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poutismalakas
09-20-2006, 04:24 PM
Chavez calls Bush 'devil' in U.N. speech
POSTED: 12:02 p.m. EDT, September 20, 2006

UNITED NATIONS (AP) -- Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez took his verbal battle with the United States to the floor of the U.N. General Assembly on Wednesday, calling President Bush "the devil."

"The devil came here yesterday," Chavez said. "He came here talking as if he were the owner of the world."

The leftist leader, who joined Iran last week in an alliance against U.S. influence, accused Washington of "domination, exploitation and pillage of peoples of the world."

"We appeal to the people of the United States and the world to halt this threat, which is like a sword hanging over our head," he said.

He also said the United Nations in its current system "doesn't work" and is "antidemocratic."

Chavez called for reform, saying the U.S. government's "immoral veto" had allowed recent Israeli bombings of Lebanon to continue unabated for more than a month.

"Venezuela once again proposes today that we reform the United Nations," he said.

Chavez lambasted Washington for trying to block Venezuela's campaign for a rotating seat on the U.N. Security Council. He said if chosen over U.S.-favorite Guatemala in a secret-ballot U.N. vote next month, Venezuela would be "the voice of the Third World."

The U.S. government warns that Chavez, a close ally of Iran, Syria and Cuba, would be a disruptive force on the council.

Copyright 2006 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed

Lance Knight
09-20-2006, 09:11 PM
hahahahaa
well i am glad that iran and venezula are standing up to america, this whole war shit was just to get the oil money,
come on food for oil, think about it how much food could u get with 100million barrels of oil a day???????

poutismalakas
09-20-2006, 09:20 PM
All I have to say is that Iran and Chavez ARE LUCKY I'm not the US Persident. Cause if I was I would release about 150 million barrels from the US Strategic reserve to FLOOD the oil market drop the price of oil by at least $20 just to mess up Chavez's reelection bid and Iran's ecomonic capiblity to prochase the tech they need to complete their nuclear dreams!

Fenerliyim
09-20-2006, 09:22 PM
lol its the people controlling bush who r the devils

Cell
09-20-2006, 10:18 PM
If Iran & Syria are backed by Venezuela's oil money then Washington has a big problem. Not to mention the lingering foe called Cuba.

ItalianBoy
09-20-2006, 10:43 PM
You guys do realize that both Chavez and the Iranian President are pretty much dictators right? So, standing up to America? How? Venezuela has Chavez, who is a communist dictator, wow, very reliable source and Iran has the oil which we pay so they eat. I think some of you guys have the distorted version of facts. I don't think anybody ever thought that we were going to Iraq solely to kill terrorist, but you know, people in the West need to realize that if they want to live how we do... it comes to a price. You don't wanna pay that price, then live how they live in Africa. That'll teach you.

Sirhail
09-20-2006, 11:07 PM
yeah but bush is an idiot

ItalianBoy
09-21-2006, 10:21 AM
Same could be said for your Turkey President or many others for that matter.

Sirhail
09-21-2006, 10:24 AM
my turkey president?????

ItalianBoy
09-21-2006, 10:41 AM
Don't ask why, I thought you were sin!.. sorry.

ARBERIA
09-21-2006, 10:48 AM
Don't ask why, I thought you were sin!.. sorry.

haha dont mind him IB he is a troll :lol:

PAO_HELLAS
09-21-2006, 10:53 AM
lol its the people controlling bush who r the devils

I agree, Bush has too low intelligence for being a devil.

ARBERIA
09-21-2006, 10:55 AM
WTF :faint2:

BlueArsedFly
09-21-2006, 12:18 PM
amazing how many people say they hate bush for standing up to islamic terrorism- especially those in the west- i would love to see them deported to iran so they could live wonderful lives there. Im sure they would jump at the opportunity.

And where do muslims run to when they want to leave their countries? To their neighbour muslim countries? Hell no- they travel half away cross the world to america & western europe :lol:

Sirhail
09-21-2006, 12:39 PM
haha dont mind him IB he is a troll :lol:

?? u talkin about sin

bosniak fighter
09-21-2006, 07:36 PM
Yes The Americans Have Competition Now It Is Like A Start Of A New Cold War Go On Iran And Venezuala And Ahmedjinaded And Chavez Are 2 Democraticly Elected Presidents Who Are Standing Up To The Americans Who Think They Own The World Well They Got Competition Now And They Better Stop Crying About It

nachi88
09-21-2006, 09:00 PM
If Iran & Syria are backed by Venezuela's oil money then Washington has a big problem. Not to mention the lingering foe called Cuba.
That kind of stuff happens only in Tom Clancy novels. Why would Venezuela and Iran come together? The only two things they have in common are
1) The leadership ( not people necessarily) are anti-American.
2) Both are members of OPEC, and would want to control the oil production, so they can hoard oil,and later sell at a higher price.

The US would never let the Iranians open military bases in Venezuela. This is just speculation.

Cell
09-21-2006, 09:04 PM
Venezuela can give money to Iran from their massive oil funds. :D

poutismalakas
09-22-2006, 12:06 AM
LOOK Chavez has dellusions of being this Great leader of the nonaligned alliance. As SOON as Oil drops back down to 40 dollars he'll shitting his pants cause his people will be pissed at him for running around like this big Robin Hood pissing their wealth away when he SHOULD have been using the $$ for his countries econonmy and not his Dellusions

Lance Knight
09-22-2006, 07:49 PM
All I have to say is that Iran and Chavez ARE LUCKY I'm not the US Persident. Cause if I was I would release about 150 million barrels from the US Strategic reserve to FLOOD the oil market drop the price of oil by at least $20 just to mess up Chavez's reelection bid and Iran's ecomonic capiblity to prochase the tech they need to complete their nuclear dreams!
sorry but that doesnt make much sense
the biggest fear america has now is if countries switch thier reserves from US dollars to the Euro dollar,
plus flooding the oil market can be done by iran themselves and that is the threat the middle east had that started the first invasion by daddy bush into iraq

Saraj Fanático
09-22-2006, 09:52 PM
All I have to say is that Iran and Chavez ARE LUCKY I'm not the US Persident. Cause if I was I would release about 150 million barrels from the US Strategic reserve to FLOOD the oil market drop the price of oil by at least $20 just to mess up Chavez's reelection bid and Iran's ecomonic capiblity to prochase the tech they need to complete their nuclear dreams!


