Truth About Islam

[Bosanac]

Islam means "submission to the Will Of God." In its ethical sense Islam signifies "strifing after the ideal." A muslim is one who submits to the Will of God. "Islam" and "Muslim" derive from the same word as the Arabic for "peace." The traditional Muslim greeting is "Peace be unto you."

Islam offers hope for salvation to the righteous and God-fearing of all religions. Muslims believe in the Divine Revelations of many prophets including Abraham, Moses, Jesus, Mohammed, but do not believe that God assumed human form. The Quran, Muslims believe, is God's Word and Final Revelation to Prophet Mohammed. Revealed over a period of twenty-three years, The Quran was compiled and distributed to distant lands within twenty-five years of The Prophet's death in 632 A.D. This is the only Quran recognized by Muslims.

Compromising laws, moral precepts, and narratives, The Quran's timeless text remains an inspiration and guide for more than one fifth of humanity. Together with The Quran, the epitome of Classical Arabic, Muslims lives are guided by the examples and sayings of The Prophet. Some are accepted as authentic; some are traced to The Prophet's companions; some are the subject of debate. Some examples at right.

Islamic Law is based upon The Quran, examples and sayings of The Prophet, consensus among the learned, analogical deduction, and individual reasoning. Islamic society comes closer than any other society to the ideal democracy. All persons are equal before God; goodness is the only criterion of worth. There is no priesthood in Islam; even a child, with greater knowledge of The Quran than his elders, may lead them in prayer.

To become a Muslim one need only profess, "There is no god but God; Muhammad is the Messenger of God."


The Truth About Islam


The first thing created by God was the intellect
The most excellent Jihad is that for the conquest of self
The ink of the scholar is more holy than the blood of the martyr
One learned man is harder on the devil than a thousand ignorant worshippers
Reflect upon God's creation but not on His nature or else you will perish
He who wishes to enter Paradise at the best door must please his mother and father
No man is a true believer unless he desires for his brother that which he desires for himself
When the bier of anyone passes by you, whether Jew, Christian, or Muslim, rise your feet
The thing which is awful, but disliked by God, is divorce
Modesty and chastity are parts of the Faith
Heaven lies at the feet of our mothers
Women are twin halves of men
Actions will be judged according to intentions
That which is lawful is clear, and which is unlawful likewise, but there are certain doubtful things between the two from which it is well to abstain
The proof of a Muslim's sincerity is that he pays no attention to that which is not his business
That person nearest to God, who pardons...him who would have injured him
Yield obedience to my successor, although he may be an Abyssinian slave
Assist any person opressed, whether Muslim or non-Muslim
The creation is like God's family..the most beloved unto God is the person who does good to God's family

[Fenerliyim]

good post did u write it

[Bosanac]

good post did u write it


No, wish I did

[Bosanac]

I found this website called The Wisdom Fund (Ironically, my signature has the word 'wisdom' in it :)) and it's mission is to teach people truth about Islam, especially to ones who are curious and skeptical about the religion as well as open minded. I have found after a while that many ideas that I have shared here in this forum are in that website as well.

It stays updated, so you can always go and see what the Muslim World in USA has to say about the current events.

Address is, http://www.twf.org

[Fenerliyim]

its good to see u r trying to teach other people but r u trying to be a better religious person?

[ulster21]

Actions Speak Louder Than Words!!

[Bosanac]

its good to see u r trying to teach other people but r u trying to be a better religious person?


I am a lost cause, my friend

[ulster21]

I am a lost cause, my friend

You ever look into the straight edge movement, it may be good for a person like you??

Also, aren't people like you perfect candidates for becoming a suicide bomber??

[Bosanac]

You ever look into the straight edge movement, it may be good for a person like you??

Also, aren't people like you perfect candidates for becoming a suicide bomber??


Oh man, stop before you go on. I am not in the mood to be trolled, again

[())__Green__))>]

You ever look into the straight edge movement, it may be good for a person like you??

