Official: Radicals wanted to create carnage at Fort Dix

[poutismalakas]

WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The federal government charged five alleged Islamic radicals with plotting to kill U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix in New Jersey.

A sixth was charged with aiding and abetting the illegal possession of firearms by three of the others.

"The philosophy that supports and encourages jihad around the world against Americans came to live here in New Jersey and threaten the lives of our citizens through these defendants," New Jersey U.S. Attorney Christopher J. Christie said at a news conference Tuesday. (Watch Christie describe the alleged would-be terrorists Video)

The men were arrested Monday night and heard the charges against them Tuesday in federal court. They will be held without bond pending a hearing Friday, according to Michael Drewniak, spokesman for the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of New Jersey.

Christie described Tuesday how the group's plot -- which he said had been in the works since January 2006 -- was foiled.

The case began to take shape in January 2006, when an employee of a store told the FBI someone had brought a "disturbing" video to be duplicated, Christie said.

The video "depicted 10 young men who appeared to be in their early 20s shooting assault weapons at a firing range in a militia-like style while calling for jihad and shouting in Arabic 'Allah Akbar,' " (Arabic for "God is Great"), according to an FBI affidavit filed with the criminal complaints.

The FBI and Joint Terrorism Task Force began an investigation immediately, Christie said.

"Through the amazing efforts of these law enforcement officers, we were able to infiltrate cooperating witnesses into this terrorist cell," Christie said.

Two paid informants infiltrated the group, one in March 2006 and the other in July. Both of them "consensually recorded" meetings and conversations, according to the affidavit, filed by Special Agent John J. Ryan.

One quote from the alleged recordings was defendant Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer saying, "My intent is to hit a heavy concentration of soldiers. ... This is exactly what we are looking for. You hit four, five or six Humvees and light the whole place [up] and retreat completely without any losses."

One of the informants claimed to have connections with an arms dealer who could sell the alleged conspirators AK-47 automatic machine guns and other weapons, according to the affidavit. Both took part in firearms training with the group, the affidavit said.
Men had collection of disturbing videos

Officials said the group had a collection of jihadist videos, including video of the last will and testament of two of the 19 hijackers from the September 11, 2001, attacks and video of Osama bin Laden calling Muslims to jihad.

The men also showed videos to each other of killings of U.S. military personnel around the world, officials said.

"They watched the blowing off of the arm of a United States Marine, and the room burst out into laughter," Christie said.

The men are believed to have been "inspired" by international terrorist groups, but not directly linked to a specific organization, he said.

He said defendant Shain Duka was heard on tape saying, "We can do a lot of damage with seven people. We can do big things."

A law enforcement source told CNN the group played paintball and test fired weapons as part of their training.

"These guys were clearly committed to the task they had set before them," Fran Townsend, the White House's homeland security adviser, told CNN.

Their goal was to figure out how to kill as many American soldiers as possible, Christie said.

The men had surveyed a number of bases but settled on Fort Dix because one of the defendants said he knew the base "like the back of his hand" because he had delivered pizza there, Christie said. (About Fort Dix)

"They were at the point where they wanted to obtain the automatic weapons that would be the final piece in their plan... to create carnage at Fort Dix," Christie said.

"I think it could have been a disaster," he said. "These people were ready for martyrdom."
Men arrested trying to buy weapons

"Today we dodged a bullet. In fact, when you look at the types of weapons this group was trying to purchase, we may have dodged a lot of bullets," Special Agent Jody Weis said.

The six -- three of them brothers -- were arrested Monday night "as two of the defendants were meeting a confidential government witness to purchase three AK-47 automatic machine guns, and four semi-automatic M-16s to be used in an attack they had been planning from at least January 2006," according to a news release from the U.S. Attorney's Office.

Six complaints were filed Tuesday, each naming one of the six as defendant.

The U.S. Attorney's Office said the three brothers involved, all with the last name Duka, were born in the former Yugoslavia and are illegally residing in the United States. It identified them as Eljvir, 23, Shain, 26, and Dritan, 28, and said the three operate businesses known as Qadr Inc., Colonial Roofing and National Roofing.

