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Bosnian Unit
09-18-2006, 11:16 PM
Latley i can see most people are saying if you make pictures of Muhamed Muslims go crazy, if you say something bad about Muhamed Muslims go crazy.


But let me tell you something.


Did Muslims ever make pictures of Jesus, or said something bad about Jesus?

THEY DID NOT.

Becouse Jesus (Isa a.s in Koran) is respected and a messanger of God/Allah.

Only difference in Koran is he is not viewed as a ''son of God/Allah'' becouse God/Allah doesnt have son.



But did you ever saw Christians making pictures of Jesus, or posing like Jesus?

YES YOU DID.

Like Madonna, Tupac Shakur, Kanye West etc...Calling Jesus their dawg, and all these ''COOL NAMES''.

Its obvious Christians doesnt respect their religion, so how can they respect ours!? You cant make pictures of somebody when you dont know how their face and body was.

And Plus make him as a WHITE while he is a JEW from Palestine, and we all know that people are colored there.

With Christians everything is down to sastifay a human, while they forget God. Most of them use drugs, do bad things, cheat, pick up hookers, do everything possible to sastfay themselfs and then on Sunday go to Chruch and GOD FORGIVE ME. The next week is the same thing, and so on.


Or Sex industry.....3 or 4 Males with 1 Female, Mom and Son, Father & Daughter,Sex with animals and so on.......All that is IMORAL and against THEIR RELIGION, but all that have been done to sastifay a HUMAN.

With Muslims is different, they respect their religion. Thats the LAW,and 5 times a day you need to pray, and face towards Kabba no matter what you are doing. You have to have time for that !

Some quotes:


The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}


The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.


According to "The Almanac Book of Facts", the population increased 137% within the past decade, Christianity increased 46%, while Islam increased 235%.

In a recent poll in the (US), 100,000 people per year in America alone, are converting to Islam. For every 1 male convert to Islam, 4 females convert to Islam, Why?

Christian Scientists are declaring the Koran is from God. Visit Here for Christian and atheist Scientists who convert to Islam and why:

http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch13.html




The Christian Bishops and Priests are admitting the Bible has tensions: See here>>>
http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch2.1.html

Ero
09-18-2006, 11:36 PM
oh shut up bosnian unit you done these topics to death.... you and most muslims on sfn have admitted they drink alcohol, have sex, and dont pray ect so stfu about how all muslims follow and do not disrespect their religion like Christians do!

Bosnian Unit
09-19-2006, 12:09 AM
oh shut up bosnian unit you done these topics to death.... you and most muslims on sfn have admitted they drink alcohol, have sex, and dont pray ect so stfu about how all muslims follow and do not disrespect their religion like Christians do!


I do drink and i know im not a good Muslim.

But come on every Muslim family have 4-5 children so its obvious they have sex:D .

I drink and thats the bad thing, but what can i do God/Allah will do what he want with me, right ?

My point was RELIGION !!

Latley most people were saying Koran said this Koran said that, and all that was not true.

But dont judge something that you dont know. Just look at the numbers and how many converted to Islam etc.. Becouse of some crazy so called ''terorists'' people think all Muslims are like that.

And about Muslim reactions on everything, well i posted so now they can see WHY Muslim react like they usualy do.

Pape
09-19-2006, 12:27 AM
This guy really pisses me off. I don't care what religion you are but I just really hate this Bosnian Unit guy, we go back some time, he is really racist guy and very ignorant also. No offense to my Muslim friends, I am atheist, never been baptised or to church, so I really hope you can understand me on this one. I just want him to get "REAL"

But let me tell you something.


Did Muslims ever make pictures of Jesus, or said something bad about Jesus?

THEY DID NOT.

Becouse Jesus (Isa a.s in Koran) is respected and a messanger of God/Allah.

Only difference in Koran is he is not viewed as a ''son of God/Allah'' becouse God/Allah doesnt have son.

