That's UEFA's real face..

[Emrah]

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/news/kind=1/newsid=531418.html

good lobby, good job guys..
after everthing, only 2 matches stadium ban but with fans.. And the funny one is u can play in cyprus becouse cyprus is more far than 250 kms :lol:
and think about our ban.. 6 matches ban.. without fan and 500 kms away.. but though everything we are the group leader..

but dont forget, there is another game in Istanbul.. if these all's punishment is just that, you will see the real hell.. if we get 2 match ban again like you get,we can play in germany with 80.ooo people so it is not gonna be problem..

and bosnia, they stopped the game for 45 minutes but only money punishment, thats good becouse we are seeing UEFA's real face :smoking:

[Saraj Fanático]

Hey Bosnian players weren't doing sick crap like fighting and the fans weren't throwing glass bottles onto the field. There were no banners that were held up saying racial slurs. So I say Money punishment is just fine.

[Fenerliyim]

some punishment they can still play in greece if i am not mistaken

[poutismalakas]

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/news/kind=1/newsid=531418.html

good lobby, good job guys..
after everthing, only 2 matches stadium ban but with fans.. And the funny one is u can play in cyprus becouse cyprus is more far than 250 kms :lol:
and think about our ban.. 6 matches ban.. without fan and 500 kms away.. but though everything we are the group leader..

but dont forget, there is another game in Istanbul.. if these all's punishment is just that, you will see the real hell.. if we get 2 match ban again like you get,we can play in germany with 80.ooo people so it is not gonna be problem..

and bosnia, they stopped the game for 45 minutes but only money punishment, thats good becouse we are seeing UEFA's real face :smoking:


Dude I think beating up the Players and coaches of the Swiss is a little worse than doing what the Greek fans did???!!!

[PAO_HELLAS]

some punishment they can still play in greece if i am not mistaken

Yes, I repeat what I said in the Euro 2008 forum: The ban mentions 250 kms away from Athens, not 250 kms away from the borders of Greece.

The game can be played normally in Thessaloniki, Herakleon, Ioannina etc. :D.

[plato-ny]

Dude I think beating up the Players and coaches of the Swiss is a little worse than doing what the Greek fans did???!!!

Its ALOT worse. Turkish players got into fights with English players after Turkey-England 0-0 tie and with Latvian police after Latvia-Turkey 1-0. And they hardly got punished. Their player violence was much worse than the Greek fan "violence" and the heavy punishment was a result of those previous results.

[Emrah]

Yes, I repeat what I said in the Euro 2008 forum: The ban mentions 250 kms away from Athens, not 250 kms away from the borders of Greece.

The game can be played normally in Thessaloniki, Herakleon, Ioannina etc. :D.
i didnt know that :)
then it is much more funny :lol:
i remember during the match greek fans fought eachother.. it was worse than footballer's fight eachother but greek tv didnt show any of them :) they r very clever, by this way uefa gave this punishment.. if you dont show anything, you dont get anything :)
you are very good at that, but we are really stupid, after swiss game we gave everything to uefa, becouse rating is everything for turk media :smoking:

so in istanbul, the fans can throw everything on to stand, to the goalkeeper and much more.. 250 kms away from istanbul, there is ankara, izmir :lol:
i will be in that match and will be one of the throwers to nikopolidis's head :p
only joking.. i hope it be a good match :sad:

[kanaryamerika]

everybody knows the UEFA is two faced - no doubt.

They will always punish Turkey more than other countries. Just a sad fact. Maybe someday it could change, but for now it's how it goes.

E.

[OCFP]

everybody knows the UEFA is two faced - no doubt.

They will always punish Turkey more than other countries. Just a sad fact. Maybe someday it could change, but for now it's how it goes.

E.


So go to the Asian Federation like you belong

[Cihangir]

Its ALOT worse. Turkish players got into fights with English players after Turkey-England 0-0 tie and with Latvian police after Latvia-Turkey 1-0. And they hardly got punished. Their player violence was much worse than the Greek fan "violence" and the heavy punishment was a result of those previous results.

Are you comparing racist propaganda to fists and kicks? I'm not defending of blaming anything but what the Greek fans did was much more vicious to what was done to Eto'o. It must have been.. it should(!) have been embarrassing to a "sane" Greek.
And I guess it was since a Greek journalist that I can't remember his name actually apologized to his Turkish colleague for the fans' violence.
Who knows what will happen in Istanbul-another clash of morons.