The other three men charged are Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22, of Cherry Hill, New Jersey, a U.S. citizen born in Jordan who is employed as a taxicab driver in Philadelphia; Serdar Tatar, 23, of Philadelphia, born in Turkey, whose last known employment was at a 7-Eleven; and Agron Abdullahu, 24, of Buena Vista Township, born in the former Yugoslavia and employed at a Shop-Rite Supermarket.

Abdullahu is charged only with aiding and abetting the Duka brothers' illegal possession of weapons, which carries a maximum penalty of 10 years in federal prison, the attorney's office said.

The complaint said the group conducted firearms training in Gouldsboro, Pennsylvania, in the Pocono Mountains. It also said Shnewer conducted surveillance at several U.S. military sites: Fort Dix and Fort Monmouth in New Jersey, Dover Air Force Base in Delaware, and the U.S. Coast Guard building in Philadelphia.

It said Tatar acquired a map of Fort Dix and distributed it to others.
Christie: We have caught the core of this plot

While authorities are glad to have arrested them, the individuals are "hardly hard-core terrorists," one law enforcement source said.

Another source said that while the allegations are "troubling," they are "not the type that made the hair on the back of your neck stand up."

"We believe we have caught the absolute sole and core of this plot," Christie said.

Fort Dix is used to train members of the Army Reserve and National Guard for missions in Iraq, Afghanistan and around the world.

It was used in 1999 to house ethnic Albanian refugees from Kosovo, according to the Defense Department Web site.

CNN's Kevin Bohn and Kelli Arena contributed to this report.

[Saraj Fanático]

lol.....who gives a flying crap???

If your trying to get some Muslims started here your doing and awful job poutis because I am personally tired of arguing about Muslim reputation in the West. I simply don't care no more. When the US and Americans starts caring about their reputation to us then we might too someday. They and you yourself should learn that. Thats my statement on this. So drink up all the propaganda you want. I so hope you post a article of US soldiers going to training so they can travel overseas to kill Iraqis for oil. Whats the difference between that and this? You tell me.

[Pape]

Those sound like Albanian names aka Kosovars its funny how the media says Yugoslavian people, maybe they should be saying Yugoslavians want to secede from Serbia too? Well give them their "freedom" and let them establish a criminal, drug, and now terrorist haven as well in the middle of Europe?

I would have to say USA has a hard time figuring out who their friends are, it might be good to ***k somebody over because it economically benefits you but people need to think a little bit ahead.

[poutismalakas]

lol.....who gives a flying crap???

If your trying to get some Muslims started here your doing and awful job poutis because I am personally tired of arguing about Muslim reputation in the West. I simply don't care no more. When the US and Americans starts caring about their reputation to us then we might too someday. They and you yourself should learn that. Thats my statement on this. So drink up all the propaganda you want. I so hope you post a article of US soldiers going to training so they can travel overseas to kill Iraqis for oil. Whats the difference between that and this? You tell me.

First of ALL do NOT talk to me like that!:mad2:

I find it funny when I just report a VALID news article I get crapped on! Also 3of those guys ARE Illegal Aliens as well! Another reason to control our borders! Also 4 of those guys are Kosovo Albanians! Nice to know that Clinton and NATO went over there to save those people back in 99 and look how those 4 repay us!

It sounds like you need some Massingale :D !

[Saraj Fanático]

First of ALL do NOT talk to me like that!:mad2:

I find it funny when I just report a VALID news article I get crapped on! Also 3of those guys ARE Illegal Aliens as well! Another reason to control our borders! Also 4 of those guys are Kosovo Albanians! Nice to know that Clinton and NATO went over there to save those people back in 99 and look how those 4 repay us!

It sounds like you need some Massingale :D !


You want to complain about Border control? Post a few articles about the California transformation into Mexico City.