Also, aren't people like you perfect candidates for becoming a suicide bomber??
ulster, stfu man
if you got something against muslims
then ***king join the american army and go over there and do something about it
and not talk your bullshit propaganda over internet
until then shut your mouth man
im tired of hearing your crap about muslims and how bad we are
"Actions Speak Louder Than Words" :thumbsdow

[femi_6]

lets live in love and acceptance yall

[ItalianBoy]

ulster, stfu man
if you got something against muslims
then ***king join the american army and go over there and do something about it
and not talk your bullshit propaganda over internet
until then shut your mouth man
im tired of hearing your crap about muslims and how bad we are
"Actions Speak Louder Than Words" :thumbsdow

Listen to this idiot. Bosnian Unit and bosanacc spread MUSLIMS VIEWS all over the board to the point they became SPAMMERS and now WE are the ones who talk propaganda? This is why we the FREE WORLD are fighting you.

Hopefully, soon we wont read these...posts... and there will be simply jokes on you guys. Somebody close the threads where HATE against the FREE WORLD IS SPREAD or I will start opening threads about WHAT I THINK!

[Bosanac]

What's wrong with Muslim views? Are you racist?

[Sicilian]

Nice first post, that is how Islam should be viewed. Unfortunately it is used just as often as a way of convincing people to strap a bomb to their chest and blow up a bunch of innocent people. I wish all muslims looked at their religion the way the first post described maybe then we would have a bit mroe peace.

[ItalianBoy]

One thing is being a muslim and one thing is for you and Bosnian Unit to SPAM. Get it? And I am atheist so I simply do not tolerate any religion.

[Bosanac]

One thing is being a muslim and one thing is for you and Bosnian Unit to SPAM. Get it? And I am atheist so I simply do not tolerate any religion.


Would you react the same way if a thread called 'Truth About Christianity' was created? I don't think so.

If you're an atheist, than you obviously have some hate towards Islam.

[ItalianBoy]

If I am an atheist, dumbass, I have a "hate" towards any religion. So I don't see why you are making a difference. Yes, I would do the same thing. Unlike you I am smart and true to my actions, not a liar retard like you.

[Bosanac]

If I am an atheist, dumbass, I have a "hate" towards any religion. So I don't see why you are making a difference. Yes, I would do the same thing. Unlike you I am smart and true to my actions, not a liar retard like you.


Don't spread your hate towards religion!

[poutismalakas]

If I am an atheist, dumbass, I have a "hate" towards any religion. So I don't see why you are making a difference. Yes, I would do the same thing. Unlike you I am smart and true to my actions, not a liar retard like you.
CALM DOWN PLEASE!!!!

[())__Green__))>]

dude..
ItalianBoy
wtf you want us to do
we are getting attacked from all sides
and being called bad stuff
and people were saying stuff about my religion..
there was a guy that i know bosnian guy..
he wore his moonstar and this serb said for him to take it off
so let me get it straight.. A MUSLIM CAN'T WEAR HIS MOONSTAR AND EXPRESS HIS LOVE FOR THE RELIGION HE BELIEVES IN
BUT A ORTHODOX SERB CAN WEAR A ORTHODOX CROSS AND EXPRESS HIMSELF
seems very biased to me...
this is what i mean,
there are too many ppl like you out there
giving a bad name to Islam

[poutismalakas]

Guys Relax!!! Please :)

[ItalianBoy]

Don't spread your hate towards religion!
Hypocrit, I am not the one bombing for allah, you are...dumbass.

[ItalianBoy]

dude..
ItalianBoy
wtf you want us to do
we are getting attacked from all sides
and being called bad stuff
and people were saying stuff about my religion..
there was a guy that i know bosnian guy..
he wore his moonstar and this serb said for him to take it off
so let me get it straight.. A MUSLIM CAN'T WEAR HIS MOONSTAR AND EXPRESS HIS LOVE FOR THE RELIGION HE BELIEVES IN
BUT A ORTHODOX SERB CAN WEAR A ORTHODOX CROSS AND EXPRESS HIMSELF
seems very biased to me...
this is what i mean,
there are too many ppl like you out there
giving a bad name to Islam

:lol:

Bad name? Stop exploding!

[())__Green__))>]

well if you're an athiest
dont talk in a muslim thread
we don't need to hear your biased beliefs
and very insulting comments

[ItalianBoy]

well if you're an athiest
dont talk in a muslim thread
we don't need to hear your biased beliefs
and very insulting comments

Well then, why did bosanacc post back at me trolling in the immigration thread?

