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Fenerliyim
04-18-2006, 02:44 AM
Its so funny how other teams pick up our garbage. But like other people say one man's garbage is another mans treasure.


Beşiktaş Nobre'yi istedi!


Beşiktaşlı yöneticiler, sezon sonunda Fenerbahçe ile sözleşmesi bitecek Marcio Nobre'ye talip oldular. Brezilyalı yıldız, "F.Bahçe beni bırakırsa gelebilirim" dedi.


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Gel bre Nobre

Beşiktaş, 2.5 yıldır F.Bahçe'de forma giyen ve sezon sonunda sözleşmesi biten Nobre için düğmeye bastı.

Tigana yönetimindeki Beşiktaş, geldiği günden bu yana F.Bahçe'de başarılı bir performans gösteren Nobre'yi transfer listesine aldı. Takımda Kleberson, Bobo gibi Brezilyalı oyuncuların ve aynı dili konuşan Cordoba'nın uyumundan memnun olan yönetim, forvette mücadeleci, fırsatçı ve uzun boylu bir santrforla hücum hattını takviye etmenin planlarını yaparken
performansıyla beğenilen Nobre'nin transfer listesine alındığı bildirildi.

YÖNETİM SESSİZ
Beşiktaşlı bir yöneticinin F.Bahçe'de kiralık oynayan bu futbolcuya "Seni beğeniyoruz. Sezon sonu F.Bahçe ile anlaşamazsan seni Beşiktaş'ta görmek isteriz" dediği ve bu transfer için şimdiden irtibata geçildiği öğrenildi. Beşiktaş yetkilileri, bu görüşme ile ilgili suskun kalmayı tercih ederken, Nobre'nin ise "F.Bahçe ile anlaşamazsam Beşiktaş'ta forma giyerim" dediği belirtildi.

SiN
04-21-2006, 12:38 PM
:lol: well bjk do need a forward...

Fenerliyim
04-27-2006, 02:20 AM
Beşiktaş'a mı geliyor?


Anderlecht'te forma giyen Serhat Akın, "Beşiktaş'ın beni izlediğini biliyorum. Hatta Gent maçında bir yetkili de tribünde olacak" dedi


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Serhat yakın takipte

Anderlecht'te forma giyen Serhat Akın, "Beşiktaş'ın beni izlediğini biliyorum. Hatta Gent maçında bir yetkili de tribünde olacak" dedi.

FENER'E GİTMEDİM
Belçika'nın Anderlecht takımında forma giyen Serhat Akın, Beşiktaş'ın kendisini transfer etmek için uğraştığını söyledi. Milli futbolcu, F.Bahçe'ye transfer olduğu yönündeki haberlerin gerçeği yansıtmadığını ifade ederken, "Beşiktaş'ın beni istediğini biliyorum. Hatta bu haftaki Gent
maçında bir yetkili tribünde olacak" yorumunu yaptı.

ŞARTLARA BAKARIZ
Anderlecht formasıyla 10 gol atan ve 11 asist yapan Serhat Akın, Beşiktaş'ın kendisini istediği yönündeki haberler nedeniyle F.Bahçe'nin yeniden devreye girdiğini söyledi. Milli yıldız, "Gerçi bu konuda bana gelen resmi bir teklif yok ama sağlam kaynaklardan bu bilgileri alıyorum. Şu anda bir karar vermedim. Şartlar ne gösterir bilemem" diye konuştu.


I hope he wont go to BJK, but this is a business world and he has to go where he has to go, as long as it isnt GS i am fine.

SIN wasnt Serhat ur cousin or something like that???????

SiN
05-02-2006, 03:33 AM
I do hope he goes to BJK because he has been on the low down in Anderlecht ever since his transfer from Fenerbahce. I want to see him play in the TSL and i think besiktas would be a great club for him altough GS would be a great choice aswell but GS do have plenty of forwards.

And yes he is my cousin, but i havent spoken to him since the Transfer.

Fenerliyim
05-07-2006, 01:19 AM
Kartal'ın sürprizi!


Anderlecht'te şampiyonluk kupasını kaldıran milli futbolcu "Çok cazip bir teklif geldi. Ancak kararımı vermedim" dedi.