And why are you saying 'OUR Borders', and 'Repay US'? Seems to me that your forgetting your a Greek. All 'Americanized'. :rolleyes:

Again, I really don't care about this since the US has commercials encouraging their youth to go to some BS war to fight for a ass clowns Oil in another country. Whats the difference between that and this? So why is this such an issue? Oh right, a Muslim did this so its Terrorism and related to 'Radicalism'. American BS. :rolleyes: If this is 'Radicalism' then the US has Radicalism in action happening everyday right there on the TV screens of American households.

[poutismalakas]

You want to complain about Border control? Post a few articles about the California transformation into Mexico City.

And why are you saying 'OUR Borders', and 'Repay US'? Seems to me that your forgetting your a Greek. All 'Americanized'. :rolleyes:

Again, I really don't care about this since the US has commercials encouraging their youth to go to some BS war to fight for a ass clowns Oil in another country. Whats the difference between that and this? So why is this such an issue? Oh right, a Muslim did this so its Terrorism and related to 'Radicalism'. American BS. :rolleyes: If this is 'Radicalism' then the US has Radicalism in action happening everyday right there on the TV screens of American households.
Do you EVEN know anything about Southern California? Also I am Greek-AMERICAN! I live on San Diego and my brother's wife is Mexican! And I am so for securing the Borders and force the thieving Mexican government and upperclass to stop horading all the money and creat some jobs for the poor in Mexico! I do not blaim those people for wanting a better life! Hell my family left Greece because of the Military Junta!

[Milos_]

If it was Serbs that did that do you think they would say "Former Yugoslav"?Hellll Nooo theyd put the word "Serb" in the article atleast 45 times and have 2 or 3 referances to Srebrenica.

Today at work some dumbasses asked me why my people did that:lol:

[poutismalakas]

If it was Serbs that did that do you think they would say "Former Yugoslav"?Hellll Nooo theyd put the word "Serb" in the article atleast 45 times and have 2 or 3 referances to Srebrenica.

Today at work some dumbasses asked me why my people did that:lol:
Of Course they did not Say Kosovo cause the lobbists in DC that are pushing for Kosovo to be independant from Serbia don't want anything to hurt their chances! we ALL know that for the most part Albanians who live in the former Yugoslavia are from Kosovo!

[Saraj Fanático]

So Kosovo's chances of Independence should be erased because of the actions of 4 men? Wow.

This story shouldn't mix with the issue of Independent recognition.

[Bosnian Unit]

They are from former Yugoslavia, Kosovo was in Yugoslavia but..... its not right to use that term anymore, becouse automaticly i was thinking it was some Bosnian stupid idiots:sad: .Since we where part of former Yugoslavia etc...

The names are Albanian, and they where from Kosovo. They should say Albanians.........but, if you ask me they have seconds strongest lobby in USA after Jews, and thats the reason they are not saying clearly who they are.

I dont know how Albanians are doing that but :yo: ........becouse without their lobbists they would be nothing.Its great to see how such a small country is organized when it comes to that. Again it doesnt matter, how they make their money, becouse at the end of the day whole USA is pumping blood of American soldiers and Iraqi people from those gas stations accros that country.

P.S. I just dont know why ? What is the point ? US is their friend, and is helping them like nobady else. Meybe Serbs organized this, so Americans can change their mind about giving Kosovo to Albanians :lol: !

[Saraj Fanático]

Do you EVEN know anything about Southern California? Also I am Greek-AMERICAN! I live on San Diego and my brother's wife is Mexican! And I am so for securing the Borders and force the thieving Mexican government and upperclass to stop horading all the money and creat some jobs for the poor in Mexico! I do not blaim those people for wanting a better life! Hell my family left Greece because of the Military Junta!


Who's fault is it for what is happening in California and South West US? The US itself. But I cannot blame them because securing an entire border is impossible. Thats just fantasy.

[Saraj Fanático]

Meybe Serbs organized this, so Americans can change their mind about giving Kosovo to Albanians :lol: ![/I]


I think Serbs did this. :sad:

[Milos_]

Like we are smart enough to think of something like that:D

Why wouldnt Albanians do something like that?terrorist acts arent anything new to them..

