to talk about this, you're welcome to visit the moderator lounge. For now, don't change the subject.


I'd like my question answered.

I will make sure the foreign languages use is toned down, if not by co-operation than with use of other means. Which road I will take is completely up to you guys.

I have to go now, later.

[el chingon]

ok i will post over in the mod lounge

[valdanito_10]

Well Vald sorry we are all ignorants!
Calif, you should know I never take sides, I go for what i think is right and fair. I never called yolu ignorant.

[Xizor]

Calif, you should know I never take sides, I go for what i think is right and fair. I never called yolu ignorant.


Well Bosanac sure did!

[Calif]

Calif, you should know I never take sides, I go for what i think is right and fair. I never called yolu ignorant.

I know Juan! But some members in here were call ignorants!

[Xizor]

Calif, delete this thread man! We should take this to the mod lounge!

[Bosanac]

Wait on announcements until we have a more clear rule but for now if there is excessive dialogue in other foreign languages you can pop in to discussions and tell people to do more English to get more people involved.


Please, don't excessively use foreign languages.

[valdanito_10]

I know calif, but ointin fingers never works, and I still dont understand why u called me an ignorant, but no worries man.

[Calif]

I know calif, but ointin fingers never works, and I still dont understand why u called me an ignorant, but no worries man.

Juan I didn't call you Ignorant man! My apologies if you thought I call you ignorant! Im not pointing fingers man! Im just putting it outthere not saying names bro!

[valdanito_10]

no probs dude ;)