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Svyat
12-30-2006, 10:06 PM
Who do you think is the best Ukrainian Prospects
1 Milevski
2 Chugrynskyy
3 Shust
4 Rybka
5 Pyatov
6 Mihkalik
7 Yatsenko
8 Romanchuk
9 Fomin
10 Feschuk
11 Yaroshenko
12 Mandzuik
13 Yarmolenko
14 Aliev
15 Polyanski
16 Oliynik
17 Kravchenko
18 Yakovenko
19 Nepogodov
20 Pukanic
|Tryzub|
12-30-2006, 11:49 PM
Since I'm bored, I'll comment on as many as those players as I can..
1 Milevski - When hes at his best, he truly is our next 'big thing'. Hes so strong on the ball, good in the air, tall, big...Good control....But hes too cocky.. He has to relax on that a lil...
2 Chugrynskyy - Good defender...He will be our defender of the future I'm sure... Hes amazing...
3 Shust - Like all young GK's he has moments of 'uncertainty' but overall, what can I say? Hes our next #1 GK, and could end up being the best Ukr GK of all time.
4 Rybka - A bit worse then Shust, I tihnk he'll be DK's next GK but I donno if he'll be Ukraine's #1. Maybe hell be like Kernozenko ; Solid but never really a #1 for UA. I lost alot of respect for him after that incident a few motnhs ago though...
5 Pyatov - About equal with Rybka, but its interesting SD got him...When they already have Shust....
6 Mihkalik - Our next big midfeilder... Great shot, control, speed...
7 Yatsenko - Solid defender, has great potential..
8 Romanchuk - I donno much about him, I've just heard alot about him... And from what I hear, now defense seems to be our weak point, but with Yatsenko, Chyhrynsky, Romanchuk, and Rusol we can have a very strong defense in the future..
9 Fomin - Saw him alot in the junior WC and he looked 'ok'....Id take Milevsky over him though..
10 Feschuk - Last year he was great, but he seemed to of gotten worse :(
11 Yaroshenko - I don't know enough to comment.
12 Mandzuik - Another solid defender we have... Hes been great everytime Ive seen him, except in the Real Madrid game for parts...
13 Yarmolenko - I pray to GOd he really is the "next sheva".
14 Aliev - U remember a few years ago, everyone talked about him? He was supposed to be our big star... It was him and Milevsky...But Aliev was even more cocky then Milevsky... ALwyas drinking... Clubbing.. etc.. You can do that sometimes but he over did it... DK loaned him out, and now, they're going to sell him... Im dissapointed w/ him :(
15 Polyanski - Can't comment..
16 Oliynik - Can't comment..
17 Kravchenko - From what I hear, he'll be good.
18 Yakovenko - Can't comment..
19 Nepogodov - Can't comment..
20 Pukanic - Do you mean Pukanych? Just checking, Im not trying to correct you or anything cos u can spell it both ways. Anyways, I heard alot about him, but I haven't seen anything extraordinary.
One person you forgot is Ihor Xudobjak... You're from Lvivska oblast, you must be a Karpaty fan.. How could you forget him? lol jk... Hes amazing though...Our best up and coming midfeild IMHO.
Overall, we have alot of young prospects and seem to be producing the type of players we did during Soviet times.. Ukraine is a football country, all of us Ukies already know that, and we're gaining more respect... But we lost a few generations when USSR split up, everything fell apart...I just hope alot of these guys can develop..Because if they do.. We can become one of Europes best teams like the USSR was...
shevafan
12-31-2006, 05:24 AM
Since I'm bored, I'll comment on as many as those players as I can..
1 Milevski - When hes at his best, he truly is our next 'big thing'. Hes so strong on the ball, good in the air, tall, big...Good control....But hes too cocky.. He has to relax on that a lil...
2 Chugrynskyy - Good defender...He will be our defender of the future I'm sure... Hes amazing...
3 Shust - Like all young GK's he has moments of 'uncertainty' but overall, what can I say? Hes our next #1 GK, and could end up being the best Ukr GK of all time.
4 Rybka - A bit worse then Shust, I tihnk he'll be DK's next GK but I donno if he'll be Ukraine's #1. Maybe hell be like Kernozenko ; Solid but never really a #1 for UA. I lost alot of respect for him after that incident a few motnhs ago though...
5 Pyatov - About equal with Rybka, but its interesting SD got him...When they already have Shust....
6 Mihkalik - Our next big midfeilder... Great shot, control, speed...
7 Yatsenko - Solid defender, has great potential..
8 Romanchuk - I donno much about him, I've just heard alot about him... And from what I hear, now defense seems to be our weak point, but with Yatsenko, Chyhrynsky, Romanchuk, and Rusol we can have a very strong defense in the future..