[())__Green__))>]

well i dont know dude..
i dont spy on him, im not a creeper what he does
if he did something to you, then have a talk with him..
and not bring up religion.. islam into this

[ItalianBoy]

I did not, he did.

And if that Serb was ***king with you and calling bad names, just ***king kick his ass man. ;)

[())__Green__))>]

^nahh man
it wasn't me
it was another bosnian guy i know of here

[Ero]

Actions Speak Louder Than Words!!

exactly! muslims were burning pictures and dolls of Pope benedict in their riots against his words now imagine what would happen if christians set a picture of muhamed on fire :faint2:

why is it okay for muslims to insult other peoples religions but it's not okay to insult there religion? :rolleyes:

now lets stop with this islam vs christianity shit!

[())__Green__))>]

^not exactly
pope dissed us first
obviously we wont take it
and denmark drew pictures of muhammad of getting bombed and stuff
so why u think we do the same??

[Ero]

did you see the pictures they drew in the cartoon? because i did and they are not something that should cause people to destroy and burn down everything in sight!

the Pope quoted someone! and then muslims start burning pictures of him, WTF? Catholics didnt burn pictures of muhamed or muslim flags when they saw what muslims were doing to vatican flags and pictures of the Pope!

[caruiz93]

but dude who will belive this islam mumbo jumbo if they keep spreading jihad everywhere.

look at what happened witht the pope.he said that muslims were violeent or something like that and they get pissed off so they go kill a noon in africa.

[Ero]

if the Pope said they are a violent people than the muslims proved his point with their reactions!

i'm sorry if i have offended any muslims but if you diss my religion i will not just stand by and let you :mad2:

[())__Green__))>]

^yah
and you think i will stand and let someone diss my religion??
yes i admit there are some stupid muslims out there
BUT WHY DO U BELIEVE WE ARE ALL LIKE THAT??
WE ARE NOT ALL TERRORISTS

[caruiz93]

lol,what some musilims are doing is hilarious.

the pope says something bad about them being violent and to prove they arent violent some muslims go and kill a noon and burn dolls and shit. lol

im not saying all msulims are bad.

[())__Green__))>]

stfu caruiz93
you say "muslims" as ALL of us 100% population
thats my proof of what i was trying to explain
when 1 guy does something
in your point of view = 100% of muslims behind him
well you know that its actually conspiracy and propaganda by american govt too.. why they attack iraq, why they attack weaker countries and take it over and put bases in there??
that is why we are furious, cuz people are attacking us and no one stands to help us out
did anyone stand on our side when America attacked us cuz of "weapons of mass destruction" aka OIL..
HELL NO!! thats why muslims stick together
and im sure its not "they are violent"
he probably said some other shit too, obviously saying muslims are violent and the islam religion is bad is very offensive..
when you got like the whole world hatting on you, then ***king come back and talk on this thread
you seriously don't know what we are going through, we have to like ***king hide our identity cuz if u say ur a muslim then every asshole will think of u as a bad person or terrorist like all of u are right now

[Ero]

muslims are violently rioting because the pope said they are violent :lol: does that make sense to you or anyone?

btw here are the cartoons that made the islamic world go insane:

http://i55.photobucket.com/albums/g140/ustasa34/facesgallery.jpg

[())__Green__))>]

omg
ustasa now you too.. you make it seem like we are all the same
kk fine from now on
i will think of all of u like america
power hungry and only want to pick on smaller countries
sounds pretty fair to me!
and plz the pope prolly said something more
why do u think he was appologizing..
and thats pretty biased.. we say 1 thing in america about muslims a good thing and we end up in jail
man cut the bullshit
its a prejudice world and you know it!!

[())__Green__))>]

this is a 1 sided threat FULL OF PROPAGANDA AGAINST MUSLIMS
the 1st post is what we talking about
i could also make a thread about christians and catholics and the stuff they have done to us muslims.. if you want ;)

[Ero]

i could also make a thread about christians and catholics and the stuff they have done to us muslims.. if you want ;)

bosnian unit has already made a thread that is racist and insulting to christians!

[ItalianBoy]

^not exactly
pope dissed us first
obviously we wont take it
and denmark drew pictures of muhammad of getting bombed and stuff
so why u think we do the same??

