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Zek

11-29-2006, 04:56 AM

holicman

11-29-2006, 05:24 AM

You might be able to go and see a game in the championship, it can be pretty difficult to get a ticket to a premiership match.

The pubs would be pretty lively id expect and there are many different sights to see in London. :)

Ive been there before about 6 years ago, and I enjoyed it, though it was rather cold and the first time I had ever seen snow in real life.

Zek

11-29-2006, 07:47 AM

yep, I am thinking of championship game but still hoping that maybe there are tickets for Totenham or West Ham or even Fulham games? need insiders info ;) hope G can advise he lives somewhere around there... Can you imagine there is Chelsea - Arsenal game at that time, but I was told here that tickets may cost up to 150USD :(

yep, London is a great place with lots of sight seeing - this trip is a bit busy but I'll try to go to British Museum and Contemporary Arts museum - the only large museums have not been in yet, and yes the Fabrique disco near Soho is my dream place!

British pubs, Oxford street and Soho do not count :silly: - that's normal evening spent plan :lol:

This is going to be my fifth London trip :silly:

GiorgioII

11-29-2006, 07:47 PM

Finally it happened, I am on my first business trip of the year Dec 10-17. Surely too late, but hey it's Christmas time and should be fun ;)

For the first time will stay in a decent Mariott next to London Eye and have a business class flight :lol: I'm really happy!

Any ideas what to do there in the evenings? Wanted to go for a football game, but not sure if there is any premiership game with free tickets?

cheers

Hmm what can I recommend? You probably know just as much as me to be honest, I don't get to go into central London that often. Tickets to Premiership matches can usually be obtained on the day of the match for sometimes as little as 15 pounds, but it can be difficult.

There might be some good gigs on at that time if you're a music fan? Lots of bands are touring the UK during the December month.

Suggestion 1.Trafalgar Square Christmas Carols
Trafalgar Square, WC2N 5DS
Gather together with the rest of London in Trafalgar Square around the capital’s most prominent Christmas tree (an annual gift from the people of Oslo) to sing a tuneful pack of nostalgic, festive standards.

Head right to the centre of modern London, where Whitehall and the Strand meet the West End. As Nelson and his lions tower overhead, various red-cheeked choirs will sing their hearts out between 17:00 and 21:00 everyday. Last year over 50 groups of singers got the crowds going.

Trafalgar Square is quintessential London and carol singing essential Christmas, why not combine the two?

Suggestion 2. In the Face of History: European Photographers in the 20th Century
Barbican Centre, Silk Street, EC2 Map
The 'Age of Extremes' - the period between the First World War and the fall of the Iron Curtain, forms the basis for this ambitious exhibition, charting the history of the 20th century through the work of some of its finest photographers.

War and genocide loom largest in the show. André Kertész carried his camera to the front as a conscript in the Austro-Hungarian army; Henryk Ross' images of the Lodz ghetto were crucial evidence in the trial of Adolph Eichmann. Other photographers documented the social upheavals of the period: transsexuals in post-war Paris, the counter-culture in 1960s Amsterdam, recession in North-East England during the Thatcher years.

A single collection could never provide a serious analysis of such a vast historical canvas, but this remains an unmissable selection of images from 100 years during which the world changed beyond recognition.

Find out about hotels near 'In the Face of History: European Photographers in the 20th Century'

Name: In the Face of History: European Photographers in the 20th Century
Address: Barbican Gallery
Silk Street
Dates: Running from Fri 13th Oct 2006 until Sun 28th Jan 2007
Info: Showing for 60 more days!
Times: Daily 11:00 - 20:00 (Tue and Thu 11:00 - 18:00)
Pricing: £8 on the door | £6 advance
Phone: 0845 121 6878

