From ESC to "Slavovision"

[ARBANITAI]

Grand Prix de "Slavovision" should be the new name of the ESC!!!

I have nothing against but With the friendly support of the slavic Balkan countries and the ex Soviet states the new winner of ESC thankfully to its slavic support managed to win.

I dont want to be taken wrong because in the end i have nothing against it, but its seemed quit clearly that night that the "slavic countries" were clearly dominating!!

ESC in the same time is getting worser in many aspects too, as well as more politically, because the song or the performance of one or the other, is not looking to be so much more important today (we all saw much better songs that night who end up to be in the last places) but oh yeah however..

it might not feel so good for the rest of eu countries as welll whos chances for a first place are looking to be smaller and smaller every year, and so as usuall the slavic ones will be growing up for real, and theyd would be voting eachother even more in the future and so as can imagine we are going to have a slavic host country of ESC like everyyear :D

oops my congrats for the winner thou ;) :lol:

[PAO_HELLAS]

What is going on in this contest is known. The Slavs vote each other, the Scandinavians vote each other etc, this is happening many years now.

And this would happen to any international contest (music-related or not) where countries would be represented and the result are based on voting. Objectivity is not something dominant is not something when it comes to nations and their relations, that's natural :D.

[Bosnian Unit]

So what ?

Thats not good becouse Western Europe cant dominate in this contes ? Like we give a shit, we have better songs and more talent then they do with their evil satan culture(last year those guys from Finland), and gey preformance :lol: .

We are talking for years how in the world Champions league can have that name, when majority of teams who where not champions play there.

Just becouse they dominate in football Spain,England,Italy,Germany can have 3-4 teams in there but some Eastern European champion have to go thru qualification to get in final stage:boo: .

At least we dominate in this Eurosong shit, and you want to take it away from us :lol: .

Whatever............

[Vic]

Seriously who tha hell give a damn? This "competition"is nothing less then a show.

And don't be biased ARBANATAI...scandinavians voted eachother aswell.

[Pape]

Thump thump has it ever occured to you that scadivanians could possible like scandivanian music more than slavic music and slavs like slavic music more than scandivanian music or wait maybe Serbia won because it is one of the few countries that has enough talent in their own country to sing in their own language unlike mostly everybody in western europe singing in english because their music is sh!t

[Vic]

Serbia won because it is one of the few countries that has enough talent in their own country to sing in their own language unlike mostly everybody in western europe singing in english because their music is sh!t

You're a joke Pape.

This "competetion" has a lot to do with cultures and traditions. Slavic countries like their kind of clothes, music etc. and vice versa in scandinavia.

[Pape]

You're a joke Pape.

This "competetion" has a lot to do with cultures and traditions. Slavic countries like their kind of clothes, music etc. and vice versa in scandinavia.

Man I wish I came out of the pussy that made you such a smart ass. With answers like that you really could solve every problem in this world.

But I do disagree on one thing you said
This "competetion" has a lot to do with cultures and traditions.
Well I just didn't know that 80% of Europe always sang in English.

[Centarfor9]

Grand Prix de "Slavovision" should be the new name of the ESC!!!

I have nothing against but With the friendly support of the slavic Balkan countries and the ex Soviet states the new winner of ESC thankfully to its slavic support managed to win.

I dont want to be taken wrong because in the end i have nothing against it, but its seemed quit clearly that night that the "slavic countries" were clearly dominating!!

ESC in the same time is getting worser in many aspects too, as well as more politically, because the song or the performance of one or the other, is not looking to be so much more important today (we all saw much better songs that night who end up to be in the last places) but oh yeah however..

it might not feel so good for the rest of eu countries as welll whos chances for a first place are looking to be smaller and smaller every year, and so as usuall the slavic ones will be growing up for real, and theyd would be voting eachother even more in the future and so as can imagine we are going to have a slavic host country of ESC like everyyear :D

oops my congrats for the winner thou ;) :lol:
true


get use to it :)


hate how Russia, Ukraine, Georgia, Estonia, other 50 former soviet countries (slight exaggeration) and other east slavic countires vote for themselves [and give no votes for Bosnia]

they all hate bosnia :lol:

anyway thak you turkey and croatia our true alies (in this political eurovision competition) :D

Turkey 10
Croatia 10
Albania 8
Austria 8
Switzerland 8
Slovenia 8
Serbia 8
Denmark 7
Netherlands 7
Montenegro 7
Norway 6
Sweden 6
F.Y.R. Macedonia 4
Czech Republic 4
Germany 3
Armenia 1
France 1
-------------
106 points (11th place)


at least we weren't last like Ireland (5 points form Albania)

[MarieL]

So what ?