Come on man, I understand you have to defend your people but not the lies. You think that reacting for some cartoon that way is cool? Its not. You know how many cartoons are drawn against the Pope? Loads, I dont see Christians around the globe rioting and burning Mosques. You have no excuse for your reactions... ever. Stop the propaganda mate.

A muslim also killed a Dutch filkmaker. The list of terrorist acts by the muslims go on for ever. You have no way of covering for all fo them. Just last month, a Pakistani father killed her own daugther for religion purposes. She was too Western in his opinion. Truly disgusting.

[ItalianBoy]

bosnian unit has already made a thread that is racist and insulting to christians!

FK, the only people doing propaganda in here is you muslims. So stop being a fake. And btw, there are threads where Bosnian Unit calls the USA Nazis. :boo:

[())__Green__))>]

yes
those are fakes muslims to me
they are the middle eastern muslims who believe that stuff...
but that is not the case for all the muslims
but yeah, when you are dissing our god and making like drawings of them and all.. thats very insulting
its not the perfect world you think it is..
in America, 1 word can end you up in jail or even dead!
same thing.. if u wanna judge muslim countries
i am telling you guys this...
the laws and stuff that is going on in most muslim countries.. i agree with you guys, i am not saying everything is right
i dont like the stuff they do to their own people
i admit it yes...
but also what america is doing to innocent children daily is also bad..

just the main thing i hate is when
someone asks me where i am from
and when i say i am bosnian.. they right away know i am muslim and think of me as a bad person.. or when you say you are a muslim.. it all leads to the same thing..
i dislike that

[())__Green__))>]

FK, the only people doing propaganda in here is you muslims. So stop being a fake. And btw, there are threads where Bosnian Unit calls the USA Nazis.
what is the difference between Nazi Germany back then..
and what America is doing now..
they both did the same thing which is attack countries and kill innocent civilians..
so what are you saying.. America is full of heroes for killing children??

[())__Green__))>]

well WHY DOESN'T THE POPE SHUT HIS MOUTH THEN!!!
IF HE NEVER SAID ANYTHING.. NOTHING LIKE THIS WOULD HAPPEN!!
jeez man, you guys are so ignorant..
anyone can say something but when they say it.. its too late
and then give us a fake appology..

just let me ask you one thing..
why is america trying to control the middle east muslim countries and why are they trying to control Iran too soon even though they got nukes??
why don't they try to take over Korea and stop their nuclear plans..

its biased man and you know it..
why attack iraq and lose a lot of men when you can focus and actual world threats like korea (who launched missiles on america day)

sorry if i have insulted anyone of you!
but this topic is very touchy, and pisses me off when people judge you..
right away!

[Ero]

in America, 1 word can end you up in jail or even dead!
same thing

WHAT??

wtf are you talking about? in the middle east and northern africa you can get killed or thrown in jail for converting to christianity or even just being a christian! look at sudan!

in America you are free to believe in any God you choose and if you dont want to believe in God thats okay too! i dont remember hearing in the news that a christian man was killed for converting to islam, do you?

[ItalianBoy]

Fk, you are a serious mental case. Not only you are ignorant as they come, but you actually belive the load of crap you spit. I can not even have a serious discussion with you because you simply won't get anything. :boo:

[())__Green__))>]

yeah thats a WONDERFUL america right
ppl with darker skin get put in jails and are questioned hours and maybe even days just for looking different!
and i heard on the news, some people are beating up and jumping dark skinned people just cuz they think they are muslims..
what an amazing country.. wowww!! i love america..
Canada is much better in this kind of stuff
just America is too biased

[())__Green__))>]

italianboy.. you just got caught on that and you know it
you are just trying to get away...
when you call muslims bad people, then why don't u call america bad for doing the crap in iraq
what are you saying
1 american soldier is worth more than 200 innocent iraqi children??

[ItalianBoy]

Just as I said above. You are mentally ill.

[Ero]

italianboy.. you just got caught on that and you know it
you are just trying to get away...
when you call muslims bad people, then why don't u call america bad for doing the crap in iraq
what are you saying
1 american soldier is worth more than 200 innocent iraqi children??


what about muslim terrorists killing over 3000 innocent people in 9/11?

so 200 iraqi civillians is worth more than 3000 innocent american civilians?

