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Gavmundo
04-23-2007, 03:24 PM
Former Russian President Boris Yeltsin has died, the Kremlin says.
Mr Yeltsin was 76. The cause of death has not yet been announced. He had a history of heart trouble.

In 1991 he famously outmanoeuvred former Soviet President Mikhail Gorbachev and then triumphed against parliament hardliners in 1993.

Mr Yeltsin became Russia's first democratically elected head of state after Mr Gorbachev resigned as Soviet leader in December 1991.

He won international acclaim as a defender of democracy when in August 1991 he mounted a tank in Moscow, rallying the people against an attempt to overthrow Mr Gorbachev's era of glasnost and perestroika.

Mr Yeltsin had a quintuple heart bypass operation following his re-election in 1996.

Chechnya conflict

Mr Yeltsin ordered Russian tanks to fire on their own parliament in October 1993, when the building was occupied by hardline political opponents. But the BBC Moscow correspondent says Mr Yeltsin will be remembered as the man who brought democracy to Russia.

He presided over Russia's troubled mass privatisation in the early 1990s and also launched the large-scale military intervention in Chechnya in 1994.

He announced his retirement on the last day of the 20th Century, handing over to secret service chief Vladimir Putin.

Speaking in an interview with Russian television in 2000, Mr Yeltsin said that he saw the lives lost in Chechnya as the biggest responsibility he had to bear.

But he added that there had been no alternative and that Russia had to act against Chechen separatists.

"I cannot shift the blame for Chechnya, for the sorrow of numerous mothers and fathers," he said. "I made the decision, therefore I am responsible."

Bosnian Unit
04-25-2007, 02:30 AM
At least he was honest in ''some cases'' unlike todays leaders of most countries.

poutismalakas
04-25-2007, 03:36 AM
At least he was honest in ''some cases'' unlike todays leaders of most countries.
ALL politicans are LIERS, THIEVES, BACKBITTERS, AND MANIPULATERS!!!

manfan1523
04-25-2007, 05:02 AM
you would be surprised how honest russian leaders are. they dont lie they just dont say much at all. or comment on anything that might eventually indicate them as the maldoers.

shevafan
04-25-2007, 11:17 PM
he was somewhat better than putin. but still under his rule a shitload of money was stolen.
plus rem when he fired with tanks at the parliament =) that was the best lol no president would have the balls to do that if their government would be corrupt. of course its not a democratic thing to do but still it amused me =)

Centarfor9
04-26-2007, 01:15 AM
At least he was honest in ''some cases'' unlike todays leaders of most countries.
true


R.I.P. Yeltsin

Langbaard
04-26-2007, 11:28 AM
A very colorful leader for the Russians, Russia has undergone alot of changes under his leadership and alot of events happened (both good and bad).

I remember he was quite often drunk on many occasions, very funny man and definetely had a human face ( loose from political issues ofcourse). I remember when he had a speech with Clinton I had a few good laughs.

Rest in peace Boris Yeltsin, a great(good or bad from different view points) man in recent political history, mostly in Russia, but also in international relations he has played a big part.

ARBANITAI
04-26-2007, 11:30 AM
i think he was the first russian democratic leader.

Saraj Fanático
04-26-2007, 08:48 PM
Boris Yeltsin??

I truly don't give a flying crap about him. He is nothing but another terrorist. RIP..not. That idiot attacked Chechnya and slaughtered thousands. I will never forget that unlike some people.

NEVER FORGET CHECHNYA!
http://www.btinternet.com/~nlpWESSEX/images/Grozny.jpg
http://www.globalaging.org/armedconflict/countryreports/europefsu/FSU/chechn9.jpg
http://www.globevisions.com/images/books/StanleyGreene_grozny.jpg
http://www.lurchmag.com/grozny-ap.jpg

Freedom for Chechnya!
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/wideangle/shows/chechnya/images/dyk6.jpg

Saraj Fanático
04-26-2007, 08:59 PM
Also, I am not going to forget his support of slaughter in Kosovo. That man stood for war and trouble. Warned even NATO not to stop the killing and madness in Kosovo. Hell is his fate. And all the blood of the innocent he has killed is on his hands.

shevafan
04-26-2007, 09:02 PM
yeltsin was just a figure. kind of like a puppet. other more powerfull richer people made decisions and told him what to do, while he was just cashing in more and more cheques.

shevafan
04-26-2007, 09:05 PM
and yess i was really against chechnya. russia had no permission to enter chechnya. chechnya should have been a free country after the collapse of the soviet union and it doesnt matter how small it is. the people who lived there werent russians and did not feel russian at all.

Saraj Fanático
04-26-2007, 09:07 PM
Yeh he was something like a puppet of the Kremlin. But it doesn't change the fact that he has killed thousands. If he deserves condolences then I guess Osama, Bush, Putin, and Kim Jong-il will too one day.

