Calderon o Lopez Obrador?

[handofgod]

Dudes, sometimes the news get distorted, so I wanted to ask you what's your take on the current political divide in Mexico and if you consider that fraud was indeed made last presidential elections?

[mawin312]

Calderon.

[Cell]

Obrador

[el chingon]

calderon. and i dont think there was fraud

[caruiz93]

the truth is that calderon won the elections and obrador is accusing about fraud with out any proof.

no matter if there was fraud or not,obrador has no proof.

[Cell]

caruiz your 13 years old and you know about mexican politics?
thas weird!!! but obrador was here for the people!!!

[el chingon]

yea there's no proof about fraud. even if there is you still need proof to back it up

[caruiz93]

caruiz your 13 years old and you know about mexican politics?
thas weird!!! but obrador was here for the people!!!


yeah dude not only do i know about mexican politics but politics from many countries.ive read like 10 books about the september 11 atacks and stuff.i just do my own thing you know i keep to myself most of the time all i pretty much do is play soccer,talk about soccer(pretty much on this website because noone in the usa is really that much into soccer that knows about international leagues),read about politics,and study.im what you can call a nerd that wears too much american eagle.

[caruiz93]

obrador is there for the people but what he is doidng makes no sense.
he is trying to give money and programs to help out the poor people by charging the rich people more taxes and therefore they are not as rich anymore but what should happen in mexico is actually give opportunities to the rich people to creat businesses and therefore creating jobs for the poor people.

[keepfrancoout]

Lopez Obrador, it's mexico's so there is always fraud. Plus Lopez actually cares about the indegonous people's rigths unlike most of the Mexican government.

[dreamsmaker]

I am in Mexico, I am living the post election trouble...believe me...Lopez Obrador is insane...... his way is the same than Chavez in Venezuela or even worse like Fidel in Cuba... populism has no place in today`s Mexico...
He wants a new Constitution, one that favor him...not the people of Mexico
anyone that symphatize with Lopez has no clue what this guy is capable to do in order to get power.. Calderon is going to keep the nation in the same track that the last 3 goberns.. even Madrazo could be better.. but thanks God he did not win either.....

[Calif]

Felipe Calderon!!!!!!!!

[tronxz28]

Actually , all the candidates were just a bunch of "cabrones". We know that. So basically it was a matter of chossing the one that is not as worst as the others.

In that case, it was good that Felipe Calderon won the elections. There was no fraud. Obrador just enjoys the role of victim and he is trying to get something he did not win.

Basically the ideologies of Mexico are divided now between south and north. The south voted for Obrador where there are more indegenous people and more poverty and less development. The north voted for Calderon.

Tha bad thing about a lot of the people that voted for Obrador is that they think he was going to help them. These people barely have some education and thus they can tricked easily.

With the ideas that Obrador had, he was going to sink Mexico in a matter of a few years. Something must be done in order to distribute better the money in mexico and to give people opportunities but doing things just using brute force does not help much.

[el chingon]

yea i dont think there was fraud either. hopefully calderon turns out to be a good president

[dannymex]

well lets hope calderon makes wise decisions and helps mexico move forward... remember you cant fix 80 years ( or how many ever years that the PRI was in power) of currption in only a couple years. Its gonna take time and i think fox did a decent job at trying to turn things around, hopefully calderon will do better.

[caruiz93]

obrador cares about the people but he is showing that all he cares about is having power doidng what he is doing right njow!

[Calif]

Yes I am hoping Felipe Calderon to do good job like Vicente Fox has been doing!!!!!

[Xizor]

Calderon looks like he will be a good president. Did you guys hear that the Mexican government is trying to legalize cocane?

[el chingon]

it already is legalized!!! but you can only have a small portion

[Cell]

Excellent!! That's all i need!!! :lol:

[caruiz93]

lol

[Xizor]

it already is legalized!!! but you can only have a small portion

Cool! :smoking:

[Calif]

Calderon looks like he will be a good president. Did you guys hear that the Mexican government is trying to legalize cocane?

I heard that just like they want to legalize it here for medical purposes supposebly!!!!!:lol:

[Xizor]

I heard that just like they want to legalize it here for medical purposes supposebly!!!!!:lol:

I think they're trying to legalize weed here in the US.

[el chingon]

Excellent!! That's all i need!!! :lol:
haha yea all drugs are legalized in mexico!!!! read this article......

Mexico's Congress Legalizes Drugs for Personal Use
Friday, April 28, 2006


Fast Facts: What Would Be Legal in Mexico?
MEXICO CITY — Mexico's Congress approved a bill Friday decriminalizing possession of small amounts of marijuana, ecstasy, cocaine and heroin for personal use — a measure sure to raise questions in Washington about Mexico's commitment to the war on drugs.

