View Full Version : mexicans in europe:bad or unlucky?
caruiz93
08-08-2006, 06:10 PM
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caruiz93
08-08-2006, 06:16 PM
are mexicans in europe bad or unlucky?look at all the many stories of maxicans failing to do anythign in europe..but you also have to look at the background
cuahtemoc blanco:valladolid bought him a few years ago bbut he failed to impress and came back to mexico but does he suck?no.he failed because right before the transferr in a game against trinindad he was fouled in the box extreemely hard and he tore his kne nerves and many other parts of the knee his knee was in a terrible condition but even in his condition way he scored amazing goals in spain bvut failed to impress.his store says that he could have been great but he was terrribly injured.
francisco palencia:Are you serious?al he can do is kick the ball hard but he has nothing special.
jared borgetti:he had a great era with mexico national team but hen bolton bought him he was 33.how does anyone except to get the same performances from a player when he is 30 and when he is 33.now he is going to some arab club.
we need to send our real talent to europe like andres guardado,osorio,salcido,marquez,dos santos,vela,sanchez,ochoa,luis poerez
dannymex
08-08-2006, 07:00 PM
would luis perez fit in europe... hes a good player but i dont know if he'd be able to do anythig
caruiz93
08-08-2006, 09:23 PM
would luis perez fit in europe... hes a good player but i dont know if he'd be able to do anythig
maybe in a bad team.
Calif
08-08-2006, 09:56 PM
Good!!!!!!!
Xizor
08-08-2006, 10:00 PM
maybe in a bad team.
Luiz Perez doesn't suck, he would be good in a team like Racing, Celta, Zaragoza, Treviso, Bolton, Malaga, shit maybe even in Villareal. He would be good in a sucky first division team in other words.
dannymex
08-08-2006, 10:02 PM
Luiz Perez doesn't suck, he would be good in a team like Racing, Celta, Zaragoza, Treviso, Bolton, Malaga, shit maybe even in Villareal. He would be good in a sucky first division team in other words.
yup, no one said he sucked.
caruiz93
08-09-2006, 12:18 AM
he is god but the position he plays is very competed for in europe.
benfica64
08-09-2006, 01:50 AM
? Dude I must confess I like your AV. Yes cheer your new team to Glory.
caruiz93
08-09-2006, 01:54 AM
yeah!!this is benficas year!!
benfica64
08-09-2006, 01:57 AM
well fosnseca just joined his new team, And I do believe he played today against Austria wein and played good, but I have too check even though A friend of mine said he played. I think He will benifit from playing for a historical Club such as Benfica and I think in the end he will only be a better player. Some Mexicans (yes) dont seem to be able to fall into the European game for what ever reason home sickness to just not adapting to a different style of play what ever the reason I still say its a positive to allow and have Mexicans go over and play in Europe. If you take 30 Mexicans into Europe 20 off them end up coming home real quick 10 remain and do good then I say that is a positive, not negative.
caruiz93
08-09-2006, 02:05 AM
well fosnseca just joined his new team, And I do believe he played today against Austria wein and played good, but I have too check even though A friend of mine said he played. I think He will benifit from playing for a historical Club such as Benfica and I think in the end he will only be a better player. Some Mexicans (yes) dont seem to be able to fall into the European game for what ever reason home sickness to just not adapting to a different style of play what ever the reason I still say its a positive to allow and have Mexicans go over and play in Europe. If you take 30 Mexicans into Europe 20 off them end up coming home real quick 10 remain and do good then I say that is a positive, not negative.
i dont think its a sickness i think its the conditions.when cuahtemoc blanco went to spain he was severly injured by a foul that a trinindad player did to him that tore his knee apart.he took long to reecuperate and that affected him.jared borgetti was signed last season but he is already 32 years old and you cant expect an old guy to do great things.frnacisco palencia sucked he just kicked the ball really hard thats pretty much all he did.but look at rafael marquez,he went to monaco when he was young ang at a learning stage and look at him now.
ricoo9
08-09-2006, 04:37 PM
are mexicans in europe bad or unlucky?look at all the many stories of maxicans failing to do anythign in europe..but you also have to look at the background
cuahtemoc blanco:valladolid bought him a few years ago bbut he failed to impress and came back to mexico but does he suck?no.he failed because right before the transferr in a game against trinindad he was fouled in the box extreemely hard and he tore his kne nerves and many other parts of the knee his knee was in a terrible condition but even in his condition way he scored amazing goals in spain bvut failed to impress.his store says that he could have been great but he was terrribly injured.
francisco palencia:Are you serious?al he can do is kick the ball hard but he has nothing special.
jared borgetti:he had a great era with mexico national team but hen bolton bought him he was 33.how does anyone except to get the same performances from a player when he is 30 and when he is 33.now he is going to some arab club.
we need to send our real talent to europe like andres guardado,osorio,salcido,marquez,dos santos,vela,sanchez,ochoa,luis poerez
face it man, Blanco just wasnt good enough in that mediocre team.... "he played some games but failed to impress"...well duh!! u said it there urself bud, HE FAILED TO IMPRESS!!! and dude Borgetti? wasnt he in his prime when they sold him to Bolton? All hes done there is make sure bolton is drinking quality H2o :lol: well at least u have a young fonseca in a good club. We'll see how that goes.