[Ivan7637]

yeah thats a WONDERFUL america right
ppl with darker skin get put in jails and are questioned hours and maybe even days just for looking different!
and i heard on the news, some people are beating up and jumping dark skinned people just cuz they think they are muslims..
what an amazing country.. wowww!! i love america..
Canada is much better in this kind of stuff
just America is too biased

You are ***ked in the head. Period.

P.S.: America Rules!!!

[caruiz93]

stfu caruiz93
you say "muslims" as ALL of us 100% population
thats my proof of what i was trying to explain
when 1 guy does something
in your point of view = 100% of muslims behind him
well you know that its actually conspiracy and propaganda by american govt too.. why they attack iraq, why they attack weaker countries and take it over and put bases in there??
that is why we are furious, cuz people are attacking us and no one stands to help us out
did anyone stand on our side when America attacked us cuz of "weapons of mass destruction" aka OIL..
HELL NO!! thats why muslims stick together
and im sure its not "they are violent"
he probably said some other shit too, obviously saying muslims are violent and the islam religion is bad is very offensive..
when you got like the whole world hatting on you, then ***king come back and talk on this thread
you seriously don't know what we are going through, we have to like ***king hide our identity cuz if u say ur a muslim then every asshole will think of u as a bad person or terrorist like all of u are right now


wtf!
sorry i didnt mean to offend you or anyone else..il go edit it.

[caruiz93]

You are ***ked in the head. Period.

P.S.: America Rules!!!


???

[manfan1523]

???
it means that he is a retard

[normthebarman]

I thought this thread was called "Truth about Islam". Namely, what is the Islamic faith, as it is meant to be practised, about. Which, as the first post states, is about peace and submission to God. Or, to put it another way, your whole life should be dedicated to God.

However, some people seem to think the thread is called "What some ars*hole muslims interpret Islam to be, is how all other muslims should be portrayed."

Should all Christians be portrayed as torturers and sadists, because the Spanish Inquisition were?

Should all Jews be portrayed as serial killers because David Berkowitz and Lori Berenson were?

I don't think so.

I've read a fair bit about Islam and consider it to be a very enlightened religion (although some things I do disagree with, but then again, I also disagree with some things from Catholocism and Protestantism and Hinduism and Buddhism and.......)

Religion is a wonderful thing. All they do is try to teach people how to live a better life. It's us f*cked up people who spoil it by taking it too far and forgeting some common sense in how it should be applied to life.

[manfan1523]

[QUOTE=normthebarman]
Should all Christians be portrayed as torturers and sadists, because the Spanish Inquisition were?

Should all Jews be portrayed as serial killers because David Berkowitz and Lori Berenson were?
[QUOTE]
yes

[normthebarman]

Manfan, should all people from Washington DC be portrayed as messed up nutjobs who snipe people from the boot of their car because John Allen Muhammad was?

[manfan1523]

im from manchester england actually, so sure they can be

[normthebarman]

im from manchester england actually, so sure they can be

Alright, should all people from Manchester be portrayed as alcoholic, arrogant wankers because the Gallagher brothers are?

[Bosnian_Hero]

[QUOTE=normthebarman]
Should all Christians be portrayed as torturers and sadists, because the Spanish Inquisition were?

Should all Jews be portrayed as serial killers because David Berkowitz and Lori Berenson were?
[QUOTE]
yes

hey manfan1523... you're from Washington D.C. , i understanf why you are so stupid :lol: :lol:

[caruiz93]

Alright, should all people from Manchester be portrayed as alcoholic, arrogant wankers because the Gallagher brothers are?


idk..its up to the people

[Bosnian_Hero]

what about terrorists killing over 3000 innocent people in 9/11?

so 200 iraqi civillians is worth more than 3000 innocent american civilians?

hey ustasa! there are 200 iraqi being killed EACH MONTH!!

and i corrected a little bit your message, cause terrorists are not muslims! :mad2:

[Sicilian]

yeah thats a WONDERFUL america right
ppl with darker skin get put in jails and are questioned hours and maybe even days just for looking different!
and i heard on the news, some people are beating up and jumping dark skinned people just cuz they think they are muslims..
what an amazing country.. wowww!! i love america..
Canada is much better in this kind of stuff
just America is too biased

