Week 30: Fenerbahce vs. Denizlispor

[Fenerliyim]

With all the talk about leaving the league we forgot about this. This game is tomorrow. Big rumor we wont let Ligtv inside the stadium. No punishments have been given yet, lol no surprise they want us to serve them during the derbies.

Is a must win game.

[kanaryamerika]

Prediction...


fener will NOT pull out from the league.

fener WILL let ligtv inside the stadium.

all of this will be FORGOTTEN in two weeks.

These are all distraction techniques. the managment is doing a brilliant job at setting up a pressured environment for the refs and federation. they will be extra careful not to make a mistake and maybe even favor fener. this is nothing but smart management.

[Metink5]

we suck. we should have won

[Fenerliyim]

I'm just sick and tired of the TSL.

[Fenerliyim]

Something has to change, if we dont win the league this year, u can kiss the board goodbye. And if we do remove ourselves from our league we will be the laughing stock of the world.

[Bina]

If there is one thing i really DON'T care about at the moment then it's any brainless windbags and their opinion. Let them laugh, you know your grade.

[cengo]

You dont deserve to win anything if you miss this many chances....it's rediculous.

First the bjk game and now this....it's too much for my brain to process. Im taking a vacation away from Fenerbahce.

[Bina]

You dont deserve to win anything if you miss this many chances....it's rediculous.

First the bjk game and now this....it's too much for my brain to process. Im taking a vacation away from Fenerbahce.

What do you mean?? What does a "vacation away from Fenerbahçe" look like??? I can't believe you're saying this. Not you.

[Metink5]

we will win next week in Inonu

[cengo]

Empty promises from our players every week.

I have lost count of their request that the fans comes to the games and give them full support. And if we do so they will make us proud.

But they are not doing their part.

We know that they dont get as upset as we fans when they lose points....they are getting their paycheck anyways.

We on the other hand have to go through every week in dispair trying to find a bright side after every point loss and hold on to that until the next game. I have started to believe that our players dont give a shit whether we win or not.

You have everything you need to become champions....great fans, a great stadium and a great board. What the hell do they need more?

All we want from them is to beat teams like denizlispor especially when it means this much for us. You are 2-0 up in the second half and you give away valuable points just like that.

In times like this when everyone is against us these pointloses hurts 10 times more.

We lost the championship to denizli last year...and the way we lost was disgraceful because they stopped the game for over 20 minutes with their confetti shows.

Do i ask too much when i want the players to take this game personal and win the game no matter what?

It's not like we are playing agaianst a strong side....we are playing against Denizlsispor.

We have lost so many points to the teams in the bottom of the league that noone can go out and say that we deserve to win the league.

This team needs to get the message that the fans wont do all the sacrifizing anymore.

We are the best team in Türkiye but for some reason we are not able to show it and we allow those spineless teams to think they are something.

I love this team from the bottom of my heart and i will probably be buried with Fenerbahce as my last thought...but right now i feel my love is not returned and i wont take another step until i see the team making an effort to respond my love for them.

[Bina]

Still i don't know what "vacation from the team means"... not watching the games, staying away from the forums?? Whatsoever... I will think about your text and reply sonn, supposedly on tuesday as i'll be out til late evening tomorrow.

I didn't sleep since Thursday, only temporary 20 minutes naps if any. Unbelievable how much this team influences our lifes. Time for a rest now, talk later. Take care everybody.

[serhat09]

Hate to break it to ya, but there is a life outside Fenerbahce.

Yea I'm getting really tired of aging 20 years ahead of my time. At this rate i'll die at 27 with this team. I just want the season to finish so I can have some time off from this roller coaster ride. I'm not enjoying it right now.

[Fenerliyim]

after the seasons over we will all just follow the rumors

[Bina]

Sorry, but i really can't and don't believe the players are only out for the money. I don't doubt they care about their paychecks like everybody else does, but i can't imagine ANY player thinking of money THE MOMENT HE ENTERS THE PITCH!! I also can't believe they give a shit whether we win or not. This idea is so far away from everything i could ever realize… Maybe i'm naïve but these things i just refuse to believe, even only to think about it.

How do we know they're not getting upset? There aren't many reports from the locker rooms right after games. All i remember right now is Kezman after one Uefa game boxing some pictures from the wall on his way to the changing room.

Actually this is all i know to reply. For the rest of what you said below… God, i wish i had answers. Since weeks i'm firing questions to everybody who's close to me. WHY do we miss all these chances we had in so many games??? Even the moment i write this here i realize that i'm shaking my head because it's inapprehensible. Of course there were many games where players didn't give everything, but there were also many games when we played well and STILL missed all chances to score. And if we didn't mess it up, the referees did it for us.

For me this is more than torture at the moment. Two years ago i met Fenerbahçe right after they became champion, i wasn't really involved. Last year i followed all the season but didn't watch any game, i had no addresses yet to watch. I remember the Denizli match last year in May, i listened to Antu radyo and followed the live timing on bwin and Fenerbahce.org. I didn't know the english forums yet and was all alone. I had no idea what happened when the game was interrupted for 20 minutes all of a sudden. Then the result. I didn't speak for a few days. I COULDN'T speak. 5 days later on Saturday afternoon i was on Antu when suddenly everything disappeared and the screen turned yellow and red. 6S'lis had hacked the forum and it should take until Sunday afternoon until it was fixed. This woke me up. Additionally i met my friend and Fenerbahçe teacher same evening in a chat room. We hadn't met since a few months and i was happy to have him at my side. For the first time i could share my feelings and i was also the first he talked to after the loss, although he lives in Istanbul. He told me about the fights in Kadiköy after the final match, how sore 6S winners tried to provoke although they just became "champions" and how they were banished from holy ground.

