Famous Albanians II

[philipas]

Are there any famous Albanians or "Illyrians" that have left a major impact on the world? Please list them.

This is not meant to be a flame, but genuine curiosity. :)

[Sandro1]

Are there any famous Albanians or "Illyrians" that have left a major impact on the world? Please list them.

This is not meant to be a flame, but genuine curiosity. :)

yeah what exactly are you interesting at, there are alot of them...:rolleyes: does it matters what occupation they have or just all of them?

Anyway here is a link of famous Albanians, maybe this could help you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Albanians

[Sandro1]

those most 50 famous Albanians

1. Ismail Kadare – Writer
“Man Booker Prize”
2. Inva Mula – soprano
3. Ana Oxa – Singer Italy
4. Sandra Bullock, actress USa
5. James Belushi – actor, usa
6. Eda Zari - Singer Germany
7. Ferid Murati
“Nobel prize”
8. Angjelin Prelocaj
9. Eliza Dushku – actres, USA
10. Agim Kaba – Actor, USA
11. Stan Dragoti – Producer, USA
12. Richard Lukaj – ekonomic, Wall Street,
13. Joseph DioGuardi – Congressman, USA
14. Emina Cunmulaj – model USA
15. Donald Lambro – Journalist, USA
16. Tie (Tahir) Domi – famous hockey player Canada
17. James Biberi – Actor,--USA
18. Tania Doko – Singer, Australia
19. Mirela Tafaj – soprano, Canada
20. Elona Bojaxhi – ACTRES Model USA
21. Laureta Meci – Actres, USA
22. Ilir Shaqiri – balerin, Italy
23. Kledi Kadiu – balerin, Italy
24. Leon Cino – balerin, Italy
25. Klajdi Selimi – balerin, Italy
26. Marina Malota – ACTRES USA
27. Tedi Papavrami – violinist, France
28. Erald Dervishi – World champion in Chess
29. Mirsa Adami – pianist Netherlands
30. Saimir Pirgu – tenor
31. Nate Dushku – ACTOR USA
32. Hila Popaj – Actor, Usa (Chinatown)
33. Liria Begeja – regjisore, Francë
34. Elsa Lila – këngëtare, Italy
35. Astrit Zejnati – balerin, Arizona, USA
36. Miriam Cani – singer, Germany
37. Stefi Gjine – teniste, Canada
38. William Gregory – Astronaut, USA
39. Aurela Gaçe - singer, USA
40. Mother Teresa
41. Ambeta Toromani – balerinë,
42. Oni Pustina – model, Italy
43. Valbona Çoba – model, actres, USA
44. Aris Golemi – balet maestro, koreograph
45. Masiela Lusha younh actres usa
46. Kristina O’Donnelly writer
47. Mariela Cingo
48. Laura Mersini Houghton
49. Ardian Harri
Ai është një profesor shqiptar në Universitetin e Shtetit të Misisipit në departamentin e ekonomisë bujqësore
50. Luan Krasniqi, boxer
Box champion of europe..

sorry i didnt add more about them..

[Sandro1]

Ancient Famous Albanians > Emperors

Illyrian Kings and Queens

Bardylis (I)
Grabus
Pleuratus
Kleitus
Glaukias
Bardylis II
Monunius
Mytilius
Pleuratus II
Agron
Pinnes
Skerdilaidas
Pleuratus III
Gentius
Balaios
Queen Teuta
[edit]

Roman Emperors of Illyrian descendant

Decius
Claudius II "Gothicus"
Quintillus
Aurelian
Tacitus
Florianus Pius
Probus
Carus
Numerian
Maximianus "Herculius"
Septimius Severus
Maximinus "Daia"
Licinius I
Jovian
Valentinianus I
Valens
Gratian
Valentinianus II
Constantius III
Marcianus
Hostilianus
Gallienus
[edit]

Byzantine Emperors of Illyrian descendant
Justin I
Justinian I
Anastasius I


Other Illyrians

Jerome - the translator of the Bible from Greek and Hebrew into Latin.
Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino.
Baraliris - Illyrian leader of the Molosi tribe.
Audata - Illyrian women, once wife of Philip II.
Bircenna - daughter of Bardylis.
Caravantius - brother of King Gentius.
Cynane - daughter of Audata and Philip II, half-sister of Alexander the Great.
Flavianus - governor of Egypt.
Marcellinus Comes - an obscure 6th-century chronicler.
Celer - Magister Officiorum (The Master of Offices).
Peter Patricus - Byzantine historian of 6th century.
Plator - Brother of King Gentius.
Teuticus - Illyrian noble, who was sent to Rome as an ambassador by King Gentius.
Pithon - Governor of Greater Media.
Taurus Volusianus
Flava Valeria Constantia - daughter of Constantius Chlorus
Flava Macima Constantia - daughter of Constantius II

[Panathinaikos2]

What kind of important achievements did the Illirians accomplished?

[Sandro1]

what do you mean what kind of achievments

[Panathinaikos2]

what do you mean what kind of achievmentsLike what famouse achievements were the Illirians known for such as inventions and stuff.

[PAO_HELLAS]

I didn't knew Sandra Bullock is Albanian. She looks like anyway :D.

[ulster21]

Like what famouse achievements were the Illirians known for such as inventions and stuff.

This question may take a while to be answered :lol:

[Panathinaikos2]

This question may take a while to be answered :lol:Sadly you may be right :D

[philipas]

yeah what exactly are you interesting at, there are alot of them...:rolleyes: does it matters what occupation they have or just all of them?

Anyway here is a link of famous Albanians, maybe this could help you

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Albanians Wow interesting list, but not sure if it's accurate. After all it says George Tenet (George Tenet) is Albanian when it is well known that his ancestry is Greek.

Every country has lists as big as, if not bigger than that anyway, so can you tell me major figures that are "giants" in their field:

Eg.
Plato - Greek philosopher
Leonardo Da Vinci - Italian scientist/inventor
Newton - English scientist
Bell - Scottish inventor
Voltaire - French philosoper
Goethe - German writer
Tesla - Serbian scientist/inventor
Corpenicus - Polish philosopher
Con***iious - Chinese philosopher
etc etc etc

Also, were there any ancient Illyrians of world renown? Give us a major invention, movement started etc. Take your time. :)

[GentiaNi]

This question may take a while to be answered :lol:

welcome on board Mr.Racist have fun biatch :lol:

[GentiaNi]

Like what famouse achievements were the Illirians known for such as inventions and stuff.

why do you ask so much, why dont you read that by yourself instead of botherin another to read for you :lol:

[GentiaNi]

Sadly you may be right :D

dont pay attention to unbehaved ppl like ulster, if you want others to takes and behave you serious enough! :)

[poutismalakas]

Skederburg(Can't spell his name) is a Albanian king/leader who fought Mehmet the MALAKAS around the time of the fall of Constantinopolis . That Albanian had a BIGGER sack that any of the Paleologos Emperor's except for Michael VIII and Constantine XI! That guy was WORTH following to battle!!!!

Also John Belushi and Regis Philman were left out! Regis is part of the same minority of Albanians whose ancestors fleed to Italy during the Ottoman period.

[GentiaNi]

Skederburg(Can't spell his name) is a Albanian king/leader who fought Mehmet the MALAKAS around the time of the fall of Constantinopolis . That Albanian had a BIGGER sack that any of the Paleologos Emperor's except for Michael VIII and Constantine XI! That guy was WORTH following to battle!!!!

Also John Belushi and Regis Philman were left out! Regis is part of the same minority of Albanians whose ancestors fleed to Italy during the Ottoman period.

his original name is Gjergj Kastrioti, Skenderbeg was the name the turks gave to him ! ISkender = Alexander in turkish so they gave him the name of Alexander..

Although he was a great fighter and resist the turkish invasion..

I still could not understand how constantiople fall in the hands of turks if skenderbeg and his army was there to defend im sure constantiople wouldnt fall at least not that easy like it does.. the fall of constantiople brought all of us in bad position and we all had to deal with turks then for 500 hundred years all balcans.. I cant forgive the byzantines or the greeks there because they gave constantiople that easy... its pretty sad:sad:

[poutismalakas]

Blaim the WEAK Emperors who thought about themselves so much that they gave away the Empire by making choices that screwed future Emperors!! Just look at Androkonos II Paleologos who allowed the armies in Asia Minor to crumble so the Osman could come in and was forced to Hire the Catalan Company of Almogavars (adventurous from Aragon and Catalonia) led by Roger de Flor to stop them only to have his son kill Roger and have that company get pissed and attack Greece.

[GentiaNi]

Thanks to Skenderbeg and Albanians who stand a fight for 25 years with Skenderbeg alive against ottomans Mehmet II, which allready had taken constantinople and whole Byzantium.. 12 years more without skenderbeg Albanians survived too, but failed after 12 years fight, the Albanians were getting weak year after year after the death of Skenderbeg, also the Unity that Skenderbeg has build between Albanian Princes was going DOWN time after time, because such leaders like Gjergj Kastriori was not present anymore, the turks captured Albania again after 37 years strong Resistance..

But these 37 years resistance periode played a big role, in these 37 years the Turks were in their greatest period and if it wasnt for Skenderbeg and Albanians who stand a fight, the turks very well would have occupayed the whole Europe, starting with Italy and up North to other western European countries...

Scanderbeg won the Tittle "the Defender of christianity" from the pope of that time of Vatican, as he was a religious christian as well, like the rest of Albania in that time..

[Milos_]

and how much of Albania is christian now?

[poutismalakas]

I think 10-25% are Christian in Albania if you included the ethnic Greeks and in Kosovo I think it less 10%.

GOD I love wikipedia (except for EVERYONE having the ability to edit articles)
The Albanians are mostly Muslim (70%), but during the communist era religion was prohibited. The Albanian government proclaimed Albania the only officially Atheist country in the world. After the fall of the Communist Regime in 1989–1990, religions were reinstated. According to 1939 statistics, the Albanian Orthodox (20%) and Catholic Church (10%) would be the other main religions in Albania. 20% of the total Muslim population is Bektashi, a Turkish Shi'a Sufi sect that came to Albania through the Ottoman Janissaries.

[GentiaNi]

and how much of Albania is christian now?

40% of todays Albanians in General are still of their native Christian faith,
while the rest of Albanians are mainly Muslims or just Atheists..
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It really depends on how Albanians kept their religion, in the southern Albania majority are Christians, Middle are muslim-christian mix and same with the northern while Kosova Albanians are majority Muslim for obvious reasons as the turks used to occupay Kosova most..

I my self is a Christian Albanian, but the Muslims Albanians are just same like us, they have nothing in comon with arabs or turks, they practice Albanian civilized culture and traditions, Also majority of them are not religious muslims, they are known as muslims but they dont practise it at all, and as well they practise the Culture of Illyrians and Gjergj Kastrioti the Albanian Culture wich is a christian culture..:)

[GentiaNi]

I think 10-25% are Christian in Albania if you included the ethnic Greeks and in Kosovo I think it less 10%.

The Albanians are mostly Muslim (70%), but during the communist era religion was prohibited. The Albanian government proclaimed Albania the only officially Atheist country in the world. After the fall of the Communist Regime in 1989–1990, religions were reinstated. According to 1939 statistics, the Albanian Orthodox (20%) and Catholic Church (10%) would be the other main religions in Albania. 20% of the total Muslim population is Bektashi, a Turkish Shi'a Sufi sect that came to Albania through the Ottoman Janissaries.

No Albanian christians in general now make 40% only Albanians no minority!

Yes during the communist era the country was proclaimed as Atheist country and it was kinda right because, they were not allowed to go to church or mosque they only practice it privatly..