Do you even realize what a hyppocrite you are being right here? You are making fun of and getting angry at people for "stereotyping" Islam and Muslims based on what they hear on the news and so on and so forth and here you go doing the EXACT SAME THING. Not sure what America you are thinking of when the "dark skinned people" are getting jumped in the streets bc they look muslim :lol: :lol: OBviously you have not been to America since 1950 or you would never make such a stupid comment:lol: :lol:

[_TURK_]

hey ustasa if you think that "muslims" killed so many people in 9/11 can you explain me why any jewish did not go to work at twin towers in 9/11 ?

islam commands muslims...

"do not hurt people"

[Ivan7637]

islam commands muslims...

"do not hurt people"

Man you guys missed that part big time.

[poutismalakas]

hey ustasa if you think that "muslims" killed so many people in 9/11 can you explain me why any jewish did not go to work at twin towers in 9/11 ?

islam commands muslims...

"do not hurt people"
That's a lie propagated by a hezbolla newspaper! Also 9/11 was during the high holy days so alot of the people of Jewish belief went to work late and ALSO OVER 400 people who died where Jewish!!!!!!

[())__Green__))>]

what about muslim terrorists killing over 3000 innocent people in 9/11?

so 200 iraqi civillians is worth more than 3000 innocent american civilians?
thats not the point dude.. you are not getting the picture
no one deserves to die.. NO ONE
NO MUSLIMS.. NO AMERICANS.. NO ONE!!
i'm just saying you guys make it seem like if its a good thing if you kill muslims.. thats all im trying to say
and yep as i can see.. you guys fall into the american propaganda
its either 2 options.. you guys are 10 year olds who have no clue wtf we are talking about and just wanna fit in.. or you are just mentally retarded and believe every word bush says..
when bush said iraq had weapons of mass destruction just to get oil.. did u believe him??
what a great leader, just cares for his own ass and his wealth over your lives!
if he is a true leader, he would be trying to stop nuclear stuff in korea rather then letting people die each day in iraq

[())__Green__))>]

im telling you guys honest to god now
they did documentaries of everything on america.. fahrenheit 9/11.. bush was in a class and someone told him the incidenet happened and he was just sitting there and doing nothing about it
just go watch some real true documentaries or w.e.
and then come back and tell us what you think

[Sandro1]

Well....

All religions in the world asks for Peace as well as Islam, christianity etc, so there shouldnt be any conflicts here

[())__Green__))>]

Well....

All religions in the world asks for Peace as well as Islam, christianity etc, so there shouldnt be any conflicts here
but noooooooooooo man...
these people are accusing us of being bad

[Ero]

hey ustasa! there are 200 iraqi being killed EACH MONTH!!

and i corrected a little bit your message, cause terrorists are not muslims! :mad2:

i am not calling muslims terrorists but those terrorists were muslim!

[Ero]

im telling you guys honest to god now
they did documentaries of everything on america.. fahrenheit 9/11.. bush was in a class and someone told him the incidenet happened and he was just sitting there and doing nothing about it
just go watch some real true documentaries or w.e.
and then come back and tell us what you think

nice job using the most biased propaganda BS movie i've ever seen as an example!

anyways what did you want him to do? he was in a class full of young children he cant just start yelling and frightening the children!

[ARBANITAI]

i am not calling muslims terrorists but those terrorists were muslim!

They cant be muslims then.. I mean if a muslim becomes terrorist then he is out of islamic religion laws then, I mean he cant be a good muslim then, after beeing a terrorist, because he did a terrible thing which is not allowed in islam..

the Quran asks for harmony and peace not war. u know what i mean

[())__Green__))>]

ustasa
remember our "should republika srpska be whipped off the map" thread
you should not judge a person by religion but if he is truly born there then he is a bosnian like fusion.. not to judge his background
this is like the same thing.. don't judge people by their religion
and ok whatever you believe is fine, i dont care but i have my beliefs
and i personally believe what America is doing is bad.. why do you think almost every country on earth hates America??
don't get me wrong.. i don't hate the civilians.. i just hate the American government
i have nothing against any religion..
i feel bad for everyone that suffered in 9/11 and the kids that are dying in Iraq/Afghanistan
no one deserves to suffer like that.. no matter what race they are

[())__Green__))>]

but its just insulting when people think of muslims as bad
sorry if i have insulted anyone.. but i just get touchy during these topics

[nachi88]

What is the point of this thread?