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Gelirim ama

Belçika Birinci Ligi'nde formasını giydiği Anderlecht'te şampiyonluk kupasını kaldırarak yurt dışında şampiyon olan ilk futbolcu olmanın sevincini yaşayan Serhat Akın, Beşiktaş yolunda. Siyah-beyazlı kulübün kendisini istediğini belirten yıldız futbolcu, "Beşiktaş'tan cazip bir teklif aldım. Ancak henüz karar veremedim" ifadesini kullandı.

BAŞKA
TEKLİF DE VAR
Şampiyonlar Ligi'ne doğrudan katılma hakkını kazanan Anderlecht'ten ayrılmak konusunda da kararsız kaldığını belirten milli futbolcu, "Başka kulüplerden de teklif var. Anderlecht seneye Şampiyonlar Ligi'nde oynayacak. Benim de amacım orada mücadele etmekti. Bu yüzden acele karar vermek istemiyorum" ifadesini kullandı.

A. HASSAN ANLAŞTI
Ahmed Hassan'ın da geçen hafta Belçika'ya gelerek Anderlecht'li yöneticilerle görüştüğünü söyleyen Serhat, "Ben Anderlecht ile anlaştı diye duydum. Kalırsam onunla oynamaktan memnun olurum" dedi.




SiN, how can u not talk to him, he is a famous player. Tell him not to go to BJK. Can i have his #?

Fenerliyim
05-09-2006, 12:18 PM
Transferi konusunda çarpıcı açıklamalar yapan milli futbolcu, menacerinin Beşiktaş ile görüştüğünü ifade ederken şöyle konuştu: “Benim, Beşiktaş’a gelmem için çok özel maddi ve manevi şartlar oluşması gerekir. Çünkü Anderlecht, 1 yıl daha sözleşmem bulunmasına rağmen, 3 yıllık yeni mukavele için bastırıyor. 11 asist ve 10 golle, beklenenden daha iyi bir performans gösterdim.''

Türkiye’den uzak olduğu için milli takımdan da ayrı kaldığını vurgulayan Serhat sözlerini şöyle noktaladı: “Çok ciddi bir sakatlık geçirdim. Bu nedenle Fatih Terim hoca beni kadroya çağırmadı. Doğrusunu söylemek gerekirse, Avrupa’da futbol oynamak çok daha cazip. Çünkü burada ne küfür var ne de taraftar baskısı...'' Marsilya ve Paris Saint Germain’in talip olduğu Akın, futbol hayatına Fenerbahçe’de nokta koymak istediğini belirtti.

Kocum benim

Fenerliyim
05-17-2006, 11:59 PM
Beşiktaş'tan Nobre bombası


Siyah-beyazlılar transfer bombasını patlatıp, F.Bahçeli Nobre'yi renklerine bağladılar. Brezilyalı futbolcuyla üç yıllığına anlaşan Beşiktaş, Nobre'ye yıllık 1 milyon 250 bin dolar ödeyecek.


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Kartal'dan 2. Gol

Türkiye Kupası'nı ezeli rakibinin elinden kapan siyah-beyazlılar, Marcio Nobre'yi de transfer ederek Fenerbahçe'ye bir gol daha attı.

Transfer sezonuna fırtına giren Beşiktaş, durulacak gibi de gözükmüyor. Siyah-beyazlılar, 1.5 ay önce haber gönderip, "Sezon sonunda seni takımda görmek istiyoruz. Eğer Fenerbahçe istemezse kapımız sana her zaman açık" dedikleri Marcio Nobre ile kesin olarak anlaşmaya vardılar. Sarı-lacivertli kulüpte kiralık sözleşmesi biten ve dün sabah Fenerbahçeli yöneticilerle masaya oturan Brezilyalı futbolcu anlaşma sağlayamayınca siyah- beyazlı kulübe yöneldi.

BONSERVİSİMİ ALIN
Öğleden sonra Beşiktaşlı yöneticilerle bir araya gelen Nobre, "Kulübümle görüşün. Benim için sorun yok. İmzayı atarım. Ancak artık kiralık oynamak istemiyorum. Ait olduğum kulüpte forma giymek istiyorum" şartıyla siyah-beyazlılara 'evet' dedi. Brezilyalı futbolcuyla yıllığı 1 milyon 250 bin dolara 3 senelik prensip anlaşması yapan ikinci başkan Murat Aksu, rotayı Nobre'nin kulübü Cruzeiro'ya çevirdi.

