FIFA Club World Cup

[el chingon]

i know its 4 months away to make a thread about this but im too excited about this!!!! i want to see america play against the best teams in the world!!!






1. Teams A, B, C, D, to be drawn among the following:
- AFC Champions League winner
- CAF Champions League winner
- CONCACAF Champions Cup winner
- OFC Club Championship winner

2. Team E to be the CONMEBOL Copa Libertadores winner

3. Team F to be the UEFA Champions League winner

[el chingon]

Countires that will participate:

CLUB AMERICA (MEXICO)
INTERNACIONAL (BRAZIL)
AUCKLAND CITY FC (NEW ZEALAND)
FC BARCELONA (SPAIN)


the 2 other teams will be decided in the CAF Champions League 2006, and the
AFC Champions League 2006


AFC Champions League Schedule:
Quarter-finals:

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13 September 2006
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20 September 2006


Semi-finals:

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27 September 2006
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18 October 2006


Finals:

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1 November 2006
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7-8 November 2006




CAF Champions League Schedule:
Semi-finals:

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29 September-1 October 2006
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13-15 October 2006

Finals:

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27-29 October 2006
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10-12 November 2006

[mawin312]

4 months away and already a thread? :mad2:

[el chingon]

haha yea im excited about this!!!!! maybe yor mad that america will be World Champions!!!

[tronxz28]

I hope they do not play like they did with atlas or then they will spend more time in a plane than in japan.

[el chingon]

yea hopefully they get better. i dont want my team get embarrased in front of viewers from different countries

[mawin312]

Its not like anyone cares about this tournament anyways.:ronaldo:

[Calif]

I do I care!!!!http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com//images/smilies/ronaldo.GIF

[el chingon]

Its not like anyone cares about this tournament anyways.:ronaldo:
:worried: :worried:

[el chingon]

I do I care!!!!http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com//images/smilies/ronaldo.GIF
see now theres 2 people here that care!!!!!;)

[mawin312]

two is nothing!!!:smoking:

[el chingon]

ok well all the america players think is important!!! so thats like 20+ more

[Cell]

I care. The World Cup of Clubs bring out very rare matchups. Imagine Auckland City vs America, or Al Itthad vs America. I like it when people from different countries hear about us by getting defeated by us.

[rojinegro13]

Yeah and its another opurtunity for the players to be seen by other clubs so they can go to europe.

[Xizor]

This is the only time I will go for America just because they are representing Mexico in the FIFA Club World Cup. :sad:

[Calif]

Go Barcelona all the way!!!!!

[Xizor]

Go Barcelona all the way!!!!!

Hell yeah! :mad2:

[el chingon]

Hell yeah! :mad2:

what happened to this???..........
This is the only time I will go for America just because they are representing Mexico in the FIFA Club World Cup.

[el chingon]

i know this thread will go dead so its my job to keep it alive!!!!!!!

[el chingon]

Host country

Japan

Although British sailors had introduced the sport to Japan in 1873 as the country opened its doors to the West, the Japan Football Association (JFA) was not formed until 1921 – a date that also saw the birth of the Emperor's Cup, the islands’ oldest competition. The land, known by locals as Nihon Koku, had hosted the Far East Games four years previously but the Asian nation had to wait another eight years, 1929, before it became a full member of FIFA.

There were early signs then that Japan would be a force to reckoned with, but the onset of the Second World War (1939-45) and its aftermath, notably the reconstruction under American influence, meant football, a form of which (Kemari) had been part of Japanese culture associated with the Shinto religion, became rather overshadowed by baseball and the more traditional sumo.

In fact Japan did not make a significant mark in the game until they captured the Asian Cup in 1992. Since then, helped by the professional championship J-League that was introduced a year later, the Far East nation has won the past two editions of Asia’s biggest tournament and been catapulted into the upper echelons of world football.

Associated with a unique, short-passing, technically adept style – far removed from that of many other of their continental cousins, Japan reached their first FIFA World Cup in 1998, got to the Final of the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2001 and, in a tournament they also co-hosted with Korea Republic, impressed at the 2002 FIFA World Cup, making the Round of 16.

Initial growth in club football took place following Japan’s surprise bronze medal success at the Mexico Olympics in 1968. The Japan Soccer League (JSL), made up of teams linked to universities or sponsored by companies, had been formed four years earlier but it was not until the 1980s that advertisers, amazed by the numbers watching European football, realised there was huge support for football.

Pre-dating the J-league, the Toyota Cup, pitting the best side from Europe and South America in a one-off match played in Japan from 1981, further whetted the appetite of the Japanese public. Sensing a change, the JFA were not slow to seize the moment. They set up specific programmes with a strong commitment to youth which bore fruits when they finished runners-up at the FIFA World Youth Championship Nigeria 1999.

To improve standards, quality foreign players were invited to perform in the J-League. Current national coach Zico was one of many Brazilians to have left a deep impression on the style of the Japanese game. Significant too in Japan football’s amazing rise has been the success of players in Europe’s top leagues. Since Hidetoshi Nakata broke the mould when he moved to Perugia a decade ago, Shinji Ono (Feyenoord, Holland), Shunsuke Nakamura (Reggina, Italy) and Yoshito Okubo (Real Mallorca, Spain) have followed in his trailblazing steps.

Success has brought with it enormous popularity and today, both through fans and journalists, Japan is one of the best supported national teams in the world. In 2005, 18 teams will compete in the evolving J-League with the country due to host the next two FIFA Club World Championships.

Country Information
By the 9th Century, the Samurai, a warrior class, had begun to threaten the hegemony of the emperors’ rule in Japan. Their military leaders, shoguns, effectively took over the country’s government from Kamakura (later Tokyo), while the emperor, shorn of much power, remained in Kyoto. Rejecting foreign influence, trade and Christianity in preference for the traditional Shinto religion, this feudal society persisted until the late 19th Century. In 1868 the last shogun, Yoshinobu Tokugawa, was replaced by the emperor Meiji and westernisation began.

Economy
Occupied by the Allies until 1952, the Japanese economy, helped by sizeable western investment, recovered at a phenomenal rate from the War. By the 1980s, the Asian nation, now a constitutional monarchy with a parliamentary government, had become the world's most successful export economy, looking towards the future and specialising in electronics, robotics, computing, banking and car manufacturing. Recession burst the bubble in the 1990s and growth slowed dramatically, producing a succession of government changes.

While raw materials and fuel are scarce, the country’s subsidised agricultural production is among the most high yielding in the world. Japan’s fishermen net 15% of the world’s catch, but government debt remains a worry. Behind U.S. and China, Japan is the world’s third largest economy.

Geography and facts
Japan is situated in East Asia between the Sea of Japan and the Pacific Ocean. It is composed of four main islands: Hokkaido to the north, Kyushu and Shikoku to the south with the central Honshu housing most of the nation’s 127 million population. A mountainous country composed of 47 prefectures, Japan possesses an aging population (19% over 65), 99% of which are of Japanese ethnicity. Twelve million people live in the capital Tokyo with Osaka, Kyoto other main cities.

[el chingon]

VENUES:
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Toyota City



Located in the centre of Japan's main Honshu Island, Toyota City is, as you would imagine, a place dominated by one of the world's leading car manufacturers. In the early part of the last century under its former name of Koromo, the town was undergoing steady decline as demand fell for its main commodity, raw silk. However since 1934, when automobile producers were invited to build their factories there, the area has prospered with the population rocketing to today's 350,000, 25 times higher than the figure in 1930. In 1959 Koromo officially became Toyota City.

Surrounded by acres of rice paddy fields and vegetable, peach and pear farms in the Aichi prefecture near Nagoya, Toyota City is far more than simply a home for car workers. There is a nature park nearby, which from 25 March-25 September 2005 will be the scene of EXPO 2005 - the world's first fair of the 21st Century. And helped by the company's international outlook, its residents are among the most broadminded of Japanese, having taken advantage of opportunities to travel far and wide.

While it may be regarded as a city of the future, there is plenty of history in the neighbourhood. Toyota is the homeland of the Matsudaira clan, from which Ieyasu Tokugawa came from to lay the foundations of the Edo shogunate (1603-1867). Tokugawa emerged victorious nearby at the Battle of Nagakute (1584) in one of the greatest military engagements in Japanese history.

