VfB Stuttgart

[nachi88]

Lets discuss VfB Stuttgart's season here.

Did you know the full name of the club is VfB Stuttgart 1893 ev

Team:
Goalkeepers: Timo Hildebrand, Dirk heinen, Michael Langer
Defenders: Fernando Meira, Heiko Gerber, Matthieu Delpierre, Markus Babbel, Ludovic Magnin, Andreas Beck, Serdar Tasci, Ricardo Osorio, Arthur ***a
Midfielders: Silvio Meißner, Christian Gentner, Daniel Bierofka, Thomas Hitzlsperger, José-Alex Ikeng, Alexander Farnerud, Antonio da Silva, Roberto Hilbert, Pavel Pardo
Attackers: Jeronimo Cacau, Mario Gomez, Marco Streller, Bernd Nehrig, Jon Dahl Tomasson

[Calif]

This team is doing good this season!!!!!I honestly before did not pay much attention to the Bundesliga but since they have two Mexican players in this league I started to follow the bundesliga!!!both mexican players play for Stuttgart they are Pardo and Osorio!!!!

[Lance Knight]

Hitzlsperger and Pardo are two of my boys dude

[Xizor]

Thanks nachi88 for this thread! Alright let's discuss Stuttgart, this team is doing great right now even though they lost last week. Is Stuttgart involved in another tournament that isin't the local one?

[emode]

Stuttgart lost to Bayern Munich last week....they are not as tough as they look after all!!

[Calif]

Sunday November 26, 2006

VfB Stuttgart 1 - 0 Borussia M'gladbach

[Xizor]

Sunday November 26, 2006

VfB Stuttgart 1 - 0 Borussia M'gladbach

Hell yeah, did Pardo and Osorio play?

[emode]

Hell yeah, did Pardo and Osorio play?
Both of them did play but Osorio was a subsitution & only played in the final moment!

[Calif]

Yeah but they are doing good I think Osorio is coming out of an injury!!

[Calif]

Friday December 1, 2006

Mainz 0 - 0 VfB Stuttgart

[Calif]

Damn stuttgart got a tie they might lose their second place currently right now!

[Calif]

Saturday December 9, 2006

VfB Stuttgart 1 - 0 VfL Bochum

[Calif]

Good for Pardo and Osorio the mexican players playing for stuttgart!!!

[Xizor]

Sttutgart tied yesterday but I forgot against who. They are currently in 4th place I think!

[emode]

Sttutgart tied yesterday but I forgot against who. They are currently in 4th place I think!
Yes it tied 0:0 with Energie Cottbus ....they moved to 4th.place with Bayern Munich moving to 3rd.

[Calif]

Saturday Decembe 16, 2006

Energie Cottbus 0 - 0 VfB Stuttgart

[Calif]

I don't get to see much games of Stuttgart how are the Mexicans Pavel Pardo and Ricardo Osorio doing?

[Xizor]

Saturday Decembe 16, 2006

Energie Cottbus 0 - 0 VfB Stuttgart

If I remember well I think Ricardo Osorio and Pavel Pardo did play in this game, Osorio had a decent performance and Pardo missed an opportunity to score a goal. :redeyes:

[Calif]

Pavel Pardo has not score nothing but 1 goal!!!!!

[Xizor]

Pavel Pardo has not score nothing but 1 goal!!!!!

Well Pardo doesn't really attack so much as he should, but maybe it's the fact that he's a defensive mid. I don't care he's currently doing well with his club and that's great to hear. :)

[Calif]

Well by now I would've expected more goals but then again I wonder who kicks the freekicks in stuttgart!!! Pavel Pardo is really good at shooting them freekicks!!!

[Xizor]

Well by now I would've expected more goals but then again I wonder who kicks the freekicks in stuttgart!!! Pavel Pardo is really good at shooting them freekicks!!!

Maybe that's why he hasn't scored many goals but as time goes on I think he'll be able to score more goals. Pardo just needs a little more confidence that's it!

[emode]

Stuttgart beat Arminia Bielefeld 3-2 to move past Bayern into third place with 35 points. lol Bayern is playing like crap again ....
Mario Gomez scored twice for Stuttgart ....this guy is really good with 10 goals this season!

[Xizor]

Stuttgart beat Arminia Bielefeld 3-2 to move past Bayern into third place with 35 points. lol Bayern is playing like crap again ....
Mario Gomez scored twice for Stuttgart ....this guy is really good with 10 goals this season!

Mario Gomez, I've seen this guy play and he's pretty good. So is Stuttgart's goalkeeper, he's also a great football player. :yawn:

[emode]

Mario Gomez, I've seen this guy play and he's pretty good. So is Stuttgart's goalkeeper, he's also a great football player. :yawn:

lol what you have something againts Mario Gomez?

He's just been called in the Germany NT lineup for the friendly match against Switzerland next Wednesday's 7th.Feb.

[Xizor]

lol what you have something againts Mario Gomez?


Why do you say that? :smoking:

[emode]

Why do you say that? :smoking:
hahhha because i was posting about Mario Gomez & you put :yawn: in the previous post :lol: thats why i thought u had something against him :p

N-way Mario Gomez is currently the top scorer in this season Bundesliga with 12 goals thus far ... the last one during 4-1 win Werder Bremen.

[Xizor]

hahhha because i was posting about Mario Gomez & you put :yawn: in the previous post :lol: thats why i thought u had something against him :p

N-way Mario Gomez is currently the top scorer in this season Bundesliga with 12 goals thus far ... the last one during 4-1 win Werder Bremen.

No, I always put different smilies at the end of a post, that's just me! Anyways did you guys see Ricardo Osorio's goal yesterday, pretty cool!

[emode]

^yeah i did saw the highlight only .... it was an awesome game for stuggart with 4 goals lol. Eintracht Frankfurt more or less just let stuggart controlled the whole game. Osorio was at the right place at the right time & that goal was pretty cool!

[Xizor]

^yeah i did saw the highlight only .... it was an awesome game for stuggart with 4 goals lol. Eintracht Frankfurt more or less just let stuggart controlled the whole game. Osorio was at the right place at the right time & that goal was pretty cool!

Yeah Stuttgart played a great game that day, I saw the whole match! :D

[emode]

Next Stuggart game is against Bayer Leverkusen ... Mario Gomez their top scorer was injured during the last match meeting Hertha Berlin. It will be in doubt whether he will play this saturday 3rd.March.