[Saraj Fanático]

^ Well they can say the same about Serbs. Many can... it just depends on which side your looking at it from.

[Pape]

The names are Albanian, and they where from Kosovo. They should say Albanians.........but, if you ask me they have seconds strongest lobby in USA after Jews, and thats the reason they are not saying clearly who they are.

I dont know how Albanians are doing that but :yo: ........becouse without their lobbists they would be nothing.Its great to see how such a small country is organized when it comes to that.

I'm guessing you love the Jews for their brilliance as well than? :lol: ohh no wait Jews aren't Muslim..

oh wait no do we have "bigot" in here

[poutismalakas]

Who's fault is it for what is happening in California and South West US? The US itself. But I cannot blame them because securing an entire border is impossible. Thats just fantasy.
I did NOT asked you who is at fault I asked if you know anything about the issue since you seem to think you know!:rolleyes:

[ARBANITAI]

First of ALL do NOT talk to me like that!:mad2:

I find it funny when I just report a VALID news article I get crapped on! Also 3of those guys ARE Illegal Aliens as well! Another reason to control our borders! Also 4 of those guys are Kosovo Albanians! Nice to know that Clinton and NATO went over there to save those people back in 99 and look how those 4 repay us!

It sounds like you need some Massingale :D !

Your foolish idea :boo: thankfully Clinton and the US are pretty much clever then you or anyother else to realize us much better what we are then any of you..
as i said Albanians are agaisnt this ACT! the US knows it. and We all denounce it!

these 4 guys are not from Kosova, they are ethnic albanians from Macedonia... and second, all albanians are agains them, and what they did, becuase Albanians are the most pro-US ppl in the whole europe, and because of 4 ppl you cannot say an all nation is like that..

SO PLZ WATCH YOUR MOUTH WHEN YOU GENERLIZE

[ARBANITAI]

Of Course they did not Say Kosovo cause the lobbists in DC that are pushing for Kosovo to be independant from Serbia don't want anything to hurt their chances! we ALL know that for the most part Albanians who live in the former Yugoslavia are from Kosovo!

WRONG :lol:

Albanians from yugoslavia are not only from Kosova, you have Albanians in montenegro, in Serbia, in Sandjak, in Kosovo and in Fyrom...

And Albanians made 45 % of the Macedonia republic, so they are allmost same like kosovar Albanians, and they are allmost equal to slavic macedonians.

[ARBANITAI]

They are from former Yugoslavia, Kosovo was in Yugoslavia but..... its not right to use that term anymore, becouse automaticly i was thinking it was some Bosnian stupid idiots:sad: .Since we where part of former Yugoslavia etc...

The names are Albanian, and they where from Kosovo. They should say Albanians.........but, if you ask me they have seconds strongest lobby in USA after Jews, and thats the reason they are not saying clearly who they are.

I dont know how Albanians are doing that but :yo: ........becouse without their lobbists they would be nothing.Its great to see how such a small country is organized when it comes to that. Again it doesnt matter, how they make their money, becouse at the end of the day whole USA is pumping blood of American soldiers and Iraqi people from those gas stations accros that country.

P.S. I just dont know why ? What is the point ? US is their friend, and is helping them like nobady else. Meybe Serbs organized this, so Americans can change their mind about giving Kosovo to Albanians :lol: !

The reason why the dont say "Albanians" because these men are not from Republic of Albania but from former Yugoslavia, (fyrom)
the names are Albanian but they are not From Kosova but from Ilirida the ethnic Albanian tribe in today Macedonia..

Though I dont agree with you that without our "lobbist" we would be nothing ? how in earth can you say that. sounds very stupid if you ask me, thats wrong, WE are a very proud Nation with great history and culture, we work for our country, and elswhere and we have good relationships with our allies. and there is nothing wrong with that. we are majority Muslim country in europe yet we have exellent relations with europe and especially US, we are a good example of how a Muslim civilized country should be, and wer proud of that. we denounce terrorism as well as religion does.

these 4 men are a disagrace for all Albanians and Islam, everyone down there are agaisnt them, no Albanian could ever think of terrorism and especially not against US whom we have good relations with.. Terrorism is a denounced by both Albanian and Islamic culture.

