Ancient Illyria and Ethnic Albania as Playable Civilizations!

[Sandro1]

The mod you've all been waiting for! I introduce Ancient Illyria and Ethnic Albania as 2 playable civilizations, complete with custom music. Enjoy :)

Ancient Illyria
Description: Illyrian Empire
Short Desc: Illyria
Adjective: Illyrian

Starting Technologies: The Wheel and Mining

Unique Unit: Kambsor (replaces Spearman)
-5 strength, 50% withdrawal probability, 0-2 first strikes, 40 cost
Lembi (replacing Galley) is a flavor unit only

Leader: Teuta (Aggressive, Expansive, favors Representation)


Ethnic Albania
Description: Albanian Empire
Short Desc: Albania
Adjective: Albanian

Starting Technologies: Mysticism and Agriculture

Unique Unit: Kalorsë (replaces Knight)
-10 strength, 2 movement, ignores terrain movement costs, 1 first strike, doesn't recieve defensive bonuses, 25% withdrawal chance, 100 cost

Leader: Gjergj Kastrioti (Philosophical, Organized, favors Theocracy)

City Lists:
Illyria:
--Skodra
--Dyrrahu
--Lissus
--Albanopoli
--Valona
--Damastion
--Olcini
--Dodona
--Skupi
--Antivar
--Antiparta
--Mathi
--Rhizon
--Buthrint
--Enkelana
--Ulpiana
--Delmin
--Salona
--Narona
--Epidau
--Manastir
--Uskana
--Basania
--Traguriu
--Eordaei
--Amantia
--Lychnidis
--Styberra
--Oeneu
--Draudaku
--Meteon
--Siscia
--Metulum
--Dociea
--Skardona
--Blandona

Albania:
--Shkodra
--Durrës
--Lezhë
--Krujë
--Vlonë
--Prizren
--Ulqin
--Albulena
--Mati
--Prishtina
--Shkup
--Tivari
--Gjirokastër
--Tirana
--Koplik
--Saranda
--Tropoja
--Berat
--Gjakova
--Drenica
--Manastiri
--Fier
--Janina
--Tuzi
--Butrint
--Korça
--Lushnjë
--Ohër


This mod has made a group of guys from the civilization fanatic center, and it looks amazing i though i should show u this also here, features the two most beautiful units I have seen, Aranor created the Illyrian unit skins, and korvgubben created the Albanian unit skins. They look simply amazing:

The screenshots
http://img55.imageshack.us/img55/3690/alb100002wn.th.jpg (http://img55.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alb100002wn.jpg) http://img222.imageshack.us/img222/8094/alb200003dz.th.jpg (http://img222.imageshack.us/my.php?image=alb200003dz.jpg) http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/2055/illkambsor20gt.th.jpg (http://img62.imageshack.us/my.php?image=illkambsor20gt.jpg) http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/3272/gjergjkastriotipedia4zl.th.jpg (http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=gjergjkastriotipedia4zl.jpg) http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8528/albkalorse2bq.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=albkalorse2bq.jpg) http://img58.imageshack.us/img58/8140/kambsorfortify5oa.th.jpg (http://img58.imageshack.us/my.php?image=kambsorfortify5oa.jpg)

There is also a custom piece of music created for each era and added to the playlist. The menu music has also been changed to add Albanian flavor to the mod. It fits in nicely and sounds even better than Baba Yetu!

[Sandro1]

The Download: http://www.3ddownloads.com/Strategy/Civilization%204/Mods/IllyriaAlbania/IllyriaAlbania117.zip

I hope u will enjoy it, just try it out :)

[GentiaNi]

Awesome !!! looks good Sandro:) is it available to play it right now, becuase i really cant wait to try it out, considering the screeshots and the graphics looks very good.. also i like the costumes and the music btw thanks again for puting it here, once i lost the link and couldnt find it so thanks man..:)

Downloading..

[ARBERIA]

wow seem quit interesting game to try, I think im dowloadin it now, hopefully it is as i think to be, allthough the screenshots looks great, nice one man,
btw Is it a big file to download :rolleyes: ??

[Lance Knight]

hey nice what game is that?

[poutismalakas]

sandro1 do you design pc games?? if so are you a producer or programer??