The only remaining step was the signature of President Vicente Fox, whose office indicated he would sign it.

Supporters said the law would let police focus on drug smuggling, rather than on busting casual users. The bill also would stiffen many drug-related penalties: for trafficking, for possession near schools, and for possession of even small quantities by government employees.

Criminal penalties for drug sales would remain on the books.

"We can't close our eyes to this reality," said Sen. Jorge Zermeno, of Fox's conservative National Action Party. "We cannot continue to fill our jails with people who have addictions."

The administration of U.S. President George W. Bush scrambled to come up with a response.

"We're still studying the legislation, but any effort to decriminalize illegal drugs would not be helpful," a U.S. diplomat said on condition of anonymity.

[Xizor]

Ummmmm, is that right?

[keepfrancoout]

I think the US stoped this bill, or a least pushed the mexican government to do so, I guest their afraid of people in southern states making drug trips down to Mexico. They should've gone through with it though, it would increase tourism like it does for Amsterdam, plus all drugs should be legal everywhere anyway.

[dannymex]

I think the US stoped this bill, or a least pushed the mexican government to do so, I guest their afraid of people in southern states making drug trips down to Mexico. They should've gone through with it though, it would increase tourism like it does for Amsterdam, plus all drugs should be legal everywhere anyway.


i agree.

[Calif]

Obrador dice que van a interrumpir cuando el cambio de poder cuando fox le entrege la presidencia a felipe calderon!!!!!!

[dannymex]

Obrador dice que van a interrumpir cuando el cambio de poder cuando fox le entrege la presidencia a felipe calderon!!!!!!

thats bullshit, why doesnt he just give up. I mean he wasnt elected and there really isnt any evidence of fraud... it seems that he just wants to take over by force. How can he not get into his head that the majority of mexico doesnt want him as president. Honestly i dont really like Calderon all that much, but i think that mexico would be worse of with a president like Obrador, I dont think mexico is ready for a socialist type of government.

[caruiz93]

i think that legalizing small ammounts of drugs make sense.
i mean why chase poeple that have 1 gram of drugs when you can be focusing all your strengths in cathing someone with 1 ton of drugs.

[juanca]

yeah dude not only do i know about mexican politics but politics from many countries.ive read like 10 books about the september 11 atacks and stuff.i just do my own thing you know i keep to myself most of the time all i pretty much do is play soccer,talk about soccer(pretty much on this website because noone in the usa is really that much into soccer that knows about international leagues),read about politics,and study.im what you can call a nerd that wears too much american eagle.


so im not alone! :D

[Xizor]

Legalizing drugs in Mexico is ok because it seems to be under control over their but in the US I'm not sure. Just imagine crack heads in every corner, that would make our country look bad!

[caruiz93]

yeah,isolated drug addicts are not many in mexico but the problem is big time drug dealers selling the drugs to the usa.

[Xizor]

Do you guys think if they do legalize drugs in the US all people will start using them?

[caruiz93]

not all but most

[Mexi]

i guess the ones who use them illegally will use them more and more ppl will try them

btw me cae mejor Calderon

[Calif]

alguien a escuchado la locura de obrador de que el quiere crear su propio govierno is this guy insane or what??????

[Cell]

no, he's a patriot!!!

[dannymex]

no, he's a patriot!!!


at that point he stops being a patriot and starts looking more like he wants to take power anyway he can. (by force) and that in my opinion is not very patriotic at all.

[Cell]

at that point he stops being a patriot and starts looking more like he wants to take power anyway he can. (by force) and that in my opinion is not very patriotic at all.

He waqnts to change Mexico from USA's bitch to Dignified Country.

[dannymex]

He waqnts to change Mexico from USA's bitch to Dignified Country.

that may be but i think he might be going at it the wrong way.

[dreamsmaker]

He waqnts to change Mexico from USA's bitch to Dignified Country.
B S !!!!!!!!!!!!!

[dreamsmaker]

alguien a escuchado la locura de obrador de que el quiere crear su propio govierno is this guy insane or what??????
Su " gobierno legitimo " es igual al del Rey Feo del carnaval de Veracruz o la Reina del desfile.. pobre loquito y mas pobres los que lo siguen

[dreamsmaker]

http://www.elnorte.com/carton/calderon/img/200060919.jpg

[Calif]

Su " gobierno legitimo " es igual al del Rey Feo del carnaval de Veracruz o la Reina del desfile.. pobre loquito y mas pobres los que lo siguen

Pero Imaginense si deverdad eso sucede seria una locura!!!!porque segun las elecciones casi la mitad de Mexico apoyaba a Obrador entonces seria un Mexico dividido pero no creo que pase!!!!

[Xizor]

Viva Mexico cabrones, whooooooooooooo!