Yeah and then iran can shut the oil on Europe and the US causing extreme damage. AND they can arm the Insurgency to the teeth in iraq. Then what will happen to the US?

The USA has to be more careful then Iran.

Saraj Fanático
09-22-2006, 09:55 PM
You guys do realize that both Chavez and the Iranian President are pretty much dictators right? So, standing up to America? How? Venezuela has Chavez, who is a communist dictator, wow, very reliable source and Iran has the oil which we pay so they eat. I think some of you guys have the distorted version of facts. I don't think anybody ever thought that we were going to Iraq solely to kill terrorist, but you know, people in the West need to realize that if they want to live how we do... it comes to a price. You don't wanna pay that price, then live how they live in Africa. That'll teach you.


What price? Killing over 30,000 Iraqis and then saying you are doing it in the name of Christ, God and Freedom?

If the US wants to live like Sweden for Example they should stop sticking their noses in dirty business and end theis World policemen crap.

Ero
09-22-2006, 10:07 PM
Yeah and then iran can shut the oil on Europe and the US causing extreme damage. AND they can arm the Insurgency to the teeth in iraq. Then what will happen to the US?

The USA has to be more careful then Iran.
the majority of oil that's bought by the USA is from Canada not iran or the middle east...... USA would do fine without irans oil!

poutismalakas
09-22-2006, 10:12 PM
Fc Iran is not as tuff as you think! THE ONLY reason WHy the US hasn't gone in Iran IS France, Russia and China PERIOD!

Sicilian
09-23-2006, 01:18 AM
What price? Killing over 30,000 Iraqis and then saying you are doing it in the name of Christ, God and Freedom?

If the US wants to live like Sweden for Example they should stop sticking their noses in dirty business and end theis World policemen crap.

Once again i am going to ask you to back up what you say, not an unreasonable request i think.

When has USA ever said that we are in Iraq because of Christ or God? Please i am curious to know where you are getting your "facts".

And we do not really want to live like Sweden, they have a lot of positive aspects to their country, but many negatives as well. Besides we could not no matter what, Sweden is low population and very homogenous, USA is the exact opposite, and for other reasons as well it would just not work, at least in the forseeable future.

Saraj Fanático
09-23-2006, 04:07 AM
the majority of oil that's bought by the USA is from Canada not iran or the middle east...... USA would do fine without irans oil!


lol! That was funny. Saudi Arabia, Iraq (Blood for oil), and iran are the top nations of oil. Why does the US spend so much money in companies in Saudi Arabia working with oil. The US attacked iraq for Oil and they and the Royal Family both are working with oil everyday. Without the Middle Eastern Oil this world would shut off completly. Saudi Arabia has the most oil of all Take a look. Majority of oil is from Iraq, Saudi Arabia, UAE, and Iran. Not canada at all, they have no major companies with the US unlike the Middle Easterners do.

http://www1.eere.energy.gov/vehiclesandfuels/images/facts/fotw117.gif

The US needs the MIddle East and so does the entire world except Canada, Libya, Venezuela, Russia and Nigeria, But Europe would sink without the Middle East, and so would the US.

Canada has oil but not enough to feed the US nor Europe. You know that.

Saraj Fanático
09-23-2006, 04:11 AM
Once again i am going to ask you to back up what you say, not an unreasonable request i think.

When has USA ever said that we are in Iraq because of Christ or God? Please i am curious to know where you are getting your "facts".

And we do not really want to live like Sweden, they have a lot of positive aspects to their country, but many negatives as well. Besides we could not no matter what, Sweden is low population and very homogenous, USA is the exact opposite, and for other reasons as well it would just not work, at least in the forseeable future.


Bush clearly said that 'God' told him to go into Iraq. He also called the killings of over 35,000 people a struggle for freedom, the mission name says it all 'Operation: Iraqi freedom'. I am sure the Iraqis enjoy living under the gun and under occupation whie the US continues its Blood for Oil compaign.

Sweden at least doesnt live in fear everyday with fake Al Qaeda messages poping up scaring their nation and people.

Saraj Fanático
09-23-2006, 04:16 AM
Fc Iran is not as tuff as you think! THE ONLY reason WHy the US hasn't gone in Iran IS France, Russia and China PERIOD!


The only reson the USA is not in Iran is because they failed in Iraq with countless number of people getting blown up and US troops still dying for crap. And offcourse the US people going crazy. If Iran is attacked then the US plan for the 'Greater' Middle East is down the toilet (Not saying it isnt already). Iran can spark a 3rd World War very easily. They have the military to do so and their technology is far greater then Saddam ever dreamed of.

So yes the US should be the ones watching their step on this one. They cant always be the policemen! :D

Ero
09-23-2006, 09:54 AM
@FC. Sarajevo

http://www.infoplease.com/ipa/A0872964.html

http://www.cbc.ca/story/canada/national/2006/01/11/canadian-oil060111.html

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g140/ustasa34/oilreserves.jpg
:smoking:

why would america risk getting all their oil from half way across the wrold from a hostile region when they can get it from a freindly and close country?