Stadium
Completed in 2001 to mark the city's 50th birthday, Toyota Stadium is a state-of-the-art football-specific ground complete with a retractable roof. Earmarked as one of Japan's venues for the 2002 FIFA World Cup, it was ultimately discarded from the final list of ten. With the capacity to hold 45,000 spectators close to the action, the ground is said to be a favourite among supporters and players alike. One of the group matches will be played here during the tournament.

Club
Nagoya Grampus Eight, one of the founding members of the 12-team J-League in 1992, play many of their matches at the futuristic Toyota Stadium. Although the Toyota-sponsored club have not had great success in recent times, Grampus Eight, nicknamed the Noble Barbarians, can count Arsenal's French coach Arsene Wenger and former England striker Gary Lineker among the stars that have walked through their doors.

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Tokyo



Fast-paced, high-tech and eye catching, Tokyo is a place like no other where 12 million people live, rather tightly, in a metropolis constantly being reinvented. Nothing seems to stand still for too long as the country's traditional past and electronic, gadget-driven future fuse in perfect harmony. Devastated by the Kanto earthquake of 1923 and flattened by bombing during World War II, Tokyo has emerged from the ruins with a powerful personality all of its own. Flashing Neon lights and overland monorails collide with traditional food shops giving off the smells and smoke of local cuisine.

Often described as a city of villages, Tokyo is connected by a network of transport types as its inhabitants hustle and bustle about the shopping areas of Shibuya and Shinjuku, the Blade Runneresque Roppongi to the ultra-trendy Ginza. And despite the mammoth changes that have forced the reshaping of the city, Japanese traditions still persist - particularly in the artisan quarters that remain from the days when Tokyo was geographically split among trades.

Originally called Edo, Tokyo became the administrative heart of Japan from the 1600s when it grew remarkably fast to be the world's most populous city with a million souls packed within its walls by the 17th Century. It did not become Japan's official capital however until the 1860s at the end of the Edo dynasty of shogunates when it replaced Kyoto. With the opening up of the country to the west in the late 19th Century, the city has expanded and evolved - but Tokyo would never have achieved its individual look if it were not for the necessary years of fast post-war development and acceptance of western influences.

With many museums, glitzy nightlife, fine food and extensive shopping, a favourite hobby of Japanese, there is much to see, do and learn in Japan's main metropolis.

Stadium
Situated in the heart of Tokyo, the National Stadium is steeped in tradition having hosted the 1964 Olympic Games, the 1958 Asian Games and the 1971 World Track & Field Championships. Now coming up to its 50th birthday, the 60,000-capacity ground continues to host important football matches including the Emperor's Cup every year. Three matches during the tournament will be played here.

Clubs
Although no club can call it home, two teams have played some matches here in the past. Tokyo FC, formerly Tokyo Gas, and Tokyo Verdy 1969.

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Yokohama



Japan’s second largest city with a population of 3.4m, Yokohama has evolved in the past century from a tiny port of a few houses to become a major business and commercial centre. Although just half an hour from downtown Tokyo, the city has built its own unique look and atmosphere far removed from that of the Japanese capital.

Foreigners have very much been associated with Yokohama since the end of the Edo shogunate (1603-1867) and in 1859 the fishing village became one of the first to open its doors to outside trade. Since then it has grown at a devastating rate to its presence size, which, along with Tokyo, represents the largest urban sprawl in the world. With its western-style houses, giant towers, futuristic fairground and one of the planet’s largest Chinatowns it is a city like few others.

If its peculiar face were not enough to tempt visitors, Yokohama boasts plenty of museums and, thanks to its foreign influence, has a choice of food to entice most people’s thoughts. While there’s little history to speak off in the city itself, Kamakura, Japan’s capital in the 12th Century, lies relatively unspoilt 15 kilometres away.

Stadium
Completed in 1997 in readiness for the 2002 FIFA World Cup™, the International Stadium Yokohama lies 6km to the north of the city centre. With a capacity of 72,370, it is the country’s largest ground and was the setting of the last FIFA World Cup final between Brazil and Germany and hosted matches during the FIFA Confederations Cup in 2001. Although there is some distance between the stands and the pitch, the stadium has excellent facilities for television and will play host to three matches during the FIFA Club World Championship including the final.

Club
Yokohama is considered one of Japan’s more football friendly cities and until 1998 when the Flugels were forced by bankruptcy into joining crosstown rivals Marinos, the city was home to two popular J-League sides. Last season Yokohama F. Marinos claimed their second successive title and are now in the running for the AFC Champions League, which, if they won, would give them home advantage at the FIFA Club World Championship.

[el chingon]

Inter take title and a place in Japan

International's captain Fernandao (L) celebrates with Fabiano Eller after his goal in the second leg of the Copa Libertadores final against Sao Paulo.
(REUTERS) Paulo Withaker



On an evening of heart-stopping action Internacional of Porto Alegre secured their first Copa Libertadores de America when they drew 2-2 with defending champions Sao Paulo at the Beira-Rio Stadium on Wednesday. Following their 2-1 win in last week's first leg, the result saw the Gauchos claim the most important title in their history and with it a place at the FIFA Club World Cup.

The new kings of South America went ahead twice through Fernandao and Tinga, with the deposed champions' pulling level both times through Fabao and Lenilson. "We're so excited about winning the cup," said an ecstatic Fernandao, who ended the night as the tournament's top scorer. "Lots of great players have played here but never managed to win the Libertadores, and we did it by beating the world champions."

[Xizor]

what happened to this???..........

Hey man Barcelona is my favorite European team so if they don't win I will be rutting for America just because they're representing Mexico!

[el chingon]

^^^ o ok just making things clear

[Xizor]

http://www.aabsport.dk/92405D3E-8A92-4F4B-AD20-C2CC5701EFA8
For Life Hommie!

[el chingon]

hahaha no mames

[Xizor]

hahaha

De que te ries wuey?

[el chingon]

bueno pos a kien le vas en el mundial de clubes?? a america o a barcelona?

[Xizor]

Hey man Barcelona is my favorite European team so if they don't win I will be rutting for America just because they're representing Mexico!

Didin't you read what I posted? :redeyes:

[el chingon]

you got to pick one team!!!

[Xizor]

you got to pick one team!!!

Ok, Barcelona. :ronaldo:

[el chingon]

ok. and dont try to celebrate if america does a good job!!!

[Xizor]

ok. and dont try to celebrate if america does a good job!!!

Oh, believe me I wount!

[el chingon]

3 months now!!!!

[Xizor]

Vamos Barcelona let's kick some monkey ass!

[el chingon]

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Mundial de Clubes | El 12 de Octubre se efectuará el sorteo del Mundial de Clubes


MEDIOTIEMPO | Agencias
29 de Septiembre de 2006

* El Mundial se disputará entre el 10 y el 17 de Diciembre

El Barcelona conocerá a su rival en el Mundial de Clubes el próximo 12 de Octubre, tras el sorteo que se efectuará en el “Museo del Futbol Japonés”, en Tokio.

El Barcelona, como vencedor de la Champions League, y el Sport Club Internacional de Brasil, como vencedor de la Copa Libertadores, entran directamente en Semifinales y se enfrentarán con los vencedores de los dos partidos previos de Cuartos de Final.

El América, vencedor de la Copa de Campeones de la CONCACAF, los neozelandeses del Auckland City, ganadores del campeonato de clubes de la OFC, así como los vencedores de la Liga de Campeones de la AFC y de la Liga de Campeones de la CAF, que se conocerán en Noviembre, serán los protagonistas de esos partidos de Cuartos de Final.

La II Copa Mundial de Clubes se disputará entre el 10 y el 17 de Diciembre en las ciudades de Tokio, Toyota y Yokohama.

[el chingon]

el octubre 12 vamos a saber kien enfrentara a kien!!!

[Xizor]

Ojala que se enfrente America y Barcelona!

[Calif]

What quieres que eliminen al America!!!!Luego Luego!!!!