Thats not good becouse Western Europe cant dominate in this contes ? Like we give a shit, we have better songs and more talent then they do with their evil satan culture(last year those guys from Finland), and gey preformance :lol: .


And here I was thinking your IQ had reached the bottom a long time ago already. My bad. :yawn:

[Fenerliyim]

guys no insults, eurovision is just politics. Usually the people who deserve to win dont win. Turkey gave high points to Armenia and Greece trying to make connections better.

And Pape the point of Eurovision is to sing in English, not in ur own language

[poutismalakas]

Do any of you actually watch that crap? It seems just like American CRAPPY Idol!!!!!!!!

[Bosnian Unit]

And here I was thinking your IQ had reached the bottom a long time ago already. My bad. :yawn:

Come on MarieL, you know im right.

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Lordi (Finland)



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"We ask the Finnish Commission of the Eurovision Song Contest to cancel the procedure and choose another song," they said. "This evil and satanic Finnish band is not welcome in Greece."

[Pape]

guys no insults, eurovision is just politics. Usually the people who deserve to win dont win. Turkey gave high points to Armenia and Greece trying to make connections better.

And Pape the point of Eurovision is to sing in English, not in ur own language

are you american or are you european?


The rule requiring countries to sing in their own national language has been changed several times over the years. From 1956 until 1965, there was no rule restricting the languages in which the songs could be sung. However, in 1966 a rule was imposed stating that the songs must be performed in one of the official languages of the country participating.[12]

The language restriction continued until 1973, when it was lifted and performers were again free to sing in any language they wished.[12] Several winners in the mid-1970s took advantage of the newly-found freedom, with performers from non-native-English-speaking countries singing in English, including ABBA in 1974.

In 1977, the EBU decided to revert to the national language restriction.[12] However, special dispensation was given to Germany and Belgium as their national song selection procedures were already too advanced to change.[31]

In 1999, the rule was changed again to allow freedom of language once more.[12] This linguistic freedom led to the Belgian entry in 2003, Sanomi, being sung in an entirely constructed language.[36] In 2006 the Dutch entry, Amambanda, was sung partly in English and partly in an artificial language.[37]

I believe the winner sang in Serbian and not in English. Now tell me you are sorry and don't enter a discussion you know nothing about if you want to act like a smart ass all the time.

Also Turkey gave Armenia most points, than Bosnia, than Russia, and Greece way in the back with 4 points, once again proving you are talking music out of your ass.

[MarieL]

Come on MarieL, you know im right.

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41668000/jpg/_41668160_lordiap2_203.jpg

http://www.liberty1st.org/blog/content/binary/24finn.xlarge1.jpg

http://www.mediawatchwatch.org.uk/wp-images/lordi.jpg

Lordi (Finland)



Quote:
"We ask the Finnish Commission of the Eurovision Song Contest to cancel the procedure and choose another song," they said. "This evil and satanic Finnish band is not welcome in Greece."
They're called costumes, genious. Didn't Liz Hurley play Satan in some movie? Is she Satan? Yeah, I know, with those low cut dresses she must be... Oh well, it's not like I ever expected religious fanatics to have a sense of humour. It just bugs to see that you're still free to spew your hate towards the Western world any chance you get. Not cool buddy, not cool at all. :thumbsdow

[ARBANITAI]

LoL relax there, are you mad at ppl because they dont like that finnish band :lol:

[ARBANITAI]

Seriously who tha hell give a damn? This "competition"is nothing less then a show.

