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Saraj Fanático
03-11-2006, 04:40 PM
http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/03/11/milosovic/index.html

Thank god he is now in Hell. He has stolen thousand's of life's. He took one of my relative's and now I am so happy to know that he is with the devil burning in hell. Now for the Serb's who feel that Milosevic was a hero or something let me tell you something, he betrayed you too. He only wanted power without caring about the need's of his own people. Serbia was bombed because of his action's in Kosovo. All ex Yugoslavian's should be celebrating this day. He is one of the men who didn't want a united Yugoslavia of Bosnian's, Croat's and Serb's. The Serb's too had kicked him out of his office and I apprechiate that. He was the cancer of Yugoslavia. Now we need Karadzic and Mladic joining him, so that wound's between Bosnian's, Croat's, Serb's can heal.

theennis
03-11-2006, 05:03 PM
meni je licno zao zato sto je umro... on zasluzuje da pati za svoje zlocine a ne da se ovako lako izvuce... isto kao sto su se izvukli tudjman i alija... sve su to zlocinci... jedino je tito heroj... ma sta ljudi pricali...

Saraj Fanático
03-11-2006, 05:20 PM
Meni je zao sto niko mu nije metak u guzicu strpo. Mater mu jebem.

philipas
03-11-2006, 05:29 PM
good riddance....

may he rot in hell...

ARIANIT_C
03-11-2006, 06:12 PM
Him and his army killed many of inocent civilian albanians in Kosova,
His point was to force Albanians leave their houses and to left their homeland in Kosova, so that him bastard could kept kosova into his country..
he was the worst terrorist ever, he terrorize ppl,and land and allways tried to steal land from others... what a dickhead..:mad2:

Hell is a little better place 4 him, he deserves worser!



"Ame Kosova pergjithmon toke Arbanase

Shqiperia - Kosovah Atdheu yn Illyria"

ulster21
03-11-2006, 06:23 PM
R.I.P. Milosevic

Gerasim
03-11-2006, 06:33 PM
R.I.P. Milosevic

The poor man suffered in his cell,
they didn't even lett him get a treatement for his illness

Rest in peace

Bosnian Unit
03-11-2006, 09:18 PM
Milosevic's legacy of discord

By Tim Judah
Balkans analyst


Slobodan Milosevic was once dubbed by the Western media "the butcher of the Balkans".

Thousands died in the wars Slobodan Milosevic started, and lost In one of his early speeches, in 1988, before hundreds of thousands of Serbs, he declaimed: "We enter every battle... with the aim of winning t."

But, in the end, the Serbs lost all their wars. They lost in Croatia, in Bosnia and in Kosovo.

The Croatian war claimed some 20,000 lives, the Bosnian war 100,000 and the Kosovo war some 10,000.

Millions of lives were shattered. The region is still far from overcoming the legacies of the wars, which he was so instrumental in starting.

And yet, to judge from the reactions from across the region, few are happy that Milosevic has gone. Indeed, there is anger. And this is understandable.

Saint or sinner

Since 2001, Milosevic has been in court at the Yugoslav war crimes tribunal in The Hague. His trial was nearing its end. His death means that he has escaped judgement.

Now there will never be a judgement from outside the region, which former Yugoslavs might one day be able to look to as impartial

This single fact is a tragedy. It means that, for some, Milosevic will remain a virtual saint, who set out to save the Serbs from their enemies - while for others he will remain a force for evil who destroyed Yugoslavia and set out to commit genocide.

His death means that now there will never be a judgement from outside the region, which former Yugoslavs might one day be able to look to as impartial.

In the region though, and in the short term, the passing of Slobodan Milosevic will make little difference.

Bosnia, Serbia, Kosovo, Montenegro and to a lesser extent other parts of the former Yugoslavia, are all still struggling with the legacies of the Yugoslav wars.

The international status of Kosovo and Montenegro remains to be settled, quite apart from the long-term devastating economic fallout of conflict.

Martyr claim

Milosevic was not, contrary to what many believe, a nationalist. He was a political opportunist.


Slobodan Milosevic's contribution to history will forever be disputed
Ever since his fall in 2000, he has also been a figure from the past. He no longer had any significant political influence in Serbia or the rest of the Balkans.

Some of his former political allies will certainly seek to capitalise on his death, by claiming him as a political martyr.

They are already pointing out that the tribunal recently refused to let him go to Moscow for medical treatment.

Indeed, as Ivica Dacic, a leader of Mr Milosevic's now tiny Socialist Party of Serbia has said: "It is of major importance for the future of our country that through his defence and the fact he died without being convicted, Milosevic had managed to defend national and state interests."

Shock today

Many Serbs may reflect though that their country remains impoverished thanks to his policies - and soon Kosovo, which they regard as the cradle of their history and culture will probably be awarded its independence, against Serbia's wishes.

Slobodan Milosevic shaped the lives and times of all of the people of the former Yugoslavia. But his time was gone.

Today they will be in shock. Tomorrow will be life as normal.

But, his death means his legacy will be forever disputed and always a potential source of discord between former enemies.

Bosnian Unit
03-11-2006, 10:17 PM
Meybe he died becouse of this........http://www.geocities.com/veca5ca/curva_del_ponte-slobodan_milosevic.jpg

They still didnt say how and why, so i was just giving my opinion :lol: !!

Napred_Plavi
03-11-2006, 10:21 PM
Jebem ti mater balija!:evil:


ZIVELA SRBIJA , ZIVELA REPUBLIKA SRPSKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ps. Milosevic thread should be In scg forum

Gerasim
03-11-2006, 10:24 PM
Meybe he died becouse of this........http://www.geocities.com/veca5ca/curva_del_ponte-slobodan_milosevic.jpg

They still didnt say how and why, so i was just giving my opinion :lol: !!


Bosnian Unit :mad2:

I respected you as a member on SCF

But now you lost my respect by posting such a filthy Picture!!!:yell: :boo:

***king Alija Izetbegovic Cocksucker

Saraj Fanático
03-11-2006, 11:20 PM
Why are the serb's mad? Don't they know that Milosevic had screwed them over too? Milosevic doesn't care about Serbia. He only wanted power for himself and land. For the love of god he killed thousand's of Women, Children and Men. Why praise him? He put Serb's under bombardment while he hid in a nice save location while Serb's payed the price which was suppose to. So why be loyal to him?


I would hate Izetbegovic too if he had not called for cease fire between ABIH and the Republica Srbska armies. Alija only defended he never attack any other region.

CroatD
03-11-2006, 11:30 PM
Thank god this bastard is finally dead. To bad its 20 years to late.

Ero
03-12-2006, 12:20 AM
they caught mladic, babic and milosevic both die in only a week and if karadzic dies or gets caught in the next week, we know that God is finally giving vengeance to the cetnik scum of the earth

Gerasim
03-12-2006, 12:24 AM
they caught mladic, babic and milosevic both die in only a week and if karadzic dies or gets caught in the next week, we know that God is finally giving vengeance to the cetnik scum of the earth

What about the Ustasa scum of the earth,
ever tought about that

boris4c
03-12-2006, 01:37 AM
lol they didnt even catch mladic and they never will.. nor will they catch karadzic.. babic died on his own decision and for milosevic well we dont know yet

Pape
03-12-2006, 02:11 AM
I'm not hearing more of thank god alija, tudman, and milosevic are all finally dead and 20 years overdue...

Pape
03-12-2006, 02:14 AM
Wait, I have something else to say. This is like the perfect ending the United States has wanted for us. Putting such quotes as 'Butcher of the Balkans' and "the bloody story of Slobodan Milosevic" and getting us to read them and agree with them. Wow, they are doing alot of things right and wow are we stupid.

Look at that shit, even Bosnian Unit is agreeing with the western media.

Bosnian Unit
03-12-2006, 02:42 AM
Wait, I have something else to say. This is like the perfect ending the United States has wanted for us. Putting such quotes as 'Butcher of the Balkans' and "the bloody story of Slobodan Milosevic" and getting us to read them and agree with them. Wow, they are doing alot of things right and wow are we stupid.

Look at that shit, even Bosnian Unit is agreeing with the western media.


In this case i do agree !! Plus when i say Western propaganda i mostly think of American propaganda, becouse its like they own the West and most people there agree with ther bullshit. But that link i posted is from www.bbc.co.uk :) !! So its not American !!

I sow with my eys, what this guy or those who where loyal to him where doing in my country. Thats the reason i agree what UK's media is saying !!

Slobodan Milosevic started everything in Kosovo, and everything will end in Kosovo !! In a matter of fact its reall close to be done, they will become independent and its over.

Bosnian Unit
03-12-2006, 02:48 AM
Jebem ti mater balija!:evil:


ZIVELA SRBIJA , ZIVELA REPUBLIKA SRPSKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ps. Milosevic thread should be In scg forum

MODERATORS, do you see this ?

Pape
03-12-2006, 02:56 AM
Don't get me wrong, I am a peace promoter but I can explain to you why our war turned out like it did and why serbia is sucking a cock for it. I am not going to post it now because I am pissed. NOO I don't give a ***k if Milosevic died but there is alot more to this war than any people here no or want to admit.

Saraj Fanático
03-12-2006, 03:40 AM
Like I said before guy's. Milosevic screwed over Serbia too. All he did in his Presidency was ethnic cleansing. Now how can sommeone say "RIP Milosevic" when it was the same guy who screwed that individual over too! Alija is not considered criminal since he defended Bosnia, not attacked other region's.

Napred_Plavi
03-12-2006, 04:43 AM
they caught mladic, babic and milosevic both die in only a week and if karadzic dies or gets caught in the next week, we know that God is finally giving vengeance to the cetnik scum of the earth


They didnt get mladic you kurvetina

Napred_Plavi
03-12-2006, 04:44 AM
Like I said before guy's. Milosevic screwed over Serbia too. All he did in his Presidency was ethnic cleansing. Now how can sommeone say "RIP Milosevic" when it was the same guy who screwed that individual over too! Alija is not considered criminal since he defended Bosnia, not attacked other region's.


He attacked those in his region that were Serb with his muzhadine kurvas

Napred_Plavi
03-12-2006, 04:45 AM
MODERATORS, do you see this ?