[Xizor]

Hell yeah!

[Calif]

Solamente faltas 2 meses para que empieze este torneo!!!!

[el chingon]

^^^ yea when i made it there was still 4 months left!!! time passes by quick!!!
before you know it america will be lifting the trophy:D

[Calif]

:lol: Hey Lo prometio La Puente tal y como dijo que ganarle a Chivas seria facil!!!! La Puente se esta volviendo como Vergara prometen y prometen!!!!!:lol:

[Xizor]

^^^ yea when i made it there was still 4 months left!!! time passes by quick!!!
before you know it america will be lifting the trophy:D

Maybe in your dreams dude! :lol:

[Calif]

El América podría enfrentar al Barcelona en el Mundial de Clubes

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Aún no tienen rival para la primera ronda


El vencedor del América de México y el Campeón de Asia será el rival del Barcelona español en la segunda Semifinal del Mundial de Clubes, a disputarse en Japón en Diciembre próximo.

Así lo determinó el sorteo celebrado hoy en la sede de la Federación de Futbol de Japón, donde el 14 de Diciembre de 2006 se jugará la citada Semifinal, en la urbe de Yokohama.

El zaguero mexicano del FC Barcelona, Rafael Márquez, se enfrentará a sus compatriotas si el América derrota en Cuartos de Final al Campeón del continente africano.

Los pupilos de Frank Rijkaard lograron su boleto directo a Semifinales del Mundial de Clubes gracias a su proclamación como reyes de la Liga de Campeones de Europa 2005-2006.

La última vez que ambos equipos se vieron las caras fue este verano durante la gira americana del Barça, que logró remontar un 4-1 en su contra y acabó el juego con un empate 4-4.

El estadio Reliant de Houston, Estados Unidos, fue el escenario del intenso duelo amistoso entre la entidad española y la mexicana, que podría repetirse en territorio nipón ya con carácter oficial.

En caso de que conquisten esta competición, los jugadores culés entrarían en la historia del Barcelona, pues sería la primera vez que esta entidad logra un título intercontinental.

Así, América espera al campeón de Asia, torneo que se encuentra en la fase de semifinales y donde participan Al Karama, de Siria; Al Qadisiya, de Kuwuait; y los clubes de Corea del Sur, Jeonbuk Motors y Ulsan Horang.

En la primera Semifinal, el 13 de Diciembre en la capitalina Tokio, el Campeón de la Copa Libertadores, el Internacional de Porto Alegre de Brasil, ya tiene su billete asegurado.

El conjunto brasileño se enfrentará al ganador de la eliminatoria entre el Auckland City de Nueva Zelanda y el vencedor de la Liga de Campeones Africana.

[Xizor]

No mames wuey! America vs. Barcelona, un masacre contado!

[Calif]

It would be great if America get's past their first rival!!!!

[Xizor]

El América conocerá a su rival del Mundial el 8 de Noviembre: http://www.mediotiempo.com/noticia.php?id_noticia=27607

[Calif]

Que bueno para saber como se tienen que preparar!!!!

[el chingon]

Hay plantel para la liga y el Mundial: Vuoso



por: Pedro Chávez
Fuente: Club América



Para Matías el equipo cuenta con suficientes jugadores para afrontar con éxito los dos compromisos; mañana no hay acceso a prensa






Hay plantel para la liga y el Mundial: Vuoso Para Matías el equipo cuenta con suficientes jugadores para afrontar los dos compromisos; mañana no hay acceso a prensa Pedro Chávez CIUDAD DE MÉXICO, México, octubre 25, 2006. Matías Vuoso atendió a los medios de comunicación, al término del entrenamiento de esta mañana. De entrada, el delantero argentino mostró sus satisfacción porque el equipo va por buen camino, aunque reconoció que falta regularidad.

“Vamos por buen camino. Quizá nos falta un poco de regularidad, no sólo ganar un partido, sino tratar de agarrar una racha para llegar bien a la liguilla”.

De la probabilidad de que se empalmen los calendarios de liga y del Mundial de Clubes, Matías dijo que era tema que debían resolverlo la directiva y el cuerpo técnico.

“Son cosas que deben manejarlo los dirigentes y el cuerpo técnico. Uno como jugador que lucha tanto para llegar supongamos a la semifinal, y después el tema de cambiar de torneo es medio difícil porque uno estuvo como seis meses trabajando para jugar eso. Pero creo que no es tema de los jugadores, sino de los dirigentes y el cuerpo técnico”.

Respecto a que si hay plantel para afrontar con éxito los dos compromisos, Vuoso dijo que: “Eso yo creo que tendría que verlo el técnico. Yo creo que hay plantel, que los jugadores que juegan y los que no juegan pueden hacer un buen torneo. Por eso están en América pues son jugadores de primera línea”.

Y agregó: “No se bien cuántos van al Mundial de Clubes y cuántos se pueden quedar acá. Aparte acá también el reglamento es que si no jugó hasta la decimoquinta fecha no pueden jugar jóvenes, es muy difícil también engarzar un plantel. Pero con lo que hay creo que tenemos un plantel bueno”.

Respecto a que si prefería quedarse para jugar la liga hasta el final, Vuoso comentó que: “La verdad eso se lo tendrían que preguntar al técnico. No sé qué va a pasar dentro de poco”.

Matías reconoció que la exigencia en América era mucha con tantos juegos y competencias, pero aclaró que todo el que llega a este club viene preparado para eso.

“La exigencia siempre va en cada jugador. Cuando se llega aquí sabe lo que significa y lo que representa. En mi conciencia está eso. Vine acá para eso”.

Y añadió: “Y después viene la Interliga. Es un club que demanda mucho , que tiene muchos partidos y que juega muchas cosas. Pero hay que estar siempre preparados para lo que viene”.

Al tocar nuevamente el tema de los calendarios de liga y del Mundial de Clubes, Matías señalo que: “Siempre se dice que cuando un equipo mexicano juega competencias internacionales lo van a apoyar. Esperemos que pase lo mismo con nosotros”.

Y agregó: “Creo que también se podía haber hecho otra fecha doble pero no lo hicieron para apoyar al Toluca y al Pachuca que tienen también un calendario muy grande. Si el torneo terminara antes podríamos irnos a Japón tranquilamente”.

Del cierre del torneo local, el argentino dijo que no había rival fácil y que lo primordial era entrar a la liguilla.

“Está demostrado en el futbol mexicano por como están las posiciones, que no hay rival fácil. El tema es entrar a la liguilla. Después es un torneo aparte. Muchos equipos que terminaron en octavo o noveno y no tuvieron regularidad durante el torneo, andan siendo campeones y después nadie se acuerda de que no terminaron en las primeras posiciones. Lo más importante es entrar a la liguilla, es cuando se ve la calidad del equipo para lograr cosas importantes”.

Por último, Matías apuntó que será una ventaja cerrar con dos partidos en el Azteca.

“Somos locales, estamos haciendo las cosas bien de locales. Cerrar ante nuestra gente y dejar una buena imagen sería bueno”.

MAÑANA, NO HABRÁ ACCESO A MEDIOS

El equipo tuvo una práctica a fondo este miércoles que comenzó con una ardua sesión en el gimnasio. En lo físico, el profesor Axel Bierbaum sometió a fuertes rutinas a los muchachos y en lo futbolístico, el profe Tena trabajó los espacios reducidos.

El equipo trabaja mañana a puerta cerrada y no habrá acceso para la prensa.

[el chingon]

i agree with vuoso. we can play both tournaments with a competitive squad. i would send the best team to the club world cup. this is what players i would pick........

FIFA club world cup:
Memo
Alberto Becerra
Gringo
oscar rojas
dulio davino
diego cervantes
carlos infante
Mosqueda
German Villa
Alvin Mendoza
Alejandro Arguello
Pipino
Cuauhtemoc
Cabanas
Vuoso
Claudio Lopez

Liguilla:
Navarette
chileno rojas
Ismael Rodriguez
Salinas
Fabian Pena

and then the other players should come from fuerzas basicas and maybe some players from zacatepec

[Calif]

Tienen sufficiente equipo pero creo que si se dividen el equipo que deje el america en la liguilla doesn't stand a chance!!!