But we believe these guys were somhow payed by anyone to do that terrible act, just to give bad image to Albanians, even though even the americans them selfes said that these people were amateurs and had no relation-lines to other terrorist groups like al-qaeda or anyone else..

even the parents of these guys are against them, becouse no albanian accept this act of terrorism, they just make them selfes stupid and shamefull thats all.

[ARBANITAI]

Like we are smart enough to think of something like that:D

Why wouldnt Albanians do something like that?terrorist acts arent anything new to them..

ha you said so :lol:

serbs are by far the most ppl from europe who can make any terrorist attacks on US, because we all know mostly all serbs hate US because of the nato bombings on serbia and thats true.. like it or not :lol:

While Albanians are by far the last people of europe who can ever do any terrorist attacks on US, we allways had good relationships with them and they helped us during wars, so this is what happend now with these 4 albanians from macedonia is totallay unacceptable by alla Albanians. and that does not give the wiew of albanians, we are all against them, and the us know that because of 4 idiots they would not generalize all albanians for that shamefull act, since they know us very well thankfully :)

[ARBANITAI]

^ Well they can say the same about Serbs. Many can... it just depends on which side your looking at it from.

Thats what we all believe they were so... :sad:

[Al-Arabiya]

While Albanians are by far the last people of europe who can ever do any terrorist attacks on US, we allways had good relationships with them and they helped us during wars,


Albanias friend is not only US ;)

Albanians Also enjoys great respect upon all middle eastern / Arab countries, We cannot forget the great Albanian man (Muhammed Ali of Egypt) later the King of Egypt, and his Son Farouk it was they the albanians that Helped both Egypt and Libya gaining Independence From that time of ottoman Empire, with Muhammed ali in head, (king of Egypt) that established the kingdom of Egypt, and who would rule both Egypt and Sudan until the mid-20th Century.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Ali_of_Egypt

Or the new eras, the Albanian Al-albanee one of the greatest Hadiths and Quran scholar, an important and influential Islamic scholar of the 20th Century in middle east.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_Naasiruddeen_al-Albaanee

My Opinion about that, is that Islam is against this, and it denounce terrorism as well, i fully agree with arbanitai there where he said, that Albanians are against of course they are, any good muslim will be, We neither accept such things and more of all it does not represent islam in anyway, allright they say "Allahu Ekber" (God Is Great) of course he is, but God doesnt say kill ppl, and he denounce any kind of these.

[poutismalakas]

The reason why the dont say "Albanians" because these men are not from Republic of Albania but from former Yugoslavia, (fyrom)
the names are Albanian but they are not From Kosova but from Ilirida the ethnic Albanian tribe in today Macedonia..

Though I dont agree with you that without our "lobbist" we would be nothing ? how in earth can you say that. sounds very stupid if you ask me, thats wrong, WE are a very proud Nation with great history and culture, we work for our country, and elswhere and we have good relationships with our allies. and there is nothing wrong with that. we are majority Muslim country in europe yet we have exellent relations with europe and especially US, we are a good example of how a Muslim civilized country should be, and wer proud of that. we denounce terrorism as well as religion does.

these 4 men are a disagrace for all Albanians and Islam, everyone down there are agaisnt them, no Albanian could ever think of terrorism and especially not against US whom we have good relations with.. Terrorism is a denounced by both Albanian and Islamic culture.

But we believe these guys were somhow payed by anyone to do that terrible act, just to give bad image to Albanians, even though even the americans them selfes said that these people were amateurs and had no relation-lines to other terrorist groups like al-qaeda or anyone else..

even the parents of these guys are against them, becouse no albanian accept this act of terrorism, they just make them selfes stupid and shamefull thats all.
So you agree they ARE enthic Albanians!?

[Bosnian Unit]

The reason why the dont say "Albanians" because these men are not from Republic of Albania but from former Yugoslavia, (fyrom)
the names are Albanian but they are not From Kosova but from Ilirida the ethnic Albanian tribe in today Macedonia..

