Should Repulika Srpska Disappear From The Bosnian Map??

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Post your opinions and questions on if the Republika Srpska should be whiped off the bosnian map??

one example of this is.. its harder to join European Union, three races controlling the country.. No one will agree with each other on anything, if we want to create a bosnia that will actually advance and go somewhere, we have to all unite

another example is, why did america give the serbs land for the genocide war that happened in bosnia.. the worst war since ww2.. if america gave them 49% of the land, its like saying.. we should give the Germans land for world war 2 and then call it Republic Germany.. its all the same

post your opinions here!!
thanks :thumbsup:

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http://www.cnn.com/WORLD/Bosnia/updates/nov95/11-21/terms/bosnia.map.jpg

that is Republika Srpska
And Bosnian-Croat Federation
and my home city Brcko top right :p

[Pape]

I'm for one name, but if you don't want to call them Bosnian and if they don't want to call themselves Bosnian's we are all just dreaming...

[())__Green__))>]

I'm for one name, but if you don't want to call them Bosnian and if they don't want to call themselves Bosnian's we are all just dreaming...
yes true
one thing is that bosnia won't advance anywhere with 3 races controlling the nation
no one agrees with anyone on anything...
i heard republika srpska leader and hercegovina leader had a private meeting without the bosnian leader and are planning on trying to break up from bosna.. but i doubt that will happen, it should be a united bosnia
cuz its bosnian land and it will never change that

[Pape]

I don't want to start a arguement but what do you consider "Bosnian"?

[())__Green__))>]

like who i consider bosnian..
uhmm well
the muslims in bosnia are called bosniaks.. i consider them bosnian
but if you ask most serbs from republika srpska.. they wont say they are bosnian cuz they were born there.. and most wont even say im bosnian serb (some do though).. but most will just say 100% serb
same with croatians in hercegovina.. some say half croat half bosnian but most will just say croatian
its just the truth
you don't go hearing around serbs that were born in bosnia calling themselves bosnians or bosniaks..
its the muslim's that do that
its basically based on where their parents come from.
i'm still for the idea that republika srpska should be whiped off the map and that there should be a United Bosnia..
it would have been sooooooo much easier if it were just one main race in bosnia that controlled the country like there is in Serbia and in Croatia

[Pape]

If we couldn't unite in a perfectly fine Yugoslavia, I don't see how we will unite now in a very disturbed and split country... Building up churches and mosques doesn't help the cause either and the worst part is the people that grew up isolated in one religion communities... They view the other people as not their own because of difference in religion and I would like to see people figure this mystery out. And than one somebody brings up war crimes every person has their own side and you know the human nature of that, everybody pulls their own way and nobody is wrong.

Now I'm pissed thinking about this. We couldn't keep a unified Yugoslavia, whats the reason for me to think we can keep a unified mini-Yugoslavia? I'd shoot myself now or call myself an American when I think about this shit.

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exactly man
thats what i mean by
it would be easier if it was one main race in bosnia controlling the country
then we would at least be going somewhere like Serbia and Croatia
but this is the screwed up thing
no one will agree with anyone
they are planning on destroying republika srpska
and so that is just one united bosnia..yes
i agree with it, but i also agree with your point too
if we do that then people will argue and fight again in a mini-yugoslavia
its all stupid politics..
only way it would be good for politics and stuff is that hercegovina splits to croatia and republika srpska to serbia and the rest is bosnian muslim land
but that won't happen, because we dont want a small bosnia and that cant happen cuz its bosnian land anyways
like the people that hate bosnia and are still in there are trying to fight to split up from us
but that won't happen because bosniaks are not letting them
it pisses me off too.. it was soooo much better when it was yugoslavia
i swear, if anything in the world.. i swear i would love if there was a yugoslavia and i would still be living in my home in bosnia
even at my last soccer game.. fk sarajevo vs serbian white eagles.. the serb fans were singing their chants and calling us names and our bosnian fans were doing the same... this will not be forgotten for all sides, just 1 stupid political leader ***ked it all up...
i personally have nothing against anyone, serbs and croats and bosnians are like brothers.. hell most serbs hate milosevic for everything he has done.. i just hate the ones that hate us
the only way we can do it is we unite bosnia and take off republika srpska.. yes i know it will create some problems, but better doing it now and then people later on get used to it before it becomes chaos...
if that is accomplished, then we would be one step closer to having a true bosnia
even if there was no war, it would have still been much better and easier
i would love to see a yugoslavia again, but that will never happen now..