I'm def. not a religion expert but Muslims aren't suppose to make any icons, drawings of their religious figures. And if Jesus is a figure of Islam as well than you are not suppose to do that because it's against your beliefs :lol: . And if he is a part of Islam, than why would you insult him? :rolleyes:



But did you ever saw Christians making pictures of Jesus, or posing like Jesus?

YES YOU DID.

Like Madonna, Tupac Shakur, Kanye West etc...Calling Jesus their dawg, and all these ''COOL NAMES''.

Its obvious Christians doesnt respect their religion, so how can they respect ours!? You cant make pictures of somebody when you dont know how their face and body was.

Suicide bombers, terrorists, Bin Laden...:rolleyes:


And Plus make him as a WHITE while he is a JEW from Palestine, and we all know that people are colored there.

You aren't suppose to look at icons :rolleyes: Jesus is a part of Islam remember?

With Christians everything is down to sastifay a human, while they forget God. Most of them use drugs, do bad things, cheat, pick up hookers, do everything possible to sastfay themselfs and then on Sunday go to Chruch and GOD FORGIVE ME. The next week is the same thing, and so on.


...suicide bombers, rape outrage in Iraq?...

Or Sex industry.....3 or 4 Males with 1 Female, Mom and Son, Father & Daughter,Sex with animals and so on.......All that is IMORAL and against THEIR RELIGION, but all that have been done to sastifay a HUMAN.


freaky shit :rolleyes:, Bin Laden's niece naked on a magazine cover? :rolleyes:

With Muslims is different, they respect their religion. Thats the LAW,and 5 times a day you need to pray, and face towards Kabba no matter what you are doing. You have to have time for that !

..... .......... connect the dots

Some quotes:


The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}


The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.

Women can work, own business, equal rights as men. I'll feel bad for your wife :rolleyes:

According to "The Almanac Book of Facts", the population increased 137% within the past decade, Christianity increased 46%, while Islam increased 235%.

In a recent poll in the (US), 100,000 people per year in America alone, are converting to Islam. For every 1 male convert to Islam, 4 females convert to Islam, Why?


:rolleyes: It's like the stock market kinda if you really look at it, the religions. Ohh you aren't stoned when you convert to Islam, that helps too.

Christian Scientists are declaring the Koran is from God. Visit Here for Christian and atheist Scientists who convert to Islam and why:

http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch13.html

The Christian Bishops and Priests are admitting the Bible has tensions: See here>>>
http://wings.buffalo.edu/sa/muslim/library/jesus-say/ch2.1.html

I'm atheist, should I convert?

bob bob
09-19-2006, 12:29 AM
My God made love to your God.

poutismalakas
09-19-2006, 01:08 AM
this is obviously a provoking thread and will ONLY lead to fighting something Bosnian Unit seems to like BUT this thread is CLOSED

valdanito_10
09-19-2006, 05:55 AM
Let me clear up one thing to mods who view this thread. You cant go and close threads just because you think the guy who started it is racist/w.e you want.
The thread unfortunately has to go out of control before we close it.
This is an open discussion, and I will re-open the thread.

Avoid calling each other racists, if you do, it will be a warning offense.

DONT BE RACIST, thias goes to all members.

Sorry to turn around your decision poutis.

PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT OPINIONS, RESPECT THEM.

Everyone should learn how to behave under certain subjects. As soon as this looses control some warning WILL be sent out, and the thread will be closed.


I hope everything is clear.

nachi88
09-19-2006, 07:27 AM
With Christians everything is down to sastifay a human, while they forget God. Most of them use drugs, do bad things, cheat, pick up hookers, do everything possible to sastfay themselfs and then on Sunday go to Chruch and GOD FORGIVE ME. The next week is the same thing, and so on.




This is the lamest Bullshit I've ever read. Going to hookers, having slaves, and all other vices that can affect human nature are just as much islamic as they are christian. Read this link about slavery in the arab world
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Classroom/9912/easterntrade.html

They have done their fair amount of racism.