[Cihangir]

everybody knows the UEFA is two faced - no doubt.

They will always punish Turkey more than other countries. Just a sad fact. Maybe someday it could change, but for now it's how it goes.

E.

Yea just look at Malta and Moldova matches of Greece.

[plato-ny]

Yea just look at Malta and Moldova matches of Greece.

To all my Greeks and soccer fans, allow me to introduce the new Benfica64: Cihangir

[poutismalakas]

Are you comparing racist propaganda to fists and kicks? I'm not defending of blaming anything but what the Greek fans did was much more vicious to what was done to Eto'o. It must have been.. it should(!) have been embarrassing to a "sane" Greek.
And I guess it was since a Greek journalist that I can't remember his name actually apologized to his Turkish colleague for the fans' violence.
Who knows what will happen in Istanbul-another clash of morons.

call it like you want it! Players fighting on the field is worse since we all know that fans can and do crazy shit BUT the athelets SHOULD BE COOL!

[el Turco]

call it like you want it! Players fighting on the field is worse since we all know that fans can and do crazy shit BUT the athelets SHOULD BE COOL!

ok, than. Is it fair to punish fans for what athletes did? Players that were involved in the incident all received 6 match bans. But the fans did NOTHING. Not one single thing were thrown to the field.

Also, Swiss players were involved, too. Why didnt Switzerland received any punishment. Could it be because Blatter is a Swiss. Nah, i dont think so, that cant happen. :rolleyes:

And I am very sorry to say this. As much as I dont want it to happen, there will be some crazy stuff when you guys come to Istanbul.

So go to the Asian Federation like you belong

Sorry, but this the only meaningless post in this topic.

[poutismalakas]

ok, than. Is it fair to punish fans for what athletes did? Players that were involved in the incident all received 6 match bans. But the fans did NOTHING. Not one single thing were thrown to the field.

Also, Swiss players were involved, too. Why didnt Switzerland received any punishment. Could it be because Blatter is a Swiss. Nah, i dont think so, that cant happen. :rolleyes:

And I am very sorry to say this. As much as I dont want it to happen, there will be some crazy stuff when you guys come to Istanbul.



Sorry, but this the only meaningless post in this topic.
Which would you have preferred?> Those player given 6 games suspensions? That would have KILLED your chances in the EuroCup!

Also who started the fighting?

[el Turco]

Which would you have preferred?> Those player given 6 games suspensions? That would have KILLED your chances in the EuroCup!

Also who started the fighting?

They WERE given 6 match bans.

Im saying, eventhough we should of got the biggest ban( which we did), Switzerland should have been banned, too.

[Fener19*07bahce]

ok, than. Is it fair to punish fans for what athletes did? Players that were involved in the incident all received 6 match bans. But the fans did NOTHING. Not one single thing were thrown to the field.

Also, Swiss players were involved, too. Why didnt Switzerland received any punishment. Could it be because Blatter is a Swiss. Nah, i dont think so, that cant happen. :rolleyes:

And I am very sorry to say this. As much as I dont want it to happen, there will be some crazy stuff when you guys come to Istanbul.


Sorry, but this the only meaningless post in this topic.
I am really worrying about that. I hope the police'll keep the hooliys out but i doubt the police will have any effect.

[OCFP]

If we are losing nothing will happen. If greece wins in turkey, then the cry babies will start stupid shit.

[PAO_HELLAS]

Are you comparing racist propaganda to fists and kicks? I'm not defending of blaming anything but what the Greek fans did was much more vicious to what was done to Eto'o. It must have been.. it should(!) have been embarrassing to a "sane" Greek.
And I guess it was since a Greek journalist that I can't remember his name actually apologized to his Turkish colleague for the fans' violence.
Who knows what will happen in Istanbul-another clash of morons.

Which is the racist propaganda? The penalty was given because of the clashes between APOEL and Olympiacos supporters during the game.