[Cell]

vuoso, pipino, y mosqueda se tienen que quedar con los suplentes y fuerzas basicas en la liguilla.

[el chingon]

América | Será un mediocampista el refuerzo de las Águilas


Sergio Álvarez Reiset | MEDIOTIEMPO
Ciudad de México, 27 de Octubre de 2006

* Lo anunciarán esta tarde
* Apoyará en el Mundial de Clubes
* "Jimmy" el más probable, suena también el "Pony"

Al menos la posición ya ha sido anunciada.

El refuerzo de las Águilas del América para disputar el Mundial de Clubes será un mediocampista, según anunció el técnico del equipo, Luis Fernando Tena.

Lo anterior, evidencia el hueco que no se ha podido tapar el cuadro americanista tras la salida de Pavel Pardo, al futbol alemán. Manuel Lapuente dijo que será esta tarde, alrededor de las 18 horas, cuando se revele el nombre del jugador, del cual no se sabe si es nacional o extranjero.

El Directivo dijo tajante que no quiere que el tema del Mundial de Clubes se toque nuevamente, ya que podría distraer a sus jugadores, quienes no han conseguido su pase a la Liguilla.

"Va a haber un refuerzo que nos pidió Luis Fernando Tena, que lo daremos a conocer en su tiempo debido, que no puede ser después del lunes, porque ya tiene que aparecer en la lista. Cuando se pueda decir el nombre del jugador, con muchísimo gusto se los damos. Este tema no quisiera que se volviera a tocar, porque no tiene caso, no es momento cuando ni siquiera hemos calificado a la Liguilla, ya tenemos el Mundial de Clubes, pero no es en este momento para atacar este problema y menos a nivel de los muchachos que están distrayéndose en lago que no tienen en frente", comentó Lapuente en conferencia de prensa.

Advirtió que espera que la FMF, con sus nuevos dirigentes, calendaricen mejor en un futuro el torneo mexicano, para que no se empalme con las justas internacionales.

"Pienso que se tendrán que juntar los nuevos directivos que tenemos, encabezados por Justino (Compéan), pienso que todo este tipo de cosas será importante abordarlas. A qué vamos a competir si no es con la idea de ganar, yo creo que México a nivel clubes y a nivel Selección está preparado para ir a ganar y no ir a probar", añadió.

RUMORES

Las opción que más ha sonado, sin ser confirmada oficialmente, es la del mediocampista de los Tigres de la UANL, Jaime Lozano, además del volante chileno del Santos Laguna, Rodrigo Ruiz.

El primero es el de más posibilidades debido a que el cuadro de La Comarca se encuentra en una crítica situación y el "Pony" es un hombre clave para el desempeño del equipo.

Cabe recordar que Jaime Lozano ya estaba en la mira del América hace año y medio; incluso las Águilas estuvieron a un paso de contratarlo en el Apertura 2005, pero el jugador prefirió fichar con los Tigres.

[el chingon]

^^^ the way jaime lozano and pony ruiz are playing right now ill prefer pony ruiz. but in their best level i think jaime lozano is better.

[mawin312]

they probably end up gettin el pony... america likes having old people anyways(blanco...villa) :lol:

[Calif]

No I think that they need someone like for example Gaitan or someone with a lot of talent as a midfielder to help america's forwards!!!!

[el chingon]

yea i wish we could got back to apertura 2005 and get that gaitan:D

[ricoo9]

I really hope America plays Barcelona.

[Calif]

Yeah It will be a great game and FC Barcelona will probably end up winning but you never know America has a good team!!

[dannymex]

hahah i would like to watch that game, i dont really like either team but im sure it'd be entertaining to watch

[Calif]

América dio lista preliminar para el Mundial de Clubes... Fabiano, registrado

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A la cita mundialista participarán 23 jugadores
Confirman que Fabiano Pereira es el refuerzo

El América dio a conocer la lista preliminar de jugadores para el Mundial de Clubes a disputarse en Japón, en la que destacan los atacantes Cuauhtémoc Blanco, el paraguayo Salvador Cabañas y el argentino Claudio "Piojo" López.

América integró una lista de 30 jugadores hacia el Mundial de Clubes, a celebrarse del 10 al 17 de Diciembre, en las ciudades japonesas de Yokohama y Tokio.

La lista dada a conocer por el cuadro azulcrema será recortada a 23 jugadores, límite que solicita la FIFA para el certamen.

A continuación la lista preliminar de jugadores del América para el Mundial de Clubes:

1. Guillermo Ochoa
2. Ismael Rodríguez
3. José Antonio Castro
4. Óscar Rojas
5. Duilio Davino
6. Ricardo Rojas (chileno)
7. Diego Cervantes
8. Germán Villa
9. Alejandro Argüello
10. Juan Carlos Mosqueda
11. Claudio López (argentino)
12. Matías Vuoso (argentino)
13. Cuauhtémoc Blanco
14. Salvador Cabañas (paraguayo)
15. Nelson Cuevas (paraguayo)
16. Alberto Becerra
17. Armando Navarrete
18. Carlos Infante
19. Ignacio Torres
20. Fabián Peña
21. Raúl Alvin Mendoza
22. Raúl Salinas
23. Enrique Esqueda
24. Juan Carlos Silva
25. Rodrigo Iñigo
26. Armando Sánchez Zamudio
27. José Joaquín Martínez
28. Marco Antonio Gómez
29. Santiago Fernández
30. Fabiano Pereira (brasileño)

[Calif]

Jeonbuk enfrentará al América en el Mundial de Clubes

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Venció al equipo Al Karama con global de 3-2


El equipo sudcoreano Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors, se proclamó monarca de la Asian Champions League tras vencer con marcador global de 3-2 a Al Karama y aseguró su boleto al Mundial de Clubes Japón 2006, donde enfrentará en primera ronda al América de México.

A cuatro minutos del final, el brasileño Ze Carlo anotó el gol del título a pesar de perder 2-1 con el equipo sirio en el Estadio "Khaled Bin Al Waleed", ya que el 2-0 en la "ida" en favor de los coreanos (3-2 global) les dio el trofeo y el boleto al Mundial.

Así, los dirigidos por Choi Kang-Hee enfrentarán el próximo 11 de Diciembre en Tokio al Club América, y el vencedor de dicho encuentro disputará la Semifinal contra el FC Barcelona.

Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors llegó a este duelo con la ventaja de dos goles, y tras 45 minutos de acción en el partido de vuelta, el marcador seguía sin moverse y el título parecía cerca para los coreanos.

Al Karama, en tanto, apoyado por su afición, trató de conseguir la remontada y, por conducto de Mohamad Al Hamwi al minuto 54 y Mohanad Ibrahim, al 61, igualó el marcador global ante la algarabía de sus seguidores, que comenzaban a soñar.

Pero todo cambió para los locales a cuatro minutos de finalizar el encuentro, cuando Ze Carlo consiguió el tanto que necesitaba su equipo para evitar el tiempo extra y conseguir la corona asiática.

Así, la Champions League de Asia llegó a su fin, y el cuadro coreano Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors tendrá la obligación de representar dignamente a la Confederación Asiática de Futbol en el Mundial de Clubes, que se jugará del 10 al 17 de Diciembre en Japón.

[dannymex]

um... so they are playing a south korean team. Should be interesting. hope they win.

[mawin312]

vamos Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors :D

[Xizor]

um... so they are playing a south korean team. Should be interesting. hope they win.

Yeah hopefully they can pull off a victory! :yellowcar

[Calif]

Go America and then Go Barcelona!!!!!

[BELTRAN]

Jeonbuk Hyundai Motors Their Americas Rivals????
Im Sorry Guys But Im Going For Tha South Corean Team Lol

[Calif]

It will be an interesting game!!!

[Calif]

El América presentó la lista de jugadores para el Mundial

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No llevarán a jugadores de Primera "A"


Las Águilas del América dieron a conocer la lista de 23 jugadores que viajarán la próxima semana a Japón, donde disputarán el Mundial de Clubes 2006, el cual se disputará del 10 al 17 de Diciembre.

