The Mexicans Abroad

[dannymex]

Well today he was to play for Lazio! But at the last minute he was not included in the games roster!

haha damn he was close.

[manuelleon]

Vela Out For Upcoming Qualifiers
http://images.mirror.co.uk/upl/m4/mar2009/0/2/carlos-vela-celebrates-his-goal-565715506.jpg
Carlos Vela was ruled out for the next month with an ankle injury, which will keep him out of Mexico's upcoming World Cup qualifiers.


Carlos Vela will not play a role in Mexico's crucial World Cup qualifiers at Costa Rica and at home against Honduras in early September.

Vela has been ruled out for the next month due to an ankle injury, the Mexican Football Federation announced Sunday.

Vela's club Arsenal performed a magnetic imaging resolution (MRI) exam and results revealed that Vela would need a month of rest to recover.

"He came back injured," Arsenal manager Arsene Wenger said. "This is one of the problems with international football."

The FMF said in a press release that Vela's injury grew worse upon his return to England, and that the FMF had been in close contact with Vela.

"Upon returning to Arsenal, he injured himself and underwent some initial exams, which resulted in immobilization of his ankle. That led to more studies to determine the severity of the injury," the release read.

Against the United States on Aug. 12, Vela came off the bench early in the second half. In the Gold Cup final, Vela did the same but had more of an impact as he scored a goal in a 5-0 rout over the Americans.

Goal.com

[manuelleon]

Three Changes In Mexico's World Cup Qualifying Squad
Injured players Carlos Vela and Rafael Marquez are out while Javier Aguirre opts for three talented youngsters in their place.


http://mexico.worldcupblog.org/files/2008/06/mexico_football_federation.gif

Mexico released the list of players who will try and put El Tri back in a top-three spot in World Cup qualifying.

Of the players manager Javier Aguirre initially called up to face the United States, only three changes were made. Aguirre left off Carlos Vela and Rafael Marquez due to injury and also dropped Chivas' Alberto "Venado" Medina.

The new faces on the roster are Nestor Calderon of Toluca, Pablo Barrera of Pumas and Hector Moreno of Dutch side AZ Alkmaar.

Mexico will play at Costa Rica on Sept. 5 and will host Honduras on Sept. 9. Costa Rica leads the Hexagonal with 12 points while Honduras and the United States are even with 10. Mexico trail the trio as El Tri have nine points.

Calderon, 20, forced his way on the squad as he has been one of Toluca's top players this season. Calderon has scored five goals in five games as Toluca are 4-1 at the start of the Apertura 2009 season. Calderon has made up for teammate Hector Raul Mancilla's absence.

Meanwhile, Pumas' Pablo Barrera is back with the team. Barrera was a member of the title-winning Gold Cup squad but saw his play fall off towards the end of the tournament. Barrera also worked his way back onto the national team despite his club's form. Pumas are 0-5 in league this season.

Moreno, meanwhile, won an Eredivisie title with AZ Alkmaar. Moreno has played in three of AZ Alkmaar's games this season. He sat out a season-opening 3-2 loss to Heracles Almelo but has played in the rest of the club's matches. With Moreno in the lineup, AZ Alkmaar has not allowed a goal in three games, all wins.

Highlighting the roster are European-based players such as Carlos Salcido (PSV), Andres Guardado (Deportivo la Coruña) and Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham) as well as domestic players Miguel Sabah (Morelia), Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul) and Jonny Magallon (Chivas) as well as Cuauhtemoc Blanco of Chicago and Guillermo Franco, who is still without a club

Goalkeepers:
Guillermo Ochoa (America), Jesus Corona (Cruz Azul).

Defenders:
Jose Antonio "Gringo" Castro (Tigres), Efrain Juarez (Pumas), Jonny Magallon (Chivas), Aaron Galindo (Chivas), Ricardo Osorio (Stuttgart), Hector Moreno (AZ Alkmaar), Carlos Salcido (PSV Eindhoven), Oscar Rojas (America).

Midfielders:
Israel Castro (Pumas), Gerardo Torrado (Cruz Azul), Andres Guardado (Deportivo la Coruña), Pablo Barrera (Pumas).

Forwards:
Nestor Calderon (Toluca), Cuauhtemoc Blanco (Chicago), Miguel Sabah (Morelia), Guillermo Franco (unattached), Nery Castillo (Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk), Giovani Dos Santos (Tottenham).

[rojinegro13]

good to see Moreno finally called up! it'll be interesting to see if calderon gets any playing time, I doubt he will. I also would of like to see the other kid from chivas get a shot, Hernandez he's been playing at a high level so far.

[rojinegro13]

Landin is now with Houston Dynamo, anyone think he will have sucess?

[P-P]

as long as he gets some plsying time he'll have success

[dannymex]

good to see Moreno finally called up! it'll be interesting to see if calderon gets any playing time, I doubt he will. I also would of like to see the other kid from chivas get a shot, Hernandez he's been playing at a high level so far.

oh you mean el chicarito, he should have been called up i think... pero pues ya que.

[Calif]

Landin is now with Houston Dynamo, anyone think he will have sucess?

I think he will have a lot of sucess and he will end up in Europe watch..:)

[Calif]

oh you mean el chicarito, he should have been called up i think... pero pues ya que.

Si creo que deberian de haberlo llamado instead of Guille Franco!

[Calif]

Who's that?

That's cool that he plays there though.


He used to play for Veracruz sometime ago!

[Xizor]

I think he will have a lot of sucess and he will end up in Europe watch..:)

For 6 months and then return to Mexico where his level will drop to an all time low. It's happened a lot before, just ask Franciso Fonseca. lol

[Calif]

:lol:...No lo creo not if he goes into a middle league team!