PUSI MI KURAC PICKA JEDNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Napred_Plavi
03-12-2006, 04:46 AM
lol they didnt even catch mladic and they never will.. nor will they catch karadzic.. babic died on his own decision and for milosevic well we dont know yet


Babic killed himself because he was a snitch apperently...

Saraj Fanático
03-12-2006, 05:01 AM
He attacked those in his region that were Serb with his muzhadine kurvas

Alija Izetbegovic was not in control of the Mujahideen. The Mujahideen or Jihad fighter's in Bosnia acted on their own behalf. The Mujahideen were looking mostly for revange which is why they slaughtered Serb's since they got tired of seeing Serbian Militarymen rape girl's, kill children, and slaughter innocent muslim's. But I do condemn it.

Napred_Plavi
03-12-2006, 05:20 AM
So basically it was terrorism on your part? Not an army?

Ero
03-12-2006, 05:34 AM
bosniaks were the worst in the bosnian war imo, i mean they brought in terrorists from iran and afghanistan and other arab countries to kill serbs and Croats. Central Bosnia was almost completely cleansed of croats by the bosnians but Croats are the ones that are getting blamed for killing muslims in central bosnia. The croat and bosniak union decision to join sides was a horrible thing and i hate it because now cities at one time 100% croat and catholic are filled with mosques and bosniaks throughout herceg bosna because we are apparently "friends" now.

Pape
03-12-2006, 05:42 AM
All three sides were agressors. All three sides commited ethnic cleansing. The war generals protected their people and killed the others. To their people they are heros to the others they are war criminals.

Bosnia was viewed in this war by the media as the victim. Either side could have been viewed by the media as the victim and today we might be talking differently if they did. Alija is a terrorist who supported a all-islamic government as he has stated in his books. He worked with Iran and other middle eastern countries and the US to bring those terrorists in the country.

Muslims burned churches, Christians burned mosques.

Ero
03-12-2006, 05:54 AM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/HeRcEgOvAc/dup.jpg
see what i mean bosniaks were bigger agressors to croats in bosnia then serbs were to us

and notice zavidovici being named FK Krivaja

Pape
03-12-2006, 06:29 AM
No I lived in Zavidovici, nobody there was displaced. I am a serbian/croat mix and my moms side (Croat) still lives there and nobody touched the Catholic church, orthodox churhc, or mosque there.

ItalianBoy
03-12-2006, 06:37 AM
PUSI MI KURAC PICKA JEDNA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which means, double latte to go please.

Ero
03-12-2006, 06:38 AM
maybe not in the city but villages or towns surroundong it because it shows 3places on that map in the north zavidici area

Pape
03-12-2006, 06:49 AM
Maybe there was alot of war in that area. All three sides fought there and lots of croats ended up in Zepce a small town near by.

theennis
03-12-2006, 11:16 AM
Znate sta, nosite se u picku materinu svi vi ustase, balije i cetnici koji mislite da ste vi bili nevini u ratu. "Oni su nas ubijali, mi nismo nikog bla, bla, bla...". Svi koji su doprinjeli ubijanju u ratu su stoka bez obzira koje su nacionalnosti. Vi ako cete vjerovat toj stoci onda ste stvarno glupi. Kako ne vidite da je i njima ispran mozak od jebenih Amerikanaca. Ameri su nam rasturili drzavu jer im nije odgovarao komunizam. Umjesto da mrzimo njih mi se mrzimo izmedju sebe, a to je upravo njihov cilj. Kako ne mozete da shvatite da smo mi svi Juzni Slaveni. Mi smo isti narod. Ameri su bombardovali Srbiju ali opet Srbi vise mrze Bosance i Hrvate nego njih. Kako ne vidite da im citav svijet okrece ledja. Samo su nama zatvorene oci. Zatvorili ih oni mrznjom koju su usadili u nas. Umjesto da se zajedno borimo protiv njih mi ih podrzavamo. Uvijek je Balkan bio meta svijeta zato sto je lagano manipulirati njime. To je zato sto smo previse naivni. Tito nije bio takav i zato su Amerikanci cekali Njegovu smrt da nam razore bratstvo i jedinstvo. On je bio jedna od rijetkih jakih licnosti koju nisu mogle zavesti njihove lazi. Cim je dosla nova vlada njihovi trikovi su upalili. Kako vise ne mozete da shvatite da smo mi jedan narod. Nema tu Bosanaca, Srba ili Hrvata, samo Jugosloveni.

Pozdrav!

ARBANITAI
03-12-2006, 12:09 PM
Okay now this turns to an Bosnian-serb-croatian Conflict !!! phue

BosnianPlaya
03-12-2006, 02:05 PM
nek je umro usmrdzen milosevic poserem mu se na glavu. :lol:

Saraj Fanático
03-12-2006, 02:55 PM
So basically it was terrorism on your part? Not an army?


The Mujahidden were mostly in group's that would mostly attack Serb forces in villages. They Beheaded every Serb soldier that they cought since they found the war as a war called upon all Muslim's to fight and to drive out the enemy. They wanted to be a answer to those who have lost someone in the war and for those individual's to take up revange against Serb's in common. Driveing out all the Serb's was their plan. They killed people because the Serb's were doing it and nobody care so they decided to let the Serb's know how it feel's to lose someone.


Now do you admit that your fellow Cetnik's are terrorist's? The same guy's that killed 100,000 times more civilian's then Mujahideen? Nope! So why should I go against Mujahideen now?

Saraj Fanático
03-12-2006, 03:14 PM
bosniaks were the worst in the bosnian war imo, i mean they brought in terrorists from iran and afghanistan and other arab countries to kill serbs and Croats. Central Bosnia was almost completely cleansed of croats by the bosnians but Croats are the ones that are getting blamed for killing muslims in central bosnia. The croat and bosniak union decision to join sides was a horrible thing and i hate it because now cities at one time 100% croat and catholic are filled with mosques and bosniaks throughout herceg bosna because we are apparently "friends" now.

WTF? Are you stupid or something? Wasn't it the friendly and peace loving Croat's that bombarded Mostar? Croat's killed more then muslim's since they were armed in the beginning of the war.


About the Mujahideen. They came to fight against those who fight muslim's. They were not sent to Bosnia to murder civilian's even though they did do it at times. They mostly fought serb soldier's. Nothing terrorist about that. While Serb's in the other hand had one aim.....KILL ALL MUSLIM'S AND CROAT'S. They masacred thousand's in Croatia and killed 8,000 young boy's and men in Srebranica. They video taped the killing too. There are hundred's of video's showing Serb sniper's gunning down muslim civilian's in Sarajevo, it also show's Serb rocket's hitting Bosnian building's where civilian's lived in. So who is worse? A small group of foreign fighter's who never attacked Serbia nor Craoatia, or the guy's who killed over 200,000 civilian's?:rolleyes: The Serb military were clearly the number one terrorist's.


The Bosnian Military let Craoat's and Serb's in it to defend all peoples of Bosnia. The army was led by General Dudakovic and was strongly backed and had strong ties with Alija Izetbegovic. Alija strongly supported the unity of Croat's, Bosnian's and Serb's fighting against the occupation.

Pape
03-12-2006, 07:29 PM
WTF? Are you stupid or something? Wasn't it the friendly and peace loving Croat's that bombarded Mostar? Croat's killed more then muslim's since they were armed in the beginning of the war.


About the Mujahideen. They came to fight against those who fight muslim's. They were not sent to Bosnia to murder civilian's even though they did do it at times. They mostly fought serb soldier's. Nothing terrorist about that. While Serb's in the other hand had one aim.....KILL ALL MUSLIM'S AND CROAT'S. They masacred thousand's in Croatia and killed 8,000 young boy's and men in Srebranica. They video taped the killing too. There are hundred's of video's showing Serb sniper's gunning down muslim civilian's in Sarajevo, it also show's Serb rocket's hitting Bosnian building's where civilian's lived in. So who is worse? A small group of foreign fighter's who never attacked Serbia nor Craoatia, or the guy's who killed over 200,000 civilian's?:rolleyes: The Serb military were clearly the number one terrorist's.


The Bosnian Military let Craoat's and Serb's in it to defend all peoples of Bosnia. The army was led by General Dudakovic and was strongly backed and had strong ties with Alija Izetbegovic. Alija strongly supported the unity of Croat's, Bosnian's and Serb's fighting against the occupation.

Bunch of bullshit! You view Serbs as the agressors, when Bosnians were as much as of agressors as anybody else. The media made it seem like Serbs were the only agressors in the war because it is a easy to make people believe that Muslims were the victim.

Alija strongly did not support the unity of Croats, Bosnians, and Serbs. Alijas goal was to ethnicly cleanse the Croats and Serbs and to make a all muslim ruled government. Alija has completely stated this in his book that was writted some 30 years before the war ever even started. Alija got the support of the middle eastern nations exactly for this reason and than they sent the mujahideens to help him out.

So you playing victim is a bunch of childs play and ut is known by most high figures around the world except by the general public. Sooner or later the truth will come out.

And no I do not care if Milosevic died. The fact is that he was guilty of everything he was convicted off but don't sit there and tell me that Alija was not guilty of the same bullshit. Milosevic was doomed to spend the rest of his life in jail and Alija escaped his time alot earlier than Milosevic. And if you support Alija or Milosevic, you are supporting a cold blooded killer.

c3nar1us
03-12-2006, 08:28 PM
Jebem ti mater balija!:evil:


ZIVELA SRBIJA , ZIVELA REPUBLIKA SRPSKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



Ps. Milosevic thread should be In scg forum
You are WARNED 80% one more comment like this and you will be banned

Bosnian Unit
03-12-2006, 10:27 PM
In RS today population is 85% Serb, but before war there was more then a 1.000.000 ( million) Bosniaks and Croats living there. RS is 49% of Bosnian teritory, and today there lives 1.200.000 people and 85% of those are Serbs.

While in Federation of Bosnia & Herzegovina you have 2.500.000 people wich is 51% of Bosnian terotory, and there Bosniaks are 80% of population and rest is Serbs and Croats.