Why should I want to know the truth about Islam??? (if there is any truth about it, and any other religion in the first place). i wouldnt give a damn... Why should I waste my time reading the Koran or Hadith or any book??

Why should the muslims not know the truth about Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism??

More than what is written in some supposedly divine book, the image of a religion depends on its followers.

[Bosanac]

What is the point of this thread?

Why should I want to know the truth about Islam??? (if there is any truth about it, and any other religion in the first place). i wouldnt give a damn... Why should I waste my time reading the Koran or Hadith or any book??

Why should the muslims not know the truth about Christianity or Judaism or Hinduism??

More than what is written in some supposedly divine book, the image of a religion depends on its followers.


It's an informing thread, like many other. I don't understand why so many people would have problems with it, I can only assume it's because it's about Islam.

There have been so many racist, biased, and insulting comments towards Islam in the Away From Soccer forum, therefore I think it's a privilage for all to have an option (if they want) to learn about the things that they are prejudging.

Be a little open-minded and think about the real reason this thread is here. It's purpose is for good, not bad. It should not be prejudged, or looked at as a threat because that is the last thing this thread is.

[Ero]

There have been so many racist, biased, and insulting comments towards Islam in the Away From Soccer forum,

what? go check out Bunits threads and see how how much he insults christians and many other threads are racist and insulting to christians

every religion is being insulted on sfn and i think we should stop with the islam vs christianity war and get back to soccer!

[Bosanac]

what? go check out Bunits threads and see how how much he insults christians and many other threads are racist and insulting to christians


That does not give you the right to crap on my thread, I haven't insulted Christianity with this thread or any other. If you have problems with a certain individual, that is not my problem.

[BlueArsedFly]

this is the core problem as i see it

the problem is not with islam itself, the problem is why do so many followers of islam think it is ok to riot, murder, suicide bomb, hijack etc at the slightest of provocation. You cannot just say these things are against muslim teaching and therefore these people are not true muslims and so just wash your hands of them.

Something about the muslim faith or the way it is taught is making terrorists out of many, many muslims and what is being done about it? Sweet FA thats what. Why are there no sikh, hindu, buddhist,shinto etc etc terrorists ranting and raving over anything and everything, crashing civilian planes into civilian buildings, threatening to murder anyone who dares the slightest critisism of their faith?

Unless muslim leaders take responsibility and make a determined and genuine effort to stop their faith being perverted into something evil we are all in big trouble.

the british home secretary gave a speech saying muslim parents should keep a watch on their children for signs of them being radicalised and what happened?

"Reid speech disrupted by hecklers

Home Secretary John Reid has been heckled during a speech about targeting potential Muslim extremists.
He was interrupted by activist Abu Izzadeen, a Muslim, who said he was "furious" about "state terrorism by British police".

In his speech, Mr Reid asked Muslim parents to keep a close eye on their children and act if they suspected they were being radicalised by extremists.

It was his first speech to a Muslim audience since becoming home secretary.

The protester, also known as Omar Brookes, denies being a member of the banned Abu Ghurabaa group.

He accused the minister of being an "enemy" of Islam before he was led from the building by police and stewards"

Typical reaction and illustrates why there doesnt seem to be any hope. No one can say anything whatsoever without muslims going beserk. Unless this changes, and changes fast, they are going to get us all killed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5362052.stm

[BRISTOLUK]

I can't disagree with that post, 'bluearsedfly'.
We hear talk of 'radical' groups...and because of what those groups do, we hear them described as 'no longer Muslims' even though they describe their actions as being in the name of Islam.
They may well not be 'true' Muslims. But how do they recruit and organise if not under an umbrella of respectability?

Just how many 'ordinary' or 'true' Muslims are turning a blind eye to this? Exactly how does a 'radical' Muslim recruit someone? Go up and ask? How do they identify a possible convert to something more extreme? Something must have pointed them in that person's direction. Why can't someone else have seen that same 'something' and done something about it?