But as I said muslims Albanians are just Albanians who practice Albanian culture and tradition same as with christian Albanians...

[poutismalakas]

No Albanian christians in general now make 40% only Albanians no minority!

Yes during the communist era the country was proclaimed as Atheist country and it was kinda right because, they were not allowed to go to church or mosque they only practice it privatly..

But as I said muslims Albanians are just Albanians who practice Albanian culture and tradition same as with christian Albanians...
Your Orthodox, Catholic, Evangelical, or Other Christian??

[Sandro1]

Protestant is also Christian !

[poutismalakas]

Protestant is also Christian !
If labels offend you I appologize but I was just making conversation with Gen.

If Gen's Orthodox I was wondering about the Albanian Bishop. I hear he's done Amazing work in Albania apparently he's Ethnic Greek and in the beginning the Nationalist didn't trust him but I hear that he got's LOTS of cred now!

[GentiaNi]

If labels offend you I appologize but I was just making conversation with Gen.

If Gen's Orthodox I was wondering about the Albanian Bishop. I hear he's done Amazing work in Albania apparently he's Ethnic Greek and in the beginning the Nationalist didn't trust him but I hear that he got's LOTS of cred now!

No Im Catholic, but the Albanian orthodox church is an Authocephalous church of Albania but recently a Greek is appointed as the orthodox Albanian Bishop..
Appointed to head the newly-revived Church by the Ecumenical Patriarch in 1991 was a Greek, Metropolitan Anastasios (Yannoulatos). He was named Archbishop of Tirana on 24 June 1992 and enthroned on 2 August 1992.

This means that Albanians are tolerants enough, even he is greek he is welcomed in Albania and he is there on the head of the Albanian orthodox church.

[Sandro1]

This was the famoused Albanian bishop Fan Stilian Noli. of the Orthodox faith

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/sq/4/44/Bishop_Noli.jpg

[ulster21]

ALEX RUDAJ- FAMOUS ALBANIAN MAFIA LEADER IN NEW YORK

also, a very interesting read about how the Albanian mafia is invading Italywww.balkanpeace.org/hed/archive/april00/hed70.shtml

[poutismalakas]

No Im Catholic, but the Albanian orthodox church is an Authocephalous church of Albania but recently a Greek is appointed as the orthodox Albanian Bishop..
Appointed to head the newly-revived Church by the Ecumenical Patriarch in 1991 was a Greek, Metropolitan Anastasios (Yannoulatos). He was named Archbishop of Tirana on 24 June 1992 and enthroned on 2 August 1992.

This means that Albanians are tolerants enough, even he is greek he is welcomed in Albania and he is there on the head of the Albanian orthodox church.
Well I read othervise that he wasn't trusted in the beginning but earned everyones respect by doing his job, ie. Helping people become closer to GOD while NOT getting involve in Politics!!!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Orthodox_Church
Appointed to head the newly-revived Church by the Ecumenical Patriarch in 1991 was a Greek, Metropolitan Anastasios (Yannoulatos). He was named Archbishop of Tirana on 24 June 1992 and enthroned on 2 August 1992. Though at first seen by the Albanian state as a possibly dangerous Greek nationalist, Anastasios has gained respect for his charity work and now is recognised as a spiritual leader of the Albanian society by citizens of all religions, dogmas and ethnic origins.

The Church currently has four dioceses, Tirana , Durrës and Elbasan; Berat and Kanina; Gjirokastër; and Korçë. The first bishops (metropolitans) appointed after the fall of the atheist communist regime were denied recognition by the Albanian state due to their Greek ethnic origin. The Church had to continue its reconstruction by appointing Albanian bishops of origin other than Greek.

[philipas]

poutis and others stick to topic please...:mad2:

Tell us famous Albanians that made a major contribution to the world.

[benfica64]

those most 50 famous Albanians

1. Ismail Kadare – Writer
“Man Booker Prize”
2. Inva Mula – soprano
3. Ana Oxa – Singer Italy
4. Sandra Bullock, actress USa
5. James Belushi – actor, usa
6. Eda Zari - Singer Germany
7. Ferid Murati
“Nobel prize”
8. Angjelin Prelocaj
9. Eliza Dushku – actres, USA
10. Agim Kaba – Actor, USA
11. Stan Dragoti – Producer, USA
12. Richard Lukaj – ekonomic, Wall Street,
13. Joseph DioGuardi – Congressman, USA
14. Emina Cunmulaj – model USA
15. Donald Lambro – Journalist, USA
16. Tie (Tahir) Domi – famous hockey player Canada
17. James Biberi – Actor,--USA
18. Tania Doko – Singer, Australia
19. Mirela Tafaj – soprano, Canada
20. Elona Bojaxhi – ACTRES Model USA
21. Laureta Meci – Actres, USA
22. Ilir Shaqiri – balerin, Italy
23. Kledi Kadiu – balerin, Italy
24. Leon Cino – balerin, Italy
25. Klajdi Selimi – balerin, Italy
26. Marina Malota – ACTRES USA
27. Tedi Papavrami – violinist, France
28. Erald Dervishi – World champion in Chess
29. Mirsa Adami – pianist Netherlands
30. Saimir Pirgu – tenor
31. Nate Dushku – ACTOR USA
32. Hila Popaj – Actor, Usa (Chinatown)
33. Liria Begeja – regjisore, Francë
34. Elsa Lila – këngëtare, Italy
35. Astrit Zejnati – balerin, Arizona, USA
36. Miriam Cani – singer, Germany
37. Stefi Gjine – teniste, Canada
38. William Gregory – Astronaut, USA
39. Aurela Gaçe - singer, USA
40. Mother Teresa
41. Ambeta Toromani – balerinë,
42. Oni Pustina – model, Italy
43. Valbona Çoba – model, actres, USA
44. Aris Golemi – balet maestro, koreograph
45. Masiela Lusha younh actres usa
46. Kristina O’Donnelly writer
47. Mariela Cingo
48. Laura Mersini Houghton
49. Ardian Harri
Ai është një profesor shqiptar në Universitetin e Shtetit të Misisipit në departamentin e ekonomisë bujqësore
50. Luan Krasniqi, boxer
Box champion of europe..

sorry i didnt add more about them..

Wow didnt know all these people were albanians, more to say I dont know most of them but I do know a few namely jim bulushi, sandra bullock and Tie tomi which is one of my fave hockey players.

[benfica64]

Wow didnt know all these people were albanians, more to say I dont know most of them but I do know a few namely jim bulushi, sandra bullock and Tie tomi which is one of my fave hockey players.

Actually I knew Tie Tomi was Albanian but not the others.

[poutismalakas]

I looked up Sandra Bullock wikipedia and it doen't say she's Albanian. It says her mother was German but didn't say anything about her father though. Where did you did you find that? Also you left out John Belushi!!!!

[philipas]

I'm still waiting to hear of famous Albanians. As famous as Socrates, El Greco, Maria Callas etc etc etc...

Are there any or are Albanians all talk???

[GentiaNi]

I'm still waiting to hear of famous Albanians. As famous as Socrates, El Greco, Maria Callas etc etc etc...

Are there any or are Albanians all talk???

Isnt Mother Teresa Famous Enough, or maybe the great Gjergj Kastrioti..
Or what about Jerome the translator of the bible where does he came from ?
Albanian famous architecht Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino. etc etc...

Ancient Famous Albanians > Emperors

Arent these people famous enough ?

Illyrian Kings and Queens

Bardylis (I)
Grabus
Pleuratus
Kleitus
Glaukias
Bardylis II
Monunius
Mytilius
Pleuratus II
Agron
Pinnes
Skerdilaidas
Pleuratus III
Gentius
Balaios
Queen Teuta
[edit]

Roman Emperors of Illyrian descendant

Decius
Claudius II "Gothicus"
Quintillus
Aurelian
Tacitus
Florianus Pius
Probus
Carus
Numerian
Maximianus "Herculius"
Septimius Severus
Maximinus "Daia"
Licinius I
Jovian
Valentinianus I
Valens
Gratian
Valentinianus II
Constantius III
Marcianus
Hostilianus
Gallienus
[edit]

Byzantine Emperors of Illyrian descendant
Justin I
Justinian I
Anastasius I


Other Illyrians

Jerome - the translator of the Bible from Greek and Hebrew into Latin.
Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino.
Baraliris - Illyrian leader of the Molosi tribe.
Audata - Illyrian women, once wife of Philip II.
Bircenna - daughter of Bardylis.
Caravantius - brother of King Gentius.
Cynane - daughter of Audata and Philip II, half-sister of Alexander the Great.
Flavianus - governor of Egypt.
Marcellinus Comes - an obscure 6th-century chronicler.
Celer - Magister Officiorum (The Master of Offices).
Peter Patricus - Byzantine historian of 6th century.
Plator - Brother of King Gentius.
Teuticus - Illyrian noble, who was sent to Rome as an ambassador by King Gentius.
Pithon - Governor of Greater Media.
Taurus Volusianus
Flava Valeria Constantia - daughter of Constantius Chlorus
Flava Macima Constantia - daughter of Constantius II

[GentiaNi]

I looked up Sandra Bullock wikipedia and it doen't say she's Albanian. It says her mother was German but didn't say anything about her father though. Where did you did you find that? Also you left out John Belushi!!!!

Its her Father of Albanian ancestry..
Imo John Belushi died on March 5, 1982, age 33, in a hotel room at the Chateau Marmont on Sunset Boulevard in Los Angeles, California. The cause of death was a speedball, an injection of cocaine and heroin. He was accompanied by his friend Robin Williams at the time of his death. His death was investigated by forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, among others, and while the findings were disputed, it was eventually officially ruled a drug-related accident.

[philipas]

OK, that's it then. Mother Teresa a humanitarian religious figure, who never lived and worked in Albania, is Albania's most famous Albanian.

Could be worse, could've been a tyrant like Stalin, who is probably Georgia's most famous person. Anyway, Mother Teresa worked with leper's in India and received public noteriety from a documentary that covered her life's work.

Her Indian critics allege that she was a right-wing Catholic who tried to convert the local Hindu's to Christianity. Nonetheless, her contribution to humanity was extraordinary as are others who try to help outcasts, the sick and needy.

BTW, just out of interest are there any world famous Albanian Muslims as they are the majority of the population and just on that topic, can someone tell me why so many converted???

[ulster21]

The truth about Kosovo:
"Albania once was and still is a communistic nation. They had a close border to Jugoslavia, actually there were Albanian refuges who knocked on their door every day, asking "help us please, let us come to your country, we are refuges".

The Jugoslavian people said, ok, of course, we will help you. Come on here and try to settle down and feel free in the part of our courtry, which btw is called Kosovo (alost like a state).

Time went by and more and more "refuges" were welcomed by the Jugoslavian people. After some years had gone by, there was an awful lot of albanians in Kosovo (the state that the Jugoslavians welcomed them). Sadly, the crime also raised, so the Jugoslavian people moved up north instead, those new people they welcomed didn't seem too nice and there were more and more of them coming over the border.

Suddenly, the people who lived in Kosovo were 90% of refuges from Albania. Then they got that nice idea "aha, lets grab this part of the country and make it our own country. A new nation .. called .. uhhhm KosovoAlbania!! Brillant idea".

The people of Jugoslavia weren't too happy about some new bandits, which they naivly tried to help by, suddenly claimed that they had taken over their country, and asked UN to make it formal.

The Jugoslavian people, leaded by their prime minister, tried to fight back. They did not want to give away a main part of their country to people they thought they were helping by granting them access, so they put in the army and claimed war if they did not behave like guests and refuges.