Though I dont agree with you that without our "lobbist" we would be nothing ? how in earth can you say that. sounds very stupid if you ask me, thats wrong, WE are a very proud Nation with great history and culture, we work for our country, and elswhere and we have good relationships with our allies. and there is nothing wrong with that. we are majority Muslim country in europe yet we have exellent relations with europe and especially US, we are a good example of how a Muslim civilized country should be, and wer proud of that. we denounce terrorism as well as religion does.

these 4 men are a disagrace for all Albanians and Islam, everyone down there are agaisnt them, no Albanian could ever think of terrorism and especially not against US whom we have good relations with.. Terrorism is a denounced by both Albanian and Islamic culture.

But we believe these guys were somhow payed by anyone to do that terrible act, just to give bad image to Albanians, even though even the americans them selfes said that these people were amateurs and had no relation-lines to other terrorist groups like al-qaeda or anyone else..

even the parents of these guys are against them, becouse no albanian accept this act of terrorism, they just make them selfes stupid and shamefull thats all.

They are Albanians, doesnt matter if they use to live on Mars.

For example, most of Bosnians here(on SFN) who live in USA now, are still Bosnians and same goes for Albanians.

Second thing is, without Albanian "lobbist" Albania would be nothing. The reason i say that is......your ''mafia'' however you want to call it is making fortune by doing many things, they pay US government and they are on your side. There money(dollar) is GOD. Its not like they are your friends, becouse of some poor Albanian diplomat went there and said can you help us, we are proud and civilized Muslim country and in the same time terrorized by Serbs.

Nobady gives a shit about that, we all know money keeps world going.

In US government is just interest that works..........for example France was their friend, they didnt want to support them on ''war on terror'' and USA doesnt like them anymore......they dont even call FRENCH FRIZE, any more is just frize :D , and they wanted to bring back to USA those dead soldiers who are in France from WWII.

You think they give a damn thing about being Albanian friend ? Come on !
You pay me, we are the superpower and we will help you out!

Another example is Saudi Arabia.......and their trillions of dollars in USA, if there was none of that they would be first target on so called '' war on terror''.

Nothing wrong with country having mafia, doing dirty/bad things to achive its goals.....Italy have it,Russia have it,USA,Israel,China.........everyone, its just the matter of who are better and more organized, and who suck at it:) .

[ARBANITAI]

So you actually think Albanian lobbist are "paying" the US goverment to help os or vica versa right is that so what you mean?? hmm... interesting...

If you think Albanians are paying the US to support Kosovas Independences then you are pretty wrong, because its not only the us, even most of the european countries and else countries around the world see the independence of kosova as the only opportunity way for peace and stability in western balcans. during the war Kosova-albanian people experienced genocide and ethnic cleansing by the serb forces, and all the world saw and realized that it was pure ethnic cleansing, and then someone just has to stop it, for if it wasnt for Nato and us to itervene alot more ppl was going to die and more massacres to happen..!

Saudi Arabia in the other hand has the oil of the earth and by that they are one of the richest countries in the world, probably richer then israel, (but Israel has the strongest lobby in US so..) but we often read and see the US calls Saudi Arabia as the "home of terrorism" or "the protection of terrorists" like Osama Bin Laden, al-qaeda etc, these are of course not true but the prob is the US are still talkin about it. and I dont know why ..?!

What does it says to you, can you end up invanding an whole country if you just have US on your side, and even if you pay them good like "trillions" still can you ?

[poutismalakas]

In US government is just interest that works..........for example France was their friend, they didnt want to support them on ''war on terror'' and USA doesnt like them anymore......they dont even call FRENCH FRIZE, any more is just frize :D , and they wanted to bring back to USA those dead soldiers who are in France from WWII.

It's Freedom Fries, Freedom toast, and freedom kiss!;) I never said I agreed 100% with my country! I think those actions was shamful! I NEVER agreed with the Iraqi war in the first place! Now Im pissed because we have to stay there and we have these pussy liberals (who voted for this STUPID war in the first place) trying force a premature pullout! ALL I have to say is WE NEED TERM LIMITS in the US!!!!