Bosniaks citys before war Banja Luka,Bijeljina,Srebrenica,Foca etc... TODAY 90% OF POPULATION IN THESE CITYS ARE SERBS. WHO FORCE OUT MUSLIMS FROM THERE ? WHO WAS AGRESSOR ? WAS BOSNIAKS AGRESSORS BECOUSE THEY HAVE BEEN FORCED OUT OF THEIR HOMES ?

If Serbs where not agresors then why they attacked Sarajevo, and Sarajevo was under siege most of the war. Why they wanted to conquer that city so bad were is 70% of population Bosniaks/Muslims ? How about Srebrenica where was 80% Bosniaks population, or Visegrad 70% Bosnian population.
Even Banja Luka 60% Bosniak population and Bijeljina 55% Bosniak population.

If Serbs where not agresors then why in the hell THEY ATTACK CITYS WHERE MAJORITY IS MUSLIMS, AND THEY FORCE THEM OUT OF THOSE CITYS AND TODAY ONLY SERBS LIVE THERE ?


Here is what Radovan Karadzic a war criminal said before war in Bosnia !!

..."the road to which you want to take Bosnia and Herzegovina is the same highway of hell which Slovenia and Croatia took. Don't think you won't take Bosnia and Herzegovina to hell and the Muslims into extinction... Muslims can't defend themselves if there is war here"... (Karadžić speaking at the Bosnian parliament, March 4, 1992)


Statements by Biljana Plavšić. Biljana Plavšić, the highest-ranking Serbian politician from the former Yugoslavia who pleaded guilty to a single charge of crimes against humanity and expressed "full remorse" in exchange for prosecutors dropping seven other war crimes charges, including two counts of genocide.

Plavšić's statement, read in her native Serbian, repeated her admission of guilt. It said she had refused to believe stories of atrocities against Bosniaks and Croatians and accepted without question the claims that Serbs were fighting for survival.

"I have now ... accepted that many thousands of innocent people were the victims of organized, systematic efforts from the territory claimed by Serbs...The knowledge that I'm responsible for such human suffering and for soiling the character of my people will always be with me." she said.


The siege of Sarajevo was the longest siege in the history of modern warfare. It lasted from April 5, 1992 to February 29, 1996. It was fought between the forces of the Bosnian government, who had declared independence from Yugoslavia, and the Yugoslav People's Army (JNA) and various Serbian paramilitaries, who sought to secede from the newly-independent Bosnia-Herzegovina. An estimated 12,000 people were killed and another 50,000 wounded during the siege. Reports indicate an average of approximately 329 shell impacts per day during the course of the siege, with a high of 3,777 shell impacts on July 22, 1993. The shellfire caused extensive damage to the city's structures, including civilian and cultural property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_Massacre



Here is just something: Slovenia,Croatia then Bosnia & Herzegovina declear independence and Serbia & Monenegro declear war on these independent nations. Why ? So its obvious Serbia started all this shit, and they where agresors. If Serbs didnt attack these nations there will be no war, they would be just independent nations and good neigboors. Something like Czech republic and Slovakia , they seperete from each other but they didnt fight.

But Serbia wanted great Serbian state, thats was the problem.

Pape
03-12-2006, 10:55 PM
No dont give me your bullshit. I know for example just one village Vozuca where my dad grew up was forced out of their homes and had to evacuvate to the RS. The Bosnian army came in there and burned down all of the churches and all their houses and a monastary. Go there today and you will see 500 foundations of Serb homes.

Than my home city Zavidovici, it used to be 40% Bosnian and like 30% Serb and 30% Croat now its like 95% Bosnian and 2% Arab and 3% other. What have you got to say about that? And those are only cases close to me.

Than you go on to say that Alija supported a Bosnian/Serb/Croat government. Pure utter bullshit. My Dad and my Croat neighboor were forced to go away from home to dig trenches for the Bosnian army not fight for it, not that they would have fought for any side. You and you little BS.

Than the Bosnian part of Sarajevo held under siege, yes that is true but the Serbian and Croatian halfs weren't shot at by the Bosnian army? Pure bullshit. In Sarajevo the Bosnian army violated 19 cease fires, if they wanted to end it so easy and if they were the only ones being tortured so bad than why would they keep fighting?

Here is just something: Slovenia,Croatia then Bosnia & Herzegovina declear independence and Serbia & Monenegro declear war on these independent nations. Why ? So its obvious Serbia started all this shit, and they where agresors. If Serbs didnt attack these nations there will be no war, they would be just independent nations and good neigboors. Something like Czech republic and Slovakia , they seperete from each other but they didnt fight.

But Serbia wanted great Serbian state, thats was the problem.

BS, the reason we had a war is because the United States urged Bosnia to declare independence at the wrong time with the wrong man. All of Europe knew that declaring Bosnia independent at that time would not be a peaceful negotiation but America wanted to come in and screw it up for some of their interests, and I have a theory on why but I won't hurt your feelings. And declaring independence with a man that want a 100% islamic government in a country that is 2/3 serb is never a good idea.

Than again, the first blood shed in the war was Serb blood in Sarajevo. Don't give me your BS radical views. And quit playing the victim, it might the only reason why the Serbs still hate you today.

DedinjeDisciple
03-12-2006, 11:20 PM
Theres a difference between writin sumthin down in a book, and actually doin it.

Im a Serbian. Im also a Muslim. (cant be Bosnian since i never set foot in Bosnia).

I am man enough to admit that Serbia was the main aggressor. Obviously not the only one tho. But when ppl are gettin attacked, instinct is to fight back.

I have mixed feelings bout Milosevics "death". The victims of his sick crimes will never see real justice, as the verdict was never made. Uninformed, Serbians will see this as a reason to hail him as some kind of martyr, while other serbs will not give a ***k.

The guy was mentally disabled. His parents comitted suicide, just like Hitler. And he was undoubtedly the main player in the breakup of Yugoslavia. Again, not the only one.

Mladic and Karadzic will be handed over. Theres no doubt about that. If Milosevic can be handed over these mother***kers can be handed in too. All ex-yu ppl have to move on from this, and words cetnik n ustasa have to be erased from our brains.

For me, the simplest way for us to get over this cloud hangin over our heads is to round up all those convicted of war crimes, and hang them from fukin trees.

And by that I dont only mean Serbs/Croats/Bosnians. I also include the western ***kers who allowed this to happen. eg Lord Holbrooke, Paddy Ashdown etc.

Sarajevo was attacked for over 3 years. 3 fukin years. How can any1 let this happen, without having alterior motives.

Yugoslavia was one of the strongest countries in Europe. A country that i loved with a passion. The west wanted to destroy us and they did.

DedinjeDisciple
03-12-2006, 11:23 PM
Oh yeah, Milosevic was never a true Serbian representative. He NEVER actually won an election without rigging it. The Serbian ppl were cheated and their rights taken away by the Milosevic regime.

Saraj Fanático
03-13-2006, 12:17 AM
Bunch of bullshit! You view Serbs as the agressors, when Bosnians were as much as of agressors as anybody else. The media made it seem like Serbs were the only agressors in the war because it is a easy to make people believe that Muslims were the victim.

Who the ***k started the war in the first place? Alija? Nope. Milosevic and his group of Cetnik retard's. Alija defended Bosnia, he never started the war. And why on god's green earth would the West want to make muslim's look like the victim's. Today in the western states the Muslim's are labled as Terrorist's and you know this. When is the last time a nonmuslim state was attacked by the West?

Alija strongly did not support the unity of Croats, Bosnians, and Serbs. Alijas goal was to ethnicly cleanse the Croats and Serbs and to make a all muslim ruled government. Alija has completely stated this in his book that was writted some 30 years before the war ever even started. Alija got the support of the middle eastern nations exactly for this reason and than they sent the mujahideens to help him out.

Have you heared the conferance before the war in Bosnia where Karadzic said that the muslim people will take the same "HIghway to hell" as the croat's? Well, there Alija call's upon Serbia to reach it's Democratic values. Why would Izetbegovic allow General Dudakovic to have Serb's and Croat's in his army? A army which was under the command of Alija. Did Dudakovic's army ever attack children women and young men who happen to be serb? Islamic Nation's helped in the beginning. Then Bosnian forces started making their own weapon's and gun's.

Again, Mujahideen and Alija's army are two different thing's. The Mujahideen were men around the Islamic World who came to kick out Serb's. They were not called upon by Alija. They came because many Islamic leader's called for a Holy Jihad against the Serb's. The Mujaideen killed Serb soldier's mostly. They have killed Civilian's too but the number of killed Serb civilian's is nothing close to the amount your Cetnik's killed. The Mujahideen would have killed many more thousand's of Serb's if they wanted a Serb free Bosnia. Like the Cetnik's wanted a Muslim free "Greater Serbia" Bullshit. :rolleyes:

PS: Alija wrote his book before he become President. After he wrote that book he joined the Party of Democratic Action (Stranka Demokratske Akcije, or SDA) in 1989. It had a largely Muslim character similarly, the other principal ethnic groups in Bosnia, the Serbs and Croats, also established ethnically based parties. (The Communist Party renamed itself the Party of Democratic Changes.) The SDA won the largest share of the vote, 33% of the seats, with the next runners-up being nationalist ethnic parties representing Serbs and Croats. Alija did not create the "Greater Bosnia".

So you playing victim is a bunch of childs play and ut is known by most high figures around the world except by the general public. Sooner or later the truth will come out.

Yes the truth is coming out. The Sebrenica tape's are the start. The US allowed Serb's to kill us for 3 year's. 3 year's of no mercy. The ABIH forces were the only force we had. Why did the US or western staes wait three year's if they loved us so much as you say they do? they actually saved Serb's in Banja Luka because Dudakovic was making the final push to Banja Luka to destroy Republika Srbska. Then the US warned us and told Alija to call off the attack. And he did. Why did Alija stop if he wanted to kill all Serb's? Quit making your own stories up. Europe and the US wanted Muslim's gone from Europe which is why they just stared at the TV watching 200,000 people die without any help.

And no I do not care if Milosevic died. The fact is that he was guilty of everything he was convicted off but don't sit there and tell me that Alija was not guilty of the same bullshit. Milosevic was doomed to spend the rest of his life in jail and Alija escaped his time alot earlier than Milosevic. And if you support Alija or Milosevic, you are supporting a cold blooded killer.