And don't be biased ARBANATAI...scandinavians voted eachother aswell.

Im not ! I dont give a crap man!

I just said what I feel its true, and that the songs or the performance of one singer is not so much important today anymore, which sucks, and that it is getting more politically as well. Slavic countires has dominated that night by giving max points to eachother, and if they continue doing like that, so their soon owning that place, because we have too many countries of slavic background in our continent.

Scandinavians share points as well, and that Sux too:boo: because i dont think countries should vote their neighbour country or use the ESC as a thing to make better relations/concetions to other countries through the song contest!!!!! its bullshit

[MarieL]

LoL relax there, are you mad at ppl because they dont like that finnish band :lol:
I ain't mad at anyone, I just happen to be of the opinion that Bosnian Unit is a retarded fanatic and it's strange how the rules of this board don't seem to apply to him in any way. That is all. :amen:

[Pape]

so are you saying you regret unbanning him when I banned him years ago :lol:

[MarieL]

Oh I am sure I banned him myself at least once. Or twice. :laugh: For some reason people just wanted to make a big fuss about it. :noidea:

[Bosanac]

I ain't mad at anyone, I just happen to be of the opinion that Bosnian Unit is a retarded fanatic and it's strange how the rules of this board don't seem to apply to him in any way. That is all. :amen:


He isn't doing anything wrong, Paula. Unlike you, he isn't going around insulting people. :boo:

You know we don't play favorites here

[MarieL]

If only that were true...

What you gonna do? Smoke me out of the mod lounge? :lol: Too bad I'm not a moderator anymore.

Ah, nevermind me, I'm just amusing myself while studying. :)

[Bosanac]

If only that were true...

What you gonna do? Smoke me out of the mod lounge? :lol: Too bad I'm not a moderator anymore.

No, actually, I might ban you. :)



Ah, nevermind me, I'm just amusing myself while studying. :)


There are a lot of ways to amuse yourself, unfortunately you chose the worst one. :)

[MarieL]

Come on, just admit it. You love it! :laugh:

If you wanna ban me then you should start by warning me. It still says 0% you know.

[Bosanac]

You think I won't?


Keep it up, and we'll see.

[MarieL]

I'm sure you will.

Just smile, Bos! Show me some teeth! :laugh:

[poutismalakas]

You think I won't?


Keep it up, and we'll see.
You have to warn people before you ban them remember! ONLY sockpuppets and spammers get bann without a warning!

[poutismalakas]

ALSO TAKE YOUR ARUGMENT/DISCUSSION TO PM please!

[Bosanac]

You have to warn people before you ban them remember! ONLY sockpuppets and spammers get bann without a warning!

Relax ;)

[Bosanac]

Just smile, Bos! Show me some teeth! :laugh:


No, poutismalakas just broke my teeth :D

[Bosnian Unit]

They're called costumes, genious. Didn't Liz Hurley play Satan in some movie? Is she Satan? Yeah, I know, with those low cut dresses she must be... Oh well, it's not like I ever expected religious fanatics to have a sense of humour. It just bugs to see that you're still free to spew your hate towards the Western world any chance you get. Not cool buddy, not cool at all. :thumbsdow


religious fanatics

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Bosnian Unit]

You have to warn people before you ban them remember! ONLY sockpuppets and spammers get bann without a warning!


Just for the record......Pape then Fusion, banned me (year or so back) without warning just for having different opinion.

I wasent sockpuppet or spammer, i was member here before him and most of these Bosnians,Serbs and Croats. You can check that for yourself, and im member here since Sept 2003.

Yea some of these guys have few thousand posts more then i do, but unlike them who throw few words or smiles in their posts, i write my opinion.

Now some of these people dont like it, but too bad they wanted democracy and freedom of speech right ? So i have right to say what i think, and i never insulted anyone:) !

[Pape]

Don't give away my identity :lol:

If this place was run my way it sure wouldn't be a democracy.

[poutismalakas]

Just for the record......Pape then Fusion, banned me (year or so back) without warning just for having different opinion.