[Centarfor9]

and bosnia, they stopped the game for 45 minutes but only money punishment, thats good becouse we are seeing UEFA's real face :smoking:
:boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo: :boo:

in Turkey's incident players were involved which is much worse

if you ask me Uefa went easy on Turkey

your coach started all that crap if i remember

[Centarfor9]

If we are losing nothing will happen. If greece wins in turkey, then the cry babies will start stupid shit.
sure that's possible

there are very small chances of that happenin but it possible

[el Turco]

If we are losing nothing will happen. If greece wins in turkey, then the cry babies will start stupid shit.

like they did in Greece. :)

[OCFP]

like they did in Greece. :)


Yup. but we are still ahead of u in the standings :lol: :lol:

[el Turco]

Yup. but we are still ahead of u in the standings :lol: :lol:

that wont last too long. :)

[OCFP]

that wont last too long. :)


If u draw against Norway and lose to Bosnia it will

[el Turco]

If u draw against Norway and lose to Bosnia it will

we shall wait and see. :)

[OCFP]

we shall wait and see. :)

We lost in Heaven. It will be very hard to win in Hell.

[())__Green__))>]

^lol wowww
easy on the greek mythology there
like i said before
only way for Greece to beat turkey away is if Zeus strikes the Turkish team dead

[())__Green__))>]

If we are losing nothing will happen. If greece wins in turkey, then the cry babies will start stupid shit.
hypocrit... you guys were crying that you lost on your independance day to turkey
and started throwing stuff on turkish players
so if the same happens in turkey.. its only fair
what goes around comes around

[OCFP]

^lol wowww
easy on the greek mythology there
like i said before
only way for Greece to beat turkey away is if Zeus strikes the Turkish team dead


U better hope Greece wins retard bc there is no other way ur poor little country qualifies. Last I remember we made u look like kids beating u 4-0 in ur stadium.

[OCFP]

hypocrit... you guys were crying that you lost on your independance day to turkey
and started throwing stuff on turkish players
so if the same happens in turkey.. its only fair
what goes around comes around

whats ur point. Do u blame us??? Its our most proud day in our History and we got embarest on the anniversity. Whats Turkey excuse??? They didnt take enough land from us??? Or 400 years in slavery wasnt enough time 4 them.
Guess they dont have history lessons in ur poor little 3rd world country.

[())__Green__))>]

^look at the greek so offensive
typical greek...
when bosnia played serbia away
our war was recently yours was what 400 years ago ???!?!?
we did fight with the serb fans too
but we dont cry like you greeks
we get over it
so cry me a river
and btw we didnt get raped that badly either 4:1

[Bosanac]

We lost in Heaven. It will be very hard to win in Hell.


/ Calling OCFP to Planet Earth /



You've been warned 30 percent for the following post, please, do not insult our members.

U better hope Greece wins retard bc there is no other way ur poor little country qualifies. Last I remember we made u look like kids beating u 4-0 in ur stadium.

[Cihangir]

U better hope Greece wins retard bc there is no other way ur poor little country qualifies. Last I remember we made u look like kids beating u 4-0 in ur stadium.

Control your temper and show some respect!

[())__Green__))>]

U better hope Greece wins retard bc there is no other way ur poor little country qualifies. Last I remember we made u look like kids beating u 4-0 in ur stadium.
lol i will really look forward to that game
4:0 it was our old team after the goal we just stopped playing our players quit that game
obviously everyone stopped why play on
but now.. now we have a new team
all youth all great talents
beat norway, turkey, malta
and you guys lost to turkey
just i cant wait to watch the bosnia greece game
since you like attacking us so much
typical greek
once its over i would love to see an appology

[())__Green__))>]

^ i dont like insulting people
but you're being a hypocrit
everything that the greeks do is ok
but when turks do it... ohh terrorists
you guys should just be happy you guys barely beat malta and moldova
that dive... you can see it from 20 miles away

[Cihangir]

^
True.

[OCFP]

^look at the greek so offensive
typical greek...
when bosnia played serbia away
our war was recently yours was what 400 years ago ???!?!?
we did fight with the serb fans too
but we dont cry like you greeks
we get over it
so cry me a river
and btw we didnt get raped that badly either 4:1

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83886/index.html

That looks like 4-0 to me.

[OCFP]

Control your temper and show some respect!

Your right sorry. BTW why do u have King Leonidas a "Spartan" and saying Besiktas under it???????????????

[Centarfor9]

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83886/index.html

That looks like 4-0 to me.
yup

Charisteas 8(pen), Patsatzoglou 82, Samaras 85, Katsouranis 90+ 4

that's 4

i think it's self explanatory

[OCFP]

yup

Charisteas 8(pen), Patsatzoglou 82, Samaras 85, Katsouranis 90+ 4

that's 4

i think it's self explanatory

Wheres the 1????????