Travel: Barbican Underground [MAP] 4 minute walk to the West

Moorgate Underground [MAP] 5 minute walk to the South East

Moorgate Railway Station [MAP] 5 minute walk to the South East

St. Paul's Underground [MAP] 9 minute walk to the South West

Farringdon Rail [MAP] 11 minute walk to the West

Parking: Barbican Centre 22 NCP [MAP] About a one minute walk away

Barbican Centre 33 NCP [MAP] About a one minute walk away

Barbican Centre 4/55 NCP [MAP] About a one minute walk away

Smithfield Central Market NCP [MAP] 7 minute walk to the South West

Finsbury Square NCP [MAP] 7 minute walk to the North East

Suggestion 3. Rock 'n' Roll
Duke of York’s, St Martin's Lane, WC2 Map
On study leave in Cambridge, Czech academic Jan (Rufus Sewell) is delighted by all things English, and especially the rebellious new music of the 1960s. The beginning of the Prague Spring festival lures him back to his homeland but, when the Soviet tanks roll in, his record collection is smashed by the secret police and his favourite band - the bizarrely-named, but non-fictional, Plastic People of the Universe - are arrested for their "socially negative" music. This pushes him into a lifetime of rebellion and radicalism which reaches its zenith with the Velvet Revolution and the return of rock 'n' roll to Czechoslovakia.

After his uncharacteristically dull trilogy, 'The Coast of Utopia', Tom Stoppard's new play sees him back to his best with this brilliant drama about the power of music to change hearts and minds. It is filled with classic tunes from the likes of The Stones and Pink Floyd, and with the fizzing, joke-packed dialogue for which Stoppard is most famous.

This Royal Court Theatre production is helped by a great cast, with a dashing Rufus Sewell in the lead, Sinead Cusack playing both a mother and her ex-hippie daughter, and Brian Cox in his most bruising form as an English communist.

This is a fantastic return to form for one of our best playwrights.

NOTE: David Calder replaces Brian Cox from 26 Sep 2006
NOTE: Emma Fielding replaces Sinead Cusack and Dominic West replaces Rufus Sewell from 14 November 2006

Find out about hotels near 'Rock 'n' Roll'

Name: Rock 'n' Roll
Address: Duke of York's Theatre
St Martin's Lane
Dates: Running from Sat 22nd Jul 2006 until Sun 25th Feb 2007
Info: Showing for 88 more days!
Times: Tue to Sat 19:30 | Tue matinee 15:00, Sat Matinee 16:00 | No performances 6-13 November
Pricing: £12.50 - £36
Phone: 0870 060 6623

Travel: Leicester Square Underground [MAP] 2 minute walk to the North West

Charing Cross Underground [MAP] 4 minute walk to the South East

Covent Garden Underground [MAP] 6 minute walk to the North East

Charing Cross Railway Station [MAP] 6 minute walk to the South East

Piccadilly Circus Underground [MAP] 6 minute walk to the South West Parking: St Martins Lane Hotel NCP [MAP] 1 minute walk to the East

China Town Masterpark [MAP] 4 minute walk to the North West

Leicester Square Masterpark [MAP] 4 minute walk to the West

Swiss Centre NCP [MAP] 4 minute walk to the North West

Upper St Martins Lane NCP [MAP] 4 minute walk to the North

Suggestion 4. Billy Elliot
Victoria Palace Theatre, Victoria Street, SW1 Map
When Elton John attended the first screening of Billy Elliot at the Cannes Film Festival, he was reduced to tears. Five years later, the low-budget Britflick that became a massive international hit transfers to the West End with songs by Sir Elton.

With its large cast of children drawn from three special 'Billy Elliot Academies' in the north of England, the standard of acting is very high. The same tensions drive the musical that drove the film, with Billy's successes measured against the failure of the miner's strike and the end of the traditional way of life for his family and friends. It's even more affecting on the stage, driven by some magnificent Elton John songs and Peter Darling's thrilling choreography. Like a modern West Side Story, the song-and-dance numbers are intimate parts of the plot, expressing character's inner feelings in a way that dialogue never could.