[Bosnian Unit]

So called ''Republika Srpska'' was made by genocide and killing of none-Serbs.There had been 1.5 million none-Serbs mostly Bosniaks and Croats and they don't live there anymore.

Today ''RS'' population is about 1.3 million and 85% are Serbs.Even those Serbs who were forced out from Croatia now lives in ''RS''.

While in Federation of BIH we have about 2.5 million people and 70% of them Are Bosniaks and rest is mostly Croats and Serbs. Its a fact most Serbs sold their houses in Federation of BIH and moved to ''RS''.

After all i pretty much don't care about ''RS'' becouse it will never work out.To make it disappear is bad becouse then you will have 35% of BIH population going crazy.Im not for that, that will not work.

What im for is to just change the name ''Republika Srpska''.Reasons why:
1.Made by genocide, forced out 1.5 million.
2.Never existed before.
3.There is still 15% Bosniaks/Croats there who returned in their homes. And to live in a place called like that is not good, and longest its like that we will have problems.

Switzerland,Belgium etc...are countrys with entitys and Bosnia & Herzegovina can be one, but just change the name ''RS''.

I dont care Serbs and Croats can live here and they can do whatever they want to, chear for Serbia or Croatia for example :D but lets make it better place for life.

We all know we can never force out one nationality. Bosniaks,Serbs and Croats lived here since long time ago and we/they will continue to live here together, weather we/they like it or not.

So its better for all of us to understand that soon as possible, becouse nobady is going anywhere, our children will live here and lets make it a better place for them if not for us.

STOP listening those dump leaders who just talk shi# when elections are about to happend and then NOTHING. All of those scums, Bosniaks,Serbs and Croats they all LIE to their people. They are just there for money, they incrise their pay for 5% and yours for 1% so by that you can see how they care about YOU.

Yea, so change te name into North-Eastern Bosnia or something and let it be a entity i dont care. Give all people equal rights, so everybody can live and work were they want to etc...That would be just fine.


P.S.Meybe Bosnia & Herzegovina will be united when next generations comes like in Germany after 40 years. So what let it be, but its not possible now to do that.Wounds are fresh and everyone of us lived thru that horor.

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^ i totally agree with you
at least change the name republika srpska
cuz then it makes it seem like serbia deserved the land for the genocide in bosnia
and that they were right and that killing of innocent people in bosnia was right
it just stores problems
i hate america, they can suck my dick.. for creating stupid policies like these
but if they dont change the entity
then we have to make the republika srpska disappear
its best if its just bosnia
you said they would go crazy... well they are currently still going crazy
they are burning bosnian flags in my home city Brcko and doing all this Anti-Bosnian stuff.. i do not support having a serbian district in bosnia, its like having a bosnian or croatian district in serbia, how would they feel??
either change the name like you said
or make it disappear and let people get used to it
cuz the way its going now, it wont work out
so its either one of those two

[Pape]

I'm worried about this shit man... the system thats in place now won't last for long unless we are stupid like robots and follow it like robots. But we aren't that kind of people and I also don't see all those people being friends right away.

Another thing that is very dangerous thing is that people view Serbian as a religion, Croatian as a religion, and Bosnian as a religion. Bosnia in term is a region and anybody living in it should be called "Bosnian". Comming from a christian background, I fear that Bosnian Muslims only consider Bosnia to be land of Bosnians people and that they only view Bosnians to be those people that are Muslim. So than that makes me feel like I'm some sort of a invader, when in term my family dates back in Bosnia at least a few generations or a few hundred years. And if I have been in the same place as long as my neighboor that is Muslim its like, its okay he is Bosnian you are living on his land. But if you look at it that way we have been here the same, wherever we came from, and its not any of our land it was Illyrian before all of us. It hasn't been shown (I don't think or I don't know it has) but there might have been other people there that the Illyrians invaded, so we can say that it's their land?

Same story goes with Muslim people in Serbia and Croatia. Orthodox people in Croatia and Bosnia. Catholic people in Bosnia and Serbia.

It's like saying American is a religion. And now you go and see a Muslim man in America whose great great grandfather sailed the ocean with Columbus and you call him Bosnian because of his religion, or if he is Orthodox you call him Serbian, or if he is Catholic you call him Croatian... He isn't any of those he is American, no matter the religion..

