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KCShuffle
06-17-2006, 06:11 PM
Anyone know the name of the song the Mexicans sing in the stands? It's really familiar to me, as if I heard it a lot as a child.

bernardo8
06-17-2006, 09:28 PM
cielito lindo??
el rey??

dreamsmaker
06-19-2006, 02:35 AM
may be the cielito lindo.. or culeeeeroooooo!!!!!!!!

caruiz93
06-19-2006, 06:14 AM
i only heard mexico sing cielito lindo.

Jr Tigre
06-22-2006, 02:28 AM
It's cielito lindo. It's pretty obvious.

faire
06-23-2006, 05:00 AM
Mexico (and all the mexican clubs) has the most stupid football chant ever: "a la bim a la bao a la bim bom bao {insert_team_name_here x2} ra ra ra" JUST STUPID!!!!!

extremesexy
06-23-2006, 05:17 AM
i would like 2 know what is that the mexicans fan call the opposite goalie when they kick , i heard alot on da wc but can make it out

mawin312
06-23-2006, 05:26 AM
i would like 2 know what is that the mexicans fan call the opposite goalie when they kick , i heard alot on da wc but can make it out

They say puto (bit*h).:)

bernardo8
06-23-2006, 06:08 AM
i would like 2 know what is that the mexicans fan call the opposite goalie when they kick , i heard alot on da wc but can make it out

yeah, they start yelling when hes about to kick, but just yelling oohhh and when he kicks the ball the yell puto

caruiz93
06-23-2006, 04:30 PM
Mexico (and all the mexican clubs) has the most stupid football chant ever: "a la bim a la bao a la bim bom bao {insert_team_name_here x2} ra ra ra" JUST STUPID!!!!!



yeah it is stupid.but at least our footbal is know around the world unlike chiles who sucks.

Maxpayne
06-23-2006, 04:34 PM
Anyone know the name of the song the Mexicans sing in the stands? It's really familiar to me, as if I heard it a lot as a child.

They sing acucaracha :D

Maxpayne
06-23-2006, 04:36 PM
yeah, they start yelling when hes about to kick, but just yelling oohhh and when he kicks the ball the yell puto

Well its not goalies problem that they suck (seriously they almost maded it from 1 of the easiest groups). And that should be disqualififcation for saying those words.

benfica64
06-23-2006, 04:46 PM
shit I didnt even realize or know that Mexican fans chant that? ( yell out puto everytime the other teams goalkeeper touches and kicks the ball) Hate to say this but I think that is really stupid and disrespectful towards other teams and players. why name call for no appearant reason??? I Lost some of the rspect I held for the mexican fan. They need stop such stupid antics.

handofgod
06-23-2006, 05:57 PM
shit I didnt even realize or know that Mexican fans chant that? ( yell out puto everytime the other teams goalkeeper touches and kicks the ball) Hate to say this but I think that is really stupid and disrespectful towards other teams and players. why name call for no appearant reason??? I Lost some of the rspect I held for the mexican fan. They need stop such stupid antics.

I agree dude, I've saying this all along, IMO it's all part of the overhyped atmosphere created by the Mexican media. Same goes with ole, ole, it was funny at the end of the Portugal-Mexico game the Portuguese were the ones teaching the Mexican fans some manners by chanting ole, ole at the end of the game when the result was a foregone conclusion, not at the beggining the wya Mexicans fans have been doing it.

I mean I understand sometimes ppl and fans may chant names and stuff during a game where let's say the ref made a ton of bad calls or out of just pure frustration but not just because with no apparent reason. Very classless IMO.

benfica64
06-23-2006, 06:18 PM
I agree dude, I've saying this all along, IMO it's all part of the overhyped atmosphere created by the Mexican media. Same goes with ole, ole, it was funny at the end of the Portugal-Mexico game the Portuguese were the ones teaching the Mexican fans some manners by chanting ole, ole at the end of the game when the result was a foregone conclusion, not at the beggining the wya Mexicans fans have been doing it.

I mean I understand sometimes ppl and fans may chant names and stuff during a game where let's say the ref made a ton of bad calls or out of just pure frustration but not just because with no apparent reason. Very classless IMO.