[ARBANITAI]

The Download: http://www.3ddownloads.com/Strategy/Civilization%204/Mods/IllyriaAlbania/IllyriaAlbania117.zip

I hope u will enjoy it, just try it out :)

Congratulations you've finally made it. Quite frankly I was planning to do it a while ago, but then you made your intensions public and hey, one less work, away from my shoulders...
SO Great "Ancient Illyria and Ethnic Albania as playable civilizations" was a good idea Im sure u did that great too even i havnt tried it out yet, I believe its cool, i think our friend shqype had a simmilar game like that or how they call it mod;) something like ancient civilizations Pc games, Allthough i really have to say i like this one, the graphix looks very good, the music im sure you must put some real gang traditional music :p But yeah looks very good, Ill be downloading it now and tries it out, then i will tell more what i think of it..:)

Cheerz..!

[Sandro1]

wow seem quit interesting game to try, I think im dowloadin it now, hopefully it is as i think to be, allthough the screenshots looks great, nice one man,
btw Is it a big file to download :rolleyes: ??

Yeah just try it out mate, and no its not that a big file to download;)

[Sandro1]

hey nice what game is that?

Yes The game is quit exciting actually, and for those who are more up to ancient civilization games,Wars like the ancient Empires, For example you could choose ur own empire you want, you favourite leader u think he can do best etc, you can also add many other things there, there are many options depends on how you do it, this is one is game is made by me and some other friends of mine who helped me compled it all...

[Sandro1]

sandro1 do you design pc games?? if so are you a producer or programer??

Yes I do design pc games, not in the best level yet maybe, but still ok i think, btw that is also one of my interests, and producer yeah u can say that, since I do design pc games, and made up other stuff like that, But about programer well nah not that it is my job, however if i had to do it, I think i can somehow i also used to sometimes..

[Sandro1]

Congratulations you've finally made it. Quite frankly I was planning to do it a while ago, but then you made your intensions public and hey, one less work, away from my shoulders...
SO Great "Ancient Illyria and Ethnic Albania as playable civilizations" was a good idea Im sure u did that great too even i havnt tried it out yet, I believe its cool, i think our friend shqype had a simmilar game like that or how they call it mod;) something like ancient civilizations Pc games, Allthough i really have to say i like this one, the graphix looks very good, the music im sure you must put some real gang traditional music :p But yeah looks very good, Ill be downloading it now and tries it out, then i will tell more what i think of it..:)

Cheerz..!

yeh Hecuran I originally began this in july, believe it or not. :faint2: But then I kept adding things to make it better, because if it fails something i knew you would be the first to notice it heco thats why i had to make sure :D Then I decided to add the Illyrians as well to represent the ancient Albanians. I didn't want to release anything less than complete, which is why it took so long. But, finally, it is out. I'de like to hear your feedback, especially about the music. The openin menu music is a good representation of some Albanian beats and instruments.

[ARBANITAI]

yeh Hecuran I originally began this in july, believe it or not. :faint2: But then I kept adding things to make it better, because if it fails something i knew you would be the first to notice it heco thats why i had to make sure :D Then I decided to add the Illyrians as well to represent the ancient Albanians. I didn't want to release anything less than complete, which is why it took so long. But, finally, it is out. I'de like to hear your feedback, especially about the music. The openin menu music is a good representation of some Albanian beats and instruments.

No I se nothing wrong with it yet, it looks amazing really, nice job :clap2: :thumb:
So now you need to update us on some of the cities, the modern versions of the Illyrian cities and the older versions of the Albanian ones.
For example the ones in Shkodra area and what are the names you used for Durres and Korca (Monastir) etc. If you could provide them with the geographic region they lie on today that would be even better.
Thanks... :tea:

[Sandro1]

No I se nothing wrong with it yet, it looks amazing really, nice job :clap2: :thumb:
So now you need to update us on some of the cities, the modern versions of the Illyrian cities and the older versions of the Albanian ones.
For example the ones in Shkodra area and what are the names you used for Durres and Korca (Monastir) etc. If you could provide them with the geographic region they lie on today that would be even better.
Thanks... :tea:


YEaH Sure, maybe i need to update some of the cities, I know what you mean,very good idea, I´ll start on that later I will remember..:tea:

[ARBANITAI]

YEaH Sure, maybe i need to update some of the cities, I know what you mean,very good idea, I´ll start on that later I will remember..:tea:

Great you do that..