KONTROLDEN GEÇTİ
Sambacının bonservisini isteyen Aksu, 2.5 milyon dolara Brezilyalı kulüple de el sıkıştı. İki taraf paranın ödeme koşullarını görüştü ve anlaşma sağlandı. Nobre gece Acıbadem Hastanesi'nde Dr. Yalçın Yavuzer tarafından kontrolden geçirildi. Sambacının bugün imza Beşiktaş'a imza atması bekleniyor. Haberi duyan Fenerbahçe yönetiminin, fiyat arttırmak için girişimlerde bulunduğu dile getirildi.


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BJK will sign Nobre on a 3 year contract and will pay him 1 million 250 thousand dollars per year. But they will first have to buy him from his team, Cruzeiro. BJK and Cruziero have agreed on 2.5 million dollars.

But after FB heard this news they went to go and are trying to get the price to go higher.






I hope he doesnt sign with BJK. Nobre is one of favorite players on FB and it will be very awkward to see him on BJK

SiN
05-18-2006, 01:41 PM
I think he did eventually end up signing that 3 year contract with BJK. Let me check it up :)

Fenerliyim
05-18-2006, 03:02 PM
yea it is official. After FB let him go, he signed a 3 year contract with BJK.

http://www.bjk.com.tr/tr/haberler.php?h_no=7787

I cant believe he would do this. What a traitor

Yeniceri
05-18-2006, 07:40 PM
First off in response to the original post of " why do other teams want our garbage " I think the answer is rather obvious. Nobre is an excellent player who apparently didn't fit into Fenerbahce's plans, so whats wrong with Besiktas signing him if he fits into their plans? Its rather natural for a team with a smaller transfer budget to get an excellent player who couldn't make the Fener sqaud. Fenerbahce with their excellent financial situation is looking to get a much better striker than Nobre so in your opinion this makes Nobre garbage? lol

As far as people freaking out about Nobre going to Besiktas, its just childish. Nobre was not offered a contract at Fener, I repeat WAS NOT offered a contract. What did you expect the guy to do? Sit outside the stadium for the rest of his life and hope they offer him a contract? I guess after being fired from his job you can call the guy a traitor for finding another job to feed his family.

Fenerliyim
05-18-2006, 08:04 PM
Nobre is a good player not excellent. He needs a good midfielder which can find him and pass the ball to him so he can score. And with Tumer and Hassan gone u dont have any midfielders that can do that. Nobre shined because of Alex and u need another Alex for him to be good at BJK.

First of all after seeing him in FB uniform for the past couple years, it is awkward to see him in a BJK uniform. Nobre could have gone to any other team in Turkey other than Trabzon, GS, BJK and i would not have a problem with that. Its that he went to a rival club is what bothers me.


The trash thing is when ever FB decides not to resign a player all our rival clubs will jump on the unsigned player trying to sign him. At one point BJK had 8 ex-FB players. It is like we are playing against ourselves. What i dont get is why do u guys sign second rate players when we sign first rate players. You will not be able to compete with us when we play each other. If we get stars like R.Carlos, Morientes, Campbell and etc. and u have Nobre as ur best player u guys will not be able to compete

Yeniceri
05-18-2006, 08:44 PM
Nobre is a good player not excellent. He needs a good midfielder which can find him and pass the ball to him so he can score. And with Tumer and Hassan gone u dont have any midfielders that can do that. Nobre shined because of Alex and u need another Alex for him to be good at BJK.

First of all after seeing him in FB uniform for the past couple years, it is awkward to see him in a BJK uniform. Nobre could have gone to any other team in Turkey other than Trabzon, GS, BJK and i would not have a problem with that. Its that he went to a rival club is what bothers me.