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http://bosanske-budale9.tripod.com/sitebuildercontent/sitebuilderpictures/boy_walking_with_bosnia_and_herzegovina_flag_lg_wm.gif
we even changed the flag to this
it represents the three races in bosnia that are living there
and we are moving towards peace and all inside bosnia
we can do the same for republika srpska
there are bosniaks currently in republika srpska government that are trying to split it up and are for the bosnian government.. thats how it should be
i dont care if serbs or croats live in bosnia, there are bosnians and croats that live throughout balkans, but its just the stupid governments and politics should be stopped and they should make it one united bosnia

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yeah
thats the thing
like serbs can call themselves bosnian if they were born there and all
croats can call themselves bosnian if they were born there and living there
yes you can, but they decide not to
they call themselves serbs or croats.. never bosnians
bosnian is considered to be muslim always
i would love if it were just like 1 main thing in bosnia called bosnians like croats serbs and bosniak muslims
then it would work out better and we would get along
but that won't happen, they dont consider themselves bosnians
http://www.emat-tucson.org/Bosnia/Pictures/BosniaFlag.gif

[Pape]

Stop. I mean common, we had a country called Yugoslavia and we could all call ourselves "Yugoslavians"... Noooo that wasn't good enough for us. We had to call ourselves Croatians, Bosnians, Serbians even if it meant destroying our good and happy lives. Idiots had to follow the likes of Milosevic, Izetbegovic, Tudman. If you still like any of those, I want you to look out of your window and thank them for what they gave you, is life better now? Did your "hero" accomplish your goals? Too bad and very sad if they did, because now you don't have anything to repay them with for their heroics!

[Saraj Fanático]

I'm for one name, but if you don't want to call them Bosnian and if they don't want to call themselves Bosnian's we are all just dreaming...

I am really proud of you dude. We need people like you in Bosnia more. People for a single united nation without the groups wanting to break off. We should be united for a better future for our kids. Bosniak, Serb, and Croat should be seen as Bosnians that live there. Doenst matter what religion you follow or what your name is. We should avoid the same mistakes that happened in 92.

[Saraj Fanático]

FK-Sarajevo, be careful since this thread might explode into a flamewar VERY easily. I say its a matter of time. Make sure you dont insult and Bosniaks, Croatians and Serbs since we are one of the biggest groups on SFN and I cant imagine what kind of Flamewar would break out if you make one mistake. Mother of all Flamewars.

[Bosnian Unit]

Stop. I mean common, we had a country called Yugoslavia and we could all call ourselves "Yugoslavians"... Noooo that wasn't good enough for us. We had to call ourselves Croatians, Bosnians, Serbians even if it meant destroying our good and happy lives. Idiots had to follow the likes of Milosevic, Izetbegovic, Tudman. If you still like any of those, I want you to look out of your window and thank them for what they gave you, is life better now? Did your "hero" accomplish your goals? Too bad and very sad if they did, because now you don't have anything to repay them with for their heroics!


Fusion....Life is just fine, i don't remember Yugoslavia my parents do. I was born in '84, and i love my country and there is no place else that i would be.

Also I THANK MY HERO'S for not letting Serbs to kill me or force me out of my home like they did 1.5 million other none Serbs.

[Ero]

why call everybody who lives in BiH bosnian? there are hercegovci also!
I find it insulting when people call me bosnian because i am Hercegovian :D

anyways i support Herceg Bosna splitting from BiH and joining Croatia 1000000% i'm sorry but i do! and i do because Croats are a dieing race in BiH, we had 750 000 croats in 91 and now only about 500 000 and more Croats are leaving for croatia or the diaspora because the economy is so bad in BiH

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heheh
it was all bosnian land
hercegovina leader
and republika srpska leader had private meeting without bosniak leader and wanted to plan to seperate.. but i doubt that will happen, it is bosnian land and be that way

[Ero]

@ Fusion

Yugoslavia was the worst thing to ever happen to Croatia, serbia, BiH ect and it's the reason why most of our grandparents and relatives are dead and why we live in the diaspora and not our homelands :sad:

F*** tito and Yugoslavia :D

[Ero]

heheh
it was all bosnian land
hercegovina leader
and republika srpska leader had private meeting without bosniak leader and wanted to plan to seperate.. but i doubt that will happen, it is bosnian land and be that way
people should be allowed to vote and choose their own future and country and not be living in a country against their will

they should put it to a vote and see what happens it'll be 99% Serbs would want to seperate and 99% of Croats would want to seperate.... btw if RS is abolished there will be another war and no one wants that! or do you?