Alija never commanded the Bosnian forces to "Shoot at everything you see" like Karadzic and his lover Milosevic. The Mujahideen are not Alija's army. They are a group of foreign fighter's who came to expell the Agressor's but yes some of them have killed. But did the mujahideen attack Serbia? Did they rape? I know that they have shot dead some serb's in Villages because your dumbass Cetnik's were doing it. If the Cetnik's stopped then maybe the Mujahideen wouldn't be driven to kill those people. What goes around comes around that's what the Mujahideen said before gunning the Serb's down. Maybe Milosevic and Karadzic should never have killed us first.

Saraj Fanático
03-13-2006, 12:24 AM
BS, the reason we had a war is because the United States urged Bosnia to declare independence at the wrong time with the wrong man. All of Europe knew that declaring Bosnia independent at that time would not be a peaceful negotiation but America wanted to come in and screw it up for some of their interests, and I have a theory on why but I won't hurt your feelings. And declaring independence with a man that want a 100% islamic government in a country that is 2/3 serb is never a good idea.

Than again, the first blood shed in the war was Serb blood in Sarajevo. Don't give me your BS radical views. And quit playing the victim, it might the only reason why the Serbs still hate you today.

LOL!- Please watch the conferance where Karadzic say's, "Doslo bi nestanak muslimanskog naroda" refering to what would happen if Bosnia declared independent. Serb's attacked all Civilian's.

BosnianPlaya
03-13-2006, 12:31 AM
yeah, serbs had all the weapons from ex-Yu and Dudakovic still was going to drive your pussy asses out, i don't know why Serbs hate the U.S, if it wasn't for them, Serbs would've got the ass whoopin' in Banja Luka and "RS" would've been taken out, so don't think your soldiers are heroes for killing and raping civilians, because that's all they did.. Here's a video everyone should see - Otpor Bosne, Cuo Se Do Neba : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1263411076701629887&q=bosnia .

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:00 AM
Are you people stupid? You are so ignorant and you are trying to make me seem like a Karadzic, Mladic, Milosevic lover. Have I mentioned this anywhere? All I am trying to prove to you is that you commited crimes just like Serbs did to you. And why do you always come back to Srebrenica? I will post something to you that will make your heart sink and a decade of BS disappear. You better read it because its comming and its straight from the official UN reports.

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:02 AM
A little case of Bosnian rapers, just one of the many. Serbs are only recognized for doing this but you don't get the recognition you deserve.

SECURITY COUNCIL
Distribution: GENERAL
A/47/813
S/24991
18 December 1992
ORIGINAL: English
Depositions of Serbian women given to the State Commission for War Crimes

Page #4 of the above document...

Extracts from the confession by [a Muslim] Alija Selimagic of the crimes committed in the villages around Bosanski Brod with a facsimile of the part containing his signature.

RAPINGS

Some three days thereafter I went with the same group of people to Sijekovac [Bosnia]. Before we set off, Enes Havic [a Muslim] and Becir Hodzic [also a Muslim] told us that we were going to abduct Serbian girls. We came to Sijekovac in a van and Havic's car. Once there, we started from the "Zidic" store and the bus station in direction of Derventa raiding houses. A number of girls, i.e. younger women, were raped in the houses in which they were found and, as far as I remember, 28 Serbian women were kidnapped and taken to Slavonski Brod [Croatia] in the van.

I was the first to break into a house with Enes Havic, Becir Hodzic and Sead Mujcin (Aga), where we found a man and a woman (both about 50 years old) and their 23-year-old daughter. First, we tied her father and mother and then began to rape their daughter. I was the first to rape her, assisted by Becir Hodzic and Enes Havic. After me, she was raped by the other three and we raped her mother too. Thereafter, I cut her mother's throat and Enes Havic did the same to her father.

We took the girl to the van. Becir Hodzic drove the girl off while we continued raiding other houses. When Hodzic came back and rejoined the group, he told us that the van was crowded and that the girls had been driven to Slavonski Brod. When the van came back again, my group abducted six or seven more girls who, too, were driven to Slavonski Brod. I do not know their names or the families they belong to. Where we found the girls' parents or relatives, we tied and left them in their homes. I do not know if and how many relatives of the abducted girls the people from other groups killed. When the action was completed, Becir Hodzic told us that the girls were taken to Slavonski Brod [Croatia] and placed in the brothels to cater for the needs of the Croatian army. I remember very well that in the end I, Hodzic, Havic and Mujcin kidnapped a girl for each of us and took them to Gornje Kolibe. We kidnapped a Serbian girl, M.M., who worked at a shop in Gornje Kolibe and three Moslem girls, Z.J., J.C. and E.C. We caught them in the street. We took them to Kolibe in the van driven by Enes Havic. I took Z.J. to my home, where I held her for three or four days. At first, she refused to have intercourse with me and I threatened to kill her, whereupon she consented. Thereafter, I let her go home at her request.

Bosnian Unit
03-13-2006, 01:02 AM
No dont give me your bullshit. I know for example just one village Vozuca where my dad grew up was forced out of their homes and had to evacuvate to the RS. The Bosnian army came in there and burned down all of the churches and all their houses and a monastary. Go there today and you will see 500 foundations of Serb homes.

Than my home city Zavidovici, it used to be 40% Bosnian and like 30% Serb and 30% Croat now its like 95% Bosnian and 2% Arab and 3% other. What have you got to say about that? And those are only cases close to me.

Than you go on to say that Alija supported a Bosnian/Serb/Croat government. Pure utter bullshit. My Dad and my Croat neighboor were forced to go away from home to dig trenches for the Bosnian army not fight for it, not that they would have fought for any side. You and you little BS.

Than the Bosnian part of Sarajevo held under siege, yes that is true but the Serbian and Croatian halfs weren't shot at by the Bosnian army? Pure bullshit. In Sarajevo the Bosnian army violated 19 cease fires, if they wanted to end it so easy and if they were the only ones being tortured so bad than why would they keep fighting?



BS, the reason we had a war is because the United States urged Bosnia to declare independence at the wrong time with the wrong man. All of Europe knew that declaring Bosnia independent at that time would not be a peaceful negotiation but America wanted to come in and screw it up for some of their interests, and I have a theory on why but I won't hurt your feelings. And declaring independence with a man that want a 100% islamic government in a country that is 2/3 serb is never a good idea.

Than again, the first blood shed in the war was Serb blood in Sarajevo. Don't give me your BS radical views. And quit playing the victim, it might the only reason why the Serbs still hate you today.

Does it look like i give a shit who hates me ?

True Bosnians did some shit too, but im talking about more then a 1.000.000 (million) none Serbs, wich mean Bosniaks and Croats mainly forced out of their own homes from teritory wich is now mainly populated by Serbs.

And im talking about more then 1.000 mosques burned in cities or villiges where Serbs where majority. And after all even today they dont want us too rebuild those mosques !! Just one example, in city of Banja Luka where Bosniaks where majority before war and now is populated 90% by Serbs !!

Here you go:

The mosque was partially demolished by explosives on May 7, 1993. and subsequently razed to the ground. The first bombing of the mosque was carried out by Serb extreme nationalists at the time believed to be supported by the authorities of Republika Srpska as part of ethnic cleansing campaign which was proven by ICTY in the Radoslav Brđanin judgement. The subsequent demolition was organized by the authorities of the Republika Srpska which included the demolition of the entire Ferhadija complex. The remains were taken to the city dump while some stone pieces and ornamental details were crushed and used as a landfill. The leveled site was later used as a parking lot. Several weeks after the destruction of Ferhadija a near-by clock tower Sahat-Kula was also destroyed. Ferhadija mosque was one of the 16 mosques destroyed in the city of Banja Luka during the Bosnian War in 1992-1995


And in 2001 we want to rebuild that, here is what happend :

A building permit was granted in 2001 to the Islamic Community of Banja Luka (Islamska Zajednica Banjaluke) to reconstruct the mosque. However, recent attempts to reconstruct the Ferhadija mosque resulted in mass riots by Serb nationalists on May 7, 2001. Some 4,000 Serb rioters stoned a group of three hundred Bosniaks, participants of the ceremony comemorating the laying of the cornerstone for the reconstruction, at least eight of whom were taken to the Banja Luka hospital for medical treatment. One of the Bosniaks died on May 26, 2001 of head injuries. The ceremony of placing the cornerstone was completed few days later in secrecy and under a heavy security. Although some of the mosques destroyed in Banja Luka in the period of the Bosnian War were reconstructed since 2001, the reconstruction process of the Ferhadija mosque is still a very contentious issue in Banja Luka due to its prominent location in the city. Its reconstruction is further delayed due to the unresolved complexities of its authentic reconstruction. Preliminary studies for its authenthic reconstruction have been prepared by the School of Architecture - Design and Research Center in Sarajevo. The reconstruction cost is estimated to be about 12 million KM (around $8 million). The site and remains of the architectural ensemble of the Ferhadija mosque is today listed as a National Monument of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferhadija

Imigies from the riots:

Young Serbs with Chetnik flag !!
http://www.ferhadija.com/0705images/2.jpg

Bosniaks cars where burned..
http://www.ferhadija.com/0705images/1.jpg

And buses,
http://www.ferhadija.com/0705images/3.jpg

And this was in 2001, just becouse we wanted to rebuild a mosque !!



Some of the camps, where thousands and thousands Bosniaks and Croats where held by Serbs during war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omarska_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manja%C4%8Da_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trnopolje_camp

Some of the mass graves in Bosnia, where Serbs killed thousands of people...This happend mostly in Eastern Bosnia around Srebrenica !!

http://www.medienkritikonline.com/srebrenica.jpg

Serb walking by killed Bosniaks/Muslims in Srebrenica !!
http://img.stern.de/_content/54/29/5...reb500_500.jpg

No comment !!
http://xs37.xs.to/pics/05281/srebrenica2.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/grap...12/wsreb12.jpg

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/200...brenica105.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/arch...ny_151963c.jpg

Just imagine...
http://www.foto-friends.com/images/f...brenica_01.jpg

So please dont talk bullshit, when we all know what happend. But just becouse you did all this and you cant denie it, now you want everyone to be the same, like everyone did the same thing.

Like i said im not saying our people didnt do anything, but not even close what Serbs did.