It is one thing to cheer on your team and chant while the game is being played and all fans should cheer on there team but calling the other teams goalkeep A BITCH every time he touches and or kicks the ball is not cheering on your team or about chanting its about simply being jackasses with no respect for the team they are playing. The reason I didnt even know this is because IAm hearing impaired and usually just watch the games with the close caption On and they obviously dont mention this. Its is clearly understandable for fans to get upset at the way things are going through out the match and perhaps yell at the ref, there own players or even the other team, but I never heard any FANS doing what Mexico does and that is simply Insult the other teams goalkeeper for no other reason except to do so. chanting ole ole ole I have no problem with they want to cheer on da team super but this is total disrespect for the other team and players and their fans. ITs show no class what so ever on the part of the MExicans. Handofgod ive already said that i have agreed with alot of your post when it deals directly with the football issues, I never agree when it goes abit overboard, but like i said this is mexico going over the line insulting other nations teams and players like this. Shame on u Mexico, thought of u in a better light.

unam_mx
06-23-2006, 07:38 PM
Man yall need to grow the f'k up, yall make the biggest deal of the littlest crap...Ive heard much worse from fans, the only difference is ours are in unision which makes it sound louder other than that this is a normal thing.And for the record they dont just do this to opposing national teams it has nothing to do with that.This is done in our league as well, to Mexican clubs and Mexican goalies so quit crying about doing this specifically to insult other nations.

handofgod
06-23-2006, 09:57 PM
Man yall need to grow the f'k up, yall make the biggest deal of the littlest crap...Ive heard much worse from fans, the only difference is ours are in unision which makes it sound louder other than that this is a normal thing.And for the record they dont just do this to opposing national teams it has nothing to do with that.This is done in our league as well, to Mexican clubs and Mexican goalies so quit crying about doing this specifically to insult other nations.

One thing is fan support and quite another to LIE to the fans overhyping your team and making them waste all of their lifetime savings to travel to Germany thinking they will see Mexico win the WC.

Maybe they opt staying in Germany, ok that's bit too far; my point and Benfica's is what's wrong with being polite with your opponent. It appears you can not differentciate this nation rivalries are healthy ones, very different from club afffiliation, man do you ppl know anything about soccer??!!

caruiz93
06-23-2006, 11:25 PM
first of all this thread was about a song that sounded familiar to someone.now if you want to talk about class less here you go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w4wYtE5DGww

caruiz93
06-23-2006, 11:28 PM
you really want to talk about classless?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LgYDPrF18Q

bernardo8
06-24-2006, 11:43 PM
ahhahah i cant beleive how big a deal they made of the puto thing. hahahh this has been done for years in mexican stadiums for club games. its not that the mexican fans hate the other country, obviously not, or that they hate the goalie, obviously not too. they really dont give a shit about who the goalie is or where he is from.

if u want to talk about good fans u have to have a look at mexico. people who dont have the best life (economically) bust their asses 4 years just to save enough money to be able to travel tens of thousands of km to be able to support their team. doesn it surprise u that mexico is the team with most people over there? yes thats right more than any european country (other than germany duh), havent u seen videos from outside of the stadium?? today the STANDS were 50-50. but anyone could hear the mexican anthem 10 times more than the argentinian one. no disrespect meant to the argies in germany, i actully have admired them (in germany).

el chingon
06-25-2006, 01:45 AM
lol everybody tries bash mexico on every little thing. then they're going to start talking about the sombreros "oh they block the opposing fans view thats not fair"

caruiz93
06-25-2006, 02:03 AM
lol everybody tries bash mexico on every little thing. then they're going to start talking about the sombreros "oh they block the opposing fans view thats not fair"


lol

dreamsmaker
06-25-2006, 04:00 AM
lol everybody tries bash mexico on every little thing. then they're going to start talking about the sombreros "oh they block the opposing fans view thats not fair"
me robaste la idea:thumb: :thumb:

America10
06-29-2006, 04:43 PM
***ken haters...

tronxz28
06-29-2006, 10:46 PM
ahhahah i cant beleive how big a deal they made of the puto thing. hahahh this has been done for years in mexican stadiums for club games. its not that the mexican fans hate the other country, obviously not, or that they hate the goalie, obviously not too. they really dont give a shit about who the goalie is or where he is from.

if u want to talk about good fans u have to have a look at mexico. people who dont have the best life (economically) bust their asses 4 years just to save enough money to be able to travel tens of thousands of km to be able to support their team. doesn it surprise u that mexico is the team with most people over there? yes thats right more than any european country (other than germany duh), havent u seen videos from outside of the stadium?? today the STANDS were 50-50. but anyone could hear the mexican anthem 10 times more than the argentinian one. no disrespect meant to the argies in germany, i actully have admired them (in germany).

