From Bosnian Child Soldier to U.S. Army Leader

[Bosnian Unit]

From Bosnian Child Soldier to U.S. Army Leader


By Jason Chudy,
Stars and Stripes European Edition


Everything about Staff Sgt. Adin Salkanovic says soldier.

His clear, deliberate speech, close-cropped hair and serious demeanor give him an air of authority usually reserved for those with a lifetime of military experience, not five years of U.S. Army service.

Those five years don’t tell the whole story, though.

When he was only 14, Salkanovic spent a year in the Bosnian army, fighting Serbian forces that surrounded his hometown of Sarajevo for 3½ years between 1992 and 1995.

“I volunteered many times but because of my age they said, ‘no,’” said Salkanovic, 24, who now serves as a scout with Troop F, 9th Cavalry, in Baghdad. “But I kept volunteering, I was one of those guys who wanted to see some action.”

Finally, the army relented and Salkanovic became a soldier, first proving himself by working with radios or carrying ammunition. After a few months he moved to the front lines, which were less than 1½ miles from his home.

“It was World War I-style fighting, trench warfare,” he said. “There were a lot of mortar attacks, howitzers and tanks — a lot of armor got involved. Both sides took a lot of casualties from the minefields and snipers.”

After about a year of fighting, Salkanovic’s father was wounded in battle.

“I kind of quit after my dad was injured,” he said. “I had to take care of my family. I had volunteered in the first place and they understood that I could walk out at any time because of my age.”

Salkanovic was the middle of three children and the oldest son, so it fell on him to provide for the family. He ran the household for two years until the family emigrated to the United States in 1995 to get medical help for his sister, who had a severe case of scoliosis.

Salkanovic’s family settled in San Jose, Calif., and while his sister received medical treatment, he attended school.

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U.S. Army Staff Sgt. Adin Salkanovic talks about his year as a child soldier in the Bosnian Army. When he was 14, Salkanovic fought Serb forces that surrounded his hometown of Sarajevo, only quitting after his father was wounded in action. (Photo by Enes Dulami, Stars and Stripes)


“I was lost for three months,” he said. Neither he nor his siblings spoke English. “I would guess what they were saying from one or two words and piece it together. After three months we all kind of felt comfortable speaking English.”

Once his sister’s two surgeries were complete, Salkanovic’s family decided to move back to Sarajevo, then part of Bosnia and Herzegovina, in 1997.

I told my dad I wasn’t going to stay,” Salkanovic said. He returned to San Jose, working construction jobs until he finished high school.

“As soon as I got my high school diploma I joined the Army,” he said. “I thought I would enjoy it.”

He said the Army gave him no special consideration for his time as a child soldier. He still had to go through basic training.

And he found the U.S. Army quite different from the Bosnian army.

“As far as training, discipline and equipment … you can’t compare it,” he said. The Bosnian army “was a regular army, just lacking in uniformity. Every battalion had their own uniform and standards.”

In 2001, he was assigned to 3rd Battalion, 8th Cavalry, deploying twice to Kuwait right before and right after Sept. 11, 2001. When Troop F was created, Salkanovic joined the unit, which is now deployed to Camp Grey Wolf in the International Zone.

Salkanovic’s history as a child soldier followed him into the unit, but he doesn’t tell many war stories.

“He doesn’t talk about it unless you ask,” said Troop F 1st Sgt. Kirby Carter. “Guys who’ve seen bad stuff don’t talk about it. If they talk about it, they’ve usually had to embellish it.”

Carter said that Salkanovic doesn’t tell stories about combat, but shares his past combat experience in other ways.

“He’s a real good leader,” Carter said. “When he gets out of the gate, he flips a switch and he’s ready for combat.”

“He knows a lot,” said Pfc. Joseph Stark, who is part of his scout squad. “It helps. I’d rather go out with someone who’s been in combat before.”

Carter said that Salkanovic’s squad has seen some serious combat in its nearly six months in Iraq.

Shortly after its arrival, the squad fought through a 4½-mile long coordinated ambush in Abu Ghraib and manned the Baghdad International Airport perimeter when it came under attack, later clearing the buildings that had housed the enemy fighters.

“It just clicked over the first time we got engaged,” said Salkanovic about returning to combat. “It’s just like riding a bicycle.”

“Anyone who fought in a war at 14 will be more mature than your average young sergeant,” Carter said. “We got a lot of young NCOs who came as specialists or young sergeants and grew into real good staff sergeants and will be the future of the NCO corps.”

Salkanovic said he hopes to make the U.S. Army a career.

“I’ve picked a job I like, and it fits my capabilities and personality,” he said.

[Centarfor9]

there is only one country he should be risking his life for http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5084/untitledeb3.png (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/)

[Cihangir]

Those guys make me sick.

[el Turco]

there is only one country he should be risking his life for http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/5084/untitledeb3.png (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/)

:thumb:

exactly.

[Pape]

I saw a Bosnian guy Sunday who just came back from Iraq serving for U.S. Army, man he was a dooshebag trying to convince us to make the mistake he made.

[Saraj Fanático]

F*** you! F*** you Salkanovic!


Traitor...

[Sema]

When I was in New York about a year ago, I was at my cousins graduation. And there were a lot of Bosnians graduating since Utica has a large Bosnian population. And there was 1 Bosnian graduate who was going right into the military from high school, and when he was called up, only the Americans clapped for him lol. (And his parents).

As for me....I'm not risking my life for any country.

[Cihangir]

Yes, there are a lot of examples.

[Saraj Fanático]

Brainwashed Bosnians..... What a disgrace they are.

[poutismalakas]

F*** you! F*** you Salkanovic!


Traitor...
did the US save your ass????? So what if he serves the US army?? He holds US citizenship so he is fighting for his country

[Centarfor9]

did the US save your ass?????
nope

[Centarfor9]

guys don't judge this dude

he was a solider even when he was young and that it seems to be his calling

anyway bosnia needs connections everywhere so we can counter the connections our enemies might have (and we do have a lot of enemies)


As for me....I'm not risking my life for any country.
that's why you Sema

[Centarfor9]

F*** you! F*** you Salkanovic!


Traitor...
:faint2:

You make no sense :boo:

and you have lost all respect i had for you

he left in 95 to save his sister's life


Brainwashed Bosnians..... What a disgrace they are.

on je bijo tu kad je bilo najteze :sad:

reci ja sam bio s bosnom kad je bilo najteze

[Cihangir]

did the US save your ass????? So what if he serves the US army?? He holds US citizenship so he is fighting for his country

Saved who's ass man? It was the longest siege of the modern history of warfare and USA simply directed it. No one cared for Bosnians since they were Muslims and had to be exterminated. The "peace" agreement only came when Bosnian army came closest to invade Banja Luka, the castle of the Serbs. A lot of Greeks fought there too, became a part of the atrocities against humanity.
He became the part of that kind of an organization, the US army, by his earthly mind and that's sickening.

[el Turco]

Saved who's ass man? It was the longest siege of the modern history of warfare and USA simply directed it. No one cared for Bosnians since they were Muslims and had to be exterminated. The "peace" agreement only came when Bosnian army came closest to invade Banja Luka, the castle of the Serbs. A lot of Greeks fought there too, became a part of the atrocities against humanity. He became the part of that kind of an organization, the US army, by his earthly mind and that's sickening.

:thumb:

guys don't judge this dude

he was a solider even when he was young and that it seems to be his calling

anyway bosnia needs connections everywhere so we can counter the connections our enemies might have (and we do have a lot of enemies)



that's why you Sema

I cant respect a man who kills many innocent people, because Mr. Bush wants so, im sorry.

And u think that one guy can make all the connections. I dont think so. :)

[poutismalakas]

Saved who's ass man? It was the longest siege of the modern history of warfare and USA simply directed it. No one cared for Bosnians since they were Muslims and had to be exterminated. The "peace" agreement only came when Bosnian army came closest to invade Banja Luka, the castle of the Serbs. A lot of Greeks fought there too, became a part of the atrocities against humanity.
He became the part of that kind of an organization, the US army, by his earthly mind and that's sickening.
Also please DON'T tell me anything about no one not caring about Musilms cause

NICE coming from a member of the nation that KILLED MILLIONS of Christians!!