[Ero]

~edited~ double post

[Pape]

FK Sarajevo,
I think we just got our questions and hopes answered. Might as well close the thread before it gets out of hand~~~

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no man
republika srpska cant seperate
and so cant hercegovina
its all bosnian land, no matter what they want.. it cant seperate
republika srpska will sooner or later disappear...
it will be a bosnia
so if hercegovina and republika srpska splits off...
what is bosnia left with???
a small bosnia...
that cant happen
it would be nice, yeah making a greater country.. its like how would you feel if a big chunk of croatia wanted to split up and join bosnia or serb chunk of land wants to join bosnia.. its easy looking at you're own country
but i doubt they can leave
cuz its bosnian land

[())__Green__))>]

no i dont want to start anything with anyone
i'm just saying the truth..
i dont hate croats
i dont hate serbs
just they cant seperate from bosnia is all im saying

[Pape]

I am Bosnian, Bosanac. I can't say I'm Serbian (as much as BU would want me to say) when I was born in Bosnia and when my great great great grandfather was born there too. My family may be of Serbian Orthodox and Croatian Catholic religion but that doesn't mean I'm Serbian or Croatian. I don't call you Turkish because you are of Turkish Islamic religion... Its best we burn every mosque and church down together and start over. And those that want to pray and don't want to give up their religious traditions, they can pray at home, or move to Italy, Greece, Russia, Turkey, Iran whatever they like more...

[Bosnian Unit]

no i dont want to start anything with anyone
i'm just saying the truth..
i dont hate croats
i dont hate serbs
just they cant seperate from bosnia is all im saying


THEY WILL NOT, NEVER EVER !!

You know why ?

Becouse then Sandzak(Bosnian ''state'' in Serbia) will get seperated from Serbia.

Then Kosovo should seperate from Serbia.

Then Vojvodina should Seperate from Serbia.

Republika Srpska Krajina should seperate from Croatia.

Albanians should get their part of Macedonia.

Basque should seperate from Spain, also Catalonia, and Checenya, or Kasmir and so on............

[Bosnian Unit]

I am Bosnian, Bosanac. I can't say I'm Serbian (as much as BU would want me to say) when I was born in Bosnia and when my great great great grandfather was born there too. My family may be of Serbian Orthodox and Croatian Catholic religion but that doesn't mean I'm Serbian or Croatian. I don't call you Turkish because you are of Turkish Islamic religion... Its best we burn every mosque and church down together and start over. And those that want to pray and don't want to give up their religious traditions, they can pray at home, or move to Italy, Greece, Russia, Turkey, Iran whatever they like more...

BU has just send you a PM, and be fair and say the truth:rolleyes: .

I said be whoever you want too, didnt i ?

So many times i have said, i dont care who is who and chear for Serbia,Croatia or Russia, whoever you want to BUT LETS LIVE IN PEACE.

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true!!
like kk.. its kinda weird if u think about it
in canada for example.. if you call yourself canadian it dont matter
but in serbia, bosnia and croatia they look at your religion and if u say ur serbian when ur actually bosnian.. they will be like wtf ur muslim
thats all im trying to say..
i know a guy too serb background but was born in bosnia and calls himself bosnian
i dont mind that.. you guys can call yourselves bosnians cuz u were there and all.. its like canadians in canada
but just my point is.. republika srpska and hercegovina wont split up from bosna and will always be bosnian land and that most serbs from bosnia dont call themselves bosnians or croats dont call em selves bosnian
like ustasa said, "i get offended when people call me bosnian over hercegovac" thats all im trying to say
its great if they consider themselves bosnians.. and support bosnia and all their homeland

[Pape]

Now don't get pissed, I just want you to know this.

I have called myself Serbian before and I never will again. I also supported Serbia NT in the past as my number one team as well and I don't anymore. I want you to know that I did this because, I believe it or not felt isolated out of being Bosnian by the Muslim community. I never felt right about this and from experience I have figured out that you if are Muslim are not any more Bosnian than me.

I live in a big Bosnian Muslim community here in the USA and they were my main cause for this. Always calling me Serbian and they didn't even know where I was from. They just knew my stupid russian name. Sadly these people don't even speak Bosnian they speak Croatian and I can't believe I allowed myself to have them say this. My parents never told me what was what and never told me to take one side. They always talked down on the actions of all 3 armies and 3 presidents. Now I have matured, grown above my age, and I have figured it out.

The worst thing I can do is call myself Serbian and have you take advantage of me. If this happens I can only hate you like most of RS, but knowing that I am as much Bosnian as you are I can live in peace with you and it feels good knowing you are my people. You are more like me than any Serbian out of Serbia and if we let religion get in our way we are only separating ourselves when we should be like a family and we all know how family is important in to us Bosnians :).