Then the KosovoAlbanians (which they called themselves) screamed to the United Nations, come and help us. Those Jugoslavians are bad at us and try to invade our new nation.

Funny and sad thing about it is that NATO then started to bomb the Jugoslavian people for being bad against the KosovoAlbanians. They even arrested their prime minister and sent him to the court in Haag, accused for being a murderer."

[poutismalakas]

Isnt Mother Teresa Famous Enough, or maybe the great Gjergj Kastrioti..
Or what about Jerome the translator of the bible where does he came from ?
Albanian famous architecht Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino. etc etc...

Ancient Famous Albanians > Emperors

Arent these people famous enough ?

Illyrian Kings and Queens

Bardylis (I)
Grabus
Pleuratus
Kleitus
Glaukias
Bardylis II
Monunius
Mytilius
Pleuratus II
Agron
Pinnes
Skerdilaidas
Pleuratus III
Gentius
Balaios
Queen Teuta
[edit]

Roman Emperors of Illyrian descendant

Decius
Claudius II "Gothicus"
Quintillus
Aurelian
Tacitus
Florianus Pius
Probus
Carus
Numerian
Maximianus "Herculius"
Septimius Severus
Maximinus "Daia"
Licinius I
Jovian
Valentinianus I
Valens
Gratian
Valentinianus II
Constantius III
Marcianus
Hostilianus
Gallienus
[edit]

Byzantine Emperors of Illyrian descendant
Justin I
Justinian I
Anastasius I


Other Illyrians

Jerome - the translator of the Bible from Greek and Hebrew into Latin.
Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino.
Baraliris - Illyrian leader of the Molosi tribe.
Audata - Illyrian women, once wife of Philip II.
Bircenna - daughter of Bardylis.
Caravantius - brother of King Gentius.
Cynane - daughter of Audata and Philip II, half-sister of Alexander the Great.
Flavianus - governor of Egypt.
Marcellinus Comes - an obscure 6th-century chronicler.
Celer - Magister Officiorum (The Master of Offices).
Peter Patricus - Byzantine historian of 6th century.
Plator - Brother of King Gentius.
Teuticus - Illyrian noble, who was sent to Rome as an ambassador by King Gentius.
Pithon - Governor of Greater Media.
Taurus Volusianus
Flava Valeria Constantia - daughter of Constantius Chlorus
Flava Macima Constantia - daughter of Constantius II

I wouldn't claim the Illyrians since the Albanians are but 1 tribe! It's like the Navaho claiming a Mowhawk chieftain, even though both are Native Americans they are not the same tribe!!!!
Here are some Historical figure who are Albanian or of Albanian decent.
Monarchs
Mehemet Ali - viceroy of Egypt (ethnic Albanian)
Lekë Dukagjini - Prince of Albania
Abbas I of Egypt - Pasha of Egypt
Abbas II of Egypt - Khedive of Egypt
Farouk of Egypt - King of Egypt
Fawzia of Egypt - Princess of Egypt
Fuad I of Egypt - King of Egypt and Sudan
Fuad II of Egypt - King of Egypt
Sa'id of Egypt - Viceroy of Egypt
Husayn Kamil - Sultan of Egypt and King of The Sudan
Vasile Lupu - Prince of Moldavia
Leka Anwar Zog Reza Baudouin Msiziwe
Ismail Pasha - Khedive of Egypt
Tewfik Pasha - Khedive of Egypt
Mehmet Sa'id
Leka Zogu
Ahmet Zogu - King of Albania

Religious Figures
Husamedin Abazi- Imam of Hasan-Beg Mosque in Prishtina, Kosova.
Mahmut Aranauti- Famous Bektashi Baba, and founder of the first Albanian American Bektashi Monastery.
Ate Kola Berishaj - Catholic Priest
Pope Clement XI (1700-1721)
Pal Engjëlli - clergyman
Haxhi Hafiz Sabri Koçi- Grand Mutfi of Albania
Hasan Hafizi- Imam of Ethem Bey Mosque in Tirane, Albania.
Ahmet Kalaja- Imam of Main Mosque in Vlore, Albania.
Shefqet Krasniqi- Imam of Grand Mosque in Prishtina, Kosova.
Don Lush Gjergji- Catholic archbishop.
Rrok Mirdita - Catholic archbishop
Selim Muça- Current Mutfi of Albania
Muhammad Naasiruddeen al-Albaanee- Famous Islamic Scholar.
Fan S. Noli - Albanian Orthodox Bishop
Dhulkarnejt Ramadani- Imam of Grand Mosque in Skopje, Macedonia.
Baba Rexheb - Famous Bektashi Baba.
Abdul-Rrahman Sokoli- President of IISNA
Mother Teresa - famous Albanian missionary
Naim Ternava- Mutfi of Kosova


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_language

Also check out the history of the Albanian language

The Albanian language has been variously attached to Illyrian, Thracian, and Messapian. Only the latter, to a small extent, has left any evidence that may in any way liken it to Albanian. Consider the Messapic words bilia (Alb bijë "daughter"), brendon "deer" (Alb bri, brî "horn", pl. brirë, brinë), hazavathi 'he pours out' (Alb deh "to make drunk"), klaohi 'listen!' (Alb quaj, quej "to call, give a name"), kos (Alb kush "who"), veinan (Alb vehte "self"), venas (Alb uri, û "hunger"), etc. Messapian settlements are known to have existed along the Adriatic in both Italy and Illyria. Indeed, Messapian has left several words in Italian or in neighboring Italo-Roman languages, including manzo "ox" (cf. Alb mëz, mâz "poney"), northern bagola, bagula (cf. Alb bajgë "dung"), dialectal musso "ass" (cf. Alb mushk "mule").

Even the name Albanian is of some dispute. Appearing in the 9th c. in Greek as the Arvanoi, and thereafter under similar names, including obsolete Albanian arbër or arbën, it had been presumed to stem from Vulgar Latin Albanus, from the southern Illyrian tribal name Albanoí. However, others like Orel attach it instead to a slight corruption of Labëri "Laberia", from South Slavic labanĭja, from olbanĭja. The name Tosk, Alb toskë, was borrowed from Venetian tosko "rough, crude", literally "Tuscan".

The trouble of a homeland for the Albanians becomes all the more problematic. Despite Albanian nationalist claims to the contrary, the Albanians almost certainly came from farther north and inland than would suggest the present borders of Albania. First, Albanian has few early Greek borrowings, and the very word for Greek, gërk, was borrowed from South Slavic; cf. Bulg. grŭk, Serb-Croat gr"k. Similarly, the Illyrian coast is not a likely source since Albanian has no inherited nautical or indigenous sea-faring terminology, and has instead supplemented this absence with subsequent borrowing from Latin or Greek or recent metaphorical lexical creations. Also, Albanian is believed to be the source for a number of grammatical and lexical similarities shared by otherwise dissimilar languages including Romanian, Bulgarian, Serbo-Croatian, and to some extent Greek. Also, there is a lack of Proto-Albanian place names in Illyria. Likewise, the word shqa, from Lat Sclavus "Slav" refers only to Bulgarians.

Instead, given the overwhelming amount of shepherding and mountaineering vocabulary as well as the extensive influence of Latin, it is more likely the Albanians come from north of the Jireček line, on the Latin-speaking side, perhaps from the late Roman province of Dardania from the western Balkans. The Northern Albanian Alps are referred to as Bjeshkët e Namena, and this region's name is believed by some to come from Proto-Albanian beškai tâi, giving Alb bjeshkë "mountain", borrowed ultimately from Vulgar Latin pastica "pasture".

Yet, one area in the late Roman province of Praevitana (modern northern Albania) seems to show an area where a primarily shepherding, transhumance population of Illyrians retained their culture. This area was based in the Mat district and the region of high mountains in Northern Albania, as well as in Dukagjin, Mirditë, and the mountains of Drin, from where the population would descend in the summer to the lowlands of western Albania, the Black Drin (Drin i zi) river valley, and into parts of Old Serbia. Indeed, the region's complete lack of Latin place names seems to imply little latinization of any kind and a more likely spot for the origin of Albanian.

The period in which Proto-Albanian and Latin interacted was protracted and drawn out over six centuries, 1st c. AD to 6th or 7th c. AD. This is born out into roughly three layers of borrowings, the largest number belonging to the second or middle layer. The first, with the fewest borrowings, was a time of less important interaction. The final period, probably preceding the Slavic or Germanic invasions, also has a notably smaller amount of borrowings. Each layer is characterized by a different treatment of most vowels, the first layer having several that follow the evolution of Early Proto-Albanian into Albanian; later layers reflect vowel changes indemic to Late Latin and presumably Proto-Romance. Other formative changes include the syncretism of several noun case endings, especially in the plural, as well as the largescale palatalization.

[ARBANITAI]

The truth about Kosovo:
"Albania once was and still is a communistic nation. They had a close border to Jugoslavia, actually there were Albanian refuges who knocked on their door every day, asking "help us please, let us come to your country, we are refuges".

The Jugoslavian people said, ok, of course, we will help you. Come on here and try to settle down and feel free in the part of our courtry, which btw is called Kosovo (alost like a state).

Time went by and more and more "refuges" were welcomed by the Jugoslavian people. After some years had gone by, there was an awful lot of albanians in Kosovo (the state that the Jugoslavians welcomed them). Sadly, the crime also raised, so the Jugoslavian people moved up north instead, those new people they welcomed didn't seem too nice and there were more and more of them coming over the border.

Suddenly, the people who lived in Kosovo were 90% of refuges from Albania. Then they got that nice idea "aha, lets grab this part of the country and make it our own country. A new nation .. called .. uhhhm KosovoAlbania!! Brillant idea".

The people of Jugoslavia weren't too happy about some new bandits, which they naivly tried to help by, suddenly claimed that they had taken over their country, and asked UN to make it formal.

The Jugoslavian people, leaded by their prime minister, tried to fight back. They did not want to give away a main part of their country to people they thought they were helping by granting them access, so they put in the army and claimed war if they did not behave like guests and refuges.

Then the KosovoAlbanians (which they called themselves) screamed to the United Nations, come and help us. Those Jugoslavians are bad at us and try to invade our new nation.

Funny and sad thing about it is that NATO then started to bomb the Jugoslavian people for being bad against the KosovoAlbanians. They even arrested their prime minister and sent him to the court in Haag, accused for being a murderer."


MY GOD LOOK AT THAT :lol: :lol: ulster u are really a big brainwashed ignorant once you dont have facts and proovs on that you said you better dont start anything like that!!

Im still laughin of ur story about Kosova :D u have nice Imagination Congrats on that :D

Ulster if you think u are wise enough u are wrong, lol tell me just one thing, Which of these 2 nations Albanians or Serbs (Jugoslavs) had Kosova for 2500 years ago, ulster do you know that serbs and slavs in general emigrate Balcans first in the early 7th century while Albanians were present here as Illyrians, and in fact there was no Serbia at all or croatia, these places were all Albanian tribes, the opossite happens, Albanians allowed slavs in their tribes, because slavs were the ones who came to balcans from somwhere northeast probably russia and settled in the early Albanian tribes, as a matter of fact the slavs begged and asked for help and food to eat from the illyrians, they were homless ppl, Illyrians allowed them to stay and they were like slaves to them and worked for them, as time goes the slavs (serbs) become stronger and more and suddenly started an holy war against the native ppl of balcans the Albanians, The slavs formed their own countries Serbia, Bosnia, Croatia montenegro into what was Illyrian territory for about 2000-2500 years ago---..

So your fake story that Albanians emigrate Kosovo is not true, while the true thing is that serbs emigrated Kosova and other Illyrian tribes in the early 7th century..
Kosovo was an Illyrian tribe and in ancient time was called Dardania...