A triumphant tale of personal achievement, a moving social study, and a celebration of the sheer joy of dance, this is a rare combination of intelligence and pure pleasure. The Daily Telegraph has declared this the greatest British musical of all time, and they may well be right.
Book Tickets
Tickets: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 Performance: Mon, 4th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Tue, 5th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Wed, 6th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Thu, 7th Dec 2006, 14:30hrs Mon, 11th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Tue, 12th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Wed, 13th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Thu, 14th Dec 2006, 14:30hrs Thu, 14th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Mon, 18th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Tue, 19th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Wed, 20th Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Thu, 21st Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Fri, 22nd Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Sat, 23rd Dec 2006, 19:30hrs Mon, 1st Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 2nd Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 3rd Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 4th Jan 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 4th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 5th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 8th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 9th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 10th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 11th Jan 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 11th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 12th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 15th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 16th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 17th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 18th Jan 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 18th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 19th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 22nd Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 23rd Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 24th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 25th Jan 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 25th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 26th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 27th Jan 2007, 14:30hrs Mon, 29th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 30th Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 31st Jan 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 1st Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 1st Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 2nd Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 3rd Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Mon, 5th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 6th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 7th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 8th Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 8th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 9th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 12th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 13th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 15th Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 15th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 16th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 17th Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Mon, 19th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 20th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 21st Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 22nd Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 22nd Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 23rd Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 24th Feb 2007, 14:30hrs Sat, 24th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 26th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 27th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 28th Feb 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 1st Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 2nd Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 3rd Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Sat, 3rd Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 5th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 6th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 7th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 8th Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 8th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 9th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 10th Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Sat, 10th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 12th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 13th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 14th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 15th Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 15th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 16th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 17th Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Sat, 17th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 19th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 20th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 21st Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 22nd Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 22nd Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 23rd Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Sat, 24th Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Sat, 24th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 26th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Tue, 27th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Wed, 28th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Thu, 29th Mar 2007, 14:30hrs Thu, 29th Mar 2007, 19:30hrs Fri, 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2007, 19:30hrs Mon, 8th Oct 2007, 19:30hrs

Find out about hotels near 'Billy Elliot'

Name: Billy Elliot
Address: Victoria Palace Theatre
Victoria Street
Dates: Running from Tue 22nd Mar 2005 until Sat 31st Mar 2007
Info: Showing for 122 more days!
Times: Mon-Sat 19:30 | Matinees Thur and Sat 14:30
Duration: 3hrs
Pricing: £17.50-£55
Phone: 020 7834 1317

Travel: Victoria Station Underground [MAP] 2 minute walk to the South West

Victoria Railway Station [MAP] 3 minute walk to the South West

St James's Park Underground [MAP] 9 minute walk to the North East

St. James Park Underground [MAP] 10 minute walk to the North East

Hyde Park Corner Underground [MAP] 14 minute walk to the North West

Parking: Semley Place NCP [MAP] 11 minute walk to the South West

Pimlico Masterpark [MAP] 12 minute walk to the South West

Knightsbridge Masterpark [MAP] 15 minute walk to the North West

Arlington House NCP [MAP] 15 minute walk to the North

Carrington Street NCP [MAP] 15 minute walk to the North West

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I'm sorry if that is a lot information to take in, but I would recommend all of these events. They all strike me as being things I would like to do at some point. Hope it has helped you out in some way.

Laury84

11-29-2006, 08:45 PM

Do u live in London Gorgio?

Ryan27

11-29-2006, 10:41 PM

I'm quite jealous of you Zek ;)...I wanna go to London. Hell, I just wanna go to Europe...it's been way too long.

Laury84

11-30-2006, 04:14 PM

i went to London during the Easter holidays this year!it's a beautiful city..But I had "some problems" with the english!I don't know why they don't like italians...

btw u should come to Italy!it's so much better than england! :D

Zek

11-30-2006, 05:23 PM

Thank you G so much!!! Hope you did not put too much effort and time, but it is so lovely!!! I'll certainly do everything of your suggestions and I am planning to read some photography books and perhaps take few lessons and certainly will go to that exhibition! Thank you very much - it is amazing!!!

Ryan - yeah sooner or later you'll come to Europe a bit of patience my friend :)

Laury - my top three wishlist includes Florence (!) and top 10 got Milan in it too, I am saving some money to take a trip to Greece next year and then a year after will go to Florence and Milano or maybe if lucky earlier.

As for now having a one day trip to offshore platform in the Caspian - man this platforms are like hotels got LCD tv and DVD, climate control in my room! Need to visit here a bit more :silly:

Laury84

11-30-2006, 05:42 PM

but where are u from?

u should come earlier in Italy man...it's great!and I don't say that only coz it's my country,but coz it really has got something that u'll never find in the other country!!really...and what about Roma?And Pisa and the tower?And Venezia (Venice)?And Toscany and Sardegna?u should really come...and u should come to Milano to see an Inter match in S.Siro...:)

Zek

12-01-2006, 03:27 AM

I am from Baku, Azerbaijan - that little country on the Caspian sea and shite football team that lost to France 10-0 ten years ago :(

yep Rome is a place to go and if I have money will go to Pisa, Siena and Venice but for now stick to Florence, Milan and then Rome

Laury84

12-01-2006, 06:46 AM

yeah...I know where is Azerbaijan! I'm sorry 4 that match!!the french are all....u know what they are! :lol:

Yeah Florence Milan and Rome are the best three cities in italy after venice!

ulster21

12-02-2006, 01:57 AM

yeah...I know where is Azerbaijan! I'm sorry 4 that match!!the french are all....u know what they are! :lol:

Yeah Florence Milan and Rome are the best three cities in italy after venice!