9 Fomin - Saw him alot in the junior WC and he looked 'ok'....Id take Milevsky over him though..
10 Feschuk - Last year he was great, but he seemed to of gotten worse :(
11 Yaroshenko - I don't know enough to comment.
12 Mandzuik - Another solid defender we have... Hes been great everytime Ive seen him, except in the Real Madrid game for parts...
13 Yarmolenko - I pray to GOd he really is the "next sheva".
14 Aliev - U remember a few years ago, everyone talked about him? He was supposed to be our big star... It was him and Milevsky...But Aliev was even more cocky then Milevsky... ALwyas drinking... Clubbing.. etc.. You can do that sometimes but he over did it... DK loaned him out, and now, they're going to sell him... Im dissapointed w/ him :(
15 Polyanski - Can't comment..
16 Oliynik - Can't comment..
17 Kravchenko - From what I hear, he'll be good.
18 Yakovenko - Can't comment..
19 Nepogodov - Can't comment..
20 Pukanic - Do you mean Pukanych? Just checking, Im not trying to correct you or anything cos u can spell it both ways. Anyways, I heard alot about him, but I haven't seen anything extraordinary.
One person you forgot is Ihor Xudobjak... You're from Lvivska oblast, you must be a Karpaty fan.. How could you forget him? lol jk... Hes amazing though...Our best up and coming midfeild IMHO.
Overall, we have alot of young prospects and seem to be producing the type of players we did during Soviet times.. Ukraine is a football country, all of us Ukies already know that, and we're gaining more respect... But we lost a few generations when USSR split up, everything fell apart...I just hope alot of these guys can develop..Because if they do.. We can become one of Europes best teams like the USSR was...
Tryzub, dont i have you on my msn?:lol:
Anyways some thinks i can comment on are: I think u underestimated fomin a little bit. He is very good, I think that he will be a great striker in the future. I also hope Yarmolenko is the next sheva, but he still is very young. They thought the same about Voronin before and hes not anythink too special. Im not sure about Mikhlik but we will see. I also thionk that Rybka and Shust are about the same. I think Rybka just got really pissed cause he goes out to play against Real M he gets knocked out, then some UPL game gets knocked out again. Some people just want to kill the ones that keep knocking them out:lol: . Hes still young:lol: . Hodobyak is great. All i have to say.Anyways thats it.
|Tryzub|
12-31-2006, 05:27 AM
Tryzub, dont i have you on my msn?:lol:
Anyways some thinks i can comment on are: I think u underestimated fomin a little bit. He is very good, I think that he will be a great striker in the future. I also hope Yarmolenko is the next sheva, but he still is very young. They thought the same about Voronin before and hes not anythink too special. Im not sure about Mikhlik but we will see. I also thionk that Rybka and Shust are about the same. I think Rybka just got really pissed cause he goes out to play against Real M he gets knocked out, then some UPL game gets knocked out again. Some people just want to kill the ones that keep knocking them out:lol: . Hes still young:lol: . Hodobyak is great. All i have to say.Anyways thats it.
:lol: I think you do..
I tried supporting Karpaty since I have Lviv blood in me... But I just couldn't leave DK, sorry brate. The main thing is we cheer for Ukraine, though :tea:
shevafan
12-31-2006, 05:29 AM
:lol: I think you do..
I tried supporting Karpaty since I have Lviv blood in me... But I just couldn't leave DK, sorry brate. The main thing is we cheer for Ukraine, though :tea:
lol arent you dieheart Fc Karpaty fan?:lol:
|Tryzub|
12-31-2006, 05:33 AM
lol arent you dieheart Fc Karpaty fan?:lol:
lol no man, I've always been a Dynamo Kyiv fan, I just tried to support Karpaty becuase of my connections to Lviv,, But I just couldn't do it..
shevafan
12-31-2006, 05:36 AM
lol no man, I've always been a Dynamo Kyiv fan, I just tried to support Karpaty becuase of my connections to Lviv,, But I just couldn't do it..
Ive always been on the edge with DK cause Surkis owns it.
|Tryzub|
12-31-2006, 05:39 AM
Ive always been on the edge with DK cause Surkis owns it.