Serbs are absolutely of out this, and they them selfes know they were just some invaders and not native ppl of balcans or kosovo..

Once again the Slavic Propaganda is very unbased and booring, The slavs of FYROM Macedonia are claiming Alexander the Great while the Slavs of Serbia are Claiming Kosova and stealing History from US !!!

[ulster21]

The Illyrians were never proven to be modern day Albanians........... And besides the Albanians have mixed so much with the Turks they should be considered 25% or 50% Turkish anyways.

[ARBANITAI]

The Illyrians were never proven to be modern day Albanians........... And besides the Albanians have mixed so much with the Turks they should be considered 25% or 50% Turkish anyways.

LOL you make claims without any evidence to back them up. :lol:

Once again ur coming here with ur extremly unbased arguments, that Albanians have been prooved to be modern Illyrian i have 1 million facts about it, but you will still remain as an ignorant since evertime you try you fail because you bring ur fake opinions and u dont have facts to back them up, which is even more stupid. Also if Albanians would have been a small mixed with anyone The Turks would be the last ones, for obvious reason Albanians have no turkish mix at all, Albanian remain by facts over 90% of them are pure Illyrians today, and the muslim Albanians shall not confuse withy turks because of same religion, an egyptian and a Persian both have same religion but how close are they?

Albanian has been shown to be a direct descendant of the ancient Illyrian language, and the most ancient surviving Indo-European language. It played a role in the formation of the ancient Greek and Roman languages, although once they were formed many words were borrowed, especially from the latter.

Albanian Illyrian continue

The Albanian language is considered the oldest surviving Indo-European language, regardless of how many words were in a dictionary written in five centuries ago.

PS - this is an image to show you the alphabet used by Gjon Ded Buzuku to write the first book in Albanian in 1555:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Gzim/liber-historikuABCse-308faqeTirane1986-super.jpg[/img
In the II Century BC, the geographer and astronomer from Alexandria, Ptolemy drafted a map of remarkable significance for the history of Illyria. This map shows the city of Albanopolisi (located south of Durrës), from which the Albanians were later on to be identified by the world.
In ‘History’ written in 1079-1080, Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates was first to refer to the "Albanoi" as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium.
In the II Century BC, in the History of the World, written by Polybius, there is mention of a city named Arbon in present day central Albania. The people who lived there were called Arbanios and Arbanitai.
In the II Century AD, Ptolemy, the geographer and astronomer from Alexandria, drafted a map of remarkable significance for the history of Illyria. This map shows the city of Albanopolis (located south of Durrës). Ptolemy also mentions the Illyrian tribe named Albanoi, who lived around this city.

Since antiquity, the Illyro-Albanians have survived 33 armed invasions, and have been under many large empires for extended periods of time, including the Roman, Bulgarian, and Turkish occupations. Cultural diffusion took place, and although Albanians adopted new words and new customs, they still maintained the structure of their Illyrian language and culture.

Your claim is not a fact, but an opinion formulated with ignorance. There are many Illyrians words still used today in the Albanian language, such as tambel (milk), kamb (foot), mal (mountain), gur (stone/rock), Zot (God), bardh (white), yll (star), etc. etc.

The extent of the territory inhabited by the Illyro-Albanians at the time of the arrival of the Slavs is suggested by place name. The well known Albanian linguist, E. Cabej, has remarked in "Die aelteren Wohnsitze der Albaner auf der Balkanhalbinsel im Lichte der Sprache und Ortsnamen" (Atti e memorie del VII Congresso internationale di scienze onomastiche, Firenze-Pisa 1961 I, pp.246-251) and in various other articles that names of small localities change in the course of years (thus many place names in present-day Albania, in Kosova and elsewhere in the Balkans are Slav),41

but not so those of cities, mountains and rivers:42 Various toponyms prove that at least since Roman times the Albanians have between living as well on the Adriatic and Ionian coasts as in the Western Macedonia - Kosova region, formerly called Dardania, for many geographical names, be they of Illyrian, Ancient Greek, or Roman origin - were transmitted with changes characteristic of Albanian phonetic rules. Such names are, for example, Nish (Naissos), Shkupi (Scupi), Oher,Ochrid (Oricium = Lychnos), Drisht (Drivastum), Shar (Scardus), Shkodra (Scodra), Mati (Amatia), Buna (Barbena), Ulqin (Ulcinium), Lesh (Lissus), Tcham (Thyamis), Ishm (Ismus), Durres (Durachium), Drin (Drillion), Zara (Zadar), Triest (Tregest), Tomor (Tomarus), Shtip (Astibos), Shtiponje (Stoponion).

Villages and cities were destroyed over the course of milleniums, especially with 33 armed invasions; but the names of the most important cities and rivers and mountains have remained intact in the Albanian language since Illyrian time, since they were not destroyed. Listed above I have 20 Illyro-Albanian names, way more than you were able to "find." Perhaps because you're speaking in half-truths, and are more interested in discrediting the Albanians rather than taking an unbiased stance and doing the research yourself?

The cultural link is found in the culture itself. The northern Albanians, especially the mountaineers, still wear the qeleshe to this day; it is like a woolen cap that was worn by their Illyrian ancestors as well.

Throughout their history, the Illyrians/Albanians have been divided into groups that often fought with each other, which ultimately allowed many conquerors to annex their land. The tribal clan structure of the Illyrians has remained intact amongst the Albanians up until the 20th century.

Some Illyrian gods still are represented in Albanian folk culture and stories; for example, Zot, and Perendi, the Illyrian thunder god.
The Sun, being the most important deity, is worshiped and feared by the people of the northern highlands. To this day, they swear on the sun ("Pasha njate rreze diellit" - "I swear on that ray of sunshine". The Sun seems to have been the most powerful god and probably known as the God of Light. When mentioning the deceased, the northern Albanians say "Past Dritë" ("May he/she Have Light"). There are many curses related to the light too, for example, "Mos te errte nata" ("May the dark find you not"), or "Most dalesh ne dritë" ("May you not see the dawn"). Day and Light are closely related in Albanian Language ("Ditë" - "Day", "Dritë" - "Light").
A tradition of the north called the Kuvend, originates during Roman times with the initial refusal of the northern mountain Illyrians to submit to Roman rule. Eventually these Illyrians agreed to accept Roman overlordship, but that was about it. This has survived in northern Albania and during the Ottoman occupation these northern mountain Albanians came together in a "convention" to refuse the Ottoman rule. You can find some information on it in wikipedia, even: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kuvend

The first known occurance of the word Albanoi as the name of an Illyrian tribe in what is now north-central Albania goes back to 130 AD, in a work of Ptolemy. Albanopolis of the Albani is a place located on the map of Ptolemy and also named on an ancient family epitaph at Scupi (near Skopje) , which has been identified with the Zgërdhesh hill-fort near Kruja in northern Albania. Arbanon is likely to be the name of a district - the plain of the Mat has been suggested - rather than a particular place. An indication of movement from higher altitudes in a much earlier period has been detected in the distribution of place-names ending in -esh that appears to derive from the latin -enisis or -esis, between the Shkumbin and the Mat rivers, with a concentration between Elbasan and Kruja.

The term "Albanoi" may have been slowly spread to other Illyrian tribes until its usage became universal among all the Albanian people.

Approximately a millennium later, some Byzantine writers used the words "Albanon" and "Arbanon" to indicate the region of Kruja. Under the Angevine rulers, in the 13th century, the names "Albania" and "Albanenses" indicated the whole country and all the population, as is demonstrated by the works of many ancient Albanian writers such as Budi, Blanco and Bogdani. We first learn of Albanians in their native land as the Arbanites of Arbanon in Anna Comnenas' account (Alexiad 4) of the troubles in that region caused by the Normans during the reign of her father Alexius I Comneus (1081-1118). In the History written in 1079-1080, Byzantine historian Michael Attaliates was first to refer to the Albanoi as having taken part in a revolt against Constantinople in 1043 and to the Arbanitai as subjects of the duke of Dyrrachium. The Italo-Albanians and the Albanian minorities still present in Greece have been known by different names over time: Arbënuer, Arbënor, Arbëneshë, Arbreshë, Arbëreshë.

And, you can't forget music. The Illyrians used an instrument made of wood, lamb skin, and horse hair. It is still used by the northern Albanians today. Here is a picture of the lahute:
[img]http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v696/Gzim/1lahuta.jpg

[philipas]

I don't doubt that modern Albanians trace their ancestry back to the ancient Illyrians and have retained parts of their language and culture from way back then. Other cultures have held onto their ancient customs and traditions. Neighbouring Greece for example, grew strong and expanded because of the expertise of its seafarers in ancient times, a tradition that modern Greece excels at still today, as the world's foremost maritime power. However as far as Albanians being 90% pure, I highly doubt that, as I would with most other ethnic groups, especially Europeans. Albanians mixed with others as indicated by the number of invaders into the country and because so many converted to Islam. It must have been easy to mix with other Muslims, such as the Turks, just as it would have been easier for Christian Slavs, Vlachs and Albanians to mix with Christian Greeks. Remember, identity centres arouind culture more than "blood".

Now, back to topic. When someone is proud of their identity and therefore culture, then they must justify it. Who are other famous Albanians? Mother Teresa was a famous Christian Albanian, how about a famous Muslim Albanian of world renown?

[ARBANITAI]

I wouldn't claim the Illyrians since the Albanians are but 1 tribe! It's like the Navaho claiming a Mowhawk chieftain, even though both are Native Americans they are not the same tribe!!!!
Here are some Historical figure who are Albanian or of Albanian decent.
Monarchs
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_language

Also check out the history of the Albanian language

The Albanian language has been variously attached to Illyrian, Thracian, and Messapian. Only the latter, to a small extent, has left any evidence that may in any way liken it to Albanian. Consider the Messapic words bilia (Alb bijë "daughter"), brendon "deer" (Alb bri, brî "horn", pl. brirë, brinë), hazavathi 'he pours out' (Alb deh "to make drunk"), klaohi 'listen!' (Alb quaj, quej "to call, give a name"), kos (Alb kush "who"), veinan (Alb vehte "self"), venas (Alb uri, û "hunger"), etc. Messapian settlements are known to have existed along the Adriatic in both Italy and Illyria. Indeed, Messapian has left several words in Italian or in neighboring Italo-Roman languages, including manzo "ox" (cf. Alb mëz, mâz "poney"), northern bagola, bagula (cf. Alb bajgë "dung"), dialectal musso "ass" (cf. Alb mushk "mule").

Even the name Albanian is of some dispute. Appearing in the 9th c. in Greek as the Arvanoi, and thereafter under similar names, including obsolete Albanian arbër or arbën, it had been presumed to stem from Vulgar Latin Albanus, from the southern Illyrian tribal name Albanoí. However, others like Orel attach it instead to a slight corruption of Labëri "Laberia", from South Slavic labanĭja, from olbanĭja. The name Tosk, Alb toskë, was borrowed from Venetian tosko "rough, crude", literally "Tuscan".

The trouble of a homeland for the Albanians becomes all the more problematic. Despite Albanian nationalist claims to the contrary, the Albanians almost certainly came from farther north and inland than would suggest the present borders of Albania. First, Albanian has few early Greek borrowings, and the very word for Greek, gërk, was borrowed from South Slavic; cf. Bulg. grŭk, Serb-Croat gr"k. Similarly, the Illyrian coast is not a likely source since Albanian has no inherited nautical or indigenous sea-faring terminology, and has instead supplemented this absence with subsequent borrowing from Latin or Greek or recent metaphorical lexical creations. Also, Albanian is believed to be the source for a number of grammatical and lexical similarities shared by otherwise dissimilar languages including Romanian, Bulgarian, Serbo-Croatian, and to some extent Greek. Also, there is a lack of Proto-Albanian place names in Illyria. Likewise, the word shqa, from Lat Sclavus "Slav" refers only to Bulgarians.

Instead, given the overwhelming amount of shepherding and mountaineering vocabulary as well as the extensive influence of Latin, it is more likely the Albanians come from north of the Jireček line, on the Latin-speaking side, perhaps from the late Roman province of Dardania from the western Balkans. The Northern Albanian Alps are referred to as Bjeshkët e Namena, and this region's name is believed by some to come from Proto-Albanian beškai tâi, giving Alb bjeshkë "mountain", borrowed ultimately from Vulgar Latin pastica "pasture".

Yet, one area in the late Roman province of Praevitana (modern northern Albania) seems to show an area where a primarily shepherding, transhumance population of Illyrians retained their culture. This area was based in the Mat district and the region of high mountains in Northern Albania, as well as in Dukagjin, Mirditë, and the mountains of Drin, from where the population would descend in the summer to the lowlands of western Albania, the Black Drin (Drin i zi) river valley, and into parts of Old Serbia. Indeed, the region's complete lack of Latin place names seems to imply little latinization of any kind and a more likely spot for the origin of Albanian.

The period in which Proto-Albanian and Latin interacted was protracted and drawn out over six centuries, 1st c. AD to 6th or 7th c. AD. This is born out into roughly three layers of borrowings, the largest number belonging to the second or middle layer. The first, with the fewest borrowings, was a time of less important interaction. The final period, probably preceding the Slavic or Germanic invasions, also has a notably smaller amount of borrowings. Each layer is characterized by a different treatment of most vowels, the first layer having several that follow the evolution of Early Proto-Albanian into Albanian; later layers reflect vowel changes indemic to Late Latin and presumably Proto-Romance. Other formative changes include the syncretism of several noun case endings, especially in the plural, as well as the largescale palatalization.


Poutismalaks...

The lands the Albanians have stayed in and are the Albanian lands inhabitted by their Illyrian ancestors for 2500 BC centuries before. There are no records of migrations of Albanians to the area; if the Albanians migrated from the north or somewhere else during the Middle Ages it surely would have been documented, as have been the migrations of groups throughout history, beginning with "barbarians" and including the Slavs which settled northern Illyrian lands.

Ancient Illyria was big country with alot of Tribes, Illyria stretched from the modern slovenia now, and all the dalmatian costal side, through the Albanoi, Dardania and other small tribes till the last molossian tribe.. at least we have facts about all these tribes of Illyrians..

The city of Albanopolis and exactly the Albanoi tribe which streched in the middle modern Albania today gave the name of whole Illyrians as "Albanians" even they were of other Illyrian tribes such as Dardania, Dalmatia Malsia etc.. you must not confuse it, the Illyrians in general took all of them the name Albanians from the out world romans and byzantines, because the "Albanoi" tribe was an Illyrian an big tribe who streched in the middle modern Albania..

The first known occurance of the word Albanoi as the name of an Illyrian tribe in what is now north-central Albania goes back to 130 AD, in a work of Ptolemy. Albanopolis of the Albani is a place located on the map of Ptolemy and also named on an ancient family epitaph at Scupi (near Skopje) , which has been identified with the Zgërdhesh hill-fort near Kruja in northern Albania. Arbanon is likely to be the name of a district - the plain of the Mat has been suggested - rather than a particular place. An indication of movement from higher altitudes in a much earlier period has been detected in the distribution of place-names ending in -esh that appears to derive from the latin -enisis or -esis, between the Shkumbin and the Mat rivers, with a concentration between Elbasan and Kruja.

The term tribe "Albanoi" may have been slowly spread to other Illyrian tribes until its usage became universal among all the Illyrian people.

[philipas]

Well, any world famous Albanian muslims or what? (tapping foot)

[poutismalakas]

Poutismalaks...

The lands the Albanians have stayed in and are the Albanian lands inhabitted by their Illyrian ancestors for 2500 BC centuries before. There are no records of migrations of Albanians to the area; if the Albanians migrated from the north or somewhere else during the Middle Ages it surely would have been documented, as have been the migrations of groups throughout history, beginning with "barbarians" and including the Slavs which settled northern Illyrian lands.

Ancient Illyria was big country with alot of Tribes, Illyria stretched from the modern slovenia now, and all the dalmatian costal side, through the Albanoi, Dardania and other small tribes till the last molossian tribe.. at least we have facts about all these tribes of Illyrians..

The city of Albanopolis and exactly the Albanoi tribe which streched in the middle modern Albania today gave the name of whole Illyrians as "Albanians" even they were of other Illyrian tribes such as Dardania, Dalmatia Malsia etc.. you must not confuse it, the Illyrians in general took all of them the name Albanians from the out world romans and byzantines, because the "Albanoi" tribe was an Illyrian an big tribe who streched in the middle modern Albania..

The first known occurance of the word Albanoi as the name of an Illyrian tribe in what is now north-central Albania goes back to 130 AD, in a work of Ptolemy. Albanopolis of the Albani is a place located on the map of Ptolemy and also named on an ancient family epitaph at Scupi (near Skopje) , which has been identified with the Zgërdhesh hill-fort near Kruja in northern Albania. Arbanon is likely to be the name of a district - the plain of the Mat has been suggested - rather than a particular place. An indication of movement from higher altitudes in a much earlier period has been detected in the distribution of place-names ending in -esh that appears to derive from the latin -enisis or -esis, between the Shkumbin and the Mat rivers, with a concentration between Elbasan and Kruja.

The term tribe "Albanoi" may have been slowly spread to other Illyrian tribes until its usage became universal among all the Illyrian people.
Hey I just found that on wikipedia. I doesn't claim ANYTHING other then that ALL seafaring words are borrowed and that linguist states that that could mean the Albanian language developed in the mountains FIRST. It could mean the Albano tribe could have orginated in the upper part of Albania, Montinegro, and southwestern Serbia! How bad is that!!!! Look up the info I not talking shit. At least I show where I get my info so you can look it up to see if I sent a false statment!!!!!! Also show your links to all this info???

Phillipas Ali Pasha is a famous Albanian muslim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Pasha

[philipas]

I want world famous mate, like Pericles, Euclid or Pythagoras...

[ulster21]

I want world famous mate, like Pericles, Euclid or Pythagoras...

Give up........ there is none.

[poutismalakas]

I want world famous mate, like Pericles, Euclid or Pythagoras...
KLA is world famous for dubious reasons???

[ulster21]

KLA is world famous for dubious reasons???

Correct....... there are plenty of World Famous Albanian gangsters, does that count.

[poutismalakas]

Correct....... there are plenty of World Famous Albanian gangsters, does that count.

I agree that Albanians do have some notoriously negative famous people. But as far as Muslim Albanians who are world famous??? I can't really think of some except for King Farooq of Egypt! Also Ali Pasha was world famous during the first half of the 19th cen.

[ARBANITAI]

Hey I just found that on wikipedia. I doesn't claim ANYTHING other then that ALL seafaring words are borrowed and that linguist states that that could mean the Albanian language developed in the mountains FIRST. It could mean the Albano tribe could have orginated in the upper part of Albania, Montinegro, and southwestern Serbia! How bad is that!!!! Look up the info I not talking shit. At least I show where I get my info so you can look it up to see if I sent a false statment!!!!!! Also show your links to all this info???

Phillipas Ali Pasha is a famous Albanian muslim http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ali_Pasha

Aright aright I see nothing wrong with ur arguement here, imo I just wanted to add something more i thought is important to notice that the "Albanoi" tribe gave the name of whole Illyrians, all these Illyrian tribes together made up what is now "Albanian" But there are more Albanians from other tribes then from "albanoi" tribe, the Kosovar-Albanians are direct desecendant of Dardani tribe, they have nothing to do with "Albanoi" but because the llyrian were called Albanians becomes all of them to be called that, the for example my roots are from the Dalmatia tribe once illyrian tribe now in (croatia)

As My dad used to tell me that their roots belonged to dalmatia tribe around zadar, for centuries ago, but the arriving of the slavs into their tribes, many northern illyrians moved to the southern illyrian tribes, reason to save lifes and slavery from the slavic invasion. Still today many ancient dalmatians lives in the northern Albania territory around modern shkodra region, modern durres which i was borned, and etc..
So the same thing happend to my ancestors who were forced to leave, by that they settled around northern and middle Albania to their middle illyrian tribes..

Although here are the whole Illyrian tribes

This is a list of Illyrian tribes.

Abri
Albanoi
Amantini
Andizetes
Arbanitai (Arbanios)
Ardiaei
Ardiani
Arrianes
Atitani (Atintanes)
Autariatae (Autariates)
Azali
Breuci
Briges
Bylliones
Carni
Catari
Celegeri
Chelidones
Colapiani (Colapani)
Cornacates
Daesitiates
Dalmatae (Delmatae)
Daorsoi
Dardania
Dassaretae (Dassarstae, Dassarenses, Dasaretae)
Daversi
Deraemestae
Deuri
Dindari
Ditiones
Docleatae
Enchelaeae (Enchelleae)
Eravisci
Glintidiones
Grabaei
Histri
Iapydes (Iapodes)
Iasi (Jasi)
Illyrioi
Labeatae (Labeates)
Lopsi
Maezaei
Meslcumani
Naransii
Oseriates (Osseriates)
Pannoni
Parthini
Penestae (Perestae)
Pirustae (Pipustae)
Plearaei
Sardeaties
Scirtari
Scordisci
Seleiitan
Soirtones
Taulanti (Taulani)
Vardaei

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Illyrian_tribes

[ARBANITAI]

I agree that Albanians do have some notoriously negative famous people. But as far as Muslim Albanians who are world famous??? I can't really think of some except for King Farooq of Egypt! Also Ali Pasha was world famous during the first half of the 19th cen.

nonono... wtf are you guys thinking, not only Albanians have criminals, Albanians have less criminals then serbia or bulgaria England or anythor country, so no Albanians is not known for mafia thing, there is no serious Albanian mafia this is just a propaganda btw how can you pay attention on what ulster said we all know he just want troubles...

Every country has criminals... Albania has less!

[ARBANITAI]

Correct....... there are plenty of World Famous Albanian gangsters, does that count.

Yo Mr.Racist ncie to see you back, btw do you have any coment on what you claimed yesterday, it seems like your not answering my proofs and facts, so whats up man, now when ur been prooved wrong in the first and second time, so what is your next step,im really wondering what are you going to claim next time :rolleyes:

oh is that the Mafia thing ? :rolleyes: probably yes :lol:

[ARBANITAI]

more Famous Albanians..

both christian & Muslim

Pal Engjëlli - clergyman
Don Lush Gjergji- Catholic archbishop.
Pope Clement XI (1700-1721)
Sadefqar Mehmeti - chief architect accredited with the design of the Blue Mosque in Istanbul
Mehemet Ali - viceroy of Egypt
Luigj Gurakuqi - Patriot
Joseph DioGuardi - congressman (usa)
Bajram Curri - national hero
Ismail Qemali - nationalist
Simon Augustini - politici
Ate Kola Berishaj - Catholic Priest an
Francesk Anton Santori - writer (b.1819-1894)

[ARBANITAI]

Lasgush Poradeci - poet (1899-1987)
Dhori Qiriazi - poet (b.1993)
Rexhep Qosja - poet and literary critic (1936)
Jeronim de Rada - poet (1814-1903)
Ernesto Sabato - writer
Zef Serembe (aka Giuseppe Serembe) - poet (1844-1901)
Filip Shiroka - poet (1859-1935)
Azem Shkreli - poet (1938-1997)
Zef Skiroi - arberesh poet/publicist/folklorist
Xhevahir Spahiu - poet (b.1945)
Sterjo Spasse - poet (1914-1989)
Luan Starova - writer
Veton Surroi - publicist and politician
Kasëm Trebeshina - writer (b.1926)
Vorea Ujko (aka Domenico Bellizzi) - poet (1918-1989)
Jul Variboba (aka Giulio Variboba) - poet (1742-1788)
Pashko Vasa (aka Wassa Effendi) - poet (1825-1892))
Agim Vinca - poet (b.1947)
Jakov Xoxa - writer (b.1923-1979)
Edison Ypi - journalist, writer (b.1949)
Andon Zako Çajupi - poet and dramatist (1866-1930)
Moikom Zeqo - writer and archaeologist (b.1949)
Visa Zhiti - poet (b.1959)
Hasan Zyko Kamberi - poet

[ulster21]

www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/18/albanians.mob

"FBI: Albanian mobsters 'new Mafia''

"FBI officials said Russian and many other organized crime groups operating in the United States are much more sophisticated and less violent than the Albanians."

[ARBANITAI]

www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/18/albanians.mob

"FBI: Albanian mobsters 'new Mafia''

"FBI officials said Russian and many other organized crime groups operating in the United States are much more sophisticated and less violent than the Albanians."


:lol: PHU PHU :boo: ur really dont make sense ha ??? so just for some couple of Criminals, you want to blaim all Albanians and generalize them all as for bad or criminals huh ??? is that what you want to say. :rolleyes:
:D :D

Man listen here, every country has criminals, all over the world, Russia for example has one of the biggest Mafia today, does that mean all russians are criminals of course NOT, as i said Albanian criminals are nothing comparad to Serbian Mafia, Italian, Polish and Russian Mafia..!

end of story..

[djani]

You guys really do need to knock it off. Why do you come to the Albanian forum just to pick on them. There are famous Albanians such as there are famous Serbs, Greeks, etc. They shouldn't have to prove anything to anyone. They are after all human beings just like me and you. And this has absolutely nothing to do with fudbol, so can we either close this topic or move it to a more appropriate forum.

And Ulster, haven't you heard of the saying if you have NOTHING nice to say don't say anything at all. STAY out of the Albanian forum, if you're going to be racist. Thank you :) .

[ulster21]

mod note: Frist of all, ur not allowed to lie and claim about anyone, which is not true, second ur making no sense and u cant provoke like that, i dont allow this no !!!

[poutismalakas]

nonono... wtf are you guys thinking, not only Albanians have criminals, Albanians have less criminals then serbia or bulgaria England or anythor country, so no Albanians is not known for mafia thing, there is no serious Albanian mafia this is just a propaganda btw how can you pay attention on what ulster said we all know he just want troubles...

Every country has criminals... Albania has less!
you seriously have a chip on your shoulder!!!! If you READ my post I said "SOME" NOT ALL!!!! Also your being blind there is a presence of ethnic Albanian organized crime in NY also there is Russian, and Ukranian organized gangs there are growing in presence and power in NY those are FACTS!!!! IT doesn't mean that EVERY Albanian is a criminal!!! I NEVER SAID THAT

Also Philipas was saying he wants "World famous Albanian Muslim" So I said that King Farooq of Egypt was/is World famous Muslim Albanian!

[GentiaNi]

Ulster you are a piece of Shit.. > Racist

[ulster21]

Ulster you are a piece of Shit.. > Racist

That really hurts coming from a wannabe thug/rapper like you.

[ARBANITAI]

That really hurts coming from a wannabe thug/rapper like you.

Ulster let me ask you something what are you doing here yet,
if you think you cant behave ur self with ur racist ide then why dont you just go away !!!

[ARBANITAI]

you seriously have a chip on your shoulder!!!! If you READ my post I said "SOME" NOT ALL!!!! Also your being blind there is a presence of ethnic Albanian organized crime in NY also there is Russian, and Ukranian organized gangs there are growing in presence and power in NY those are FACTS!!!! IT doesn't mean that EVERY Albanian is a criminal!!! I NEVER SAID THAT

Also Philipas was saying he wants "World famous Albanian Muslim" So I said that King Farooq of Egypt was/is World famous Muslim Albanian!

I didnt mean you said that, I was more referring to ulster, who wants to generalize criminals with whole inoccent ppl, Also im not beeing blind OK i know what i talk about, I said there is no "Albanian mafia" organized crimes in Albania, And i dont know what is out of Albania, Personally i never heard of an such big Albanian criminals in new york exactly ??!! more of it is just a propaganda, which i dont give a shit what racist ppl claim..

[philipas]

You guys really do need to knock it off. Why do you come to the Albanian forum just to pick on them. There are famous Albanians such as there are famous Serbs, Greeks, etc. They shouldn't have to prove anything to anyone. They are after all human beings just like me and you. And this has absolutely nothing to do with fudbol, so can we either close this topic or move it to a more appropriate forum. Fair enough. I wanted to know something after an Albanian forumer in another thread accused Greeks of 'taking' the glory of all the famous Balkan people. I wanted to see who these 'famous people' are.

Anyway, I'm impressed that one of them was the designer of the Blue Mosque in Istanbul and John Belushi rocks.

I must admit in a way I was trying to stop this nationalist BS, with a 'let's talk it out' approach and no doubt it can seem like instigating or picking. Albanians are no lesser or greater than any other people.

[GentiaNi]

Well i live in new york and i never heard of an "Albanian Mafia" here, there might be a few criminals Albanians here as like anyone but not lik you say, btw the mafia who run usa and new york are russians or russian mafia the kings of mafia..

plz dont belive on propaganda..

i am Albanian from us and i know very well what we Albanians do here, Albanians have no time with mafia and criminal stuff, they are opposite of what some ignorants claim, they work and work for them selfes and their families, thats shows very good that many emigrant Albanians in US Works as cabs, agents and anti-criminals, the oposite of what ya claim! :sad:

[Saraj Fanático]

The most famous Albanian is Eliza Dusku.

[ulster21]

The most famous Albanian is Eliza Dusku.

She is only half-albanian....... She is hott as hell though.

[poutismalakas]

Well i live in new york and i never heard of an "Albanian Mafia" here, there might be a few criminals Albanians here as like anyone but not lik you say, btw the mafia who run usa and new york are russians or russian mafia the kings of mafia..

plz dont belive on propaganda..

i am Albanian from us and i know very well what we Albanians do here, Albanians have no time with mafia and criminal stuff, they are opposite of what some ignorants claim, they work and work for them selfes and their families, thats shows very good that many emigrant Albanians in US Works as cabs, agents and anti-criminals, the oposite of what ya claim! :sad:
Read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudaj_Organization

I mostly Albanian Gang with Greek, Italian, and Arab members also below shows some info in regards to organized crime gangs that Albanian. I NOT trying to provoke just educate you guys on this subject

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Organized_Crime

[ARBANITAI]

Read this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudaj_Organization

I mostly Albanian Gang with Greek, Italian, and Arab members also below shows some info in regards to organized crime gangs that Albanian. I NOT trying to provoke just educate you guys on this subject

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albanian_Organized_Crime

poutis all countries has their own criminals and jerks, Btw this guy Alex Rudaj is an ethnic Albanian from Montenegro, all i want to say is that Albanians contributed alot for the civilizied world for centuries, and because of some jerks like Alex Rudaj cannot change the good image of Albanians in general..
Same as with greeks, because everyone has criminals im sure u find criminal greeks in usa europe etc, but that doesnt mean all greeks are criminals right?!

:focus:

[ulster21]

Who is the most famous Albanian footballer?

[ARBANITAI]

Who is the most famous Albanian footballer?

Panajot Pano was..

[ARBANITAI]

She is only half-albanian....... She is hott as hell though.

yes she has danish mom and Albanian dad..:smoking:

[ulster21]

Panajot Pano was..

Ok, yea he played in the 60's, wasn't he half-greek?. Do any Albanian players today play on top clubs in Europe?

[Sandro1]

This is SAMI Frasheri, a famous figure of Albanians

http://www.members.tripod.com/petronini/portrete/sfrasheri.jpg
autor of "Shqiperia c´ishte cesht dhe cdo te jet"

Naim Frasheri also a very famous Albanian poet

http://www.albmuzika.com/img/naim_frasheri_vogel.jpg

The famous Noli
http://www.kosovaelire.com/portrete/F.Noli/f.noli.jpg

[benfica64]

Lasgush Poradeci - poet (1899-1987)
Dhori Qiriazi - poet (b.1993)
Rexhep Qosja - poet and literary critic (1936)
Jeronim de Rada - poet (1814-1903)
Ernesto Sabato - writer
Zef Serembe (aka Giuseppe Serembe) - poet (1844-1901)
Filip Shiroka - poet (1859-1935)
Azem Shkreli - poet (1938-1997)
Zef Skiroi - arberesh poet/publicist/folklorist
Xhevahir Spahiu - poet (b.1945)
Sterjo Spasse - poet (1914-1989)
Luan Starova - writer
Veton Surroi - publicist and politician
Kasëm Trebeshina - writer (b.1926)
Vorea Ujko (aka Domenico Bellizzi) - poet (1918-1989)
Jul Variboba (aka Giulio Variboba) - poet (1742-1788)
Pashko Vasa (aka Wassa Effendi) - poet (1825-1892))
Agim Vinca - poet (b.1947)
Jakov Xoxa - writer (b.1923-1979)
Edison Ypi - journalist, writer (b.1949)
Andon Zako Çajupi - poet and dramatist (1866-1930)
Moikom Zeqo - writer and archaeologist (b.1949)
Visa Zhiti - poet (b.1959)
Hasan Zyko Kamberi - poet

yes there where plenty of famous Albanians, has you have showed. Philipas tapping feet!! theres your proof. NOw what???? what happens now?? you eat your words? but what else can you do.

[benfica64]

www.cnn.com/2004/LAW/08/18/albanians.mob

"FBI: Albanian mobsters 'new Mafia''

"FBI officials said Russian and many other organized crime groups operating in the United States are much more sophisticated and less violent than the Albanians." dude be real your coming from Belfast have the nerve to make claim about Albanian gangsters??? the blood thirsty IRA?? not too mention many local hoods???

[philipas]

poutis all countries has their own criminals and jerks, Btw this guy Alex Rudaj is an ethnic Albanian from Montenegro, all i want to say is that Albanians contributed alot for the civilizied world for centuries, and because of some jerks like Alex Rudaj cannot change the good image of Albanians in general..
Same as with greeks, because everyone has criminals im sure u find criminal greeks in usa europe etc, but that doesnt mean all greeks are criminals right?!

:focus: Albanians are starting to be known for organised crime in Australia too unfortunately, and yes there are Greek criminals in New York and not surprising in Astoria, which is a historically Greek neighbourhood in NYC, but not a 'mafia style' organisation and Greeks have not made headlines as gangsters. Greeks in America are known for being highly educated and upwardly mobile. As far as I've read, the Albanians in New York have a very bad reputation for criminal activity. :sad:

As far as your comments that Albanians have contributed a lot to civilisation, can you please elaborate and tell me exactly what?

[philipas]

yes there where plenty of famous Albanians, has you have showed. Philipas tapping feet!! theres your proof. NOw what???? what happens now?? you eat your words? but what else can you do. I said all peoples have famous members. I want world famous. :mad2:

[Panathinaikos2]

editted....

[Panathinaikos2]

Ok, yea he played in the 60's, wasn't he half-greek?. Do any Albanian players today play on top clubs in Europe?I believe he is half Geek since he has a Greek name.