This season i saw almost every game, followed everything in all details and the tension i feel right now i can't describe with words. I have no doubt we're capable to do it and i have enough faith to still believe in this team, no matter what happened this season, but i'm so scared of more incidents that will keep us away from what we deserve. And yes, i do think we deserve this championship, despite all problems the team showed. I mean, the whole season started in a strange way… a coach who obviously wasn't first choice, 5 or 6 new players, not to mention the late transfers. The team really had no time to get together before the season started, they had to find together during the events. But despite all these obastacles, they still made it to take the lead and kept leading until the very day, even if it's now running short. Unfotunately it's the same "game" like last season: we missed to gain points when we had the chance to. They could have penalized us until the end of day without doing any harm. But no, we dropped points game after game. I really don't want to excuse any mistakes and/or impairments made during the season, but the further we went, the more "active" the official side went. The players are professionals, but i can imagine that it's even hard for a professional to become motivated when they keep kicking your ass, again and again.

But i agree when you say that the players need to be reminded on the TEAM they're playing for and the honourful colours they're wearing.

You said "right now i feel my love is not returned and i wont take another step until i see the team making an effort to respond my love for them." Firstly: Is this really possible? Once Fenerbahçe is with you, you can't stop, no matter what. As far as i got to know you i can't imagine. Maybe i just didn't get your words correctly or maybe i'm interpreting it another way you meant it. And secondly: What i said above, i don't have this feeling at all they aren't responding my love. I don't see them playing heartless. Something went wrong this season and i think it was how it started (transfers blah blah…). Still i'm searching for an answer for all these missed chances which could have put us in such a comfortable position right now.

However, we can't turn back time. We're HERE and NOW and worst thing to do would be to give up at this stage, talking about the players as much as about the supporters.


Empty promises from our players every week.

I have lost count of their request that the fans comes to the games and give them full support. And if we do so they will make us proud.

But they are not doing their part.

We know that they dont get as upset as we fans when they lose points....they are getting their paycheck anyways.

We on the other hand have to go through every week in dispair trying to find a bright side after every point loss and hold on to that until the next game. I have started to believe that our players dont give a shit whether we win or not.

You have everything you need to become champions....great fans, a great stadium and a great board. What the hell do they need more?

All we want from them is to beat teams like denizlispor especially when it means this much for us. You are 2-0 up in the second half and you give away valuable points just like that.

In times like this when everyone is against us these pointloses hurts 10 times more.

We lost the championship to denizli last year...and the way we lost was disgraceful because they stopped the game for over 20 minutes with their confetti shows.

Do i ask too much when i want the players to take this game personal and win the game no matter what?

It's not like we are playing agaianst a strong side....we are playing against Denizlsispor.

We have lost so many points to the teams in the bottom of the league that noone can go out and say that we deserve to win the league.

This team needs to get the message that the fans wont do all the sacrifizing anymore.

We are the best team in Türkiye but for some reason we are not able to show it and we allow those spineless teams to think they are something.

I love this team from the bottom of my heart and i will probably be buried with Fenerbahce as my last thought...but right now i feel my love is not returned and i wont take another step until i see the team making an effort to respond my love for them.

[cengo]

You said "right now i feel my love is not returned and i wont take another step until i see the team making an effort to respond my love for them." Firstly: Is this really possible? Once Fenerbahçe is with you, you can't stop, no matter what. As far as i got to know you i can't imagine. Maybe i just didn't get your words correctly or maybe i'm interpreting it another way you meant it. And secondly: What i said above, i don't have this feeling at all they aren't responding my love. I don't see them playing heartless. Something went wrong this season and i think it was how it started (transfers blah blah…). Still i'm searching for an answer for all these missed chances which could have put us in such a comfortable position right now.



It's not my love for Fenerbahce it's my love for this team which isnt responded.

We have so many succesful teams in other branches that makes us proud every week even when they lose. We have the basketball teams who does wonders even when immediate success wasnt expected....like our men's basketball team.

Our women's team is the best in Türkiye and top 3 in europe and they are living up to their reputation week in and week out.

We have our volleyball teams who keep improving every year. The men's team finnished 3rd and the women still have a shot to become champions...

And all of the other branches.

But our football team hasnt lived up to their reputation. They get the most money, they get the most attention, they have a great stadium, they have great fans basically they have everything they need to become succesful.

They are the best players in Türkiye but they are not shwoing it. They show it occasionally and we trash our opponents in those games. But it's only occasionally...when they feel like playing good.

I cant remember a game where the tension has been skyhigh where they have made us happy. Games crucial for the entire Fenerbahce community....like the game against bjk....the game against denizli....or all those games we dropped points when we already knew that gs and bjk had dropped points.

I just dont get how they cant get motivated to win those games....they know how much those wins would have meant to us.

To earn the love of the fans they have to give something back as well....it cant always be one-sided which it has been for a very long time.

reading their empty promises on our official site really irritates me....because they never keep those promises. On the contrary they lure us into believe that they will make it....but 9 out of ten times they dont.

Fenerbahce is life and we love everything it stands for and seeing our footballteam not living up to the expectations despite them having the best circumstances to succeed pisses me off....even if everyone is against us.

Our team is so much better than our rivals that we should be able to win even with the referees against us.

Look how many chances we wasted against bjk despite us experiencing the worst referee performance the last 15 years. We could have beaten bjk 7-0 under these circumstances.

We could have destroyed bjk but we didnt....why....because Tuncay and alex were too selfish to pass the ball to Kezman who had a better position to score. Because alex had to dribble past everyone (the keeper included) instead of finnishing early like he used to do.

As i said...this team needs to make something big to make us believe on them again. We cant keeping fooling ourselves that it is the fans who wins the games....because we dont.

If they dont there are many other Fenerbahce teams who i can be proud of,

Fenerbahce is not only football...