If they ask someone if they're interested in something more radical and they aren't, then why is that approach not reported to someone to prevent the hijacking of Islam?


To be fair, there was an Imam in London who did precisely that. Maybe not enough.

[Fenerliyim]

Unless muslim leaders take responsibility and make a determined and genuine effort to stop their faith being perverted into something evil we are all in big trouble.

This is the first thing i have ever seen u post that is actually smart. I agree 100%

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http://youtube.com/watch?v=L-8U81HBjrg&mode=related&search=
check this video out
must see, since everyone is blaming islam behind 9/11

[Saraj Fanático]

Listen to this idiot. Bosnian Unit and bosanacc spread MUSLIMS VIEWS all over the board to the point they became SPAMMERS and now WE are the ones who talk propaganda? This is why we the FREE WORLD are fighting you.

Hopefully, soon we wont read these...posts... and there will be simply jokes on you guys. Somebody close the threads where HATE against the FREE WORLD IS SPREAD or I will start opening threads about WHAT I THINK!

STFU you fag. The guy opens a thread about the truth about his religion and you and Ulster come in as complete jackoffs and start this shit.

[Sicilian]

http://youtube.com/watch?v=L-8U81HBjrg&mode=related&search=
check this video out
must see, since everyone is blaming islam behind 9/11

look man i respect your opinions, but please do not give credence to these conspiracy theories about 9/11 it is personal to me and i will get very angry.

[())__Green__))>]

^dude
if america lied about the whole iraq thing "weapons of mass destruction"
they probably lied about 9/11 too
look man
it says in my religion .. Islam
it says.. "whenever you get information about something. check it out before you pass it on to the second person or the third person"
it is from a video
so don't convict islam or muslims of having anything to do with 9/11 before you actually prove it 110% instead of showing us these bullshit fake tapes and lies..

check this video out, Muslim Peoples Point Of View!!!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=wjR1BsTWMVc&mode=related&search=

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it just had to be said
too many ppl pointing fingers at islam

[billy-liar]

this is the core problem as i see it

the problem is not with islam itself, the problem is why do so many followers of islam think it is ok to riot, murder, suicide bomb, hijack etc at the slightest of provocation. You cannot just say these things are against muslim teaching and therefore these people are not true muslims and so just wash your hands of them.

Something about the muslim faith or the way it is taught is making terrorists out of many, many muslims and what is being done about it? Sweet FA thats what. Why are there no sikh, hindu, buddhist,shinto etc etc terrorists ranting and raving over anything and everything, crashing civilian planes into civilian buildings, threatening to murder anyone who dares the slightest critisism of their faith?

Unless muslim leaders take responsibility and make a determined and genuine effort to stop their faith being perverted into something evil we are all in big trouble.

the british home secretary gave a speech saying muslim parents should keep a watch on their children for signs of them being radicalised and what happened?

"Reid speech disrupted by hecklers

Home Secretary John Reid has been heckled during a speech about targeting potential Muslim extremists.
He was interrupted by activist Abu Izzadeen, a Muslim, who said he was "furious" about "state terrorism by British police".

In his speech, Mr Reid asked Muslim parents to keep a close eye on their children and act if they suspected they were being radicalised by extremists.

It was his first speech to a Muslim audience since becoming home secretary.

The protester, also known as Omar Brookes, denies being a member of the banned Abu Ghurabaa group.

He accused the minister of being an "enemy" of Islam before he was led from the building by police and stewards"

Typical reaction and illustrates why there doesnt seem to be any hope. No one can say anything whatsoever without muslims going beserk. Unless this changes, and changes fast, they are going to get us all killed.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/5362052.stm
Agree completely with you on this post,any normal thinking person would,but, would a muslim agree?? i don't think so.(cause they're not normal)

[Sol_Badguy79]

If I am an atheist, dumbass, I have a "hate" towards any religion. So I don't see why you are making a difference. Yes, I would do the same thing. Unlike you I am smart and true to my actions, not a liar retard like you.

An atheist is someone who does not believe in god or any other divine being. It does not mean someone who 'hates' religion. If you have decided to twist it into hatred then you are just as bad as those you insult