[benfica64]

I said all peoples have famous members. I want world famous. :mad2: sandro listed world famous albanians.

[Panathinaikos2]

sandro listed world famous albanians.Most of the Albanians in that list were famouse but I doubt they were world famouse.

[Sandro1]

Albanians are starting to be known for organised crime in Australia too unfortunately, and yes there are Greek criminals in New York and not surprising in Astoria, which is a historically Greek neighbourhood in NYC, but not a 'mafia style' organisation and Greeks have not made headlines as gangsters. Greeks in America are known for being highly educated and upwardly mobile. As far as I've read, the Albanians in New York have a very bad reputation for criminal activity. :sad:

As far as your comments that Albanians have contributed a lot to civilisation, can you please elaborate and tell me exactly what?

No the Albanians in us are neither made headlines as Gangsters, you guys really belive that troll ulster21 ???????????

I dont want to hear more from you guys telling me about mafia crap and claims, because its enough, so the greeks are angles ??? lol
thats why guys just shut it allready and dont listen to ulster crap stories, because i Live in Us Gentiani does and we know better then ya how the situation is here and who is Mafia, as I sai there is no "Albanian Mafia"
there might be criminals but not a Mafia!!!

Albanian Contribution to humanity

Albanians have played a prominent role in the development of the arts and sciences as well as in religion and sport. Prominent individuals have included the defender of Europe during the mid-15th century Skenderbeg, the writer Ismail Kadare, the painter Ibrahim Kodra, the composer Simon Gjoni, the Nobel Prize winner Ferid Murad, the Olympic athlete Klodiana Shala, the Roman Catholic missionary Mother Teresa and Pope Clement XI.Other well known individuals include the prime minister of the Ottoman Empire Ferhat Pasha and Mehemet Ali the viceroy of Egypt. John Belushi and his brother Jim Belushi were of Albanian parents who immigrated in the USA after WWII. Also the American actress Eliza Dushku is born of an Albanian father and a Danish mother.

[Sandro1]

Most of the Albanians in that list were famouse but I doubt they were world famouse.

check out the list of the most 50 famous Albanians in previous posts they are all World Famous !

[Sandro1]

I said all peoples have famous members. I want world famous. :mad2:

Check out the list of these most 50 famous Albanians in previous posts as they are world famous :mad2:

[Sandro1]

dude be real your coming from Belfast have the nerve to make claim about Albanian gangsters??? the blood thirsty IRA?? not too mention many local hoods???

Bro just dont pay attention to Ulster21, we all know he is just a *** but watever i dont understand how he claim "Albanian Mafia" when he has the biggest organized crime band mafia "IRA" in his homeland Eirland!!!!!!!!!!!

[Sandro1]

The Albanians in USA

The list of Famous Albanian-Americans

Avni Abazi - actor/film producer[1]
James Belushi - actor[2]
John Belushi - actor[3]
Elona Bojaxhi - actress[4]
Joseph J. DioGuardi - congressman[5]
Tony Dovolani - professional dancer[6]
Eliza Dushku (1980 - ) actress, has appeared in several Hollywood films (i.e. Bring It On and Wrong Turn)[7]
Gjevalin Gegaj - businessman/activist[8]
Bill Kovach - journalist/editor[9]
Donald Lambro - journalist[10]
Masiela Lusha - actress[11]
Gjon Mili - photographer[12]
Inva Mula-Tchako - soprano[13]
Ferid Murad - Nobel Prize winner[14]
Regis Philbin 1/2 Irish & 1/2 Albanian [ Arbëreshë ][17] click to other, and look for Eliza and Regis
George Tenet - he is believed to be of Albanian descent, from Korca, Albania.

[ulster21]

Bro just dont pay attention to Ulster21, we all know he is just a *** but watever i dont understand how he claim "Albanian Mafia" when he has the biggest organized crime band mafia "IRA" in his homeland Eirland!!!!!!!!!!!

Very true mate. The IRA is a organized criminal organization. They are also Irish Catholic. I am Protestant.

[poutismalakas]

sandro listed world famous albanians.
Do you happen to know any of those people on that list?? And PLEASE BE HONEST

The ONLY WORLD famous Albanians I've heard of are the Belushi brothers, Mother Theresa, Shanderberg. Also Regis is not know to be 1/2 Albanian you have to look it up


Also Sandro1
George Tenet CLAIMS' Greek Heritage and has a Greek wife!!!!!!!!!! You can't REALLY claim someone who doesn't claim Albanian decent!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tenet
Tenet, the son of Greek immigrants, was raised in Little Neck, Queens, attended Public School 94, Middle School 67, and Cardozo High School (as a classmate of Ron Jeremy), and worked in his family's diner, later renamed the Scobee diner, as a busboy.[1] Tenet holds a Bachelor's degree from the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and a Master's degree from the School of International Affairs at Columbia University. He was a staffer to former Senator David Boren of Oklahoma. He also was the former research Director of AHEPA (American Hellenic Institute) from 1978 to 1979.[2]

He is married to A. Stephanie Glakas-Tenet. They have a son, John Michael. He currently teaches at Georgetown University, his alma mater. His cousin is Kristi Lauren Glakas, Miss Virginia 2005.

[poutismalakas]

Ferid Murad the man who's help many a impotent men get it up again!!!!!

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Dr. Ferid MuradFerid Murad (born September 14, 1936) is an American physician and pharmacologist, and a co-winner of the 1998 Nobel Prize in Physiology or Medicine. He was born in Whiting, Indiana to John Murad (born Xhabir Murat Ejupi), an Albanian and Henrietta Bowman, an American. He received his MD and pharmacology Ph.D. from Case Western Reserve University in 1965. He then joined the University of Virginia, where he was made professor in 1970, before moving to Stanford in 1981.

Murad's key work was in showing that nitroglycerin and related drugs worked by releasing nitric oxide into the body, with the gas somehow acting as a signalling molecule in the cardiovascular system, making blood vessels dilate. The missing steps in the signalling process were filled in by Robert F. Furchgott and Louis J. Ignarro, for which the three shared the 1998 Nobel Prize (and for which Murad and Furchgott received the Albert Lasker Award for Basic Medical Research in 1996). There was some criticism, however, of the Nobel committee's decision not to award the prize to Salvador Moncada, who had independently reached the same results as Ignarro.

One application of the mechanism for controlling blood vessels discovered by Murad et al. was in the development of the male erectile dysfunction drug Viagra.

Murad is now a faculty researcher at University of Texas Health Science Center at Houston.


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/6/6c/Murad.gif

[philipas]

OK, forget world famous Albanians, because other than Mother Teresa, others and myself are not so convinced.

Lets post a famous 'icon' of Albania now. A picture, place, food, anything that people automatically relate to Albania.

Eg.

Big Ben, fish'n'chips - England
Acropolis, gyros - Greece
Coloseum, pizza - Italy
Eifel Tower, croissants - France
Hagia Sofia, turkish delight - Turkey
Dubrovnik, burek - Croatia
Rocky Mountains, maple syrup - Canada
Great Wall, fried rice - Chinese
Mt Fuji, sushi - Japan
Sydney Opera House, meat pie - Australia
etc etc etc

Now give me the Albanian equivalent. :)

[benfica64]

Bro just dont pay attention to Ulster21, we all know he is just a *** but watever i dont understand how he claim "Albanian Mafia" when he has the biggest organized crime band mafia "IRA" in his homeland Eirland!!!!!!!!!!! I know thats why iam surprised that guy actually has the nerve to go and bad mouth albanians pretty much claiming they are nothing but a bunch of criminals. I mean thats Insulting to say the least. What Country in the bloody World dosent have scum and dirt of society?? but to claim the " people " as nothing but criminals is a very sad statment.

[benfica64]

Do you happen to know any of those people on that list?? And PLEASE BE HONEST

The ONLY WORLD famous Albanians I've heard of are the Belushi brothers, Mother Theresa, Shanderberg. Also Regis is not know to be 1/2 Albanian you have to look it up


Also Sandro1
George Tenet CLAIMS' Greek Heritage and has a Greek wife!!!!!!!!!! You can't REALLY claim someone who doesn't claim Albanian decent!


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Tenet
Tenet, the son of Greek immigrants, was raised in Little Neck, Queens, attended Public School 94, Middle School 67, and Cardozo High School (as a classmate of Ron Jeremy), and worked in his family's diner, later renamed the Scobee diner, as a busboy.[1] Tenet holds a Bachelor's degree from the School of Foreign Service at Georgetown University and a Master's degree from the School of International Affairs at Columbia University. He was a staffer to former Senator David Boren of Oklahoma. He also was the former research Director of AHEPA (American Hellenic Institute) from 1978 to 1979.[2]

He is married to A. Stephanie Glakas-Tenet. They have a son, John Michael. He currently teaches at Georgetown University, his alma mater. His cousin is Kristi Lauren Glakas, Miss Virginia 2005.I dont know alot of those albanians but what does that mean? That dosent say they are not famous, lets be realistic how many people outside of Greeks and even alot of Greeks themself have no clue to the vast majority of famous Greeks. the obvious ones in the philosophy world and such but there is many so called famous Greeks thatpeople have no clue about including yourself if you didnt go to Wiki and other resource sites, prior to doing so you iam sure didnt know alot of famous greeks even if u did vast majority of the world dont. See it goes both way. Alot of people dont know albanians and people dont all Know Greeks.

[ulster21]

I know thats why iam surprised that guy actually has the nerve to go and bad mouth albanians pretty much claiming they are nothing but a bunch of criminals. I mean thats Insulting to say the least. What Country in the bloody World dosent have scum and dirt of society?? but to claim the " people " as nothing but criminals is a very sad statment.

Please direct me to the post where I said this!!

[poutismalakas]

I dont know alot of those albanians but what does that mean? That dosent say they are not famous, lets be realistic how many people outside of Greeks and even alot of Greeks themself have no clue to the vast majority of famous Greeks. the obvious ones in the philosophy world and such but there is many so called famous Greeks thatpeople have no clue about including yourself if you didnt go to Wiki and other resource sites, prior to doing so you iam sure didnt know alot of famous greeks even if u did vast majority of the world dont. See it goes both way. Alot of people dont know albanians and people dont all Know Greeks.
The world knows more famous Greeks even if they are mostly Ancient Greeks. Actually I have a BS in History and have made it a point to know the historical figures of Greece, Ancient, Byzantine, and Early modern to certain 20th cen people! And I did this before I discovered wikipedia. Borders and Amazon.com are beautiful places to buy books along with used books stores!;)

[Sandro1]

The world knows more famous Greeks even if they are mostly Ancient Greeks. Actually I have a BS in History and have made it a point to know the historical figures of Greece, Ancient, Byzantine, and Early modern to certain 20th cen people! And I did this before I discovered wikipedia. Borders and Amazon.com are beautiful places to buy books along with used books stores!;)

The world knows as much as famous Albanians too, if we have to include the ancient Illyrians as well... the ancestors of modern Albanians :)

The list of famous ancient Albanians..