Milos_
05-01-2007, 11:00 PM
Damn your bias really shows...

Yeltsin gave the OK for Nato to illegaly bomb Serbia so I dont know what your talking about,he sold us out.

He attacked a part of his own country?wow thats intense:rolleyes:.Those terrorist pieces of crap deserve to be slaughtered(before they get another chance to kill more Russian school children:yuck:)

shevafan
05-02-2007, 02:29 AM
yeah well if russia didnt want that incident at the school to happen then should not have attacked chechnya.

WTF is BIAS???
thats such defensive word for anything in our society.

anyone can say ur so bias... what do u mean bias??? u cant deny the truth!!

Centarfor9
05-02-2007, 03:28 PM
just to point out the fact that before the school attack took place, Russians attacked Chechnya and murdered children, women and everything that moved in Chechnya

the guy who is the leader of Chechnya was put in place by Russians and he oppresses people and does everything Russians tell him to do

Saraj Fanático
05-02-2007, 10:56 PM
Damn your bias really shows...

Yeltsin gave the OK for Nato to illegaly bomb Serbia so I dont know what your talking about,he sold us out.

He attacked a part of his own country?wow thats intense:rolleyes:.Those terrorist pieces of crap deserve to be slaughtered(before they get another chance to kill more Russian school children:yuck:)


:lol: Okay, let me start

First off, Yeltsin supported Serbia and threatened to go to war with the US and its Nato nations if they dared to go into Kosovo. From Wikipedia:

"During the 1999 Kosovo war, Yeltsin strongly opposed the NATO military campaign against Yugoslavia, and warned of possible Russian intervention if NATO deployed ground troops to Kosovo. In televised comments he stated: "I told NATO, the Americans, the Germans: Don't push us toward military action. Otherwise there will be a European war for sure and possibly world war."

Next, quit saying that Bulls*** about how Serbia was bombed illegally when they clearly weren't. How many times did Nato have to warn you to stay out of Kosovo? And what did you do? Milosevic thought he was some big shot and stand up against Europe like he was Hitler. Milosevic bombarded and attacked Kosovo illegally and what goes around comes around. Serbia deserved to get spanked and learn their lesson. Why are you even complaining? It wasn't even nothing compared to what Croatia, BiH, Slovenia, and Kosovo had to deal with. So live with it just like we had to.

And finally. If Chechnya is a part of Russia then I guess Ukraine, Belarus, Lithuania, and those other nations are too. Now let me tell you about that School attack. This is what I love about you guys. You always ignore what Chechen's had to deal with for years and years and everyday and when the Chechen's come back to bite your beloved Russians in the ass the world starts talking. Don't make me post pictures of Chechen's burying young children of the ages of 5. For years Russia had killed Young Chechens and humiliated them. For years there have been worser Beslans happening in Chechnya then Russians can ever imagine. What did Europe ever do? Did anyone ever open their mouths? Did anyone ever put it on the headlines of CNN or Fox? Or how about those Serbian Propaganda sites you visit? The world didn't care. Now tell me. What makes you sure that Chechen's won't stop caring about the life's of Russian children when they have to bury their dead every single month, week and day.


The attack on Beslan was an test for Russia and Europe. It was everything that Russia had been doing to Chechen's for the last decade under Russian terrorism brought to that School on that day. How did Russians act? How did the world respond? Everyone started caring and crying. Did they like the feeling? How was it seeing your children dead in the streets after the siege? That's what those Militants wanted to ask the Russians on that day. Since Russians never cared and continued spitting on the graves of so many innocent Men, Women and Children the Chechen's decided to execute an 'Eye for an Eye' tactic. And what Beslan is, represents the horror of Russian Terrorism in Chechnya. Also, most of the deaths of the kids in Beslan were by Russian tank shells. Read about it. The Militants didn't even set off any large scale bombs. However the idiotic Russian Hostage Squads decided to bombard the building with kids in it. They are more responsible for the deaths of the kids. The suspects of Beslan are guilty but they are not to be blamed. Russia's Terrorist campaign is.


PS: The Miltants in Chechnya are heros and proud fighters. I am talking about the defenders of Chechnya, not some who have been pushed to the edge by Russian Terrorism such as the men who had committed the Belsan siege. The resistance will continue until every Russian Terrorist scum who decides to help his nation with the spilling of blood of innocents is eliminated or pushed back.

ARBANITAI
05-03-2007, 12:39 PM
:lol: Okay, let me start

First off, Yeltsin supported Serbia and threatened to go to war with the US and its Nato nations if they dared to go into Kosovo. From Wikipedia:

"During the 1999 Kosovo war, Yeltsin strongly opposed the NATO military campaign against Yugoslavia, and warned of possible Russian intervention if NATO deployed ground troops to Kosovo. In televised comments he stated: "I told NATO, the Americans, the Germans: Don't push us toward military action. Otherwise there will be a European war for sure and possibly world war."