[Xizor]

I herd Stuttgart lost against Bayer Leverkusen, that sucks!

[emode]

^yeah it was a 3:1 defeat for stuggart against bayer!! A defeat for stuggart is a good thing for bayern with now only 2 points separating them in the bundesliga.

[Xizor]

That's not a good thing, it's a bad thing! Well anyways I herd Stuttgart is now in 3rd place! :sad:

[emode]

That's not a good thing, it's a bad thing! Well anyways I herd Stuttgart is now in 3rd place! :sad:
yeah they are still at 3rd.place with a recent lost to top team Schalke.

[Xizor]

Yeah they lost 1 zip! :sad:

[emode]

Yeah they lost 1 zip! :sad:
Don't worry about it ... bayern lost is a lot worse :sad: !!! They lost to lowly club Eintracht Frankfurt this week. At least stuggart lost to Schalke a top team of the bundesliga.

[Xizor]

Yeah, I'm lucky I'm not a Bayern fan! lol

[emode]

Yeah, I'm lucky I'm not a Bayern fan! lol
Yeah but being a true fan you have to support your team thru both the good and bad times so i guess i'm sticking with bayern even if they sucks at the moment. Go bayern!! :D

Stuggart is meeting Alemania Aachen in their next game... they will probably win this one!

[Xizor]

Yeah you got that right emode! :thumb:

[emode]

Yeah you got that right emode! :thumb:
of course i'm right xizor :)
... btw stuggart is meeting bayern munich this weekend. Its a must win for bayern or else they will be out of the Uefa's Champions League list next season if they continue being at 4th. I'm not overly confident but at least stuggart top scorer Gomez is still out. Go bayern!!

[Xizor]

of course i'm right xizor :)
... btw stuggart is meeting bayern munich this weekend. Its a must win for bayern or else they will be out of the Uefa's Champions League list next season if they continue being at 4th. I'm not overly confident but at least stuggart top scorer Gomez is still out. Go bayern!!

Your not always right emode! :ronaldo: I believe Stuttgart will kick some ass this weekend by a final score of 2 to 1!

[emode]

Your not always right emode! :ronaldo: I believe Stuttgart will kick some ass this weekend by a final score of 2 to 1!
Yeah you were right bayern got slaughtered by stuggart 2:0 *sigh*
....it was an utterly demoralising game. It seems there were no passion & desire to win in the bayern side anymore. They made so many errors in defence esp after that first goal by stuggart!! With only 4 more games remaining in the bundesliga i see no hope at all for bayern :worried:

[Xizor]

Stuttgart is numero uno! :ronaldo:

[emode]

^haha i used the edit button instead of quote .... i didn't edit anything actually :lol:


Stuttgart is numero uno! :ronaldo:
Hey thats not true entirely haha .... stugart is just slightly better than than bayern. Schalke the current leader in bundesliga is the actual the numero uno this season!!

[Xizor]

Yeah but they'll catch up!

Anyways, isin't Stuttgart also in the German Cup Final or something like that?

[Xizor]

Stuutgart just needs to win one more game and they are the Champions of the Bundesliga!

[emode]

Stuutgart just needs to win one more game and they are the Champions of the Bundesliga!

Not sure but from what i gathered they actually had only to draw with Cottbus next week to be the Champion of this season Bundesliga. Thats because their biggest rival schalke lost to Borussia Dortmund this week putting stuggart 2 points ahead of them. Its good news for stuggart fan i suppose :) Stuggart is also in the German Cup Final. Meh, i'm not so happy abt it but i guess they truly deserved it this time around!!

[Xizor]

Of course they do! :)

[emode]

Of course they do! :)

Well we have to see this weekend whether they can actually win the bundesliga title. It won't be easy :D

[Xizor]

Well I have confidence in the Mexicans!

[emode]

Well I have confidence in the Mexicans!

Of course you do!! :)

[Xizor]

;)

[shevafan]

Congrats to Stutgard Fans!!! Who would have though u would come up as champions of bundesliga at the end?? anyways i think this year's budesliga was amazing considering it had to go to the last day to determine a winner. once again congratulations!

[emode]

Congrats to Stutgard Fans!!! Who would have though u would come up as champions of bundesliga at the end?? anyways i think this year's budesliga was amazing considering it had to go to the last day to determine a winner. once again congratulations!

Yeah congratualtions Stuggart. It was amazing they were trailing behind schalke all season long at 2nd. place and all of sudden came out at the top & wining the Bundesliga this season. It was truly deserving for them :thumb: I have nothing but respect for the whole team!!

[Xizor]

Gongrats to Stuttgart!

I just read an article that indicated a possible transfer of another Mexican player to Stuttgart next season, he's Omar Bravo from Chivas(MEX)!

[emode]

Gongrats to Stuttgart!

I just read an article that indicated a possible transfer of another Mexican player to Stuttgart next season, he's Omar Bravo from Chivas(MEX)!

Both Osario & Pavel Pardo have done excellent at stuggart so its no suprise if they have confidence to add another mexican to the team. I heard so much about Omar Bravo now i got to see him in bundesliga. I really hope the transfer will get thru :)

Stuttgart will be in the German Cup final on the 25th. May againsts FC Nurnberg.

[caruiz93]

why has no one commented on this..stuttgart surprised many by winning the bundes liga..no one expected them to win it..the usual favorites are bayern munic,wereder bremmen and maybe shalke 04 but not stuttgart..

[Andygers]

There is a sticky on it and there are comments in that about the title win.

But as I'm here yeah it was a great victory for them but what about the cup!!! I thought they would have won but hey at least they can say they are the champions

[Fenerliyim]

yildiray bastürk has signed a three-year contract with german champions vfb stuttgart.

[Bosnian Unit]

http://sportin.ba/SlikeFoto/svabica.jpg

[Xizor]

^^Nice!

[emode]

^^yeah nice!!!

Stuttgart no. 1 goalkeeper Timo Hildebrand has just made a switched to Valencia for a 4 year contract. Stuttgart could be in deep trouble keeping the bundesliga title next season without this excellent keeper. I wonder who's going to be Stuttgart keeper now replacing Hildebrand .... will he be as good???