Have you ever been to Dubai , Kuwait or any of the other Gulf Muslim Arab nations??? Most of the hookers there are Lebanese/Syrian/Fillipino and their clients are fellow muslim Arabs. Then of Friday, they go pray, and supposedly they are cleansed of all their sins. And t goes on week after week.

You say most Christains use drugs? Do you know that as a percentage of population, the two nations that have maximum no. of drug addicts are Islamic Republic of Iran, and then Afghanistan. Both have (officially) 3-5% of their population as drug addicts. The is only 0.75-2% for the Western Countries you so much despise. So does this indicate that islamic regimes mean more drug addiction? If I was you, I would end up with the same conclusion. :rolleyes:

Bosnian Unit
09-19-2006, 08:01 AM
This is the lamest Bullshit I've ever read. Going to hookers, having slaves, and all other vices that can affect human nature are just as much islamic as they are christian. Read this link about slavery in the arab world
http://www.geocities.com/CollegePark/Classroom/9912/easterntrade.html

They have done their fair amount of racism.

Have you ever been to Dubai , Kuwait or any of the other Gulf Muslim Arab nations??? Most of the hookers there are Lebanese/Syrian/Fillipino and their clients are fellow muslim Arabs. Then of Friday, they go pray, and supposedly they are cleansed of all their sins. And t goes on week after week.

You say most Christains use drugs? Do you know that as a percentage of population, the two nations that have maximum no. of drug addicts are Islamic Republic of Iran, and then Afghanistan. Both have (officially) 3-5% of their population as drug addicts. The is only 0.75-2% for the Western Countries you so much despise. So does this indicate that islamic regimes mean more drug addiction? If I was you, I would end up with the same conclusion. :rolleyes:


While Taliban were in power they destroyed all opium etc... But when Americans ''free'' Afghanistan that country is #1 supplyer of opium in the world. Is not Afghans who use that ofcourse its going to Americans.


That is total BS. You are trying to tell me, a USA 300 million population and just 0.75-2% are drug addicts. THAT IS NOT TRUE 100%.



I also wanted to say something else.

Some people are saying how you cant practice Christianity and build Chruch in Saudi Arabia for example.


Well can we build Mosque in Vatican ?

Of course NOT.

Those are Holly Lands, and in any other Islamic/Muslim country there is Christains and Churces:Iran,Iraq,Jordan,Yemen,Turkey,Pakistan,Kazahstan,Malaysia,Indonesia,Bosnia & Herzegovina,Albania,Egypt,Morrocco,Tunisia,Qatar,Lebanon,Afghanistan i mean you name it....!!


P.S. America for example was build BY SLAVES.And still today you have these slaves who work for $5 per hour.

What about Rome/Italy ? Come on lets not talk about slavery becouse Western powers still today have their slaves.Not like before but in the other way.

ulster21
09-19-2006, 01:50 PM
Someone should close this anti-christian thread

Pape
09-19-2006, 02:21 PM
Haha well technically the only slaves in America are the people that drop out of high school. It is their fault they drop out and put themselves in that position. But they still have the right to a high paying job, starting business, expanding a business, investing in stock, and everything else every other man has... If you had everybody working at $100 per hour nobody would really have much, because that big mac in mc donalds would also be a 100 bucks and all the prices would be huge... So I don't really know what you mean by that when every society operates like this today, more education more money, less education less money. I wouldn't want a high school drop out to have it easier than me if I've spent 10 years in a university, would you?

billy-liar
09-19-2006, 03:26 PM
When a muslim dies and goes to heaven he gets 72 virgin wives.Does this mean that their god is a pimp? What about the non suicide bombers ?do they get 72 virgins as well or does murder have to be committed??

poutismalakas
09-19-2006, 06:20 PM
SINCE this thread was reopened and THIS IS obvious flame thread I will leave it open to prove my point that this will only lead to fights and pissed off people

wolverine
09-19-2006, 07:06 PM
Politics and religion are two different things. Just b'cos a country has a majority Christian population and are ruled by Christians doesn't mean that the Biblical laws are implemented there. Basically all religions teach good but its the followers who mess it up.