Sorry Laury, but I would not rate Milan as one of top cities to visit because when you think of Italy you picture warm weather, views of the beach, mediterranean type cities and this is not what Milan is. It kind of reminds me of Birmingham in that it does not have any good views or scenery and it is cold alot, It looks more mainland european than "Italian". Be warned... if you go to Milan do not expect the stereotypical Italy, the people are not as friendly as other Italian cities..... there more in a rush like Londoners.

Laury84

12-02-2006, 07:13 AM

Sorry Laury, but I would not rate Milan as one of top cities to visit because when you think of Italy you picture warm weather, views of the beach, mediterranean type cities and this is not what Milan is. It kind of reminds me of Birmingham in that it does not have any good views or scenery and it is cold alot, It looks more mainland european than "Italian". Be warned... if you go to Milan do not expect the stereotypical Italy, the people are not as friendly as other Italian cities..... there more in a rush like Londoners.
WHAT ARE U SAYING?!?!?!?!Have u ever been to Milan?All right.

1."if u think of Italy u picture warm weather".well even in Rome it's really cold in winter.so even Rome is not an italian city.In Milano is really hot in the summer and really cold in the winter.But we don't have rain all the days of the year.

2.The people are not friendly?Well I'm Milanese and I think that I'm friendly.don't u think so?The only difference with the other italian cities is that we work more than them.If it wasn't 4 Milano,Italy would be considered "3rd world".

3.Don't say that we are like the english coz u know that u're wrong.

ulster21

12-04-2006, 01:51 PM

WHAT ARE U SAYING?!?!?!?!Have u ever been to Milan?All right.

2.The people are not friendly?Well I'm Milanese and I think that I'm friendly.don't u think so?The only difference with the other italian cities is that we work more than them.If it wasn't 4 Milano,Italy would be considered "3rd world".

I've never been to Milan.....I saw a travel program on the tele about Milan :lol:

I already consider Italy to be a third world country .....:ronaldo:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 01:55 PM

I've never been to Milan.....I saw a travel program on the tele about Milan :lol:

I already consider Italy to be a third world country .....:ronaldo:
really?!?!?!we are a third world country in ur opinion? :mad2:

and u should come and see with ur eyes...we're great...:)

ulster21

12-04-2006, 01:57 PM

really?!?!?!we are a third world country in ur opinion? :mad2:

Only the south

and u should come and see with ur eyes...we're great...:)

Don't be mad :worried: .... I just based my opinion of Milan on what the woman on the travel show said.

Laury84

12-04-2006, 02:05 PM

Only the south

Don't be mad :worried: .... I just based my opinion of Milan on what the woman on the travel show said.
what?!?!?!no...we're not third world...even the south...we're a great coutry..and half of the US are what they are thanks to our south...

and what the hell she said about my city?!?!?!

ulster21

12-04-2006, 02:13 PM

what?!?!?!no...we're not third world...even the south...we're a great coutry..and half of the US are what they are thanks to our south... half of the U.S.?? I don't think so. The U.S. is a powerful country because of people of British heritage. Look at all the great inventors last names... Alexander Graham Bell, Henry Ford etc... they are of British ancestry. Italians are only really prevalant in the Northeastarn part of the U.S.

and what the hell she said about my city?!?!?!

You sound cute when you get mad :lol: ...;)

She just said that Milan is more like an American style city in that it is dominated by skyscrapers rather than villas and old world style architecture... and yes she did say that the people were not as friendly as other Italian cities because Milan is the center of finance in Italy so the people were more busy.

Laury84

12-04-2006, 02:23 PM

british?!?!c'mon...no honey...if it wasn't 4 our COLOMBO the US would be still unknown...