In fact it was really crazy. Nuremberg was so full of mexicans that u can swear u were not in germany but in mexico. Same thing for Hannover. I think all the estimates are short. It was a lot of fun. Even the germans weared mexican shirts and joined us.

bernardo8
06-29-2006, 11:36 PM
in the tv u could see germans with their arm on their chest just like the other mexicans during the national anthem

dreamsmaker
07-02-2006, 07:16 AM
at the bar... germans paying rounds of beers to all the mexicans in there..
chanting cielito lindo and PROST...... who is cold blooded? they are not !!!

Carlos Garza
07-06-2006, 07:54 AM
shit I didnt even realize or know that Mexican fans chant that? ( yell out puto everytime the other teams goalkeeper touches and kicks the ball) Hate to say this but I think that is really stupid and disrespectful towards other teams and players. why name call for no appearant reason??? I Lost some of the rspect I held for the mexican fan. They need stop such stupid antics.

"Stupid and disrespectful"? "You have lost some respect for the Mexican fans"? Are you kidding? Are we supposed to take you seriously...? please take a chill pill and relax... soccer is a game, meant to be played in order to have fun, and that chant that you hear in the stands, is just pure joy for the game, nothing more, so don't take it personal, relax and enjoy this great game. :lol:

handofgod
07-06-2006, 02:47 PM
"Stupid and disrespectful"? "You have lost some respect for the Mexican fans"? Are you kidding? Are we supposed to take you seriously...? please take a chill pill and relax... soccer is a game, meant to be played in order to have fun, and that chant that you hear in the stands, is just pure joy for the game, nothing more, so don't take it personal, relax and enjoy this great game. :lol:

Deep inside that's just to show you most people from different parts of the world feel sorry for your ignorant asses.

handofgod
07-06-2006, 02:51 PM
at the bar... germans paying rounds of beers to all the mexicans in there..
chanting cielito lindo and PROST...... who is cold blooded? they are not !!!

No, what really happened is they heard most of the Mexican fans were told a lie about their country making it all the way to the final :lol: :lol: and learned most Mexicans spent their lifetime savings to go to Germany and felt bad for their broke asses and bought them a few beers to those PUTOS. (I believe you guys are ok with calling people "putos" so I'm calling all of you that mexicanos PUTOS de mierda.

ricoo9
07-06-2006, 05:54 PM
you really want to talk about classless?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1LgYDPrF18Q

Oh U really want to see classless? u mexicans say argentina this and that... haha talk about denial, mexico is the dirtiest team to play the game.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9e0Hb8DoxSU&search=america%20sao%20caetano

or what about this? after the 3-0 loss borgetti trys to start a fight
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tssqkvueyow&search=mexico%20peru

not to mention the time bautista instigated the fight in the boca stadium. Now thats classless!!

unam_mx
07-06-2006, 09:57 PM
Every country has their share of bad incidents and bad apples...it just seems that Argentina has a whole lot more than everyone else, and its always after losses which makes me wonder if they are man enough to take the losses.They also have this sick habit of spitting on people, aside from Bianchi spitting on Bofo there was also Palacios who spit on Veron (who isnt even Mexican) in the Sudamericana finals when they played Pumas.

I think it has to do with how they treat they game, they honestly treat it like a religion...I mean I love soccer but I would never go to that level.In the end it's just a game they seem to not know that.

unam_mx
07-06-2006, 10:05 PM
not to mention the time bautista instigated the fight in the boca stadium. Now thats classless!!