Though Nachi's drug abuse % might not be accurate, the things he said about prostitution in places like Dubai, Kuwait are very much valid.

Even in Saudi Arabia where alcohol is officialy prohibited,its available illegaly. I've said this before and I say it again, some of the laws in Saudi are ridicululous (but they claim it to be Islamic). As long as there's no democracy in that country I don't see it going anywhere (despite having the largest oil source). The only good thing that Saudi govt has done for the Islamic world is that it has provided a lot of amenities to make the pilgrim's life easier during the pilgrimage season.

U r right abt Taliban they destroyed all the opium fields but they've brought more misery to the Afghans esp the Afghan women than good. Ofcourse, I do not say that the current puppet govt is doing any better.

I believe that u wouldn't have read/studied the Bible so probably u wud've quoted that verse out of context. There r sites like answeringislam.com and answeringchritianity.com where ppl can quote a lot of verses from the Qu'ran and the Bible resp and make their own conclusions abt it. These sites IMO, are merely for the skeptic to go and reaffirm their preconcieved notions of either of the faith. Infact in today's world any fool who can afford to register a domain can state what he wants and get a fair share of audience.

For most of us here, the faith and the practices that we follow would have come or I shud say was inherited from our parents. Our knowledge of the other is mainly from the media. Irrespective of our religion, most of us have neither studied the Bible nor the Quran. That being the case I don't think that either of us are worthy of making strong comments abt the others' faith.

poutismalakas
09-19-2006, 09:23 PM
Latley i can see most people are saying if you make pictures of Muhamed Muslims go crazy, if you say something bad about Muhamed Muslims go crazy.

Its obvious Christians doesnt respect their religion, so how can they respect ours!? You cant make pictures of somebody when you dont know how their face and body was.

And Plus make him as a WHITE while he is a JEW from Palestine, and we all know that people are colored there.

With Christians everything is down to sastifay a human, while they forget God. Most of them use drugs, do bad things, cheat, pick up hookers, do everything possible to sastfay themselfs and then on Sunday go to Chruch and GOD FORGIVE ME. The next week is the same thing, and so on.

Some quotes:

The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}


The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.





HEY MAYBE IN THE FUTURE You TRY NOT TO MISSQUOTE the HOLY BIBLE!!!!!


The Bible also asks Women to wear veils as in
Islam {I Corinthians 11:3-10}, this lowers the
chance of rape, (God Forbid), see statistic link
below.

http://www.ccel.org/bible/phillips/CP07Cor1.htm

I Corinthians 11:3-10 - But I want you to know that Christ is the head of every individual man, just as a man is the "head" of the woman and God is the head of Christ. Thus it follows that if a man prays or preaches with his head covered, he is, symbolically, dishonouring him who is his real head. But in the case of a woman, if she prays or preaches with her head uncovered it is just as much a disgrace as if she had it closely shaved. For if a woman does not cover her head she might just as well have her hair cropped. And if to be cropped or closely shaven is a sign of disgrace to women, then that is all the more reason for her to cover the head. A man ought not to cover his head, for he represents the very person and glory of God, while the woman reflects the person and glory of the man. For man does not exist because woman exists, but vice versa. Man was not created originally for the sake of woman, but woman was created for the sake of man. For this reason a woman ought to bear on her head an outward sign of man's authority for all the angels to see.


The Bible says "The Birth of a Daughter is a
loss" {Ecclesiasticus 22:3}. The Qur'an says both
are an Equal Blessing { Qur'an 42:49}

http://www.newadvent.org/bible/sir022.htm

Ecclesiasticus 22:3 A son ill taught is the confusion of the father: and a foolish daughter shall be to his loss.

Milos_
09-20-2006, 12:28 AM
Away from soccer section sould be closed:thumbsup:

Waste of time and space.