[poutismalakas]

I just found this


WASHINGTON (CNN) -- U.S. authorities have discovered a terrorist plot in the advance stages of planning against U.S. facilities in Germany, a senior federal official told CNN on Friday.

But a senior Pentagon official said there is "nothing new" beyond what led the U.S. State Department to issue a warden message raising security at American facilities three weeks ago.

A spokesman for the U.S. Embassy in Berlin and a spokesman for the German Interior Ministry also said they're not aware of a new threat beyond what led to that message.

The senior federal official said the plot, which has been planned for some time, included the use of bombs and small arms against U.S. facilities -- possibly military facilities. The official called it a "very real threat."

Asked who might be responsible, the official said an al Qaeda affiliate franchise in Europe.

Other members of the intelligence community told CNN they felt the threat information was vague on timing.

The Department of Homeland Security issued a statement saying there was no credible intelligence to suggest an imminent threat on U.S. soil.

The State Department on April 20 sent out a warden message saying: "U.S. diplomatic and consular facilities in Germany are increasing their security posture. We are taking these steps in response to a heightened threat situation."

"They had a level of concern sufficient to cause them to issue the warden message," State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday.

Asked about the reports of a terrorist plot being discovered, he said: "I don't have anything new on that."

German Interior Minister Wolfgang Schaeuble told ABC: "The danger level is high. We are part of the global threat by Islamist terrorism."

U.S. air marshals are providing additional protection of flights between Germany and the United States, law enforcement officials told ABCNews.com.

Germany, which will host the G-8 Summit next month, has been engaged in a security crackdown in recent days. More than 900 personnel took part in anti-terror raids, arresting more than 40 people.

[ARBANITAI]

So you agree they ARE enthic Albanians!?

well unfourtanetly yes.. it looks like they are :sad:

howver its not sure yet who really organized this, many still do not believe an albanian will ever do such thing, their families are suprised as well, they all believe on the corruption of them in somehow, but as i said nothing is sure right now. though not only they were on this, they had a turk as well as a guy from Jordan who was on the group.

But one thing is sure, this act of theirs is not-acceptable by any single albanian, we all denounced it, even though the boys are from Dibra a majority albanian city in western Fyrom, but with this act of theirs they only made fool of them selfes, and no one elses, the US catched them, and they will probably going to stay on jail for life time, and no one will ever support them, even their families are against them, and as they said they never ever had an idea that their immigrant sons one day will ever think of atacking US or making such a foolish act ever.. so its all bullshit, and because of these 4 idiots we cannot give fault to all albanians because we were the first ones who denounced the act of theirs and asked for their punishment.

[Milos_]

Oh I didnt know you guys were actually being sirious about the "Serbs are behind this" thing. wow do you realize how retard that sounds.Is it that hard to belive that some Albanian muslims are Islamic extremists who hate America and what it stands for?Every individual is diffrent.

[ARBANITAI]

I highly doubt that what you said, he may be religious muslim but what, why should he do such act, when he knows religion denounce it,
(if they are muslims) and when albanians generally no matter what religon they have, never used to hate US, because we have no reason to do,and even if these ppl really "hated" US, then they must have known that "terrorism" or violence is never the best way to tell anyone that you hate him! there are allways other ways, but terrorism is not the solution!

[Saraj Fanático]

I did NOT asked you who is at fault I asked if you know anything about the issue since you seem to think you know!:rolleyes:


Yes I do. But it seems to me that your the one having trouble understanding that securing a border (Especially the size of South US) is impossible. Its just a fantasy thinking that someone will ever succeed at that. So deal with it. Plus I don't get all this anger, immigrants drive America anyways.

PS: If you even bothered to understand my last reply you would know I was replying to your idea of 'Securing the Border'.

[Bosnian Unit]

So you actually think Albanian lobbist are "paying" the US goverment to help os or vica versa right is that so what you mean?? hmm... interesting...