[el Turco]

Also please DON'T tell me anything about no one not caring about Musilms cause

NICE coming from a member of the nation that KILLED MILLIONS of Christians!!

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

i wasnt in mood for laughing, but thanks for making me to do so. Really appreciated.

Im really proud of coming from a nation that collapsed the one of the biggest of all time, Byzantine Empire. :)

You started it. :)

[Centarfor9]

Also please DON'T tell me anything about no one not caring about Musilms cause

NICE coming from a member of the nation that KILLED MILLIONS of Christians!!
you deserve a warning for that

his post was not in that nature


Saved who's ass man? It was the longest siege of the modern history of warfare and USA simply directed it. No one cared for Bosnians since they were Muslims and had to be exterminated. The "peace" agreement only came when Bosnian army came closest to invade Banja Luka, the castle of the Serbs. A lot of Greeks fought there too, became a part of the atrocities against humanity.
He became the part of that kind of an organization, the US army, by his earthly mind and that's sickening.


what you have done is an direct insult and a very cheap one

[poutismalakas]

The truth hurts the MOST!

[el Turco]

The truth hurts the MOST!

it must, right? :)


(experience talks :) )

[poutismalakas]

it must, right? :)
Yes just ask the Armenians, Ayssrians, Pontic, Ionian Greeks:sad:

[el Turco]

Yes just ask the Armenians, Ayssrians, Pontic, Ionian Greeks:sad:

Do u really wanna go far with this. Because, i can if i want to, but i just dont wanna start anything that might bother other ppl in here.

So, do you or not?

(And I expect an apology)

[Centarfor9]

The truth hurts the MOST!
no no

you made the post personal insult

by saying

NICE coming from a member of the nation that KILLED MILLIONS of Christians!!


you made it look like he did it (like he was the member in the atrocities that happened)

just to win an agrument or defeat his or something ...or insult or provoke him or all of the above hmm

[poutismalakas]

no no

you made the post personal insult

by saying




you made it look like he did it (like he was the member in the atrocities that happened)

just to win an agrument or defeat his or something

Am I NOT a member of a Nation that had other members that commited crimes against humanity? Greek Neo-Nazi group Golden Dawn had members who volanteered in the Bosian War! That is the truth! That DOES NOT MEAN I was involved! That IS WHAT I MEANT!

[Cihangir]

@FenerFan: Lol he's like YouTube Greeks.
@poutismalakas: Look pal, I'm not a biased Muslim, plus there is not one proof that should indicate you my religion, or an anti-Greek piece of Turkish nationalist. I'm talking about a particular event which has happened and the whole world watched.
Why are you blaming me for coming from a nation who has killed millions of Christians? I'm not proud of that and Greeks should not be proud of how much Turks they killed.
There can only be a decent talk if you can get over this tradition of hate towards Turks.

[poutismalakas]

(And I expect an apology)

I just find it annoying that tons of people scream about how for example no one cared about Bosnians because they where muslims!

BULLSHIT!!!

No ONE care because there was NOTHING the powers wanted! Just look at Africa MILLIONS died in the 90's and NO ONE cared! Sudan has Northern Sudanese Muslims who raped starve and force convert southern Sudanese! Nothing is done because they have nothing the powers want! Face it Iraq has something that the powers want..OIL!

Vietnam was NOT about communism!!! It was about Rubber!!! The moment that we could create synthetic rubber.. The war ends! Sad but true!!!!! The powers MAKES $$$$ off the sorrows of MILLIONS!! The powers have ONE GOD...MONEY!

[Centarfor9]

I just find it annoying that tons of people scream about how for example no one cared about Bosnians because they where muslims!

BULLSHIT!!!

No ONE care because there was NOTHING the powers wanted! Just look at Africa MILLIONS died in the 90's and NO ONE cared! Sudan has Northern Sudanese Muslims who raped starve and force convert southern Sudanese! Nothing is done because they have nothing the powers want! Face it Iraq has something that the powers want..OIL!

Vietnam was NOT about communism!!! It was about Rubber!!! The moment that we could create synthetic rubber.. The war ends! Sad but true!!!!! The powers MAKES $$$$ off the sorrows of MILLIONS!! The powers have ONE GOD...MONEY!

that all might be true (i will not go on your word --- not after that post)

---and you could have said that (instead of that you posted)

but you still said this

NICE coming from a member of the nation that KILLED MILLIONS of Christians!!

which is not only wrong but bannable for things i stated in other posts

[poutismalakas]

which is not only wrong but bannable for things i stated in other posts
Bannable? NO warning yes! So I accept a warning! pm fener

[el Turco]

I just find it annoying that tons of people scream about how for example no one cared about Bosnians because they where muslims!

BULLSHIT!!!

No ONE care because there was NOTHING the powers wanted! Just look at Africa MILLIONS died in the 90's and NO ONE cared! Sudan has Northern Sudanese Muslims who raped starve and force convert southern Sudanese! Nothing is done because they have nothing the powers want! Face it Iraq has something that the powers want..OIL!

Vietnam was NOT about communism!!! It was about Rubber!!! The moment that we could create synthetic rubber.. The war ends! Sad but true!!!!! The powers MAKES $$$$ off the sorrows of MILLIONS!! The powers have ONE GOD...MONEY!

and that gives you right to post something like this?



NICE coming from a member of the nation that KILLED MILLIONS of Christians!!

[Centarfor9]

Am I NOT a member of a Nation that had other members that commited crimes against humanity? Greek Neo-Nazi group Golden Dawn had members who volanteered in the Bosian War! That is the truth! That DOES NOT MEAN I was involved! That IS WHAT I MEANT!
i don't know was that a nazi group

but it wouldn't make sense that they were (for very very obvious reasons for which i will not get into since it will sidetrack from the personal attack you made on the dude)

also he didn't say that you were involved or member of the group or did he try to put any guilt trip on you i.e he didn't attack or insult you

[poutismalakas]

Pm fener! Alright! If he feels I deserve a warning he will give me one! Also He is Turkish! OK

[Centarfor9]

Bannable? NO warning yes! So I accept a warning! pm fener
i meant to say a warning that follows the guidlines

[poutismalakas]

i don't know was that a nazi group

but it wouldn't make sense that they were (for obvious reasons for which i will not get into since it will sidetrack from the personal attack you made on the dude)

also he didn't say that you were involved or member of the group or did he try to put any guilt trip on you
Golden Dawn WAS a Neo-Nazi group who was anti-anything against what the viewed as pure Hellas! several members are suspected of being involved in the Bosnian War!

Also I admit I overreached!! So YES Im sorry AND I deserve a warning!!!!!! I don't think I can warn myself!

[Centarfor9]

Pm fener! Alright! If he feels I deserve a warning he will give me one! Also He is Turkish! OK
dude just give yourself a warning you are a Mod of this section

and please don't shame yourself even more by stooping even lower

by saying "Also He is Turkish!" just accept you were wrong

i have been wrong at this forum (not at this level) but i have accepted my wrongs sayed that i was wrong and moved on

[poutismalakas]

dude just give yourself a warning you are a Mod of this section

and please don't shame yourself even more by stooping even lower

by saying "Also He is Turkish!" just accept you were wrong

i have been wrong at this forum (not at this level) but i have accepted my wrongs sayed that i was wrong and moved on
I have never tried to warn myself and fener is my co-mod! I used the Turkish part to imply he would NOT be baised to a fellow mod!

[Centarfor9]

Golden Dawn WAS a Neo-Nazi group who was anti-anything against what the viewed as pure Hellas! several members are suspected of being involved in the Bosnian War!

Also I admit I overreached!! So YES Im sorry AND I deserve a warning!!!!!! I don't think I can warn myself!
i don't know the names you just said and the sources that you got your information from but that is not the issue (nor is it an issue do i agree with you on that subject)

you could have stated that and not the other

[poutismalakas]

ok warned myself!