Here's Timo all smile in his new team jersey:

http://img186.imageshack.us/img186/2036/hildebrand460423sp6.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Solid Snake]

it's gonna be hard to replace him if they don't pull out the big bills $$$$

[caruiz93]

im sure they have the big bills after a succesful season like this one,

[emode]

im sure they have the big bills after a succesful season like this one

No i heard Stuttgart is not spending much for this summer transfer.
Even the Hilderbrand moved to Valencia is a free transfer.
Maybe the club can't afford it :noidea: which is good of course for bayern munich ...we will snatch the bundesliga title easily from them next season.

[caruiz93]

stuttgart may not have the big name players but they have huge prospects..mario gomez is gonna be the german national teams next big star sami khedira is also really good...pavel pardo was great last season voted the fifth best player in the bindes liga

[Xizor]

Omar Bravo might also sign with Stuttgart, nothing official yet!

[emode]

Omar Bravo might also sign with Stuttgart, nothing official yet!

Really that will be awesome!!
I saw Omar Bravo played for the Mexican team in the Copa America.
He's cute haha and pretty fast on his feet.
But i haven't read anything about his signing from Stuttgart news or website.

[Xizor]

Well it's just a rumor or maybe Stuttgart is just interested, I don't have much information but if I find any I'll post it here! :)

[dannymex]

Really that will be awesome!!
I saw Omar Bravo played for the Mexican team in the Copa America.
He's cute haha and pretty fast on his feet.
But i haven't read anything about his signing from Stuttgart news or website.


i doubt this will happen, bravo is in a slump right now. Hopefully he can pick up his game.

[emode]

^Yeah hopefully he'll recover soon


Well it's just a rumor or maybe Stuttgart is just interested, I don't have much information but if I find any I'll post it here!
Thnks xizor that will be awesome! :)

[Xizor]

No problem emode! ;)

[Xizor]

Brazilian Ewerthon signs for Stuttgart
Tuesday 17 July 2007

http://www.fifa.com/mm/photo/worldfootball/clubfootball/trdv209127%5f12144%5fsq%5fmedium.jpg

Brazilian international Ewerthon has become Bundesliga champions VfB Stuttgart's fifth new signing for the new season, the club announced on Tuesday.

The 26-year-old forward, who made the last of his six appearances for his country in 2003, played for fellow Bundesliga side Borussia Dortmund between 2002 and 2005, netting 47 goals in 119 appearances.

He joins fellow Stuttgart newcomers goalkeeper Raphael Schaefer, Brazilian defender Gledson, Turkish midfielder Yildiray Basturk and midfielder Georges Mandjeck.

He joins VfB on loan from Spanish club Real Zaragoza and Stuttgart will have the option to make the loan deal permanent for their new number nine next summer.

Ewerthon said: "I'm delighted to be back in the Bundesliga with VfB Stuttgart. It's a dream come true to be able to play in the Champions League with the German champions next season. I'll be doing all in my power to aid VfB in continuing their recent success."

[emode]

Brazilian international Ewerthon has become Bundesliga champions VfB Stuttgart's fifth new signing for the new season, the club announced on Tuesday.

He joins fellow Stuttgart newcomers goalkeeper Raphael Schaefer, Brazilian defender Gledson, Turkish midfielder Yildiray Basturk and midfielder Georges Mandjeck.



Haha none of the Stuttgart new signings sound intimidating enough including Ewerthon. Bayern Munchen has nothing to worry about with our new star-studded signings the bundesliga title will be bayern's next season for sure :D :)

[Xizor]

So who cares, we pretty much won the league with not that many popular players what makes you think we can't do it again?

[emode]

That was stuttgart first win in 15years..they won't win another one. Bayern was just having a crappy down time last season because of the changing of the coach, players injuries and stuffs. But this season Bayern is better prepared so i'm confident with club :D

[Xizor]

We'll see! :D

[emode]

We'll see! :D
Haha not sure now...aren't u? Honestly i think stuttgart will have a much difficult time this season than last.

[dannymex]

bayren looks like theyre gonna kick some serious ass next season. Ribery and Klose are gonna be a big factor for the teams success

[emode]

bayren looks like theyre gonna kick some serious ass next season. Ribery and Klose are gonna be a big factor for the teams success
Hey thanks Danny :)
Bayern will be meeting Stuttgart on July 25th.2007 for the semi-final of German League Cup. Hoping for Bayern victory!

[caruiz93]

last season proved that good team football will overcome star power(wow that sounded like some princes peach phrase)anyway youall get the point...

[Xizor]

Bayern vs. Stuttgart the 25th, I woun't miss it!

[emode]

Final Score

VfB Stuttgart 0 2 Bayern

[Xizor]

Dam that sucks!

[emode]

Congratulations to Stuttgart's striker Mario Gomez

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/1069/mariogomez196575xi7.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

He has been voted the Bundesliga's best player of the 2006/07 season in a poll of Germany's sports writers. Gomez's boss at Stuttgart, Armin Veh, received the award for coach of the season.

Totally deserving for them both because Stuttgart had an excellent campaign last season.

[Xizor]

They sure did!

[emode]

Well, Stuttgart barely won 1:0 against MSV Dusiburg a new comer to the bundesliga in their last game this weekend!! They lost their earlier match with Hertha Berlin so things are not looking so good for the team this season!! So i wouldn't be too optimistic about stuttgart ;)

[Xizor]

Calm down, the season just started missy! ;)

[emode]

Calm down, the season just started missy! ;)
Lol i am calm can't u tell? ;) I'm just saying the fact as it is right now. Anyway Stuttgart will meet Karlsruher SC this weekend which is a new entry to this season bundesliga from the 2nd.Division. So they will should win this match quite easily!! Both Mexicans Pavel and Osario will be in the line-up!!

[emode]

^well they lost that game :rolleyes:

Update: September 15, Saturday

VfB Stuttgart 3 0 Cottbus

Currently 9th. the bundensliga standing

[Xizor]

Man this sucks, I guess ever since Timo left the team we've been very bad!

[emode]

Man this sucks, I guess ever since Timo left the team we've been very bad!
That's true but Timo is not doing that great in Valencia either...things are looking pretty bad in his new club. Valencia has lost many games and recently fired their coach. He should have stayed in stuttgart.

But its still early. It's only been half season there's plenty of time for stuttgart to turn things around. Their next game is against Eintracht Frankfurt on this Sat Dec,24th. Hope they do better...its a shame to see former Bundesliga champ doing so badly ...not that i'm complaining ! :D

[Andygers]

How are Stuttgart fans feeling about this match against Rangers?????