AMERICAN CITY?!?!AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah we are busy but we are friendly...u can meet us in the bars on monday morning and talk with us about football...and we are ITALIANS in all the way...
style architecture?!?!well...u hav never seen Milan...u should see our P.zza Duomo,the St.Centrale,our parks,our churches,our houses...
probably this woman has got some problems with the milanesi...she's jealous...coz we're hot...:lol: :lol:

I'm cute when I'm angry?!?!wow...thanks! ;)

ulster21

12-04-2006, 02:30 PM

british?!?!c'mon...no honey...if it wasn't 4 our COLOMBO the US would be still unknown... Who is Colombo??? Christopher Columbus was from England.......... j/k :p Still unknown, you think 600 years later with all the technology no other Europeans would be able to sail across the Atlantic & "discover" America :lol:

AMERICAN CITY?!?!AAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah we are busy but we are friendly...u can meet us in the bars on monday morning and talk with us about football...and we are ITALIANS in all the way...
style architecture?!?!well...u hav never seen Milan...u should see our P.zza Duomo,the St.Centrale,our parks,our churches,our houses...
probably this woman has got some problems with the milanesi...she's jealous...coz we're hot...:lol: :lol:

I'm cute when I'm angry?!?!wow...thanks! ;)

She did say that alot of Milanesi consider themselves more mainland European than Italian though.

Yes you are cute when you are angry ;) .... come to think of it you are cute all the time :heart:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 02:40 PM

don't call him Christofer Columbus please!his name is CRISTOFORO COLOMBO!!or I'll call u Giorgio...
btw I was joking...

The milanesi consider themselves ITALIANS!!!this woman is an idiot!!!she doesn't know nothing about Italy...like the half of the english...:)
There isn't only Tuscany in Italy....:)

uuhh....I'm not cute all the time...or maybe yes...;) thanks!!!!!!!!! :hug:

ulster21

12-04-2006, 02:45 PM

Laury84

12-04-2006, 02:50 PM

You can call me whatever you like :smoking:
All right....do u like apellefigliodapollofeceunapalladipelledipollo?

Fenerliyim

12-04-2006, 03:26 PM

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:33 PM

N.America was known to many other civilizations before the Europeans actually found out. U guys were probably the last to find out. Slow people.

But as Ulster said the US is based on the British not Italians. Italians used to be seen as scum, then the irish, the chinese, now the mexicans
that's only coz irish and italians were immigrants...the fact that the americans saw them "as scum" is disgusting..coz they went there to work and to give a future to their families...yeah...of course there was the mafia and all this stuff,but the majority wanted only to find a job...and they were treated like animals...disgusting....

ulster21

12-04-2006, 03:33 PM

Fenerliyim

12-04-2006, 03:54 PM

As u know Columbus only discovered the Caribbeans and not the mainland N.America. Turks have a map from Piri Reis which is amazing accurate for that time. Just read:

http://www.world-mysteries.com/sar_1.htm

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:58 PM

Laury84

12-04-2006, 03:59 PM

and thaks God that he discovered those...

ulster21

12-04-2006, 04:06 PM

that's only coz irish and italians were immigrants...the fact that the americans saw them "as scum" is disgusting..coz they went there to work and to give a future to their families...yeah...of course there was the mafia and all this stuff,but the majority wanted only to find a job...and they were treated like animals...disgusting....

Oh pleaseeeeeeeeee Laury :yell: Maybe if the Italians were not starting criminal gangs then many Americans would not have seen them as "scum" The immigrants were not treated badly!! You act as if they should have been given a free house & money when they got off the boat!! You have to work for things Laury!!

Laury84

12-04-2006, 04:15 PM

Oh pleaseeeeeeeeee Laury :yell: Maybe if the Italians were not starting criminal gangs then many Americans would not have seen them as "scum" The immigrants were not treated badly!! You act as if they should have been given a free house & money when they got off the boat!! You have to work for things Laury!!
:mad2: what?!?!?!ALL THE ITALIANS,even the italians that were only working,were trated like animals...u should read some books about that...cmon...and what the story of Sacco and Vanzetti tells to u?

Fenerliyim

12-04-2006, 04:25 PM

Laury84

12-04-2006, 04:29 PM

What italians think of blacks from the Godfather

about drugs:

"I don't want it near schools. I don't want it sold to children! In my city, we'd keep the traffic in the Dark People, the Coloreds - they're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls. "

Tch Tch Laury
so...u usually watch the movies to know what the italians think?!?! wow....