[Milos_]

Za Nezavisnu Republiku Srpsku:thumbsup:

Your all biased and I am as well so close this stupid ass thread.

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yeah i understand what you mean
you can call yourself bosnian
you can support the bosnian national team
you can do whatever you want in bosnia
but all i said was most serbs dont call themselves bosnians
this is very rare that i see a serb call himself a bosnian
and yes i do know a lot of serbs who were born in bosnia..
what you said about being bosnian.. i respect that
we are all brothers :D

[())__Green__))>]

no need to close it down
we are not arguing
we are just talking political stuff
like it says in the forum
away from soccer :thumbsup:

[Pape]

It's a necessary thread if anything...

[Milos_]

If you say so....

Šaćirbej: SAD obećale RS referendum
stana - 18. septembar 2006.

Bivši ambasador BiH u UN Muhamed Šaćirbej kaže da su SAD obećale Republici Srpskoj referendum o izdvajanju iz BiH. Šaćirbej je za NTV Hajat iz Sarajeva rekao da su pre potpisivanja Dejtonskog sporazuma predstavnici SAD obećali da će u budućnosti Republici Srpskoj biti omogućen referendum za otcepljenje od Bosne i Hercegovine, pišu Večernje novosti. Šaćirbej tvrdi da upravo zato Milorad Dodik, premijer RS, u poslednje vreme forsira priču o samoopredeljenju. Šaćirbej tvrdi da su SAD, dok je on bio u mirovnim pregovorima za vreme rata, tražile od bivšeg predsednika Jugoslavije Slobodana Miloševića da kaže šta treba da učine da bi on seo za pregovarački sto.

„Milošević je tražio da Srbima pripadnu enklave u istočnoj Bosni, odnosno Srebrenica, Žepa i Goražde. Milošević, predsednik SAD Bil Klinton, predstavnik SAD Ričard Holbruk i predstavnik Ujedinjenih nacija za SFRJ Jasuši Akaši postigli su dogovor o tome da Srbima budu predate te enklave. Administracija SAD nagovarala nas je da predamo te zone, ali niko od nas, ni predsednik BiH Alija Izetbegović, ni premijer BiH Haris Silajdžić, ni ja nismo želeli da to prihvatimo”, kaže Šaćirbej.

Šaćirbej tvrdi da je taj dogovor i pristanak SAD na Miloševićeve uslove bio nešto između žutog i zelenog svetla za vojne akcije u okolini Srebrenice. „Drugi deo sporazuma Administracije SAD i Miloševića bio je dozvoliti referendum za otcepljenje RS i njeno pripajanje Srbiji, na čemu sada insistira Dodik. Izgleda da Dodik i drugi upotrebljavaju to kao ucenu, pre svega prema Stejt departmentu, gde većina ljudi zna da je takav sporazum postojao i sada ne bi želeli da to izađe u javnost”, kaže on.

Šaćirbej nije želeo da potvrdi da je to bio zvaničan sporazum. „To je bio sporazum s nekim Amerikancima, da RS dobije pravo na samoopredeljenje. Znam da je tadašnja državna sekretarka Medlin Olbrajt pokušala da zaustavi taj deo jer je znala za opasnost, ne samo za Srebrenicu nego za ugled SAD. Ne znam ko sada u Stejt departmentu zna za taj sporazum, ali znam da on postoji”, kaže Šaćirbej. (Večernje novosti)

The peoples voice can't be ignored:thumbsup:

[Saraj Fanático]

people should be allowed to vote and choose their own future and country and not be living in a country against their will

they should put it to a vote and see what happens it'll be 99% Serbs would want to seperate and 99% of Croats would want to seperate.... btw if RS is abolished there will be another war and no one wants that! or do you?


Well then we Bosnian should take some land in Croatia and try to split it and give it to Bosnia. Hows that sound?

herceg Bosna doesnt exist. its Bosna herceg. It cant be anation since it wouldnt stand on its own. And most Croats dont really care about Hercegovina eighter. Honestly when I was down iN Croatia everyone had Croatian Flags with the wordss 'Hrvatska' across it NOT 'Herceg Bosna'.

Nations cant be seperated by votes. Then everyone would do it. Only Montenegro did since it was basically a nation in Serbia and they were already about to leave eighter way.