[emode]

^they just had a wake-up called recently and beat Eintracht Frankfurt 4:1 in their last match in the bundesliga.

So, they could be lethal against rangers and want to save some pride in the CL after sufferring four defeats in their last qualifying matches. The game itself will have no meaning because stuggart already eliminated.

N-way being not a stuttgart fan i hope rangers will win it and advance to the knockout stage and stay in the competition.

[Solid Snake]

Stuttgart looks dead in UCL,.......

it sucks that pardo wont be playing for the NT anymore

[emode]

Stuttgart already dead at the bottom of the group in the CL

Why wasn't pardo playing for the Mexican NT anymore?

[Solid Snake]

i think they vetoed him out
but nobody knows why,........first they said because he missed some games with the NT, but he did ask for permission,..............
then the said he's too old and he wont make it to the world cup,...so might as well keep him out

i think its BS,........maybe he wont get to WC but he can still help mexico get there

roger milla was freaking old when he played his last world cup!

[emode]

Not to get off-topic :lol: but how old is he? Oliver Kahn is 39 yrs old and still with the German NT.

[Solid Snake]

i think he's only 31 (if not 32, but not 33),.........maldini is 40 years old!!

[emode]

Thats not that old .....but this thing happened sometimes but they usually will called the player back. Pardo is doing really well in stuttgart maybe they wil reconsider.

[Solid Snake]

hopefully,..........i think they vetoed osorio also,.....but they said they might reconsider his case

btw congrats for your 3,900 posts!
good job :thumbsup:

[Lance Knight]

Not to get off-topic :lol: but how old is he? Oliver Kahn is 39 yrs old and still with the German NT.
yea but kahn is a GK, and Maldini is a defender, pardo is winger if i am correct, and lets face it thats too old for that position

[emode]

yea but kahn is a GK, and Maldini is a defender, pardo is winger if i am correct, and lets face it thats too old for that position
Oh i see ...thnks for pointing that out. What abt Ryan Giggs? He's like 36 or something and a winger but he still play for Wales NT. There's plenty other players out there who much older and still playing for their NT. Okay i could be wrong of course :lol:

[Lance Knight]

well wales doesnt really have that much options compared to mexico

[emode]

well wales doesnt really have that much options compared to mexico
I suppose so .... it's good to give younger players chances. Pardo is better off playing just in stuttgart and retired there :lol:

[Xizor]

That's bull shit what they did to Pavel, he's the best free/corner kicker in Mexican history imo!

[Lance Knight]

i too think he is good, but look what they are doing the same with alot of players in the Nts, look at raul, he back on form (well atleast should be on the bench), and what about beckham, who else, amm.........i am sleepy cant think of anymore right now

[Solid Snake]

roberto carlos too.............

pavel scored today in UCL!,...and one assist
and marica did a superb goal

[Solid Snake]

Marica winner makes Rangers sweat

http://www.uefa.com/multimediafiles/photo/competitions/ucl/627424_mediumsquare.jpg

Ciprian Marica struck five minutes from time as VfB Stuttgart earned their first points of the UEFA Champions League campaign and dealt a blow to Rangers FC's hopes of progressing to the last 16.

Lyon test
Rangers had looked on course for a valuable win on 27 minutes, when less than 60 seconds after replacing Lee McCulloch, Charlie Adam scored with his first touch, lashing in from close range after Carlos Cuéllar had headed in a corner into his path. Cacau equalised on the cusp of half-time, however, before Pável Pardo completed the turnaround on 62 minutes, his fizzing shot taking a slight deflection off Roberto Hilbert as it crept inside the post. Barry Ferguson made it 2-2 but Marica's goal means that Rangers now must get at least a point from their Matchday 6 encounter against Olympique Lyonnais at Ibrox. Stuttgart already knew they could not climb from fourth place in Group E.

Lively start
The match was preceded with an impromptu dance between Rangers mascot Broxi Bear and his VfB counterpart Fritzle but any amicability was soon forgotten in a committed opening. Rangers could have taken the lead on seven minutes but DaMarcus Beasley scuffed his shot with only Raphael Schäfer to beat, and the home side responded immediately as Hilbert broke and delivered an arcing cross that hit Carlos Cuéllar and looped into the arms of the grateful Allan McGregor.

Box to box
While Broxi and Fritzle had done their pre-match routine, German cruiserweight Firat Arslan was interviewed by the stadium announcer and the end-to-end game had more the tempo of a boxing bout than a waltz. Just as Stuttgart began to threaten, Rangers hit back with a sucker-punch, with Jean-Claude Darcheville surging past Matthieu Delpierre before firing a weak effort into the side-netting. At the other end Ciprian Marica, enjoying a rare start in place of the injured Mario Gómez, sent Cacau clear with a delicate touch but McGregor came to Rangers' rescue, saving with his legs.

Cacau flick
True to form, the visitors hit back; Ferguson's shot trickling agonizingly past the upright following a heavy Delpierre deflection. From the resulting corner Ludovic Magnin cleared David Weir's header off the goalline and although McCulloch's injury could have knocked Rangers off their stride, Adam had other ideas. Having lost their previous Group E fixtures it could have been a telling blow yet VfB took stock, and upped the tempo as half-time approached. Cacau and Sami Khedira both had openings before the pressure finally told two minutes into added time, Cacau adroitly flicking in Pardo's driven cross following a short corner.

Ferguson equaliser

Rangers' misery was compounded three minutes after the restart as they lost Beasley to injury and Stuttgart took hold of the game. Just after the hour Pardo made it 2-1, but the lead lasted just eight minutes before Ferguson side-footed into the empty net after substitute Steven Naismith had dispossessed Delpierre and sent in a cross that Schäfer could only to palm into the Rangers captain's path. Marica had the last word, however, flicking in Magnin's cross via a Weir deflection.



too bad they're already eliminated

[emode]

Yeh too bad Stuttgart already eliminated from the CL. Definetely this season is not their season. They peaked last season and went down from there lol !

[Xizor]

It's not funny, it's kind of sad actually!

[emode]

yeah that is sad for a stuttgart fan but it's still only half season in the bundesliga maybe they will catch on in January when the Bundesliga resume.

They shoudn't have let Timo Hilderbrant go to Valencia....their current keeper is such as mess!!

[Xizor]

Yeah, where's Stuttgart currently located in the leaderboard?

[SiN]

They are currently 8th

[Xizor]

Thanks for the info Sin!