[OCFP]

/ Calling OCFP to Planet Earth /



You've been warned 30 percent for the following post, please, do not insult our members.

Im not coming into ur Fourms and posting anything. I stay right here. IN THE GREEK FORUMS and I stat my opinion as I see it.

[Cihangir]

Your right sorry. BTW why do u have King Leonidas a "Spartan" and saying Besiktas under it???????????????

Because I value Greeks just like I value any other people and historical/mythological figure. I guess it's unlike you.

[Centarfor9]

Wheres the 1????????
where is the 2?????? yup that is the real question

and you think about it

i see no two

where is it?

[Cihangir]

Im not coming into ur Fourms and posting anything. I stay right here. IN THE GREEK FORUMS and I stat my opinion as I see it.

Oh so you're a forumist?

[Centarfor9]

Im not coming into ur Fourms and posting anything. I stay right here. IN THE GREEK FORUMS and I stat my opinion as I see it.
insulting is not stating ur opinion

[OCFP]

where is the 2?????? yup that is the real question

yup and you think about it

i see no two

where is it?

He said the score was 4-1. I corrected him. I dont know what ur trying to prove?

[el Turco]

Im not coming into ur Fourms and posting anything. I stay right here. IN THE GREEK FORUMS and I stat my opinion as I see it.

Does posting in Greek forum give you a right to call Bosnia "poor little" country?

You owe an apology to Bosnians.

[Centarfor9]

He said the score was 4-1. I corrected him. I dont know what ur trying to prove?
what u smoking? send me some of that :lol:

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

[OCFP]

what u smoking? send me some of that :lol:

WHAT ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT?

Originally Posted by FK-Sarajevo11
^look at the greek so offensive
typical greek...
when bosnia played serbia away
our war was recently yours was what 400 years ago ???!?!?
we did fight with the serb fans too
but we dont cry like you greeks
we get over it
so cry me a river
and btw we didnt get raped that badly either 4:1

Whats the last line stat????????????

[Cihangir]

Does posting in Greek forum give you a right to call Bosnia "poor little" country?

You owe an apology to Bosnians.

Hey let's all go back to our forum and call Greeks homosexuals.

Seriously I don't get people with that mentality. This is a forum. Not a Greek, not a Bosnian, or Turkish one. We are all football lovers who share ideas about anything. When will people stop classifying every f*cking thing in life!?

[el Turco]

Originally Posted by FK-Sarajevo11
^look at the greek so offensive
typical greek...
when bosnia played serbia away
our war was recently yours was what 400 years ago ???!?!?
we did fight with the serb fans too
but we dont cry like you greeks
we get over it
so cry me a river
and btw we didnt get raped that badly either 4:1

Whats the last line stat????????????

4-1, 4-0

Big difference.

[Centarfor9]

Originally Posted by FK-Sarajevo11
^look at the greek so offensive
typical greek...
when bosnia played serbia away
our war was recently yours was what 400 years ago ???!?!?
we did fight with the serb fans too
but we dont cry like you greeks
we get over it
so cry me a river
and btw we didnt get raped that badly either 4:1

Whats the last line stat????????????
why would i care?

this is my post #40 (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showpost.php?p=849948&postcount=40)

Are you having a bad day or something? :)

[OCFP]

Does posting in Greek forum give you a right to call Bosnia "poor little" country?

You owe an apology to Bosnians.

IM SORRY BOSNIANS. Your right. It just pisses me off that they would rather see us lose, than have a more favorable result go there way, like a draw or even a greek win in turkey.

[el Turco]

Hey let's all go back to our forum and call Greeks homosexuals.

Seriously I don't get people with that mentality. This is a forum. Not a Greek, not a Bosnian, or Turkish one. We are all football lovers who share ideas about anything. When will people stop classifying every f*cking thing in life!?

I was about the write the same thing, but then I thought they wouldnt even get the idea, and be offended.

[OCFP]

I was about the write the same thing, but then I thought they wouldnt even get the idea, and be offended.

I wouldnt even see it bc i dont go into your forums.

[Bosanac]

Im not coming into ur Fourms and posting anything. I stay right here. IN THE GREEK FORUMS and I stat my opinion as I see it.