I'll admit that El Bofo is one of our bad apples (along with Blanco), and that it was stupid of him to hold up the 4 fingers...but still it doesnt justify what the Boca players/fans/and coaches did.Theyre f'en grown ups, they have no right to react that way.That is something u would expect a 5-yr old kid to do after someone called him a name, not something u would expect from grown men.I mean come on how much sense does it make..."Ohhh he held up 4 fingers so now Im going to beat him up, spit in his face, and throw flares at the entire Chivas team!".I've seen much worse, were players tell opposing fans to shut up after they score a goal or celebrate them in their faces and they dont go crazy.Again Argentinians take the game way too seriously, to them it is actually a religion.

handofgod
07-06-2006, 11:23 PM
I'll admit that El Bofo is one of our bad apples (along with Blanco), and that it was stupid of him to hold up the 4 fingers...but still it doesnt justify what the Boca players/fans/and coaches did.Theyre f'en grown ups, they have no right to react that way.That is something u would expect a 5-yr old kid to do after someone called him a name, not something u would expect from grown men.I mean come on how much sense does it make..."Ohhh he held up 4 fingers so now Im going to beat him up, spit in his face, and throw flares at the entire Chivas team!".I've seen much worse, were players tell opposing fans to shut up after they score a goal or celebrate them in their faces and they dont go crazy.Again Argentinians take the game way too seriously, to them it is actually a religion.

That's why you Mexicans don't understand the game. It is a religion, it's everything!!!

Carlos Garza
07-07-2006, 05:10 AM
That's why you Mexicans don't understand the game. It is a religion, it's everything!!!

Are you for real? I can't believe you feel this way... do you have a family? Do you have children? How can a game mean everything to anyone? Or how can anybody thing that soccer is a religion?... On a serious note, you are a sad case; you must bee a very lonely person. Try finding help, or at least try thinking before you typing. The more you write the more stupid you look.

dannymex
07-07-2006, 06:33 AM
That's why you Mexicans don't understand the game. It is a religion, it's everything!!!



and then he gets mad when mexicans cheer for mexico... so only he can be so passionate about the teams he roots for.

handofgod
07-07-2006, 04:09 PM
and then he gets mad when mexicans cheer for mexico... so only he can be so passionate about the teams he roots for.

I actually like the fact most Mexicans are passionate about thier team and if anything I actually envy you cuz u know here in the US fan support is lame.
However having said that, you must admit u guys were overrated and hd a mindset u guys belonged to soccer's elite when in reality it was demonstrated u guys don't.

Mexico, for the 1000th time, is a good team, but not the overhyped one that especially your media made most fans believe it was. Mexico IMO is in the right path and will need again a foreign mind to continue La Volpe's work. I know most of you also feel ill about La Volpe but he did an excellent job of putting Mexico's name within reach of soccer's elite, Mexico has never enjoyed this position ever before.

If Mexico hires someone like H. Sanchez just because of local favoritism they will sink again.

caruiz93
07-07-2006, 04:49 PM
That's why you Mexicans don't understand the game. It is a religion, it's everything!!!


yes its like a religion i agree but i also agree with garza.i mean i saw on the news that soem arghetines have a temple for maradona.i also heard one on the news saying that god is nothing compared to maradona.im serious these people are freaks

.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJv3gDsqktU

dannymex
07-07-2006, 08:17 PM
I actually like the fact most Mexicans are passionate about thier team and if anything I actually envy you cuz u know here in the US fan support is lame.
However having said that, you must admit u guys were overrated and hd a mindset u guys belonged to soccer's elite when in reality it was demonstrated u guys don't.

Mexico, for the 1000th time, is a good team, but not the overhyped one that especially your media made most fans believe it was. Mexico IMO is in the right path and will need again a foreign mind to continue La Volpe's work. I know most of you also feel ill about La Volpe but he did an excellent job of putting Mexico's name within reach of soccer's elite, Mexico has never enjoyed this position ever before.

If Mexico hires someone like H. Sanchez just because of local favoritism they will sink again.




ok i agree mexico is overhyped by the mexican media media, but then again they're mexican they just want to support their country. Everyone goes into the world cup with the mindset that their country is going to do before than the last. However, if you follow soccer you know that mexico is not in the elite. they're obviously not a argentina or a brazil, but like you said they're on the right path and hopefully they'll have a good team.

unam_mx
07-07-2006, 09:14 PM
I actually like the fact most Mexicans are passionate about thier team and if anything I actually envy you cuz u know here in the US fan support is lame.
However having said that, you must admit u guys were overrated and hd a mindset u guys belonged to soccer's elite when in reality it was demonstrated u guys don't.