[emode]

You're welcome .....it sucks that bundesliga isn't starting yet. We have to wait till Feb to see how they going to do for the rest of the season.

[Xizor]

Aww that sucks, who's on top, let me guess Bayern Munich? lol

[emode]

Of course!!! But they sharing point with Werder Bremen. I'm not liking it lol but at least stuttgart is way down so there's no threat from them :D

[Xizor]

Such a meanie!

[emode]

Haha okay ..... i haven't heard any new signing by stuttgart for the january transfer but their next game will be on Feb 3, 2008 againsts Schalke. It will be an away game for them.

[Xizor]

Nice, thanks for the update emode! :thumb:

[emode]

You're welcome .....:)

[Xizor]

All I need is a cool Stuttgart sig, I'll make one this week!

[emode]

Haha okay :p
Bleh, i just read this rumours in the bundesliga transfer port thread that stuttgart is showing interest in podolski. I'm certain it's just a rumour because there is no way podolski is leaving bayern!!

[Vegitto]

I wouldnt be too sure about that.Podolski himself said last week that he will wait till may to see if his situation gets better and if not he will look for a new club.

[Xizor]

Then hopefully he comes to a better squad! :D

[SiN]

Stuttgart beat Ajax in a friendly last night 1-0.

[Vegitto]

Ajax was playing with 10 men for most of the time because of a red card. Stuttgart however dominated the match but was unable to score until Farnerud scored after 88'

[emode]

I wouldnt be too sure about that.Podolski himself said last week that he will wait till may to see if his situation gets better and if not he will look for a new club.

Yeah career wise it is better for podolski to move to another club where he'll get more chance to play the full squad. He hardly made it the whole 90 minutes playing with bayern in any game...he was always a sub with only 20 to 30 minutes game time. How is he going to get better if he never given the opportunity?

It's hard to fight for position in bayern squad with klose and luca toni around. A move to stuttgart might be a better thing for him where he will be appreciated. Especially since stuttgart do needs a striker beside Gomez. But i would have prefer for him to stay in bayern.

[Xizor]

Great victory for Stuttgart, I herd they won third place in that small tournament!

[emode]

^What tournament is that? I didn't heard about it...

[Xizor]

The Dubai Cup or something like that, Internacional de Brasil beat Inter Milan 2-1 yesterday and they won the cup! Stuttgart beat Ajax 1-0 and they ended up in third place!

[Solid Snake]

mario gomez baby

[Xizor]

You know it son!

[emode]

^:lol: @ xizor and leo!

Uli Hoeness Bayern's director has reacted angrily to stuttgart's director Horst Heldt about his interest to attempted to unsettle striker Lukas Podolski. Hoeness was furious with Heldt for openly discussing a player who still has over two years left to run on his contract.

"How would Stuttgart react if we said that we would be interested in Mario Gomez?" Hoeness said.

"If we had acted like this, there would soon be a letter of protest from Stuttgart."

See i told u podolski is not going to leave bayern for stuttgart. He's much too valuable for bayern munich :)

[DelijaZauvjek]

lol
Bayern Munich are going to let him stay until summer to let him prove all he has..
Because Luca Toni is going to be retiring soon....and they need a replacement..
Also, Klose is not as young as he used to be =/....


Lukas needs to step his game up a little bit and start showing what he is made of....
but if someone offers Bayern a heafty amount of money then they won't reject...

[emode]

lol
Bayern Munich are going to let him stay until summer to let him prove all he has..
Because Luca Toni is going to be retiring soon....and they need a replacement..
Also, Klose is not as young as he used to be =/....


Lukas needs to step his game up a little bit and start showing what he is made of....
but if someone offers Bayern a heafty amount of money then they won't reject...

I totally agree with u plus Jurgen klinsmann has been made the official bayern's new coach to take over hitzfeld. So there's no way podolski is ever going to leave bayern for stuttgart now. Not with him playing so well under Klinsmann guidance...

[Xizor]

At this point in the season we need anyone that could help us out!

[emode]

At this point in the season we need anyone that could help us out!
I'm sure they will get their pace back after the long break...they still got Gomez one of German's best striker after klose, podolski and kuranyi!! They will be fine.

[Xizor]

I hope your right emode! :worried:

[Solid Snake]

cacau is also a great footballer

[Xizor]

I think it's because we lost our keeper in the transfer season!

[emode]

I think it's because we lost our keeper in the transfer season!
Yup Timo Hilderbrand was an excellent keeper and it's sad to see his transfer to valencia leaving stuggart in such a mess. Plus, the club also refuse to spend any funds to buy more decent players.

@leo - who's cacau? Sorry for my ingnorant but i really don't know :worried:

[Solid Snake]

Jeronimo Maria Barreto Claudemir da Silva (born March 27, 1981), simply known as Cacau, is a Brazilian football striker who currently plays for VfB Stuttgart.

http://www.jeronimocacau.azplayers.com/pictures/Jeronimo-Cacau-pictures2.jpg

successes & honors

-League cup: Place 2 with the VfB Stuttgart 2005
-Federal league: Place 4 with the VfB Stuttgart 2004
-Championsleague: Round of the last sixteen with the VfB Stuttgart 2003/2004
-UEFA Cup: “Mister Europacup” with 8 gates 2004/2005
-Contactor “gate of the monthly” in August 2006
-Golden compass 2007

[Xizor]

Yeah Cacau is bad ass, I forgot about him!

[emode]

Bad ass???? :lol: so are the two of you stuttgart fans? OH come on let's come over to bayern side cos we're going to win this season bundesliga :D

[Solid Snake]

im not a fan,.......but i like watching german football sometimes,........cause it's fast, a lot of running and good finishing,....kind of like EPL,......but a different style

so how are you doing emode?

[emode]

I'm good leo ... Oh glad to know u're not a stuttgart fan :)

I think EPL is played a lot more faster than German football but i have always been a german fan and most of german NT players are found in bayern munich. It's like german NT A squad looking in bayern team nowadays!!

[Solid Snake]

that's how it used to be with chivas of mexico some time ago(calif's team,.....and my rival :boo: )

but only because foreigners are not allowed in that club lol

[emode]

Oh i read about that too.... how Chivas Mexico only use Mexicans for their team. Is it the same for Chivas USA too? What do you mean used to? So they do not practice that anymore?