[manuelleon]

Olympiakos Eye Loan Deal for Giovani
http://mexico.worldcupblog.org/files/2009/05/gio.jpg
Reports in Greece, claim website IMScouting.com, suggest Olympiakos plan to offer Tottenham’s Giovani Dos Santos an escape route on loan – but they face competition from Turkish rivals Besiktas who are keen on the Mexican. (Daily Mail)

It appears that the Greek side Olympiakos are only interested in a loan deal for the young Mexican but the Turkish outfit Besiktas would be interested in signing the £6m attacker on a permanent deal, perhaps Harry Redknapp is better off opting to send the former Barcelona man out on loan because the 20 year old has undoubted potential but could well suffer the fate of a good many Tottenham players who were at the club prior to the former Pompey manager’s arrival.

The Turkish champions have had an average start to their season and have the Champions League to look forward to and appear to have some cash to splash having already snapped up the excellent Nihat from Villarreal.

Giovani had a stunningly successful impact when playing for his national side at the Gold Cup he was voted the player of the tournament but he still seems some way off adding to his two Premier League starts.

In many ways Spurs could benefit more from the talented youngster going out on loan to another English club so he can better get used to his surroundings, his spell at Ipswich Town was a success and if Harry can find a home for him at a lower level Premier League club then it may suit the club more. However if Besiktas put in a decent offer Redknapp may feel the time is right to cut his

[Xizor]

:lol:...No lo creo not if he goes into a middle league team!

Omar Bravo......same thing. He won't make it over there dude.

[Calif]

:lol:...dude not every mexican player that goes to Europe doesn't succeeds! I have faith in Landin!

[Xizor]

Huh? lol revise your sentence there bro, you sound like your 4. lol Landin hasn't been consistent in the clubs he's been in. Sure he's had great runs but they don't seem to last long. Your comparing his capability with a consistent player, for example Andres Guardado. His success and consistency of being a great player is what got him where he is now. On top of that players need to adapt to a faster pace and different style of game and still keep that constancy over seas. Landin is just one of those regular players that has had good moments in their career. Not much else can be said about him. He really has no highlights that distinguish him from other players that have made it in Europe for being great in their local league. I hope I'm wrong about this but at this point in time Landin's capabilities are no where close to landing him in a European team.

[dannymex]

yeah i dunno, landin seems pretty average if anything...

[Xizor]

He did have that great run when he was like 20 years old remember? That's what landed him in the national team for a couple of games but after that I really haven't herd much of him. Just a couple of times with Morelia but other then that, none. Anyways that's my two cents on him, an average player like dannymex said.

[dannymex]

and remember in the national team? he did really bad.

[Xizor]

He got some minutes oh and I remember he was one of the reasons why we failed to qualify to the Olympics. I take back what I said, Landin sucks. lol

[Calif]

Yeah I know he is not consistent but in the MLS bro he can have one of those short runs..and they might take him to Europe bro! You never know..look at De Nigris..look at that one fool that nobody knew shit about him that Layun!

[P-P]

Landin all that he needs is some playing time, and tyhat has been seen with Cruz Azul.

everytime Landin has done well in a team i because hes gotten playing time.

and everytime he's gone down in leves is becasue the coach, (usually a new coach with a new plan) have taken him off the field

[Xizor]

Yeah I know he is not consistent but in the MLS bro he can have one of those short runs..and they might take him to Europe bro! You never know..look at De Nigris..look at that one fool that nobody knew shit about him that Layun!

The only Mexicans that have triumphed in USA are Palencia, Suarez and Blanco. I might be missing a couple but those are the only ones that come to mind at the moment. Landin is an average player, think of it this way, if he was good he would of been called up to the national team numerous times already.

[Calif]

Yeah but he has not been given an opportunity man is all Im saying if he gets that confidence then he might become a more regular player someone with more possibilities..man that's what I'm saying!

@P-P that is true everyone was expecting Landin to keep on scoring goals this season again with Cruz Azul but nope that didn't happen thanks to the new coach!

[manuelleon]

i cant believe you guys are going on about this subject with Landin. He is a decent player in Mexico's league...he would show more class if he had consistent playing time there. MLS is a 2 or 3 tear league in my opinion, and im sure he'll show class in that level.

[The SO]

agreed... if landin gets more playing time he will show his worth. not a big fan of his, however he has impressed me more than a few times. Consistency is the key word para el

[Solid Snake]

^ Welcome to SFN :wave: ........... and I agree with you guys aswell.... altough i think Landin won't become anything important.... maybe i'm wrong, but that's what i think ;)

[Xizor]

agreed... if landin gets more playing time he will show his worth. not a big fan of his, however he has impressed me more than a few times. Consistency is the key word para el

Something ain't right here. I'll make an IP check just to make sure. :typing:

[Xizor]

Anyways Landin sucks. If he was good Aguirre would of called him up to the national team instead of Cacho.

[dannymex]

Franco signed with West Ham.... Good luck to him.

[Calif]

yeah good luck to him!

About Landin...don't want to talk about it anymore...:lol:

[manuelleon]

Franco signed with West Ham.... Good luck to him.

It's not official.

[Calif]

I think it is dude..I mean he left Mexico and was so happy he said to play for west ham..:)

[P-P]

Here i heard that he ended up with Estudiantes La Plata

[Calif]

This week we would see where he ends up but as far as I know he is with West Ham he just need to approve his medical exams I think!

[Xizor]

He's signed with West Ham already.

[Calif]

Well I haven't seen nothing in West Hams official page..last time I heard he still needed to pass those exams and sign the contract...but I don't know..I think is a done deal!

[dannymex]

Well I haven't seen nothing in West Hams official page..last time I heard he still needed to pass those exams and sign the contract...but I don't know..I think is a done deal!

man i thought it was official, i just checked the west ham page but hes not on there. Who knows what will happen.

[Xizor]

He'll be signed by Monterrey. =]

[Calif]

Yeah like i said last thing I heard he still need to pass those Medical Exams and then he will sign the contract!

[manuelleon]

Guillermo Franco might make his debut for West Ham on Saturday against Liverpool.