Jerome - the translator of the Bible from Greek and Hebrew into Latin.
Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino.
Baraliris - Illyrian leader of the Molosi tribe.
Audata - Illyrian women, once wife of Philip II.
Bircenna - daughter of Bardylis.
Caravantius - brother of King Gentius.
Cynane - daughter of Audata and Philip II, half-sister of Alexander the Great.
Flavianus - governor of Egypt.
Marcellinus Comes - an obscure 6th-century chronicler.
Celer - Magister Officiorum (The Master of Offices).
Peter Patricus - Byzantine historian of 6th century.
Plator - Brother of King Gentius.
Teuticus - Illyrian noble, who was sent to Rome as an ambassador by King Gentius.
Pithon - Governor of Greater Media.
Taurus Volusianus
Flava Valeria Constantia - daughter of Constantius Chlorus
Flava Macima Constantia - daughter of Constantius II

Byzantine Emperors of Illyrian ancestry

Justin I
Justinian I
Anastasius I


Roman Emperors of Illyrian Ancestry

Decius
Claudius II "Gothicus"
Quintillus
Aurelian
Tacitus
Florianus Pius
Probus
Carus
Numerian
Maximianus "Herculius"
Septimius Severus
Maximinus "Daia"
Licinius I
Jovian
Valentinianus I
Valens
Gratian
Valentinianus II
Constantius III
Marcianus
Hostilianus
Gallienus

So honestly I think we had enough famous Albanians through History!

[Sandro1]

OK, forget world famous Albanians, because other than Mother Teresa, others and myself are not so convinced.


My friend be realistic because world knows alot of famous Albanians through ancient time and til now, and you cant ignore it, Dont tell me the world doesnt know Jerome the "translator of the bible" Priest Petrus - Builder of the church of Rome: Santa Sabina all'Aventino.
the Illyrian emperors and Byzantine emperors of Illyrian Ancestry or the Roman emperors of Illyrian ancestry are all WORLD FAMOSUED!

[Sandro1]

A short Biography of Jerome

Jerome was born at Stridon, on the border between Pannonia and Dalmatia Illyria (modern bosna herzegovina) in the second quarter of the fourth century.

Jerome was born to Christian parents, but was not baptized until about 360, when he had gone to Rome with his friend Bonosus to pursue his rhetorical and philosophical studies. Here he studied under Aelius Donatus, a skillful compiler of language techniques which Donatus called "grammar." Jerome also learned Koine Greek, but yet had no thought of studying the Greek Fathers, or any Christian writings.

Anastasius I (emperor) of Illyrian ancestry

Flavius Anastasius or Anastasius I (c. 430–July 9, 518) was Byzantine emperor from 11 April 491 until his death. He was born at "Dyrrhachium" modern (Durres - Albania) not later than 430.

At the time of the death of Zeno (491), Anastasius, a palace official (silentiarius), held a very high character, and was raised to the throne of the Roman empire of the East, through the choice of Ariadne, Zeno's widow, who married him shortly after his accession. His reign, though afterwards disturbed by foreign and internecine wars and religious distractions, commenced auspiciously. He gained the popular favour by a judicious remission of taxation, and displayed great vigour and energy in administering the affairs of the empire.

[philipas]

OK, no doubt there are many famous Albanians, but where are these so-called Albanians that Greeks have claimed as their own?

As you can see Greeks have had a big influence on world civilisation, don't you forget it or even try to compare Albanians, Illyrians or whatever to them. Can't compare, so stop acting like you're soooooo special and Greeks are so insignificant. The world celebrates Greek history and culture and is hardly aware of Albania's. :mad2:

End of Story (unless you carry on)

:closed:

[Sandro1]

Well i really dont care anymore if there are Greek claims toward famous Albanians, (the arvanites weren´t they claimed as greeks) ?
however i dont care!

WOW so it seem you are trying to say that Greeks are the ones who are special to all other ppl in the world,well dont forget that not only greeks had influence on world civilization, the illyrians had too and romans and other nations as well, you cannot ignore them, and i dont have to compare with the greeks or anyone, Im proud of my own people and ancestors as they did alot enough for the world civilization, so i think you stop acting like only greeks had influence on world civilisation, you must learn alot more of Illyrian civilization and its influence in the world...

:closed:

[Sandro1]

The Illyrian civilization


The fact that has been touched on in this Compton Encyclopedia article is very monumental in the attributes of Albanians in the classical world. The Albanians as the descendants of the Illyrian race brings to light many other historical and cultural achievements.

First of all, just the fact that Albanian roots go back to so long a time, more then 2000 years, and their heritage still stands strong is historical in itself. This depicts the Albanian people as a major contributor to the life in Antiquity, for they were one of the cultures that made up this world.

The first indications of Illyrian civilisation go back to the end of the third millennium BC, ceramic articles being the most common. First there are vases with two handles rising higher than the neck. During the Bronze Age, burials gained in solemnity, and the first tumuli appeared, the tombs often embellished with a rich funeral dressing. The popularity of tools, armour and ornaments made of bronze brought certain increase to metallurgy. Nature had a hand in this as the country was fairly rich in minerals. Social differences became accentuated, a wealthy social class and a tribal aristocracy emerged in Illyrian society. On the Maliq site among other discoveries were bronze knifes and a bronze scythe belonging to the Aegean civilization of the sixteenth century BC. We have very cause to believe that these objects, as well as a number of knifes of Mycenaean origin discovered in the tumuli at Pazhok and Vajza, reached southern Illyria via exchanges with Greece.

At the end of the Bronze Age, and especially in the first part of the Iron Age, which is chronological with the first millennium BC, the Illyrians embarked on a new stage of their economic ,social and cultural growth. The ancient cities ,the fortified tribal centers and places of refuge for the surrounding population in case of war, were generally found on the tops of the hills or mountings, or along valleys, or beside roads where they held a dominant position. These cities were to protected by thick walls, constructed with huge, rough or slightly hewn stones. These early fortresses, which varied by their size and according to the shape of the enclosure, had no towers yet and their gates were narrow. The really old fortress of Gaitan (in Shkodra region in northern Albania) is an excellent example.

The funeral trappings discovered in the two burial necropolis at Mati especially and at Kuci i Zi (In the Korce Region) are particularly important for the information they give of Illyrian civilization in the first part of Iron Age.

A large quantity of iron armors has been retrieved-swords, daggers, kandjars, knives. Armor used in self-defense by wealthy soldiers-helmets, daggers, and bronze leg-shields are plentiful. The jewels found in abundance in the woman's tombs are also made of bronze: fibulae, buttons, pendants on chains, bracelets, pins and diadems .The arms and ornaments found in the tombs were made by high-reputed master iron-workers of the Pirustae tribe, who lived in this rich mining region. From the first part of the Iron Age the civilization in southern Illyria had its own physical features, which distinguished it from neighboring civilizations.

Very little in known about the language of Illyrians. We still have not found inscriptions or documents written in this language .There are only a few rare inscription in a Messapian dialect which was spoken in southern Italy. The only evidence of ancient Illyrian are a few names or places or people or a few isolated words ,accompanied by their meaning, reported by Ancient writers. According to linguists, the Illyrian language belonged to the Indo-European group. Illyrian was a language in common use, while Greek and Latin, the latter in particular, were only used as commercial, administrative and epigraphic languages. In certain cases, to complete the Latin alphabet, the Illyrians used their own characters, apparently to reproduce the sounds which were peculiar to their own language.

Illyria was a vast country; so its regions naturally presented various geographic and climatic conditions which determined the development of various sectors of economy activity. In areas rich in minerals, jobs associated with the extraction of treatment of metals grew in number.

The warm, coastal regions, as Strabo wrote, were covered in vineyards and olive groves. The Illyrians from the southern regions were famous animal breeders, and their oxen and sheep were admired even outside Illyria. According to ancient writers Illyrians were characterized by their honesty and hospitality. Among others, Demosthenes, Diodorus of Sicily and Nicolaus of Damas tell us that the Illyrians held nothing dearer than liberty and that they never let their wounded fall into the hands of the enemy-they were ready to sacrifice their lives to defend their friends and those near to them. These authors praised their virtues as soldiers.

Not much is known about Illyrian religion during the first part of the Iron Age.

Like all primitive people, they adored everything which seemed extraordinary in nature, particularly the sun. The symbol of the sun -an empty or solid circle- is often found on pieces of Illyrian craftsmanship. Since the Illyrians had no real sculpture when their race began, and since the functions of a large number of their divinities were very similar to those of the Greek deities, they gave their gods the physiognomy and attributes of the corresponding Greek gods. So the god of the waters and forest -the Thana of the northern Illyrian regions- was linked to the Greek Artemis then later to the Roman Diana.

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The same occurred with the main god of Parthinians who figures in effigy form on the bronze coin of Dyrrachium (today Durres) and Shkodra; the Greek colonists gave him the name of Zeus, with whom he shared similar characteristic and functions. But for the Illyrians these divines were the Diana of the Candavia tribe and the Jupiter of the Parthinians, and they should not of course be confused with the Roman Jupiter and Diana. Apart from these similarities, inscriptions have revealed the names of a large number of Illyrian gods. Besides Medaure, god of war, we also find Bonus, god of spring and woods, Latra, Sentona, Vidosa and many others.
http://www.illyrians.org/history3.html

[PAO_HELLAS]

Which game are these screenshots from?

[Sandro1]

The screenshots are from the Ancient Illyria civilization movie/Pc games

[philipas]

WOW so it seem you are trying to say that Greeks are the ones who are special to all other ppl in the world,well dont forget that not only greeks had influence on world civilization, the illyrians had too and romans and other nations as well, you cannot ignore them, and i dont have to compare with the greeks or anyone, Im proud of my own people and ancestors as they did alot enough for the world civilization, so i think you stop acting like only greeks had influence on world civilisation, you must learn alot more of Illyrian civilization and its influence in the world...

:closed: Don't make things up. I didn't say Greeks are the only ones who contributed to this world. I said compared to the Albanians...:lol: ...well you can't compare. OK Sandy? :)

[Sandro1]

Don't make things up. I didn't say Greeks are the only ones who contributed to this world. I said compared to the Albanians...:lol: ...well you can't compare. OK Sandy? :)


Hahahaha J-a-l-o-u-s-y..... :bump2:

Dream on:lol:

[philipas]

Jealous? :faint2: Of What?

OK, didn't want to get to this, but if you wanna compare let's do it.

Mod note: sorry philipas but no i dont think another comparing thing around, not because i dont like it, but it usually end up with flamewars and i know this through my experience here...

BTW greece has acropolis, but Albania has different exciting places to visit as well, so i dont see what is to argue here ??!

back to topic :)

[poutismalakas]

Is thread about Illyrians, and Greeks or Modern Albanians!!! My adtitude is that thread may have ran it's course because we are starting argue AGAIN?

[ARBANITAI]

Is thread about Illyrians, and Greeks or Modern Albanians!!! My adtitude is that thread may have ran it's course because we are starting argue AGAIN?

Yes thats what im fearing too, another flamewar, I let this thread open because it is about "famous Albanians" and only that, anything like "comparing" or anything like that, would easily end up with another conflict !

[philipas]

I agree. Anyway, I don't think Greeks are any better than Albanians or any other people, just responding to those who seek to put down Greeks for no reason.

:closed:

[ulster21]

:closed:

Agreed, this thread has run its course.

[benfica64]

Please direct me to the post where I said this!! come on dude what you think no one is capable of reading between the lines.

[benfica64]

Well i really dont care anymore if there are Greek claims toward famous Albanians, (the arvanites weren´t they claimed as greeks) ?
however i dont care!

WOW so it seem you are trying to say that Greeks are the ones who are special to all other ppl in the world,well dont forget that not only greeks had influence on world civilization, the illyrians had too and romans and other nations as well, you cannot ignore them, and i dont have to compare with the greeks or anyone, Im proud of my own people and ancestors as they did alot enough for the world civilization, so i think you stop acting like only greeks had influence on world civilisation, you must learn alot more of Illyrian civilization and its influence in the world...

:closed: Bro Philipas is very ignorant of the facts. I mean time and time Again you have given without shadow of doubt proof of famous Albanians and Also the importance the Albanian Culture and People have so fo