And still Serbs are PROUD OF SREBRENICA, AND WHAT THEY DID THERE....THIS IS WHAT THEIR FANS DO WHEN THEY PLAY FOOTBALL AGAINST OUR CLUBS, OR BOSNIAN NATIONAL TEAM.

NOZ,ZICA,SREBRENICA...wich means KNIFE,WIRE,SREBRENICA !!

http://www.vlasenica.info/Slike/Noz%20zica%20Srebrenica%20-%20Sramota.jpg



So even your peole are proud of how many Bosniaks they killed... Now what are you trying to say ?

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:20 AM
3010 Dead People Vote???????

3010 "Missing" Muslims from Srebrenica - vote!

The only place on Earth where this kind of miracle was possible was the NATO-created Bosnian Muslim state. The miracle was a direct result of Western method of "engineering democracy." Both the Western "democracies" and the Islam fundamentalists have rich tradition in lying. The end justify the means. This is how the "missing civilians" from Srebrenica were able to be both "unaccounted for" and still be able to vote in NATO-monitored Bosnian "elections" two years later!

The following is a partial list of 3010 "missing civilians" from Srebrenica who participated in the Bosnia's election and were on the OSCE voting lists.

The "paradox" was revealed to the OSCE and European Union by Dr. Dragan Kalinic, President of the Republika Srpska Parliament.
Srebrenica "dead people" who voted:

1 Abdurahmanovic Nezir Ismet
2 Ademovic Ibrahim Kadir
3 Ademovic Ismet Mevludin
4 Ademovic Seban Saban
5 Adic Camil Sadik
6 Ahmetovic Avdo Dzevad
7 Ajsic Ramo Adem
8 Akagic Alia Sabahudin
9 Alemic Alaga Mensur
10 Alic Alaga Abaz
11 Alic Nezir Ahmo
12 Alic Semso Besim
13 Alic Dzemal Dzevad
14 Alic Ferid Fehim
15 Alic Feazo Halil
16 Alic Ohran Hasib
17 Alic Alija Hebib
18 Alic Mehmed Mujo
19 Alic Ibrahim Nezir
20 Alic Haso Nijaz
21 Alic Hajrudin Reuf
22 Alic Semso Sabahudin
23 Alic Adem Samir
24 Alic Sukrija Sead
25 Alic Sukrija Seid
26 Alic Jusuf Senahid
27 Alihodzic Camil Ramadan
28 Alispahic Hamdija Enver
29 Alispahic Omer Mujo
30 Aljic Ismet Nijaz
31 Aljic Suljo Sabahudin
32 Aljic Junuz Salko
33 Aljic Suljo Seval
34 Aljic Abdulah Zijad
35 Atic Safet Ibro
36 Atic Ibro Smajo
37 Avdic Maso Alija
38 Avdic Omer Almir
39 Avdic Kadrija Bajazit
40 Avdic Mustafa Fazlija
41 Avdic Idriz Hajrudin
42 Avdic Alija Hajrudin
43 Avdic Nezir Kadir
44 Avdic Dzemail Nevzet
45 Avdic Avdo Ramiz
46 Avdic Dzemal Refik
47 Avdic Hasan Smail
48 Avdic Smajo Suljo
49 Bajramovic Suljo Azem
50 Bajramovic Ikan Nedzad
51 Bajramovic Ramo Nedzad
52 Bajramovic Alija Ohran
53 Bajramovic Ramo Semso
54 Becic Husein Hajrudin
55 Becic Ramo Ramiz
56 Becirovic Mustafa Abdulah
57 Becirovic Daut Dalija
58 Becirovic Ramo Juso
59 Becirovic Bahrija Nezir
60 Beganovic Meho Mersed
61 Begic Ibro Bego
62 Begic Ahmo Hajdin
63 Begic Salih Halid
64 Begic Saban Halid
65 Begic Alija Mehmedalija
66 Begic Salih Nezir
67 Begic Enez Nedzad
68 Begic Sacir Nusret
69 Begic Asim Zikrija
70 Begovic Ahmo Huso
71 Bektic Enes Dzelil
72 Bektic Jusuf Ejub
73 Bektic Adil Esed
74 Bektic Adem Ibrahim
75 Bektic Mustafa Jusuf
76 Bektic Sead Kiram
77 Bektic Mujo Munib
78 Bektic Salko Sakib
79 Bektic Ibrahim Sead
80 Bektic Nail Suad
81 BekticHuso Suad
82 Bektic Ahmo Sulejman
83 Bitinovic Abdulah Sabahudin
84 Bitinovic Abdulah Sevludin
85 Borogovac Nurdin Emir
86 Brdarevic Ahmo Admir
87 Brdarevic Camil Hamed
88 Brdarevic Taib Vahid
89 Budovic Huso Bajro
90 Buljubasic Ismet Bajro
91 Buljubasic Avdija Elvir
92 Buljubasic Ismet Hamdija
93 Buljubasic Avdija Hasan
94 Buljubasic Vehbija Mirsad
95 Buljubasic Avdija Senad
96 Bumbulovic Asim Adem
97 Bumbulovic Meho Fikret
98 Bumbulovic Omer Junuz
99 Bumbulovic Hasan Hasib
100 Bumbulovic Salih Husein
101 Buric Salih Rifet
102 Cakanovic Cazim Adis
103 Cakanovic Hilmo Cazim
104 Cakanovic Cazim Hazim
105 Camdzic Hasan Habib
106 Camdzic Mustafa Resid
107 Camdzic Juho Samir
108 Catic Husein Junuz
109 Catic Osman Semo
110 Civic Zuhdo Hedib
111 Cvrk Hasan Meho
112 Dautbasic Avdo Sacir
113 Dautovic Alaga Azem
114 Delic Selim Azem
115 Delic Alija Ejub
116 Delic Edhem Ekrem
117 Delic Hasan Enes
118 Delic Selim Eniz
119 Delic Hamed Hajrudin
120 Delic Hasan Ibro
121 Delic Habib Izet
122 Delic Enes Kadrija
123 Delic Meho Sead
124 Delic Ohran Zijad
125 Delic Salcin Taib
126 Dervisevic Bego Bekto
127 Dervisevic Idriz Vahdet
128 Divovic Hakija Elvedin
129 Divovic Ramo Salko
130 Dizdarevic Avdo Haso
131 Dizdarevic Hedib Huso
132 Djogaz Hasan Nusret
133 Djogaz Salcin Salko
134 Djogaz Ahmo Vahid
135 Djozic Mensur Esad
136 Djozic Senusica Fuad
137 Djozic Asim Mensur
138 Djozic Alija Sadik
139 Djozic Edhem Semir
140 Dudic Husein Ibro
141 Dudic Husein Sadik
142 Durakovic Haso Alija
143 Durakovic Miralem Musan
144 Durakovic Haso Sead
145 Dzananovic Dzemal Azem
146 Dzananovic Nezir Dzemal
147 Dzananovic Nezir Ibrahim
148 Dzananovic Hikrija Mujko
149 Dzananovic Juso Mirzet
150 Dzananovic Avdo Mustafa
151 Dzananovic Kasim Zikret
152 Dzanic Ibro Edin
153 Djogaz Mustafa Omer
154 Djogaz Salko Salcin
155 Djozic Huso Beriz
156 Efendic Husein Avdo
157 Efendic Hajrulah Bahrudin
158 Efendic Fadil Mesud
159 Efendic Husein Mevludin
160 Efendic Resid Resid
161 Ejubovic Alija Amir
162 Ejubovic Ibrahim Avdo
163 Ejubovic Muharem Behadil
164 Ejubovic Alija Ejub
165 Ejubovic Ibro Ibrahim
166 Ejubovic Mehmedalija Mehmed
167 Ejubovic Mehmedalija Mevlid
168 Feazic Fadil Mustafa
169 Feazic Nezir Nesib
170 Feazic Ibrahim Saban
171 Feazic Sakib Safet
172 Feazic Ahmet Sakib
173 Feazic Orhan Senaid
174 Gabeljic Suljo Abid
175 Gabeljic Rasid Asim
176 Gabeljic Rasid Atif
177 Gabeljic Juso Avdo
178 Gabeljic Azim Fahrudin
179 Gabeljic Hasim Hamdija
180 Gabeljic Azem Hasan
181 Gabeljic Rasim Huso
182 Gabeljic Suljo Ibro
183 Gabeljic Ibrahim Jusuf
184 Gabeljic Abdulah Meho
185 Gabeljic Atif Mustafa
186 Gabeljic Nezir Nijaz
187 Gabeljic Husein Ramiz
188 Gabeljic Hasan Sead
189 Gabeljic Rasim Zijad
190 Garaljevic Enes Enver
191 Garaljevic Mehmed Sakib
192 Gurdic Ahmet Ahmo
193 Gurdic Ahmo Mesud
194 Gurdic Bego Sadik
195 Hadzibulic Bajro Mevludin
196 Hadzibulic Teufik Bajro
197 Hafizovic Ahmet Vahid
198 Hajdarevic Alaga Kadrija
199 Haadarevic Sukrija Mehmed
200 Haadarevic Sukrija Mirzet
201 Hakic Vejsil Elvir
202 Hakic Hamdija Nurdin
203 Hakic Hajro Nurdin
204 Hakic Ramiz Senad
205 Halilovic Abid Halid
206 Halilovic Himzo Hamid
207 Halilovic Bajro Ibro
208 Halilovic Alija Mehmedalija
209 Halilovic Omer Memis
210 Halilovic Junuz Mirsad
211 Halilovic Safet Mustafa
212 Halilovic Osmo Nurdih
213 Halilovic Huso Rasid
214 Halilovic Idriz Saban
215 Halilovic Saban Sado
216 Halilovic Memis Samir
217 Halilovic Izet Seadalija
218 Halilovic Ibro Sulejman
219 Halilovic Halid Zijad
220 Halilovic Nurif Zurijet
221 Hamzic Aljo Mevlid
222 Hamzic Ahmet Mirsad
223 Hamzic Salih Salcin
224 Hanic Redzep Selim
225 Harbas Ragib Sakib
226 Hasankovic Hasan Nedzad
227 Hasanovic Amil Alaga
228 Hasanovic Huso Edhem
229 Hasanovic Zahir Esed
230 Hasanovic Juso Hajdin
231 Hasanovic Seafo Hajro
232 Hasanovic Ahmet Hamdija
233 Hasanovic Hasan Hamdija
234 Hasanovic Hasan Hazim
235 Hasanovic Salcin Jusuf
236 Hasanovic Ibrahim Mehmed
237 Hasanovic Alija Mehmedalija
238 Hasanovic Ramo Meho
239 Hasanovic Ibrahim Mevludin
240 Hasanovic Ramo Mirsad
241 Hasanovic Hamed Nermin
242 Hasanovic Selman Saban
243 Hasanovic Kadrija Semir
244 Hasanovic Hakija Senad
245 Hasanovic Husein Senahid
246 Hasanovic Alaga Suljo
247 Hasanovic Dzemal Vahdet Fahret
248 Hasic Mustafa Osman
249 Hirkic Maho Ahmo
250 Hirkic Bajro Behadil
251 Hirkic Halid Beris
252 Hirkic Suljo Halid
253 Hirkic Osman Jusuf
254 Hirkic Ahmo Maho
255 Hirkic Husein Sabahudin
256 Hodzic Husein Farid
257 Hodzic Mujo Abdulah
258 Hodzic Kadir Aziz
259 Hodzic Suljo Fikret
260 Hodzic Salko Husein
261 Hodzic Sahmo Sabit
262 Hodzic Sahim Smail
263 Hotic Sead Samir
264 Hotic Hasan Sead
265 Hozbo Muradif Sakib
266 Hrustanovic Ismet Hazim
267 Hrustanovic Ismet Rifet
268 Hrustanovic Ahmo Tahir
269 Hrustic Sahim Azem
270 Hublic Ibrahim Hazim
271 Hublic Fadil Teufik
272 Hukic Husein Ahmet
273 Hukic Gajibija Edhem
274 Hukic Redzo Esed
275 Hukic Tahir Mujo
276 Hukic Hajdin Senad
277 Huremovic Hasib Mehmed
278 Huremovic Mesan Samir
279 Huseinovic Omer Emir
280 Huseinovic Nezir Mirsad
281 Huseinovic Izet Suljo
282 Huseanagic Fehim Redzep
283 Huseanovic Atif Hajrudin
284 Huseanovic Omer Ismet
285 Huseanovic Ibro Munib
286 Huseanovic Hajrudin Nermin
287 Huseanovic Ibrahim Osman
288 Husic Mujo Bahjija
289 Husic Hasan Esad
290 Husic Mujo Himzo
291 Husic Ibrahim Mehmed
292 Husic Mehmed Mujo
293 Ibisevic Salih Bekir
294 Ibisevic Ibis Ekrem
295 Ibisevic Ahmo Samir
296 Ibisevic Salih Sead
297 Ibisevic Sevko Sefedin
298 Ibisevic Salih Seid
299 Ibrahimovic Dzemal Bego
300 Ibrahimovic Omer Dzemail
301 Ibrahimovic Omer Dzemal
302 Ibrahimovic Nefail Emir
303 Ibrahimovic Haso Enver
304 Ibrahimovic Zuhdo Hasib
305 Ibrahimovic Omer Haso
306 Ibrahimovic Ahmet Ibrahim
307 Ibrahimovic Dzemal Kemal
308 Ibrahimovic Zuhrijet Mevlid
309 Ibrahimovic Fikret Mirzet
310 Ibrahimovic Mehmed Muhamed
311 Ibrahimovic Nuria Nedzad
312 Ibrahimovic Nuria Nurdin
313 Ibrahimovic Zulfo Sabahudin
314 Ibrahimovic Ahmet Sahman
315 Ibrahimovic Smail Semso
316 Ibrahimovic Zaim Zahir
317 Idrizovic Salko Hasan
318 Imsirevic Arif Muharem
319 Jahic Ramo Hasib
320 Jahic Mehmed Saib
321 Jahic Salko Vehbija
322 Jakubovic Nezir Bego
323 Jakubovic Husein Ekrem
324 Jakubovic Esed Amir
325 Jasarevic Ismet Ahmet
326 Jukic Hadzo Irfan
327 Jukic Mehmed Mehmedalija
328 Junuzagic Zahir Mirza
329 Jusic Mustafa Mujo
330 Jusic Mujo Munir
331 Jusic Hasib Sadik
332 Jusic Juso Sulejman
333 Jusufovic Salcin Camil
334 Jusufovic Salcin Ramiz
335 Kabilovic Salko Mehmed
336 Kabilovic Bego Nesib
337 Kadric Juso Jusuf
338 Kadric Sado Kadrija
339 Kadric Kadrija Nurdin
340 Kadric Kadrija Nurija
341 Kalic Hamid Bekir
342 Kalic Idriz Muris
343 Kandzetovic Bekto Behaja
344 Kardasevic Ramo Mehan
345 Klancevic Halid Sead
346 Klempic Sevko Amir
347 Klempic Edhem Kadrija
348 Klempic Muso Zulfo
349 Krdzic Ramo Behudin
350 Krdzic Baro Izet

