Judge sentences Black man to only 100 days in prison for murdering a white man

[ulster21]

"Judge Rules Victim Provoked Death With Racial Slur"
This is nuts, I guess if someone calls you a racial slur you have the right to kill them :yell: What is the world coming too??

http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/7791346/detail.html?subid=22100441&qs=1;bp=t

[Pazaz77]

"Judge Rules Victim Provoked Death With Racial Slur"
This is nuts, I guess if someone calls you a racial slur you have the right to kill them :yell: What is the world coming too??

http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/7791346/detail.html?subid=22100441&qs=1;bp=t


well its not like the guy meant to kill him i mean it said all he did was punch him, its not like he shot him with a gun or anything the guy probably didnt think it was going kill him.

[FAJA]

Surely murder is murder (or manslaughter) whether it was provoked or not, the end result is the same. Perhaps it's possible to say that "he didn't mean to kill him, he only meant to punch him" but even so, he still did and I would have thought he'd get longer than that just for assault alone.

[ulster21]

If this were the other way around the perpatrator would have gotten life in prison. There is a complete double standard when it comes to so-called "hate crimes".

[Dutchfan]

If this were the other way around the perpatrator would have gotten life in prison. There is a complete double standard when it comes to so-called "hate crimes".Although not in YOUR world right, you white supremacist? The intent to kill was not there, so I have no problem with it. You do, of course, you hate-monger. I suppose if you had YOUR way, there would BE nothing on this planet in terms of humans but "white" people, right, skinhead?

[Dutchfan]

"Judge Rules Victim Provoked Death With Racial Slur"
This is nuts, I guess if someone calls you a racial slur you have the right to kill them :yell: What is the world coming too??

http://www.thehawaiichannel.com/news/7791346/detail.html?subid=22100441&qs=1;bp=t
I suppose you're going to try to tell us all, from within your white-colored world, that a white man has NEVER killed a black person and then NOT suffered any punishment because of it, in the entire history of the earth? Is THAT what you're implying, here? 'Cause if it is, you've got even bigger problems inside your head than I thought you did, and that really is saying something!!

[Fenerliyim]

This guy should still be given life in prison. If he meant it or not he killed the guy.

[Dutchfan]

This guy should still be given life in prison. If he meant it or not he killed the guy.He hit the guy. Once. How the hell was he to know that that one blow was going to kill him? Life in prison? For THAT?!? I don't think so!! And obviously the judge didn't think so, either!!

[Fenerliyim]

The other guy was drunk he didnt know what he was saying so he has no right to punch him. He should be liable for wat he did. He killed a person on purpose or by accident doesnt matter. And its not like if he lightly punched him looks like he punched him pretty hard and trying to do some damage and i am sure he would of punched the guy more if he hadnt died. He should of just called the cops to handle this situation, why did he go punch the guy. Just cause someone says nigger to you doesnt mean u can go and punch him. Two bad things dont make 1 good thing.

[Dutchfan]

The other guy was drunk he didnt know what he was saying so he has no right to punch him. He should be liable for wat he did. He killed a person on purpose or by accident doesnt matter. And its not like if he lightly punched him looks like he punched him pretty hard and trying to do some damage and i am sure he would of punched the guy more if he hadnt died. He should of just called the cops to handle this situation, why did he go punch the guy. Just cause someone says nigger to you doesnt mean u can go and punch him. Two bad things dont make 1 good thing.And where did you get your reasoning skills? From the people who were in the jury for the "O.J. Trial" a decade ago? I never stated that the African-American fellow was in the right, but given what I read about the situation, I never would have sentenced a guy like that to jail for life for taking one punch at a guy. You have to be out of your mind to honestly believe punching somebody once, even if it did result in death, should get somebody a life sentence in prison. Probably the drunk idiot who goaded the other guy had some sort of condition that made him susceptible, but how was the African-American supposed to know that? Bottom line, the African-American was wrong to have punched the now dead guy, but putting him behind bars for life for that would DEFINITELY be a case of "the punishment NOT fitting the crime"!!

[Fenerliyim]

If he didnt know, that is considered negligence so he is still guilty of murder. And if the guy didnt die the guy would have probably punched him more. He just knocked the guy out with one punch. What if the black guy was huge build up guy and the drunk was some scrawny white guy. His punches could be as harmful as a bullet that is shot. If I was the family i would appeal this decision.

[Pape]

20 years ought to teach him a lesson. But than again, I would want the person that killed me dead and never out of prison.

[Pape]

Ohh my bad it says a 100 days. WTF!!!!

[Fenerliyim]

Dutchfan you do know that 1 life sentence equals 30 years right?

[Pazaz77]

i completley agree with dutchfan about this issue. I know all of you are saying it doesnt matter if it was a punch and it wasnt intentional he still killed him. but if the victim did call the black man, from alabama a nigger, then i certainly think the guy had a right to punch him. it doesnt matter if the victim was drunk, if i come in here and insult all you, your religion, and ethnicity lots of people would be pissed at me..wouldnt you??? its the same thing here, the black guy isnt gonna care if the white guy is drunk or not hes still gonna punch him and he was provoked there is no doubt about that. Do i feel bad he killed someone? yes of course but i dont completley blame him for his actions, because being from alabama he probably had a grandparent, or even a parent who suffered loads of racial abuse in the 1900's.

[Fenerliyim]

Just cause ur insulted doesnt mean you have the right to physically hurt them. There is no law saying that if he calls u nigger u can punch him. But there is a law for killing people and he killed a person and should have to go through the punishment fair or not.

[Dutchfan]

Just cause ur insulted doesnt mean you have the right to physically hurt them. There is no law saying that if he calls u nigger u can punch him. But there is a law for killing people and he killed a person and should have to go through the punishment fair or not.All I have to say to your line of reasoning is: I certainly hope that you're NEVER called to jury in a murder trial!!

[Fenerliyim]

Me 2. Who in their right mind would want to be on a jury for any case anyway?

[Dutchfan]

Me 2. Who in their right mind would want to be on a jury for any case anyway?Well, SOME people (such as myself) would consider it a privilege to be able to serve on a jury. You just never know what you're going to get while on one, though.

[Fenerliyim]

yea get threatned to be killed if you dont vote innocent for the guy in the mafia.

1. you are taken away from work and your manager might choose not to pay your salary, so then you get $5 a day for being on the jury.

2. It might be a hung jury and you might be there for a long time.

3. If the case is high profile they might confine you to a hotel room which you are not allowed read the news, watch the news, talk on the telephone, or anything that can get you biased.

Having jury duty sucks, thats why everybody tries to escape from it.

[BRISTOLUK]

If this were the other way around the perpatrator would have gotten life in prison. There is a complete double standard when it comes to so-called "hate crimes".


Really?
I thought all the statistics show you're far more likely to get custodial sentences and (where it operates) death sentences if you're black.

What happens if one of those Trinidadians dies from one of those punches you have talked in advance of giving them?

[valdanito_10]

nice thread. :rolleyes:

sorry to ruin the fun.