[Calif]

Well he might I heard he still might not be in the bench he is working in the physical aspect and also gettin use to the coach's tactics!

[Solid Snake]

Marquez was Barca's captain yesterday.... is he the 3rd or 4th captain?

Puyol > Xavi > Valdes? > Iniesta or Marquez?..... and i've seen messi playing as captain too

maybe they all just take turns :lol:

[Xizor]

They rotate it. I remember seeing Eto'o as captain once when he was still with Barcelona.

[dannymex]

what game was it that he was captain?

[Xizor]

If I'm not mistaken it was a friendly game sometime last year. It was a while back.

[Solid Snake]

i think he means Marquez... It was a la Copa del Rey match

[manuelleon]

Is Vela hurt? Because I'm watchin the Tottenham Arsenal match and Velas not on the bench, neither is Gio I guess he's still out. That sucks they're not on the field playin against each other on such a big rival match between Arsenal n Tottenham.

[manuelleon]

I also heard Arsenal is interested in Martin Galvan. Hopefully he stays away from Wenger because he'll just loan him out for his whole career.

[P-P]

Can anybody find video for Franco's goal

[Solid Snake]

i saw it... it was lame, but it was a goal

even you would have scored there Pepe ;)

[P-P]

I dont need to see it anymore then

[manuelleon]

Calderon to England?

http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/Sunderland-close-in-on-Mexican-winger-article207623.html

[Solid Snake]

that would be aight

[Calif]

I heard about that and hopefully he goes to Europe we need more players in Europe!

[dannymex]

i'm about to get signed to european. Thats good for all of us

[Calif]

European Magazine or something?..:lol:

Why is that good for all of us?

[dannymex]

a european babe! i'm gonna be in europe, i might get called up to the national team now.

You didnt know? any mexican that plays in europe is considered for the national team even if you dont play soccer

[Calif]

Oh yes, I knew that...that would be awesome having a player like you in the NT will be awesome man...maybe you could sign a deal with SFN and sponsor the website!...:lol:

[dannymex]

i'll write viva sfn on my chest and when i score i'll take off my shirt

[Calif]

No bro, Seen how you would be a very successful player if you take your shirt off many times you would get a red card....Imagine you scored 2 goals in the same game and then you would get a red card so not a good idea :nono:

[Solid Snake]

i'll write viva sfn on my chest and when i score i'll take off my shirt

FAIL!!.... j/K

Calif and I already had that idea :D........ i think every SFN member has thought about that :)

[Calif]

Yeah...I think next time I go see the National Team im going to take a sign saying something about SFN...hopefully everyone who sees the sign will be like WTF is SFN!

[Solid Snake]

People would join........ but no one would remember the link... it's too damn long

forums.soccerfansnetwork.com

should be more like

SFN.com

[Calif]

well is just soccer fans network!

[dannymex]

hey calif next time they play we should go and meet up and will make signs and shit!

[Calif]

We should or run across the field with SFN written all over us...:) What's the worse that can happened? get kicked out and spend a couple of hours in jail...and then we will be free...:)

[Solid Snake]

We should or run across the field with SFN written all over us...:) What's the worse that can happened? get kicked out and spend a couple of hours in jail...and then we will be free...:)

:lol::lol::lol:

[Solid Snake]

Man you guys really have a powerhouse now!

Dos Santos
Vela
Guardado
Marquez
Castillo
Bravo
Salcido
Osorio
Ochoa
Oswaldo
Torrado
Borgetti
De Nigris
Franco
Pardo

I cant believe a player like Jorge Campos never got sold to europe, and how Blanco didnt get more chances in europe either, 2 years more development and Mexico could go all the way in WC next time!

we suck :boo:


btw.... any transfer rumors???

[Calif]

Barrera!
Magallon
Ochoa
???????

[Solid Snake]

I heard chivas want Juarez :boo:

[footballfan999]

Did Andres Guardado really have 47 caps for the Mexican national team? He's only 23!

[Solid Snake]

^ Yeah... he played WC 06!

[BavarianRed]

dam thats impressive, only 23 and that many caps already, from what I've seen this guy has a great future ahead of him..

[Solid Snake]

^ Surely.... and Deportivo is currently 5th in the League with 25 points, Barca has 30, so that's pretty good. If he closes a good season and has a decent WC, i'm sure we'll see him in a bigger club.

[dannymex]

he should be in a bigger club, and i'm sure after this world cup he'll make his break through.

[footballfan999]

There's a kid names dos Santos in Barcelona... he sort of looks like Giovani. Could he be his brother?

[dannymex]

haha yeah it is his brother.

[Calif]

Yeah Jonathan Dos Santos!

[Solid Snake]

I think he's better than Busquets

[Calif]

Maybe..man..!

[manuelleon]

Have any of you guys heard of this kid? he plays in Italy...


http://www.carlocrociani.com/en/content/carlo-crociani-b%C3%A1rcenas

[Solid Snake]

^ No.... thanks for the info, Although i doubt he will want to play for Mexico... That is, if he has quality

[manuelleon]

^ No.... thanks for the info, Although i doubt he will want to play for Mexico... That is, if he has quality


this is his highlights in a game...
http://www.carlocrociani.com/en/content/highlights




And people on this forum have been talking to him on facebook and he says he would like to play for Mexico but he wasnt even aware that anyone from Mexico knew about him.

[manuelleon]

AND THIS KID


"Chivas exports yet another player to Spain. I hope he stays down there, but hey at least Chivas got Plascencia back (problems with his coach). This kid is a Zaguero and plays for the U15 where he is the captain.


http://www.record.com.mx/images/sections/thumbs/thumb_5945255.jpg


Los días del defensa Alfonso Solorio en la Perla Tapatía están por terminarse.
El jugador juvenil proveniente de las inferiores de Chivas ya está oficialmente arreglado con el Valencia, y es cuestión de días para que emprenda su vuelo a España.