He made him self so funny by saying that :D I remember....

Mak
05-03-2007, 05:56 PM
Thank God Putin is in charge now :thumbsup:

shevafan
05-03-2007, 07:05 PM
Thank God Putin is in charge now :thumbsup:
lol putin is like 2 times worse than yeltsin. when yeltsin was in charge, the people atleast lived somewhat descently. when putin came in, the country entered into crazy poverty. their population decline is like -150k a year.

Mak
05-03-2007, 09:03 PM
lol putin is like 2 times worse than yeltsin. when yeltsin was in charge, the people atleast lived somewhat descently. when putin came in, the country entered into crazy poverty. their population decline is like -150k a year.

I supposed that's why Putin has an 80% approval rating compared to Yeltsin's 5%... I guess Russian people must enjoy being poor then. :lol:

Centarfor9
05-03-2007, 09:11 PM
^ i also heard that he is the most popular politician in Russia just like Saddam Husein was in Iraq

Mak
05-03-2007, 09:47 PM
yeah well if russia didnt want that incident at the school to happen then should not have attacked chechnya.

WTF is BIAS???
thats such defensive word for anything in our society.

anyone can say ur so bias... what do u mean bias??? u cant deny the truth!!

You're sick. There is no way you can justify something like that. Clearly you must be one of those anti-Russian Catholic Ukrainian schoolboys who don't know shit.

Saraj Fanático
05-03-2007, 11:10 PM
Putin is a Nazi. Russia is just a nation filled with the wrong politicians.

Mak
05-03-2007, 11:25 PM
Putin is a Nazi. Russia is just a nation filled with the wrong politicians.

Ironic when it was the Bosnian Muslims who were close allies with Hitler and the Nazis. You're the last one who should be calling people Nazis. :rolleyes:

Anyway, if it was my choice, you'd be in Guantanamo Bay.

Centarfor9
05-03-2007, 11:55 PM
Ironic when it was the Bosnian Muslims who were close allies with Hitler and the Nazis. You're the last one who should be calling people Nazis. :rolleyes:
muslims were mainly allied with partisans ;)

in fact we were Partisans

Chetniks were allied with fashists

they use nazi three finger solute
Anyway, if it was my choice, you'd be in Guantanamo Bay.
if it was "your" choice all bosnian muslims would be erased :lol:

come on just because they are muslims do you need to "erase" them

Saraj Fanático
05-04-2007, 12:09 AM
Ironic when it was the Bosnian Muslims who were close allies with Hitler and the Nazis. You're the last one who should be calling people Nazis. :rolleyes:

Anyway, if it was my choice, you'd be in Guantanamo Bay.


:lol: Oh gee am sorry. First off, there wasn't even a big amount of Bosnian Muslims with the Nazis. Also, Croats had a higher number then us so who the hell are you trying to play here?


:lol: :lol: Guantanamo Bay!?? Classic! :lol: :lol: Why? For sharing my opinion? So much for Freedom of Speech huh?

If it was up to me, I'd show provide you with a atlas and show you that Republika Smrdska is in BiH, not Serbia. :D :lol: :lol: Then I would send you back to school from 4th grade and up.

shevafan
05-04-2007, 04:21 AM
You're sick. There is no way you can justify something like that. Clearly you must be one of those anti-Russian Catholic Ukrainian schoolboys who don't know shit.
umm ok. if your stupid mind doent understand it, ill simplify it for you. u know why russia is so big??? because they conquored a shit load. basically the whole part of russia in asia isnt russian. its all made up of territories that are made up of certain ethnical groups. after the soviet union broke up russia technically possesed them. but then a country like chechnya came up and said: wait a minute, all the other countries has split apart from the soviet union, why dont we get top split up? we have our own chechnyan ethnicity and dont want to be considered russian. but you see if the russian government would let the chechnyans go free then the other ethical groups would start wanting to split up too. and these territories contain a lot of oil. oil which russia doesnt want to give up.
so bacause of this a war breaks apart. chechnyans who in population are very small cant fight army to army so they have to fight by gorrilla warfare. and in fact they have to show their reasons by doing such horrific things like the shooting in the school. ofcourse i dont approve terrorism.
putin has cleaned the russian budget dry. if the russian people approve him so much then u can call them stupid for this.

and by the way your comment about me beeing "a ukrainian catholic schoolboy" is so stupid. for everything that russia did to my country i could never forget. the millions that have suffered and have been killed i could never forget. and the thing that i dont like even more is that they have never apologized what they did. never. this is where i loose respect to a nation.

Saraj Fanático
05-06-2007, 05:05 PM
^ Don't expect apologies from Russia. They are a nation (Government, not the people) that loves war. They have fun killing people and massacring them but when it comes back to bite them in the ass they complain. As the saying goes 'Don't touch S*** and your hands won't smell' and Russia should be thought that.