La lista preliminar de 30 futbolistas que dio a conocer el equipo mexicano el pasado 1 de Noviembre, hoy se redujo a 23 jugadores quienes emprenderán la aventura en tierras japonesas donde debutarán el próximo día 11 ante el equipo Jeonbuk Motors de Corea del Sur.

Hombres como el portero Guillermo Ochoa, los defensas Duilio Davino, José Antonio Castro, Oscar Rojas y el chileno Ricardo Rojas fueron contemplados por el técnico Luis Fernando Tena, junto a los jóvenes mediocampistas Alejandro Argüello y Juan Carlos Mosqueda.

También viajarán Cuauhtémoc Blanco, Germán Villa y los delanteros argentinos Claudio López, Matías Vuoso, los paraguayos Salvador Cabañas, Nelson Cuevas, y el refuerzo para este certamen, el brasileño Fabiano Pereira.

Quienes fueron descartados para el Mundial de Clubes fueron Enrique Esqueda, Juan Carlos Silva, Rodrigo Iñigo, Armando Sánchez Zamudio, José Joaquín Martínez, Marco Antonio Gómez y Santiago Fernández, todos del Zacatepec de Primera "A", filial de Águilas.

América debutará el 11 de Diciembre ante el Jeonbuk Motors coreano en Tokio, y en caso de superar dicho encuentro se medirá el 14 del mismo mes, en Yokohama, al flamante monarca de España y de la Liga de Campeones, Barcelona, con los mexicanos Rafael Márquez y Giovani dos Santos.

Lista definitiva de América publicada por la FIFA para disputar el próximo Mundial de Clubes:

PLANTILLA PARA EL MUNDIAL DE CLUBES

Porteros

Guillermo Ochoa
Alberto Becerra
Armando Navarrete

Defensas

Carlos Infante
Diego Cervantes
Duilio Davino
Ismael Rodríguez
José Antonio Castro
Óscar Rojas
Ricardo Rojas
Raul Salinas

Medios

Germán Villa
Alejandro Argüello
Juan Carlos Mosqueda
Cuauhtémoc Blanco
Ignacio Torres
Fabián Peña
Álvin Mendoza
Fabiano Pereira

Delanteros

Claudio López
Matías Vuoso
Salvador Cabañas
Nelson Cuevas

[Calif]

No surprise llevan todo el equipo de Primera Division!!!!!

[el chingon]

Sunday, December 10
Auckland City (New Zealand) vs. Al Ahly (Egypt)
5 AM ET / 4 AM CT / 2 AM PT live

Monday, December 11
Jeonbuk Motors (South Korea) vs. America (Mexico)
5 AM ET / 4 AM CT / 2 AM PT live

Wednesday, December 13
Internacional (Brasil) vs. Auckland City/Al Ahly winner
5 AM ET / 4 AM CT / 2 AM PT live

Thursday, December 14
Barcelona (Spain) vs. Jeonbuk Motors/America winner
5 AM ET / 4 AM CT / 2 AM PT live

[el chingon]

america's game will be at 4 am central time. im going to have to go to school all sleepy. but ill be going happy if they win.

[Calif]

I'll be sleeping early and I'll be up at 2:00Am and I'll go back to sleep at 4:00am!!!!!

[tronxz28]

That schedule for the games is ***king great... I guess I would not watch any match live...

[el chingon]

yea i know its early but im a true azulcrema and i wont miss this game for nothing.

[Fenerliyim]

lol so people actually do care about this competition. It never gets any much publicity in Europe

[Calif]

Yeah we follow the competition over here in the america's even the brazilian's are all pump up because Internacional will be representing them for the first time!!!!

[Centarfor9]

i'm rooting for America to beat Barca in the final

[Calif]

No if they meet it will be in Semi-finals bro!!!

[Centarfor9]

No if they meet it will be in Semi-finals bro!!!
f*** it then

it's all b** s***

[Calif]

What's up with you? Drinking too much there!!!

[Xizor]

lol so people actually do care about this competition. It never gets any much publicity in Europe

That's weird because you would think that Barcelona would have more media coverage in Spain since they've never won this tournament before! :yuck:

[ricoo9]

will barca play with their "A" team? or r they gonna use a bunch of subs?

[Calif]

Well I think they're A Team eventhough they took a couple of youngsters like Giovanni Dos Santos!!!!

[el chingon]

they're using their a team.

[adasafa]

im in spain right now and even tho they do talk about the club world cup, its nowhere near as anything as the champions league. pero the club world cup has been on every newscast ive seen, everyday for a week now. yesterday they showed barca showing up to japan and checking in to the hotel in japan, it was about a 5 min thing. i hope barca wins no offense to america

[Calif]

Yeah I think that Barca will win!!!!! But yeah i've been hearing the same thing that they don't pay as much attention to the FIFA Club World Cup!!!

[Pape]

Go Barca! I watch the Spain news this morning and they had the story on there with Barca, too bad I didn't understand a word, except NADA!

[ricoo9]

Too bad Eto'o and Messi arent playing.

[kriot]

I thought Messi was injured and thats why he wasnt playing. Not sure but i remember hearing something like that.

should be good tho. I hope America wins but i wont be heartbroken if they dont.

KC

[Calif]

Well Messi will not play neither will Eto'o because they are both injured!

[adasafa]

im ready to watch it, theres a big spread on it in the newspapers. rijkaard, the trainer for barca, thinks america has the advantage. im ready to watch it tomorrow. i have a final exam at 10:00 and i have to finish in time to see the game at 11:20 lol.

[ricoo9]

Barca will win 5-0. My prediction ;)

[dannymex]

im ready to watch it, theres a big spread on it in the newspapers. rijkaard, the trainer for barca, thinks america has the advantage. im ready to watch it tomorrow. i have a final exam at 10:00 and i have to finish in time to see the game at 11:20 lol.


why would he think that america has the advantage?

[tronxz28]

why would he think that america has the advantage?

because he said that america has been in japan before them so they already adapted to the time difference.

it is just psycological... when u r barcelona there are just very few teams for which you can claim you are not the favorite.

[Calif]

It should be interesting!!!

[handofgod]

Barca will win 5-0. My prediction ;)

:lol: :lol: :lol: Dude you almost got it right!!!!! For those folks who thought that game in August meant anything, well I guess now you know that game meant nothing to Barca.

Barca is light years ahead of any Mexican team. I hope this defeat open your eyes a bit, and hopefully it will be also an eye opener for those people in command of Mexican soccer as a whole. You must keep exporting your talent of today to Europe to develop as a true soccer elite contender. In order for this to happen your clubs really need to lower the ridiculous price tags for unprooven players or they will never pay attention.

Remember Barca did not even played with Eto, Messi, Edmilson, etc. This was a reality check IMO.:sad:

[Pape]

Club America 0-4 Barca :lol:

[ricoo9]

:lol: :lol: :lol: Dude you almost got it right!!!!! For those folks who thought that game in August meant anything, well I guess now you know that game meant nothing to Barca.

Barca is light years ahead of any Mexican team. I hope this defeat open your eyes a bit, and hopefully it will be also an eye opener for those people in command of Mexican soccer as a whole. You must keep exporting your talent of today to Europe to develop as a true soccer elite contender. In order for this to happen your clubs really need to lower the ridiculous price tags for unprooven players or they will never pay attention.

Remember Barca did not even played with Eto, Messi, Edmilson, etc. This was a reality check IMO.:sad:

Damn, I was so close! :lol: Yeah, i guess thats what playing meaningless friendlies at full force will get u....dissapointment when it comes to real matches like this. This is for all the idiots who were saying "OH but we beat Real" or "Oh but we tied Barca before"....:lol::lol::lol::lol: In UR face!!:lol::lol: Goes to show meaningless friendlies dont mean shit, The Cup is what its all about.

[handofgod]

Damn, I was so close! :lol: Yeah, i guess thats what playing meaningless friendlies at full force will get u....dissapointment when it comes to real matches like this. This is for all the idiots who were saying "OH but we beat Real" or "Oh but we tied Barca before"....:lol::lol::lol::lol: In UR face!!:lol::lol: Goes to show meaningless friendlies dont mean shit, The Cup is what its all about.