:lol: :lol:

ulster21

12-04-2006, 05:16 PM

:mad2: what?!?!?!ALL THE ITALIANS,even the italians that were only working,were trated like animals...u should read some books about that...cmon...and what the story of Sacco and Vanzetti tells to u?

Treated like animals? Just because they were living in lower class neighborhoods does not mean they were treated like animals? They were lower class people in Italy & they started out as lower class in America...... what's your point. Yes they worked in tough conditions in factories but so did most of the Americans at that time in history during the Industrial Revolution.

Laury84

12-04-2006, 05:21 PM

Treated like animals? Just because they were living in lower class neighborhoods does not mean they were treated like animals? They were lower class people in Italy & they started out as lower class in America...... what's your point. Yes they worked in tough conditions in factories but so did most of the Americans at that time in history during the Industrial Revolution.
no honey...THEY WERE TREATED LIKE ANIMALS not coz they were lower class people..coz the americans hated them coz they were different!!!REALLY...u should read some books about that...

Sacco and Vanzetti died only coz they were italians.that's it.

Laury84

12-04-2006, 07:38 PM

What italians think of blacks from the Godfather

about drugs:

"I don't want it near schools. I don't want it sold to children! In my city, we'd keep the traffic in the Dark People, the Coloreds - they're animals anyway, so let them lose their souls. "

Tch Tch Laury
no fener seriously...do u really think that the italians think those things about the black people coz in The Godfather they said that?
that's the s***...4 a stupid movie u americans think that Italians are all like those idiots...good job.

ulster21

12-04-2006, 08:03 PM

no fener seriously...do u really think that the italians think those things about the black people coz in The Godfather they said that?
that's the s***...4 a stupid movie u americans think that Italians are all like those idiots...good job.

that movie was made by Italians and starred Italians as actors...... thank them.

ulster21

12-04-2006, 08:13 PM

no honey...THEY WERE TREATED LIKE ANIMALS not coz they were lower class people..coz the americans hated them coz they were different!!!REALLY...u should read some books about that...

Sacco and Vanzetti died only coz they were italians.that's it.

Do you honeslty think the Americans would have disliked them so much if they were honest hardworking people????? They disliked them because in reality the majority of street crime & gangs in those times were committed or at least being organized by Italian thugs.

Ask yourself this question Laury.... why was their not the same dislike for other immigrant groups like the Germans or the Swedes? I'll tell you why.. because they were not the ones starting gangs and mafia's in American cities. So your saying Americans in those days should have just turned a blind eye to the criminal gangs because it was the politically correct thing to do?

Laury84

12-04-2006, 08:17 PM

that movie was made by Italians and starred Italians as actors...... thank them.
cmon...italians?!?!

Directed by : Francis Coppola (born in Detroit)
Starring : Marlon Brando (born in Nebraska)
Al Pacino (born in NY)
and these are the only that hav italian names and roots.but hey...u told me that if u hav italian grandparents but u live in the US u're not italian...so....THEY'RE NOT ITALIAN AT ALL!!!

And I don't know what's the situation in Britain or in the US but here in Italy we know the defference between MOVIES and REAL LIFE.

Laury84

12-04-2006, 08:22 PM

Do you honeslty think the Americans would have disliked them so much if they were honest hardworking people????? They disliked them because in reality the majority of street crime & gangs in those times were committed or at least being organized by Italian thugs.

Ask yourself this question Laury.... why was their not the same dislike for other immigrant groups like the Germans or the Swedes? I'll tell you why.. because they were not the ones starting gangs and mafia's in American cities. So your saying Americans in those days should have just turned a blind eye to the criminal gangs because it was the politically correct thing to do?
No u can't understand...this f****** things there are still today...and we don't hav mafia in the "US street" now...
and u don't know what does it means being italian and hav to say always the same things to defend ur country coz all the other people in the world think that u'r only a clown or an idiot,that we hav only mafia and stuff.f*** off.stop.

ulster21

12-04-2006, 08:23 PM

cmon...italians?!?!

Directed by : Francis Coppola (born in Detroit)
Starring : Marlon Brando (born in Nebraska)
Al Pacino (born in NY)
and these are the only that hav italian names and roots.but hey...u told me that if u hav italian grandparents but u live in the US u're not italian...so....THEY'RE NOT ITALIAN AT ALL!!!