Sorry that happened to you but I usually warn legit users before I ban them! Case in point Benifca64! Also if I recall users are to be warned before getting banned UNLESS they have been banned before, are a sockpuppet, are a spammer, or are EXTREME cases!

[Fenerliyim]

are you american or are you european?

I believe the winner sang in Serbian and not in English. Now tell me you are sorry and don't enter a discussion you know nothing about if you want to act like a smart ass all the time.

Also Turkey gave Armenia most points, than Bosnia, than Russia, and Greece way in the back with 4 points, once again proving you are talking music out of your ass.

If u pay attention most countries sing in English so everyone will understand the song. Thats kind of the point. Not everything is written down as a rule. Its for European integration. And English is the language most used.

Like i said in my other post Eurovision is politics u think people in Turkey actually voted for Armenia:lol: or Russians we aint to friendly with them.

[Fenerliyim]

And btw wtf was that swedish(i think) singer, ***kn wierd.

[Vic]

And btw wtf was that swedish(i think) singer, ***kn wierd.

Yeah man that was something eh? :lol:

[Milos_]

Ukraine was also wierd:D

[MarieL]

religious fanatics

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
I was referring to you. In case that was too difficult to decipher.

Having watched the ESC since I was a little kid I have to say I'd rather have them sing in their own language than have them sing in English even when they don't know the language at all. I mean if you know English well then by all means have a song in English, I loved Hungary's song for example. BUT if the lyrics consist of SHAKE IT! SHAKE IT! Or some semi-pornographic nonsense or "Put a cherry in my cake and taste my cherry pie" then please, for the love of music, stick to your own language! We have the songs subtitled anyway.

[Saraj Fanático]

WAYS TO WIN EUROVISION!

1. Come dressed up as a Star (Like our Ukrainian friends did)

2. Or come on dressed like a Demon

3. In the performance cut some mans head off and throw it at the crowd.

4. Use a lot of fire works also.

5. Sing with the deepest voice you can imagine.

6. And most importantly, separate your nation in 5 different countries which can all vote for you!

Am sure you will win it following these 5 steps.

Eurovision is a joke. It has the worst music I have ever heard. I see absolutely no talent in these competitions anymore accept a few performances. Turned into a ***king circus.

[poutismalakas]

Eurovision is a joke. It has the worst music I have ever heard. I see absolutely no talent in these competitions anymore accept a few performances. Turned into a ***king circus.

What do you expect!! Eurovision is a nationalist's version of American Idol! BOTH SUCK AND NEED TO BE CANCELLED BUT BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE SHEEP AND LISTEN TO WHAT THEY ARE TOLD THEY WATCH THIS CRAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

[PAO_HELLAS]

WAYS TO WIN EUROVISION!

1. Come dressed up as a Star (Like our Ukrainian friends did)

2. Or come on dressed like a Demon

3. In the performance cut some mans head off and throw it at the crowd.

4. Use a lot of fire works also.

5. Sing with the deepest voice you can imagine.

6. And most importantly, separate your nation in 5 different countries which can all vote for you!

Am sure you will win it following these 5 steps.

Eurovision is a joke. It has the worst music I have ever heard. I see absolutely no talent in these competitions anymore accept a few performances. Turned into a ***king circus.

Very true.. In the past the contest had some dignity but today it has became exactly what you say.

[Vic]

No-one can compete with ABBA's "Waterloo" that's the best song ever in ESC. eventhough i'm not a fan of them.

"Waterloo" was also awarded as the best ESC song ever.

[Fenerliyim]

I was referring to you. In case that was too difficult to decipher.

Having watched the ESC since I was a little kid I have to say I'd rather have them sing in their own language than have them sing in English even when they don't know the language at all. I mean if you know English well then by all means have a song in English, I loved Hungary's song for example. BUT if the lyrics consist of SHAKE IT! SHAKE IT! Or some semi-pornographic nonsense or "Put a cherry in my cake and taste my cherry pie" then please, for the love of music, stick to your own language! We have the songs subtitled anyway.

ahaha shake it up sekerim :lol: Cant believe we finished in the top 5 with that. Though i have to admit it was much better than most well at least the music(not the lyrics) and the girls.

