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Gavmundo
06-25-2007, 11:15 AM
French President Nicolas Sarkozy has called on the world to be "firm" with Sudan if it refuses to co-operate with efforts to end the conflict in Darfur.
He said "silence was killing" in the troubled region, as he opened talks in Paris between the world's major powers.

Some 200,000 people have died and 2.4m fled the violence in Darfur since 2003.

Officials from the US, Europe, China and the Arab League are among those at the conference, but Sudan and the rebel factions are not represented there.

The Sudanese government was not invited, while the African Union is boycotting the conference because it regards the French initiative as a distraction from its own mediation efforts.

'Unacceptable'

Speaking before the start of the conference, Mr Sarkozy called for the swift deployment of thousands of UN peacekeepers to support the current small African Union force presently operating in Darfur.

He also pledged an additional 10m euros ($13.4m) to the AU force.

"The lack of decision and the lack of action are unacceptable."

While Mr Sarkozy praised the Sudanese government for agreeing to the formation of a joint UN-AU peacekeeping force, he insisted it had to make more of an effort to bring peace to Darfur.

"We must be firm toward belligerents who refuse to join the negotiating table," he said.

Massacres

On Sunday, the US Secretary of State, Condoleezza Rice, said the world had failed the people of Darfur.

"I do not think that the international community has really lived up to its responsibilities here," she told a news conference with the new French Foreign Minister, Bernard Kouchner.

The two foreign ministers said there was a need for decisive action.

"If in fact the Sudanese are prepared to accept the hybrid force, they need to accept it once and for all and stop the process of trying to scale it back," Ms Rice said.

Mr Kouchner said there was still time to end the killing.

"I know that it has been going on for years. So what? Is that a reason to not be interested and let the massacres go on forever? Even if the massacres were bigger, they must be stopped," Mr Kouchner added.

Sudan's government denies backing the Arab Janjaweed militias accused of the worst atrocities against Darfur's black African population.

Khartoum says the scale of the problems has been exaggerated for political reasons.

I think Rice's speech about failing the people of Darfur yesterday was a bit pathetic. Everyone knows the major powers have failed the people and the last thing we need to hear are politicans telling us something we already know. The major countries have been a disgrace in this case. It's not so much the world but countries like the U.S, Britain, China, France, Russia, Spain, Germany via the highly ineffective U.N. It's a disgrace that countries only seem to react when it's in their own interests i.e when there's oil or something to gain out of the country. The thought of troops being killed just for protecting PEOPLE just isn't on is it!? What the International community has done (or not done in this case) is disgusting.

The politicians can make all the speech's they want but it's quite clear none of them care. The deployment of an African U.N. force has been completely ineffective. The Sudanese government don't want another force in there even though they say they will accept it (which they haven't) but who cares what the Sudan Government wants? Did America care what the Iraqi government (prior to the Gulf War) wanted? Do they care what the Iranian government wants? Send a real U.N. force in there now and at least try to save some people. The governments of "the world" have allowed enough people to be murdered already. They have blood on their hands although that's nothing new.

Wabbit
10-09-2007, 06:00 AM
Ive recently represented Sudan in a UN univ model and I must say that things r not always what they seem. The conflict in Darfur goes beyond humans power. Sudan goverment is as useless as the UN, that sends Hirbids troops, to pretect ppl with the order of not to kill any citizen! and 10 the soldiers died as it was expected, the UN cant fix this conflict. And Sudan is doing good by not letting them to get in the middle of it, cause if they do, then they'll ended up just like Iraq, invaded by the stupid United states, cause of the oil.
Whats going on in Darfur is nothing but an etnich war, blacks vs arabians. Is an "etnich cleaning" it has been for the past 4 years, and only Ala knows when it will end.

Saraj Fanático
10-09-2007, 08:53 PM
This reminds me of the Bosnian War. All the world powers talking but refusing to take action until the destruction is already made. The World Powers have failed us all.

Wabbit
10-09-2007, 09:07 PM
No kidding on that one.

Fenerliyim
10-09-2007, 09:32 PM
This reminds me of the Bosnian War. All the world powers talking but refusing to take action until the destruction is already made. The World Powers have failed us all.

sometimes the solution is not to do anything.

Saraj Fanático
10-09-2007, 09:33 PM
^ Are you kidding or?