Mexico, for the 1000th time, is a good team, but not the overhyped one that especially your media made most fans believe it was. Mexico IMO is in the right path and will need again a foreign mind to continue La Volpe's work. I know most of you also feel ill about La Volpe but he did an excellent job of putting Mexico's name within reach of soccer's elite, Mexico has never enjoyed this position ever before.

If Mexico hires someone like H. Sanchez just because of local favoritism they will sink again.

Hold up man, I think we've been at this level for a while...remember France 98'?We passed a tougher group than the one we had this time and we also had Germany down 1-0 in the Round of 16, a game which still pisses me off cause we shouldve won (Hernandez missed a clear chance to go up 2-0, bad marking by our idiotic defenders allowed Germany to end up winning 2-1).I dont think what Lavolpe did was all that special, it was basically what we've done for the last 12 yrs.People are really pissed at him because of the players he took, because he made $10 mill off of the Mexican NT and didnt have the guts to show his face after the Argetina loss...atleast to apologize or thank Mexico or something.Also some of the guarantees he made, he said we would reach the semis (everyone just wanted a 5th game but he took it further) were way off.He promised a medal at the Olympics when he was coaching the U-21 team, didnt happen.He also talked alot of crap, he said the U-17 title was nothing and he created internal conflicts.Basically he's and asshole, he's a good coach but as a person noone likes him.

handofgod
07-08-2006, 04:37 AM
Hold up man, I think we've been at this level for a while...remember France 98'?We passed a tougher group than the one we had this time and we also had Germany down 1-0 in the Round of 16, a game which still pisses me off cause we shouldve won (Hernandez missed a clear chance to go up 2-0, bad marking by our idiotic defenders allowed Germany to end up winning 2-1).I dont think what Lavolpe did was all that special, it was basically what we've done for the last 12 yrs.People are really pissed at him because of the players he took, because he made $10 mill off of the Mexican NT and didnt have the guts to show his face after the Argetina loss...atleast to apologize or thank Mexico or something.Also some of the guarantees he made, he said we would reach the semis (everyone just wanted a 5th game but he took it further) were way off.He promised a medal at the Olympics when he was coaching the U-21 team, didnt happen.He also talked alot of crap, he said the U-17 title was nothing and he created internal conflicts.Basically he's and asshole, he's a good coach but as a person noone likes him.

No IMO you ar wrong, 1998 was a sort of golden genration of Mexican players, I believe you actually overachieved this time around giving the kind of talent at hand which unfortunately for Mexico is inferior to that 98 team.

Mexico did well, as in all teams you go through cycles, and that 98 team was indeed a good one, but then it may take years to see the same kind of level. Even countries like Italy, Argentina, Holland and France go through this cycles. IMO La Volpe did a good job with the talent at hand, I mean u guys had to naturalize two players just to get by, and please don't tell me with C. Blanco would have been different, Blanco was appearing in a beer commercial noturiously out of shape, and he is no Ronaldo.

But anyway as I was saying all teams go thr this cycles, I mean you always criticize me or Ricoo about Peru, well we know the mistakes that were made there,sometimes people forget about these cycles and hold on to the memories of the good ol' teams and sacrifice continuity and abandon good planning.

I understand you guys are frustrated cuz it's the 4th WC in a row Mexico is out in the second round, but this is where that Conmebol thing comes back, you guys don't feel the same way about the WC cuz u really do not play anybody to get there and it's pretty much a given you guys have to go, and then once in the WC superior teams put you in your place. I think however this time Mexico is finally turning the page, and I attribute part of this to La Volpe's efforts.

unam_mx
07-08-2006, 09:26 PM
Yeah it was a pretty good generation, but not golden...definitely not a whole lot better than the one we have now.Besides there's also 94', we finished first in a group featuring Italy and got knocked out in penalties in the Round of 16.Seriously dude what Lavolpe did is not much better if at all than what has been done the previous 12 yrs, it might've only been better than 02' because of the embarrasing loss to the USA that WC although in 02' the overall performance (including both group play and Round of 16) was much better than what was displayed this WC.

There's no way he overachieved, I mean we barely squeezed into the Round of 16...we won 1, tied 1, and lost 2.We only played well one game which we lost anyways.They showed that theyre capable of being pretty good in the Argentina game but overall they played crappy if u make an evaluation of the entire four games.I definitely think they were capable of more, not so much of advancing farther but more so about the level that they showed.If they couldve played the way they played Argentina since the start of the WC, and kept on building momentum they mightve done alittle more.Lavolpe changed formations and ideas like crazy though, and some of his decisions were plain retarded.I mean he played with defensive-minded players against bad offensive teams like Iran and Angola and played offensive-minded players against Portugal and Argentina.Am I the only one that sees something wrong with that?

Anyways there's no use discussing this, Lavolpe is already officially out (thank goodness)...I think it can only get better.

Carlos Garza
07-08-2006, 11:02 PM
I have not seen a serious post from a Mexican fan saying that our NT Team is one of the elite team in the world. We get pumped up before our NT Team plays and we know that in 90 minutes in a soccer game, anything can happen. But we also know that our chances against a team like Germany, Argentina, etc. are slim not only because of the quality of their players, but because of the refs. The big teams, in the WC, always seem to get the calls.

handofgod
07-09-2006, 01:39 AM
I have not seen a serious post from a Mexican fan saying that our NT Team is one of the elite team in the world. We get pumped up before our NT Team plays and we know that in 90 minutes in a soccer game, anything can happen. But we also know that our chances against a team like Germany, Argentina, etc. are slim not only because of the quality of their players, but because of the refs. The big teams, in the WC, always seem to get the calls.

I actually think the refs do tend to favor the big name teams, having said that, I still Mexico accomplished exactly that this WC: recognition. Nowhere in time before Mexico has stirred this much the cup, sometimes these kind of things are not necessarly measured by results or stats as Unamx says, the WC is jut part of a compedium of work that began even before this WC and that's what La Volpe accomplished.
You have to remember teams such as Argentina did fail in the past before just last WC, it happens, besides if Mexico keeps this trashing of their coach, not too many other good coaches will likely to take the job. IMO he did way better than SGE for instance given the kind of talent SGE had in England.

tronxz28
07-09-2006, 03:11 AM
I actually think the refs do tend to favor the big name teams, having said that, I still Mexico accomplished exactly that this WC: recognition. Nowhere in time before Mexico has stirred this much the cup, sometimes these kind of things are not necessarly measured by results or stats as Unamx says, the WC is jut part of a compedium of work that began even before this WC and that's what La Volpe accomplished.
You have to remember teams such as Argentina did fail in the past before just last WC, it happens, besides if Mexico keeps this trashing of their coach, not too many other good coaches will likely to take the job. IMO he did way better than SGE for instance given the kind of talent SGE had in England.

You cannot say all those things about Lavolpe. He cannot be a good coach if he is totally scare. He was lost and afraid. He was terrified of the WC. He never found a formation. He was not sure what he wanted to do. He had a lot of problems with players, the media, the owners of the teams, the fans and basically he created most of those problems. If you want to see a person with little confidence then look at Lavolpe. His only way to handle things was to insult someone. All that is transmitted to the players.

Like UNAM mentioned he did not achive something that was not achieved before in the last 3 WC. Actually, those teams had harder groups.

If we can talk about a golden generation that would be the team of WC 94 that was a finalist in the copa america of 93. It was full with great players but with the classic problem of mexican soccer which is the lack of international experience.

You blame mexicans fans that we give it too much importance to the results in the confederations cup but believe me that nobody talks more crap about that than lavolpe himself. He felt just like the big shit always mentioning that cup and how his strategies and his formations were so goood.

Lavolpe can go to China or back to argentina and take Rafael Garcia with him.

handofgod
07-09-2006, 02:42 PM
You cannot say all those things about Lavolpe. He cannot be a good coach if he is totally scare. He was lost and afraid. He was terrified of the WC. He never found a formation. He was not sure what he wanted to do. He had a lot of problems with players, the media, the owners of the teams, the fans and basically he created most of those problems. If you want to see a person with little confidence then look at Lavolpe. His only way to handle things was to insult someone. All that is transmitted to the players.

Like UNAM mentioned he did not achive something that was not achieved before in the last 3 WC. Actually, those teams had harder groups.