[el Turco]

i have been wrong at this forum (not at this level) but i have accepted my wrongs sayed that i was wrong and moved on

How many times have we seen that? Cant be too many. :D

(Just kiddin)

So YES Im sorry

thank you. :)

[poutismalakas]

i don't know the names you just said and the sources that you got your information from but that is not the issue (nor is it an issue do i agree with you on that subject)

you could have stated that and not the other
I fould my source here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrisi_Avgi

[Centarfor9]

I have never tried to warn myself and fener is my co-mod! I used the Turkish part to imply he would NOT be baised to a fellow mod!
i don't know what kind of biases he has (i.e. where they go)

in my books you did a wrong

(i'm not sure about the other guy)

[Centarfor9]

I fould my source here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hrisi_Avgi
again that is a Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece) far right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right) nationalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism) party (i'm not sure what is their representation in the Greek government and what it was at the time of the genocide)

also just to claim that they were the only Greeks taking part in the genocides, ethnic cleansings, crimes against humanity is far-fetched

not all serbs commited genocide there was serbian radical party, Milosevice's party and some others but the rest did not take part

Again you are side tracking from the issue (you could have said all that then)

and also you are bringing this thread way off topic

[Sema]

that's why you Sema

??

That's why I Sema?

[Centarfor9]

??

That's why I Sema?
i meant to say

that's why you are you

[poutismalakas]

again that is a Greek (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greece) far right (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Far_right) nationalist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationalism) party (i'm not sure what is their representation in the Greek government and what it was at the time of the genocide)

also just to claim that they were the only Greeks taking part in the genocides, ethnic cleansings, crimes against humanity is far-fetched

not all serbs commited genocide there was serbian radical party, Milosevice's party and some others but the rest did not take part

Again you are side tracking from the issue (you could have said all that then)

and also you are bringing this thread way off topicPLEASE stop nickpicking me! I am just explaining to you who Golden Dawn was! Also Golden dawn was a large group! And NO other group to my knowledge has involve and also I DID NOT bring in the part about Greeks being involved in the Bosian War! It was Cihangir who brought the thread off topic!! I am quilty of running with it!

[Sema]

i meant to say

that's why you are you

Oh, alright lol.

[Centarfor9]

PLEASE stop nickpicking me! I am just explaining to you who Golden Dawn was! Also Golden dawn was a large group! And NO other group to my knowledge has involve and also I DID NOT bring in the part about Greeks being involved in the Bosian War! It was Cihangir who brought the thread off topic!! I am quilty of running with it!
key word to your knowledge

the fact that they are large group or a party is troublesome

you ran with it certainly

my intention was not to run i.e. be in discussion about the Greek involment in atroceties and genocide

i think i have pointed that out

i simply pointed out a wrong but somehow we got here <--- that is done and so i am done with that

[Cihangir]

PLEASE stop nickpicking me! I am just explaining to you who Golden Dawn was! Also Golden dawn was a large group! And NO other group to my knowledge has involve and also I DID NOT bring in the part about Greeks being involved in the Bosian War! It was Cihangir who brought the thread off topic!! I am quilty of running with it!

Man all topics contain numerous off-topic convos. You just over-reacted which is due to this never ending tension between Turks and Greeks.
Let's just stop this.

[poutismalakas]

Man all topics contain numerous off-topic convos. You just over-reacted which is due to this never ending tension between Turks and Greeks.Let's just stop this.
I agree with you 100%

OK friends now??


Also you guys want me to delete the nontopic posts?

[Saraj Fanático]

did the US save your ass????? So what if he serves the US army?? He holds US citizenship so he is fighting for his country


What! :lol:

US Saves us! HAHAH! No No No your right. The US waited 3 years for Bosnians to kill each other and commit mass genocide on each other but at the end they did save us! :lol:

Us didn't save shit. If anything they saved the system that is destroying our nation today.

This is who saved us!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Armija_BiH.svg/200px-Armija_BiH.svg.png

[Centarfor9]

Also you guys want me to delete the nontopic posts?
no you should create a thread

with name related to the topic that was discussed here (the topic that was off topic here)

kind of like bosanac created that thread funny pictures by taking the off topic pictures and post form the members pictures thread

[Centarfor9]

What! :lol:

US Saves us! HAHAH! No No No your right. The US waited 3 years for Bosnians to kill each other and commit mass genocide on each other but at the end they did save us! :lol:

Us didn't save shit. If anything they saved the system that is destroying our nation today.

This is who saved us!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Armija_BiH.svg/200px-Armija_BiH.svg.png

United States helped us at the end but it was kind of too late

i.e. they didn't save anybody (everything happened before our military action to bring peace and to free our nation) but they did help with air cover for our and croatian troops (that were involved in the action to free bosnia)

[Saraj Fanático]

:faint2:

You make no sense :boo:

and you have lost all respect i had for you

he left in 95 to save his sister's life

You had respect for anyone? :lol: Thats new!

Make no sense? He as a Bosnian not to mention Bosniak should never attack any other peoples land and shouldn't serve the ones who have as much responsibility on their hands as the killers during the Bosnian War.

As Bosnians if we learned anything is not to support war and not serve for violent and cowardly acts. I learned that, most of us did. Some traitors didn't.


on je bijo tu kad je bilo najteze :sad:

reci ja sam bio s bosnom kad je bilo najteze

A ja nisam? Ako je covijek dozivijo najgore zasto to zeli drugima? On je djubre! Zeli dati svoj zivot za Amercki rat za naftu. Majku mu.

[Cihangir]

What! :lol:

US Saves us! HAHAH! No No No your right. The US waited 3 years for Bosnians to kill each other and commit mass genocide on each other but at the end they did save us! :lol:

Us didn't save shit. If anything they saved the system that is destroying our nation today.

This is who saved us!

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/4c/Armija_BiH.svg/200px-Armija_BiH.svg.png

*sings*
bosnom behar probeharao
mene zivot razocarao
svuda behar na nju mirise
a ja uzdisem

[Cihangir]

I agree with you 100%

OK friends now??


Also you guys want me to delete the nontopic posts?

Yeh sure, why not.

[Saraj Fanático]

United States helped us at the end but it was kind of too late

i.e. they didn't save anybody (everything happened before our military action to bring peace and to free our nation) but they did help with air cover for our and croatian troops (that were involved in the action to free bosnia)

US helped us? They threatened to bombard us if we didn't stop the push to Banja Luka. Air support!? :lol: :lol: :lol: Okay go to sleep now.

US was involved in the action to completely erase an entire Ethnic population. Thats the only early action they ever participated in.

They could have saved thousands of life's and stop the terrorism within our nation. But they waited 3 years for them to finish us off. All they ever did with Europe is the same shit they did during the genocide in Rwanda, and now Sudan...Talk. All they ever did was talk but they knew what they wanted.


This goes beyond the tragedy of our nation. Look at their history, it all leads back to death and construction.

I would rather die then bow down to their propaganda and accept it. I know what happened and I know who was involved for the mass slaughter of all Bosnians.

[Centarfor9]

You had respect for anyone? :lol: Thats new!
then nothing happaned


Make no sense? He as a Bosnian not to mention Bosniak should never attack any other peoples land and shouldn't serve the ones who have as much responsibility on their hands as the killers during the Bosnian War.

As Bosnians if we learned anything is not to support war and not serve for violent and cowardly acts. I learned that, most of us did. Some traitors didn't.
that might be true

but it does have nothing to do with the personal comment i told you --- i provided my reasons for that


A ja nisam?
i didn't say you weren't in bosnia at that time

[quote=FC. Sarajevo'Ako je covijek dozivijo najgore zasto to zeli drugima? On je djubre! Zeli dati svoj zivot za Amercki rat za naftu. Majku mu.[/quote]
wars are usually fought over resources

and i'm not familiar with the Iraq war so i don't know who is he fighting or who are they and what they want

i also don't know the exact reason why U.S.A. went to war

but it has many many many many ... many reasons

i think it's a mistake cuz U.S.A. overstreched their army and resources

there are many other places where they could have used their army

it looks like there won't be much benifit fot U.S.A. from Iraq

but who knows maybe things work out and everybody is happy

[Centarfor9]

US helped us? They threatened to bombard us if we didn't stop the push to Banja Luka. Air support!? :lol: :lol: :lol: Okay go to sleep now.