You are in my forums and in my forums, I want no insults.

Understood?

[el Turco]

IM SORRY BOSNIANS. Your right. It just pisses me off that they would rather see us lose, than have a more favorable result go there way, like a draw or even a greek win in turkey.

If you had Cyprus in your group, wouldnt you want Greece and Cyprus advance together? :)

That's what they want, too. (at least most of them :D)

They want Turkey and Bosnia to advance together. And so do we. :)

[Cihangir]

IM SORRY BOSNIANS. Your right. It just pisses me off that they would rather see us lose, than have a more favorable result go there way, like a draw or even a greek win in turkey.

Remember at least me who actually supported Greece in some occasions. I seldom Turkish nationalism but all I can see in Greeks is they simply are dominated by that tradition of hate.
Not everybody is racist on this planet.

[OCFP]

You are in my forums and in my forums, I want no insults.

Understood?

Ok sorry

[el Turco]

I wouldnt even see it bc i dont go into your forums.

Our forums. :lol:

I never knew we owed a forum. :D

[OCFP]

If you had Cyprus in your group, wouldnt you want Greece and Cyprus advance together? :)

That's what they want, too. (at least most of them :D)

They want Turkey and Bosnia to advance together. And so do we. :)

Thats a little different. We speak the same language. Big difference. And if u expect Greece to lose 3 out of the next 5 games, its not happening. Look out for ur own interests at this point.
But ok i see where ur coming from.

[OCFP]

Our forums. :lol:

I never knew we owed a forum. :D

U know exactly what i mean

[Cihangir]

It just felt weird. =P

Our forum, is a very very very fine forum

[el Turco]

Thats a little different. We speak the same language. Big difference. And if u expect Greece to lose 3 out of the next 5 games, its not happening. Look out for ur own interests at this point.
But ok i see where ur coming from.

:question::question:

[Centarfor9]

OCFP Bosnia doesn't need any help to go through. All we need is to win our next 4 games. Our last game against Turkey won't matter.

and i don't care who wins Turkey or Greece

but we would like if Turkey won since that would make our job easier

Greece will not beat Turkey and if Norway game is away that game will be hard to win

GRE vs BiH game is up in the air

it will be a must win for Greece

[OCFP]

OCFP Bosnia doesn't need any help to go through. All we need is to win our next 4 games. Our last game against Turkey won't matter.

and i don't care who wins Turkey or Greece

but we would like if Turkey won since that would make our job easier

Greece will not beat Turkey and if Norway game is away that game will be hard to win

GRE vs BiH game is up in the air

it will be a must win for Greece

Every game is a must win for every team. we are allowed 1 slip up. No other team is though.

[())__Green__))>]

http://www.uefa.com/competitions/eur...886/index.html

That looks like 4-0 to me.
i know im talking about serbia game since u like comparing
and that game, seriously i totally forgot about it and the hungary game because our old team was garbage what do they have 2 prove
our new team is actually kickass and modified
now try beating us 4-0.. u guys barely got passed malta with that dive

looks like 4-1 to me ;)
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83887/index.html

[())__Green__))>]

He said the score was 4-1. I corrected him. I dont know what ur trying to prove?
you really must be on crack
im talkin about the turkey greece game

[OCFP]

i know im talking about serbia game since u like comparing
and that game, seriously i totally forgot about it and the hungary game because our old team was garbage what do they have 2 prove
our new team is actually kickass and modified
now try beating us 4-0.. u guys barely got passed malta with that dive

looks like 4-1 to me ;)
http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83887/index.html


i like this one better http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/history/season=2004/round=1623/match=1059194/index.html

;) ;) ;)

[OCFP]

you really must be on crack
im talkin about the turkey greece game

Be more clear next time.

[plato-ny]

Why cant the Turks and Bosnians admit that Cihangir started this whole mess? He comes into the Greek forum and digs up an old thread and starts posting provocative comments about the Greek national team, comments based on irrationalism and not opinions. He says that Greece scored a goal at the 96th minute, because of the refs and UEFA, against Moldova, which is clearly stupid because proven footage shows that Greece scored at the 93rd minute. I also recall EVERY Turk and Bosnian here going crazy about that yet I showed them footage and proved them all wrong. So, UEFA did not "help" Greece as there.