If we can talk about a golden generation that would be the team of WC 94 that was a finalist in the copa america of 93. It was full with great players but with the classic problem of mexican soccer which is the lack of international experience.

You blame mexicans fans that we give it too much importance to the results in the confederations cup but believe me that nobody talks more crap about that than lavolpe himself. He felt just like the big shit always mentioning that cup and how his strategies and his formations were so goood.

Lavolpe can go to China or back to argentina and take Rafael Garcia with him.

It's useless to argue with you people, I'm not saying La Volpe is the best coach ever, he was the best coach for the kind of talent Mexico had (low).

I really hope now, u give the job to Hugo Sanchez and I'll rejoice to see Mexico's NT go to the shitter.

Carlos Garza
07-09-2006, 03:24 PM
It's useless to argue with you people, I'm not saying La Volpe is the best coach ever, he was the best coach for the kind of talent Mexico had (low).

I really hope now, u give the job to Hugo Sanchez and I'll rejoice to see Mexico's NT go to the shitter.

With that analogy, if Lavolpe takes the head job of the USA NT, with the talent they have, and a super star like Donovan, the USA would be World Champions. That is, if they don't quit after the first 10 minutes of their first game in the WC.

tronxz28
07-10-2006, 02:03 AM
It's useless to argue with you people, I'm not saying La Volpe is the best coach ever, he was the best coach for the kind of talent Mexico had (low).

I really hope now, u give the job to Hugo Sanchez and I'll rejoice to see Mexico's NT go to the shitter.

Im not sure myself if hugo sanchez is the best choice. Honestly, right now I dont know which one will be the best coach for mexico. If I had to pick one then I would pick Luis Fernando Tena or Carlos Bianchi.

handofgod
07-10-2006, 06:08 AM
Im not sure myself if hugo sanchez is the best choice. Honestly, right now I dont know which one will be the best coach for mexico. If I had to pick one then I would pick Luis Fernando Tena or Carlos Bianchi.

Finally u made some sense, Bianchi would be an excellent choice. About La Volpe, I do think he needs to be out, and maybe he doesn't deserve praise but he certainly does not deserve that much unfair criticism, u guys lost cuz u did not have the talent others do, period.

caruiz93
07-11-2006, 04:02 PM
Finally u made some sense, Bianchi would be an excellent choice. About La Volpe, I do think he needs to be out, and maybe he doesn't deserve praise but he certainly does not deserve that much unfair criticism, u guys lost cuz u did not have the talent others do, period.


we have the talent it s just not developed well.i mean now alot of our players are going to europe.slacido,osorio,pardo,maybe castro,maybe guardado.

caruiz93
07-11-2006, 04:05 PM
and maybe lavolpe helped coordinate the team but he did some pretty stupid things.i mean i understand the pressure of having to take his son in law to germany but i mean he could have left two old guys in mexico and taken giovannin dos santos and carlos vela just to give them and early expierience.

and he left some great plyers like santana,martinez,landin etc.

caruiz93
07-11-2006, 04:06 PM
he sacrificed talent with expiereence.

KCShuffle
07-12-2006, 09:35 AM
Didn't know it would start an argument...but yes, it was Cielito Lindo.

Thanks everyone.

handofgod
07-12-2006, 01:26 PM
and maybe lavolpe helped coordinate the team but he did some pretty stupid things.i mean i understand the pressure of having to take his son in law to germany but i mean he could have left two old guys in mexico and taken giovannin dos santos and carlos vela just to give them and early expierience.

and he left some great plyers like santana,martinez,landin etc.

Dude raw talent does not count when u go to a WC unless u have Maradonas there, and even the greatest of all time, el Diego, did not get to go when he was 18.

Dude raw talent I can find in a park here in the US but they'll probably end up playing baseball or football.
The fact of the matter is that with TODAY'S talent Mexico wasn't good enough and your coach did everything he could with it.

I can not understand why u guys still think your team could have done better, I mean I know u r Mexicans and all but u have to be realistic too, u guys did not have any players in Europe except for Marquez and in case you haven't noticed, he is aobut the only one who u could clearly tell was in a different level except for one bad game he had.

You just do not want to admit the overhype and are putting the blame on your coach rather than your own players.