US was involved in the action to completely erase an entire Ethnic population. Thats the only early action they ever participated in.

They could have saved thousands of life's and stop the terrorism within our nation. But they waited 3 years for them to finish us off. All they ever did with Europe is the same shit they did during the genocide in Rwanda, and now Sudan...Talk. All they ever did was talk but they knew what they wanted.


This goes beyond the tragedy of our nation. Look at their history, it all leads back to death and construction.

I would rather die then bow down to their propaganda and accept it. I know what happened and I know who was involved for the mass slaughter of all Bosnians.
now i already mentioned that i didn't say that you weren't in bosnia at that time

there is no need for you to try to prove yourself and make some phony statements

[Pape]

Are you guys blind? I don't think he fights for any country, as that article said at age 14 he just wanted to get out there and get some action. I think he is more of a military nut than a freedom fighter or whatever you wanna call it, a patriot?

[Saraj Fanático]

then nothing happaned


that might be true

but it does have nothing to do with the personal comment i told you --- i provided my reasons for that


i didn't say you weren't in bosnia at that time


wars are usually fought over resources

and i'm not familiar with the Iraq war so i don't know who is he fighting or who are they and what they want

i also don't know the exact reason why U.S.A. went to war

but it has many many many many ... many reasons

i think it's a mistake cuz U.S.A. overstreched their army and resources

there are many other places where they could have used their army

it looks like there won't be much benifit fot U.S.A. from Iraq

but who knows maybe things work out and everybody is happy

As an Bosnians I love humanity. I would never wish to go fight against people who have done nothing to me or to my people. The only time I would have the guts to take a live is in defense other then that I would hate myself for wanting to travel around the world shooting people who have done absolutely nothing to threaten me or my family. The War in Iraq is all for Oil and for the economic growth of the US. They kill for their own needs. Its a criminal war. And whoever wants to actually join it is helping out the criminal masterminds of the war.

I am disappointed at this man and I won't ever see him as a fellow Bosnian. Because there is no justification for his decision to go and join a war that has killed thousands of poor people. There just isn't. May god have mercy on his soul for all of this.

[Centarfor9]

Are you guys blind? I don't think he fights for any country, as that article said at age 14 he just wanted to get out there and get some action. I think he is more of a military nut than a freedom fighter or whatever you wanna call it, a patriot?
i tried to make FC. aware of that but i hope you have better luck lol

p.s. hoces igrat pokera :D Amer pobjego pa i ja a malo smo bili zakuhljali :lol:

[Fenerliyim]

god i am never approving one of bunits threads again, always cause a disturbance somehow

[Saraj Fanático]

Are you guys blind? I don't think he fights for any country, as that article said at age 14 he just wanted to get out there and get some action. I think he is more of a military nut than a freedom fighter or whatever you wanna call it, a patriot?

Thats just makes him more of an idiot then he really is. :lol:

[Pape]

i tried to make FC. aware of that but i hope you have better luck lol

p.s. hoces igrat pokera :D Amer pobjego pa i ja a malo smo bili zakuhljali :lol:

nemogu imam neke zadace sto bi trebo uradit :lol:

[Centarfor9]

As an Bosnians I love humanity. I would never wish to go fight against people who have done nothing to me or to my people. The only time I would have the guts to take a live is in defense other then that I would hate myself for wanting to travel around the world shooting people who have done absolutely nothing to threaten me or my family. The War in Iraq is all for Oil and for the economic growth of the US. They kill for their own needs. Its a criminal war. And whoever wants to actually join it is helping out the criminal masterminds of the war.

I am disappointed at this man and I won't ever see him as a fellow Bosnian. Because there is no justification for his decision to go and join a war that has killed thousands of poor people. There just isn't. May god have mercy on his soul for all of this.
ok ok all good

but you fail to see some basic things (he is a person --- you are not in his head --- for all we know he could be some bosnian spy (i doubt it but trying to point out that it could be possible) also he could be going there for money and maybe he is a military dude)

it's funny to me to see this reaction from you

compared to the reaction you have to the weak diaspora (and few money deluted players) that did that cowardly act (but it's nice to see that even they are realizing that they were wrong)

i will let you run with this since i (no offense) have noticed you run of tangent easily and your arguments and the way you discuss things has no logic to it

p.s. new analyisis of the few left "letter signers" is comming (this week sometime) to bosnian section [just to get you off this politics business] :D

[Centarfor9]

nemogu imam neke zadace sto bi trebo uradit :lol:
ne mogu ni ja imam posla (jest i spavat) al hajd nako reko da znas da nema rata :lol:

[Pape]

ne mogu ni ja imam posla (jest i spavat) al hajd nako reko da znas da nema rata :lol:

nema nema al sam mislio da ces me ubit danas :lol:

[Centarfor9]

god i am never approving one of bunits threads again, always cause a disturbance somehow
threads that are too specific are a problem

more general threads are better

this thread is not even recent news or anything

it is just a attempt by Bosnian Unit to show something or to potray something (not sure what is his personal view about this :worried: ---> :lol: Damn Bosnian Unit damn)

anyway this dude that this thread is about is probably back home chilling, i haven't heard any superb stuff about him since that article was written (years ago)

he might have even gotten fired for all i know

[Centarfor9]

nema nema al sam mislio da ces me ubit danas :lol:
jebiga bilo pa proslo

feelings got hurt that's all

spasio si me od samog sebe sve bih pare izgubijo, sad imam dosta :lol:

[Saraj Fanático]

ok ok all good

but you fail to see some basic things (he is a person --- you are not in his head --- for all we know he could be some bosnian spy (i doubt it but trying to point out that it could be possible) also he could be going there for money and maybe he is a military dude)

My my My this is perhaps the stupidest thing I have heard yet. So if the man is a Spy or "Military Dude" he should be pardoned for joining a war for Oil? :lol: That makes so much sense! bravo majstore! I would rather have him be a brainwashed Bosnian then a War loving person. Whatever the reason is he joined a criminal war and thats the end of the story. Each reason you just pointed out is something a 10 year old would write. No offense.

it's funny to me to see this reaction from you

compared to the reaction you have to the weak diaspora (and few money deluted players) that did that cowardly act (but it's nice to see that even they are realizing that they were wrong)

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Dude your hilarious! War is much more serious then the world of football in this world. Just in case you didn't know. But it has the same philosophy. However the people who wrote that letter aren't joining an campaign to affect others lives.

i will let you run with this since i (no offense) have noticed you run of tangent easily and your arguments and the way you discuss things has no logic to it

Let me run with it? But you did the same thing in the Hijab argument? Maybe your just too slow to chase after me. I can discuss this with you for ever. But sadly you keep running from that because you know that sometimes you got to stay out of things you cannot defend.

[Centarfor9]

sorry FC. but i won't even bother reading that

[poutismalakas]

so all thpse men and women are criminals even though they can not make policy? where is your logic!

[Cihangir]

Lol no one said he actually killed somebody. Anyways this is purely a stomach issue. If you have the guts to sign up for an organization which has brought, is bringing and actually will bring nothing but deaths and destruction to the world then go on, at least have an ideology but doing it just for the sake of the Rambo series you watched as a little kid, it's unacceptable.

[Saraj Fanático]

@ Sinter: Please if you will keep backing out of arguments don't start them because I will always be willing to go a long distance. And you don't got much fuel I see. :D

[poutismalakas]

Lol no one said he actually killed somebody. Anyways this is purely a stomach issue. If you have the guts to sign up for an organization which has brought, is bringing and actually will bring nothing but deaths and destruction to the world then go on, at least have an ideology but doing it just for the sake of the Rambo series you watched as a little kid, it's unacceptable.
to serve in one's nation's armied forces is HONORABLE!!! Weither or not that nation's leaders are honorable or dishonorable! As a soldier you DO AS YOU ARE TOLD! IF any of you where in the armed forces you would know that!