[Saraj Fanático]

no man
republika srpska cant seperate
and so cant hercegovina
its all bosnian land, no matter what they want.. it cant seperate
republika srpska will sooner or later disappear...
it will be a bosnia
so if hercegovina and republika srpska splits off...
what is bosnia left with???
a small bosnia...
that cant happen
it would be nice, yeah making a greater country.. its like how would you feel if a big chunk of croatia wanted to split up and join bosnia or serb chunk of land wants to join bosnia.. its easy looking at you're own country
but i doubt they can leave
cuz its bosnian land


I am telling you this. If Hercegovina and Republika Srbska try to seperate I will enlist for the Army to take it all back. I will fight for a United Bosnia, and I would rather die before seeing these 'Herceg Bosna' and Republika Srbska supporters destroy and seperate my nation on purpose.

[Saraj Fanático]

BU has just send you a PM, and be fair and say the truth:rolleyes: .

I said be whoever you want too, didnt i ?

So many times i have said, i dont care who is who and chear for Serbia,Croatia or Russia, whoever you want to BUT LETS LIVE IN PEACE.


Dude dont call him Serbian. He is like the coolest dude I have seen on here. I would want everyone to follow his example. He is calling himself as a Bosnian and I think there is alot of heart there. he is smart since he knows that he is born in BiH and he is suppose to love it and that is how people should behave, not want to poison Bosnia but to love it as a United state.

[Saraj Fanático]

Now don't get pissed, I just want you to know this.

I have called myself Serbian before and I never will again. I also supported Serbia NT in the past as my number one team as well and I don't anymore. I want you to know that I did this because, I believe it or not felt isolated out of being Bosnian by the Muslim community. I never felt right about this and from experience I have figured out that you if are Muslim are not any more Bosnian than me.

I live in a big Bosnian Muslim community here in the USA and they were my main cause for this. Always calling me Serbian and they didn't even know where I was from. They just knew my stupid russian name. Sadly these people don't even speak Bosnian they speak Croatian and I can't believe I allowed myself to have them say this. My parents never told me what was what and never told me to take one side. They always talked down on the actions of all 3 armies and 3 presidents. Now I have matured, grown above my age, and I have figured it out.

The worst thing I can do is call myself Serbian and have you take advantage of me. If this happens I can only hate you like most of RS, but knowing that I am as much Bosnian as you are I can live in peace with you and it feels good knowing you are my people. You are more like me than any Serbian out of Serbia and if we let religion get in our way we are only separating ourselves when we should be like a family and we all know how family is important in to us Bosnians :).

Be whatever you wish man. Dont let a group of Dumbasses make you feel like something else.

Remember this, being Bosnian is not being Muslim. Heck being Afghnistani isnt being muslim eighter. Its your place of origin.

[Milos_]

Kinda like being Yugoslavian wasnt being Croatian,Serbian or Bosnian?;) isti put brate...

[Saraj Fanático]

If you say so....

Šaćirbej: SAD obećale RS referendum
stana - 18. septembar 2006.

Bivši ambasador BiH u UN Muhamed Šaćirbej kaže da su SAD obećale Republici Srpskoj referendum o izdvajanju iz BiH. Šaćirbej je za NTV Hajat iz Sarajeva rekao da su pre potpisivanja Dejtonskog sporazuma predstavnici SAD obećali da će u budućnosti Republici Srpskoj biti omogućen referendum za otcepljenje od Bosne i Hercegovine, pišu Večernje novosti. Šaćirbej tvrdi da upravo zato Milorad Dodik, premijer RS, u poslednje vreme forsira priču o samoopredeljenju. Šaćirbej tvrdi da su SAD, dok je on bio u mirovnim pregovorima za vreme rata, tražile od bivšeg predsednika Jugoslavije Slobodana Miloševića da kaže šta treba da učine da bi on seo za pregovarački sto.

„Milošević je tražio da Srbima pripadnu enklave u istočnoj Bosni, odnosno Srebrenica, Žepa i Goražde. Milošević, predsednik SAD Bil Klinton, predstavnik SAD Ričard Holbruk i predstavnik Ujedinjenih nacija za SFRJ Jasuši Akaši postigli su dogovor o tome da Srbima budu predate te enklave. Administracija SAD nagovarala nas je da predamo te zone, ali niko od nas, ni predsednik BiH Alija Izetbegović, ni premijer BiH Haris Silajdžić, ni ja nismo želeli da to prihvatimo”, kaže Šaćirbej.

Šaćirbej tvrdi da je taj dogovor i pristanak SAD na Miloševićeve uslove bio nešto između žutog i zelenog svetla za vojne akcije u okolini Srebrenice. „Drugi deo sporazuma Administracije SAD i Miloševića bio je dozvoliti referendum za otcepljenje RS i njeno pripajanje Srbiji, na čemu sada insistira Dodik. Izgleda da Dodik i drugi upotrebljavaju to kao ucenu, pre svega prema Stejt departmentu, gde većina ljudi zna da je takav sporazum postojao i sada ne bi želeli da to izađe u javnost”, kaže on.