:lol: You also have to remember this tourney is not of much importance to Barca like the Champions, but I'm sure for America this was a very big deal.
The point I'm trying to make here is that the Concacaf cup for clubs is crap. Just think if Barca would have played really focussed in winning big time and with Messi, Eto, etc. It would have been a massacre.

Mexican dudes you have come a long way but overall you still have some to go. I said this before, watching your league play is painful, think the dudes like el Piojo in Mexico he's still great but in Spain, in Valencia where he used to play hw would be a bench warmer.

[handofgod]

i know its 4 months away to make a thread about this but im too excited about this!!!! i want to see america play against the best teams in the world!!!

I bet he's not too excited now!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

[Codythebest]

Barca will win 5-0. My prediction ;)

At least. I'll watch on my sattv4pc.com because it won't be on my cable here..:lol:

[mawin312]

As expected by most Mexicans. Pierde America y pierde feo!!! :lol:

[MADRIDCF8]

As expected by most Mexicans. Pierde America y pierde feo!!! :lol:
i agree lol

i dont think its such a bad thing 4-0 should be expected, barcelona beats team in spain 4-0, and imo america wasnt great this year, if chivas, toluca, cruz azul played it would have been atleast a little closer (3-0 lol)

atleast america should beat al ahly easily because we need some credibility even though im not even sure if america will win.

[el chingon]

i hate to admit it but we got killed. for next season we should get new defenders, and fire tena.

pinche tena vale mierda el puto. en el primer juego fabiano pereira(brazilian) jugo muy mal. en una ocasion kiso hacer un "truco" y se la kitaron. y fabiano pereira nomas se kedo parado como si nada fuera pasado. y en esa jugada ya mero metia gol joenbok.

en ese juego cuando entro juan carlos mosqueda(mexican) por pereira. el america empezo a jugar mas bien y tuvo mas chansas.

y en el segundo juego yo pensaba ke iva a jugar mosqueda como titular. pero cuando vi la alineacion vi ke mosqueda no estaba y pereira si. y yo no se como chingados tena escogio a pereira envez de mosquda. mosqueda en el rato ke jugo, jugo mucho mas mejor ke pereira.

y tena poniendo a pereira envez de mosqueda aunke mosqueda viera jugado mejor, eso nomas le afecta el moral a mosqueda. un como jugador piensa ke si juega uno bien se va a ganar la titularidad. y mosqueda juega bien y de todos modos no se gana la titularidad.

esta copa era la chansa para mosqueda de brillar y irse a europa( ricoo and handofgod you should watch him play, im not overhyping him, he gots what it takes but what his lacking is height)

y otro error ke hizo tena es no poner a cuauhtemoc de titular. cuah es el corazon del america. el america juega mucho mejor con el en el campo. y por eso pienso ke cuauhtemoc deveria ver jugado como titular.

otro mas es ke por ke chingados tena sigue insistiendo con cabanas, el no a dado resultados. partido tras partido juega mal y de todos modos lo siguen poniendo de titular.

so my changes for next year is fire tena, davino, ricardo rojas, pena, and maybe cabanas. and no more hiring any extranjeros, and to start working on fuerzas basicas and get players from there. this year we discovered juan carlos mosqueda( cuauhtemoc's replacement) arguello(villa's replacement) and cervantes(davino's replacement)

[dannymex]

i agree lol

i dont think its such a bad thing 4-0 should be expected, barcelona beats team in spain 4-0, and imo america wasnt great this year, if chivas, toluca, cruz azul played it would have been atleast a little closer (3-0 lol)

atleast america should beat al ahly easily because we need some credibility even though im not even sure if america will win.


:lol: did anyone actually think that america was really gonna win?

[Xizor]

:lol: did anyone actually think that america was really gonna win?

Probabaly Chingon! :lol:

[Calif]

Nope I didn't think they will win!!!! I saw the match live (not there T.V) It was worth it good game!!

[el chingon]

:lol: did anyone actually think that america was really gonna win?
there's was alewayts a chance we couldve won. it was probably a 5-10% chance we could win.

but i didnt care what the percentage of our chances of winning is. its ok for a fan to dream and hope for the best to happen. thats why i watched the game. i wasnt just going to loose hope and not watch it.

[dannymex]

there's was alewayts a chance we couldve won. it was probably a 5-10% chance we could win.

but i didnt care what the percentage of our chances of winning is. its ok for a fan to dream and hope for the best to happen. thats why i watched the game. i wasnt just going to loose hope and not watch it.


no man i respect that good job for sticking by your team and not losing hope. Thats a true fan!

[mawin312]

Al Ahly 2 - 1 america
Not even 3rd place. Tsk tsk tsk, how embarressing.
The "Egyptian Zidane" is fantastic!!! :shocked:

[handofgod]

Al Ahly 2 - 1 america
Not even 3rd place. Tsk tsk tsk, how embarressing.
The "Egyptian Zidane" is fantastic!!! :shocked:

It'll be less embarrassing if you keep hyping your clubs so much. I assume that club from Egypt was a decent side but was probably well underestimated by America.
Unfortunately you guys IMO sort of measure against recent competition against South American clubs in Libertadores and Sudamericana but such competition is weak.
Take a look at Cienciano from Peru. They won Sudamericana 2 years ago and they really suck. Most of the true talent flocks to European clubs to make $$$ and to polish their game to new heights.

I know this is beating a dead horse but your league play is pretty boring, and just in case someone says I'm being bias here, the MLS and the Peruvian league suck balls, they may well even suck even more than the Mexican one. So do not be surprised when you see poor results. America 2 weeks ago was on the verge to go the Mexican final and now you say how embarrasing b/c they lost. They lost to the best club in the world (Barca) and a good team I assume since they are there.

Better luck next year. You guys definetley need to join Conmebol if you want to make a huge leap towards progress, and stop waisting time competing against Concacaf.

[Xikunahity]

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[Xizor]

Take a look at Cienciano from Peru. They won Sudamericana 2 years ago and they really suck. Most of the true talent flocks to European clubs to make $$$ and to polish their game to new heights.


So now your saying that the Copa Sudamericana is worthless and that any sorried ass team can win it? :mad2:

[ricoo9]

So now your saying that the Copa Sudamericana is worthless and that any sorried ass team can win it? :mad2:

Internacional 1- Barca 0.

Once again, a south american takes the cup and this time by beating the most important club in the world. It should show u mexicans at what level ur clubs really r, if u compare the 4-0. ;)

[Xizor]

Internacional 1- Barca 0.

Once again, a south american takes the cup and this time by beating the most important club in the world. It should show u mexicans at what level ur clubs really r, if u compare the 4-0. ;)

Dude European Clubs don't give a sh*t about that cup, just look what happened to Liverpool and now Barcelona. They just play to have fun not to get all seriouse about it.

[ricoo9]

Dude European Clubs don't give a sh*t about that cup, just look what happened to Liverpool and now Barcelona. They just play to have fun not to get all seriouse about it.

Oh no wonder America lost 4-0. It must of been cuz Barca doesnt give a shit, if not they would of beat Americas ass 8-0. Dude, seriously thats a pathetic excuse. Barca played with all their starters, and zambrotta even got injured in this game. If they didnt take it seriously, they would of played with their bench. They played to win and they lost.... while in the other hand America got 4th place. ;) It might not be as important as the Champions league but u can clearly see that they were taking it seriously.

[Xizor]

Oh no wonder America lost 4-0. It must of been cuz Barca doesnt give a shit, if not they would of beat Americas ass 8-0. Dude, seriously thats a pathetic excuse. Barca played with all their starters, and zambrotta even got injured in this game. If they didnt take it seriously, they would of played with their bench. They played to win and they lost.... while in the other hand America got 4th place. ;) It might not be as important as the Champions league but u can clearly see that they were taking it seriously.

I'm not to sure about that but who cares America sucks anyways! But I think America played with most of their bench players because before the game started Tena said he would give so PT to the benched players. :smoking:

[tronxz28]

Internacional 1- Barca 0.