You caught me :p ..... true.. well-whatever......."Italian-Americans"

Let's not fight anymore honey...........:hug:

ulster21

12-04-2006, 08:25 PM

No u can't understand...this f****** things there are still today...and we don't hav mafia in the "US street" now...
and u don't know what does it means being italian and hav to say always the same things to defend ur country coz all the other people in the world think that u'r only a clown or an idiot,that we hav only mafia and stuff.f*** off.stop.

:yell: ..............:shocked: .........:sorry:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 08:26 PM

You caught me :p ..... true.. well-whatever......."Italian-Americans"

Let's not fight anymore honey...........:hug:
I remember all the thing that u said to me honey...so....

all right....:hug:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 08:26 PM

:yell: ..............:shocked: .........:sorry:
what does it means?

ulster21

12-04-2006, 08:29 PM

what does it means?

It means that I was mad.... then shocked for what you said.....then sorry for hurting your feelings .........:heart:

Laury84

12-04-2006, 08:32 PM

It means that I was mad.... then shocked for what you said.....then sorry for hurting your feelings .........:heart:
all right...thanks....:) :hug:

Ryan27

12-04-2006, 11:03 PM

Ask yourself this question Laury.... why was their not the same dislike for other immigrant groups like the Germans or the Swedes? I'll tell you why.. because they were not the ones starting gangs and mafia's in American cities.
Actually, the US most certainly does have a notorious history of discrimination against German immigrants as well. Not sure about Swedes, but I would think that the number of Swede immigrants never compared to their Italian and German counterparts.

And I must say I'm a little stunned at the guy who tried to use 'The Godfather' as a gauge of all Italians (I don't believe that was you, ulster, if I remember correctly). That was rather ridiculous and showed the logic of an elementary school child. And wasn't that film based off a family with roots in southern Italy? As someone who has lived and traveled in Italy, I can say there is a huge difference between the north and the south. So using a film about a family with Sicilian heritage to judge all of Italy will never be accurate. Hell, I wouldn't use the film to gain an opinion on Sicilians either. It's only a movie (albeit a good one) and nothing more.

Anyway, I'm happy you guys seem to have brought this discussion to a close. Defamatory arguments like this one never result in anything positive.

Fenerliyim

12-04-2006, 11:43 PM

haha lol, u guys actually took that seriously. maybe i should have put a smile or something.

i was being sarcastic but o well

Laury84

12-05-2006, 06:17 AM

haha lol, u guys actually took that seriously. maybe i should have put a smile or something.

i was being sarcastic but o well
yeah Fener,the next time that u say something ironic please write :) or :lol:

Laury84

12-05-2006, 06:18 AM

Actually, the US most certainly does have a notorious history of discrimination against German immigrants as well. Not sure about Swedes, but I would think that the number of Swede immigrants never compared to their Italian and German counterparts.

And I must say I'm a little stunned at the guy who tried to use 'The Godfather' as a gauge of all Italians (I don't believe that was you, ulster, if I remember correctly). That was rather ridiculous and showed the logic of an elementary school child. And wasn't that film based off a family with roots in southern Italy? As someone who has lived and traveled in Italy, I can say there is a huge difference between the north and the south. So using a film about a family with Sicilian heritage to judge all of Italy will never be accurate. Hell, I wouldn't use the film to gain an opinion on Sicilians either. It's only a movie (albeit a good one) and nothing more.

Anyway, I'm happy you guys seem to have brought this discussion to a close. Defamatory arguments like this one never result in anything positive.
hav u lived in Italy???????????where?

Zek

12-05-2006, 06:34 AM

Laury84

12-05-2006, 02:39 PM

what's wrong with you people? :silly:

Europe without Italy might have never become a cultural Europe as it is now and as much as current Industrial Europe would have never been so strong without Brits and their empire.

as for US - it's a mix of everything
I don't know what's wrong with them....WITH ME NOTHING!!! :lol: :lol:

yeah...the US is a mix....u're right....

ulster21

12-05-2006, 03:16 PM

I don't know what's wrong with them....WITH ME NOTHING!!! :lol: :lol:

yeah...the US is a mix....u're right....