Šaćirbej nije želeo da potvrdi da je to bio zvaničan sporazum. „To je bio sporazum s nekim Amerikancima, da RS dobije pravo na samoopredeljenje. Znam da je tadašnja državna sekretarka Medlin Olbrajt pokušala da zaustavi taj deo jer je znala za opasnost, ne samo za Srebrenicu nego za ugled SAD. Ne znam ko sada u Stejt departmentu zna za taj sporazum, ali znam da on postoji”, kaže Šaćirbej. (Večernje novosti)

The peoples voice can't be ignored:thumbsup:


Face it they do this every time. Republiks Srbska is seperating! its seperating! And at the end you hit the reality wall. Boom! Your still in BiH.

Why would you want Republika Srbska to seperate? Do you know many serbs are suffering there since poverty is growing?

[())__Green__))>]

yeah
bosnia will stay like this
republika srpska can try and work as hard as they want
but in the end they will realize it was just a waste
cuz it will sooner or later disappear and it will be a united bosnia

[Milos_]

You cant force people to live in a country they dont belive in(see Yugoslavia) and if you think the people of Republika Srpska will give up,well my friend thats just wishful thinking;)

Hope dies last.

[())__Green__))>]

if hercegovina and republika srpska seperate
i will fight for bosnia and try to win it back..
croatia and serbia have nothing to do with this, they cant attack us..
its a bosnian issue
and should be handled by bosnia only
no one else.. america already created this mess
i hope they dont stick their nose in our business anymore
fusion is an example of a true bosnian..
his history comes from serbian background born in bosnia
and yet he still calls himself bosnian
its rare to see these types of people

[())__Green__))>]

You cant force people to live in a country they dont belive in(see Yugoslavia) and if you think the people of Republika Srpska will give up,well my friend thats just wishful thinking

Hope dies last.
no.. we never said they will give up.. i said they will work their asses off
and in the end it will all fail and they will realize they worked all this time for nothing
cuz the fact of the matter is, that republika is bosnian and will always be bosnian land :lol:

[Pape]

Bosnia till the day I die, even if it separates. I have a uncle who fled to Beograd during the war and he still calls himself Bosnian there..

[Milos_]

Whatever makes you feel better:D

You are trying to create what you fought to destroy,mini-Yugoslavia will end the same way the Original did.

Blood.

[Saraj Fanático]

You cant force people to live in a country they dont belive in(see Yugoslavia) and if you think the people of Republika Srpska will give up,well my friend thats just wishful thinking;)

Hope dies last.


What cracks me up the most is that you are see yourself as a Serbian and love Serbia but why do you care about Republik Srbska? Do you want to know what a Serb quoted when Serbian TV asked him for his opinion about the Poverty crisis in RS? He quoted 'Jebe se meni za karadzica i Republiku Srbsku, hocu da nesta zaradim i da imam nesta jest'. Thats how much people like it there. I was going to Igman and I saw what parts of RS looks like. Terrible.

Why do you want Bosnia to get screwed so much? Does it hurt you so much that we are finally independent?

When do you see Bosnians ever bitch about 'hey free Sandzak!' NEVER! Because our interest is in our nation first then other places. I suggest Serbia to follow Croatias example of staying out of our business since Serbia is in no position of mixing with our troubles. And a RS breakup will result in a attack on Banja Luka with another bloody war. So who will you blame when there are thousands killed again? Bosniaks? We both dont want another bloody war again.

If RS goes, so will Sandzak and Kosovo.

[Milos_]

This discussion was pretty one sided and me being the only Serb here I needed to add the other sides arguments,I know having everyone agree with you is nice but...;)

I dont want Bosna to get screwed I dont reallly care but you cant ignore the peoples voice or reality.