...



If you think that this was the only such case - think again. Murdered Muslims turned out to be alive many times in Bosnia stories. Just look at the crucial Western media anti-Serb propaganda case of Borislav Herak.

In that "atrocity" story too dead Muslims slaughtered by Mr. Herak for the benefit of the New York Times and other Western propaganda outlets appeared quit alive. In this earlier case though, the dead people were not informed that they should stay dead so they appeared in front of the media. After NATO conquered Bosnia it was so important that they instal their proxy - Islam fundamentalist Alija Izetbegovic that the minor detail about dead people voting was overlooked. The Western media treated this important information as non-existent.

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:24 AM
Here is the link if you want to see the real documents:
http://srpska-mreza.com/Bosnia/Srebrenica/UN.html

Slaughter of Serbs near Srebrenica
April 1992 to April 1993

The horror that Bosnian Serbs suffered at the hands of Muslims in the vicinity of Srebrenica is no secret. The Yugoslav State Commission for War Crimes submitted a 132 page study presenting this Serbian suffering as early as May 24, 1993 to the United Nations Security Council. Representatives of Republika Srpska (the Bosnian Serb Republic) were not allowed to submit similar documents because Republika Srpska was not recognized by the United Nations. Yugoslavia, as a UN member state (since 1945) and one of its founding nations, was allowed to submit this document.

The Security Council admitted the study as an official United Nations document. The document was given UN id numbers A/46/171 and S/25635 and dated 2 June 1993.

Many UN documents, crucial for understanding the civil wars in Bosnia in 1990's, were, on American insistence, declared classified. This is how the fact that Muslims -- and not Serbs -- were the ones who committed the infamous atrocities in Sarajevo breadline, and Markale market still officialy remains a secret.

Here presented UN document was not declared classified.. Its distribution was marked "General." Any Western journalist could have stopped by room GA57 in the basement of the U.N. Building at the corner of 46th Street and 1st Ave. in New York and gotten a copy. Or they could just called the U.N. Public Inquiry Office at (212) 963-4475 and ordered it.

Purposely no Western media EVER mentioned this document as it clearly shows that Serbian civilians were victims of the Muslim fanatics in the vicinity of Srebrenica - and not the other way around as Western media claims for more than decade now.

If the contents of this document are false, why didn't the Western media report it and refute it? Its suppression eloquently proclaims its validity and the dishonesty of the media that suppressed the very news of its existence.

We present it in its entirety. More. It is scanned in original form. You can print the PDF files and you will have a photo-copy of the original.

The UN Security Council Document:
A/46/171
S/25635
2 June 1993

Distibution: GENERAL
MEMORANDUM ON WAR CRIMES
AND CRIMES AND GENOCIDE IN EASTERN BOSNIA
(COMMUNES OF BRATUNAC, SKELANI AND SREBRENICA)
COMMITTED AGAINST THE SERBIAN POPULATION
FROM APRIL 1992 TO APRIL 1993

Introduction
Pages 1 - 21 of the document. Historical background. Serbian suffering in the region. Repeated acts of hostility toward the Serbian population in and around Srebrenica, this time in the 1990s. A list of recent Serbian victims of Muslim crime. (ORIGINAL - in PDF)

The list of Serbian victims
Pages 22 - 40 of the document. Bosnian Serbs from in and around Srebrenica murdered by Bosnian Muslims from April 20, 1992 to April 5, 1993, organized by date, victim's first name, father's name (in parenthesis), last name, year of birth, place of birth, county. (ORIGINAL - in PDF)

Massacres
Pages 41 - 51 of the document. General description of the crimes committed: Types of torture and murder, plunder of Serbian property, cleansing of the Serbian population. (ORIGINAL - in PDF)

Muslim perpetrators
Pages 52 - 80 of the document. Bosnian Muslim perpetrators. Their full names, types of crime committed. Places and dates of their crimes. (ORIGINAL - in PDF)

Victims' statements - part 1
Pages 81 - 104 of the document. Some surviving Serbian victims tell, in their own words, what they went through and how they survived. (ORIGINAL - in PDF)

Victims' statements - part 2
Pages 105 - 132 of the document. Continuation: surviving Serbian victims tell what they went through. (ORIGINAL - in PDF)

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:34 AM
Over 200,000 Serbs from Croatia, Bosnia were "ethnically cleansed" in the summer of 1995 alone in a U.S.-masterminded and aided "blitzkrieg," followed by a NATO bombing of Bosnian Serbs in September 199

http://www.truthinmedia.org/truthinmedia/images/srbexodus.jpg
http://www.truthinmedia.org/truthinmedia/images/srbexodus.jpg
Serbian Trail of Tears

Ero
03-13-2006, 01:39 AM
srpska mreza is the most BS site in the world but whatever, only extreme ultra nationalist serbs support and like what happened in srebenica and other places but I have friends who were from zenica and the whole croat population from the city and surrounding villages were expelled by who? the bosniaks not the serbs

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 01:44 AM
Which means, double latte to go please.
:star:

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:44 AM
Whats that? Death toll in Bosnia was 102,000 including all Croat, Bosnian, and Serb casualties combined, half civilian, half soldiers. I though the western media was talking 250,000 Bosnian civilians were killed. Guess not, the truth must be comming out.