He also says that Greece scored a dive against Malta yet NOBODY on Malta said it was a dive. Why didnt Malta make any kind of fuss if it was a dive? Also, about his comments that UEFA is "helping" Greece, where was UEFA to "help" Italy, the 1982 WC champ, qualify for the Euro 1984, of which they did not qualify??? Wouldnt they have wanted to avoid that kind of embarassment of which u say UEFA is trying to avoid with Greece??? Look who is "classifying" everything", something Cihangir said he hated.

Oh, about Cihangir's avatar, he says he "respects" Greece (even though his posts prove otherwise), yet that is nothing more than a mockery. Look at it for what it is. So, he is the villian in all this because he is the instigator and NONE of you who side with them want to accept that.

[el Turco]

whats ur point. Do u blame us??? Its our most proud day in our History and we got embarest on the anniversity. Whats Turkey excuse??? They didnt take enough land from us??? Or 400 years in slavery wasnt enough time 4 them.
Guess they dont have history lessons in ur poor little 3rd world country.

I just saw this post. Could u explain the bolded part a little more.


@plato-ny, everybody has right to express their opinions. Dont get too offended. :)

[OCFP]

I just saw this post. Could u explain the bolded part a little more.


@plato-ny, everybody has right to express their opinions. Dont get too offended. :)

U cant blame us for acting the way we did towards turkey. its understandable. why would turkey do the same at us if we were to get a result in turkey????????? is oct 17 (our next match) turkish independence day. Its not the same thing

[Centarfor9]

i like this one better http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/history/season=2004/round=1623/match=1059194/index.html

;) ;) ;)
i like it also :D

because that old team quit and we have a new and younger team (with new coaches) that beat Turkey 3-2 and Norway 2-1

team that put us in second place and in contention for place in Euro 2008

thank you Greece :D

[Centarfor9]

U cant blame us for acting the way we did towards turkey. its understandable. why would turkey do the same at us if we were to get a result in turkey????????? is oct 17 (our next match) turkish independence day. Its not the same thing
we beat Turkey and we don't insult them and call them names :D

that doesn't give us the right :D

[OCFP]

we beat Turkey and we don't insult them and call them names :D

that doesn't give us the right :D

Its a different situation man.

[Centarfor9]

Its a different situation man.
yeah you guys have history but still show some restraint

we all should look forward to new matches and be respectable (no off topic bashing/only soccer related) when bashing others for their bad preformances :D

plus we are way off topic

[OCFP]

At least we havent had fans just on the field and punch the referee like in the Denmark game. One of the best games I've seen and got ruined by a stupid fan for an obvious penalty. http://www.uefa.com/competitions/euro/fixturesresults/round=2241/match=83725/index.html

[el Turco]

U cant blame us for acting the way we did towards turkey. its understandable. why would turkey do the same at us if we were to get a result in turkey????????? is oct 17 (our next match) turkish independence day. Its not the same thing

Trust me, it's not about independence day. Anyday those two teams play, same things would happen, thanks to our history. And they'll probably happen in Turkey, too.

400 years of slavery?
That made me laugh. :lol:

[OCFP]

Trust me, it's not about independence day. Anyday those two teams play, same things would happen, thanks to our history. And they'll probably happen in Turkey, too.

400 years of slavery?
That made me laugh. :lol:

Nothing happened WC06 qualifiers on our part.

and explain why ur laughing?????

[el Turco]

Nothing happened WC06 qualifiers on our part.

and explain why ur laughing?????

Things happened when FB played against Pana.


I dont wanna go off-topic, but Im laughing because it's not the truth.

[plato-ny]

I just saw this post. Could u explain the bolded part a little more.


@plato-ny, everybody has right to express their opinions. Dont get too offended. :)

yes. everybody can express opinions. But, could u read Cihangir's posts way back and see they were anything but provocations

[())__Green__))>]

Why cant the Turks and Bosnians admit that Cihangir started this whole mess? He comes into the Greek forum and digs up an old thread and starts posting provocative comments about the Greek national team, comments based on irrationalism and not opinions. He says that Greece scored a goal at the 96th minute, because of the refs and UEFA, against Moldova, which is clearly stupid because proven footage shows that Greece scored at the 93rd minute. I also recall EVERY Turk and Bosnian here going crazy about that yet I showed them footage and proved them all wrong. So, UEFA did not "help" Greece as there.