[Saraj Fanático]

so all thpse men and women are criminals even though they can not make policy? where is your logic!


Its a criminal war. There is no justification to join any conflict on any people or on any religion. Death and terrorism shouldn't ever be tolerated. Maybe if you had lived through years of seeing god forbid Greece being shelled day in and out you would think differently about all of this.


I don't know the story of the US troops and I won't judge them.. but we are talking about a Bosnian here who has seen a major conflict and he at the end joins another one? :rolleyes: Pathetic!

[Cihangir]

god i am never approving one of bunits threads again, always cause a disturbance somehow

Why? As long as you keep the distance and not engage in a mouth fight it's okay. Clash of ideas is always disturbing but progressive. I can't imagine sitting in peace and talking nothing.

[Saraj Fanático]

to serve in one's nation's armied forces is HONORABLE!!! Weither or not that nation's leaders are honorable or dishonorable! As a soldier you DO AS YOU ARE TOLD! IF any of you where in the armed forces you would know that!


If Bosnia and Herzegovina ever grew into a world power and decided to attack another mans home and nation I would step down and piss all over that policy. I am not a criminal and I won't ever kill poor people for rich fat old politicians who are using the taking of lives for their own sick ideas.


yeah its Honorable but what happens when those people come to claim lives of your people? Whats you reaction? You tell me.

War sucks and thats the end of the story.

[Cihangir]

to serve in one's nation's armied forces is HONORABLE!!! Weither or not that nation's leaders are honorable or dishonorable! As a soldier you DO AS YOU ARE TOLD! IF any of you where in the armed forces you would know that!

Lol buddy I'm a Turk.
what kinda logic is that? You do as you are told but if what was ordered to you is to kill innocent ones to invade and colonize.. A little rebellion to this sick authority would be umm sane?

[Centarfor9]

@ Sinter: Please if you will keep backing out of arguments don't start them because I will always be willing to go a long distance. And you don't got much fuel I see. :D
:lol:

i love when people make me laugh :D

p.s. i did't get 17,000 posts by backing out of discussions ...but knowing that i was willing to back out of one (and that it is that one) should make you ask yourself something :sad:

[Pape]

HAha people that are convinced that it's HONORABLE to die for their country are totally brainwashed. Besides WTF is honor? die with honor? go ahead be my guest die with honor, I'm selfish I want to live...

And clearly the case with this guy isnt honor. I have never met a ex-yugoslavian that wouldn't laugh at the thought of that. Infact if that guy went to Bosnia and said he is dying for his country in Iraq I guarantee you everybody would laugh at the guy.

[poutismalakas]

Its a criminal war. There is no justification to join any conflict on any people or on any religion. Death and terrorism shouldn't ever be tolerated. Maybe if you had lived through years of seeing god forbid Greece being shelled day in and out you would think differently about all of this.

I don't know the story of the US troops and I won't judge them.. but we are talking about a Bosnian here who has seen a major conflict and he at the end joins another one? :rolleyes: Pathetic!

illegal war Says WHO? the Liberals? Remove your head from your rectum This is NOT a war on a religion!!!! Stop reading the propaganda sites!!! AT the most this was is ONLY about revenege and oil! at the best it is about saving a country! I believe it is about BOTH!

Leave Greece out of this cause Greece has been bombed to hell before! Also my cousin's Wife is from Cyprus and some of her uncles have been missing since 74!

As I said if this Bosnian lives in the USA and wants to be part of our armed forces then that IS HIS BUSINESS NOT YOURS, MINE, OR ANYONE ELSE'S!

[poutismalakas]

HAha people that are convinced that it's HONORABLE to die for their country are totally brainwashed. Besides WTF is honor? die with honor? go ahead be my guest die with honor, I'm selfish I want to live...

And clearly the case with this guy isnt honor. I have never met a ex-yugoslavian that wouldn't laugh at the thought of that. Infact if that guy went to Bosnia and said he is dying for his country in Iraq I guarantee you everybody would laugh at the guy.

NO it is NOT honorable to die for your country BUT to make the other bastard die for his!:D

[Fenerliyim]

to serve in one's nation's armied forces is HONORABLE!!! Weither or not that nation's leaders are honorable or dishonorable! As a soldier you DO AS YOU ARE TOLD! IF any of you where in the armed forces you would know that!

yea that excuse didnt work well for the nazi soldiers from concentration camps.

[Saraj Fanático]

:lol:

i love when people make me laugh :D

p.s. i did't get 17,000 posts by backing out of discussions ...but knowing that i was willing to back out of one (and that it is that one) should make you ask yourself something :sad:


You got 17,000 posts because your the leader of the 'I need a Life' campaign. :lol: j/k

The only thing I can ask myself is why the hell you always choose to engage in a conversation with me and then back out of it once I am ready to go? You ended this argument just like you ended the argument about the Hijab issue. You keep backing out. So please in the future if you have a opinion and you want to try to challenge it with me then be ready to go longer then 3-4 replies.

[poutismalakas]

Lol buddy I'm a Turk.
what kinda logic is that? You do as you are told but if what was ordered to you is to kill innocent ones to invade and colonize.. A little rebellion to this sick authority would be umm sane?
If you are sent to a nation to fight you try to kill only those who attack you NOT the innocent! WHERE has it been said that the US ordered it's troops yo kill innocent people?

[poutismalakas]

yea that excuse didnt work well for the nazi soldiers from concentration camps.
Different story that WAS prison camps! NOT the battlefield! difference between armed combatant and NON-ARMED prisoners!

[poutismalakas]

You got 17,000 posts because your the leader of the 'I need a Life' campaign. :lol: j/k

The only thing I can ask myself is why the hell you always choose to engage in a conversation with me and then back out of it once I am ready to go? You ended this argument just like you ended the argument about the Hijab issue. You keep backing out. So please in the future if you have a opinion and you want to try to challenge it with me then be ready to go longer then 3-4 replies.
maybe sinter is a tease?:ronaldo:

[Cihangir]

If you are sent to a nation to fight you try to kill only those who attack you NOT the innocent! WHERE has it been said that the US ordered it's troops yo kill innocent people?

God I can't believe you even exist! No war is innocent. Everybody dies. It is only honorable only if you're defending yourself. We are talking about the aggressors here like Serbia and USA and how can you take the issue like it's a video game. you do what you are told you go in and kill the targets. No they kill every one. I don't even have answer this mindlessness. Just check even few videos of wars do some research on them or go to the ***king Iraq and live the hell my words would not make a difference on you.

Oh and when was Greece bombed?

[Saraj Fanático]

illegal war Says WHO? the Liberals? Remove your head from your rectum This is NOT a war on a religion!!!! Stop reading the propaganda sites!!! AT the most this was is ONLY about revenege and oil! at the best it is about saving a country! I believe it is about BOTH!

Revenge! :lol: :lol: Revenge! What Revenge!? Name me the pilot that was from Iraq that supposable crashes a "Plane" into any building on 9/11? Saving a nation. Now that i agree with! Yes the politicians are saving America by getting a good deal from the 'Oil for Blood' campaign. Wake the ***k up and see this war for Oil and nothing more or less.

Leave Greece out of this cause Greece has been bombed to hell before! Also my cousin's Wife is from Cyprus and some of her uncles have been missing since 74!

Great and did you actually live through this event? I think not because if you did you would be devastated the hear the word 'War' not to mention support this idea of dieing for nothing but bullshit.

You seem like a very well loving Patriot. Say, why don't you go down there in Iraq and show us all how honorable it is to fight?