Por lo pronto, el joven Alfonso Solorio está a la expectativa de que llegue su visa de estudiante procedente de España, con la cual podrá comenzar a arreglar sus maletas y emprender su vuelo al futbol ibérico.

Se espera que la visa de Poncho esté en sus manos esta misma semana y posteriormente organizarse para ver el día en que parta a España e incorporarse de lleno a su nuevo equipo, al club Valencia CF que es uno de los equipos protagonistas de la Liga de las estrellas. -PasionPorElTri"

http://www.record.com.mx/futbol/juvenil-de-chivas-es-firmado-por-el-valencia-19102009.html

[Solid Snake]

Very promising indeed!... Typical Italian defending.... Technically he looks very good + he has speed..... Do you know anything about his crossing ability.

And I'm gonna ask you too remove the 2nd link.... Forum Rules.... sorry

[manuelleon]

And I'm gonna ask you too remove the 2nd link.... Forum Rules.... sorry

whats that about? you cant have links to other forums??

And no i dont know anything of his crossing ability other then what you see in the highlight video.

[manuelleon]

theres also 2 players (Carlos Plascencia and Richard Sánchez) in the Atletico Madrid academy... wtf? where did these players come from...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y6OEUw485KA&feature=related

[Solid Snake]

you cant have links to other forums??

Exactly... Thank you :)

Anyways.. I liked what i saw, you should create a Thread and keep us updated on him

[manuelleon]

Exactly... Thank you :)

Anyways.. I liked what i saw, you should create a Thread and keep us updated on him

Will do...

did you see the other posts i posted on The kid in Valencia and the dudes from Atl Madrid?

[Solid Snake]

Will do...

did you see the other posts i posted on The kid in Valencia and the dudes from Atl Madrid?

I read the posts.... I didn't know about any of them to tell you the truth.

I remember one going to Milan a year back.... haven't heard much about him though

[manuelleon]

I read the posts.... I didn't know about any of them to tell you the truth.

I remember one going to Milan a year back.... haven't heard much about him though

Its weird... no one posts on SFN a lot anymore.

[Solid Snake]

Its weird... no one posts on SFN a lot anymore.

I know..... i have considered quitting this place because of the poor activity... But maybe when the WC comes we can get new members, we have to keep this section alive for that to happen though

[manuelleon]

I know..... i have considered quitting this place because of the poor activity... But maybe when the WC comes we can get new members, we have to keep this section alive for that to happen though

yeah i feel you...

[manuelleon]

Salcido was very solid, Maza was solid but had a weak period in the first half of there Europa League match against Sparta Prag, PSV won 1-0.

On a related note, according to the AD Sportwereld a ridiculous number of scouts and managers were present at the PSV game ( about 15), ridiculous that is for a Euroleague game. It hasnot gone unnoticed that PSV is on the way back. The top of the EPL except Arsenal were there with Tottenham etc, the Bundesliga and Spain. According to that article Salcido was one of the players targeted. You would be finished faster mentioning the players they didnot come to watch.

[Calif]

I remember about that Plascensia kid going to Atletico Madrid there was a lot of controversy...with Chivas I think if im not mistaking..that they wanted some money for him, Because he was apparently in Chivas youth system and shit they wanted some money or something...can't remember what was the whole deal about him!

Carlos Plascencia es seleccionado Sub-15, jugando como lateral izquierdo; y fue observado por un promotor en un torneo en España, fue entonces que "él se acercó directamente a los padres, con una falta de respeto total de este señor, les promete cosas, eso es en lo que debemos de tener cuidado no solamente Chivas, sino todos los equipos de México", porque luego fue a ofrecerlo al Atlético de Madrid.

Como los reglamentos de FIFA permiten que un equipo pueda llevarse a un menor de edad, con el consentimiento de sus padres, Chivas está tratando de llevar un buen camino en las conversaciones para llegar a un justo acuerdo.

"El papá dijo que de ninguna manera saldría peleado de Chivas, entonces estamos en ese proceso. Legalmente no podemos hacer una transferencia, pero hay muchas maneras de hacer esto, como los convenios.

"Estamos pensando en un futuro del joven, de nosotros y del Atlético de Madrid, aquí de lo que estamos muy confiados es en la palabra del papá y del Atlético", apuntó.

Pero reconoció que existe una preocupación por parte de la institución pues cada vez es más la llamada piratería de jugadores, por lo que advirtió que de seguir en ese camino, Chivas llegaría a tomar medidas drásticas.

"Hay una realidad, FIFA desgraciadamente no protege a los productores de jugadores, les da la ventaja a los equipos europeos, que es de donde se manejan; en varias partes del mundo tenemos ese problema.

[manuelleon]

I remember about that Plascensia kid going to Atletico Madrid there was a lot of controversy...with Chivas I think if im not mistaking..that they wanted some money for him, Because he was apparently in Chivas youth system and shit they wanted some money or something...can't remember what was the whole deal about him!


wait so he went there for FREE?

[Calif]

YEah but with Chivas approval or something saying that before going to Atletico he was part of Chivas or some weird shit like that!

[manuelleon]

YEah but with Chivas approval or something saying that before going to Atletico he was part of Chivas or some weird shit like that!

dumb, thats gonna cause some sh!t if he becomes real good, for his rights and all that stuff.

[dannymex]

what the hell? its awesome that these kids are all heading out to spain. I hope they make it there!

[Calif]

So after making like 2 appearances with Atalanta Layun hasn't seen much activity!

[manuelleon]

Just got done watching the FIFA World Club Cup match Atalante vs Barca. And wow Memo Rojas was extremely impressive, so was Arbelloa i think his name was and Navarro and Bermudez "El Hobbit" was too. But yeah Rojas reminded me of Messi the way he controls the ball and his touch when running. He scored an amazing goal in the 5th minute.

Aguirre needs to call these guys up for the up coming friendlies, especially Memo Rojas.