He also says that Greece scored a dive against Malta yet NOBODY on Malta said it was a dive. Why didnt Malta make any kind of fuss if it was a dive? Also, about his comments that UEFA is "helping" Greece, where was UEFA to "help" Italy, the 1982 WC champ, qualify for the Euro 1984, of which they did not qualify??? Wouldnt they have wanted to avoid that kind of embarassment of which u say UEFA is trying to avoid with Greece??? Look who is "classifying" everything", something Cihangir said he hated.

Oh, about Cihangir's avatar, he says he "respects" Greece (even though his posts prove otherwise), yet that is nothing more than a mockery. Look at it for what it is. So, he is the villian in all this because he is the instigator and NONE of you who side with them want to accept that

why would malta need to complain???
its not like uefa would listen to them and their chances of qualifying are slim to none

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NEjSXpY6fWc
look at that... pure dive, judge for yourselves
pretty sad if you ask me...gotta score a cheap goal to beat them
i expected you guys to slaughter them

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[el Turco]

why would malta need to complain???
its not like uefa would listen to them and their chances of qualifying are slim to none

http://youtube.com/watch?v=NEjSXpY6fWc
look at that... pure dive, judge for yourselves
pretty sad if you ask me...gotta score a cheap goal to beat them
i expected you guys to slaughter them

that really is a dive. :)

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insallah, my friend. :)

[Cihangir]

yes. everybody can express opinions. But, could u read Cihangir's posts way back and see they were anything but provocations

I did not intend to provoke anyone but I should have guessed what was gonna happen in this unfortunate Greek-Turkish tension. Anything that comes from a Turk provokes the Greek and anything that comes from a Greek provokes the Turk. The thing I wrote was my opinion and they all went crazy.
I'm sorry, I have nothing against Greece and trhe Greek people and I'm not a stinking nationalist but I still think UEFA uses double standard not just for Turkey but for certain nations for certain reasons and you don't have to be a genius to know how important it is to have the defending champion in the next tournament.

[Gavmundo]

Why's football always so political? :lol:

[el Turco]

Why's football always so political? :lol:

Name me one thing that's not political. :D

Even the Eurovision Song Contest is all political now.

[Cihangir]

Why cant the Turks and Bosnians admit that Cihangir started this whole mess? He comes into the Greek forum and digs up an old thread and starts posting provocative comments about the Greek national team, comments based on irrationalism and not opinions. He says that Greece scored a goal at the 96th minute, because of the refs and UEFA, against Moldova, which is clearly stupid because proven footage shows that Greece scored at the 93rd minute. I also recall EVERY Turk and Bosnian here going crazy about that yet I showed them footage and proved them all wrong. So, UEFA did not "help" Greece as there.

He also says that Greece scored a dive against Malta yet NOBODY on Malta said it was a dive. Why didnt Malta make any kind of fuss if it was a dive? Also, about his comments that UEFA is "helping" Greece, where was UEFA to "help" Italy, the 1982 WC champ, qualify for the Euro 1984, of which they did not qualify??? Wouldnt they have wanted to avoid that kind of embarassment of which u say UEFA is trying to avoid with Greece??? Look who is "classifying" everything", something Cihangir said he hated.

Oh, about Cihangir's avatar, he says he "respects" Greece (even though his posts prove otherwise), yet that is nothing more than a mockery. Look at it for what it is. So, he is the villian in all this because he is the instigator and NONE of you who side with them want to accept that.

Lol I saw that it was on time and never said anything after that but on Malta nobody can argue since it's all there. That footage is the proof, shows that it's a crystal clear dive but it's football and it's common, what can you do?
But that doesn't change my opinion that UEFA uses double standard and I'm saying this only for UEFA, I'm not addressing Greece.

Plus what about my avatar man why is this such a big fuss? It's the movie, he is Gerard Butler, I find 300 funny, does that make me a Greek hater? I studied Greek mythology dude I don't hate Greece, I like Greece but as I said, you're mad at me because it's something that belongs to Greece. It's like being mad at an American for using Borat-like moves and accent as a Kazakh person. It's popular culture, isn't it?

[OCFP]

Name me one thing that's not political. :D

Even the Eurovision Song Contest is all political now.

The Eurovision is worst than anything else.

[Cihangir]

And it's not now, it has always been.