Go on...enlist and try it out for yourself. I mean who are we to challenge such a patriot and hard ass such as yourself? :lol:

[Centarfor9]

maybe sinter is a tease?:ronaldo:
trying not to be

but look at this post lol :D

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You got 17,000 posts because your the leader of the 'I need a Life' campaign. :lol: j/k

The only thing I can ask myself is why the hell you always choose to engage in a conversation with me and then back out of it once I am ready to go? You ended this argument just like you ended the argument about the Hijab issue. You keep backing out. So please in the future if you have a opinion and you want to try to challenge it with me then be ready to go longer then 3-4 replies.
dude you are my homie i got nothing against you but you are green

Hijab discussion is way too important so it nees to be explained properly

btw again you show your logic (there was no argument on the hijab nor was there an 'hijab issue' lol ...i just was asked (by BJK fan :) or FenerFan one of those two) to say more about what i think it represent (as i have observed it with not only bosnian women but also with other muslim women from various muslim cultures)

[poutismalakas]

Revenge! :lol: :lol: Revenge! What Revenge!? Name me the pilot that was from Iraq that supposable crashes a "Plane" into any building on 9/11? Saving a nation. Now that i agree with! Yes the politicians are saving America by getting a good deal from the 'Oil for Blood' campaign. Wake the ***k up and see this war for Oil and nothing more or less.



Great and did you actually live through this event? I think not because if you did you would be devastated the hear the word 'War' not to mention support this idea of dieing for nothing but bullshit.

You seem like a very well loving Patriot. Say, why don't you go down there in Iraq and show us all how honorable it is to fight?

Go on...enlist and try it out for yourself. I mean who are we to challenge such a patriot and hard ass such as yourself? :lol:

MAYBE IF you read up on BUsh you would know that in the 90's when Bush Sr. was in the Middle East Saddam tried to assassinate him! Ever heard of vendeta? GWBUsh had reasons beside Oil, WMDs, links to BinLaden, Saddam's oppressive rule, Saddam paying Palestinian Sucide bomber families to go into Iraq!

I already served! remember Im 34;)

[Pape]

ohh so you are brainwashed than ? :lol:

[poutismalakas]

God I can't believe you even exist! No war is innocent. Everybody dies. It is only honorable only if you're defending yourself. We are talking about the aggressors here like Serbia and USA and how can you take the issue like it's a video game. you do what you are told you go in and kill the targets. No they kill every one. I don't even have answer this mindlessness. Just check even few videos of wars do some research on them or go to the ***king Iraq and live the hell my words would not make a difference on you.

Oh and when was Greece bombed?

Agressors are the leaders who hide behind the poor! Remember it is the poor and brave who enlist!

Greece was boimbed in the 40's and I lost half my Grandfather's cousins in both WWII and the Civil War!

I don't take the issue of War lightly BUT I take offense of calling people criminals WHEN THEY ARE NOT! Talk to a soldier and call him/her a criminal? Are there people who have commited wrongs in war? YES but most of the soldiers in Iraq hardly ever see combat

[poutismalakas]

ohh so you are brainwashed than ? :lol:
do you even know anyone in the military?

[Pape]

do you even know anyone in the military?

Not only did I live for half a decade in a warzone but one of my best friends is a marine in Iraq.

[Cihangir]

Agressors are the leaders who hide behind the poor! Remember it is the poor and brave who enlist!

Greece was boimbed in the 40's and I lost half my Grandfather's cousins in both WWII and the Civil War!

I don't take the issue of War lightly BUT I take offense of calling people criminals WHEN THEY ARE NOT! Talk to a soldier and call him/her a criminal? Are there people who have commited wrongs in war? YES but most of the soldiers in Iraq hardly ever see combat

Aggressors are aggressors mate and it's up to you to join the army in US. Calling criminal a soldier of Turkey is suicide, I know that perfectly well because the soldier is holy in our culture. Plus Turkey is one of the best armed forces in the world and has reasons to take back some lands which were lost during table negotiations but even tho we have a deep history of militarism Turkey does not invade any of our neighbors and no one joins the Turkish Armed Forces for some "action". That should indicate something to you.. Not every soldier is innocent or honorable and not every country deserves to be on this planet.

[poutismalakas]

Not only did I live for half a decade in a warzone but one of my best friends is a marine in Iraq.
What does he tell you about Iraq!?

[Fenerliyim]

cihan man did u do ur mandatory army time yet?

[poutismalakas]

Aggressors are aggressors mate and it's up to you to join the army in US. Calling criminal a soldier of Turkey is suicide, I know that perfectly well because the soldier is holy in our culture. Plus Turkey is one of the best armed forces in the world and has reasons to take back some lands which were lost during table negotiations but even tho we have a deep history of militarism Turkey does not invade any of our neighbors and no one joins the Turkish Armed Forces for some "action". That should indicate something to you.. Not every soldier is innocent or honorable and not every country deserves to be on this planet.
the problem is that you and I are 90% on the same page! We are just fighting over that 10%

[Cihangir]

cihan man did u do ur mandatory army time yet?

I'm 20, I can if I want to but I'll wait till my graduation but I'm thinking about a second diploma so my service is probably gonna wait for some time. =P

[Cihangir]

@poutismalakas: Then it's not worth it.

[Fenerliyim]

I'm 20, I can if I want to but I'll wait till my graduation but I'm thinking about a second diploma so my service is probably gonna wait for some time. =P

haha same, mines gonna probably be in the 30s though by this rate i expect it to be gone by the time i have to go to duty, i mean if we are gonna make the EU.

wat is the minimum? i think its 2 weeks now, maybe it'll be like a half day tour or something like 15 years from now lol

[Cihangir]

haha same, mines gonna probably be in the 30s though by this rate i expect it to be gone by the time i have to go to duty, i mean if we are gonna make the EU.

wat is the minimum? i think its 2 weeks now, maybe it'll be like a half day tour or something like 15 years from now lol

Hahah yea two weeks. It's a joke man, really. I wouldn't do it even if I was a billionaire, dead seriously. I don't see us in the EU and don't want to anyway. I'm not concerned about those issues because I'm okay with the service.

[Saraj Fanático]

dude you are my homie i got nothing against you but you are green

Hijab discussion is way too important so it nees to be explained properly

btw again you show your logic (there was no argument on the hijab nor was there an 'hijab issue' lol ...i just was asked (by BJK fan :) or FenerFan one of those two) to say more about what i think it represent (as i have observed it with not only bosnian women but also with other muslim women from various muslim cultures)


You came out of nowhere telling me that you cannot believe that an agnostic (Pape) would teach me Islam when I commented about the Hijab topic. Then when I ask for your point on it you just never replied or stated your claim. I just didn't understand for what reason you would say that you believe that I never 'Seen a Mosque in my life' when your not really defending any claim. Please state what your opinion or claim about it is and then go into an debate. because you cannot challenge my thinking without you really exposing yours. Your a strange fellow Hussein. :smoking: j/k

I still don't really understand your & Pana's logic on this topic. Its very confusing and somewhat childish. No offense to you guys off course.

Okay 'homie'. :D

[Saraj Fanático]

MAYBE IF you read up on BUsh you would know that in the 90's when Bush Sr. was in the Middle East Saddam tried to assassinate him! Ever heard of vendeta? GWBUsh had reasons beside Oil, WMDs, links to BinLaden, Saddam's oppressive rule, Saddam paying Palestinian Sucide bomber families to go into Iraq!

I already served! remember Im 34;)


:lol: Yeah and little Bush's daddy was also doing Chemical business with Saddam. Assassination? Sure.. Saddam's life line was in his hands all along.

WMDS = Never existed or will exist in Iraq, if they did they would have fried many.

Links to Bin Laden = :lol:

Saddam's rule = US cares for the Iraqi people as much as I care if Guatemala will qualify for the World Cup.

Paying Palestinians to go to Iraq = This is the newest one in the bullshitweekly news. huh? I have to look it up! :D

Yeah I really doubt you ever picked up a rifle in your life. Just by judging on your way of looking into this war and specific topic. Don't find this as an offense but its just what i think..


If you had an slightest idea of what the real situation here is you would know that 90% of those soldiers serving in Iraq are there to pay their way to college. And 99% of them want to get out right now. Honor? Yeah sure. Who in the hell cares about honor in the US? The poor will be willing to fight for a nation that has completely forgotten about them? Why don't the upper class people join the conflict? Because they have their life's set while the poor and young people with no future are dragged into an War for just a chance at a better future.