Wabbit
10-09-2007, 09:54 PM
Well if u think about it...tho if u do nothing it could only get worse, but if u do somthing about it, then u never know if its for good or for worse. Everyone knows that going to the extremes is just not good.

Saraj Fanático
10-09-2007, 09:58 PM
Sitting back and watching an entire population being wiped out is just a disgrace. No reason to tolerate genocide no matter what.

Wabbit
10-09-2007, 10:10 PM
I agree, but what can countries do when the UN itself, can't or is not allow to interfere and fix that? Cause if Ban Ki-moon declares whats going on on Darfur as a genocide, the UN is in its right to intervene. But of course, China ( one of the 8 countries that has permanent vote on the UN security council) is the 1st ally wont let that happen or else they lose their number 1 guns client.
Ppl dies, and all first nations care about is how many do they lose or win. Money moves the world. u_u

Saraj Fanático
10-09-2007, 10:13 PM
Well said! And the last quote is well put also.

Wabbit
10-09-2007, 10:25 PM
Thanks!

Bosnian Unit
10-10-2007, 07:52 PM
Bunch of BS........


Im sick of that......why at least regular people dont get that !

NOBADY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AFRICA !

They all can talk about bunch of crap, but thats all they do talking about it.....nobady is trying to help becouse they DONT CARE.

Africa is richest continent.....oil,gold and bunch of other stuff.......and white man wants to keep them poor so they can get that for free or for some money. Thats why they infected them with all those desises and everything.

AIDS came from American labaratory, when 10.000 or so doctors where send to help Africans in Burkina Faso,Siera Leone,Zimbabwe,S.Africa etc...but they didnt even know they where infecting them with a desise that will later on become one of the deadliest.

Wars, killings and everything that is happening there is a great thing for a WHITE MAN......Thats their goal.

Im sick of those leaders talking about all that......but they can easily do whatever they want to about it.......After all is white man.....Western Europe and USA that is supporting all those wars.....YOU WOULD NOT EVEN BELIVE WHAT IS GOING ON BEHAIND CLOSED DOORS.

Blood diamond a movie, is the one you need to see if you didnt......but you need to understand a move not just see it !

Dinoinho
10-30-2007, 05:20 AM
Its true, Africa has been long forgotten by white people, they just step in when there can be a profit for them, but I dont think Darfur has much, or any oil. No one will step in, and they might, but by then there will be atleast 500k people dead.

poutismalakas
10-30-2007, 04:35 PM
Bunch of BS........


Im sick of that......why at least regular people dont get that !

NOBADY GIVES A SHIT ABOUT AFRICA !

They all can talk about bunch of crap, but thats all they do talking about it.....nobady is trying to help becouse they DONT CARE.

Africa is richest continent.....oil,gold and bunch of other stuff.......and white man wants to keep them poor so they can get that for free or for some money. Thats why they infected them with all those desises and everything.

AIDS came from American labaratory, when 10.000 or so doctors where send to help Africans in Burkina Faso,Siera Leone,Zimbabwe,S.Africa etc...but they didnt even know they where infecting them with a desise that will later on become one of the deadliest.
whatever they want to about it.......After all is white man.....Western Europe and USA that is supporting all those wars.....YOU WOULD NOT EVEN BELIVE WHAT IS GOING ON BEHAIND CLOSED DOORS.

Wars, killings and everything that is happening there is a great thing for a WHITE MAN......Thats their goal.

Im sick of those leaders talking about all that......but they can easily do
Blood diamond a movie, is the one you need to see if you didnt......but you need to understand a move not just see it !

So since no one cares we are just going to sit on ours hands and let genocide happen?

PAO_HELLAS
10-30-2007, 04:42 PM
No it's good people in USA and UK are concerned about the situation in Darfur. But they should have the same sensitivity about the situation in Iraq and Afghanistan. Things there aren't better at all.

But I forgot, according to their media what's going on on Iraq and Afghanistan is a war on terror, while the situation in Darfur is a genocide :rolleyes:.

Pape
10-30-2007, 04:56 PM
You are as good to the West as the natural resources that you provide.

poutismalakas
10-30-2007, 04:57 PM
You are as good to the West as the natural resources that you provide.
Unfortunately that the most acturate statement made here. :(