Once again, a south american takes the cup and this time by beating the most important club in the world. It should show u mexicans at what level ur clubs really r, if u compare the 4-0. ;)

but did not pachuca just recently won the sudamericana against south american teams? and playing the final match at chile were every one was just waiting to see colo colo champions?

pachuca beated atl paranaense, colo colo and lanus at their fields.

There must be a balance... mexican soccer is not as bad as the poor demostration that america did and it is not the greatest just because pachuca won the sudamericana.

Anyway, this is just the second time of mexican teams playing in the sudamericana. Also consider the rate of teams of brazil and argentina(5) playingg in this cup compared to the number of mexican teams (2). So at the end it is good achievement.

[handofgod]

but did not pachuca just recently won the sudamericana against south american teams? and playing the final match at chile were every one was just waiting to see colo colo champions?

pachuca beated atl paranaense, colo colo and lanus at their fields.

There must be a balance... mexican soccer is not as bad as the poor demostration that america did and it is not the greatest just because pachuca won the sudamericana.

Anyway, this is just the second time of mexican teams playing in the sudamericana. Also consider the rate of teams of brazil and argentina(5) playingg in this cup compared to the number of mexican teams (2). So at the end it is good achievement.
Copa Sudamericana suck balls. Cienciano from Peru won it over River Plate 2 yrs ago, and although it was an accomplishment the truth is it does not matter that much to the big teams.
you guys keep comparing to sudacas teams but forget to remember sudamerica has their best talent in Europe.

If Brazil, Argentina, heck even Peru keep their talent home -utopic of course- it would be different. IMO you guys have ways to go but just do not like to admit it. I just read that comment about America playing their subs against the team from Egypt, and you wonder why they lost. If it's true and they lost b/c they played subs, IMO it's even worse. That means not only America got humiliated by Barca but you could not even respect your next opponent and now have the nerve to bitch about getting embarrased.:lol:

You guys need to realize Mexican soccer, esp clubs, is not that good -note I'm not saying it sux- but you keep somewhat overhyping it. Your NT is in the right path and I'd say this again, until the leadership in clubs stops being that selfish about the price tags on Mexican players more progress will not be achieved.

[Cell]

Internacional 1- Barca 0.

Once again, a south american takes the cup and this time by beating the most important club in the world. It should show u mexicans at what level ur clubs really r, if u compare the 4-0. ;)

Which proves that Sudamericana and Libertadores aren't weak competitions. The raw talent always defeats those money filled wannabe European Brazilians and others. No wonder in South America no one likes Ronaldhino.
Congratulations Inter!!!!

[Codythebest]

All South American players dream to play in Europe: prestige, best clubs, best football, best salary....
Few Europeans go to play in SA. Only money will move them there...

[el chingon]

Dude European Clubs don't give a sh*t about that cup, just look what happened to Liverpool and now Barcelona. They just play to have fun not to get all seriouse about it.
i believe they do take it seriously. ronaldinho said he wanted to beat onternacional in the final since his a fan of gremio, and inter and gremio are rivals.

and that europeans teams dont give a sh*t about that cup is bullsh*t. thats just what european fans say just to make an excuse of their team loosing to latin american teams.

[dannymex]

Copa Sudamericana suck balls. Cienciano from Peru won it over River Plate 2 yrs ago, and although it was an accomplishment the truth is it does not matter that much to the big teams.
you guys keep comparing to sudacas teams but forget to remember sudamerica has their best talent in Europe.

If Brazil, Argentina, heck even Peru keep their talent home -utopic of course- it would be different. IMO you guys have ways to go but just do not like to admit it. I just read that comment about America playing their subs against the team from Egypt, and you wonder why they lost. If it's true and they lost b/c they played subs, IMO it's even worse. That means not only America got humiliated by Barca but you could not even respect your next opponent and now have the nerve to bitch about getting embarrased.:lol:

You guys need to realize Mexican soccer, esp clubs, is not that good -note I'm not saying it sux- but you keep somewhat overhyping it. Your NT is in the right path and I'd say this again, until the leadership in clubs stops being that selfish about the price tags on Mexican players more progress will not be achieved.



:lol: i love how you have to come up with all these lame excuses like, oh no one really cares about copa sudamericana. It seems that every new accomplishment mexico has, suddenly isnt important or no one really cares about it. As for the america barca game, i cant guarantee you that most everyone knew barca was gonna win and no one was hyping up america. In fact, i want you to show me one post where someone rational was hyping up america!!!

its seems to me that your irrational hatred for mexico skews a lot of your views my friend :)

[Cell]

i believe they do take it seriously. ronaldinho said he wanted to beat onternacional in the final since his a fan of gremio, and inter and gremio are rivals.

and that europeans teams dont give a sh*t about that cup is bullsh*t. thats just what european fans say just to make an excuse of their team loosing to latin american teams.

Very true!!! Matter of fact there's an article in mediotiempo where it states that the whole squad wanted that prize badly. Ronaldhino even claimed that he wanted to come back next year and take the trophy.

[el chingon]

Internacional 1- Barca 0.

Once again, a south american takes the cup and this time by beating the most important club in the world. It should show u mexicans at what level ur clubs really r, if u compare the 4-0. ;)
that 4-0 result wouldnt of happen if tena would of used the same line-up he used in the last few games. im not trying to amke excuses. i admit it, we really sucked especially our defense. we had the chance to control the game from the beggining if el piojo wouldve hit the ball well in that chance he got in the 3rd minute of the 1st half.

and ui dont know why tena put in pereira instead of mosqueda. pereira did bad in the first hald against joenbok. and when they put in mosqueda, america started playing better. against barcelona pereira played bad again. and even though he played bad in both previous game tena puts him as a starter once again.

[Cell]

A South American club winning the club gives more credibility to Pachuca for winning the Sudamericana. Imagine if they win the Recopa!!!

[handofgod]

A South American club winning the club gives more credibility to Pachuca for winning the Sudamericana. Imagine if they win the Recopa!!!
You dumbasses don't know shit. Cienciano won the recopa 2 yrs ago from Boca and honestly that did not mean they were a much better club. I'm not trying to diminish Pachuca's accomplishment but at the same time club soccer is a very different animal depending of where you play. Barca by anhilating America (w/o Messi, Eto, etc) shows just how many light years ahead European soccer is from the Mexican. Go ask el Piojo Lopez about this. He in his day was a good player in Europe now he could not even be the waterboy, and that's why he plays in Mexico.

Congrats to Pachuca but do not lie to yourselves the best soccer is played in Europe end of the story.

[Calif]

Wow America aunque nos duela a todos fue un Fracaso en el Mundial de Clubes.

[Xizor]

You dumbasses don't know shit. Cienciano won the recopa 2 yrs ago from Boca and honestly that did not mean they were a much better club. I'm not trying to diminish Pachuca's accomplishment but at the same time club soccer is a very different animal depending of where you play. Barca by anhilating America (w/o Messi, Eto, etc) shows just how many light years ahead European soccer is from the Mexican. Go ask el Piojo Lopez about this. He in his day was a good player in Europe now he could not even be the waterboy, and that's why he plays in Mexico.

Congrats to Pachuca but do not lie to yourselves the best soccer is played in Europe end of the story.

No shit Sherlock, European football is way better then Mexican soccer ain't no one complaining their! But what your problem is, is that anytime a Mexican club accomplishes something your always their to put us the Mexican fans down, what's up with that shit! And why the hell are you always saying that we overhype our league, tell me who overhypes Mexican futbol dude! Just because we say "O yeah that guy is good he should play in Europe" doesn't mean we overhype our league. Shit the only person here overhypping Mexico is you Handofgod! :mad2:

[handofgod]

No shit Sherlock, European football is way better then Mexican soccer ain't no one complaining their! But what your problem is, is that anytime a Mexican club accomplishes something your always their to put us the Mexican fans down, what's up with that shit! And why the hell are you always saying that we overhype our league, tell me who overhypes Mexican futbol dude! Just because we say "O yeah that guy is good he should play in Europe" doesn't mean we overhype our league. Shit the only person here overhypping Mexico is you Handofgod! :mad2:

Hahaha:lol: :lol: :lol: I love how you change the facts. I can't believe you are a mod. The dude who did not know who Ferenc Puskas was!!
So you do not overhype your soccer. Dude you Mexicans have 10 zillion threads opened about Mexican soccer, I guess that says something. Bottom line as I DID say I congratulated Pachuca for winning the CS, but you are sort of blind if you do not admit you overhype your soccer. You did it before the WC and got a taste of reality and this WCC was another reminder.