[Solid Snake]

they still have that requirement in chivas
but they used to have about 7 or 8 national players, now only like 3 or 4
oh and in Chivas USA that "principle" isn't used

in my team they just take away our keeper he's first choice for the NT,..and sometimes our back right winger
but we have 4 other players that play for other NTs

[emode]

Oh i see .....it's hard for a club to use only the local so they have to rely on foreigners. It's good to have more foreigners so football can expand globally :lol:

[Solid Snake]

yeah my team has the best player of the american continent!(salvador cabañas of paraguay, second top goal scorer in the world) only players that play in the continent were nominated for this award of course,.......

and our keeper is best keeper in the continent, including brazilian and argentine keepers in europe

[emode]

So who won the Mexican League last season? Your club or Chivas Mexico?..we don't get any mexican football coverage where i am.

[Solid Snake]

Atlante of Cancun,.......they had just moved there too because Club America decided they didn't want to share Estadio Azteca anymore :D
its good for cancun,...........it will attract more fans

they were second in the table,..........but in mexico they have playoffs for some reason and 8 teams go to quarter finals

[emode]

^I think we are going off topic leo :lol:

N-way it's strange but stuttgart hasn't been making any new changes and signing during this january transfer window at all. I guess the club decided they are fine the way they were doing now.

[Solid Snake]

but they're not,.....they need more "foreigners" :lol:

[emode]

^Yeah probably more mexicans :lol:

[Solid Snake]

they need a solid defender like lucio

[emode]

I think they critically need a good striker too!! They are relying too much on Gomez now and it's no good!! Gomez can be really inconsistent!!

[Xizor]

We just need a good keeper, like Guillermo Ochoa! :ronaldo:

[Solid Snake]

ochoa to sttutgart is a step down!

[emode]

Stuttgart have signed teenage striker Sven Schipplock. He's 19 years old and played with the 2nd.division club SSV Reutlingen. He's supposed to be very talented.

[Xizor]

ochoa to sttutgart is a step down!

Well Ochoa is not doing that well with CA if you ask me, Stuttgart would be a great move for him!

[emode]

Well, stuttgart cannot be saved anymore this season. They lost their last match against Herta Berlin 3:1.
Sorry ok not really!! :)

[Xizor]

Yeah we're pretty much done for this season!

[emode]

It's pretty pathetic actually considering they were last season champion. They are currently at 10th.

Hopefully they will make some drastic change next season!! They are a good team but lacking in defence!!

[BavarianRed]

mario gomez saves stuttgart all the time dat guy is soo good he played really well wen stuttgart beat bayern 3-1

[Xizor]

It's all good, as long as Bayern doesn't win I'm good!

[BavarianRed]

FC bayern is going to win Bundesliga this year!!!!! just watch.... :smoking::smoking: dere bring home the title

[emode]

It's all good, as long as Bayern doesn't win I'm good!
Why are u so againsts bayern munich?? :sad:

[Xizor]

Same reason you don't like Stuttgart! :)

[emode]

Same reason you don't like Stuttgart! :)
OMG i thought for awhile it was Omar :lol:
Hey, i never said i don't like stuttgart.

[Xizor]

Haha I better remove this avatar, people are really getting confused!

[emode]

Let's keep it for a day :lol: ..it's nice to be able to talk to Omar!

[Xizor]

Haha, ok!

[Xizor]

No nevermind, I'll take it off! I don't want Omar to get mad!

[emode]

Hey u've changed it :)
Okay back to the topic
Last match VfB Stuttgart 3 Karlsruhe 1.

So Stuttgart is still keeping the UEFA Cup spot place for next season. Hopefully they will keep it that way and not drop another place in the bundesliga standing.

[Xizor]

What place are they in on the overall standings?

[BavarianRed]

VfB Stuttgart is Currently sitting 8th in the bundesliga standings with 31 points......... hey dont hate on bayern.... its ok to be jelious :smoking:

[Xizor]

Alright, thanks man! And no one is jelouse dude!

[BavarianRed]

ok good!! :lol:

[BavarianRed]

Bad news for Stuttgart fans
Hamburg (dpa) - the German soccer-master VfB Stuttgart quarterfinal of the DFB-cup is failed in that surprisingly due to the second-division team of FC Carl Zeiss Jena. The outsider won before only 18,500 spectators in Stuttgart after eleven meter ski meal 7:6 (2:2, 1:1, 1:0).

In the cup-sensation in Stuttgart, Tobias Werner (32. had brought) Jena first of all in leadership before Mario Gomez (81./94 turned.) first of all the game for the benefit of the German master. Andreas Werner (120.+1) yet yet the Jena balance, Torsten Ziegner succeeded changed the decisive punishment push for Carl Zeiss. Stuttgart Antonia there Silva had shot its eleven meter over the gate. :smoking::smoking::smoking:

[Xizor]

:sad:

[emode]

^Haha at xizor

Good game for stuttgart this week....they beat Werder Bremen 6:3. It's a good start hopefully they will continue paying better till the end of the bundesliga season :)

[BavarianRed]

well done stuttgart for owning bremen 6-3 it helped bayern a lot :)
now were 7 points on top bayernnnnnnn bayernnnnnnnnn
this title is gonna be for the best keeper KAHN!!!!! :)

[Xizor]

We won 4-1 on Saturday! :happy:

That's a little mean don't you think emode? =(

[emode]

Wht?

Haha yeah stuttgart is doing better they are currently sixth in the bundesliga standing ;)

[Xizor]

You were laughing at me 'cause Stuttgart lost!

[emode]

Haha that was long time ago ..... i didn't know you are that sensitive. I'm sorry honey :p

N-way i'm glad to see they doing better esp this week with 4 goals nonetheless!!

[BavarianRed]

You were laughing at me 'cause Stuttgart lost!

Yeah man 4-1 Sttugart is getting back in form man, i gatta give them respect since they were the first team to defeat bayern 3-1 and like most people say it was luck, srry but it wasn't Stuttgart can be a very good team when they want to be iv seen a lot of there games this season, and man they have a lot of talented players that step up there game, Stuttgart were champions last year and they desired it last year why? well because they were always on top of dere game and come up on top of the league......

[Xizor]

Haha that was long time ago ..... i didn't know you are that sensitive. I'm sorry honey :p

N-way i'm glad to see they doing better esp this week with 4 goals nonetheless!!

I'm very sensitive but I'm better now, kind of!