[Solid Snake]

Hobbit didn't have a very good game... but he's the most impressive IMO... And Rojas' dribbling is good :thumbsup:

[Calif]

I was very surprise with Rojas...great game! Yeah Hobbit didn't have his best game yet he manage to get around some defenders..:). That defender was really good too Velasquez I think...pretty good..and the end the score wasn't as bad!

[Xizor]

Any news on Nery Castillo? Haha this dude is a bum!

[Solid Snake]

I know... and the celestes think we're cray for his "talent" :lol:

[Xizor]

In all honesty Uruguay could take him back, I mean I hope he recovers his form and becomes the Nery from the 2007 Copa America but dam that dude converted into a Kikin Fonseca, possibly worst!

[Solid Snake]

worse... at least fonseca plays

[manuelleon]

Guys chill, I really believe nery is one of our best talents. If he was tearing up at a club somewhere you guys wouldnt be saying this. He's not a bum either man, its not his fault hes not getting any playing time. Get him to a club any club were he can make stuff happens.

[Calif]

I agree...with you Leonardinho and I hope he moves to another club where he will be playing for SURE...not just hoping to move and hoping to play...he needs to another team!

[dannymex]

Guys chill, I really believe nery is one of our best talents. If he was tearing up at a club somewhere you guys wouldnt be saying this. He's not a bum either man, its not his fault hes not getting any playing time. Get him to a club any club were he can make stuff happens.

wow dude thats like the first positive thing i have heard you say. Im proud and i agree with you completely.

[Solid Snake]

wow dude thats like the first positive thing i have heard you say. Im proud and i agree with you completely.

what are you talking about, leonardinho always makes good points IMO

[Calif]

I think this is just the first time Danny takes the time to read one of his posts..:lol:

[Solid Snake]

but I don't agree with dinho this time :tsk:

[Calif]

porque? crees que no se recupera el Nery o que?

[Solid Snake]

that guy is done with! :sad:

no tiene remedio :nono:

[Calif]

Jajajaja yo no lo creo y creo que se recuperara!

[Solid Snake]

i hope he proves me wrong

[manuelleon]

what are you talking about, leonardinho always makes good points IMO


wow dude thats like the first positive thing i have heard you say. Im proud and i agree with you completely.

haha thanks Snake, and yeah i might say negative things on players and such its just cause i wanna seem them do better than they are and i know theyre capable to do so. :p

[Xizor]

porque? crees que no se recupera el Nery o que?

The guy is selfish and self centered. Sure he has talent.....lots more then your typical Mexican player but the guy is cocky as hell. Teams in Mexico have tried to give him playing time if only he moved to Mexico but the guy clearly stated it would be a step down for him. Haha the guy sucks balls, he's not in rhythm or in shape to play in a single European match because his ass is stuck to the bench, no no actually he's a reserve meaning he watches the games from the stands. This guy is clearly rotting on the bench, I've said it a million times. This guy needs to get his shit together and start playing in Mexico, like in Cruz Azul, Pachuca, Santos or America. A high paced team that could give him the minutes he needs to get back in shape, the guy is too stupid to realize this though. He rather play in a mediocre European league just to say "aaahhh yeah I play in Europe and you play in Mexico, meaning I'm better then you". What the fuk, he's a idiot, simple as that.

[manuelleon]

Well if that's the case he deserves to be rotting in eastern Europe. If he's that selfish and pompous then I don't feel sorry for his situation.

[Calif]

The guy is selfish and self centered. Sure he has talent.....lots more then your typical Mexican player but the guy is cocky as hell. Teams in Mexico have tried to give him playing time if only he moved to Mexico but the guy clearly stated it would be a step down for him. Haha the guy sucks balls, he's not in rhythm or in shape to play in a single European match because his ass is stuck to the bench, no no actually he's a reserve meaning he watches the games from the stands. This guy is clearly rotting on the bench, I've said it a million times. This guy needs to get his shit together and start playing in Mexico, like in Cruz Azul, Pachuca, Santos or America. A high paced team that could give him the minutes he needs to get back in shape, the guy is too stupid to realize this though. He rather play in a mediocre European league just to say "aaahhh yeah I play in Europe and you play in Mexico, meaning I'm better then you". What the fuk, he's a idiot, simple as that.

I'ts beyond that..man what this guy needs to do is pay-off whatever he has left of contract with Shahktar...That team has been letting Nery go to crappy teams where he has not been playing, I remember a while back when he was going to go to Betis, But Shahktar did not approve the move to Betis and it all went down he ended up going to a crappy team. But yeah he is very cocky and yeah I think if he want a chance to play for Mexico during the World Cup he needs to start playing for another club!

[Xizor]

Did you guys see Guille Franco with West Ham yesterday? He played a hell of a game against Chelsea, he had great passes and almost scored the winning goal 2 minutes before the game ended. This guy is doing fantastic, we need him healthy for the next 5 months.

[Calif]

Yeah I did watch the match and he did great..plus he was helping a lot in the Midfield..creating opportunities and stuff good for him!

[manuelleon]

this is so cool...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNX-DzCK9i8

[Solid Snake]

Maza sucks!

[manuelleon]

Maza sucks!

i just thought it was cool of Maza to do that, and seeing the whole thing from theyre POV

[Solid Snake]

He's been regular this season... But he won't ever consolidate as a reliable CB

[Solid Snake]

2 Mexican defenders scored this week in the Dutch league :D :thumbsup:

[dannymex]

yeah but maza sucks so it shouldnt matter to you, right?

[Solid Snake]

yeah but maza sucks so it shouldnt matter to you, right?

The good thing of having Maza in the dutch leage is that it can open the doors for more (competent) Mexicans if he does acceptable :ronaldo:

[dannymex]

that was a cool video, maza seems like a cool dude. I hope he keeps doing well. It would be nice to see him on the national team. Perhaps not as a starter but definitely good to come off the bench

[dannymex]

The good thing of having Maza in the dutch leage is that it can open the doors for more (competent) Mexicans if he does acceptable :ronaldo:

hahaha dont hate, but accept that he is doing a good job :)

[Solid Snake]

At this point, I would take him in consideration, because other defenders have been rather poorly lately.