el chingon
08-09-2006, 05:24 PM
borgetti aint really a good overall player. the reason he gets so many goals is because he's a "cazagol". he just waits up infront wait for a pass for him to score a goal. i cant remember the last time he made a play by himself and scored a goal. most of his goals come from a cross and he just heads it in. or a pass were he just has to tap it in.
what mexico needs is a forward who can make a play by himself and score. kind of like hugo sanchez. i think carlos vela would be that kind of player, also ever guzman is a forward that can score by himself. hopefully those 2 players and giovani dos santos take us far in the world cup
footofgod
08-09-2006, 07:00 PM
Mexican players in Europe arent just unlucky theyre unpopular. Most european teams and players treat them like shit. Thats why I get happy when they get humiliated by Chivas or America.
benfica64
08-09-2006, 09:57 PM
borgetti aint really a good overall player. the reason he gets so many goals is because he's a "cazagol". he just waits up infront wait for a pass for him to score a goal. i cant remember the last time he made a play by himself and scored a goal. most of his goals come from a cross and he just heads it in. or a pass were he just has to tap it in.
what mexico needs is a forward who can make a play by himself and score. kind of like hugo sanchez. i think carlos vela would be that kind of player, also ever guzman is a forward that can score by himself. hopefully those 2 players and giovani dos santos take us far in the world cup
I agree Borgetti pretty much sucks and is washed up and even in his prime was not a good player very average at best. There is certainly much more talent on the mexican squad then borgetti. Borgetti reminds me of Pauleta only difference is Paulta was actually a good player in his time and was leading scorer in France for some years in the top club. The past 2 world cups he hasnt done Nada for the national team, and like borgetti he just pretty much took a chair up fron and waiting for it to land on his feet, outside of that he did very little running around. He retired after the world cup which was a good Idea hes 34 not doing it for the national team why not quit. I found out Fonseca did play against Aek but they said he didnt do a damn thing, then the game against Austria wien he came into the game in the 79th minute. I hope Kikin starts to kick ass sometime soon!! maybe pop in a few in the return leg with wein, i sure would love that.
rojinegro13
08-10-2006, 07:38 PM
yes it would definetly help if he got more time, hey now with sambrosa gone that could happen, anyways about palencia, is not that the team didnt want to keep him is just that he wanted more$$$$. and blanco well the injury and dont forget that the team changed coaches and the new coach didnt like him.borgetti well his age isnt helping him, but he might have one good year left in him, and then come back to mexico or to a smaller european club. the big news right now is the offer that real madrid made for andres guardado, hopefully this will go thru, the only bad thing is that atlas wants him to stay to finish this season, and I dont think that real would want that, and they also want him to be bought and thats undertstandeble if a club like madird wants a player they'll buy him outright and not get him on loan.
Mexicansoccer
08-14-2006, 02:03 AM
We are just unlucky, porque somos chingones really.
RojINeGrO5051
08-16-2006, 05:34 AM
kikin fonseca scored a gol in benfica victory over the Love star 3-1
Calif
08-16-2006, 06:31 AM
Yep good for Kikin Fonseca this is what Benfica wants from him goals lots of goals!!!!!!
unam_mx
08-21-2006, 06:05 PM
Blanco couldve been good had he not gotten injured, Palencia I didnt know the reason for why he didnt stay longer but someone claims it was because he wanted more money so u cant fault his talent if that's true...u can fault his greedyness but not his skills.Borgetti I dont understand why why people say he sucked at Bolton, cause that is far from the truth.Not getting playing time and not performing well are two very different things, when Borgetti got playing time he normally scored what else do we expect from him?I hear crap from people and the coach about how he didnt live up to expectations and that is complete BS, because in the short amount of playing time he got he performed well.Also yes he is a player that needs a good cross or a good pass but he is a great finisher, a typical #9, and it may look easy but its not.If it was as easy as it looks most of us would be playing pro-football, Borgetti has great timing on his headers and he is a good finisher with his feet as well.He's not as bad as some of u guys claim he is, he is past his prime but he's still a pretty good player.
Xizor
08-27-2006, 06:58 AM
Blanco couldve been good had he not gotten injured, Palencia I didnt know the reason for why he didnt stay longer but someone claims it was because he wanted more money so u cant fault his talent if that's true...u can fault his greedyness but not his skills.Borgetti I dont understand why why people say he sucked at Bolton, cause that is far from the truth.Not getting playing time and not performing well are two very different things, when Borgetti got playing time he normally scored what else do we expect from him?I hear crap from people and the coach about how he didnt live up to expectations and that is complete BS, because in the short amount of playing time he got he performed well.Also yes he is a player that needs a good cross or a good pass but he is a great finisher, a typical #9, and it may look easy but its not.If it was as easy as it looks most of us would be playing pro-football, Borgetti has great timing on his headers and he is a good finisher with his feet as well.He's not as bad as some of u guys claim he is, he is past his prime but he's still a pretty good player.
Well said. :)
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