There is a lot of confusion about how many people actually died in Bosnia and the media has never even attempted to address this. But here finally is an article which explains this indepth. In particular it addresses several myths:

102,000 people died, not 200,000 or 250,000 as is commonly claimed.

Roughly half were civilians and half were combat soldiers, which is contrary to popular belief that all the dead were civilians who were massacred.

Of the civilians, the three sides (Serbs, Croats, and Muslims) had roughly equal number of casualties (16,700 for Serbs and 38,000 for Muslims and Croats combined). This is contrary to the popular belief that all the dead belonged to one ethnic group (the good guys) and were killed by the other ethnic group (the bad guys).

Death toll in Bosnian war was 102,000
Norwegian News Agency ^ | 14/11/2004 | Av Kjell Arild Nilsen, NTB

Posted on 12/01/2004 7:47:33 AM PST by Decombobulator

The number of people killed in the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina was around 102,000, according to research done by the International Criminal Tribunalfor the former Yugoslavia (ICTY). This is half of earlier estimates.

The most common and most widely used number of killed persons in the Bosnia war has been around 200,000. But research shows that this number is too high. Researchers at the court estimate the correct number to be a bit over 102,000.

This number deviates somewhat from a documentation project going on in Bosnia, and project leader Mirsad Tokaca concludes that the number of killed was between 130,000 and 150,000.

For ICTY

The research project is conducted by the two population experts Ewa Tabeau and Jacub Bijak, who works for the ICTY prosecution.

The results were presented at a conference for population experts, demographists, in Norway one year ago, but they have not been publicly known.

NTB has recently gained access to the material presented at the conference, and for the first time they published scientific calculations of how many civilians were killed in the terrible war in Bosnia- Herzegovina from 1992 to1995.

Civilians and military

102,622 civilians and military personnel were killed, Tabeau and Bijak conclude. 55,261 civilians and 47,360 soldiers were killed, including Bosnian Muslims, Bosnian Serbs and Bosnian Croats.

The researchers estimate the number of killed civilian Muslims and Croats tobe around 38,000, while the number of killed civilian Serbians was about 16,700.

Among military personnel, the researchers think close to 28,000 people were killed in the government army, mostly Bosnian Muslims.

On the Serbian side, 14,000 soldiers were killed, while a bit over 6,000 Bosnian Croatian soldiers lost their lives because of actions of war.

Higher number

"The project of the Sarajevo Research and Documentation Center also has a goal to document every single person killed in the war," tells project leader Tokaca.

He is not surprised about the numbers of the Hague researchers, but he thinks his own project will conclude with higher numbers.

"In October we had over 84,000 documented names of killed persons, and by the end of the year I think we will have around 100,000," he says.

The project ends this spring, and Tokaca's rough estimate is that they willend up with a number between 130,000 and 150,000.

"I don't like to make premature estimates. But it will be over 100,000, and surely under 200,000. Our list only includes persons killed as an action of war, not those who died of indirect reasons of war," says Tokaca who cannot give enough praise to the support of the Norwegian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.

Conservative estimates

Researchers Tabeau [and] Bijak have taken a clear reservation that the number could be higher than previously concluded.

Because the researchers work for the prosecution at the ICTY, the numbers have to be so certain that they can be used as documentation in the court.

Numbers for persons dying during the war because of lack of food, low temperatures, lack of medicines and other endeavors in the war inflicted on the civilian population are not included.

The researches are also careful to note that new documentation could influence the final result.

Wrong numbers

The most commonly used number for killed persons in the war in Bosnia-Herzegovina has been 200,000, and this number has been repeated ininternational media since 1994.

The number originates from Cherif Bassouni, who was the leader of UN's expert commission investigating war crimes in the former Yugoslavia, finishing their work in 1994.

Tabeau and Bijak conclude that this number is too high, and it was not based on an examination of the cause of death in every single case, rather a summary statistics based on numbers of killed and missing received by the commission in their work and added together.The researchers also reject other numbers presented, ranging from 25,000 to 329,000.

Norway's contribution has been essential to conclude the research.

The demographic unit at the office of the prosecution was established in 1998, and the two researchers said their positions would not be possible to fund without generous contributions from Norway's government.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1291965/posts

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:46 AM
srpska mreza is the most BS site in the world but whatever, only extreme ultra nationalist serbs support and like what happened in srebenica and other places but I have friends who were from zenica and the whole croat population from the city and surrounding villages were expelled by who? the bosniaks not the serbs

Exactly, in Zavidovici, our Muslim neighboors hid the Croats and Serbs in their houses so the Bosnian army doesn't take them away.

Ero
03-13-2006, 01:46 AM
Over 200,000 Serbs from Croatia, Bosnia were "ethnically cleansed" in the summer of 1995 alone in a U.S.-masterminded and aided "blitzkrieg," followed by a NATO bombing of Bosnian Serbs in September 199


http://www.truthinmedia.org/truthinmedia/images/srbexodus.jpg
Serbian Trail of Tears

in operation storm 200 000 serbs fled because they were told to by the krajina government (Babic) and milosevic because they knew the croats would make a large offensive on the krajina so they told them to leave and to go to bosnia to populate freshly ethnically cleansed areas of bosnia

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 01:47 AM
http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a298/HeRcEgOvAc/dup.jpg
see what i mean bosniaks were bigger agressors to croats in bosnia then serbs were to us

and notice zavidovici being named FK Krivaja
Ethnic cleansed Travnik? Your map is piece of tard

Ero
03-13-2006, 01:48 AM
its all here
http://www.cascarino.homestead.com/ante.html it also proves how gotovina is innocent

Pape
03-13-2006, 01:48 AM
Does it look like i give a shit who hates me ?

True Bosnians did some shit too, but im talking about more then a 1.000.000 (million) none Serbs, wich mean Bosniaks and Croats mainly forced out of their own homes from teritory wich is now mainly populated by Serbs.

And im talking about more then 1.000 mosques burned in cities or villiges where Serbs where majority. And after all even today they dont want us too rebuild those mosques !! Just one example, in city of Banja Luka where Bosniaks where majority before war and now is populated 90% by Serbs !!

Here you go:

The mosque was partially demolished by explosives on May 7, 1993. and subsequently razed to the ground. The first bombing of the mosque was carried out by Serb extreme nationalists at the time believed to be supported by the authorities of Republika Srpska as part of ethnic cleansing campaign which was proven by ICTY in the Radoslav Brđanin judgement. The subsequent demolition was organized by the authorities of the Republika Srpska which included the demolition of the entire Ferhadija complex. The remains were taken to the city dump while some stone pieces and ornamental details were crushed and used as a landfill. The leveled site was later used as a parking lot. Several weeks after the destruction of Ferhadija a near-by clock tower Sahat-Kula was also destroyed. Ferhadija mosque was one of the 16 mosques destroyed in the city of Banja Luka during the Bosnian War in 1992-1995


And in 2001 we want to rebuild that, here is what happend :

A building permit was granted in 2001 to the Islamic Community of Banja Luka (Islamska Zajednica Banjaluke) to reconstruct the mosque. However, recent attempts to reconstruct the Ferhadija mosque resulted in mass riots by Serb nationalists on May 7, 2001. Some 4,000 Serb rioters stoned a group of three hundred Bosniaks, participants of the ceremony comemorating the laying of the cornerstone for the reconstruction, at least eight of whom were taken to the Banja Luka hospital for medical treatment. One of the Bosniaks died on May 26, 2001 of head injuries. The ceremony of placing the cornerstone was completed few days later in secrecy and under a heavy security. Although some of the mosques destroyed in Banja Luka in the period of the Bosnian War were reconstructed since 2001, the reconstruction process of the Ferhadija mosque is still a very contentious issue in Banja Luka due to its prominent location in the city. Its reconstruction is further delayed due to the unresolved complexities of its authentic reconstruction. Preliminary studies for its authenthic reconstruction have been prepared by the School of Architecture - Design and Research Center in Sarajevo. The reconstruction cost is estimated to be about 12 million KM (around $8 million). The site and remains of the architectural ensemble of the Ferhadija mosque is today listed as a National Monument of Bosnia and Herzegovina.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ferhadija

Imigies from the riots:

Young Serbs with Chetnik flag !!
http://www.ferhadija.com/0705images/2.jpg

Bosniaks cars where burned..
http://www.ferhadija.com/0705images/1.jpg

And buses,
http://www.ferhadija.com/0705images/3.jpg

And this was in 2001, just becouse we wanted to rebuild a mosque !!



Some of the camps, where thousands and thousands Bosniaks and Croats where held by Serbs during war:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omarska_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manja%C4%8Da_camp

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trnopolje_camp

Some of the mass graves in Bosnia, where Serbs killed thousands of people...This happend mostly in Eastern Bosnia around Srebrenica !!

http://www.medienkritikonline.com/srebrenica.jpg

Serb walking by killed Bosniaks/Muslims in Srebrenica !!
http://img.stern.de/_content/54/29/5...reb500_500.jpg

No comment !!
http://xs37.xs.to/pics/05281/srebrenica2.jpg

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/grap...12/wsreb12.jpg

http://www.sfgate.com/c/pictures/200...brenica105.jpg

http://pub.tv2.no/multimedia/na/arch...ny_151963c.jpg

Just imagine...
http://www.foto-friends.com/images/f...brenica_01.jpg

So please dont talk bullshit, when we all know what happend. But just becouse you did all this and you cant denie it, now you want everyone to be the same, like everyone did the same thing.

Like i said im not saying our people didnt do anything, but not even close what Serbs did.

And still Serbs are PROUD OF SREBRENICA, AND WHAT THEY DID THERE....THIS IS WHAT THEIR FANS DO WHEN THEY PLAY FOOTBALL AGAINST OUR CLUBS, OR BOSNIAN NATIONAL TEAM.

NOZ,ZICA,SREBRENICA...wich means KNIFE,WIRE,SREBRENICA !!

http://www.vlasenica.info/Slike/Noz%20zica%20Srebrenica%20-%20Sramota.jpg



So even your peole are proud of how many Bosniaks they killed... Now what are you trying to say ?