If you want Sandzak to go you sould talk to the CrnoGorci too;)

[())__Green__))>]

lol man
if there is a genocide in bosnia
we know who will win
no one will be stupid enough to have genocide against dominant group lol
the most there will be is riots and shit
if serbia and croatia get involved.. that would be a dumb move
but there won't be a genocide
for what.. making republika srpska disappear like it will eventually??
why do people actually care about bosnian land..
how come they are not worried about losing crna gora and making serbia smaller/weaker
why try and get something out of bosnia
we are independant and republika srpska is ours and always be that way
i respect people like fusion.. true bosnians :thumbsup:
even though most i have met cant admit they are bosnian
and just say they are fully serb

[())__Green__))>]

cuz it would be pretty stupid
if republika srpska splits, that would mean genocide is ok and that its a right way of life
and if you want land, you should commit genocide
thats not the case
cuz serbia thought it would be a greater serbia.. and wanted the whole bosnia
but then we fought off and defended and then they realized we were fighting back and pushing them
what im trying to say is... serbia got nothing out of this
neither did croatia or bosnia
just war created more problems
milosevic.. :thumbsdow

[Bosnian Unit]

Whatever makes you feel better:D

You are trying to create what you fought to destroy,mini-Yugoslavia will end the same way the Original did.

Blood.


I don't know are you aware of this but month ago people were voting what they want in BIH.

It was organized by Nezavisne Novine based in Banja Luka, and Dnevni Avaz in Sarajevo.

Over 90% of Bosniaks said they have nothing against living in BIH together with Serbs or Croats and others.

Over 40% Bosniaks said they have nothing against mixed marriage's.

Over 65% Serbs said they have nothing against living in BiH together with Bosniak,Croats and others.

Over 35% Serbs said they have nothing against mixed marriage's.


Over 75% of Croats have nothing against living in BIH together with Bosniaks,Serbs and others.

Over 30% of Croats have nothing against mixed marriage's.


Lets not forget this is Bosnia & Herzegovina, before war just in Sarajevo there was over 100.000 mixed marriage's.


But Jews are ready 100% to live together in BIH with other people, but not even 1% of them said they would accept mixed marriage's.


I'll try to find that article just so you cant say its a BS.



P.S. They all agreed if economy was better they would not be politicly oriented as much as they are now. They say its becouse they have nothing else to do :rolleyes: .

[Milos_]

Why would I say its BS?The same pools were done during Yugo's time and the results were higher;)

Did you see the pool where 95% of Serbs wanted to join Serbia?

You are all very hypocrtical,its ok for you all to say that Yugoslavia was bad and you want to be free but when Bosnian Serbs say the same thing about Bosna you have a problem.Halo ljudi

Maybe RS would have less Serbs if they werent forced to leave Sarajevo and other areas;) tsk tsk bias.

[Ero]

Well then we Bosnian should take some land in Croatia and try to split it and give it to Bosnia. Hows that sound?
well when bosniaks have 500 000 people living together around the border than yeah go ahead but only 20 000 bosniaks live in Croatia! not over 500 000 like Croats in BiH

herceg Bosna doesnt exist. its Bosna herceg. It cant be anation since it wouldnt stand on its own. And most Croats dont really care about Hercegovina eighter. Honestly when I was down iN Croatia everyone had Croatian Flags with the wordss 'Hrvatska' across it NOT 'Herceg Bosna'.
why would people in lika or Dalmacija have the herceg bosna flag? thats just stupid.... go down to ljubuski, posusje ect and see 100's of herceg bosna flags draped everywhere !

Nations cant be seperated by votes. Then everyone would do it. Only Montenegro did since it was basically a nation in Serbia and they were already about to leave eighter way.
if kosovo splits from serbia than RS will split from BiH and if RS splits than herceg bosna will split bih

[Pape]

Milose just stfu you have nothing to do with Bosnia..

[Milos_]

If there were other Serbs I would:D but I just cant read this

Time to study bye brothers;)

[Pape]

your sigs too heigh

[())__Green__))>]

kk
kosova was albanian land
republika srpska is bosnian land
hercegovina is bosnian land
you do know people are caring less and less about hercegovina and republika srpska
since they hate the conditions down there
no way they can seperate
no matter how much they try
serbs from serbia have nothing to do with this
they just want to see a bigger serbia
but that wont happen
this is about the bosniaks, bosnian serbs and bosnian croats
and we have to clear it up that they can't seperate from us

[Ero]

Hercegovina is not Bosnian land it's Hercegovinian land, only Bosnia is Bosnian land!!

you guys should try to look at it from croats and serbs point of view and not just yours

[Pape]

the way this is going every selo in Bosnia will be a separate country....

[())__Green__))>]

cant be a seperate country
kk croats took that land from us and made it hercegovina
serbs took their part and made it republika srpska
and yes.. once you realize that people in hercegovina don't care as much
and people from republika srpska don't care as much as they did
then you will realize
that it will be one united bosnia
like i said
some people (bosniak muslims) are currently in the republika srpska government trying to break it off and make one united bosnia