By the way... Guess what? Our "captain" was red carded in the match vs Getafe. What a surprise :rolleyes:

[dannymex]

lol see... at this point i wouldnt mind see rafa on the bench and maza on the pitch. Marquez needs to get his shit together.

[Solid Snake]

What about this?

Juarez----Marquez-----Moreno----Salcido

[manuelleon]

damn it...

[Solid Snake]

:lol: Dude... Is it really you?

[manuelleon]

yup

[dannymex]

What about this?

Juarez----Marquez-----Moreno----Salcido



yeah i think that would work pretty well and if needed maza coming in as a sub.

[Coconut85]

I saw the highlights of the barcelona game, Rafa did not derseve a red for that imho, yellow maybe, but idk if he had a yellow prior to that. It was a crappy angle though, might have to find another video. Plus refs have it out for barcelona :P


As for Nery, i dont think he's as arrogant as he once was, i know i wouldnt be if ive been off the pitch for half a year. He's got confidence though, i'll give him that. Sometimes it's good to have that type of attitude, Cristiano Ronaldo seems to be that way too, and he's always hustling to be better than he presently is. Although i dont agree with Nery taking a penalty shot when he's not supposed to.

Nery is pretty much screwed. Shak put an expensive price tag on him that no one wants to pay for somebody that hasnt been playing for half a year now. I feel bad for the guy really, he should have stayed at Olympiakos, but shoulda coulda woulda.

[Solid Snake]

I really don't see nery playing in the WC. Not how things are...

[Coconut85]

oh yea, i totally agree, but i wish there was a way to salvage him. He's got skill.
I'd call him up for the US tour, give the boy some hope.

[Calif]

Yeah Nery should play every single game and lets hope he gets some rhythm towards the world cup...but I highly doubt seen him in that final list!

[dannymex]

i was thinking the same thing. They should just call him up for every game and have him play. Its not like his team is going to get pissed, they dont even use him.

[Solid Snake]

Wow, you guys are crazy. Why not give opportunity to the players who are getting playing time and scoring?!

[dannymex]

out of the forwards that play in mexico? who do you think they are going to call up? Chicharito? .... sorry i havent been really following the league so i dont know who is doing well.

its not that crazy of an idea, if you start to think about it

[Xizor]

yeah but maza sucks so it shouldnt matter to you, right?

:lol:

[Calif]

Wow, you guys are crazy. Why not give opportunity to the players who are getting playing time and scoring?!

Why not??? I mean called up guys like Chicharito, Esqueda, De Nigris and shit why not Nery Castillo?? If we actually get this guy back in track with the NT playing all of the friendlies without him getting injured or something....he could be a very good sub for the world cup!

[manuelleon]

did you guys know about this guy playing in Spains second division?



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_%C3%81ngel_Seguro

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Real_Uni%C3%B3n#Current_squad



http://www.realunionclub.com/hfichajugador.aspx?20,Juan+Angel+Seguro+Rodr%C3%ADguez,Seguro,3,1,Real+Uni%C3%B3n

[dannymex]

is he any good?

[Solid Snake]

@ Calif - NO NERY! HE doesn't deserve it

[dannymex]

haha i bet you anything hes going to get called up

[Solid Snake]

I know he will... But it's a ***ken disgrace :boo:

[Calif]

Espero lo llamen y calle bocas...:)

[Xizor]

I actually want to see Nery in the national team but with a renovated attitude towards the game and a new mindset. If not I hope he breaks his ankle. =]

[dannymex]

hey man maybe this whole situation will make him humble and realize that he isnt the shit...

[Calif]

Exactly and I think he knows it by now..by the way life has treated him....but hey hopefully for his best and Mexico's best he turns his life around and gets back on track!

[dannymex]

i honestly hope he does, the guy lost both his parents. lets hope he makes it to the world cup, preforms well and gets picked up by a club that is going to give him minutes

[Xizor]

That's what I'm hoping for too, I really do want to see him in top shape and with the national team.

[Solid Snake]

As long as he doesn't pay for his club, it will be a fuken disgrace and disrespect to our National Team if he goes to the WC.... Remember what the idiot said "I'm in Europe and you're still in Mexico" ?!?!?!

What a jerk...

What a disgrace, Mexicans taking players to the world cup just because they play in Europe.... Vela, Nery.

REALITY IS: They haven't scored a damn goal in ages! This is a sad mentality, and I'm fuken sick of it!

[Salt The Fries]

Vela is a disgrace, he needs to move.

[Solid Snake]

I hope he moves to wigan or something like that

[Coconut85]

I wouldnt say Vela is a disgrace...the kid's really good. he just doesnt get much playing time. doesnt help that he recently picked up a knee injury.

[Solid Snake]

I think what he means is his situation is a disgrace.... I hope he does get loaned to another club.

[Salt The Fries]

Yes, that's what I meant.

[dannymex]

just needs minutes... he needs to go back to spain in my opinion

[manuelleon]

He needs to do something, because he isnt going to do sh!t a Arsenal and thats the truth. Sorry. Maybe later in his career but its sure as hell not going to me now. :sad:

[dannymex]

yeah its a bummer...

[Calif]

Well can he still make a move to another club?

[Solid Snake]

Until the summer :sad:

[Calif]

Mmmta madre y ya para que?..:lol:

[Coconut85]

loan? :P

[Calif]

not until the summer I think!

[dannymex]

i read in mediotiempo that wolfsburg and psv are interested in el chicharito

[manuelleon]

i read in mediotiempo that wolfsburg and psv are interested in el chicharito

yeah i heard about PSV but not Wolfsburg, thats sweet though.