Your president Alija took part in planning for Srebrenica because he cares about you so much. And maybe if you didn't try to sue Serbia for what you planned and if you did not take advantage of the western lies they wouldnt be so mean to you.

Ohh and whosever article you copied is outdated since most of those links don't work anymore.

Ero
03-13-2006, 01:52 AM
Ethnic cleansed Travnik? Your map is piece of tard

yeah look at this map
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/bosnia/bosnia_sfor_97.jpg travnik is in the ethnically muslim part

now look at this map
http://www.rastko.org.yu/istorija/srbi-balkan/img/bosnia-karta2b.jpg travnik is in purple (mixed) and its surrounded by croat majorities
same goes for tuzla and other places

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 02:03 AM
Jebem ti mater balija!:evil:


ZIVELA SRBIJA , ZIVELA REPUBLIKA SRPSKA !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:boo: :red-card: I didn't expect anything else from chetnik, i wish you the best in your chetnik life now you can genocide montenegro (next on the list)
Ps. Milosevic thread should be In scg forum
serbs don't care about (never elcted president) tyrant Milosevic only blood thrsity chetniks do
PS: Montenegro will soon gain its independance and Djindjic(whom chetniks killed) is real serb (RIP) and most serbs are remembering him and I'm glad chetniks lost their chetnik fuhrer

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 02:22 AM
yeah look at this map
http://www.lib.utexas.edu/maps/bosnia/bosnia_sfor_97.jpg travnik is in the ethnically muslim part

this map was taken in after the war where most of bosnians have been ethnically cleansed from everywhere. I was in Travnik 94-99 and croats were not ethnically cleansed
PS:look up definition of ethnically cleansed (and you will see bosnian muslims face there)
now look at this map
http://www.rastko.org.yu/istorija/srbi-balkan/img/bosnia-karta2b.jpg travnik is in purple (mixed) and its surrounded by croat majorities
same goes for tuzla and other places[/quote]
These maps are come from your counterparts (in ethnic cleansing and crimes against bosnian people) chetniks with whom you had written agreement how to split bosnia. If you have any idea about bosnia (no matter what you are serb, croat, bosnian, french, russian and e.t.c.) you would know that city of tuzla had always bosnian muslim majority.
PS:Ah those Old Tudjman's dreams

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 02:26 AM
its all here
http://www.cascarino.homestead.com/ante.html it also proves how gotovina is innocent
and that coming from who?:lol: USTASA who?:lol: USTASA who? :yuck: USTASA
PS: Its definetly not all there all of the serbian and bosnian people massacred by him and his followers are not there

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 02:36 AM
bosniaks were the worst in the bosnian war imo, i mean they brought in terrorists from iran and afghanistan and other arab countries to kill serbs and Croats. Central Bosnia was almost completely cleansed of croats by the bosnians but Croats are the ones that are getting blamed for killing muslims in central bosnia. The croat and bosniak union decision to join sides was a horrible thing and i hate it because now cities at one time 100% croat and catholic are filled with mosques and bosniaks throughout herceg bosna because we are apparently "friends" now.

I think its impossible that 25-500 year old mosques suddnelly apear in so called 100% croat and catholic cities

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 03:06 AM
I love croats but i don't like and am not in favor of ustase that massacred bosnians and serbs

Ero
03-13-2006, 03:09 AM
ustase were allied with muslims in ww2 and the HOS had a lot of muslims in it

Ero
03-13-2006, 03:11 AM
20 000 muslims joined the ustase known as the handzar division

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 03:16 AM
most of them didn't have choice it was that or death

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 03:17 AM
we are going off topic im pretty sure milosevic scored a hat trick I mean heart attack

Ero
03-13-2006, 03:19 AM
most of them didn't have choice it was that or death

no they joined the ustase because the cetniks were killing them same goes for the muslims who joined the HOS

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 03:23 AM
yes because the cetniks were killing them and ustase and nazies would have kill them if they didn't join

Ero
03-13-2006, 03:31 AM
no muslims were considered islamic croats and therefore considered aryan like croats were to hitler so they joined up

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 03:52 AM
"considered" islamic croats by whom 'hitlers nazies and ustase'. Who ever considered them something was wrong because like I and you know they are not islamic croats
PS: Islamic croats are in zagreb, split etc ... Bosnians are in bosnia and are considered bosnians (who lived loved and will live and love islam)
Again you are off topic, create a topic in Ustasa forum and argue your Ustasa agenda

Ero
03-13-2006, 04:02 AM
all bosniaks are croats or serbs who converted they were considered croats or serbs until tito changed that and they became a nationality

Centarfor9
03-13-2006, 04:13 AM
all bosniaks are croats or serbs who converted they were considered croats or serbs until tito changed that and they became a nationality
once again "considered" by who ustase, nazies, communist or someone third. Bosnians before tito didn't say anything or they were to be slain most of them were forced to declare themself serb or croats
PS: who ever is telling you this and feeding you this ideology is wrong and you should open your mind and think before you speak and write down something
Think about who roamed the FRJ area before slavs came in

Saraj Fanático
03-13-2006, 04:22 AM
Your president Alija took part in planning for Srebrenica because he cares about you so much. And maybe if you didn't try to sue Serbia for what you planned and if you did not take advantage of the western lies they wouldnt be so mean to you.

Ohh and whosever article you copied is outdated since most of those links don't work anymore.



HAHAHAHAHAH! LOL! I am speechless! :lol: :lol: :lol: I won't bother reponding to such a post, it's all a joke, right!?

We are sueing Serbia for the 200,000 lives those criminal Cetnik's took. Go ahead and sue us if you like but trust me it won't work. Why? Well, because the Mujahideen are gone home. And they were not a Government army. Case closed. But on the Serb side. Ohhhhh boy! Do we have some trouble or what!?

Saraj Fanático
03-13-2006, 04:26 AM
all bosniaks are croats or serbs who converted they were considered croats or serbs until tito changed that and they became a nationality


Really! :lol:

You don't know our history. How can we be Serb when we existed before as Bogomil's? Bogomil's followed a different kind of race. They denied the birth of Jesus Christ and did not accpet the Catholic Church. They belived in mostly tradition's. When the Ottoman Empire arived to the balkan's then they accpeted the great religion of Islam.


Back on topic please.

Pape
03-13-2006, 04:34 AM
HAHAHAHAHAH! LOL! I am speechless! :lol: :lol: :lol: I won't bother reponding to such a post, it's all a joke, right!?

We are sueing Serbia for the 200,000 lives those criminal Cetnik's took. Go ahead and sue us if you like but trust me it won't work. Why? Well, because the Mujahideen are gone home. And they were not a Government army. Case closed. But on the Serb side. Ohhhhh boy! Do we have some trouble or what!?

Are you stupid or did you read my previous post? 102,000 total lives were lost and that number includes Croat, Bosnian, and Serbian civilians and soldiers. The breakdown is 50% soldiers and 50% civilians.

Saraj Fanático
03-13-2006, 04:46 AM
A little case of Bosnian rapers, just one of the many. Serbs are only recognized for doing this but you don't get the recognition you deserve.



HAHAHAH! And are those "Rapist's" in a Bosnian Army? Did they do that while on patrol!? Nice try.



Here is some Serb MILITARY rapes in bosnia.
http://www.haverford.edu/relg/sells/rape2.html
Funny how Karadzic denies the rape in this article yet he had once said to take the muslim people to the "Highway to hell" LOL! What a bad liar.

http://www.peacewomen.org/news/BosniaHerzegovina/newsarchive/massrape.html
http://www.newint.org/issue244/rape.htm


Here is a source clearly stating that the UN had found evidance of rape in Bosnia.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9F0CEEDF123BF930A15753C1A965958260
It's a NYTIMES.

Offcourse there are Muslim men who are so ***king crazy to rape a wwoman. But they are called Criminal's or Thug's. Every nation has them.

Saraj Fanático
03-13-2006, 04:48 AM
Are you stupid or did you read my previous post? 102,000 total lives were lost and that number includes Croat, Bosnian, and Serbian civilians and soldiers. The breakdown is 50% soldiers and 50% civilians.

Majority of civilian death's is Bosniak's, 30%. Those people (200,000) died in our land in a war waged by Serbian Cetnik's.

Pape
03-13-2006, 04:53 AM
Majority of civilian death's is Bosniak's, 30%. Those people (200,000) died in our land in a war waged by Serbian Cetnik's.

I said 102,000 not 200,000

Ero
03-13-2006, 05:41 AM
bosnians like to raise the # of killed ppl like the serbs like to raise the # of ppl killed by ustase in ww2

Bosnian Unit
03-13-2006, 04:55 PM
Ok people Milosevic is dead, now we all know we can argue about this forever and we will always think the way we do. Thats just nature !!

Now we dont need some none Bosnian,Croat or Serb comming here and make as sign Soccer Fans Forum Peace Agreement, like they did in 1995 Dayton Agreement becouse we didnt wonna stop fighting :lol: !!

So lets be civilized and stop this bullshit, becouse like i said we can go forever with this and still we would not agree with most of the things.

BTW FK Krivaja you are cool guy but i dont agree about that list and dead people who vote or whatever.

As we all know Bosnia & Herzegovina is sueing Serbia & Montenegro for agression, and thats happening right now in Haggue. They both have all facts possible, and we will see whats gonna happend.


And i wouldent belive much in that sprskamreza website, becouse they even denied Srebrenica. But how we are having those mass graves in and around Srebrenica then i wonder !? Come on there was even Holland generals who were in controle of Srebrenica as a ''safe zone'' in Haggue they admit what happend in Srebrenica. Serbs seperate females and males, and then they killed 8.000+ males from 15 years and on !!

Even Biljana Plavsic admit that and she was one of the closest person to Karadzic, even president or RS. Also as i posted here what Karadzic said before war, you think he didnt follow his idea by taking Bosnia to hell and Muslims in extinction... Ofcourse he did, and i have video where he is on some mountain in Sarajevo saying to Serb soldiers shoot everything that moves..They did shoot everything they could, they eve destory everything they could.

c3nar1us
03-13-2006, 05:06 PM
THREAD CLOSED!!!
You can continue discussion here (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=40954) or here (http://forums.soccerfansnetwork.com/showthread.php?t=32236)

btw.
Bosnian unit you are genius;)