At least Calif does acknowledge both wins and defeats. You guys are way bias when analyzing Mexican soccer. Even I admitted the US sucked in the WC and that Peru is being suking balls big time, instead you dudes only write stuff when you beat no name teams like the ones you face in Concacaf.

Someone even tried to blame the ref for the Barca game, and another tried to say America lost cuz did not lined up all of their "stars"...please, celbrate when you win and admit defeat when you lose.:sad:

[el chingon]

and another tried to say America lost cuz did not lined up all of their "stars"...please, celbrate when you win and admit defeat when you lose.:sad:

yea i admited that we got killed. but the line up we used was the wrong one. we shouldve used the same line-up we used in the last part of the season.

and i know that we wouldve probably lost even with the right line-up but atleast it wouldve been a more respectable result maybe like 3-1 or 2-0 intead of being "goleado" 4-0.

oh and yea i agree with you about xizor being a mod. he has made a whole bunch of mistakes. he tought tigres' coach was still with them, and countless more.

ive heard about puskas, and how he was a great player. i dont know much about him. and thats why im not a mod, because in my opinion a mod needs to have a lot of knowledge about the game. or atleast the forum his moderating. i bet xizor doesnt know much about the mexican league.

[handofgod]

yea i admited that we got killed. but the line up we used was the wrong one. we shouldve used the same line-up we used in the last part of the season.

and i know that we wouldve probably lost even with the right line-up but atleast it wouldve been a more respectable result maybe like 3-1 or 2-0 intead of being "goleado" 4-0.

oh and yea i agree with you about xizor being a mod. he has made a whole bunch of mistakes. he tought tigres' coach was still with them, and countless more.

ive heard about puskas, and how he was a great player. i dont know much about him. and thats why im not a mod, because in my opinion a mod needs to have a lot of knowledge about the game. or atleast the forum his moderating. i bet xizor doesnt know much about the mexican league.

Wasup dude! I'm glad we found some common ground. Nothing against Xizor but really to be a mod you must be unbias at all times and reserve some comments.
I just do not appreciate how he cherry picks from my entire comment and chooses a few words to change what I'm actually trying to convene.

[dannymex]

Wasup dude! I'm glad we found some common ground. Nothing against Xizor but really to be a mod you must be unbias at all times and reserve some comments.
I just do not appreciate how he cherry picks from my entire comment and chooses a few words to change what I'm actually trying to convene.


hahah that can be said about both of you guys, "cherry picking", that is. It seems that you are the king of confirmation bais....and you think we're irrational.
Anyways did you hear that mexico is playing a friendly against peru. Should be a good game.

good luck to both teams.

[Calif]

Xizor is not a Mod for the Mexican Futbol Forum he is a Mod of Copa America! Me and Mawin are Co-Mods of this section!

[ricoo9]

Xizor is not a Mod for the Mexican Futbol Forum he is a Mod of Copa America! Me and Mawin are Co-Mods of this section!

How do u become a mod?

[handofgod]

hahah that can be said about both of you guys, "cherry picking", that is. It seems that you are the king of confirmation bais....and you think we're irrational.
Anyways did you hear that mexico is playing a friendly against peru. Should be a good game.

good luck to both teams.

Dude, I hate to admit it but Peru is likely going to lose that game. Right now the FPF is tremedous turmoil and Peru's best players overseas are having all sorts of issues with the FPF and I doubt all of them will play.

Pizarro was banned from the team by the FPF (for the most idiotic and selfish reasons), Solano always had problems with the FPF, Vargas (let's see if this time the FPF doesn't forget to buy his airline ticket or get his visa right), etc, etc.
Oh BTW Peru has no coach!!!!!!:faint2: Their current "coach", Franco Navarro, has minimal coaching experience (no kidding, he's coached like one team in the Peruvian league...and got fired!!!A High School coach here has more experience.
In other words the situation right now has hit rock bottom for sure. Fifa is very close to disaffiliate Peru, I mean it is truly a catrastophe.

And we have to thanks the geniuses at the FPF who had rule Peru's soccer since...last time we went to the WC!!!! Of course they reason#1 Peru's soccer is stalled. They came in years ago and had gotten zero results and only robbed all the money generated from revenue. I mean really why are they trying to hold on to their jobs sooooo much after only failures. Most competent people even on failure they have the decency to step down and let someone else give it a shot. But not these assholes, which is why the government just had no other option than to step in, and that is why Fifa is going to ban Peru b/c Mr. Manuel Burga (president of the FPF) went crying like the little bitch he is to Mr. Blatter (who always gets his vote, and so Mr. Leoz in Conmebol).

I hope Peru's president, Alan Garcia has the balls to say to Mr. Blatter to suck his balls and **** Fifa, b/c soccer is Peru is more than just a private company from Fifa. It is the national sport and a religion almost and ppl there are just dead tired to see what goes on.:mad2:

[kingkong]

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[dannymex]

Dude, I hate to admit it but Peru is likely going to lose that game. Right now the FPF is tremedous turmoil and Peru's best players overseas are having all sorts of issues with the FPF and I doubt all of them will play.

Pizarro was banned from the team by the FPF (for the most idiotic and selfish reasons), Solano always had problems with the FPF, Vargas (let's see if this time the FPF doesn't forget to buy his airline ticket or get his visa right), etc, etc.
Oh BTW Peru has no coach!!!!!!:faint2: Their current "coach", Franco Navarro, has minimal coaching experience (no kidding, he's coached like one team in the Peruvian league...and got fired!!!A High School coach here has more experience.
In other words the situation right now has hit rock bottom for sure. Fifa is very close to disaffiliate Peru, I mean it is truly a catrastophe.

And we have to thanks the geniuses at the FPF who had rule Peru's soccer since...last time we went to the WC!!!! Of course they reason#1 Peru's soccer is stalled. They came in years ago and had gotten zero results and only robbed all the money generated from revenue. I mean really why are they trying to hold on to their jobs sooooo much after only failures. Most competent people even on failure they have the decency to step down and let someone else give it a shot. But not these assholes, which is why the government just had no other option than to step in, and that is why Fifa is going to ban Peru b/c Mr. Manuel Burga (president of the FPF) went crying like the little bitch he is to Mr. Blatter (who always gets his vote, and so Mr. Leoz in Conmebol).

I hope Peru's president, Alan Garcia has the balls to say to Mr. Blatter to suck his balls and **** Fifa, b/c soccer is Peru is more than just a private company from Fifa. It is the national sport and a religion almost and ppl there are just dead tired to see what goes on.:mad2:


yeah i know its pretty disappointing to see your national team like that, especially when you guys have some pretty good player. I'm sure if peru got their shit together they could become a real threat.

Was Pizarro banned for good or are they gonna give him a chance to play later on?

[Xizor]

i bet xizor doesnt know much about the mexican league.

Why do you say that man?

[tronxz28]

Dude you Mexicans have 10 zillion threads opened about Mexican soccer, I guess that says something.


That does not prove we overhype Mexico, it proves the following:

1.- We are the most active forum :blabla:
2.- This is the mexican forum so u should expect to see discussion about mexico :sad:
3.- Look at the ratio of mexicans in these forums vs other nationalities... :shocked:

I really do not see that overhyping that you guys claim... there is some but there is a bit of everything... it is more like a myth that you created and u just keep repeating the same thing again and again and now u r conviced that it is like that.

If there is overhyping then you guys also understimate mexico so there you go.

[el chingon]

Why do you say that man?
come on man. everybody knows you dont just by the posts you make.

you can tell right away by the way someone talks if they're a knowledgable person.

[Calif]

Eventhough This year Mexico was not represented good during the FIFA Club World Cup do you guys think that it will be good to have this championship in Mexico?