[emode]

Only Kind of???? haha Okay :)

N-way next Stuttgart game will be against Hannover 96 on sunday 30th.March. It should be an easy win for them or maybe a draw!!

[BavarianRed]

psh not even they wont draw with hannover 96 thats pathetic, i say 2-0 for Stuttgart.........

[Xizor]

Only Kind of???? haha Okay :)

N-way next Stuttgart game will be against Hannover 96 on sunday 30th.March. It should be an easy win for them or maybe a draw!!

Yeah, I'm sensitive remember? :yo:

[Flori64]

^Haha at xizor

Good game for stuttgart this week....they beat Werder Bremen 6:3. It's a good start hopefully they will continue paying better till the end of the bundesliga season :)

Don't verget to mention that Werder only had a 40 hour break after the
last Uefa Cup game, normaly this is not aloud in the bundesliga. This Year it
was the first time and Stuttgart had this advantage 3 times, this is not regular. Also against Bayern stuttgart had this advantage.....:mad2:

[emode]

Don't verget to mention that Werder only had a 40 hour break after the
last Uefa Cup game, normaly this is not aloud in the bundesliga. This Year it
was the first time and Stuttgart had this advantage 3 times, this is not regular. Also against Bayern stuttgart had this advantage.....:mad2:
Wht? Are you Werder Bremen fan? I'm sorry they lost but letting 6 goals was a bit much even if the players were tired after the UEFA Cup game!! :)

[Xizor]

You guys will lose!

[emode]

^Who?? Bayern Munchen? No way lol!!! We are leading the bundesliga standing at the moment!! :p

[BavarianRed]

^Who?? Bayern Munchen? No way lol!!! We are leading the bundesliga standing at the moment!! :p

never say Bayern will win the bundesliga for sure anything is possible, but i certain hope the title is ours this year, Hamburg is right beyone bayern and there making a push towards the title...

[newcastlefan000]

Bayern will win it no doubt. Hamit Altintop is injured for the rest of the season :( he was one of Bayern's finest... but oh well, Bayern will find a way to play without him

[grünweißschwarz]

Of course Bayern will win. Even the TV stations have accepted that.
The VfB Stuttgart has a chance to get into the UEFA-Cup but they need a piece of luck.

[SiN]

Ive always liked the underdog :p

I hope Stuttgart can get some points here, do you think Yildiray Basturk will play??

[BavarianRed]

Ive always liked the underdog :p

I hope Stuttgart can get some points here, do you think Yildiray Basturk will play??

he will most likely play, im not really sure though........

[SiN]

He has been unable to play for the Turkish NT due to injuries for the past few years, i think he has recently been able to start playing, he needs more game time so im hoping he plays for stuggart against munchen, these types of matches will get him back to his best.

[BavarianRed]

He has been unable to play for the Turkish NT due to injuries for the past few years, i think he has recently been able to start playing, he needs more game time so im hoping he plays for stuggart against munchen, these types of matches will get him back to his best.

yup your rite, hes been suffering from injuries which really sucks for him because hes been unable to play for stuttgart, if he plays against bayern im hopping bayern dont get owned up again :)

[newcastlefan000]

Basturk is one hell of a player. He's really good for both Stuttgart and Turkey.

[SiN]

He is fast too, he is short and can run in and out of players haha

[newcastlefan000]

Who is better, him or Hamit??

[SiN]

Wow hard question. I would have to say Basturk.

[BavarianRed]

Wow hard question. I would have to say Basturk.

Yea i think your rite Basturk will be better, but Hamit altintop hes been in top form for bayern Fc always scores those long range shots and showing people what he can do when he learns from ribery and the rest of the top class players, when ribery is there altintop will always get opportunity's to score, the germans are making him a world class player, it sucks that he will miss euro 2008, because hes been really good lately, always making good passes, and never selfish, i really like how he has contributed to bayern........

[Xizor]

^Who?? Bayern Munchen? No way lol!!! We are leading the bundesliga standing at the moment!! :p

And?

[newcastlefan000]

I think Altintop is slightly better than Basturk. This guy always starts for Bayern and he is one of their finest. He assists in such fashion, scores in such fashion, can dribble solo goals from half of the field, can be lazy and stop running and shoot on top corner of the goal whenever he wants to, etc.

[cartel]

It looks like Jan Simak will return again in the Bundesliga.

He is on the spot of Stuttgart, with high possibilty this deal is going on. At the moment he is playing for Carl Zeiss Jena.

Would be nice to see him back, good one! :star:

[Xizor]

Who does Stuttgart play next?

[newcastlefan000]

^ themselves lol... practice game

OH! you meant the Bundesliga! oh I don't know that man

[BavarianRed]

Who does Stuttgart play next?


Stuttgart plays Hamburg on Saturday it will be a very tough match for Stuttgart but i believe it will be 2-1 for Hamburg..........

[Xizor]

I'll be sure to watch this game, Ricardo and Pavel are sure to start!

[emode]

Stuttgart plays Hamburg on Saturday it will be a very tough match for Stuttgart but i believe it will be 2-1 for Hamburg..........
Well stuttgart won 1:0 over Hamburg with a goal from Hilbert!!! There's no threat from Hamburg or Stuttgart anymore for bayern but it's good to see Stuttgart doing better. They are currently fifth in the standing. If they keep it that way at least we will see them in the UEFA cup next season!!

[Xizor]

That's good but we are way better then that, I guess wining the Bundesliga really got to the players in the off-season!

[emode]

That's good but we are way better then that, I guess wining the Bundesliga really got to the players in the off-season!

The only reason they won last season was because bayern was really having a hard time and struggling. Once bayern on top form again it's hard for other club to win the bundesliga. But bayern certainly can afford the top players unlike other clubs such as stuggart who cannot afford to buy expensive players. So i think they did good considering......

N-way stuttgart is in the process of buying two midfielders Carl-Zeiss Jena & Martin Lanig. They both played for the 2nd. division clubs.

[Xizor]

Well what makes you so certain Bayern would of taken the league regardless?

[emode]

Well there's only 7 games left in the bundesliga and bayern is leading with 9 points ....it's hard not to be optimistic abt it at the moment ;)

[BavarianRed]

Well there's only 7 games left in the bundesliga and bayern is leading with 9 points ....it's hard not to be optimistic abt it at the moment ;)

People get there hopes up to high these days, lets no forget what happened to bayern last season, thats right they finished 4th when probably more than half of the bayern supporters were saying there gonna win it, never say that bayern will win it until it actually happens, there title is not certain yet, theres still 9 games left and second place Schalke i think it is, could easily catch up with a couple of wins, with bayern dropping.....