[Centarfor9]

You came out of nowhere telling me that you cannot believe that an agnostic (Pape) would teach me Islam when I commented about the Hijab topic.
"i came out of nowhere to tell you that i cannot believe that an agnostic Pape would teach you you Islam"

i doubt i said that

read it again :lol:

i meant agnostic I (Sinter) is teaching you I Islam or something like that

i have no idea what is Pape's religion nor do i care (i think he is a communist)


Then when I ask for your point on it you just never replied or stated your claim.
? when that happen


I just didn't understand for what reason you would say that you believe that I never 'Seen a Mosque in my life' when your not really defending any claim.

from the comments i saw

and i still believe that

a strange fellow Hussein. :smoking: j/k
respect

http://www.cx65.de/fileadmin/cx65/wallpapers/misc/Ali-G-Respect.gif


I still don't really understand your & Pana's logic on this topic. Its very confusing and somewhat childish. No offense to you guys off course.
Pana? who is Pana? Pana2?

i don't know what he said but most likely we don't have the same opinion on that (actually i'm 100% sure we don't)

and after you said this i'm pretty sure don't know what is my opinion about that :lol:

Dude go take a break go outside and play or soemthing


this forum thing is not for you

or at least you shouldn't get involved in topics that are way over your head

[Saraj Fanático]

"i came out of nowhere to tell you that i cannot believe that an agnostic Pape would teach you you Islam"

i doubt i said that

read it again :lol:

i meant agnostic I (Sinter) is teaching you I Islam or something like that

i have no idea what is Pape's religion nor do i care (i think he is a communist)

YOUR AN AGNOSTIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I really didn't know that.



from the comments i saw

and i still believe that

I think your pretty stoned.

I also believe your a Jew. :lol:



Pana? who is Pana? Pana2?

i don't know what he said but most likely we don't have the same opinion on that (actually i'm 100% sure we don't)

and after you said this i'm pretty sure don't know what is my opinion about that :lol:

Dude go take a break go outside and play or soemthing


this forum thing is not for you

or at least you shouldn't get involved in topics that are way over your head


:lol: :lol: :lol: Hilarious! Yet you still fail to explain what the hell your stand is on this topic. Please do so that we can get this argument started. You know as much about Politics as Bush knows about the word Peace. I really suggest you don't go into issues you have no clue about. If you want to at least have the heart to point out your claim and defend it. Politics really aren't your thing.

[Centarfor9]

YOUR AN AGNOSTIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I really didn't know that.
if you read correctly i.e. understood the text you would have find that out long time ago


I think your pretty stoned.
that might be but it may very well be that i'm telling the truth :D

here is a mosque for you

http://www.destinacije.com/Thumbs/tn_Mutnicka_Dzamija.JPG

go to it be friends with it


I also believe your a Jew. :lol:
tamburalo momce uz tamburu


:lol: :lol: :lol: Hilarious! Yet you still fail to explain what the hell your stand is on this topic.
learn to read with understaning


Please do so that we can get this argument started.
read books and learn why do i have to teach you :lol:

you have used up that privilege


You know as much about Politics as Bush knows about the word Peace.
then i'm well off


I really suggest you don't go into issues you have no clue about. If you want to at least have the heart to point out your claim and defend it. Politics really aren't your thing.
lol

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vduw9uGrNqY

[Saraj Fanático]

if you read correctly i.e. understood the text you would have find that out long time ago

Do you even know what an Agnostic is? Also, do you see yourself as a Muslim because you sure want to act like one always going into threads and writing stupid nonsense such as 'Oh its alright to pray without Hijab for a women'. Its an insult. Believe what you want but quit trying to be some Muslim and challenge people who actually do spend time studying the faith and giving up so much.


that might be but it may very well be that i'm telling the truth :D

It may also very well be that your a new generation of retard ism. :lol: Kidding.

here is a mosque for you

http://www.destinacije.com/Thumbs/tn_Mutnicka_Dzamija.JPG

go to it be friends with it

No, I go to the amazing 'Kralj Fahd Dzamija' every friday instead. :)
http://www.geoprof-sa.com/Images/Dzamija-Kralj-Fahd.jpg

And I don't go to 'Make friends with it' but rather to pray to Allah. Just in case you thought Mosques are made to make friends with them they aren't. At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if you did believe that. :lol:



learn to read with understaning

There is nothing to read because all your giving me is crap. :lol: There is no point at all because you don't have one. I am 100% sure that you don't even know what the hell you are writing or defending. You've had enough, take a nap. :lol:




lol

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vduw9uGrNqY

You and Eminem there have something in common. You both think your black. :lol: :lol: Hommie......

[Centarfor9]

Do you even know what an Agnostic is? Also, do you see yourself as a Muslim because you sure want to act like one always going into threads and writing stupid nonsense such as 'Oh its alright to pray without Hijab for a women'. Its an insult. Believe what you want but quit trying to be some Muslim and challenge people who actually do spend time studying the faith and giving up so much.

sure
No, I go to the amazing 'Kralj Fahd Dzamija' every friday instead. :)
http://www.geoprof-sa.com/Images/Dzamija-Kralj-Fahd.jpg

And I don't go to 'Make friends with it' but rather to pray to Allah. Just in case you thought Mosques are made to make friends with them they aren't. At this point I really wouldn't be surprised if you did believe that. :lol:
sure
There is nothing to read because all your giving me is crap. :lol: There is no point at all because you don't have one. I am 100% sure that you don't even know what the hell you are writing or defending. You've had enough, take a nap. :lol:
sure

You and Eminem there have something in common. You both think your black. :lol: :lol: Hommie......
just because we like rap?

some new bosnian stuff :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYOvYnUcOw

[Saraj Fanático]

sure

sure

sure

Exactly. :)


just because we like rap?

some new bosnian stuff :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xeYOvYnUcOw


I am kidding with you. I like rap also. RAKIM schools everybody. :D Rima D is the father of Rap in the Balkans.

[Centarfor9]

Exactly. :)

yup :D


(sad se ti misli)

I am kidding with you. I like rap also. RAKIM schools everybody. :D Rima D is the father of Rap in the Balkans.
sure

[Saraj Fanático]

yup :D

Good that you agreed with all that I have typed up. Took a while to bring some sense into you. Sure thing! :)

[Centarfor9]

Good that you agreed with all that I have typed up. Took a while to bring some sense into you. Sure thing! :)
:lol:

you suprise me every time :lol:

jesil se isprico?

malo sam te pustijo da svrljas jer nismo na istoj inteligentnoj razini i nisam te htjeo brukat i sramotit ...ali ti nekako "majstorski" si to vec uspjeo to uradit i bez moje velike pomoci

a ti hajd dalje

you schooled me dude :)

[poutismalakas]

:lol: Yeah and little Bush's daddy was also doing Chemical business with Saddam. Assassination? Sure.. Saddam's life line was in his hands all along.

WMDS = Never existed or will exist in Iraq, if they did they would have fried many.

Links to Bin Laden = :lol:

Saddam's rule = US cares for the Iraqi people as much as I care if Guatemala will qualify for the World Cup.

Paying Palestinians to go to Iraq = This is the newest one in the bullshitweekly news. huh? I have to look it up! :D

Yeah I really doubt you ever picked up a rifle in your life. Just by judging on your way of looking into this war and specific topic. Don't find this as an offense but its just what i think..


If you had an slightest idea of what the real situation here is you would know that 90% of those soldiers serving in Iraq are there to pay their way to college. And 99% of them want to get out right now. Honor? Yeah sure. Who in the hell cares about honor in the US? The poor will be willing to fight for a nation that has completely forgotten about them? Why don't the upper class people join the conflict? Because they have their life's set while the poor and young people with no future are dragged into an War for just a chance at a better future.
Then please educate me OH SUPER BRAINIAC SIR :rolleyes:

For one I said Saddam was paying Palestinian family $ if anyone in their family blew themselves up in Israel

Saddam did have WMDs BUT when Bush Jr said he had! Saddam had them until the early 90s!

Situation here? where are you ? In Iraq! I doubt!

Dude quit acting like you eveything about the US cause you DO NOT KNOW! Watching Michael Moore movies will only fill your head full BS

Also All those things I said was the reason they gave us!