If you think Albanians are paying the US to support Kosovas Independences then you are pretty wrong, because its not only the us, even most of the european countries and else countries around the world see the independence of kosova as the only opportunity way for peace and stability in western balcans. during the war Kosova-albanian people experienced genocide and ethnic cleansing by the serb forces, and all the world saw and realized that it was pure ethnic cleansing, and then someone just has to stop it, for if it wasnt for Nato and us to itervene alot more ppl was going to die and more massacres to happen..!

Saudi Arabia in the other hand has the oil of the earth and by that they are one of the richest countries in the world, probably richer then israel, (but Israel has the strongest lobby in US so..) but we often read and see the US calls Saudi Arabia as the "home of terrorism" or "the protection of terrorists" like Osama Bin Laden, al-qaeda etc, these are of course not true but the prob is the US are still talkin about it. and I dont know why ..?!

What does it says to you, can you end up invanding an whole country if you just have US on your side, and even if you pay them good like "trillions" still can you ?


Oh come on man, its REAL WORLD...politicians in public act smart, talk properly etc...but behaind close doors they are just like us, the people who likes to ***k, drink,use drugs , and they have enemys:sad: . And dirty mind :lol: !


One example.........USA helped Saddam Hussein to fight Iran, then they attack him.

USA helped and arm Talibans to fight Soviet Union(Russia) and then attack them.


IT was USA/IRAN who got those Mujahadeens into BIH during war, and few years ago they ask Bosnian government to kick them out, and they took some of them in Guantanamo Bay.


IN POLITICS THERE IS JUST INTEREST.

You think Bush is siting in WH there and thinking, oh lets help those poor people in Burkina Faso or Kosovo........Yea right :lol: , its just interest.....Iraq have oil, huge profit thats why they are there.......Somalia didnt have shit thats why they got out..........N.Korea dont have shit, thats why they will never attack them and waste time .......yea they will talk crap like axis of evil etc....but it will end right there. Iran .........woa richest then Iraq, and there is huge possibility there will be some bad shit happening in future in that part of the world.

The reason they help Albanians in Kosovo is becouse thats the place where America can set Europe on fire anytime they want to, just like Bosnia. Thats why they stoped Bosnians and Croats to clean Bosnia from Serb extremists.


Did you 4get, every 30-40 years there is wars on Balkans ? You know why, well i just told you..........and we are just stupid to realize that all people here...Bosnians,Serbs,Croats,Albanians........We are one BIG BLACK HOLE ON EUROPEAN MAP....We fight their wars......we pay for it, we just get to that point where everything is stable and life is good, then BOOM.......Balkans on breaking news ! Becouse politicians here are dumb as ***k, and people are more dumber to stand behaind them. 20 years ago Romania,Slovenia,Slovakia,Czech Rep.......where countries whos dream was to become what we where.....then we had to fight,take ourselfs 20 years back.....and now they are all in front of us in any aspect of life.

P.S.About your American friends and allies, i just hope they dont threat you as rest of their allies.Either they attack you first then they become your friends/allies, or they become your friends and they attack you later:lol:.
Just take a look at Japan,Germany,Iraq,Afghanistan,almost whole Central and South America,Vietnam etc..

[Bosnian Unit]

It's Freedom Fries, Freedom toast, and freedom kiss!;) I never said I agreed 100% with my country! I think those actions was shamful! I NEVER agreed with the Iraqi war in the first place! Now Im pissed because we have to stay there and we have these pussy liberals (who voted for this STUPID war in the first place) trying force a premature pullout! ALL I have to say is WE NEED TERM LIMITS in the US!!!!

Even better, i knew you guys would think of something better then just a fries:smoking: .

USA as a country/people is great.......its just politics/government who ***k up things. Not just there but everywhere, and when you set your mind free and think clear about all that, im sure every other country if it was on US position would be bad ass just like they are, if not worse.

I had a lot of mixed comments about politics etc......but ***k it, i have just this one life to live.....I dont care anymore, shit will allways happen !