[MarieL]

ahaha shake it up sekerim :lol: Cant believe we finished in the top 5 with that. Though i have to admit it was much better than most well at least the music(not the lyrics) and the girls.
No, no it wasn't. It barely beat Armenia. The melody was hideous and I don't want to hear a sleazy guy with a rating of about 10+ on the ickiness scale to sing about getting it on with some poor woman.
If you wanna shake it, then the Greek song was way better for that purpose. At least you can do the salsa shoulder shake to that one. Which I have mastered. :humble:

[ARBANITAI]

Guys lets all agree that allmost all of the songs of this year were Hilarious and crappy... in both ways i mean. And I fully agree with most of you guys here that ESC is only getting worser and worser every year as well as the songs..

Though unless other times this year we used to see one of their most crappiest songs ever, and a big CIRCUS as well lol, How in earth would a song like that of Ukraine for example get the second spot ?? :lol :lol: Just how ?? cant get it ! :faint2: lol

I must say the only song i wanted to go somehow through was that of Swistzerland but they didnt made it to finals, and thats only because my favourite DJ - Dj Bobo was part of that song...

[Bosnian Unit]

I was referring to you. In case that was too difficult to decipher.

Having watched the ESC since I was a little kid I have to say I'd rather have them sing in their own language than have them sing in English even when they don't know the language at all. I mean if you know English well then by all means have a song in English, I loved Hungary's song for example. BUT if the lyrics consist of SHAKE IT! SHAKE IT! Or some semi-pornographic nonsense or "Put a cherry in my cake and taste my cherry pie" then please, for the love of music, stick to your own language! We have the songs subtitled anyway.

O shut up.............i know you was referring to me, thats why it was funny.

The fact is im far far from religious fanatic, and you are probably some teenager who was learning how to walk when i was listening to Metallica,Bon Jovi,Nirvana becouse Krist Anthony Novoselic was the guy from our part of the world and Kurt Cobain (RIP) was one of the best at the time, plus many others.

And those guys from Finland LOOK EVIL AND SATANIC, there is no way they should be aloud to sing anywhere else AGAIN, speceily on some international contest.

[MarieL]

You learned to walk as a teenager? Good god man, that's pretty late when compared to the norm. :eek: Luckily I was more advanced.

You do refer to Satan a lot for a non-religious fanatic I must say.

[poutismalakas]

everyone please try to stay on topic ;)

[PALESTINO]

thats the prob with these "talent" shows.people don't vote for talent they vote for their compatriots or related countries.In the arab world we got Superstar which is the arab version of idol.People would pack votes for their compatriot competitors no matter what their voice is like.

[Bosnian Unit]

You learned to walk as a teenager? Good god man, that's pretty late when compared to the norm. :eek: Luckily I was more advanced.

You do refer to Satan a lot for a non-religious fanatic I must say.

Why dont you read before you write something ?


QUOTE:
and you are probably some teenager who was learning how to walk when i was listening to Metallica,Bon Jovi,Nirvana becouse Krist Anthony Novoselic was the guy from our part of the world and Kurt Cobain (RIP) was one of the best at the time, plus many others.

[poutismalakas]

Why dont you read before you write something ?


QUOTE:
and you are probably some teenager who was learning how to walk when i was listening to Metallica,Bon Jovi,Nirvana becouse Krist Anthony Novoselic was the guy from our part of the world and Kurt Cobain (RIP) was one of the best at the time, plus many others.
BUnit PLEASE take this to PM OK!




EVERYONE PLEASE try and stay on topic!

[MarieL]

Why dont you read before you write something ?


QUOTE:
and you are probably some teenager who was learning how to walk when i was listening to Metallica,Bon Jovi,Nirvana becouse Krist Anthony Novoselic was the guy from our part of the world and Kurt Cobain (RIP) was one of the best at the time, plus many others.
I read it perfectly, thank you. You were born without the humour gene, weren't you? That would explain a lot. :laugh: I haven't been a teenager for 2 years if you must know.