Alot of DK fans hate Surkis as well...Both of them.. I think its best for Ukr football if they leave.
shevafan
12-31-2006, 05:42 AM
Alot of DK fans hate Surkis as well...Both of them.. I think its best for Ukr football if they leave.
he buys games. he did it before when dynamo really needed a win.
|Tryzub|
12-31-2006, 05:42 AM
Speaking of Lviv, I have 4 bottles of Lvivske in my fridge 'waiting' for New Years eve... :lol:
shevafan
12-31-2006, 05:43 AM
Speaking of Lviv, I have 4 bottles of Lvivske in my fridge 'waiting' for New Years eve... :lol:
6-pack for me =):lol:
Svyat
12-31-2006, 05:27 PM
to tryzub i already consider hudobiak a star he is not a prospect anymore for me
Svyat
12-31-2006, 09:40 PM
Nepogodov plays in Marsellie France his a golie
Yakovenko son of former Dynamo kiev player plays in Genk Belgium
shevafan
12-31-2006, 10:14 PM
Nepogodov plays in Marsellie France his a golie
Yakovenko son of former Dynamo kiev player plays in Genk Belgium
ive never heard of nepogodov in france. tell me a source where it states that.
|Tryzub|
01-01-2007, 12:50 AM
ive never heard of nepogodov in france. tell me a source where it states that.
Ohhhhhhhhh he's a really tall GK I think... Yea... I remember him now.. Nepohodov..
Here, a list of the squad... Just look under Goalkeepers for Nepohodov..
http://ffu.org.ua/rteams.php?team_id=25&tournament_id=378
Ukrainian-Gino
01-01-2007, 12:59 AM
Tryzub u homo u stole my sig from untz anyways milevski is a good player. If any onf u didnt know Ukraine under-21 team came 2nd in the euro cup they lost to Netherlands
|Tryzub|
01-01-2007, 01:06 AM
lol I'll never forget that...
And you know whats really weird about it...
EURO 1988, USSR (Almost a 100% Ukrainian team)...First game vs Holland - They won...In the finals, vs Holland, they lose.
U21 EURO 2006, Ukraine... First game vs Holland, they win. In the finals, vs Holland, they lose.
:|
PS - I didn't take anyone's sig lol
Ukrainian-Gino
01-01-2007, 01:10 AM
lol I'll never forget that...
And you know whats really weird about it...
EURO 1988, USSR (Almost a 100% Ukrainian team)...First game vs Holland - They won...In the finals, vs Holland, they lose.
U21 EURO 2006, Ukraine... First game vs Holland, they win. In the finals, vs Holland, they lose.
:|
PS - I didn't take anyone's sig lol
yea back then 9 of the starting players were from ukraine on USSR. Our young guns are amazing. imagine them in the future.
shevafan
01-01-2007, 07:05 PM
lol I'll never forget that...
And you know whats really weird about it...
EURO 1988, USSR (Almost a 100% Ukrainian team)...First game vs Holland - They won...In the finals, vs Holland, they lose.
U21 EURO 2006, Ukraine... First game vs Holland, they win. In the finals, vs Holland, they lose.
:|
PS - I didn't take anyone's sig lol
I was hoping history wouldnt repeat itself in that tournament but it did.
Svyat
01-01-2007, 09:44 PM
unfortunetly all we can do is just imagine. our young stars don't get any playing time that really really sucks.out of our U-21 youth only Milevskyy,Chugrynskyy and Pyatov are getting enough playing time.(i don't count players who belong to DK and Shakhtar but play in other teams)
we should trust more our youth.they maybe not as good as more experiance players but they can do it in a future.by sending them to other teams they just going to be lost up there.
|Tryzub|
01-01-2007, 10:07 PM
Yea...
Well, Surkis said he is now going to use Ukrainian talent, and only buy foreigners if there real quality, like Correa (I agree with him). But Surkis always lies, so we'll see...
Watch, even though he promised big changes this winter, I can see him buying some 20 something year old midfeild from Brazil...And loaning back out all the youth...
Svyat
01-02-2007, 01:03 AM
did you just said Korrea is good quality foreigner and do you really believe everything Surkis says.
I agree Korrea was good at first but after 4 month he stinks.to be consider good you have to be good for longer.i don't think surkis going to use his talent.which is sucks DK was much better when team was made out of Ukrainians and former USSR players like in 1997/1998 and 1998/1999 Champions league.they could beat anyone and team was 80% of Ukies and all foreigners were former Soviet republics.
|Tryzub|
01-02-2007, 02:33 AM
"did you just said Korrea is good quality foreigner and do you really believe everything Surkis says."
No, I don't believe everything Surkis says... See in my post, where I wrote "But Surkis always lies, so we'll see..."..lol...
Correa is amazing from what I saw, he's just got a bit worse because he got hurt and hasn't played in a long time.