But Italian-Americans are only a considerable part of the population in the Northeast part of the U.S.

Laury84

12-05-2006, 03:26 PM

But Italian-Americans are only a considerable part of the population in the Northeast part of the U.S.
yeah...u're right...but u know that we are a considerable part of the US,a considerable part of Australia,a considerable part of Argentina,a considerable part of Scotland,a considerable part of Belgium,a considerable part of Brazil....and I can go on....:)

Ryan27

12-06-2006, 12:10 AM

hav u lived in Italy???????????where?
well, I'm a US military brat and my father was stationed at the base in Aviano...so I lived in a little town called Budoia for about three years. This is all in the Friuli region and we drove down to Venezia frequently.

Laury84

12-06-2006, 06:37 AM

well, I'm a US military brat and my father was stationed at the base in Aviano...so I lived in a little town called Budoia for about three years. This is all in the Friuli region and we drove down to Venezia frequently.
really???and u come back here frequently or not?

so do u speak a little bit of italian?

Ryan27

12-06-2006, 09:46 PM

nah, I went to an American school when I lived there and picked up only little bits of Italian...and as it's been almost 10 years since my family returned to the States, I've forgotten all that I had learned (which wasn't very much). I've not been back to Italy or Europe since, but I would desperately like to do so.

Laury84

12-07-2006, 07:03 AM

ah....it's really difficult 4 the english speaking people learn italian...btw u should come back...coz 10 years are a very long time....:)

Zek

12-11-2006, 11:20 PM

here i am in London, business takes most of the time so did not manage to use G's tips apart from walking through bits and pieces in London. Damn prices are abnormal in UK, I mean 160 bucks for taxi from airport to city :( but anyway company pays, and same for trains it takes 100 bucks for weekly train ticket. I can waste my salary here in couple of days, this is the first time experiencing strong pound...

Inter Empoli was a good game btw! Chelsea-Arsenal even better though :silly:

Laury84

12-12-2006, 06:08 AM

Zek

12-12-2006, 08:35 PM

:lol: :lol:

yeah London is not cheap at all!!!I spent more or less 1000€ in 5 days...:sad:

but why u didn't go from the airport to city with the subway?

i don't know, had too much stuff with me and wanted to try taxis :smoking:

kramboster

12-12-2006, 08:52 PM

What a city! Absolutely great in every aspect. :)

GiorgioII

12-13-2006, 07:58 PM

Well I hope you are enjoying our expensive capital zek! You should get the tube instead of taxi. It is much cheaper!! I hope that the business eases up a bit so you get a little more time to see the sights.

Laury84

12-13-2006, 08:23 PM

i don't know, had too much stuff with me and wanted to try taxis :smoking:
I didn't take taxis in London...I used the subway and my feet :lol:...

hope u can enjoy the city...but stay away from Soho during night!!! :lol: I had some problems there...;)

Zek

12-14-2006, 02:45 AM

not getting any relief till friday eve, today went to chinese restaurant Gold Drakon - and what was a fight there :)

btw, i was not envolved ;)

Laury84

12-14-2006, 06:38 PM

not getting any relief till friday eve, today went to chinese restaurant Gold Drakon - and what was a fight there :)

btw, i was not envolved ;)
yeah...u weren't envolved!! :lol: :lol: ;)

GiorgioII

12-14-2006, 07:46 PM

not getting any relief till friday eve, today went to chinese restaurant Gold Drakon - and what was a fight there :)

btw, i was not envolved ;)

Was that in china town? It can get a bit rough around there.

Laury84

12-14-2006, 07:47 PM

Was that in china town? It can get a bit rough around there.
omg I didn't see China town when I went to London!!!!!

why?!?!?!NOOOOOOOO!!!I hav to come back to London...:sad:

Zek

12-16-2006, 04:33 AM

yep it was China Town :) quite nice place :)

on friday finally completed all my objectives so went out again this time to Turkish TAG restaurant and then continued in Pacha Club, excellent house music :silly:

finally tomorrow will do something reasonable, it is my free day! Want to go to Fabric at night to complete my house music & clubbing objectives :silly: apart from that Salvador Dali exhibition and Photography exhibition which G advised and that will be my London trip - unfortunately business did not allow me too much of free time.

I wish to get an assignment in London for a year and then can join G & Co watching Inter games if they want to ;)