[dannymex]

psv just wants to become the chivas of europe

[Xizor]

If that is true he would fit perfectly with PSV.

[dannymex]

i was kinda hoping he would go to the premier league for some reason

[Xizor]

The Dutch League is still pretty competitive, it has similar characteristics the Premier League.

[dannymex]

oh for sure i have nothing against the dutch league but it would be nice if he went to england.

[Xizor]

I think its best he starts out in a where he can adapt better. I mean going from FMF in Mexico to the Premier League in England is tough.

[dannymex]

true, especially because of the style of play... shit xizor youre on a roll today.

[Xizor]

Aaaa you know, I ate my Wheaties in the morning! lol

[Calif]

i read in mediotiempo that wolfsburg and psv are interested in el chicharito

Yeah I heard about them..I think he would feel better with PSV because, He would know Maza and Salcido!

[Solid Snake]

I'd rather he play in the German League.

[Calif]

More competition I think! Pero I hope he makes it and we dont have another Kikin or Bravo's situation!

[Solid Snake]

SFN is really active atm lol

Chicharito has very good physical attributes

[Calif]

I wonder why?

Yeah recuerdas cuando se fue kikin he was scoring a shit load of goals pero nada!

[Solid Snake]

I know, I guess that UNAM was really good

[Calif]

Nope he was with Cruz Azul...then he left!

[manuelleon]

MANCHESTER SIGN
MEXICAN PRODIGY

http://img.thesun.co.uk/multimedia/archive/01020/hernandez_280x390_1020955a.jpg

MANCHESTER UNITED have agreed a £6million deal with Mexican side Chivas to sign Javier Hernandez.

The Mexican hitman has smashed four goals in four games for his country and is expected to move to Old Trafford in the summer.

Hernandez is in line to play at this summer's World Cup finals after finding the net 10 times in 11 appearances in the Primera Division so far this season.

The 21-year-old, nicknamed 'Chicharito' — 'the little pea' — joins Fulham defender Chris Smalling as a new United recruit and is the first Mexican player to sign for the club.

As part of the deal, the Red Devils will play a match to open the new 45,000 capacity Chivas Stadium in Guadalajara as part of its 2010/11 season preparations.

Unite boss Alex Ferguson said: "I am delighted to reach agreement with Chivas to bring such an exciting young striker, who has been in such prolific form for both his club and his country.

"He will be a great addition to our squad and we look forward to welcoming our first Mexican player in the summer.

"We are equally excited to play our first game in Mexico, opening the magnificent new Chivas Stadium in July."

Hernandez passed a medical in Manchester this week and could provide an early glimpse of his talent in England given Mexico are due to visit Wembley for a friendly on May 24.

Read more: http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/sport/football/2925019/Man-United-sign-Mexican-prodigy-Javir-Hernandez.html#ixzz0kWpFWDrD

[Solid Snake]

I was kinda hoping he went to a mid-table club

[GalapagosaraY]

seems like a good transfer he has scored alot for a mid table club plus like Tosic he will probably be loaned to a club that suits him well to improve physique. But is that really the name he is gonna wear on his jersey? lol

[Solid Snake]

I don't think the English can pronounce it... So no :D I bet it's gonna be Hernandez

[Coconut85]

He can't change it! :(

[dannymex]

wtf?
thats rad! i hope he gets playing time though

[Coconut85]

yea, it's gonna be hard for chicharito, but i think he has was it takes to play in the EPL.

[dannymex]

you know i think it is reasonable to say that he could be getting playing time, if he doesnt get loaded out that is.

Those are the fowards he'll be competing against

Micheal Owen
Wayne Rooney
Dimitar Berbatov
and Federico Macheda

[Solid Snake]

I think either Owen or Berbatov will be transferred out

[manuelleon]

I think either Owen or Berbatov will be transferred out

Theres been a lot of talks of Berbatov moving this summer, he was a complete flop.

[Solid Snake]

:D

http://i40.tinypic.com/15o9c2w.jpg

[manuelleon]

hopefully were not talking about Chicharito next season like we have been about Vela :cool:

[manuelleon]

:D

http://i40.tinypic.com/15o9c2w.jpg

Ha, i LOVE that movie!

[Solid Snake]

-------------------America---------------------
---Pumas-----Barcelona---PSV/AZ/Chiv----PSV----
--------------Pumas-----Cruz Azul---------------
-Galatasaray------------------------Deportivo L.C
-----------------ManU----Arsenal---------------

:thumbsup: :D

[dannymex]

-------------------America---------------------
---Pumas-----Barcelona---PSV/AZ/Chiv----PSV----
--------------Pumas-----Cruz Azul---------------
-Galatasaray------------------------Deportivo L.C
-----------------ManU----Arsenal---------------

:thumbsup: :D

i would replace that america with chivas.

damn how is it that pumas sucks yet they give us three great players on the national team.

[manuelleon]

he speaks decent english...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmlx7zKcALc&feature=player_embedded

[Salt The Fries]

Well, that's only half-decent at best. Sorry for my bias, because I'm an english teacher :confused:

[dannymex]

okay that made shit for sense, i hope he learns english while he is there too.

[Solid Snake]

Well, that's only half-decent at best. Sorry for my bias, because I'm an english teacher :confused:

hehehe, He's on a good start though :D He looked nervous.

[manuelleon]

im excited for this.

[dannymex]

same here!

[manuelleon]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/mrod04/chicharitomanutd.jpg

[Coconut85]

I liked the prior Man U jersey more. The last one C.Ronaldo wore. with the two white stripes in the back of the neck. It looked pretty dope.

[Solid Snake]

Who's hands are those? :D

[manuelleon]

Who's hands are those? :D

Berbatovs haha

[Xizor]

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a30/mrod04/chicharitomanutd.jpg

The jersey is a replica of the Mexico 2006 WC jersey. lol I did not know Chicharrito knew English, I mean it's descent. Most Mexican players don't know how to speak English at all. I hope he gets playing time, the only reason why Mexican players haven't triumphed in Europe for all these years is lack of playing time. Have you guys seen Guille Franco, the guy gets playing time and he's doing great with West Ham!