[poutismalakas]

YOUR AN AGNOSTIC! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: I really didn't know that.





I think your pretty stoned.

I also believe your a Jew. :lol:


What is wrong with being a Jew? YOu make it sound like it is a bad thing

[Pape]

" From Bosnian Child Soldier to U.S. Army Leader "

Need I remind you again?

[poutismalakas]

This is my opinion on the guy! WHO CARES! If this guy wants to be a US/Bosnian Soldier that is HIS business!

[Bosanac]

This is my opinion on the guy! WHO CARES! If this guy wants to be a US/Bosnian Soldier that is HIS business!


Stop crapping on the discussion ;)

[Saraj Fanático]

:lol:

you suprise me every time :lol:

jesil se isprico?

malo sam te pustijo da svrljas jer nismo na istoj inteligentnoj razini i nisam te htjeo brukat i sramotit ...ali ti nekako "majstorski" si to vec uspjeo to uradit i bez moje velike pomoci

a ti hajd dalje

you schooled me dude :)


Hey genius I was being sarcastic. :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh my god how really off do you have to be! :lol: UNBELIEVABLE! And I thought you were the king of this sarcasm shit!! :lol:

I love the way you keep on running and hiding from a debate. Do you know why you have 17,000 posts? Because you run around all over this forum replaying to issues you have no idea about. You justification for this dicks actions that joined the War in iraq is 'Maybe he is an military dude' and my favorite 'A Bosnian spy'. That was the stupidest reasoning I have ever heard. If anything that makes me think he is a bigger dumb ass then he appears to be. Your too slow, your too childish. Stay off my ass please.

Still waiting for your genius share of mind on this guy....maybe not...god knows what the next justification to going to war might be for you. :lol:

PS: Back to English, Bosnian chatting stays in our section...

[Saraj Fanático]

Then please educate me OH SUPER BRAINIAC SIR :rolleyes:

For one I said Saddam was paying Palestinian family $ if anyone in their family blew themselves up in Israel

Your exact statement 'Saddam paying Palestinian Sucide bomber families to go into Iraq!' When the hell did he pay them to go into Iraq? And also, whats wrong with that? Are their families to be blamed as much as the actual Bombers?


Saddam did have WMDs BUT when Bush Jr said he had! Saddam had them until the early 90s!

Bush has chemical weapons (Which he used on neighboring Iran) all made and supplied to him by the United States. 13 years later the US starts complaining about him having Chemical Weapons and possibly WMDs when those Chemical Weapons were given to him by the US itself! yet the American Citizen just watches CNN and doesn't get his small little mind to work.

Nice link for you to read.
http://www.counterpunch.org/boles1010.html

Situation here? where are you ? In Iraq! I doubt!

No, but by the way you write I doubt you ever stepped foot there also.

Dude quit acting like you eveything about the US cause you DO NOT KNOW! Watching Michael Moore movies will only fill your head full BS

Also All those things I said was the reason they gave us!


YES THEY GAVE YOU THE REASONS! BUT does it ever cross your mind that the Government is doing everything in its power not to cause extreme anger and rage amongst the population in the US just like every single other government in the world? Do you actually believe that there will ever be such a thing as an honest Government!!! :lol: Now I know Iran and Syria have their share of lies and BS but the US has the biggest joke of a Government ever. Yet you allow them to play you every single time.

You are claiming 'Hey Bush maybe did it for his own revenge!' and if you where more down to earth you would realize that quote made as much sense as Sinter's famous 'hey he can just be a Military dude' explanation for this Bosnians decision to go to War. It basically makes it even worse then to start with!!! :lol:

Do you realize what kind of reason you just gave me? I think that it is by far probably the most chaotic reason I ever thought about for his to wage a war in Iraq. So what your basically saying is that Bush could possibly have taken an entire nation to war, destruction and now even fear because he had this feud with Saddam? So because he had his personal problems you think he has a right to waste the life's of 3,545 (More then the total number killed on 9/11) just because of his own history to get back at Saddam??? I mean at least if he does it for Oil he is benefiting the economy somewhat and others! But for himself!! And your typing it up as if that wouldn't be such an bad reason!

Lets cut the Bullshit here. That reason was even much more worse then the real thing which is that Bush wanted Iraqi Oil. Not only that but while he is at it he wants the US to have more power in the Middle East. Which isn't necessarily bad but the way they do it is so "Democratic"! Military Action! With the creation of an Iraqi Government that will listen and obey him. Question is 'Will there be a government?' after this is all said and done? Judging on the last 4 years of War, I say not a chance.

[Centarfor9]

Hey genius I was being sarcastic. :lol: :lol: :lol: Oh my god how really off do you have to be! :lol: UNBELIEVABLE! And I thought you were the king of this sarcasm shit!! :lol:

I love the way you keep on running and hiding from a debate. Do you know why you have 17,000 posts? Because you run around all over this forum replaying to issues you have no idea about. You justification for this dicks actions that joined the War in iraq is 'Maybe he is an military dude' and my favorite 'A Bosnian spy'. That was the stupidest reasoning I have ever heard. If anything that makes me think he is a bigger dumb ass then he appears to be. Your too slow, your too childish. Stay off my ass please.

Still waiting for your genius share of mind on this guy....maybe not...god knows what the next justification to going to war might be for you. :lol:

PS: Back to English, Bosnian chatting stays in our section...

:lol:

you can't even comprehend posts that i write :lol:

imas usta velika al slabo kontas

[PAO_HELLAS]

Golden Dawn WAS a Neo-Nazi group who was anti-anything against what the viewed as pure Hellas! several members are suspected of being involved in the Bosnian War!


Golden Dawn still exists. Not as a party but as an organization.

[Saraj Fanático]

:lol:

you can't even comprehend posts that i write :lol:

I don't think a single User here can comprehend what you just wrote on this issue. :)

imas usta velika al slabo kontas

Ti ces mi reci! :lol:

[Centarfor9]

Junace idi otrci dva tri kruga oko zgrade, izlapi se :)

nije ovo za tebe

[Saraj Fanático]

Junace idi otrci dva tri kruga oko zgrade, izlapi se :)

nije ovo za tebe

TI CES MI RECI.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Dobar si! Legendo!

[Centarfor9]

TI CES MI RECI.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Dobar si! Legendo!
:faint2:

mislis ovo sto svrljas ima veze sa necim? zato je ovo smjesno

idi bolan izadji malo, izluftiraj se

zar pada kisa u Floridi?

[Saraj Fanático]

:faint2:

mislis ovo sto svrljas ima veze sa necim? zato je ovo smjesno

idi bolan izadji malo, izluftiraj se

zar pada kisa u Floridi?


Vidi Vidi. Sto je nam sad momce upalijo motor! :lol:

Moze li jedno pitanje? Sta majketi ima 'Florida' sa ovim? :lol:

[Centarfor9]

Vidi Vidi. Sto je nam sad momce upalijo motor! :lol:
jedva ti to nekako napisa

bolje ti je da ucis bosanski nego meni svoju budalastinju da prosipas

[Saraj Fanático]

Nije napisati bilo problem, vec valja se stat smijati kad citam sta ti tipkas. :lol:

[Centarfor9]

Nije napisati bilo problem, vec valja se stat smijati kad citam sta ti tipkas. :lol:
vidim :)

[el Turco]

english, please. :)

[Bosnian Unit]

god i am never approving one of bunits threads again, always cause a disturbance somehow


:lol: :lol: :lol:

It's not my foult people had been going off topic and for all other stuff, plus we need something to discuss and kill time with since football season is over.

At least until friendly's in August :lol: !

Most of these summer days im spending on the lake in my city (Jablanicko jezero/lake), so i didnt have much time for net, when i got back today i saw 9 pages on this threat i was like DAAMN:D .......So i had to read everything from 1st page :rolleyes: .

My commet on this would be, I DONT CARE........war is probably in his blood and he just cant stay out of it :evil: .

[Cevap]

My hump, my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lumps...check it ouuuut.
:cheer:

[Centarfor9]

^ troll