Poutis, chill out! It's not like anyone wants to discuss the ESC. This thread wouldn't be in the politics forum if they did. :lol: A bit of banter hurts nobody. :angel:

[Centarfor9]

I heard that "Molitva" song was stolen.


Mariel and Bosnian Unit get a room.

[Milos_]

If "Molitva" was stolen then 90% of rap music is stolen.Most Balkan songs are similar,thats just the way it is(until someone original shows up)

[Centarfor9]

If "Molitva" was stolen then 90% of rap music is stolen.Most Balkan songs are similar,thats just the way it is(until someone original shows up)
90% of rap is stolen :)

[Bigpappys_gun]

to me it sounds more like an american song but sang in serbia

[Bosnian Unit]

If u pay attention most countries sing in English so everyone will understand the song. Thats kind of the point. Not everything is written down as a rule. Its for European integration. And English is the language most used.

Like i said in my other post Eurovision is politics u think people in Turkey actually voted for Armenia:lol: or Russians we aint to friendly with them.


You are wrong. When you translate a song from one language to another it sounds stupid.

On the other hand, you can not have people making songs on English so everyone can understand, or making songs for Eurovision when they never know who is going to represent its country there.

Just for the record, there is no Bosnians in Monaco.........but last year they gave us 12 points for Hari Varesanovic's song Lejla. They know what is quality:) !

[Centarfor9]

You are wrong. When you translate a song from one language to another it sounds stupid.

On the other hand, you can not have people making songs on English so everyone can understand, or making songs for Eurovision when they never know who is going to represent its country there.

Just for the record, there is no Bosnians in Monaco.........but last year they gave us 12 points for Hari Varesanovic's song Lejla. They know what is quality:) !
that was a typo :smoking:

...if we had won last year, FTV would go bankrupt :lol:

[Saraj Fanático]

The Freaks of Eurosong. Remembering the contestants...

Serbia...
http://www.bnr.nl/blobs/anp/53141.jpg
The International Lesbian organization.

Ukraine...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/e/ed/Ukraineeurovision2007.jpg
The Star fighters from Space. Sent to Earth to explore and take information back to their planet known as Gayzon.

Sweden...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/ce/Cb_theark_2.JPG/220px-Cb_theark_2.JPG
The Fruit of Euro song.....nothing left to say really.

Finland...
http://static.flickr.com/54/150360640_6e458d38a1.jpg
Belongs to perhaps the only 5% of humanity that prefers surviving at temperatures of 90 Degrees wearing a plastic mask and being covered with 200 Ibs of Metal and clothing.

United Kingdom...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/arts/graphics/2007/05/15/bvgillian.jpg
If there ever was an episode of Scobby Doo where the gang all become douches who join British Airways this would be something it would look like.

Belgium...
http://www.viggen.no/var/storage/images/magasinet/musikk/tah_da_scissor_sisters_er_her_igjen/71073-1-nor-NO/tah_da_scissor_sisters_er_her_igjen.jpg
Douches of the Galaxy cast.

Israel...
http://www.israelemb.org/sanfran/IsraelHouse/teapacks1.jpg
The Hewitt Family


But my favorite one has to be the Russians. If you cannot get talent up stage at least send something to entertain us with! Oh those girls!


..............................WHAT WILL EUROSONG 2008 BRING?........

[PAO_HELLAS]

Isn't it time for some of the countries to follow the example of Italy? Fun is fun and jokes are jokes but the whole thing is becoming ugly.

Or at least abolish the "national representation" in this contest. We don't want to feel that we are being represented by something in such a show (?). Whatever.

[nachi88]

People take this competition too seriously. irst of all music is not something that can be quantified and so I am against all these crappy competitions. Why make it a competition. Music is to be enjoyed, not fought over. This eurovision competition is completely rigged. All Slavic countries stick together. Scandanavians stick together. Germany gets vote from no one. Not even Austria and Switzerland. :lol:

But in an all time competition we still have given the world Beethoven, Mozart (Salzburg- but we'll claim him) and Bach, to name a few. :p