[rojinegro13]

he speaks decent english...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmlx7zKcALc&feature=player_embedded

better than tevez....lol

[Xizor]

Haha I'm sure he will learn with time.

[manuelleon]

"Found this doing some internet sluething on the Times of London website. Who knows if this guy has good "sources" but it is interesting. I am certain he is talking about Omar Arellano.

Timothy Smith wrote:
This kid Hernandez is definitely a striker, a very good one. He would hopefully fill the goal gaps. I have a friend in the US and he said this kid is fantastic, he's fast, strong, and letal. Supposely the kid is Great. I verified him with videos on YOUTUBE and he's definitely scored goals. Although my friend told me there's another kid on the same team, whose really fast, maybe faster than Messi, and my sources say he might be moving to Chelsea or Arsenal soon enough.

I definitely foresee Arellano playing in Europe next year, but I would rather see him play in Spain. He's more cut out for that league. I know he would tear it up playing alongside Guardado at Depor, for example."

[Solid Snake]

Injuries have killed him. Not ready to play in a bigger league. Looks like a lost talent if you ask me... But I hope he does well.

[dannymex]

Injuries have killed him. Not ready to play in a bigger league. Looks like a lost talent if you ask me... But I hope he does well.

injuries have slowed him down, and plus he wasnt getting much playing time. Now that chicharito is gone though, he'll get back in form and pick up where he left off. If so i could see him going to europe. He just needs to prove himself with the national team...

[Solid Snake]

He just needs to prove himself with the national team...

Exactly, before he thinks of Europe, he has to prove himself in the domestic league.

[rojinegro13]

looks like the rumors have started early this year........
http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2010/04/10/pacheco-y-brizuela-estarian-en-lista-de-opciones-del-depor

[Xizor]

So I've been browsing around a couple of forums and everyone is talking about the Nery Castillo dilemma. I think he will get called up within a few weeks. What do you guys think?

[Kuka]

looks like the rumors have started early this year........
http://www.mediotiempo.com/futbol/mexico/noticias/2010/04/10/pacheco-y-brizuela-estarian-en-lista-de-opciones-del-depor

NOOOOOO :scared:
Pacheco can't leave.....it would be a ***king mistake to sell him right now....
He is too young.....in like 3 years he will be a better player and go to a better club than Depor....it is to soon to go to Europe imo.....it will be a mistake of a lifetime :sad:

[dannymex]

you're crazy! i say sell him :D

[Calif]

Pacheco needs to leave great player!

[Kuka]

He's a talented young player...he still needs a bit more experience though .....I can't deny that I like him....But I still think it's way too early

[rojinegro13]

i think its a bit early for him too, but if he has this chance then he better make the best of it.

[Xizor]

El "Tri" tiene una carta secreta para Sudáfrica (http://www.cronica.cl/noticias/site/artic/20100419/pags/20100419170952.php)

What do you guys think?

[dannymex]

i would say what the ***k if it happened but this what i found
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdN2ceKOf28

[dannymex]

good find by the way, xizor !

[Calif]

Yeah I heard about him que PENDEJOS la federacion Mexicana...:sad:

[Solid Snake]

I heard he was not even half mexi

[Calif]

Argentino creo!

[Solid Snake]

Who came up that he was half mexican?

[Calif]

La vdd no lo se pero creo que la Federacion dijieron que podia jugar con Mexico que estupidos :lol:!

[Solid Snake]

Que Verguenza :boo:

[dannymex]

it'd be a dumb move, bc he doesnt know our team... the players we have are enough!

[dannymex]

just saw on mediotiempo that there are european teams interested in pablo barrera, israel castro, and efrain juarez!

[Solid Snake]

Good, I hope they're serious offers.

[Xizor]

Well Efrain Juarez did play for Barcelona B with Gio Dos Santos for a while. I'm not sure where he would fit though. Barrera is definitely suited to play in the Netherlands, I'm sure that's where he's headed and Castro is more of a player suited for La Liga in Spain.

[Coconut85]

Good, I hope they're serious offers.

Ya they probably are, Pumas is just waiting for their players to shine in the World Cup so they can be sold for alot more.

[dannymex]

i would love to see all those dudes in europe. They all seem like they could do great things.

Do you guys think Torrado should have tried going to england! Hes a tough player kinda like paul scholes. They have a similar style of play i think, they've both very agressive.

[Xizor]

Hell yeah, when he played in Sevilla he wasn't as aggressive but I think he should go back to Europe.

[Calif]

Who Torrado?? he played for Racing de Santander no?

[Xizor]

Who Torrado?? he played for Racing de Santander no?

Yes he did but he also played with Sevilla for two years before going with Racing.

[rufflez11]

torrado could play in spain again. he's a seasoned vet. tough as nails.

[Xizor]

Carlos Salcido suena para el París Saint Germain
Amsterdam, miércoles 28 de Abril del 2010

http://euro.mediotiempo.com/media/2010/04/28/carlos-salcido.jpg

* El zaguero tiene contrato hasta el 2012 con el PSV Eindhoven

El defensa mexicano del PSV Eindhoven, Carlos Salcido, podría ser transferido en breve al Club francés París Saint Germain.

El entrenador del conjunto granjero, Fred Rutten, señaló que será una transferencia que pondrá en desventaja a su equipo, pero beneficiará al jugador mexicano.

Salcido, con cuatro temporadas en el PSV Eindhoven y contrato hasta el 2012, está de acuerdo en cambiar de club, porque seguirá actuando en el futbol europeo, pero ahora de otras latitudes, como es Francia.

Con esto Carlos Salcido se convierte en el segundo defensa mexicano que está en la mira del equipo PSG, ya que el primero fue el también zaguero Héctor Moreno, del AZ Alkmaar.