The trash thing is when ever FB decides not to resign a player all our rival clubs will jump on the unsigned player trying to sign him. At one point BJK had 8 ex-FB players. It is like we are playing against ourselves. What i dont get is why do u guys sign second rate players when we sign first rate players. You will not be able to compete with us when we play each other. If we get stars like R.Carlos, Morientes, Campbell and etc. and u have Nobre as ur best player u guys will not be able to compete

Gauging the skill of a player is always relative. If you look at the quality of strikers in the Turkish league and then look at the finances of Besiktas in going after a foreign stiker, Nobre is excellent. Compared to Anelka he is decent, but since Besiktas can't bring in a player of Anelka's quality, holding him to that standard is ridiculous.

Back to Nobre being a traitor. You're saying he could have gone to any other team in Turkey aside from T.S., G.S. and B.J.K. I'm wondering if you're actually being serious here, what team in the Turkish league aside from these 3 teams would be able to offer Nobre the type of money he deserves. Are you basically saying Nobre should take millions of dollars less than his skill warrants and play for a smaller club just not to upset the fans of the team that basically fired him? Come on man.

Your next paragraph deals with why BJK takes the players who couldn't fit into your squad and why they don't go out and get GRADE A players like Fener. Answering this question isn't all too difficult. I'm sure if BJK could possibly afford the types of players you're mentioning they'd do it. Fenerbahce is so far ahead of the other Turkish teams at this point it is impossible for a team like Besiktas to spend the type of money you're saying they should spend. So what do teams like Besiktas do? They do what they can, sign the best possible players they can afford. If that happens to be players who didn't fit into the Fener squad so be it. The soccer system is capitalistic in nature, so teams with the proper infrastructure and finances will always use that advantage and teams who are behind will try to counter with smart cheaper transfers.

Its odd that as a Fener fan you're complaining about this situation. The fact the other teams are taking the players who didn't fit into your squad is actually proof of the greatness of Fener at this point and how far ahead they are.

By the way I'm a Besiktas fan, and even as a fan of a rival club its impossible not to admit how far ahead Fenerbahce is. No need to hate them for it either, Aziz Yildirim did a wonderful job with Fenerbahce. They ran a tight ship, made some excellent business decisions and they are where they are. Bravo to them, I hope Aziz Yildirim will be an example to other teams that will bring the Turkish league to greater heights.

Fenerliyim
05-18-2006, 09:05 PM
The reason i want other teams to get better players is so that this league can be competitve and so that our teams can do well in Europe. If we do well in Europe than more quality players will start coming to our league, not only to the Big 4 but the smaller clubs as well.

Yeniceri
05-18-2006, 09:13 PM
Fener the problem is Fener is so far ahead of the other teams that they buy all the best Turkish players in sight. Obviously not all these good Turkish players are going to fit into their system so other teams are picking up the ones who are left out. For example Kemal, he sits the bench at Fener, with proper playing time we just don't know how well he'll develope. For a teams like BJK, GS and TS Kemal would be a good signing. Just because Fener releases a player doesn't mean he isn't up to par, Kemal for example will never play over Alex. Considering the talent level of Alex which is far above the other midfielders in Turkey this really isn't a knock on Kemal nor does it make him garbage.

So if Fener is buying up all the good players in the league ( which is their right to do ) the other teams sometimes have to wait for those players to leave Fener to pick them up. There is only a finite amount of talent in our league bro and you go for who ever you think is best regardless of what team they played for.

Fenerliyim
05-18-2006, 09:15 PM
See Kemal is a person who sits on the bench unlike nobre who was an important piece in our squad. I dont see Kemal as a traitor but Nobre is

Yeniceri
05-18-2006, 09:28 PM
Also since I'm new to the board I should have made a formal introduction. My name is Musa.

Fenerliyim
05-18-2006, 11:49 PM
Welcome and it is good to have another BJK fan. See if u can get more to come and join.

SiN
05-19-2006, 01:12 AM
Welcome to SFN musa, are u turkish? My name is sinan :)

Fenerliyim
05-19-2006, 01:20 AM
y wouldnt he be turkish????

SiN
05-19-2006, 01:32 AM
i dont know, it was a pretty stupid question to ask i guess :lol:

Yeniceri
05-20-2006, 03:58 PM
Its not a stupid question at all, yea odds are with a name like Musa and a screen name like Yeniceri 90% chance I'd be Turkish lol
But there is always that 10% chance I'm Algerian or something like that.
Incase you're still curious I'm 100% Turkish.