I want a more Ukrainian team - But I think 7/8 out of the starting 11 being Ukrainians would be good enough for me, I don't need a 100% Ukie team. One foreigner I really like is Shatskikh though.. People have different opinions on him.. They either love him or hate him..
Svyat
01-02-2007, 03:54 AM
Everyone hate Shastkikh because he misses a lot of perfect moments to score.He misses like 4 to 5 100% scoring chances per game.On football.ua averyone talks so much shit about him that seems like he isn't wanted but sometimes he has great games. against Fenerhbache and Real. DK should sell him get some money till he isn't too old and buy some new prospect.
shevafan
01-02-2007, 04:03 AM
Everyone hate Shastkikh because he misses a lot of perfect moments to score.He misses like 4 to 5 100% scoring chances per game.On football.ua averyone talks so much shit about him that seems like he isn't wanted but sometimes he has great games. against Fenerhbache and Real. DK should sell him get some money till he isn't too old and buy some new prospect.
rem the first RM match when he had an empty net and he didnt score lol. then afterwords DK got a lucky rebound and Milevsky scored. man i just hate shastkikh. i read that hes like the team "leader" and shit, not the captain ofcourse but like in the team. I mean who the hell wants an uzbekistani a team leader in uki club. he has to go. just has to. i dont know why they are keeping him.
|Tryzub|
01-02-2007, 04:49 AM
Nooo man, Shatskikh owns. He's my favourite DK player, I'll say even of all time (Since I never saw any of the legends like Bloxin, Belanov, Zavarov, Biba, etc, with my own eyes). He misses alot ; But why? Becuase he always gets himself in a position to score. Also, he says even though he's an Uzbek, as he said 'Its only in passport'. And after he retires, he's going to live in Kyiv for the rest of his life. He's not really an Uzbek in nationality either, he was just born there and played for them. I think he's actually a Russian...
"On football.ua averyone talks so much shit about him"
- I know LOL, thats why I stopped reading alot of the comments.
shevafan
01-02-2007, 04:56 AM
Nooo man, Shatskikh owns. He's my favourite DK player, I'll say even of all time (Since I never saw any of the legends like Bloxin, Belanov, Zavarov, Biba, etc, with my own eyes). He misses alot ; But why? Becuase he always gets himself in a position to score. Also, he says even though he's an Uzbek, as he said 'Its only in passport'. And after he retires, he's going to live in Kyiv for the rest of his life. He's not really an Uzbek in nationality either, he was just born there and played for them. I think he's actually a Russian...
"On football.ua averyone talks so much shit about him"
- I know LOL, thats why I stopped reading alot of the comments.
well u should see blokhin, zavarov, shevchenko, rebrov and others how they played before. tryzub go on msn ill send u some classic dynamo goals. from shevchenko and rebrov, and give u some links.
|Tryzub|
01-02-2007, 05:00 AM
I've seen them all, lol... But I mean, 30 years from now, Shatskikh's goals can look great too.
Don't cut up our Shatskikh, just worry about Karpaty's Batista =). lol
shevafan
01-02-2007, 05:03 AM
I've seen them all, lol... But I mean, 30 years from now, Shatskikh's goals can look great too.
Don't cut up our Shatskikh, just worry about Karpaty's Batista =). lol
no man some of the goals before very much more greater than shastkikh's. most of his are just easy open netters, and he even misses those:lol:
|Tryzub|
01-02-2007, 05:07 AM
no man some of the goals before very much more greater than shastkikh's. most of his are just easy open netters, and he even misses those:lol:
:ban:
shevafan
01-02-2007, 05:08 AM
batista man hes gonna be really good after the season continues.
shevafan
01-02-2007, 05:09 AM
:ban:
lol
Svyat
01-02-2007, 06:09 PM
Shakhtar has it's own Shatskikh called Brandao:sad:
shevafan
01-02-2007, 06:13 PM
Shakhtar has it's own Shatskikh called Brandao:sad:
i know. i wish elano would play instead of him. i dont know why lucescu doesnt let him play.
Svyat
01-02-2007, 06:28 PM
I think Elano midfielder and Brandao forward.Belik is much better than Brandao.
Elano didn't play because he was injured and than lost his plays because Jadson was better
|Tryzub|
01-02-2007, 07:00 PM
Shatskikh > All strikers in Ukraine, maybe even in East Europe.
shevafan
01-02-2007, 07:11 PM
Shatskikh > All strikers in Ukraine, maybe even in East Europe.
yeah ok:lol:
|Tryzub|
01-02-2007, 10:59 PM
yeah ok:lol:
:redeyes:
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