[emode]

^What are you talking abt??? There's only 7 games left in the bundesliga not 9.

Well, anyway let's stay in topic and talk about stuttgart here :)


Stuttgart put 50mil-euro price tag on Gomez

BERLIN:
Germany striker Mario Gomez now has a 50mil-euro (US$78mil) price tag as VfB Stuttgart bosses show their determination to keep their hot-shot striker.

The 22-year-old is under contract until June 2012, but both Spanish giants Barcelona and Real Madrid have expressed an interest and the defending Bundesliga champions want to keep their goal-machine for as long as possible.

It would be a new Bundesliga record if either Spanish side pay such a high fee for Gomez and the 50mil-euro figure is more than triple his 16mil-euro market value at the start of the season.

[BavarianRed]

^What are you talking abt??? There's only 7 games left in the bundesliga not 9.

Well, anyway let's stay in topic and talk about stuttgart here :)

what ever same thing 7 games, 9 games i just guessed lol, anyways it can only take a couple of games for stuttgart to get back to being at least 3rd in the bundesliga, last season they dominated bayern and all the other big clubs in the bundesliga Big Time, and it wasnt a fluke win for Stuttgart because last season they were really strong and came out on fire, but this season its a shaky one since there sitting 5th in the bundesliga right now but they do have a chance to make it to 2nd place because there only 3 points behind schalke for 2nd place and anything can happen from now on until the season ends......

[emode]

Yeah i have to agree if stuttgart keep it up they may be able to end at least 3rd. in the bundesliga standing. They were struggling so much in the early stage but things are looking up for them now. Their striker Gomez is currently out on injury. They will be meeting bayern by the end of this month.

[Xizor]

Well there's only 7 games left in the bundesliga and bayern is leading with 9 points ....it's hard not to be optimistic abt it at the moment ;)

Not right now but before the season started?

[emode]

Not right now but before the season started?
Huh? Wht do you mean? Before the season started it's pretty hard to tell :)

[Xizor]

Well that was my question to your answer!

[SiN]

The midfielder Lanig Martin (23) signed today a contract that will bind him with Stuttgart until June 30, 2011.

[Xizor]

I wish Stuttgart signed Obafemi Martins, we need a quick striker like him!

[emode]

^Who's Obafemi Martins??
Yeh stuttgart needs another good striker ....they already have Mario Gomez but they need another backup esp since Gomez are quite prone to injury.

[BavarianRed]

^Who's Obafemi Martins??
Yeh stuttgart needs another good striker ....they already have Mario Gomez but they need another backup esp since Gomez are quite prone to injury.

lol whos Obafemi Martins what soccer do you watch hahah, Obafemi Martins is a nigerian born striker who plays for Newcastle in the Epl (also plays striker for Newcastle, i wish he would come to sttutgart it would help out mario gomez up front because hes very quick and knows when to shoot and pass.... smart player...

[Lance Knight]

well cassano is on the market too, as his loan spell is up and real looking to sell him outright now

[emode]

Is he any good?? but i don't think stuttgart is buying any new strikers soon. I never seen stuttgart spending serious money to buy players. Not every clubs are like bayern. Well anyway the next stuttgart game is against bayern this weekend. Bayern!! :cheer:

[BavarianRed]

i think Stuttgart will win 2-1 on Sunday.....

[Lance Knight]

damn i cant see this game

hey anyone know any free streamin sites??

[Xizor]

^Who's Obafemi Martins??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Obafemi_Martins

[Flori64]

i think Stuttgart will win 2-1 on Sunday.....

quite wrong man :D, bayern was not that good as the result seems (4:1),
but Stuttgart was disapointing, i mean Bayern had enough points
for the title and stuttgart was heading vor CL qualifikation, so Stuttgart
should have been an agressive team........... But without meira, hitzelsberger and osori , the Team had no stabilty :evil:


Now they are talking about the Goalkeeper again, poor Schäfer, i think the will send him home, to nürnberg.

[SiN]

Carl Zeiss Jena has announced that 29 year old midfielder Jan Simak has been engaged by Stuttgart.

[emode]

quite wrong man :D, bayern was not that good as the result seems (4:1),
but Stuttgart was disapointing, i mean Bayern had enough points
for the title and stuttgart was heading vor CL qualifikation, so Stuttgart
should have been an agressive team........... But without meira, hitzelsberger and osori , the Team had no stabilty :evil:


Now they are talking about the Goalkeeper again, poor Schäfer, i think the will send him home, to nürnberg.

I still think Stuttgart shouldn't have let Timo Hilderbrandt transferred to Valencia last year. This new keeper is nothing like him at all.

[Xizor]

Obviously not but it's not just the keeper, I think winning last season got to them this season, to much partying I guess! :smoking:

[cartel]

Carl Zeiss Jena has announced that 29 year old midfielder Jan Simak has been engaged by Stuttgart.

nice transfer, but Simak got a rupture and is missing unless the end of the season for Carl Zeiss Jena.

[SiN]

To replace Mario Gomez, Stuttgart are thinking of Liverpool 28 year old striker Andrij Voronin

[Lance Knight]

voronin would be a good fit indeed he is well suited for them

[emode]

Ohhh stuttgart is apparently getting a new keeper to replace that good for nothing Raphael Schafer (their current goalie).

Arsenal goalkeeper Jens Lehmann is said on the brink of signing for Stuttgart after meeting with club officials on Monday morning. This is going to be interesting esp since Lehmann has always been one of the best German keeper!! Good luck to stuttgart ...wow if lehmann going to transfer to stuttgart now bayern really need to be careful next season.

[SiN]

Stoccarda wants to engage before Euro 2008 the goalkeeper Jens Lehmann (38). Jens is ready to leave Arsenal and sign a two years contract with Stoccarda.

[Xizor]

Ohhh stuttgart is apparently getting a new keeper to replace that good for nothing Raphael Schafer (their current goalie).

Arsenal goalkeeper Jens Lehmann is said on the brink of signing for Stuttgart after meeting with club officials on Monday morning. This is going to be interesting esp since Lehmann has always been one of the best German keeper!! Good luck to stuttgart ...wow if lehmann going to transfer to stuttgart now bayern really need to be careful next season.

That's tight!