BTW I´v just tried and the menu is great i also like the music,
I played as the albanians kalorse and was plesently suprised by the UU.
No prob but i thought it might be underpowerd but it severd me well on my campaign against Mali:p
I also thought the skining of the unit was done well man how did you get two horesmen and a knight to mix?

[poutismalakas]

Yes I do design pc games, not in the best level yet maybe, but still ok i think, btw that is also one of my interests, and producer yeah u can say that, since I do design pc games, and made up other stuff like that, But about programer well nah not that it is my job, however if i had to do it, I think i can somehow i also used to sometimes..
I was just curious cause a good friend of mine down here in SD is a game programmer and is trying to start up a company with another friend of mine.

[Sandro1]

Great you do that..

BTW I´v just tried and the menu is great i also like the music,
I played as the albanians kalorse and was plesently suprised by the UU.
No prob but i thought it might be underpowerd but it severd me well on my campaign against Mali:p
I also thought the skining of the unit was done well man how did you get two horesmen and a knight to mix?

On a first run you may think the Albanian UU is overpowered, but compare it to the vaniia Spanish Conquistador:

Conquistador:
10 strength, 2 movement, 2 first strikes, Immune to first strikes, recieves defensive bonuses, +50% vs. melee units, 90 cost

Kalorse:
10 strength, 3 movement, 1 first strike, not immune to first strikes, doesn't recieve defensive bonuses, 35% withdrawal chance, Flanking 1, 100 cost

Comparably to the Spanish Conquistador, the Albanian Kalorse is fair. Plus, they were fast hit-and-run units that defeated the most powerful army of the world, so it's only natural that they're powerful. Still, compared to the vanilla UUs, not overpowered ;)

[Sandro1]

I was just curious cause a good friend of mine down here in SD is a game programmer and is trying to start up a company with another friend of mine.

aha..thats a very good Ide by your friend actually,Because since you know the stuff, no matter what it is, then why not go for it..;)

I my self started this for a couple of years, first it was just an idea but when u have the passion in something and u love ur job, you will have success for sure, no matter what it was, allthough i see my own more as an hobby right now, i like graphics and i got the ide, but its all fun and good at moment..;)

[ARBANITAI]

On a first run you may think the Albanian UU is overpowered, but compare it to the vaniia Spanish Conquistador:

Conquistador:
10 strength, 2 movement, 2 first strikes, Immune to first strikes, recieves defensive bonuses, +50% vs. melee units, 90 cost

Kalorse:
10 strength, 3 movement, 1 first strike, not immune to first strikes, doesn't recieve defensive bonuses, 35% withdrawal chance, Flanking 1, 100 cost

Comparably to the Spanish Conquistador, the Albanian Kalorse is fair. Plus, they were fast hit-and-run units that defeated the most powerful army of the world, so it's only natural that they're powerful. Still, compared to the vanilla UUs, not overpowered ;)

Yeah but Conquistador doesn't get any extra first strikes.
So it gets +50 bonus against melee and ability to get defensive bonuses compared to Knights.

Now, your Kalorse compared to that had +1movement (alone makes worth UU), excellent retreat chance of 35% (does that include flanking too?) and first stike, with loss of first stike immunity.

Now both +1movement or 35% retreat if alone added to some unit would make excellent UU.

Also one first strike is usually much better then first stike immunity, since it function just like immunity when enemy has 1 first stike, and in other cases it give an edge.

I suggest toning down. For start I would remove movment bonus.
(and it would also solve problem with Cavalry being slower then a knight)


Then it still on powerful side since you get Flanking for free, which mean flanking II is easy to obtain. So with one promotion is in monsterous 55% retreat (and gain of the first strike immunity).

When I think about it I would remove flanking bonus too to keep it on balance. That leaves it with 25% withdraw AND 1 first strike.

Not bad if you compare to Arabic Camel archer that only get 25% retreat and no need for resources. :D ;) ;)

Optionally if you really want to keep Flanking, then remove first stike.
(35% reatreat with 55% with just one promotion is VERY powerful;) ;)

[Sandro1]

Hec

Then It should be 35% withdrawal with +10 from Flank 1, making it 45%, with the second promotion it would be 65%. It may make it overpowered, but these units were primarily hit-and-run units, which is why I gave them a high withdrawal chance. Same thing with speed, they were the fastest units available and had to travel quickly up and down Albania to predict where the enemy army was going to strike next.

Right now I'm thinking about removing the Flanking 1 promotion. How does that sound? :heart: