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lubez
01-23-2006, 11:41 AM
Looks like skinheads from croatia, italy, czech and serbia are going to germany to cause some shit. The croatians and serbs are putting aside their differences for this one time just to cause some trouble. Especially to the black players from England. Hope nothing comes from it... it could be just bullshit though, the british press does spin alot of shit!!:D

Click Here to Read More (http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-2004089,00.html)

ulster21
01-23-2006, 01:32 PM
I would not trust anything the times says :sad:

CroatD
01-23-2006, 10:46 PM
I think its all BS

alchemist
01-24-2006, 05:33 AM
Serb and Croat skinheads putting aside their differences in order to collaborate and cause trouble... seems very unlikely

lubez
01-24-2006, 06:18 AM
Exactly what i thought just wanted to see what ppl thought... also i'm pretty sure that the delije dont support the national team.. Another thing is why would they give a shit about black players taking over white players spots in the ENGLISH team?? Seems like a whole lot of bullshit

alchemist
01-24-2006, 07:14 AM
fans of the Serb clubs (Red Star & Partizan) do support the national team but not to the level of their respective clubs and a number of people (including ex-players) have said that it has a lot to do with the fans sense of national identity, or better put, lack of...

my point is that the fans were first told that they were all one, they were all Yugoslav... but ethnic rivalries die-hard in the Balkans and support for the national team seemed a bit half-hearted... for example, just before the '90 World Cup Yugoslavia hosted Holland in a friendly game in Zagreb... when the anthem was played, the fans booed, jeered etc. to the point that one of the Yugoslav players told the rest of the team that it was them 11 against 20,000... the Dutch players were stunned by the reception the "local" team received

then the war happened and several years later players who once represented the same country now opposed each other... some even found it funny playing in Belgrade or Zagreb against the home team... so the national teams became vehicles to express nationalistic feelings, views etc... identifying not with who you are and where your from, but more with who you hate...

and when such feelings deflate, the fans find themselves singing to an anthem of a country that doesn't exist anymore, saluting a flag that does not represent them...

valdanito_10
01-26-2006, 07:09 AM
these kind of threads dont belong here.

lubez
01-26-2006, 10:10 PM
Sorry mate.. just thought i'd post it, let people know... wasn't trying to provoke anyone if that's what u thought.

David Ultra Boy
01-27-2006, 01:18 PM
I'm sorry, I want just to clear things out. Delije don't support national team, because national team of S&M has the hymn of Yugoslavia, and the flag of Yugoslavia. And Delije hate everything what is Yugoslavian. Delije aren't nazis, and they said it so many times. Recently Delije wrote an answer for this article.

"Као такви, расизам никада нисмо подржавали као своју идеологију.
О неонацизму да и не говоримо...
За енглески дневник изјаву је дао извесни Драган Бановић за кога никада нисмо ни чули, а ако се узме у обзир оно што је написано, не остаје нам ништа друго него да претпоставимо да је њихов саговорник измишљена личност. Наша група сматра хрватске навијаче непријатељима, како на навијачкој тако и на националној основи."

In basic they say: We don't support rascism, an we never thought about rascism as our ideology. And about neonascism we don't even want to talk.
For this article statement was given by unknown Dragan Banovic, we never heard of him, and if we read the whole text we assume that their coworker is made up person. Our group considers croatian supporters as enemies, in supporters way, and in national way.

Sorry, just to clear out things little bit.

Aryan
01-27-2006, 01:25 PM
Serb and Croat skinheads putting aside their differences in order to collaborate and cause trouble... seems very unlikely
Serbian and Croatian Blood and Honour/Combat 18/Skinhead units have very, very good relationship, no matter what you might think.

Aryan
01-27-2006, 01:27 PM
Red Star Belgrade supporters DO NOT FOLLOW Serbian National team organisely, how many times I have to repeat.

alchemist
01-28-2006, 04:35 AM
Serbian and Croatian Blood and Honour/Combat 18/Skinhead units have very, very good relationship, no matter what you might think.

fair enough... so you see such reports about a collaboration between these groups when it comes to supporting their teams in Germany as possible/probable?